T-Mobile’s 600MHz LTE network is now live

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Just months after winning a bunch of 600MHz spectrum in an FCC auction, T-Mobile has begin to deploy its new coverage.

T-Mobile announced today that its first 600MHz LTE sites are now live in Cheyenne, Wyoming. You can see a video of a phone call being completed over these 600MHz airwaves below.

In addition to lighting up its first 600MHz cell sites, T-Mobile today revealed other parts of the U.S. where it plans to go live with 600MHz coverage in 2017. They are:

  • Wyoming
  • Northwest Oregon
  • West Texas
  • Southwest Kansas
  • The Oklahoma panhandle
  • Western North Dakota
  • Maine
  • Coastal North Carolina
  • Central Pennsylvania
  • Central Virginia
  • Eastern Washington

There are no smartphones that currently support T-Mobile’s new 600MHz coverage, so customers will have to wait before they can try it out for themselves. T-Mo has said that it’ll have smartphones from Samsung and LG that support 600MHz coverage in Q4 2017.

T-Mobile won an average of 31MHz of 600MHz spectrum nationwide in the FCC’s auction earlier this year, and T-Mo says that this spectrum covers 100 percent of the U.S. and Puerto Rico. While some of this 600MHz spectrum will be used for 4G LTE coverage, T-Mobile also plans to use some of it for 5G.

Source: T-Mobile

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  • aglee89

    That may be the note 8 he has in his hand eh?

    • Joe

      No I don’t think so since it looks to be running stock android.

      • Zach Mauch

        I don’t think that really means that much as the dialer could be installed. The buttons on the other hand are definitely not. I think it is either a v30 or the Pixel 2. Hopefully it is the Pixel 2.

  • Guillermo Eduardo Ortega-ibarr

    Looks like lg v30

    • Zach Mauch

      Does LG use the stock dialer?

      • Guillermo Eduardo Ortega-ibarr

        No but lg will make next pixel 2 xl.. wish more then like lg v30 will have similar future

    • bkat11

      Pixel 2 XL…stock Android 8.0.1

      • mreveryphone

        The article said LG or Samsung…

        • Rob

          Pixel 2 XL has LG as the ODM.

        • mreveryphone

          But will tmo carry the Pixel 2? If not then this is not the phone they are referring to…

        • Rob

          T-Mobile is unpredictable so it’s anyone’s guess. Since it’s made by LG and T-Mobile loves Samsung and LG, it’s possible but I doubt it since they’ll have the V30.

        • mreveryphone

          Right…

      • Guillermo Eduardo Ortega-ibarr

        U rite but remember lg will make pixel 2 wish more then like lg v30 will have similar future

    • Jovian Fry

      the lg g6 already has lte band 66

      https://www.t-mobile.com/cell-phone/lg-g6

  • Mickey T

    It has to be some new phone coming out where they have to hide it. Otherwise why would they hide the phone like that.

  • dtam

    anyone call neville?

  • JaswinderSinghJammu

    That’s awesome. I can’t believe they did it so fast.

  • Zach Mauch

    I REALLY hope that phone is the Pixel XL 2.

    Yes, I know it wasn’t in the FCC leak, but the nexus 6 didn’t initially have band 12 either. It was added with an update.

    • bkat11

      I think you’re right…look at the bottom navigation buttons…looks LG to me! I’ll get it if it has the band 71 with the LG camera! SWEEEEETTTTT

  • Troy Wolfe

    Wait what? Cheyenne is first!
    Yes!

  • Sharti24

    Covers 100% of the US? Would love to see them actually do it

    • Andrew Singleton

      That’s literally what this article is.

    • Jason

      Getting really close. They are at 315 million today, out of a total population of 323 million. So thats 97.5% of Americans covered now. The projected year end with this announcement is 321 million pops. So thats 99.3%

  • Jason Caprio

    At the present time Verizon/AT&T have the edge in rural areas, however once this 600MHz gains momentum over the next few years, I am excited to see how things will play out. There will be stiff competition between Verizon/AT&T/T-Mobile. Sprint is going to die a slow death.

    The only thing that worries me is, if we have 3 top-quality carriers with nearly equal coverage, it could possibly turn into a Triopoly.

    “Three sellers, many buyers. Once again a three company market with considerable control over pricing and production. Examples include, GM, Chrysler and Ford in the 1970’s, Sony, Nintendo and Microsoft in the gaming industry and, General Mills, Post and Kellogg’s in the breakfast cereal sector.”

    • bkat11

      If that’s the Pixel 2 XL I’m saying goodbye to Samsung and hello to google

      • mreveryphone

        It says Lg and Samsung… Nothing about the Pixel…

        • bkat11

          Pixel XL is being made by LG

        • mreveryphone

          And you know that tmo will offer it in store???

        • bkat11

          No T-Mobile will not offer the Pixel 2 or Pixel 2 XL…you have to buy it from Google

        • mreveryphone

          Then this isn’t the LG phone they are referring to…

        • Rob

          We have no idea if T-Mobile will carry the Pixels at this point. We know Verizon doesn’t have an exclusive and that’s it.

