T-Mobile expanding 5G network to new cities like San Francisco and Sacramento

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T-Mobile’s 5G network is growing again.

T-Mo today confirmed that its 5G service is now live in San Francisco and Sacramento, CA. What’s more, it’ll be launching soon in Orlando and Tampa, FL.

These cities are gaining access to T-Mobile’s low-band 5G network, which uses 600MHz spectrum. T-Mo sells several devices that are compatible with its low-band 5G, including the OnePlus 7T Pro 5G McLaren, OnePlus 8 5G, Galaxy S20 5G, Galaxy S20+ 5G, Galaxy S20 Ultra 5G, Galaxy Note 10+ 5G, and LG V60 ThinQ 5G.

With this expansion, T-Mobile’s low-band 5G network covers nearly 6,000 cities and towns and more than 225 million people. To compare, when T-Mo launched its low-band 5G network back in December, it covered more than 5,000 cities and towns and 200 million people.

Do you have access to T-Mobile 5G? If so, how has it been treating you lately?

Source: T-Mobile

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  • Tale 85

    Decided to bite the bullet and get “5G Ready” with a T-Mobile LG V60 5G. I figured it would be a while before 5G made it to my area. Surprise! It’s all over the place here. Who would think Panama City Florida would be cranking 5G. Speeds for download range from 90mbps to 200mbps. Upload could use some help but we’re getting there.

    • Mike

      That is good to have those speeds, of course TMobile upgraded Panama city after Hurricane Michael, so those speeds have been in place a while. Can’t wait till they improve west of you here in Destin.

      • Tale 85

        I’m in Callaway, they just upgraded this area a couple months ago. Speed before that we’re in the 80’s max. I was stuck on Band 66 for years. 71 hit here in about February.

  • Mike Thaler

    The percentage of TM users that have 5G capable phones has to be under 5%. There is nothing even my 3 y.o. phone couldn’t do for me. The only slight advantage my new phone has it responds quicker to various commands.

    • slybacon

      That percentage will change with the next iPhone release this fall.

      • Shaun Michalak

        Nope.. The percentage will change when they get phones that do not cost $800 or more..

        Interesting enough, I just looked up the stats on cell phones, and which are used the most.. If you go to statista, they somehow claim that 45% of all cell phones used are Iphones.. Yet, if you look at statcounter, which gives real world info of what people actually use, almost 71% of all actual cell phone users use Android phones.. This makes me think that they are going off of sales, and not actual users.. My guess would be that either they sell more I-phones because they break more, or that android users are more likely to keep their longer..

        • slybacon

          If 71% are android, then they must be going off of sales cause about 10% of the people I know use Android (maybe I just choose not to associate with people with green text bubbles!!!). iPhones outlast the android counterparts (my parent’s iPhones were 4 and 5 years old, but they just upgraded to the 2020 SE), but iPhone users are much more likely to upgrade to the latest device it seems. And willing to pay the money.

        • marque2

          For TMobile – it is not so much the phone lasting – it has to do with TMobile always adding bands. I got a new Android phone for 700mhz and another for 600mhz.

          Starting about last year Android phone makers have been putting on more antennas making the phones more universal. LG still makes 4+ versions of their phones for their US phones though. Apple, I believe had two – one for AT&T / TMobile and another for Sprint/Verizon. Note though that Apple seemed to be a year behind in adding new TMobile bands.

        • Shaun Michalak

          True, but the band thing has only been a recent thing.. For a lot of years, they stayed with the same bands that they used.. Mainly 2 and 4.. Even when 700 came out, they did not get any and had to buy some off of other companies to get some when they did.. I think that now that they have the 600mhz, and the 2.5 ghz, with the exception of mmwave, I do not see that big of a difference in their frequencies changing much for years to come.. They basically now have everything that they need to put up a decent network, and are not longer going to have to play catch up trying to get more frequency to put up a decent network.. Now they just have to get it all installed.

