TVision Home is T-Mobile’s new TV service, launching April 14th

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One week after announcing its content deal with Viacom, T-Mobile has taken the wraps off of its new TV effort.

TVision Home is T-Mobile’s television service, a rebranded and upgraded version of the Layer3 TV product that T-Mobile bought last year. The service uses your wired broadband connection and includes more than 275 channels, including HD premium channels and 4K content, and T-Mo promises more than 35,000 on-demand movies and shows. Customers also get a DVR with 1TB of storage, letting them save more than 400 hours of HD content for viewing later.

Along with traditional TV channels, T-Mobile says that streaming services like Pandora, iHeartRadio, XUMO, CuriosityStream, Toon Googles, and HSN will be available at launch, with Netflix, YouTube, and Amazon Video coming later. You can connect your social networks to view Facebook photos and Twitter profiles, too, and you can access your security cameras to keep an eye on your house while you’re on the couch. Support for controlling TVision Home with Amazon Alexa or Google Assistant is included as well.

AI plays a role in TVision Home, with a personalized UI that’ll get smarter the more content you watch. The AI will remember what you watch as well as when and where you watch it to serve up shows for you based on the hour and your location.

In the future, T-Mobile plans to launch a TVision Home companion app for Android and iOS so that you can watch TV on your smartphone anywhere in your house.

T-Mobile is launching TVision Home on April 14th in Chicago, Dallas-Fort Worth, Los Angeles, New York City, Philadelphia, San Francisco, Washington D.C., and Longmont, CO. More markets are coming later this year.

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When it comes to pricing, TVision Home will cost $90 per month, including a $9.99 per month discount for T-Mobile customers that’s available to everyone for a limited time. You can add connected TVs for $10 per month per television set. Premium TV packages like HBO and Showtime as well as on-demand rentals are extra.

Like with Carrier Freedom and its wireless service, T-Mobile is launching a Satellite Freedom offer for TVision Home. With this deal, T-Mobile will pay off contract termination fees for Dish and DirecTV customers, up to a $500 via a prepaid card, when they switch to TVision Home.

While TVision Home currently runs on a cable box, T-Mobile has plans to bring TVision on “popular third-party TV platforms”, letting you download an app and select your home or mobile subscriptions.

It’s nice to see T-Mobile getting the ball rolling on its home TV service more than a year after first announcing plans to get into the TV business. That said, the market for TV services has been heating up lately, with the emergence of streaming services like Sling TV, YouTube TV, Playstation Vue, and others, and so T-Mo is going to be facing some stiff competition right out of the gate.

Now that it’s official, what do you think of TVision Home? Do you plan on signing up when it’s available in your city?

Source: T-Mobile, TVision

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  • This pricing isn’t going to “disrupt the industry”, at least not in my area.

    • skywalkr2

      or anyone else’s area.

  • lomsha

    No one’s trying to pay $90 for tv in this cord cutting age. And only $10 discount for tmo customers. What a joke lmao.

    • John Doe

      And it uses your home internet!!! The audacity.

      • stuman19741974 .

        Huh? It’s not an LTE delivery to the main box? If not, what the hell justifies a $80 cost if you still need a separate home internet feed???

        • John Doe

          “And while TVision Home uses your existing wired broadband today, TVision Home is IPTV designed for a 5G future where wireless broadband can replace your home internet. That means millions can finally free themselves from the Cableopoly once and for all.”

          They are saying only if the sprint merger is approved will they deliver it over 5G and of course that will probably cost more money.

        • MisterListerSir

          Yeah, you’d replace your cable bill with their 5G bill. Not much of a get there.

    • Harlimus

      it’s $100/month, because the $10 discount brings it to $90. the pricing on this is insane.

  • John Doe

    This is SHIT!

    T-Mobile wants people to pay $90 for a television service that runs on my internet!!!

    AND I can only use it in my house!!!

    Good one T-Mobile but April 1st passed already.

  • Raymond Matthew Cummins

    well they do have HBO so…beats Dish Already lol

    • JayBEE

      funny ’cause it’s true!

  • teckn9ne79

    Most people with dish on directv do not have internet for streaming so this is useless for rural.And $90 is just nuts i was thinking $40 this will disrupt nothing.

  • Bruce Wayne

    Hahahaha. $90 per month.

    DOA.