          That said it’s probably going to be the V30 and Note 8 that support it. There has been talk about the Note 8 having 600MHz since April.

        • mreveryphone

          That’s what I’m thinking.

        • Rob

          It would make sense with the expected cost of these phones. “You want coverage all over the country and 4×4 MIMO for 1Gbps? For the low price of $1000, we have you covered when nobody else does!”

          It’s sickening really but that’s going to be how it is. Remember when AWS first hit bringing LTE and you had to fork over serious cash to get a device with it? I bought the S III thinking it would support LTE since AT&T had it – nope, they released a second S III just for LTE. Then band 12 came with no support (although this case had a cheap Samsung with it, the name is escaping me) and then band 66 which was only available on the flagship V20? It’s going to be just like that.

        • mreveryphone

          Yep…Smh

        • lomsha

          You don’t know that

        • bkat11

          Is that a serious statement?

  • Patrick McLaughlin

    what about people with phones like the s8? will we be left in the dust? or will tmobile continue to expand their other LTE Bands as well?

    • Sharti24

      Dust. Just like the S5

      • Patrick McLaughlin

        technically the s5 still gets LTE in the AWS band only. the question is, will Aws, PCS and 700 mhz continue to expand into other markets also

    • Jason

      It wont stop working. Tmo has spectrum in PCS, AWS, 700, and now 600. One doesnt replace the others. Its just more spectrum added to the pool.

      • Patrick McLaughlin

        so the others will expand in the same markets where 600 is going as well?

        • Jason

          In most areas where they create new coverage they do often expand PCS or AWS. There are a few areas I can think of where for now I think its only low band. Probably Montana, ND, WY now. All the new places they are launching in. But 700 will definitely be everywhere 600 is.

        • Patrick McLaughlin

          thanks

        • Sharti24

          No need for 700 and 600mhz on the same tower in rural areas. They travel about the same distance

        • Jason

          Theyre combining them. Its not the propogation driving the 600/700 bundling. Its the capacity. They have 5×5 max in the rural new coverage red state areas. 600 gives them another 20×20 in most places. That is a huge expansion for basically negligible costs for combined antennas.

        • Sharti24

          You dont need 20×20 600mhz in cow country. 5×5 does the job just fine

        • Phuq_Me

          bull. 5X5 is max of 37 Mbps and that’s if ONE person is using the tower.

        • John Doe

          The S8 will not get 600MHz it can’t.

        • Giovanni Gentile

          I said you that S8 and NOTE 8 will not support band 71!

    • Jovian Fry
  • mreveryphone

    Per the article…***T-Mo has said that it’ll have smartphones from Samsung and LG that support 600MHz coverage in Q4 2017.***

    Why are people saying they hope it’s the Pixel???

    • Jason

      Every phone Tmo offers will have 600 by next year so I wouldnt be too worried on the 2 they mention specifically

      • mreveryphone

        That’s understandable but we’re talking about this year…

    • jonzey231

      Just because they say they’ll have phones that support it by LG and Samsung doesn’t mean they’re the ONLY ones that will support it. Also, the Pixel wasn’t sold in their stores before and we have no indication that it will be this time around. So if the Pixel does support it, it wouldn’t be T-Mo’s place to say so.

      Plus LG is making the larger Pixel anyways, so technically it could still be true.

      • mreveryphone

        Or technically not true…

        • Todd

          Perhaps they are Project Fi users. Fi uses T-Mo and Sprint bands. First Pixel phones had all of the available T-Mo bands. Phones weren’t sold in T-Mo stores. T-Mo even had a promotion for people to bring their Pixel phones to T-Mobile for service. Project Fi hasn’t gone away so I would expect that the new Pixel will have the new T-Mo band support as well.

        • jonzey231

          Ehh, they don’t really look at Fi as a partnership though. That’d be like saying Tracfone devices should support all of VZW’s services.

  • Jason

    So the one big thing I took away from this is FINALLY on Northwestern ND (Williston)! They have been spectrum limited there until the 600 auction. Finally coverage in the heart of the Bakken. It was sad they couldnt compete for those oil workers because Tmo is a natural choice for value.

    • Sharti24

      ND is verizon territory

      • Jason

        For now! I visit northeastern MT just on the otherside of the Williston border and Tmo is filling in that entire area with LTE.

        • marque2

          For some reason Tmo won’t go into US Cellular territory in a big way. Large swaths of Midwest aren’t Tmo.

        • steveb944

          Likely not a priority competitor for them.

  • Philip

    What? My S8 cant do this?

    • Joseph Cathey

      No compatible modems weren’t out when the S8 was being manufactured.

      • Rob

        That’s not exactly true. The X16 in the Snapdragon 835 can support it, and in fact will be used in the Note 8 that will support it, it just couldn’t be certified until an active network was deployed. The FCC is strict when it comes to that.

        • Patrick McLaughlin

          tmopbile has already said that the Note 8 does not support band 71

    • Jovian Fry

      dude, chill

      the galaxy s8 has lte band 66, check the product specs

      idk why people are saying otherwise

      https://support.t-mobile.com/docs/DOC-34266

      https://www.t-mobile.com/cell-phone/samsung-galaxy-s8?color=midnightblack&memory=64gb

      • Ascertion

        Because B66 is a subset of Band 4. You’re looking for Band 71 for 600 Mhz, which currently no device is capable of.