        • Shaun Michalak

          statcounter uses real work info by who is actually using the device.. They can tell if it is a newer OS, or an older one, etc. So they are real world usage numbers, and do not go off of sales, where the one that said that it was around half, they talked a lot about actual sales,

          I read an article about the phones, and they said different things about the 2 OS’s.. Android users were more frugal with their money, where Apple users were more likely to spend, and upgrade more often.. Apple users are more likely to be vane (their words, not mine) because they liked attention more, and took more selfies.. They also said that Apple users were more likely to have more “good friends”.. I will leave that one alone considering the comment about being vane right before that, which can work with, or against that comment.

          either way, I think I will trust real work stats that show actual usage over a sales list any day..

  • Mike

    Well guess Tmobile is filling in the holes for its LTE network, but are calling it 5g. If your stuck in a rural area, 600mhz will be all youll see for a long time. 5 wide of 600mhz will not give you high speed if your on the fringe of any tower. So enjoy the signal with LTE type speeds.
    Crestview FL is a prime example of how towers are stretched far apart.

    • Thats what cellspots are for in your home.

      • shawn murray

        or wifi calling

        • marque2

          TMobile will give you a cell spot for $25 if you need it in your home. I use one.

    • Joe

      They have enough 600 mhz for I think a 10×10 in most of the country and even more in some parts.

      • Glenn Gore

        T-Mobile owns 40 Mhz of 600 here, and the 5G data rate is 12 Mbps on 5G and 180 Mbps on LTE+ on the same site, 3 miles away, so it depends on what they have activated and allocated to the various technologies on the individual sites. Right now, 5G is not a high priority with such a limited quantity of 5G-capable devices, but that will change as people’s contracts run out and 5G becomes a standard feature on phones.

        • Shaun Michalak

          What would this have to do with contracts?? Unless you mean that people pay off their phones.. But I consider that paying off debt, not a contract, like with a plan..

          I think the reason that the speeds are so high on 4G right now is because of all the extra bandwidth that they got from other companies, which would make sense sense they would put all that bandwidth to use under 4G only, since there is only a limited number of people that have 5G phones..

        • Glenn Gore

          A lot of people only get a new phone when their 2-yr contract runs out, when they might get it for free or at a reduced cost, or if they are on an annual or 2-yr upgrade plan. 5G will soon become a standard included feature on all phones, which will get more devices out in the world and customers demanding access and service.

        • marque2

          TMobile doesn’t really have “contracts” they were the first to stop bundling the phone with the service.

          However to your point TMobile does finance the phones and one typically pays over two years. I agree after the payments end lots of folks will look for a new phone.

          Also in about six months there will be many cheaper options not just S20+ for the full deal and a slightly cheaper V60 for “kindof 5g”

        • Glenn Gore

          That’s what I was on with my LG V30, a 2-yr finance plan and I could not get a new phone until that was paid off without a VERY significant financial penalty. A lot of people buy phones this way and the end result is like having a 2-year contract, because essentially, you do. It’s a great way of getting the latest top device without having to shell out $1000+ all at once.

        • Shaun Michalak

          I am more the type that will not buy a phone unless i have the money in cash to pay for it, so i really never dealt with any kind of financing on a phone.. In my opinion, it is too easy to get into trouble when you start owing money on stuff.

        • marque2

          If you buy outside of TMobile it makes sense to pay cash.

          Inside TMobile – the interest is built into the price and they don’t give a discount for paying cash up front. (e.g. A phone they list for $480 is $20 a month, not $20!plus interest) So agreed psychologically it may he better to pay up front but fiscally it makes sense to just make the monthly payments.

        • Shaun Michalak

          I am now with their metro end, but when I was with T-Mobile, I actually bought the phones from walmart instead of directly through T-Mobile.. Unless they changed things, when I did have them, The Walmart Family phones were just T-Mobile phones put into a Walmart Family labeled box.. They even said T-Mobile as they booted up.. The difference.. Something like 30% cheaper in price for the same exact phone. Even with Metro, it is cheaper to buy a phone off of ebay, still new in the box, then it is to buy them from the store, even after discounts.. So that is why I always buy phones cash.. Well, that , and I hate owing people or bills…

        • marque2

          I’m mixed. Sometimes TMobile has a special deal and I will buy from them. Other times I go eBay or to a direct seller like Moto. Doing this, though I have to be careful my model is actually a TMobile model or that the phone supports all the bands.

