New T-Mobile Un-carrier 1.0 includes free service for first responders, $15 rate plan

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The New T-Mobile’s Un-carrier 1.0 move isn’t just one move, but actually three different moves.

The Connecting Heroes Intiative is meant to give free service to first responders. With this effort, T-Mobile says that it will give free unlimited talk, text, and smartphone data to every first responder at every public and non-profit state and local police, fire, and EMS first responder agency.

First responders participating in the Connecting Heroes Initiative will have the highest priority of any plan on T-Mobile’s network regardless of how much data they use. They’ll also have 5G access if that network is available where they are.

T-Mobile claims that its Connecting Heroes Intiative can save an estimated $7.7 billion in the budgets of first responder agencies over 10 years. Any agencies interested in taking part in the Connecting Heroes Initiative can join the waitlist here.

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The second part of New T-Mobile’s Un-carrier 1.0 announcement is Project 10 Million. The goal of this effort is to close the “Homework Gap” and give internet access to kids who don’t have it so that they can complete their school assignments. T-Mobile plans to connect 10 million households over five years in the U.S. and Puerto Rico.

With Project 10 Million, participating households with children will get up to 100GB of free internet access per year and a free mobile Wi-Fi hotspot. They’ll also have the option to buy select Wi-Fi-capable devices at T-Mobile’s cost.

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The third and final part of today’s announcements is T-Mobile Connect. With it, T-Mobile says it’ll offer a $15 plan with unlimited talk and text plus 2GB of high-speed smartphone data. And with the Annual Data Upgrade included with this plan, T-Mo will give customers 500MB of additional data per month for the next five years, meaning subscribers will get 2.5GB of data in year two, 3GB in year three, and so on.

T-Mobile also plans to offer a $25 plan that’ll include 5GB of high-speed data.

The T-Mobile Connect plan will be available for everyone and will work with 5G.

It’s worth mentioning that all three of these moves are dependent on T-Mobile and Sprint completing their merger. The deal does go through, T-Mo plans to integrate Sprint’s 2.5GHz spectrum into its network to use high-band (mmWave), mid-band (2.5GHz), and low-band (600MHz) airwaves for its 5G network. T-Mobile also claims that its combined 5G network will offer 14 times the capacity than T-Mo’s standalone network does today. With these New T-Mobile Un-carrier 1.0 moves, T-Mo shows how it plans to utilize that added capacity.

The T-Mobile-Sprint merger has gotten official approval from both the Justice Department and FCC, but it’s still facing a lawsuit from 15 state attorneys general who want to block the merger. T-Mobile CEO John Legere said today that there are conversations happening between T-Mobile and those state AGs. For now, though, that trial is set to begin on December 9th.

Source: T-Mobile

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  • npaladin2000

    That $15 thing strikes me as “too good to be true.” I wonder what the catch is.

    • Steve

      Right now I have 2 plans on RedPocket for $15/mth with 1 GB per data and unlimited talk and text. They are for my kids. If it’s done right this can be a great thing, especially if the coverage is right. If it comes with Tmo-Tuesdays there is a whole ‘nother set of goodies.

      • Iphart

        T-Mobile Tuesdays? Lol.
        With the exception of when they offered Pandora free for one year I have never ever use T-Mobile Tuesdays.

        • Acdc1a

          Speak for yourself. I use my Shell discount every week.

        • Pak T

          I miss the $2 credit for Dunkin Donuts. That was real free money in that you didn’t have to spend $10 to get $2 or something like that. You could buy something for $2 with your $2 credit.

        • dcmanryan

          I’ve still got $40 on a virtual DD card. I miss the old days with Baskin Robbins too as they would also stack instead of a stupid QR code.

        • RealLifeJasonBourne

          Sucks to be you?

    • Preorder of Things

      Well, I imagine it does not include taxes.

      • Francisco Peña

        no netflix

      • Pak T

        It is a prepaid plan and to the best of my knowledge all prepaid plans are “Plus taxes & fees.”

        (not sure why someone down voted you for making a statement that is probably correct, so I will add one up vote. Same for the Netflix comment below; upvoted.)

    • Acdc1a

      Comes with nothing but the service plan. MVNO’s already beat this plan. Not exciting at all.