        • Jovian Fry

          yeah… sorry, im an idiot! i cant believe that for the past year or so i thought lte band 66 was the new 600 mhz, just wow

          thank you for the clarification!

  • Philip

    Is this better than Band 12? Go further and penetrate buildings, elevators and toilets?

    • Jason

      Pretty close to the same, but they have a ton more 600 than 700. Like 4 times as much. So better capacity and speed.

    • Trevnerdio

      +1 on toilets…asking for a friend.

  • mreveryphone

    Could it be that tmo is rushing to get 600MHz deployed because the Note 8 will support it and they will activate it with a software update??? Just a thought…

    • Joseph Cathey

      The Note will probably just support it out of the box…

      • mreveryphone

        True.

      • Patrick McLaughlin

        nope. Note 8 Wont support Band 71

        • Giovanni Gentile

          Nope. Samsung galaxy s8 and Note 8 do not support Band 71!

        • Patrick McLaughlin

          i know that already

    • Patrick McLaughlin

      as of today, the note 8 DOES NOT have band 71. and wont

  • jonzey231

    Yeah, obviously a Note in that video. It’s between Sammy and LG and that’s clearly a Samsung screen beneath that screen lol.

  • Patrick McLaughlin

    I saw the fcc spec page. Odd thing was that band 71 was no where to be found listed.

  • GreenMonkeyPants

    “T-Mo has said that it’ll have smartphones from Samsung and LG that support 600MHz coverage in Q4 2017.”

    Does this mean the iPhone 8 will not support 600Mhz ?

    • Guillermo Eduardo Ortega-ibarr

      New iPhone won’t have 600Mhz

    • Rob

      Apple never supports a new band out of the gate, you’ll have to wait for their refresh release.

      • Trevnerdio

        …and then wait one past that, they’re always a cycle behind :)

        • Rob

          Yeah but 600MHz is pretty major, I’d bet that they don’t do that this time around, a lot of people would migrate to Android, especially areas that have crap coverage. T-Mobile hasn’t deployed Band 12 in my part of town and it was very noticeable today at the doctors office – 3mbps down, 4.5 up with 92ms latency. Downtown I rarely see less than 60/10.

        • Trevnerdio

          Band 12 isn’t for speed at all, only reliability. In the last week, I’ve had B12 show up in my condo in Tallahassee. 8 minutes down the road (downtown, in traffic) at my job, I get usually about 120/20 on B4. B12 is much better signal, but I get anywhere between about 10/1.5 and 23/10 haha

        • Sharti24

          Max speed of 5×5 band 12 is 37mbps

        • Rob

          I should have clarified a bit – I was indoors. Band 12 would have been faster. I didn’t test outside but I went from 2 bars to 5 and considering I only live about 3 miles from that office, it’s quite likely I was on the same tower I connect to at home (I live literally straight down the street).

        • Trevnerdio

          Oh I knew what you meant :) it’s just band 12 is slow all day, any day, anywhere hahaha

  • Tinger12

    Just remember, unless you live in one of the very small areas that T-Mobile can actually begin 600Mhz, the deployment is in 10 phases over the next 3 years. It also depends upon the relocation of many TV broadcast stations.

    This first rollout this year is very small and the first of the 10 phases, per the FCC, is not to be available until November of 2018, a full year from now.

    https://vimeo.com/213931264

    • slybacon

      Tmo said they can deploy now on nearly 1 million square miles of the USA. That’s nearly 1/3 of the 48 states.

      • Romdude

        And they have a good track record of deploying ahead of time. I wonder why Verizon and Sprint can’t deploy as fast?

        • slybacon

          That’s a great question that probably can’t be answered. Maybe it’s laziness, not good at planning, comfortable with their network, etc. no idea.

        • disqus_DFnvXJ7c9h

          Sprints been a bit of a clustterF*ck the past few years.. They put a lot of their spectrum into the hands of Clear for residential and business internet access via wireless. Clear didn’t do very well, and the tech they put their eggs into instead of LTE turned out to be a dud. So when softbank bought them they bought out Clear as well since they held all the spectrum. but by then Sprint was too far behind and it was too expensive to deploy a massive network. So they bought rights to VZW network in key areas. But now thats too expense so they are cutting back.

          In regards to VZW they are deploying all the time, they have a deployment schedule they keep up with. They had too much spectrum. so much so that almost all of the 700mhz 5×5 band 12 Tmobile got was from VZW. However VZW only sold the areas that they already had saturated themselves and hardly any remote areas where it would be really useful.

        • Romdude

          Thanks for the info, I always wondered what happened to them. They still can’t seem to put spectrum they have to use such that in my area, they didn’t buy any new spectrum at all even though they are the slowest and least reliable (I know cause I tried them).

      • Phuq_Me

        You’re assuming all states are the same size. Alaska is 660,000 square miles by itself. Not saying they are deploying there making the point 3 states can make up 1 million square miles. mos of the deployment over the next 18 months will be in rural areas. In some areas they could deploy but only using some of their spectrum.

