Does Sprint CEO Dan Hesse Want To Work On A Deal With T-Mobile?

I just caught wind of a Forbes article that spoke with Sprint CEO Dan Hesse following Sprint’s fourth-quarter earnings call as saying the end of the AT&T/T-Mobile merger talks “…means many more options for Sprint than we would have had if the merger had gone through.” Hesse follows up that statement by saying that T-Mobile’s spectrum was back on “the table,” though he wouldn’t elaborate any more beyond that.

Analysts have long suggested a Sprint/T-Mobile network sharing agreement as such a move would give T-Mobile access to a 4G/LTE network while giving Sprint more spectrum and capacity, possibly distancing themselves from their Clearwire relationship.

T-Mobile has also said it continues to look at small scale deals along with CEO Philip Humm telling Forbes back in January T-Mobile will show its LTE strategy the end of March. While we don’t believe Sprint is any kind of financial position to even consider a full-scale purchase of T-Mobile, a network sharing agreement is perhaps more plausible and could benefit both companies considerably.


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  • Anonymous

    Even if they were in a financial position, Sprint would be met with the same opposition as the AT&T/T-Mobile merger.

    • Vim

      Not necessarily.  An argument can be made that having 3 strong, healthy carriers is better than having 2 strong, healthy carriers, and 2 weak, sickly carriers.

    • ArenaTech

      There are differences, first and foremost being GSM versus CDMA.  The AT&T/T-Mobile merger would have effectively created exactly one company (of decent size) that provides service for the phones that the rest of the world uses.  Any time there are only a handful of major players in an industry, there will be anti-trust concerns.  The AT&T/T-Mobile merger would have also basically monopolized the GSM infrastructure in the United States.  

      Short version:  There would be regulatory concern, but not nearly as much as the AT&T/T-Mobile proposed merger.

  • Jay

    I would take ATT over Sprint anyday. I live in NYC and Sprint service even sucks here. 

    • Guest

      ha! AT&T sucks in NYC. Drop call time! bubblegum patched network and most are in a city that size. Verizon and T-Mobile are the only ones that work okay. Verizon is a bit better though… well, much better.

      • Anonymous

        Haha! Try again! I have att and I live in NYC! I hardly get any drop calls here. Specially their hspa+ is fast as well.. now when I had T-Mobile they were the worse. Always had dropped calls and shitty speeds. U know if I were u, I would use att for a month and you’ll see for yourself that att really don’t expirience bad service. Im oon it right now and I can tell u that for a fact. Sprint sucks bad when it comes to speeds and their coverage ain’t really great compare to att. So att all the way.

        • I am a megagenius

          Haha!  You both are probably right considering NYC is more than 4 blocks long…

        • Tazy254

          Haha you all suck

        •  Haha!  this thread no longer makes sense…..  lol

        • Dominique

           When Cnet did a test of call quality, data speeds, and dropped calls throughout NY they found AT&T to be the worst in most locations.  Verizon was by far the best with T-mobile a distant second.

        • HeLLo

          HAHA! Try again! NYC and AT&T have something in common their both horrible.

  • Deon Davis

    This could be the kind of LTE angle the T-mo needs. Imagine LTE back up with hspa 42/84 network! Nobody could compete with that kind of synergy!

    •  now THAT would be Awesome!  HSPA+ is so much a better fall back than CDMA for Verizon.

    • WillieFDiaz

      If TMobile turns down a deal like this, then they had no thought of ever providing LTE or continuing in the market. HSPA is fantastic, and it will get TMobile very far, but ultimately they need HSPA+Evolution AND LTE. It will bring costs down over time and provide spectral efficiency for the limits they currently have. Offers them flexibility for network deployment, sharing, and plan modification.

  • JQuest

    I’m down with that.. Sharing is caring after all… 

  • Anonymous

    perhaps the US version of EverythingEverywhere in the UK, except for data only. LTE from Sprint’s 800Mhz spectrum would be great

  • WiWavelength

    Coincidentally enough, I wrote an article published today on the compatibility of Sprint and T-Mobile PCS 1900 MHz spectrum for a shared LTE network.


  • Now sharing LTE with Sprint could be a really great deal.  Hmmmm, lets see what happens.

  • Vim

    Sprint’s financial position is extremely precarious.  Between their LTE transition and their iPhone contract, they’re bleeding cash bad.  Financially speaking, this last quarter was their worst in 3 years. They recorded a $1.3 billion loss, after having only lost $300 million the previous quarter.  There is no way in hell Sprint could scrounge up the cash to purchase T-Mobile, even if they had the desire, and they don’t thanks to how badly bungled the Nextel acquisition was.