      • Kent108

        MVNO service is always inferior by definition. If you’re in an area with high usage, the MVNO subscriber gets throttled until the prime-carrier subscribers’ high-speed data usage is fulfilled.

        To use a car analogy, that’s like saying your cheaper Ferrari is as good as my more expensive Ferrari, except that your Ferrari is only allowed to use the slowest right lane during rush hour. Clearly that’s a disadvantage for you.

  • mikeZo6

    Nothing for Long Time Customers Again

    • Pak T

      What do you mean? Looks like the announced plans are open to anybody, so feel free to jump on one if it offers a better deal than what you currently have.

    • RealLifeJasonBourne

      Ah yes….another promotion, another:

      I want T-mobile to treat me like a new customer. Again. Because there are new customers. And they are getting deals. Like the deal that I got when I was a new customer. But I’m not now. But it shouldn’t matter. Because I want more stuff!!

      I’ll never understand the “logic” of the entitled…

      • mikeZo6

        Didn’t have promotions 18yrs ago when Long Time customers Joined

        • Nikitao1

          So getting your phone for 1¢ -99¢ back in the day wasn’t a deal?

        • RealLifeJasonBourne

          lmao…Whoops! My bad.

          Ah yes…another promotion, another:

          I’ve been with the service for 18 years and didn’t get ANYTHING! Not a thing. Not even service! We had to walk to the cans-connected-by-string, uphill both ways!

          Someone call the wahmbulance for this guy, he’s gonna code!

          Gee, we’re so sorry you’ve had service you’ve felt was sufficient for what you were paying for the last 18 years. What a darned shame. You poor thing, you. /s

        • mikeZo6

          Kids lol Guess ur one of those people who liked free tacos

        • RealLifeJasonBourne

          Well, I mean, duh. Who doesn’t like free tacos?

    • Rosario

      These plans seem to be for everyone, but long time customers need to realize that these promos are designed to bring in new customers. Every carrier does this. You can always switch and carrier hop every two years. Because you will run into the same issue at the next carrier after two years (free/discounted phones, promos that only last for 2yrs etc.)

    • Kent108

      Long-time customers will automatically get 5G data at no additional cost (assuming availability where you are, of course.)

      That’s not nothing. You’re paying the same amount, and getting something better.

  • Preorder of Things

    For What its Worth, in regards to the annouced $15 plan. This is what T-Mobile agreed to with the State of Colorado.

    For at least five years following the closing date, New T-Mobile will offer new low-priced plans in the state that are available to all customers and provides:
    Unlimited talk, text, and 2GB of data for $15 or less per month; and
    Unlimited talk, text, and 5GB of data for $25 or less per month.

    • RealLifeJasonBourne

      Something to have handy, I suppose when people whine about the number of “confusing” plans…

    • Tmoblows

      you mean the state where tmobile has spotty issues even 15 minutes from the airport….

  • Zo

    test

    • Pak T

      PASS

  • JG

    And with this plan, T-Mo says it’ll give customers 500MB of additional data every month for the next five years, meaning subscribers will get 2.5GB of data in year two, 3GB in year three, and so on.

    Maybe I’m just being daft …. But how exactly is this gaining an extra 500mb every month?

    I’d start in January with 2GB. Add half a gig (500MB/month) in February to 2.5GB, then March I’d be 3GBs, APril 3.5…

    I’d be ready to start year 2 at 7GBs of data. But according to the article, year 2 has 2.5GB and I don’t hit 3 until year 3…

    • Pak T

      If you look at the announcement on T-Mos site, it states it as a “Annual Data Upgrade” where each year you get an 500MB per month bump on your data for that year. Seems pretty clear.

      I believe this particular plan is a PRE-paid plan rather than a post paid plan, btw, in case that is important to anyone.

      • JG

        Annual data upgrade is clear, sure… But if you check the article, as I quoted it, it says T-Mo will give customers 500MB of additional data EVERY MONTH… During the announcement he also specifically said it would be per month as well…

        The article needs updated to reflect the fact that data is given every YEAR not every MONTH…

        • Pak T

          I think you are nitpicking since they did make it clear it is an annual upgrade and with that annual update you will get an additional 500MB every month. So January your 2GB is bumped to 2.5 and then the next month again your 2GB is bumped 500MB to 2.5GB and so on, so you are getting a 500MB bump EVERY MONTH, just like they stated.