        • Hilton GoWahoos Redskins

          Did you read his comment? He said the 48 states. That doesn’t include Alaska and Hawaii

        • Phuq_Me

          I can read. Obviously you can’t I was using an EXAMPLE. Do you know that?

        • Hilton GoWahoos Redskins

          Poorly chosen example. Chose the largest state, which happens to be one of the states not included in the statement you were replying to. Just kinda think more before you comment next time

        • slybacon

          No im not. I purposely excluded Alaska and Hawaii. That’s why I said 48 states. And they didn’t even say Alaska is getting anything this year.

        • slybacon

          @thepanttherlady Thanks for moderating rude and uneccassary comments!!

        • disqus_DFnvXJ7c9h

          Tmobile has mutual roaming rights with Alaska’s biggest mobile carrier. You have coverage in Alaska under that carrier much like you do in Canada and Mexico through those other carriers.

  • riverhorse

    So basically, 600mhz for now, only for rednecks, militias & hillbillies…
    Just kidding.

  • Alex Zapata

    Now when I get a new phone I can make a road trip.

    • eanfoso

      I won’t since I’m getting the new Nokia :(

      • Alex Zapata

        Nooooo, although it looks like a nice phone. Can’t wait to see what else they come up with.

        • eanfoso

          The Nokia 9 looks bigger but same camera, I’m dropping t mobile come December anyway haha

        • master94

          Youre dropping them right when they are getting better and almost reaching VZW? Seems like a weird time to drop a carrier.

        • eanfoso

          Yeah I am I’m mainly doing it for the pricing, I’ve been disappointed in their international plans outside north America so there’s no point in making it worth it. Plans outside here are cheaper anyway.

  • AS118

    Well, it’s not going to be California any time soon, so I guess I’m safe with my current Band 12 capable phone for now. I guess I’ll upgrade when 600mhz is prevalent and more phones support it.

  • illstplaya .

    Why are they launching in in areas where nobody lives? How about launching it in big cities that actually need it first then move on to the small cities

    • Sharti24

      They can only deploy this spectrum in areas that are clear with the Tv stations that sold it to them. It takes time for the stations to start broadcasting on another frequency

    • yankeesusa

      They are launching in areas that have the go ahead from broadcasters. And how do you know no one lives there? Are you the only one that matters lol

    • Phuq_Me

      Because in most places that spectrum is currently being used by broadcasters who have up until spring 2020 to move. DUH. common knowledge.

      • slybacon

        Be nice. It must not be “common” or everyone would know.

        • Phuq_Me

          It is common because this has not only been in the news A LOT for months it has in the news for YEARS. This auction has been i the works for 5 years and literally hundreds of articles maybe thousands have been written about it.

        • slybacon

          It doesn’t mean they are read by normal people. Only nerds read all this stuff.

    • Jason Caprio

      60,000+ people live in Cheyenne, WY and 500,000+ live in the entire state. Don’t say “nobody” lives there. Yes it’s not a lot of people, but just because it is less people, doesn’t mean they should be ignored. Verizon had those areas covered with LTE for years so it’s very welcome that T-Mobile is stepping it up.

      Furthermore, not everybody sits around at home and uses their mobile device. People actually travel sometimes.

      • eanfoso

        I’m just glad for global roaming, I live in America but other than major cities I don’t like it, heck let’s go visit Wyoming for it’s tourist attractions said no one ever. Maybe the state should step up their game and increase their nonexistent tourist spots, as you like to point out.

        • slybacon

          Wyoming has Yellowstone NP, one of the greatest NPs in the N. Also, Teton NP and Jackson skiing. You should get out more :)

        • eanfoso

          Well not that much of a national park kind of guy I like better ruins and human legacy places, I actually just came back from Europe and mexico hence why I was pointing out global roaming. Haha I’ve been to Breckinridge and aspen I dunno if I can betray colorado like that lol

        • slybacon

          To each their own!

        • eanfoso

          Exactly to each their own, plus, if yoou ever want to go to paris, every ass you see there is a nice ass, not gonna lie, that’s another incentive I have that keeps me going back!

        • slybacon

          I’m not a big fan of Europe. Too much terrorism.

        • eanfoso

          Yeah but people don’t go for the terrorism, they go for the sightseeing and women. People die here too from cops shooting the innocent to other acts of terrorism here in the usa like that one dude that killed the people at the movie theater so nah man when it’s our turn to die that’s it, it’s gonna happen no matter where we are, on the mean time live a good life, cheers to you man.

      • slybacon

        This is the nicest post I have ever seen from you, Mr Verizon! ;)

      • disqus_DFnvXJ7c9h

        No one says WY doesn’t deserve tmobile service. just that it’s been a low priority and band 4 or band 2 would have been basically useless there (VZW didn’t give up any band 12 there). So Tmobile had no choice but wait, fortunately they bought up a bunch of 600mhz there so it’ll come sooner than later.

    • Jason

      Many reasons. First Tmobile needed more than anything else a strong rural/ suburban network to really compete with the big 2. They already do fine in urban areas, and 600 is tailor made for easy rural expansion because of less towers being needed. Secondly, there is spectrum clearing that has to go on where there are TV channels left in the 600 mhz frequencies. It happens that most of the rural areas are already spectrum cleared because they didnt have interfering stations.