  • Jason

    Well I am at not yet. If there is a true streaming version that is around 40 I may be game. Right now I am happy with Hulu with live TV for 45 a month.

  • tranceformer978

    I think this was supposed to be announced nine days ago on April 1st.

    • JayBEE

      *zing*!

  • Hank Carias

    LOL! I like T-mobile as my provider but hey T-mobile here are a few tips: No one wants to pay more than $40-50 for cable TV. DirecTV and Sling use an app to stream TV. TiVo is going downhill because we are in the STREAMING ERA. Top Boxes will become extinct very soon. So why would you choose this route? so you can sell hardware that nobody wants? I was looking forward to his until I saw the box and the pricing. DEAD on ARRIVAL!

    • adampk17

      Personally I still prefer set top boxes and local storage for your DVR. I live in the land of Comcast 1TB/mo data caps and I come close enough every month without streaming any TV.

      • Acdc1a

        It’s time to reflect on your life choices if you are at 1TB/mo.

        • skywalkr2

          Not really. If you stream 4k you will eat it up quickly

        • adampk17

          I’m not a light user myself but try having a teenager in your house. They are data vacuums.

        • Acdc1a

          I do, but they have limits on tech time. As soon as they’re 16 they need a job so the problem will just work itself out naturally.

        • dcmanryan

          Not really. My Nest doorbell uploads 400-450gb if set to the highest quality.

          Pay your ISP the extra cash and get unlimited and then order a paid IPTV service and have a decent VPN and say pissoff to every TV provider there is including T-Mobile and this garbage plan .

  • THXULTRA

    T-Mobile go home you are drunk. Tell me again how this is a good deal… At these prices T-Mobile should be scared of Comcast which also has mobile phone service that is cheaper then T-Mobile. How can T-mobile call this service disruptive when it still has box fees and Costs $90 a month (you can get sling for $25). On top of that Comcast has better features, you can stream to other tvs for free, Bring your dvr with on vacation and stream some channels outside your house. This is a joke.

    • Jay Holm

      How does Comcast service work, isn’t it dependent on wifi?

      • THXULTRA

        Comcast service works off Verizon’s network and XFINITY hot spots. Service is really good.

        • Jay Holm

          Oh, so it is an MVNO.

        • THXULTRA

          Ya off Verizon’s network. Have a friend that has it and says it works as good as Verizon he hasn’t noticed any issues. Tempting to get for $35 a month for unlimited.

  • Josh Warfel

    I’m usually a huge T-Mobile “fan boy” when it comes to most things.. But I think they have “missed the boat” on a few things with this new TV service..

    I currently pay Dish $95 per month (including all of the taxes and fees), which includes 2TB of DVR storage shared with 3 TVs and approx 200 channels. I also have the ability to watch all of my channels and recordings outside of my home..

    In comparison, T-Mobile is proposing $90 (base fee) + $10 per connected TV. This would be $120 in my case. This would be for a smaller DVR (1TB vs 2TB). They also hinted at not being able to watch from anywhere (several mentions of “anywhere within your home with the app”). This is a downgrade for me with a higher price tag. No thank you.

    What happened to what T-Mobile COO Mike Sievert said of the T-Mobile’s video strategy earlier this year: “But we think there’s a more nuanced role for us to play in helping you … to be able to put together your own media subscription in smaller pieces. $5, $6, $7, $8 at a time.” This, I would be highly interested in..

    • skywalkr2

      I think your plan with Dish would be hard for anyone to beat. Unfortunately I live in a house that isn’t allowed to have a dish on my roof.

      • maestro PL

        There is a federal law that requires landlords/condo associations to provide you with a space to install a dish, as long as it is 40″ in diameter or smaller. Google it.

        • skywalkr2

          I just checked that law, and here is where it makes it so i cant. The only place that is only my use would be my ground level deck, and I doubt that is good place for dish installation. The law: “Exclusive use” refers to an area of the property that only renters and their guests may enter and use. If the area is shared with others or accessible without the renter’s permission, it is not considered to be an exclusive use area.

  • jason p

    Who would pay that much? Then have to pay for home internet? $10 a month for the box? Are they serious? As others have said to be disruptive it had to have a good price and not require home internet. $40 all in might be noticable in the marketplace, $90 +++ yawn.

    • skywalkr2

      At $40 I would buy in.

  • AndrewR91

    DOA at $80 or $90 a month

  • Ben Nicholls

    Hey, Cable and Satellite TV services are declining, so lets make a service exactly like them, but worse.