          And the article above did make it clear already by explicitly stating “meaning subscribers will get 2.5GB of data in year two, 3GB in year three, and so on.” so what is to update?

        • JG

          Yes, I suppose I am nitpicking by pointing out obvious typos in the article.

          They contradict themselves in that sentence. If T-Mobile is giving an additional 500MB of data every month it should rise monthly. But then they illustrate it by having it rise yearly…

          The article needs corrected to reflect the data increase is done yearly, not monthly. If I sign up in January 2020, I don’t see a bump in my data until January 2021 when my account is given 500MB, raising it to 2.5GB/month. Then I don’t see another bump until January 2022 when I am given another 500MB to raise me to 3GB of data per month…

          If 500MB of data was being added to the account every month as the sentence starts, I would end the 5 year plan with 32GBs of data (2GB base + (12 months * 5 years * 0.5GB)). But in reality, I’ll only end with 4.5GBs (2GB base + (5 years * 0.5GB))… That is a pretty big difference.

  • Nikitao1

    Plan: only $15/month
    Phone that supports plan: $1300

    • Kent108

      That’s not T-mobile’s fault, though.

    • Nikitao1

      Wether or not the 5g phone is required 2gb is abysmal in today’s day. Sure in price relativity $15 isn’t bad, but carriers should stop treating data like a finite thing. Even if any phone works on this plan any person on it will likely use that up in a second, further made worse by the fact that they claim 5g as a feature of it. A 5G phone would use that 2gb in 30 seconds. This plan is laughable at best.

  • Danno

    To the 15 AG’s still holding out on the lawsuit to stop the merger of T-Mobile and Sprint…WTF is wrong with you?!? The first responder plan along should be enough to show the spirit behind this merger. T-Mobile is giving the first responders their service FOR FREE, and they are the highest prioritized customers on the network. Unlike Verizon that cut the service off for first responders and told them they used too much data, so they needed to buy a larger plan to get their service turned back on. The same Verizon that took away unlimited plans because people don’t need unlimited data, only to bring it back at a higher price after T-Mobile shamed them into it by offering unlimited plans at reasonable prices to it’s customers. T-Mobile has been pushing the envelop in wireless and forcing change for the good of the customer in the wireless industry by pressuring the other carriers to follow suit and do something right for the customer. Wake up AG’s! Look at what T-Mobile has already done, and is going to do going forward, and DROP THE DAMN LAWSUIT AND LET T-MOBILE COMPETE! I really want to see if Verizon come up with some plan for first responders (other than pay us more for more data usage) now that T-Mobile has shown support for some of the most dedicated people in the country.

    To all the first responders, THANK YOU for running into harms way when the rest of us are running away from harm. Your sacrifices are deeply appreciated by this U.S. Citizen.

    • John Doe

      I think now they should actually continue with the lawsuit more than ever and I support the merger but if this is how T-Mobile is going to treat its customers to throw them a bone whenever they feel like it because there is no competition to them at their price point then no thanks, I hate to see what will happen 5 or 10 years from now.

      The first responders already have plans they don’t need this I am already paying for it from my taxes and trust me my taxes will not go down now that they can get “free 1 GB of service”. And this plan actually has “pay us more for more data”…read the fine print and don’t be fooled by this charade.

  • Vlad Shanhin

    Where is TMobile home internet all over USA? I finally want to kiss Comcast good bye!

    • marque2

      You can sign up to be put on a wait list. It is only available officially in a few spots. Unofficially you can put a VPN on your phone and connect it to your WiFi router with USB and use the phone to supply data to the wifi.(Asus routers do this natively others require a mod).

  • Acdc1a

    This was nothing but a plea to be allowed to merge. Has anyone noticed the 4 for 160 plan at AT&T trumps the T-Mobile plan in every way except taxes and fees being included? I’d love to do the $15 plan but we know this comes with no added benefits whatsoever. Very disappointed!

