Alcatel Idol 4S with Windows 10 Mobile leaks again, this time in T-Mobile training documents


Rumors have suggested that the Alcatel Idol 4S with Windows 10 Mobile is coming soon to T-Mobile, and while we still don’t have an official announcement about the device, another leak has surfaced that supports the previous rumors.

A T-Mobile training guide for the Alcatel Idol 4S with Windows 10 Mobile has reportedly made its way online. The folks at Windows Central shared several images from the guide today that spill the phones specs and some other details.

According to the leaked docs, the Idol 4S with Windows 10 Mobile will feature a 5.5-inch 1920×1080 AMOLED display with damage-resistant Dragontrail glass, a Snapdragon 820 processor, 4GB of RAM, 64GB of storage, and a microSD slot for adding more storage. There’s also a 3,000mAh battery with fast charging support, a fingerprint reader, an 8-megapixel front-facing camera, and a 21-megapixel rear camera.


The Idol 4S with Windows 10 Mobile is expected to support Continuum, which will let you hook up a display, mouse, and keyboard and use the phone like a full-on PC. Also included is virtual reality support, which is good because the packaging of the Idol 4S with Windows 10 Mobile will be capable of transforming into a VR headset.

Unfortunately, two details that are still a mystery are T-Mobile’s launch date for the Idol 4S with Windows 10 Mobile and its price.

T-Mo’s current Windows lineup is pretty small, with just the entry-level Alcatel Fierce XL with Windows 10 Mobile currently available. The good news is that not only will the Idol 4S with Windows 10 Mobile expand T-Mobile’s Windows lineup, but it’ll also serve as a high-end counterpart to the Fierce XL.

Source: Windows Central

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  • Earl DePass Jr.

    Sorry Microsoft, too late.

    If this phone came out a few months ago, when I was looking for a upgrade from T-Mobile to replace my Lumia 640, I would still be a Windows Phone user today.

    But, I went the Android route. I have since become dependent on Android/iOS only apps, rediscovered the customizability of Android that I once enjoyed in the WM 6.5 days, and love having the freedom to choose from a plethora of devices.

    I hope they don’t loose the few Windows Phone loyalists they have left by pricing this phone too high. It needs to be under $300.

    • tobadearl

      Too funny Earl. They have more than enough peeps to take your place. Your the one left out!

      • Acdc1a

        Windows at this point stands little chance in the mobile world.

    • Yawning

      Earl, Microsoft will survive without you. Are you a TMO Sales Rep, assigned to be an Android expert?

      There were/are plenty (a plethora!) of unlocked Windows phones available at the time you were looking to upgrade – check out Amazon, Microsoft Store, etc

      “But, I went the Android route. I have since become dependent on Android/iOS only apps, rediscovered the customizability of Android that I once enjoyed in the WM 6.5 days, and love having the freedom to choose from a plethora of devices.”

      Those comments you made above sound like they were pulled from a “create an elevator pitch for Android device” workshop. If that’s the case, you’re off to a good start. Try to use everyday language and break up your sentences a little more. Sounds too much like a sales pitch. Customers may not understand the WM 6.5 reference.

      How many quality Android devices are there with a 21 Megapixel camera and are under $300? I’m afraid they’re going to lose a lot of Android loyalists.

      • Earl DePass Jr.

        I’m not a Rep, just a disgruntled Windows mobile device user for over 10 years whose loyalty ran out.

        At the time I was looking to replace my 640 only the low end 650 and Alcatel Fierce were in stock. 950’s with the right T-Mobile radios were out of stock at the Microsoft store. The only quasi high end phone was available at the store was the Jade Primo.

        I only made the WM 6.5 reference to show how long I’ve been using Windows Mobile devices, and how I loyally stayed with Microsoft after the abandoned WM.

        The phone needs to be under $300 for it stand out and be a tempting purchase for the 98% of people who don’t own Windows phones.

      • Iamnumber6

        Earl doesn’t sound like a rep, he sounds like a lot of windows phone users whose patience just ran out. I had a Dell Venue Pro at launch, waited for update after update that promised features that never quite got implemented. I kept waiting for apps that my android friends and iOS friends would get but I never did. I moved into windows phone 8, 8.1 and waited for 10 updates that never came. I tried the a windows 10 phone, which had an os that wasn’t even beta quality when released and waited for over 8 months for the phone to become stable and it never totally did. I gave up. I am tired of waiting for microsoft to get it’s act together in mobile. The funny thing is, I have all the apps I want on android, INCLUDING all my microsoft apps and they all work great. If only Cortana would read my texts and let me voice text like on windows phone I would really like this android. Like so many others, I moved on. Take a look at the current year over year sales numbers and you will see that so many have.

  • PhoneLover

    I had an intern for Alcatel come by to study how we liked it, its not really the packaging that is a “VR” but a vr inside, it was plastic and honestly pretty good. We had a zombie “shooter on rails” to try, and just fiddle and honestly all the other reps including myself really enjoyed it. I am very excited to try this phone myself, its been pushed back a few times but the intern didnt know why. seriously cant wait

  • Alex Zapata

    Finally, a high end option!!!!