    1. Offer one bloated, overpriced bundle. Check
    2. Require a proprietary set top box. Check
    3. Charge a monthly fee for each additional box. Check
    4. No remote access at release. Check
    5. Bonus round, make the customer pay for their own bandwidth. Check

    • SirStephenH

      #2 and #3 are only temporary. Streaming apps are coming.

      “While TVision Home currently runs on a cable box, T-Mobile has plans to bring TVision on “popular third-party TV platforms”, letting you download an app and select your home or mobile subscriptions.”

  • adampk17

    Too expensive.

  • Acdc1a

    $90? LOL!

  • skywalkr2

    So expensive. I will stick to my $35 DirecTV Now

  • MisterListerSir

    *laughing*

    Yeah, um….no.

    I was really hopeful for this. What a huge disappointment.

  • icwhatudidthere

    This is a week late for April Fool’s Day.

  • Acdc1a

    “TVision Home launches at $90/month (including a $9.99/month discount for T-Mobile customers … but available to everyone for a limited time)… Plus $10/month per connected TV…Compare that to the average cable bill of $107.30/month.”

    So what you’re saying is if I’m paying the average cable bill and I have 2 TV’s you’re going to increase my bill by $2.70 per month. You can’t make this up!!

    • KenLin

      Don’t forget, you get to still keep paying for broadband

    • SirStephenH

      It would be $100/month (including the $9.99 discount) for 2 TVs. The $10/month is for TVs beyond the first. You won’t even have to pay the $10/TV once they roll out streaming apps, just buy a device instead.

      “While TVision Home currently runs on a cable box, T-Mobile has plans to bring TVision on “popular third-party TV platforms”, letting you download an app and select your home or mobile subscriptions.”

  • Bryck

    No thanks!! I’ll stick with Ps Vue $49.99 plan.

  • Francisco Peña

    LMFAO.. $90 for this? I can get a triple play bundle with digital phone, up to 200mbps internet/ and similar channel lineups for $90 now, from 2 of our cable providers in the area.

  • JayBEE

    *checks various sources to make sure that we all haven’t been sent back to the year 1998*

  • OZ

    T-Mobile. This is DOA.

  • kev2684

    $90 no Netflix, Hulu, HBO or any premium channels included lol
    How is this different than other cable packages?

    AT&T offers Internet and cable bundle at that price!

    • AstroCud

      This. I pay $120 month for AT&T’s 100 Mbps & DirecTV. This is a truly a joke. I think T-Mobile is comparing there cost to none-discounted prices…but seriously, everyone knows you only pay that much if you’re too lazy to call your provider and complain or simply ask to receive a discounted rate.

      • kev2684

        Yeah i think we have the same pricing structure but U-Verse instead of DirecTV which is basically the same. This is bad lol

  • Probablynot

    If that INCLUDED their new Home Internet at that price, thumbs up.

    Why would I pay $90 PLUS $10 per TV for something I can get for $40 (Youtube TV or one of the many other streaming services) and have on all my TV’s. This is going to flop so hard it’s not even funny.

    • SirStephenH

      “While TVision Home currently runs on a cable box, T-Mobile has plans to bring TVision on “popular third-party TV platforms”, letting you download an app and select your home or mobile subscriptions.”

      You likely won’t need to rent additional equipment in the future. Just buy a compatible device.

      • Louis D.

        What a surprise, that you keep repeating the same comment, so I’ll keep repeating mine. Layer3 has been promising an app since launch. Years later and they still haven’t delivered. I’m not holding my breath for T-Mobile to do so.

  • Alex Pilaia

    Why is this so unnecessarily expensive? It should be Tmo offering TVison Home + Internet + Tmo One Cell Phone Plan for $120/mo. I know that anyone can get a triple play from Fios or anywhere else from between $90/mo – $130/mo (depending on if you are a new customer or not)… Tmo doing their own Triple Play (With Tmo 1 replacing the home land line, and adding the 1TB DVR + internal TVison software updates) would make cord cutting so much easier for everyone. Make it happen Tmo.

  • V2THE1

    DOA man. Why would anyone pap those prices for that?

  • Stephen J. Sundberg

    Who wants this crap??

  • lithdoc

    What a joke! I pay $35 for Youtube TV for what is much superior service.