      • Janice and Rusty WIlliams

        You sound like you haven’t recently travelled to Wyoming.

        Well, in Wyoming, there are places on major highways you can scan the entire AM and FM radio dial without a broadcast.

        So Last week, there were towers with no antennas on the structure. Then, on a part of descolate highway, there were spools of orange conduit every 1/2 mile that would indicate fiber hasn’t even been trenched yet.

        So I applaud coverage in Wyoming’s only economic center of Cheyenne. T-Mobile has an interesting concept from a CEO who wears Pink but Sprint’s Free Unlimited network plan offers roaming and service for the roadways and works very well in areas T-Mobile promised coverage last year.

    • disqus_DFnvXJ7c9h

      Big cities actually don’t need it, they need high bandwidth Band 4 and Band 2. You can also get network density very high in large cities. So deploying a long range lower bandwidth frequency in large cities is second to building out the existing Band 4 and Band 2 (which they are).

      • Brandon

        Tmobile is definitely in it to win it

  • DILAW IDDAHLA

    I live close to Detroit which is a major city and service was amazingly fast on T-Mobile. Now, its slower and in the past 6 months it got even more slower. Everything still works and I have service, but its slower

    • Tim Smalley

      Most areas in the Detroit area that I’ve experienced are still around 30 Mbps, which is still plenty fast. I’ve seen a few slower areas, but they’re still pretty good. Some areas I pull over 60 Mbps.

      • disqus_DFnvXJ7c9h

        basically this. realistically speaking anything above 15mbps is actually very fast (1.5MB/s). Without a speedtest most people wouldn’t even notice it.

  • Jason

    End of 17 coverage shows full Charleston LTE coverage. (And a lot of the surrouding area). So moot point. They are expanding really fast really quick. The wide swath of area covered by the WV expansion this year is pretty impressive from a map standpoint when you look at the overlay. Theyre going to almost full coverage there.

    • disqus_DFnvXJ7c9h

      Tmobile’s network expansion the past 3 years has been nuts! They really have built it up like no ones business! ;)

  • BLACK FROSTING

    DOES THAT MAKE ANY DMN SENSE GOT THE COVERAGE BUT NO PHONES TO WORK ON THE DMN NEWTORK DMN THEY PUT THE CART WAY BEFORE THE FREAKING HORSE T FREAKING MOBILE GO SOMEWHERE AND KILL YOURSELVES

    • Joe

      Your dumb.

      • thepanttherlady

        *you’re

        • eanfoso

          Maybe he was talking about black’s dumb, I’ve got a dumb at school lol

        • Jason

          Let me get this straight. The original post was some ‘version’ of English (and I use version generously) in all caps, filled with misspellings, and what I can only guess is remedial ebonics style grammar from someone educated at a 3rd grade level, and you dont respond to that and you pick out a post in response to correct a minor your/you’re mistake? LOL Like I said a month ago, theres something odd about you. Youre a mod and you are on a Tmo fan site, but the only time we hear any of your meager thoughts are when people respond to attacks of the company. You seem to relish taking the side of these anti people. Why is that? Hits? Page views? All I know is youve been gone for 2 weeks. You come back and your first post is a ridiculous spelling correction directed to a response to a original post filled with bad spelling and grammar . Not even to mention the original post’s GO KILL YOURSELVES in all caps. Odd, odd, odd. I would try and figure out what the agenda or angle youre aiming for with this approach, but I dont care enough at this point to do the research. Maybe I will someday…

        • thepanttherlady

          I’m not here to be a grammar nazi but if you’re going to call someone else an idiot you should probably check your own post before hitting that post button. JS

        • Jason

          Oh wow, what a well thought out and complete response to my post. LOL Suffice it to say, you are not a moderator in the traditional sense and Ive watched you for long enough. You dont mod abusive posts, you dont try to encourage any decorum. In fact you NEVER respond to posts from anti people like this who are the most abusive. Your replies are always directed at people who respond to these original posts which in normal forums would be moderated. So yeah, what do I really think? I think you think the anti people add hits to your site. Im guessing the motivation for this non-moderation moderation is the oldest motivation in human history. MONEY honey. If it bleeds it leads right? Need to gin up some abusive anti posts in there to keeps things lively and keep those page views up? The problem with you is not necessarily that you do this, we all have to eat. Its that you’re not smart enough to do it transparently, so you establish patterns like this which everybody can see. Now if I were to do it, you would never even know I was doing it. Id quietly keep the abusive anti posts, but Id throw in a few reassurances that you are infact really a mod

      • BLACK FROSTING

        HEY I DON’T REALLY CARE ABOUT MOBILE T AND WHAT THE NELL THEY DO I’M STICKING WITH THE BEST VERIZON WIRELESS

        • slybacon

          Why are you wasting your time talking about T-Mobile if you don’t care and aren’t jealous?