    • Anonymous

      Yes, Sprint needs additional financing to complete its Network Vision build out.  And that is one reason why an infusion of spectrum and cash from T-Mobile as part of an LTE network sharing agreement could be great for both carriers, could help both do what neither carrier can likely accomplish alone.


      • Vim

        In the short term to medium term this is extremely unlikely.  Their existing networks are totally incompatible and neither company has much cash to invest.  Once both have transitioned to LTE, consolidation via a merger would become more feasible. 

        • Vim

          Whoops, I’d delete my reply above if I could.  I misunderstood WiWavelength’s point.  What I should have said is that yes, there is room for the two companies to work together on an LTE build-out. 

  • Anonymous

    I think if T-Mobile could offer HSPA+ at 1700/2100, LTE at 800/1900 MHz (Sprint) and at 2.5 GHz (Clearwire) they could have something 

  • Commander_Fury

    After the Sprint Nextel debacle I can’t see this being a good thing . Besides that AT&T would dish out some mammoth payback . 

  • Maiercaleb

    hopefully t-mobile would change to true unlimited plans if this does happen, like sprint, or i would switch to sprint if they had a better network from sharing and a better phone line. T-mobile always gets the cheapest version of any new high tech smart phone.

    • Dominique

       How so?  The only cheaper version of a phone that they have is the Lumia 710 and none of the other Lumia’s are available on any other carrier right now, so can you give any examples?

      • Phozfate

         i think he more pointing out the past few high end phones we have are lower end them similar counterparts on other carriers…. evo3d/sensation …. quallcomm sII / exynos ……. amaze / rezound

  • HeLLo

    It’s nice to dream isn’t it.Yeah this is never happening……

  • Sea Mike Le

    I think people need to know that a merger and a buy out is different stop making stupid statements before you know the facts…

  • A network sharing agreement to build-out LTE would sound great for both companies.

  • Anonymous

    I left Sprint due to there lack of new  WindowsPhone & slow data speeds. Back with Tmobile & Loving my Lumia 710.

    • Anonymous

      Windows phone, LOL.

      • Dominique

        I’m a staunch Android user but I did get to try out the Lumia 710 for a day and it is very very nice.  It doesn’t have near the learning curve of Android and I would say it’s more polished than Android is but that’s because of all the variants on different phones.  CM7 is just as polished as any other OS but stock manufacturer OS skins just aren’t the same.

      • Dave Macias

        whats wrong with windows phone? it certainly is a big departure from what it was back on the windows mobile days, windows phone 7 and windows mobile are not the same.

        • Anonymous

          Thank you.

      • Anonymous

        Lol what a mature comment that was.

    • Lula

      I to love windows 7 phones :)

  • Guest

    There’s no way Sprint could buy T-Mobile right now. They will be in much better position in several years (if they survive in the mean time) to do so. What I think Hesse was referring to was that T-Mobile is back in the game. Whether he meant competition (lol! I know! not anymore…) or for a partnership. They probably will build a out a joint LTE venture. I know Sprint wants to get rid of WiMax and Clearwire deal asap. The real question is what DT wants to do? Do they want to invest more into the US (even though a joint 4G rollout would be cheaper with Sprint) or just still sell us off? I doubt the government would even allow a full buyout of tmobile by sprint even if the price was right and sprint could afford it. They would be much more apt to allow a partnership. The only company I could see that could buy (with government support and all) is dish network. That way the government wouldn’t see it as a major wireless company being absorbed into one but just a simple change of ownership. No one disappears and everyone is happy. But that’s old speculation that might not even be true or pan out. I’d rather see a partnership but a buy out by a good company WILLING to spend money on poor ole tmobile would be great! No more complaints about not having LTE or iphone etc. The bottom line is… DT needs to do something fast! A few empty words by Humm and a few sales days ain’t gonna fix tmo’s bad rap now. They need some serious work like a super flagship device AND iphone, plans for LTE, and better advertising. Carly is cute and all but Verizon and their movie-like Droid commercials make her look like crap. And she’s too skinny (and I’m not into fat chicks lol), pale, and plain looking. Point is… they need to throw some money into them. Make them big and epic. Clever used to do it but let’s face facts. Americans are ultra ADD these days and over simplistic. Everyone is in a big hurry so only the explosions and blood get our attentions. Not that we need that but some special effects wouldn’t hurt or replace Carly with a chick a guy might like. Not some skinny, pale vampire looking emo that women always say “awe! She’s so pretty!” and guys would only rate a 7. She’s okay but we need a REAL attention grabber! Yes, tmobile, time to sell out! Not like you haven’t tried already lol! okay… I’m done. (end rant)

    •  TLTR. And by the looks of how you started. Seems you didn’t read.