    • JG

      Not for much longer… As per 9to5Google:

      Starting today, YouTube TV costs $49.99 per month for new members that sign-up on the web or Android. Users that are billed through Apple will be charged $54.99 to account for the App Store in-app purchase fee

      That [$35 grandfathering] is not the case with today’s pricing increase and all existing subscribers will be charged $49.99 starting May 13th

      But in exchange, we will get Discovery Channel, HGTV, Food Network, TLC, Investigation Discovery, Animal Planet, Travel Channel, and MotorTrend

  • riverhorse

    This is very preliminary, addons are being negotiated as we speak. And the value will become apparent when 5G materializes(drop wired broadband).
    Also, I can quote low cable prices, but those are all introductory deals and/or raised all the time…one needs to constantly cancel and resubscribe, usually under a different person.
    All that being said, cable tv rules over any streaming option. With the latter, there is always some game or local channel not available. And buck Netflix, Hulu, Amazon Prime– it’s like reading only nonfiction books–progressively rotting away IQ between that and the accompanying booze, pot and junk food.

    • alfonzso

      Cable is so competitive where I live that our provider keeps extending our intro deal. That said, I’m looking for something to replace cable and now I know it won’t be TVision, as it looks way too much like cable.

      • riverhorse

        Same here, where i used to live, unfortunately.
        Guess I’ll continue paying for cable top tier. .. i can’t stand unavailable programs.

    • skywalkr2

      You are correct about regional sports. I have DirecTV Now and can’t get any of the local sports.

    • SirStephenH

      Not all providers keep deals introductory only. Wave Broadband always allows us to get in on the latest deals. We just call them up and ask. No need to threaten to leave them.

      • riverhorse

        True.
        Although I trust T-Mo more for grandfathering.

  • alfonzso

    This service is only for middle-aged people (no offense) wanting to keep cable but at the same time be able to act cool and tell their friends they ditched cable.

    • Reagan1

      Easy…Ha. I’ll be sticking with FIOS, this TMO service would save me about zero, in fact, cost more. What a joke of a rollout.

  • gorilla

    $90 just for TV service?? That is just outrageous!
    I can get internet service + cable tv for much less.
    Tmo needs to include unlimited 5g broadband for this price.

  • rwmgd2

    This is just rebranded Layer3 TV.

  • raygu303

    Naw, I’m good! I’ll keep my $50 sling TV package! They want to charge $90 plus $10 per TV?!?! What are they smoking???

    • SirStephenH

      “While TVision Home currently runs on a cable box, T-Mobile has plans to bring TVision on “popular third-party TV platforms”, letting you download an app and select your home or mobile subscriptions.”

      Just buy a compatible streaming device when T-Mobile rolls out streaming apps and do away with equipment rentals.

      • Louis D.

        You keep repeating the same comment, so I’ll keep repeating mine. Maybe just post the comment once? Layer3 has been promising an app since launch. Years later and they still haven’t delivered. I’m not holding my breath for T-Mobile to do so.

  • Nate

    @disqus_GfdUsaWwWX:disqus Same here! $90 for just TV service! Nope, it’s a non starter at that price. That price would need to include broadband 100MB internet as well before I would be interested. I am usually a T-Mobile fan but for this price, there is no value at all to me. T-Mobile needs to fire the research and advisory panel for this program because it is not ever going to fly for this price.

    Price it at $30 to $40 bucks a month and include as many TV boxes as needed for free, limit 4 per house or something and maybe throw in a sub or two to netflix, CBS, Hulu or the new Disney service when it comes out and I would be interested.

    • Reagan1

      I’d be ok with a tad higher than that, say $50-ish, IF they allowed you to buy the TV boxes outright as a 1-time charge and be done with it. It is an absolute scam that people have to pay a monthly fee for their TV/Cable boxes.

      • SirStephenH

        “While TVision Home currently runs on a cable box, T-Mobile has plans to bring TVision on “popular third-party TV platforms”, letting you download an app and select your home or mobile subscriptions.”

        You’ll be able to access it through an app on streaming devices in the future. Buy a compatible device and there’d be no need for equipment rentals.

        • Louis D.

          You keep repeating the same comment, so I’ll keep repeating mine. Layer3 has been promising an app since launch. Years later and they still haven’t delivered. I’m not holding my breath for T-Mobile to do so.

  • JG

    Anyone else bothered by the video?