        • BLACK FROSTING

          T MOBILE DOESN’T HAVE THE RIGHT LEADERSHIP NOR THE RESOURCES TO EVER HAVE THE LEAD OVER VERIZON

        • slybacon

          Bahahaha. You’re living in the blackness. You don’t even know who the Verizon leaders are. They hide in the blackness too.

        • BLACK FROSTING

          IF THEY WANT TO GET IN THE RUNNING AGAINST VZW THEY NEED TOSTART PUTTING UP MORE TOWERS BECAUSE T MOBILE IS NOT GETTING THERE BY JUST BUYING UP UNUSED BANDWITHS AT FCC AUCTIONS

        • slybacon

          The bandwidths were used, and most are still being used. You think Tmo’s coverage is upposed to change overnight after the auction? I’m on a road trip in Idaho right now in Mackey, ID and my coverage has matched Verizon’s for the last 230 miles of driving. And Friday night I was camping at Payson Lakes Utah and my friend’s Verizon iPhone didn’t have service and I had one dot of LTE. Verizon claims to be better, but in Utah and Idaho, it’s not.

        • disqus_DFnvXJ7c9h

          Eh, VZW is grossly over-rated. Speaking from experience the coverage between the two even when traveling is extremely similar these days and it’s still improving. You really have no idea what your talking about.

        • BLACK FROSTING

          I HAVE FIRST HAND KNOWLEDGE I AM ON VERIZON

        • kanakamaoli

          Look at Verizons new plans. Their more expensive and limiting video streaming to 480p. Unless, you pay more?Heck,even with that it tops out at only 720p. Why even sell phones with quad HD displays,full HD displays, etc if your network isn’t capable of supporting it?

        • PhantomOps

          Obviously you haven’t bothered to read Open Signal’s August 2017 report (opensignal.com). They do a report every six months. In the past VZW was the clear winner. However, the most recent report has TMO clearly ahead. As a VZW customer, I was totally surprised when I read the report and looked at their coverage map. Then I found I could get two lines with TMO Unlimited 55+ for $60 TOTAL, including fees and taxes. VZW wants $130 PLUS fees and taxes now for their basic GoUnlimited, so basically $140. The icing on the cake was both of my VZW phones work on TMO’s network. Was an easy switch and the coverage, for me, hasn’t missed a beat. Of course your coverage may vary depending on where you live and travel. But saving $80 a month is fantastic. I was with VZW for years, but no more. It’s just not that much better to warrant paying an additional $80 per month.

        • sandra

          Really? Im on Verizon and while they do have coverage most places i go where i live in the mountains their internet sucks. Its so slow its unusable in places where it used to be good. Mostly since they gave back unlimited and I think it broke the network. I also have T-mobile and their service has improved very much around here and I usually have much better internet speeds and as soon as it gets a bit better with coverage I will say good bye to Verizon finally.

    • slybacon

      So, should they wait 2 years to deploy it like Verizon did with 700mhz (2008 to 2010)?

    • kanakamaoli

      It’s not like T-Mobile only has 600mhz spectrum for their whole network dude. Smh

  • francob911 .

    OK 700mhz is band 12 … 600mhz is band 71 … Does anyone how how to check what bands it has before buying??? For example S7 edge vs V20 and Note 8 vs V30

    • eanfoso

      The box says the bands the handset supports.

    • Corey Jalette

      Once whatever phone you want is announced and the specs are released, you can find them all over online. Or if tmobile has it listed under the phone options online then you can check the specs there too, and see which bands it has.

    • disqus_DFnvXJ7c9h

      I don’t think any phones currently support 600mhz band 71. that was TV until this year, We will probably see 600mhz band 71 phones by end of year according to the Tmobile CTO

    • steveb944

      V30 and Note 8 will likely be the first.

  • Joe

    Like Jason said they will start having coverage there end of 17. The reason they took so long to come in WV is because they never had low band spectrum in that state till 600 mhz and it would not make sence to cover the state with mid band spectrum since the state has a very low population. Also its a harder state to deploy equipment in certain parts because of the quiet zone.

  • john

    I find it funny that all this is going on. The CEO is doing slow cooker sundays and all this other stuff and doesn’t even care after being contacted by contractors that built these sites to go on air aren’t getting paid for there work.I know numerous contractors that built the 700mhz project in the new york metro are for them that haven gotten paid. This guy and others at TMO have done absolutely nothing to help them get paid for the efforts. I wouldn’t give them a penny and if your doing work for them be careful. There is one vendor out there that owes over 150 companies money and T-Mobile will not help in any way for them to collect. A few companies lost everything. Thanks for nothing TMO.

    • slybacon

      They should stop doing free work for Tmo if they really aren’t getting paid. Business 101.

      • john

        Unfortuately, there was no option because it was spread over a course of a few years that all just added up and then payments just stopped completely. And in this industry and with 45-90 day pay nets money get get very high in that time. A few contractors are out of business. Regardless of the situation TMO should be able to help out for the people who have done the right thing by them and have proof of al work performed. To just blow it off and not even care just isn’t right. And if I were sprint I wouldn’t want to be bothered with them either.

    • Clifton K. Morris

      Right. Today, there’s someone selling their T-Mobile stores in mountain areas. It was very strange to come across that ad on Craigslist! They were asking for $150k per store.