    • DuTcH PaPi

      Ahahahaha!!!  That was too funny!  A little “mean girl,” but funny non the less…

      “replace Carly with a chick a guy might like. Not some skinny, pale vampire looking emo that women always say “awe! She’s so pretty!” and guys would only rate a 7.”

      • DuTcH PaPi

        *none the less* I meant.

    • Anonymous

      WOW!! you could have saved yourself all the trouble of writing that useless rant if you either:

      A: Read the article, and not assumed you understood what it meant by simply reading the title

      – OR –

      B:  You were good at reading comprehension.

      This is clearly in regards to partnering or sharing resources..

      Key expressions / sentence fragments from the article in 3, 2, 1 ….. “small scale deals” & “network sharing agreement”

      sorry to make your rant pointless, but someone had to do it.

  • Anonymous

    Back in 2007 Sprint thought about acquiring T-Mobile. Now it’s on the table again? Sprint was the one crying about AT&T merger. Leave T-Mobile alone and let them prosper (with the 3 billion).

    • Damien

       Read the article again and maybe it’ll make sense this time.

    • Tbyrne

      Duuhhh No  Ahh Yo!

  • Anonymous

    Perhaps I’m wrong, but isn’t most of Sprint’s coverage already a patchwork of other company’s spectrum? Isn’t that why they always have to provide the disclaimer “while connected to the Sprint network”?

    • Dominique

       T-mobile is the same way, they rely on other carriers to have their massive coverage.  You’d be surprised of how little of the US is covered by T-mobile towers.

      • Anonymous

        Correct. Both Sprint and T-Mobile natively cover a small fraction of the land area of the US.  But they do natively cover the overwhelming majority of the population of the US.  So, both smartly rely on roaming coverage where relatively few people live or travel frequently.  That is the paradigm for a PCS or (PCS/AWS) national carrier.


      • Dfirrballwow

        so is ATT and Verizon. I don’t care who you use they are all the same. once you get out of the city Towns and major highways you are using someone elses network.

    • Anonymous

      No, that is incorrect.  Sprint’s PCS 1900 MHz spectrum almost entirely dates back to 1995-97, when Sprint acquired a nationwide licensed spectrum footprint at two of the first three FCC PCS auctions.

      The “while connected to the Sprint network” is just a variation on the disclaimer that basically every carrier uses to indemnify itself against excessive roaming or peripheral services that are unavailable while roaming.


  • Anonymous

    i don’t think people are reading the article right… “Analysts have long suggested a Sprint/T-Mobile network sharing agreement…” SHARING!!! NOT BUYING! Technically though… wouldn’t this cause problems due to GSM/CDMA being incompatible? or would they just be jumping on T-Mobile signals?

    • Anonymous

      Yes, most likely a network sharing arrangement (similar to Cingular-T-Mobile in New York and California a few years back), but not a merger.

      Sprint-T-Mobile would share only LTE infrastructure.  Their respective CDMA1X/EV-DO and GSM/W-CDMA networks would continue to operate separately.
      Does that make sense?


    • Thats the problem people don’t READ.

      • think before


  • WillieFDiaz

    T-Mobile is already refarming PCS for
    HSPA. So using 1900 when it frees up for a shared network with Sprint for LTE and utilizing the spectrum in AWS gained from AT&T for more deployment in HSPA makes sense.

    I had thought this since I found out that Network Vision LTE was deployed on 1900Mhz first. Also TMobile could have some of their own network launched through shared Network Vision capabilities, further enhancing their AWS with HSPA, coverage issues would be resolved as well.

    • Anonymous

      One minor downside to a potential Sprint-T-Mobile LTE network sharing agreement is that T-Mobile would likely have to stop “refarming” PCS 1900 MHz spectrum from GSM to W-CDMA.  That PCS spectrum would have to be reserved for LTE 1900 instead.  But that concession would be minor because W-CDMA 1900 cannot be a nationwide solution for T-Mobile, whereas Sprint-T-Mobile as LTE partners could deploy multiple LTE channels in nearly all top markets.