    At 0:14, he mentions the “rats nest of wires” and shows their power strip… Normal enough until you get to the back of it and there’s an orange + connector plugged in. The kind that you plug into the power supply and get 3 additional outlets to use…

    Not a problem. It’s showing they need more outlets than the power strip provides… I get that…. As a gadget geek, I often run out of outlets to plug chargers and other peripherals into.

    Except they have it running parallel to their power strip. So the two arms extend out over the neighboring plugs, making them inaccessible. And you probably couldn’t plug anything into the arms and the neighboring outlet as well as the plugs would physically run into each other.

    So when they plugged the extension in, rather than adding to their total usable outlet count, they actually took two outlets out. So WTF is it doing there?!?

  • I really thought it would be something similar to “Att WatchTV” service. 30+ channels for free for One plans and $10 add-on a month without One plans. But this $90 a month is DOA.

  • ChiTownT3x

    This is DOA. Especially when considering even with no promo’s or discounts you can get 100+ channels on Direct Tv Now for 65 dollars. Not to mention other packages offered by Sling, Youtube, etc for even cheaper.

    275 channels is great but in all honesty how many people care about having 275 channels? I think on average I use maybe 10 tops. Honestly at 90 dollars the price isn’t even competitive. It might be against normal cable and dish services but vs other streaming options Tmo is the most expensive one by far.

  • Bruce Wayne

    Or I can just stick with my $50 PS Vue package with five devices and unlimited DVR.

  • the martian ambassador

    I cut the cord over a decade ago and I’m not going back. I prefer to subscribe to a couple of inexpensive streaming services. Mostly these comprehensive packages are families with children..that’s really the only type of household where this could make sense.

  • JG

    When it comes to pricing, TVision Home will cost $90 per month, including a $9.99 per month discount for T-Mobile customers that’s available to everyone for a limited time.

    In regards to the “that’s available to everyone for a limited time” bit… Does this mean everyone who signs up during this “limited time” will get the $9.99/month discount, even if they’re not a T-Mobile subscriber?

    Will the discount continue for non-subscribers (assuming they keep the TV service active) after the limited time has expired? Or is it going to be more an introductory offer kind of thing or a “If you you really want to keep it, consider adding a line at T-Mobile” kind of thing…

    And one thing I really hate about this kind of thing…. What about those of us who might be interested in the platform but are not residents of the few lucky cities to get selected for the initial rollout?

    I had to pay $40 per month for my YouTube TV rather than $35 simply because the local channels in my neck of the woods were one of the last to sign up… If Random J. Chicagoan can get a discount but I can’t in Hooterville just because it’ll be 2022 by the time TVision gets here….

  • Karl Thomas

    This has to be the worse product ever…

    – overpriced – All of the competing offers cost $50 or less

    – requires a proprietary box. All of the other services support every other device – AppleTV, Amazon Firestick, Roku, etc.

    -no access on mobile phones

    – extra fees for additional TVs

    • JJ

      I agree that it is horrible but cox, comcast and other similar services are around 110 to 120. Only thing that is lower than this is sling tv, playstation vue and similar. But either way, this pricing is horrible and i hope people don’t sign up.

    • SirStephenH

      “requires a proprietary box. All of the other services support every other device – AppleTV, Amazon Firestick, Roku, etc.”

      Sounds like not for long.

      “While TVision Home currently runs on a cable box, T-Mobile has plans to bring TVision on “popular third-party TV platforms”, letting you download an app and select your home or mobile subscriptions.”

      • Louis D.

        Layer3 has been saying this for years. We’ll see if TMO can deliver in a reasonable amount of time.

  • Wayren

    I’m really surprised at how weak an offering this is for the price . Disruptive my ass .

  • Rob Delp

    No, this product is the same garbage that the normal cable people provide.. there is no WOW or excitement. I love tmo but this service is nothing more than I get now. Actually my TV service is less than this service because I get internet with it. So I would have to pay more for my home internet (fiber 300mpbs up and down) if I go to another TV provider. So these service tmo is offering is a no go. Maybe at 50/mo tax/fees included, then there is some WOW too it. As for apps like Youtube, Netflix, Pandora in one place.. its called my phone or Ruko. most smart TVs have all those apps..so another non-event. Sorry Tmo.. worst product pricing ever.

    • SirStephenH

      I’d expect 5G home internet/TV bundles in the future.