    • Kent108

      In what way does AT&T’s plan “trump” T-mobile? I’ve been paying $180 for six lines of unlimited call/text/data for years, AND I’ve been getting free text and data when traveling in Europe and Asia (slow data speeds, but still: free).

      As far as I can tell, AT&T has always been the worst out of the four major carriers. Verizon’s network is arguably the costliest, but at least it’s also arguably the best. T-mobile’s network hasn’t been #1, but it’s been the cheapest. Sprint has always sucked, but at least it’s still pretty cheap. AT&T has always been expensive AND shitty. And it looks like it’ll stay that way.

      • Acdc1a

        I love getting down voted for telling the truth. AT&T’s mid tier plan gives you 15GB of tethering and costs the same as Magenta that gives you 3. You could of course buy an extra 10GB for an extra $10 per month at T-Mobile but for 4 lines you’d be at $200 vs. $160 and still be shorted 2 GB of tethering data per line.

        • Kent108

          It would suck if you’d been downvoted for telling the truth. But you’re not.

          The ONLY benefit you’ve noted is the tethering. But: AT&T is MORE expensive (even BEFORE fees and taxes are considered): $160 vs. $140 (not $160) for T-mobile for four lines. (Fees and taxes aren’t a trivial matter, btw. By the time you add that in, AT&T becomes 20 to 25 percent more expensive.) Also, AT&T doesn’t include international data/text roaming. And once again: its network sucks.

        • Acdc1a

          You probably want to go check that again. T-Mobile Magenta is $40 per line based on 4 lines. AT&T allows for texting abroad on even their $35 plan…

  • Fan_Atl77

    Great and well-deserved, for the First time responders, EMS, and All heroes. I hope the T-Mobile and Sprint merger is finalized and/or completed soon.

    • dcmanryan

      Many professions could also qualify and many are as deserving or more deserving. Nothing more than a PR stunt IMO and nothing is free so the rest us will pay for it somewhere. No hate or jealousy, it’s their company and they can do what they want and so can I with my wallet if it ends on my bill.

      • NardVa

        A certain group of people getting heavily discounted service means the rest of us have to pay higher prices to make up the lost revenue. Why should a police officer or any first responder who is off duty be able to abuse the network with Netflix, YouTube, streaming, etc with no limitations and first priority. These departments should only get priority when dealing with emergencies.

        • Andrew

          Since there’s no way for tmobile to know when they are on or off duty, how do you think they should handle this?

        • NardVa

          That’s the thing you can’t. Best solution is don’t offer it. Don’t be surprised if T-Mobile opens these special plans up to family plans. You’re going to have first responders with 10 lines letting all their friends and family abuse the network with no limitations.

        • Lokofly

          So, according to your logic, military members and veterans should not be entitled to the benefits and special programs they receive?…

        • NardVa

          Not when it’s detrimental to everybody else that is regular. For example, on Veterans Day most restaurants let military and their family eat free (in Virginia). If you’re a regular paying customer trying to dine out, you’re screwed because you spend hours waiting to get seated anywhere. Imagine if the Veterans day treatment was everyday. Regular paying customers get screwed.

  • JG

    I think they mentioned this during the Q&A portion at the end… I just want to make sure someone else heard it and understood it to mean what I’m thinking/hoping/understanding it to mean…

    During one of the questions about the new $15/month plan…. Did Sievert say all existing T-Mobile subscribers would get 5G added to our plans at no additional cost?

    I just wanted to confirm that all we’ll need i a T-Mobile 5G capable phone and we’ll be able to take advantage of the 5G network as soon as they turn it on… Without having to upgrade to a new plan, pay more, etc…

    I’m also wondering… Will that be dependent upon the merger going through (as the other announcements today are)? Or is this good regardless…

    • Robert Roll

      i thought i herd it mentioned even before this that they will not charge extra for 5G access and existing plans will have access to it if its available in your area and you have a device that can use it

      • Pak T

        Which would go along with their promise that after the merger plans would either go down in price or stay the same with better service and/or features, so adding 5G at no extra cost seems to fit in with getting more for the same price.

  • Ver

    If you got the $15 plan with 5g, wouldn’t you be able to gobble up 2 gig in about 1 minute? They are banking on you wanting unlimited.