  • BigMixxx

     Sprint does not have any money to buy company. Moresover another network.

    Stock is in the hole and is gonna be for the next 14 months (matter of fact, Scary low), so low that next quarter the margins best be high enough to remain a viable solution….
      That original subsidy cost in the iPhone is eating them up, and will be as long as they carry the device for the first 18 months.  Not to mention a commitment to LTE.  Because they did not have a lot of cash on hand when they bought into the iPhone ecosystem, its gonna be expensive for a bit, so expensive, that they will look at cutting a LOT of costs really soon, probably sell some of that network.

    Hesse was making reference to t mobile still being a viable solution for wireless. 

    There COULD be some underlying stuff that says, ‘network sharing’ but who would get paid.  Sprint is hurting for cash, and T mobile…we just really don’t know….DT is taking the cash and running….

    • jon

      Yes sir, you got it. People STILL get this senario wrong. This is not about sprint buying tmobile. Plan “A” was a deal to sell majority stake of clearwire to dt and then work out a network sharing deal with sprint. I told this story many, many time but everyone always dismissed it. Hesse was never “for the little guy”. He and some of his execs resigned from clearwires board to make way for a dt deal for clearwire. Hesse was pissed that the rug was pulled out from under him when that deal went to the crapper because AT&T offered a rediculous deal to dt. I think Hesse is hinting that this deal may be a possibility still. Its is a win-win for both. Tmob gets the spectrum it needs for LTE and sprint addresess its need for cash…
      I am still crossing my fingers for that Hail Mary called Google. I would love for my wife to work for them…I think by the end of March we should all have a clear picture of where Tmob is headed.

      • Anonymous

        Do you have a source?

        • jon

          Google is an amazing tool. Use it and read any article from june of 2010, right up to the begining of march 2011. Then come to your own conclusion. If you follow the timeline and use a bit of common sense, a pretty clear picture is painted. Now with the lightsquared and sprint marriage all but dead, hesse is going to be forced back to clearwire and tmobile to hammer out a deal.

        • BigMixxx

          man…let me think on this for a minute…

          Clearwire has, what, 120 Mhz of uniform spectrum.  This particular spectrum can probably be sold at, a premium of some consortium came together to help keep clearwire in business.  IF they sold, let’s say, 40Mhz of spectrum to that holding company and built out an LTE network based on it to an outsourcing company, Clear, technically could piggieback on that or invest into that.  


          T and Sprint could each throw X billion into clear to convert from Wimax to LTE in prep for LTE-A, provide an uniform bend here and across the world and the outliers would be at that point ATT and Verizon?  

          Accelerate a LTE-A rollout, Voice over LTE, use Sell sprint and T mobile asset to a third party and lease it back, creating a uniform specturm company in the US for 2 companies and equally hold specturm around the world, offloading coverage in spots where stuff is really spotty….

          Hmm…that’s a real thought….Gives sprint some speed, gives t mobile more coverage, cuts costs i both companies and forms a third…

        • Anonymous

          even if they sell just a small chunk say 20mhz it doesn’t necessarily  covers all the territories they need.  Remember this is all terrestrial I/O tech, so if they are to invest they need to make sure they are getting the most bang for buck.

          your option B would be much more feasible, but not likely.  

        • BigMixxx

          Again, we are dreaming here.

          Option B, I’d like that myself.  I don’t think they want UBER DUPER LTE in, Zyzzx, California or Bucksnort, Tennessee, but in Las Vegas, I’d like to see an LTE GSM from T mobile and better coverage for my sprint phone (which I cannot use at the crib at all, without this damn femtocell device… )

          Main thing.  These two companies, especially Sprint, I mean sprint is REALLY hurting for free cash.   Hell, if I were dan, I might sell Sprint to T mobile, and let customers convert.  That would really make number 3, number 3, putting more pressure on ATT and Verizon to drive costs down. 

          Imagine for one moment, 

          T mobile makes a bid for Sprint’s mobile business by overleveraging T mobile U.S.A.  Sprint is damn near worthless (Because sprint still ain’t finished paying for Nextel).  Sprint is probably worth, NET 16 billion and dropping. (Very BAD investments such as wimax for ‘4g’, nextel at 35 billion, this APPLE deal, OMG! although I like apple, Sprint OVER committed).  And they just lost a billion dollars.  It won’t get better over the next couple of quarters.  People will lose jobs, really, really soon.  It is imperative that sprint does something that makes them look a hell of a lot better…..A deal with T mobile may be the right thing to do, with sprint succombing to T mobile.