  • Rob Delp

    Oh and another thing… I DON”T NEED 250+ channels!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! EVER! I need like 20 or so. Why do I have to pay for channels I don’t even want or watch? Thats a pain point for me with EVERY TV service.

    • Alex Pilaia

      Exactly. Why cant a TV Service just offer every channel a la carte at $2/channel? If I want 30 stations, its $60/mo. If I want 50, its $100/mo. I know for a fact most people only watch there normal 10-20 channels on a consistent basis. ESPN, ABC, FOX, CBS, yada yada…

    • SirStephenH

      I don’t get why you have to pay extra for access to each channel when you can only watch 1 at a time. Content providers should be paid for viewing time, not access.

  • rosedog

    I was potentially interested in this before but not now, not ever. I was thinking this was going to be $60-$70…TOPS!

    Thanks but NO THANKS! You better take your ball and go home. Playstation VUE most expensive package sounds like a steal at this point.

    • JJ

      I am hoping that pricing will go down after this backlash. At $50 i think this would be disruptive. Anything higher and you are better off getting those yearly cable deals.

  • Glenn

    I ditched cable because it was too expensive, and I really didn’t give a sh*t about 99% of the channels that I had. I also thought it was ridiculous that I had to pay even more per additional TV in my house. This service sounds exactly the same.

    I’ll stick with my $25 Sling TV.

  • vplaza

    This would have been interesting…. five to seven years ago. My guess is this service was in the works that long ago but it took so long to deliver, the model they chose to roll out with is so outdated and overpriced.

    Unfortunately, it’s 2019 and this is just a rehash of what is currently out there or worse. Swing and a HUGE miss for T-Mo.

  • Reagan1

    I love TMO, but this is a disaster of a service. The pricing is horrible and does nothing to combat cable companies. I’m in one of the available cities and will NOT be signing up for this. DOA, what were they thinking.

    • Reagan1

      And TMO is getting blown up on Twitter…hard to watch the poor TMO employee saps trying to defend this with some BS about better experience than cable companies. Huh???

      • gorilla

        Yeah, I see John Legere replying everyone with a same copy and paste message which doesn’t even make sense. Dissapointed in him.

  • James White

    Hmmm. Requires a wired home internet line to work. Seems Dish is a much better deal than this.

  • Android_God

    BWAHAHA!!!

    So, let me see if I have this right. The slick sales guy who claims he wants to, “disrupt” the cable industry, is introducing a television package priced HIGHER than many cable companies?

    Sorry, John, but your shtick is getting old!

    • JJ

      He’s done very well with the mobile cell part of it but this is just a disaster. This just shows how hard the tv industry is. I bet he couldn’t lower price because he has to pay so much to get access to channels. Reason why now google is raising pricing on their plan that started at 35 and is now 50.

      • Reagan1

        This +1000. I’m all for the free market, but the gov’t should be very leery of allowing distributors (Comcast, VZ, etc) to own/buy up content (Universal, Disney, etc.). They control the whole “shebang” and can dictate pricing to a newcomer like TMO at will. Hell, they have the massive “devil” (Google) by the you know what as you stated.

        • SirStephenH

          YES! TV providers shouldn’t be allowed to own content production.

  • Will

    This is the first time in a while I’ve been truly disappointed with T-Mobile.

    I like the idea of the “everything in one box” setup they’re talking about and the profiles to make things more personal. And you have to love the video…. BUT……

    With this hardware setup and price point you are better off with one of the streaming providers. Even if you have to increase your data cap with your ISP, which could cost $50 or more, to cover the extra data used. (Assuming your ISP has a cap on your plan)
    Having to do this myself would mean my current monthly wouldn’t actually change. I suspect that this would probably be true for a lot of people.

    I was hoping to see more of “mini package” deal. A core package that would have covered some basics, similar to the Sling TV packs, with some smaller channel packs of 3-5 channels in the $5-$10 range. Most people I know only watch maybe 10-15 channels in their homes anyway and they don’t like paying for the 100+ they don’t.

    The only thing disruptive about this is the fact there’s no contract to get what would be a contract price point for regular cable/satellite.

    • JJ

      I couldn’t have said it better myself. This doesn’t feel like it comes from tmobile because of how bad the plan is. Especially when you advertise that it is going to disrupt the cable industry like the cell phone plans did. Not even close. Well, as long as their network continues to improve i’m good. Maybe the pricing will change at some point.