    • Pak T

      You will only gobble up as much data as you use. 5G is faster data, not more data. If you use more data then that is on you, not the band on which it was downloaded.

      • John Doe

        You will use more data if your internet is faster. Companies use 100s of different compression techniques that are all based on your internet speed. They are dynamic they are adjusted based on the device you use, your internet speed, your latency, etc. Also not to mention all the new apps and tools that will be used for 5G like game streaming. Imagine if someone told you that you will use the same amount of data when 4G comes along before Netflix.

        Yes the amount of data does not change based on your speed but that is assuming you are using data that it itself does not change based on speed.

        • Mike Smith

          You’re also assuming that the users usage is streaming video. For most common uses like web surfing, email, messaging, etc. this is a non issue.

        • John Doe

          That same thing. Everything changes and evolved even the emojies you are using, the graphics in your email and your webpages. All of that is based on an evolving and changing coding. For example in areas with slow speeds like in india there are special versions of apps and websites to use less data to load up content.

        • Mike Smith

          Yes there are new and improved codecs. Yes faster data rates default to different resolutions and compression algorithms. But you’re comparing ten years ago to today, which isn’t relevant in the 4G vs. 5G discussion. In this context, the speed difference between today’s 4G and today’s 5G, accessing the same content, will not cause a material difference in the amount of data consumed.

        • John Doe

          We are talking about the future here not today. It will take several years for 5G to roll out. Even these plans are not available until the merger goes through and God knows when the lawsuit will be over they can go through appeals and what not.

          Again, this seems hard for you to understand but TODAY you can consume different amounts of data based on your internet speed. TODAY. If I am consuming the same content on my phone on T-Mobile right now vs on my WiFi with Verizon FiOS, FiOS will use a lot more data because YouTube and Netflix will start using a hight bitrate, higher framerate, webpages will start loading up all their graphics much faster, apps that consume less data based on your speed will use more data if you have a faster connection unless they give the option to turn it off.

          Data consumption is not black and white. There is a lot of gray with many layers including TMobile. For example TMobile now compresses videos to 420P when they roll out 5G they will probably increase that to 720P because they will have a higher network capacity with 5G. Also 5G is not just about speed it is also about latency which will allow services like FaceTime to use more data

    • Mike Smith

      No? 5G doesn’t use MORE data, it just lets you get things done faster. You would use exactly that same amount of data on 5G as on 4G.

      • Ver

        I remember when we went from 3g to 4g. I viewed exactly the same things as I did before but my data usage quadrupled. Its because web sites became more graphic intensive. That will happen again.

        • Mike Smith

          That’s not how it works. Data is data no matter which technology or speed it is delivered at. If your usage went up, it’s probably because you enjoyed the experience more and used it more.

        • marque2

          There is a bit of truth to the higher def video rates being downloaded ny default bit is not enough to matter. What could happen though is instead of downloading one movie for the plane flight – you download a dozen so you can pick and choose what to watch and then wastefully watch only one.

        • John Doe

          THERE IS A LOT OF NUANCE THERE.

          That video is encoded and transported. Those codecs used 10 years ago are not the same used today and will not be the same in 10 years. Some use more data, some use less depending on the quality of the content and guess what the speed of your internet.

      • Acdc1a

        This argument is so misleading. Video settings adjust down on a slower connection and thus use less data. Same with streaming audio and some online gaming. On my home internet I went from averaging 80-100GB to 300GB+ when I upgraded to fiber. Nothing else has changed.

        • Mike Smith

          You’re not comparing apples to apples. If you watch a video on 4G at 720P or watch a video on 5G at 720P you will consume the same amount of data. If you decide that since I’m on 5G I’m gonna stream at 4K then you’ll of course use more data… but that’s a CHOICE, not a consequence of 5G.

        • John Doe

          Again, no please stop being ignorant. 720P video is not the same and will not use the same data. The codecs that companies use change based on your internet speed and device.

          I can get you 20 different 720P videos all the same length of time but all use different amount of data because of compression techniques that companies like Youtube and Netflix implement. Those codecs change overtime as well. Streaming a 720P video from 10 years ago DOES NOT USE the same amount of data streaming it now.