      But as for this new service, I was traveling across Wyoming last week. The towers appears to be built however, they didn’t have antennas on the structure. To complicate things further, in the more remote areas, there were spools of what’s looked like fiber conduit every quarter mile of highway in the median. It looked abandoned. If I had to put two-and-two together, it looked like T-Mobile didn’t even have trenches dug for the fiber to connect to the towers yet.

      So issuing a marketing press release about service that is not launched is very pre-emptive. It’s like writing a check for a million dollars when there’s only a few bucks in the bank account. The person cashing it thinks their account looks great until it bounces..!

      • disqus_DFnvXJ7c9h

        Tmobile doesn’t generally run their own fiber (they lease backbone connections). They don’t even own the towers just the equipment on the towers (they lease access to the towers).

        Additionally 600mhz requires new phones much like Band 12 did a few years back. No new phones support it yet anyway.

        • Andrew Addison

          Sorry, but T-Mobile-MetroPCS has their own towers/nationwide network. They are the only people in USA to have built out their own network/bought new equipment. What are you talking about??

        • disqus_DFnvXJ7c9h

          They own the equipment on the tower, but not the tower itself or the land it’s sitting on. Thats almost always owned by companies that do nothing but that and lease space on the tower to providers.

        • Andrew Addison

          That is a lie. T-Mobile-MetroPCS has their own Towers/Equipment. What are you smoking on? They were the ones to have built out their own Towers/Equipments right from Scratch. Remember? You OBVIOUSLY do not know too much about T-Mobile-MetroPCS network. They have their own Towers. Verizon, AT&T and Sprint are the only ones that do not fully own their own Towers/network. T-Mobile-MetroPCS has full nationwide network of their own as well as towers/equipment. They may roam a little bit in other areas on other peoples towers, but T-Mobile-MetroPCS as an whole own all of their own Towers/Equipment. Try again. You seem like a lost person that knows nothing about T-Mobile-MetroPCS.

        • Andrew Addison

          I’m sorry, I was right all along, T-Mobile-MetroPCS Nation had their own Towers/Network. Their network is 100 Native nationwide coverage, while Verizon/AT&T/Sprint does not have their own network/services period. So therefore your information was incorrect. T-Mobile-MetroPCS is the only carrier to have 1000% native network/towers/coverage.

        • Clifton K. Morris

          Yes, this is well known…

    • disqus_DFnvXJ7c9h

      You’re simplifying a very complicated process. Tmobile probably subcontracts out the work or hires someone else that does it. I doubt they aren’t paying their own reps. But I wouldn’t be surprised if their contracted work out to company that is being shady with their own employees. Big corporations have literally thousands of systems in place to handle employee payments and packages. Seems unlikely someone wouldn’t be able to get paid.

  • master94

    600 mhz was bought to expand into these middle of nowhere areas. Its why rural markets will get it before urban.

  • Clifton K. Morris

    The problem with T-Mobile is that they sometimes build stores where there isn’t much coverage. For example, I needed to pay a T-Mobile bill and went to a T-Mobile Company-owned store. Strangely, there was no coverage at that “Green Valley Ranch” location. I had to go across the parking lot to WalMart and connect to WiFi to make a call which wasn’t very convenient.

    After I paid the bill, I asked the store rep what they do. The Assistant Manager said “I took a picture of all the returns and posted it on twitter to CEO John Legere”. I was baffled at that.

    I switched to Sprint who roams on Verizon for no extra price. The bonus is that Sprint has a promo rateplan which includes unlimited data, hotspot tethering and roaming on verizon anywhere in the US… places where T-Mobile doesn’t have service today.

    So basically on T-Mobile, you’d have to buy a phone (or make monthly payments) plus the rateplan price to make calls in areas where Sprint’s “Free Unlimited” rateplan works everywhere and is the best value. My bill last month was $6.30 in taxes and fees for Unlimited service.

    The only catch is that this promo Sprint Rateplan (called “Free Unlimited”) is only available online, not in the stores, and you need a iPhone that is compatible with Sprint and Verizon Service. People with recent model T-Mobile Iphones can’t get the Free Unlimited promotion because they use the cheaper intel chips (not Qualcomm). T-Mobile iPhones are not compatible with sprint or Verizon’s network. Sprint also allows an upgrade to an iphone 7 after a few months and keep the Promo pricing! It’s a great deal, just do a google search for it.

    • Sharti24

      What zip are you in that sprint gets coverage and tmobile doesnt?

      • Clifton K. Morris

        Haha. If Randy only knew..

    • disqus_DFnvXJ7c9h

      Are you sure you aren’t on a 2 year contract with the phone but on a 1 year promo service plan that expires and jumps up by 100%+? Then your stuck either paying more monthly for the service plan or cancelling and paying out full price on the phone(s). Thats been Sprints tactic for the past 2 years.

      Also Sprint doesn’t allow existing customers to take advantage of new promos. I can’t stand that and for that reason alone I’m not interested in Sprint.

      Tmobile’s service is fantastic and has just been improving every year. I’ve also been in areas where Tmobile has service and VZW doesn’t so it’s all dependent on location.