  • I really want this. By the way, the VR should work with the new Nintendo Switch.

    OAN: I would’ve switched to AT&T if this was cancelled.

  • Rob

    So T-Mobile kills one of the best Android offerings, the HTC 10, and they embrace a dying piece of crap OS? *slow clap*

    • JOHN P

      They killed off the HTC 10 because it didn’t stir up enough interest from customers. Just like most other HTC devices of the last couple of years. In case you didn’t realize, HTC is in trouble. Trying to compete with Samsung at the high end and losing.

      It has nothing to do with embracing this device or any other device. This device will disappear too if it doesn’t whip up interest from customers.

      • Rob

        Of course the HTC 10 didn’t sell well. How do you expect a device most stores refused to sell to do well? The reason HTC phones don’t sell well on T-Mobile is because the stores sabotage them. When I wanted the M8, my local store didn’t even have it on display. I had to get the manager to go get it for me. They had no advertising for it whatsoever and they still tried to talk me into buying a Samsung instead and pushed so hard about how great the Samsung was that I almost walked out of the store!

        Fast forward to the 10 and none of the stores in my area decided to carry it at all!

        The stores should not have the authority to decide what they will and will not sell and they should also not be allowed to talk customers out of one device and into another. They should be there to give suggestions when asked, not to spew vitriol about a device someone wants.

        Alas T-Mobile is practically run by Samsung at this point so brand equality will never be a trait of the uncarrier.

        • JOHN P

          No argument from me there. I’ve said it over and over again in these and other forums that T-Mobile is only concerned about pushing the iPhone and Galaxy line out the door. If you are a customer who doesn’t want either of those products, you are left to figure it out on your own. That’s why I buy my phones at other places besides T-Mobile

        • Rob

          I have Jump 1 so going elsewhere isn’t really an option for me.

        • PhoneLover

          Just a bit of a background, only 600 (my minds a bit foggy by this point) were even given it. Stores do NOT have the ability to “not show” the phone unless their some indirect retailer and not corporate. In addition, the reps will usually push what gets them a “spiff”. when the htc 10 came out LG had a HUGE spiff for the phone, like free TV’s free $200 for the store to fill their fridge etc, so every rep pushed that phone, most likely killing the phone. When only 1/3 of the stores ever received the phone, the rest were ship to only/if they could get one transferred in, is it surprising at all that it didn’t do well?

        • Rob

          The stores that got them hid them in the back. It’s T-Mobile’s incentive program that’s the problem. The HTC 10 is one of the best devices they ever made, such a shame.

    • I hear it was pulled because of HTC10 problems with T-mobs “network features”, probably VoLTE and WFC.

      • Rob

        You would be wrong. VoLTE and WiFi Calling work perfectly on both T-Mobile firmware and US unlocked firmware.

    • WittyPixel

      was not selling well, The HTC brand is dying because they are getting murdered by the competition.

      • Rob

        Well with Samsung’s hubris literally blowing up in their faces, let’s see if HTC can become competitive again. The Google deal definitely had to have infused HTC with some cash.

        HTC said they were done after the M8 yet they’re still here. Even after the overheating M9 thanks to Qualcomm.

        Consumers are very wary of Samsung after this mass recall of the Note 7. Your average consumer doesn’t have any idea that all LiCo batteries can explode due to their chemistry, all they know is that Samsung phones were exploding and they will remember that the same way they remembered that HTC devices always had bad cameras.

        • WittyPixel

          i agree slightly, HTC doesn’t have a problem with their phones (aside from the M7) they have a problem with their brand. HTC hasn’t put out a solid or stand out product since the M7. That thing had amazing speakers! but crazy camera and heating issues.

  • WittyPixel

    That can’t compete anymore, They’re on their way to becoming BlackBerry and they’re phones have nothing unique of different to offer from top selling brands.

    • Ordeith

      It’s an alternative that doesn’t involve selling your soul (or your privacy) to the world’s largest advertising company.

      • WittyPixel

        they run android so google hook into that if that’s what you’re talking about.

        • Slacker

          They run Android? You’re either on the wrong thread or smoked some crack…

        • WittyPixel

          wrong thread lol I hate disqus, I clicked on my HTC discussion and it posted here -__-

        • Slacker

          haha fair enough then!

  • Steven

    I wonder what the release date and price will be? I really like my Lumia 640, but want to see what my 640 replacement will be to keep me up to speed with Windows 10. Since T-Mobile won’t help to support Windows 10 on the 640 like they promised. I really hope this thing is under $300.

    • beachtrax

      I have a 640 on Win10 which I installed through the Windows insider program. It works well enough like that . It’s not my daily driver but it’s nice to have as a back up. I bought a number of the Lumia 640 for $30 each before they disappeared. For now I will keep away from Alcatel. The Dragontail glass screen on my Windows 10 Alcatel phone (Tmobile) is just a terrible fingerprint magnet. I can’t tolerate using it. A screen protector will solve it from what I hear.

  • Bill P

    I was bored and check the T-Mobile site just now. The Alcatel Fierce XL with Windows 10 is no longer listed.