          You are wrong please go take a computer science course or 10…you need it. And all of that not counting the other places your content get altered along the way to you like T-Mobile compressing it to 480P…you think they will not increase that on 5G to lets say 720P? yeah I though so.

        • Mike Smith

          You are correct that over time codecs have become more efficient, but that is not relevant to the question. The user was afraid that with 5G they would suddenly use more data doing the same things -and that is incorrect. On the same day doing the same thing on 4G vs. a 5G at the same resolution… it would be the same codec and the same data usage.

        • John Doe

          But that is not going to happen. Like I said the videos rely on a dynamic system that adjusts based on several factors including internet speeds. Youtube and Netflix for example adjust their codec they use and the resolution, bitrate, frame rate, etc. Based on your internet speed. Also clearly we are all talking about the future here not today.

  • Ver

    They are talking about 5g phones.

    • Mike Smith

      You don’t need a 5G phone to get the $15 plan. They’re wrong.

    • Pak T

      You don’t need a 5G phone for the $15 plan. But if you have a 5G phone, you will be able to take advantage of the 5G network on the $15 plan. People would be mistaken if they thought the $15 plan was a “5G Only” plan.

  • Mike Smith

    The first responder thing is a total hit on AT&T and their “First Net” contract… they are taking all that revenue away from AT&T and it’ll probably work. Hilarious.

    • Tmoblows

      yeah until its needed, tmobile has no battery backups or generators at the towers, so when the power goes out so does the service

      • Ѕροη†αηεους Μιхх ♪♫

        but does sprint?

      • SteveD

        curious as to where you got that information that T-Mo has no batteries or generators as it’s patently and provably false information.

        • Tamla

          But, yes they do. Not sure where your getting your info… But it is inaccurate

        • SteveD

          Was that for me or the OP? TMO does, in fact, have backup power for outages at their sites.

      • Mike Smith

        Totally not true, in fact there was a lot of coverage about this when batteries died and generators ran out of gas during the California fires.

        • JSully

          Oh were there? I want to see sources.

    • Greg

      It’s bs. Not cool at all

      • Mike Smith

        Why? I think it’s hilarious. Legere is always fucking with them… let’s see if AT&T matches them!

      • Martyy

        John is smart for this. Long term it will def increase revenue and customers

  • Javi

    I’m surprised people aren’t talking about this but the 15$ plan will be prepaid only, meaning no phone financing and probably no North American usage simple global etc…

    • Mike Smith

      Anybody who can only afford $15 a month doesn’t need an expensive phone or global roaming… they’re broke!

      • JSully

        “Need” is clearly a value judgment. You don’t know these people so don’t assume what the do and do not “need”.

        • Mike Smith

          If someone can only afford $15 a month or can get by with 2Gb I know all I need to know about them.

        • JSully

          I bet you do

        • Mike Thaler

          We have 8 lines on our account. Only one goes over 2G. Of course I should mention every user is over 33. We are on old plan that reduces bill by $10 for each line under 2G.

        • marque2

          You are free to buy $3000 phones to go along with your $15 plan. But I see it as a bit of a waste

        • You’re pretty smug there. It’s not about being only able to “afford” $15/month.. only dumb idiots pay more than they need to. If someone is almost always around Wifi (which is pretty commonplace these days) and 2GB, not 2Gb as you incorrectly stated, is sufficient for their non-Wifi use, then it would be downright stupid to pay more for something they won’t use. Yet they might still want and also be able to easily afford, whichever phone they think will fit there needs best, be it a $2000 phone or a $200 one. The phone and the service are 2 very different components. The rich din’t get rich (those who earned it themselves anyway) by being dumb with their money. And even if you’re not rich you shouldn’t be foolish with your assets.

        • Ver

          Good job!

        • Acdc1a

          Why would that same person who chooses not to pay more than they have to for service pay more than they have to for a phone? Surely they don’t NEED the $2,000 device in your example…

        • Well, if the $2000 phone has some function or usability factor that the person wants and is not available on lesser cost phones then why not. That wouldn’t be paying more than they need to since it would actually be something they utilize.