      • Will

        I added a new comment to the main string but just adding my thought on pricing here as well.
        The pricing just isn’t competitive enough, no doubt. But, if Layer3 had contracts already locked in for channel packs and prices with various content providers, T-Mobile might have to just deal with those until they can be renegotiated or new contracts signed. If that’s the case, then I hope we’ll see some better pricing in the future. If not, then let’s hope they realize that this isn’t going to cut it for most of us.

  • MichaelSt

    The people this was advertised to back when he mentioned how much trouble it is to have multiple subscriptions and apps are likely the people who cut the cord or use all online based TV already. To them, this is going backwards, and IMO is in fact going backwards with the industry. Roku already does a good job of putting everything together into one cheap box.

    I talked to a friend who installs for Dish, and he said they are moving away from TV as a focus. Dish service is branching out into even servicing appliances because they know eventually everybody will have online based TV and they need to survive the change.

    I was mildly interested in this, but not now. I cut satellite years ago because of the price, and I just use streaming services. I’m blown away at the prices people pay just to have a few channels with commercials. Then you can only watch what you want when it’s on, or has been on. All of those “benefits” plus a premium price? The whole industry has it backwards. Only being able to watch what is on at certain times plus commercials should make live TV cheaper (that’s how we have “Free” movies on Vudu and Roku, the commercials pay for them), while no commercials should make On-Demand TV higher. On-Demand is more of a premium setup since you have no commercials, all the episodes at once, all the TV and Movies available at one time, etc. I understand the industry has evolved into this, but the value proposition seems rather dumb for normal TV services.

  • MichaelSt

    My dad dropped satalite, upgraded his cable from 24mb to 100mb, and signed up for Hulu live tv (already had Hulu). It saved him a lot of money, still has the channels he wants plus dvr service, and now has the added benefit of watching live Tv options on demand as well as included CBS all access (which has most of the shows he wanted and didn’t have to pay for all access on the side). He also has much better internet now.

    I don’t see where this service fits into the emerging market. If it requires a good broadband service, then there are much better options already here.

  • Fattest L I have ever seen in my life, just lit them up on Twitter, I encourage everyone else who has Twitter to do the same.

  • Android_God

    This feels a little bit dirty in a sense. Does this mean that once T-Mobile launches 5g home internet that they are going to price it at $90 for TV and $50 for the data to power it?

    It’s a real shame that they have done this. The box, the remote, and the interface looks super cool! it’s too bad that this isn’t available as a streaming box like Roku but maybe that’s not what they want to do.

    It’s hilarious to watch them play from the cable TV playbook by bragging that they have 275 channels. This is EXACTLY what cable companies used to do back in the day.

    • Reagan1

      And charging $10 PER box…cable company tactic to a “T”. I really wanted to consolidate to TMO for everything, but this makes ZERO sense for us, especially with 4 TV’s. Major fail.

      • SirStephenH

        It sounds like they might be bringing apps to smart TVs which would do away with the need for additional boxes. It’s ridiculous that any service charges extra for equipment REQUIRED for the use of that service.

      • teaReactor

        It would make sense if it were an EIP per box than a permanent $10/fee… maybe that will be the idea in the future. Right now the equipment is probably a “beta” project technically.

    • johnnyxlayer

      Tmobile is going to make layer3tv work on many platforms not just there box

  • warpwiz

    Don’t see any mention of local channels. And the only internet provider available to me limits me to 400gb/month. This makes my cable look pretty good.

    • johnnyxlayer

      All local channels are included I have layer3tv

  • David

    I pay $67 a month for Directv and i am happy with i have ,too bad it was not priced around $50-55,would be great…Good T-Mobile!

  • Will

    Just adding in a couple of thoughts beyond my initial comment yesterday.

    The set top box idea isn’t a bad idea at all, though it needs to be paired with a good mobile experience. Being able to control everything with one remote is great and if the box will let you do that then the box is a winner. Having to switch between TV, Chromecast, FireTV, Roku with multiple remotes is a minor hassle and simplifying that is a selling point, albeit a very minor one.

    I’m not defending the pricing but there may be some restriction on what they could do based on existing contracts that Layer3 had signed prior to acquisition which might have T-Mobile locked in on channel packages and pricing for now. Obviously this is a pure guess, but it would explain pricing somewhat.