          I’m dreaming though…

  • Tbyrne

    Is it coincidence? Sounds like you and Hesse are becoming good buddies! LOL

  • My2cents

    Why dont you guys quit living in a dream and see reality. Do you truly relize how HORRIBLE Sprint is and always has been. Its gotta be eveyones last choice for a carrier. I-Phone or not. An ATT merger was bad but, a Sprint merger would have been even worse. T-Mo would be better off dead than with any thing having to do with Sprint. I have had both Sprint and T-Mo for 14 years at times and yes my expriences do not necessarly relect the general populations experiences, but i speak for myself and a few select others too with similar experiences. Sprint has always been bad at every thing from signal to customer service, they cant even tie thier own shoes, let alone give a person any kind of a decent experience in dealing with them ever! I loved T-Mo and wached them go from, whenever i had a question i got an answer and was taken care of on the spot, to having to make 20 calls to customer service just to get a simple answer and well your phones warranty is out so we cant give you any support and good luck with your problem…WTF! I keep and use my phones and i need them to work for the life of my contract.  ATT was never good to me either, so no love loss for them. Verizon is expensive but decent, I guess you get what you pay for sometimes. But back to my point that tying these two half empty leaking boats together with strings is not gonna send us to the promised land, but rather we may just end up sunk, with the strings tied together around our necks. I make this assumption based on the way these two once promising companies have a long history of bad decisions (Sprint) and a more recent history of the same (D-Telecom/ T-Mo). I truly hope I Am wrong about this possibility. But we all know the backgound stories here. So thats my shared experience and thoughts in brief…Remeber, we all have our own likes and dislikes to be fair to all…

    • jon

      Really? Read the darn story!! This has NOTHING to do with a merger of tmob and sprint!

  • GinaDee

    Who would build out the LTE networks respectively?  You think HSPA is patchy on AWS just wait how patchy and sparse it’ll be on 2.6 GHz.

    T-Mobile needs low band greenfield spectrum.  

    Either way at this rate and with everything still up in the air we can say goodbye to a iPhone 5 on T-Mobile.  No way Apple is going to offer T-Mobile USA a phone when they don’t even have a clear plan to LTE yet.  Pathetic.

    • jon

      If the deal happens the way many thought it would, it would be clearwire. Dt would own majority stake and sprint and tmob would share the network.
      I also wouldnt rule out dish network jumping in on this. Maybe all three work together on an LTE network and network sharing. Pool assets together and get it done..

    • Sorry, FYI the next iPhone WILL come to T-Mobile USA. As a matter of fact, the next iPhone will work better on T-Mobile’s “4G” network than on a “4G LTE” network. LTE kills battery life EXTREMELY fast. If Apple were to release an LTE iPhone this year, battery life will be affected severely. Apple wants to IMPROVE battery life not make it worse.

      My guess is that Apple will release a new iPhone with a new design this summer or fall and it will be available on all current carriers, but with T-Mobile USA joining the club. It will most likely only support 3G and have some new hardware features, etc etc. THEN next year is when they’ll release an LTE iPhone, and by then most carriers would have a way much more robust LTE networks and battery life will be better as chips begin to get smaller and smaller.

      • J-Hop2o6

        The next gen chips (this year) reduce LTE battery drain GREATLY since it’ll be on the same die/chip with the CPU and GPU.

      • InvisibleHand

        T-Mobile will get the iphone at the exact same time that they increase prices by $20. There isn’t a whole lot more to speculate on here. Apple demands a premium and T-Mobile knows that it can’t afford to pay that without raising prices. If they raise prices to afford the phone, they know that they will lose tons of angry customers who think that it’s T-Mobiles fault that prices have to go up. It’s extremely difficult to calculate this type of risk which is why T-Mobile is just working to provide better support for unlocked iphones.

    • Anonymous

      I think that you may be discounting the combined footprint, regardless of frequency band, of a partnership. Do a quick look at Sprint and T-Mobile’s coverage maps, if they partner, those maps will overlap. The combined map would rival Verizon’s footprint.

      Theoretically, they could collaborate and just overhaul their respective frequency plans. Shifting PCS/AWS freqs to urban and especially “hilly” places (I’m looking at you Pittsburgh), and moving 2.6GHz to rural and flatter regions.

      It wouldn’t be a “partnership” if they both acted independently to roll out LTE.

  • I read the article.

    So does this mean T-Mobile will release the Galaxy Note on March 1?