          My point was that they are free to choose whichever phone they want that fits their needs. It’s a different selection from service plan chosen.

        • solbin

          “LOL You only pay $70 for your phone plan??

          I am on verizon family plan and our bill is over $500/month. ”

          Who in their right mind would brag about spending money over something like a cell phone bill?

  • Greg

    Free? Not cool.

    • Mike Smith

      Huh? Who doesn’t like FREE?!

      • dcmanryan

        The people (ME) paying for someone else’s stuff.

        • Mike Smith

          How are you paying for it? Your price doesn’t go up.

        • Phone Guy

          It’s built into the overall cost. Maybe it should have gone down, but with the First Responders, now it may not, so you are paying. Personally I don’t have much of a problem giving the first responders a faster priority as they have mentioned.

        • Mike Smith

          It doesn’t work like that. T-Mobile is just doing it to screw with AT&T and Verizon who as the legacy carriers have those contracts. It’s genius really.

    • John Doe

      Free with strings and Fine print that makes it worthless…yeah not cool.

      If you believe anything is free then you need to stop drinking the koolaid

  • gorilla

    We already pay taxes and now we gotta pay the first responder’s phone bill too? I don’t know about this uncarrier stuff anymore.

    • UniBroW

      Sure, unlike with taxes you have a choice…you’re free to move to AT&T or Verizon or any of the smaller networks

      • John Doe

        No, this deal is contingent on the Sprint merger going through. There will be LESS CHOICE when that happens.

        • Travis

          Wrong. The deal closing is contingent upon a 4th carrier being created so you have the same amount of choices.

        • John Doe

          No it is not. The deal will close before a 4th carrier is created. The deal gives Dish 7 years by that time a lot can happen, nothing is set in stone.

  • Mike Thaler

    Questions:
    Is the $15 plan “regular” or prepaid?
    Does it include taxes/fees?
    Does it include Mexico, Canada and intl roaming?
    We now pay about $190/mo for 8 lines. 7 lines get a credit of $10/mo because they stay under 2G.

    • Pak T

      The $15 plan is a prepaid plan. While the announcement doesn’t give those types of details, to the best of my knowledge all of T-Mo’s prepaid plan do not include taxes nor fees, so expect a few dollars more for that.

      Also being pre-paid it likely won’t include many of the perks you might get with postpaid such as being able to finance a phone, no Netflix or free music streaming, etc. I have no idea if any of the pre-paid include Mexico or Canada or International roaming, but likely this plan will follow the same method as other pre-paid plans, so find out what they offer and it will likely be the same for this new $15 plan.

      • Mike Smith

        To be fair, some of the post-paid plans don’t include perks like Netflix either. T-Mobile in their quest for simplicity has as complicated rates as anyone. Supposedly these “grand fathered” plans will all go away after the merger for a simpler structure

  • John Doe

    What part of faster internet speeds will increase the amount of data used by services on the internet do you not understand?

  • “It’s about the value of time”

    That would be a valid argument if it took longer to select a lower cost plan over a larger cost one but as far as I know that isn’t the case.

    In any case you completely missed the point which is that you are making very arrogant assumptions, and judgements, about people just based on what cell phone plans they choose. Sure there might be some people who can “only afford” a $15 but I’m certain that most would be able to afford higher yet just choose that plan based on their preferences and use cases – not because they are broke.

  • John Doe

    Maybe you take a few courses in computer science and networking, you seem like you need it.

  • the martian ambassador

    This is now a common occurrence when companies want to merge, it’s not a bribe, it’s a shakedown by the states and interest groups. It’s actually a terrible thing for the free market, they are going to incur additional fixed costs that will make them even less likely to compete with the other wireless carriers after the merger is complete.

  • J.R. Vasquez

    Remember kids, T-Mobile is not a charity. It’s a greedy American company that has so far been NOT as bad as AT&T and Verizon. Once the merger has become official I imagine T-Mobile will still play the “Un-Carrier” bit by not charging quite as much as the other two GREEDY mofos. American Capitalism is all about SQUEEZING the consumer dry…

  • ub2noz4me

    This is perfect for my 74 year old mother ! She don’t talk much and is 99% on wifi all the time