          You found a pretty clever way to save a few bucks!

        • Shaun Michalak

          Yea.. I have found times that the unlocked versions did not have all the bands.. For example, when the LG K30?? came out, the T-Mobile version had band 71 support, but the unlocked amazon version did not support band 71, only 2, 4, 12, and 66..

          Personally, I do not mind putting the money into a phone, if I know I will get my moneys worth.. But I see no reason in putting in tons of money into a phone just to say that I have it.. Especially these days, where new bands are popping up left and right, and you can not keep the same phone for 3 years and still have full access to the network.. Just look at the last 2 years.. Added band 71, MMwave, 5G, more frequencies for MMwave, Bands 25 and 41, etc.. The second you buy a new phone, they add something new to the mix and you are back to square one..

        • marque2

          Financial penalty? They let you pay off the phone any time. I did it with one of the family phones. Had a few extra bucks – paid it off (Samsung S7). Not sure where you get the idea there is a penalty.

          For V30 I bought it a year late and it was only $250. If you aren’t in the market for 5g V30 is the best deal out there. Supports all TMobile bands and coats only $250 or less for TMobile model. Reconditioned is as low as $70.

        • Glenn Gore

          I’m going to cut this off here because the subject of the article is 5G network expansion, not phones. Suffice it to say that I am very happy with my OnePlus McLaren, it is perhaps the best Android phone I have ever owned and both OnePlus and T-Mobile have been providing lots of updates for it to keep it current and able to use the 5G network at its full capability where it is available.

          Where that network is available in my state has not been expanded to any great degree since its launch in December. it is great that they are expanding it to these new cities but I expect them to add new territory to where the network was first launched as well. The 5G network launched with huge holes and gaps around the country, including places where Band 71 had already been launched, so hopefully those gaps will be filled in as time goes along. They have not done much of that yet.

        • marque2

          It is hard to discuss 5g without discussing phones as well.

    • DominiMMIV

      5G is a technology not a speed.

      • marque2

        Yes, but it was oversold to us a speed – and if you see any articles they don’t talk about the transform algorithms for transmission, they talk about current and future speed.

        So please forgive some of us if we are mildly disappointed.

    • bkat11

      Someone sounds sour grapes

  • bk_89

    I was getting the 5G icon on my V60 ThinQ while on Band 2/25 although it’s only on Band 71 right now which is also in my area but it disappeared about a week ago and it has yet to come back.

  • Mike Thaler

    Why would someone need over 100Mbps on a cell phone where a home system w. that capacity will give you the ability to stream a 4K movie while aa couple others are gaming at same time etc.?

    • Glenn Gore

      You don’t right now, but you will when there are a lot more devices and users trying to do that very thing as more and more 5G-capable devices get into customers’ hands. Personally, I think worrying about 4k or 8k on a cellphone screen is ridiculous, I can’t see the benefit or difference from HD, but to each his own in that regard.

      • marque2

        Even on 15.6″ laplops the difference between 1080p and 4k is trivial. I highly doubt anyone can see the difference on a phone.

  • Mike Taylor

    I might of missed it somewhere, but what bands does Sprints 5G network use?

    • Jay Holm

      2.5ghz, Band 41.

      • Mike Taylor

        Thank you both for the info. Greatly appreciated.

    • Shaun Michalak

      Sprint only has 3 bands to use.. One of which is 800mhz, which they have almost none off, so they really do not use it.. The other is a limited amount of band 25 (1900 mhz just like band 2), so there is no way for them to split that off into 5G because of how little of it they have, and still have 4G service.. The last is band 41, which in most places, was never installed for 4G service, and that is the only one that was used for 5G through Sprint.

  • Paul

    A lot of great comments! Don’t forget about what 5G will bring besides speeds and capacity. New companies and jobs (innovation) not to mention wireless home internet and wireless cable. Game changer!!