      • Clifton K. Morris

        Nope, Sprint doesn’t pay a salesperson, and I get a year free service by ordering a SIM card.

        • disqus_DFnvXJ7c9h

          you don’t understand. for some time now sprints promo’s only lasted for customers for up to 1 year. meaning the price you paid was for 12 months then it went up to a much higher regular price. A lot of people are unaware of this because verizon, tmobile, and att don’t do this.

        • disqus_DFnvXJ7c9h

          For example on their current promo the fine print says: “Savings until 10/31/18; then $60/mo. for line 1, $40/mo. for line 2 and $30/mo./line for lines 3-5”

    • Drewski Leslie

      Sprint works everywhere as in what way? Does it cover throughout every single building within each city throughout your whole state or do you mean that it covers only the areas that you so happened to have bern lucky to get services out in that time? Sorry, but your information is incorrect my Dear Friend. Sprint does not get excellent services everywhere throughout the whole USA.

    • Allen Alberto Enriquez

      Wow your right. I saw the ad on YouTube I thought it was too good to be true. Now I see it’s really happening. It says it ends 9/2018 still a unbelievable deal. I just wonder how it stands against Xfinity coverage?

      • Clifton K. Morris

        Oddly, it’s still available tonight…

  • disqus_DFnvXJ7c9h

    no offense but a population of 50k is actually a pretty small city, borderline town.

  • disqus_DFnvXJ7c9h

    ya but do you really need more than 20mbps? That’s like 2MB/S.. You can stream HD 1080p video and run navigation and music at HQ streaming + whatever else you want without much issue. not saying more isn’t nice, just that do you even notice your on Band12 without checking because of the slower speeds?

    • Trevnerdio

      The only thing I too much notice it on is app downloads…but even sometimes with YouTube videos, because Band 12 can get quite slow (like 10mbps or less)

  • BLACK FROSTING

    THEY WANTS TO BE #2 BUT DON’T DO THE HARD WORK THAT VZW DID TO GET TO BE #1

    • Romdude

      Verizon was Bell Atlantic, remember when they broke up them up into the baby Bells? How can you be there from the beginning if you are semi new to the market?

      • izick

        Easy answer, that was almost decades ago the GTE Mobile was operating. Phones, available spectrum, and the technologies behind them have shifted significantly. So, on a 4G/LTE 5G/LTE front, T-Mobile is nimble and just as capable at this point. Sprint is also sitting on licenses, but it’s still trying to figure out how to use it effectively, since it’s 4x less effective at long range coverage, but 4x more effective at delivering data speeds.

        • Romdude

          But he said the same hard work as Verizon, Verizon inherited its network as one of the baby bells. Inheriting something is not hard work.

    • moonoverparma

      What hard work did Verizon do that T-Mobile isn’t?

  • Danger_Citizen

    I’m sorry but where do you get your information from? It was said and confirmed a long time ago that the GALAXY S8 AND LG G6 HAVE B66. I can even disable said band on the S8+. If you want to confirm google search or visit a Tmo store and punch in *#2263# into a Galaxy S8 and goto LTE band preference, press on next page twice to see proof.

    • SZL

      600mhz is band 71 not band 66. Band 66 is for AWS 3. No phones for band 71 are commercially available yet.

      • Danger_Citizen

        ……….Thank you. Ok, got 66 and 600 twisted.

      • Romdude

        Thanks for the info, I always appreciate factual unemotional answers, which is what we normally get in the discussion threads.

      • Allen Alberto Enriquez

        Thanks for facts I wanted to know really bad because I want to get another phone soon. By any chance do you know if Motorola Z2 Force will have that 71? I don’t see it anywhere so I think it’s not.

        • SZL

          I don’t believe so. According to T-mobile, the first phones to support the new band will be out later in the year.

  • disqus_DFnvXJ7c9h

    If you have coverage in your area and don’t need more you can keep using whatever phone you want. Tmobile isn’t turning off Band 2 or Band 4 ever its their most saturated network and depoyed everywhere. It sucks that we can’t just enjoy the new 600mhz band without a new phone but in their defense it’s been used for TV all these years, why would wireless phone makers ever have included it?

    • Bklynman

      True,but most people will think they missing out on something,I just want to get new phone for security reasons. So that’s why I will not spend no more than $125-$250. for either unlock,or midrange Tmobile phone, Metro,or Family mobile phone,bring it to phone store to unlocked it.I was looking at Asus phones but the reviews on them are so-so. No one has answer this question that works for Tmobile,what is Tmobile doing with all the return phones from the Jump program/just people changing there minds about them. when go on Tmo site,look at there refur./used phone sec. not much is there.

  • Sharti24

    What a joke. No 2017 flagship phone will support 600mhz

    • Allen Alberto Enriquez

      Agree it’s so disappointing Id hope at least Motorola Z2 Force, Samsung or LG or maybe Apple by a gamble chance. Well at least it’s not available in California yet so we’ll see.

    • netanil

      LG V30 will. It will include B71.
      Although we’re still waiting to hear exactly when it will be released in the States.

  • disqus_DFnvXJ7c9h

    no worries, all good.

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