    • SirStephenH

      “Having to switch between TV, Chromecast, FireTV, Roku with multiple remotes is a minor hassle”

      TVs switch to the Chromecast’s input automatically when you connect to it. A smart TV with a proper cable box remote does away with the need for multiple remotes.

  • Ty Christensen

    Why would anybody get this? YouTube TV for $50, unlimited DVR with full DVR capability no stupid ads you have to watch, local channels, share with up to 6 people, watch it anywhere, best sports channels I’ve been able to find anywhere and now that they added: Food, Discovery, HGTV, TLC etc. they’re unbeatable! I split it with two siblings and we pay $17.80 each I mean come on TMo $100, really? This will fail big time.

  • mikeZo6

    Been looking at all comments LOOKS like Tmobile TV scrapped before even starts wow Tmo disappointed us with super high prices and really NOT A DEAL BREAKER AT ALL

  • steven berson

    I was looking forward to t-mobile disrupting the industry but I’m very disappointed in the value. This is no different compared to comcast and att. They should have done a base plan $25-$35 with ~50 channels + dvr and mini add on packages for $5-$10. Also a plan for customers that want all channels for $70-$80 up to 4 tvs. $100 is way overpriced. I’ll stick with my SlingTV $25 for 55 channels.

  • johnnyxlayer

    I have layer3tv and it is pricey but u get way more channels then any other pay TV service I have tried all of them and they all have way more negatives then layer3tv’s price

  • SirStephenH

    “In the future, T-Mobile plans to launch a TVision Home companion app for Android and iOS so that you can watch TV on your smartphone anywhere in your house.”

    I’m sorry but a service like this should follow you wherever you go. Why shouldn’t people be allowed to watch a TV service that they’re paying for during their commute, road trips, vacations, etc?

    “While TVision Home currently runs on a cable box, T-Mobile has plans to bring TVision on “popular third-party TV platforms”, letting you download an app and select your home or mobile subscriptions.”

    Streaming apps will be wonderful. It’s something that the Obama administration tried and failed to force onto cable companies that would have done away with with the “need” for expensive equipment rentals. Glad to see T-Mobile embracing this.

  • johnnyxlayer

    How about u guys check it out before saying it’s too over priced they give u a 2 week trial to check it out if u don’t like it u can cancel it and get ur money back

    • Reagan1

      Honestly, what’s to try? You can see all of the info about the service already. So, they have 50000 channels, big deal. Most people watch maybe 10 at most, consistently, and you can get those same 50000 channels with cable…plus watch on other devices. I can investigate the same thing with a cable provider. Sure, the TMO box might be cool, but if you need multiple, it’s a cost. All of this is really no different than a cable company and even worse when u can get a triple play. And with TMO you still need internet for probably $60/mo at a minimum. Complete fail, especially as it was pitched by Legere.

      I’m glad you like it and it works for you, but the reaction so far is a major disappointment for most. Not really much to try at this point. Hope it evolves in a better direction.

      • CJNewYork

        If it included 5G internet then it’s worth a look.

        • Jerry Rich

          If it included 6G it would still be overpriced!

  • Brian

    I was paying $95 to the cable company with 150 channels plus 5 TVs connected and included HBO and Showtime. I now have Playstation Vue and it is much cheaper. I love T-mobile and their services and I was looking forward to this but I will have to pass on ths one.

  • CJNewYork

    Disappointing. If they had included internet they would’ve had something. Hell, Cable is giving me TV WITH HBO and Showtime along with 200Mbps internet and phone for $160. Getting this would be like a downgrade with no cost savings, since I would still need internet service and pay for HBO.
    I was curious about this, but now it’s like, meh.

  • noh1bvisas

    I was hoping this would be a replacement for youtubeTV since they are raising the price, but alas, no.

    • CA Trump Supporter

      Get someone (you trust) to “share” the cost of Youtube TV.

  • Danny Rodriguez

    This is an epic fail . Wtf were they thinking with that pricing ???

  • teresa mays

    is there a tvision app for roku and firetv. will there be streaming functions with this new service?

  • Jerry Rich

    Way overpriced! They need to have pricing lower than DirectTV Now and YouTube TV to be successful.

  • BartB

    Overpriced. T-Mo broke one of their almost hidden benefits : Price includes taxes and fees which draws many people to their service (including me). Waiting for them to revamp the program especially for T-Mo wireless customers, built in customer base, why alienate them with no extra benefits to try this program (not the $10 a month intro grabber)