    = )

    • Anonymous

      Wtf does this have to do with a phone?

      Btw I like Samsung now I was primarily an htc user but after seeing my friends skyrocket and I want a Samsung.
      But I’ve read the note isn’t being received well.

      • Anonymous

        The Note it is! It’s only going to be sold by At&t! It was in article in tue’s NYC Daily News page 29. What it stated that it will At&t phone only.

  • Anonymous

    Why did Sprint get in bed with Clearwire only to leave them for LightSquare and now to possibly look at Tmobile for a new partner.

  • Sprint Nextel is a CDMA network, while T-Mobile USA is an GSM / HSPA+ network. How can these two companies have a network sharing deal with incompatible technologies? I don’t care about LTE but I’m curious to what T-Mobile’s LTE strategy will be…

    • Anonymous

      Once they start moving to LTE, it won’t matter.
      If they partner, and put together a coordinated plan to rollout on their respective networks, it would be a relatively smooth transition. Plus such a partnership, would probably cause Clearwire to give up, and sell their spectrum. With Sprint and T-Mobile in the cat-bird seat to acquire it.

  • HeLLo

    I guess some of you people can’t read nothing is mentioned about Sprint buying T-Mobile.Sprint has enough problems to worry about.And I rather see T-Mobile build their own LTE network instead of having  to wait around for Sprint to get their act together.

  • MaxSpectruum

     An ATT merger was bad but, a Sprint merger would have been even worse. T-Mo would be better off dead than with any thing having to do with Sprint. 
    This is written in past tense, maybe you should read the whole comment section: WOULD HAVE BEEN WORSE. This just implies the possibility of what could have happened.

  • Anonymous

    Somebody please tell T-Mobile not to let this man anywhere near their company. This dipshit is the reason I left Sprint…I’d hate to see him start involving himself in T-Mobile’s business as well, no matter how minor of a role he plays.

    • Anonymous

      I’m telling you he’s a TROLL!

    • Gouv

      I like how you are disregarding Hesses’s performance and relevance while possibly implying  T-Mobile has really proven itself to be a big winner with all their churn and industry short-comings.  A wise comedian once said, “Where do you get the balls?” in response to a shocking and ridiculous statement.

      and well i have to ask you that same question??? 

      At least Sprint is free to make their own calls and do things how they feel is necessary, unlike T-MO which is shackled to a parent company that drains it of all its true potential.  If Hesse is a troll like others have claimed, than DT is a cancer to TMO USA. (and i’m not talking about a zodiac sign either).

  • TMoFan

    If it’s such a struggle to roll out LTE then I think a network sharing agreement makes sense. But it would be in T-Mobile’s best interest to partner with Clearwire or LightSquared (if they ever get up and running) than with Sprint.

    • jon

      Sprint owns 54% of clearwire. I think thats the point Hesse is making. Sprint has “options”…We all know that does not include a bid for tmobile usa. They simply dont have the cash. They do have a bartering tool though with clearwire. A deal where dt, (maybe even dt and dish network) buy sprints 54% stake. In exchange sprint would then share that network with tmob usa. That accomplishes what sprint and dt need. Sprint needs cash and dt needs the spectrum access. I am only throwing dishnetwork into this because dt might be reluctant to buy the whole 54%, but maybe willing to partner with dish to buy it. Dish has already expressed the need for help deploying its network dreams and jumping in on this might be the easiest way for them to accomplish this goal.

    • Elkhunters

      Honestly. How man we know that such a partnership would work; but any better than it did for sprint?

    • Anonymous

      Lightsquared is becoming hopeless, and Clearwire is not going to start LTE rollout until 2013, and it will only be in areas considered hotspots.They have not planned any sort of Nationwide TD-LTE rollout.  Also Sprint has the ability to give their partners access to Clearwire’s TD-LTE network. If TMOUS does not plan on working with Dish, then I believe sprint would be the next best option. 

    • J-Hop2o6

      Clearwire, no. Sucky spectrum since its wayy to high up which means it sucks (proven) at building penetration. So they have to deploy MANY towers in a city. Pointless.

      LightSquare, HELL NO. Interferes with GPS spectrum. Screw LS.

    • Ericdabbs

       Why would you even go anywhere near Lightsquared knowing they are about to lose the FCC battle to the GPS industry.  Also Clearwire has crappy spectrum for coverage and is NOT nationwide so why would you partner with someone who can’t give you that consistent data stream wherever you go.  Just ask any Sprint customer who uses Wimax including myself.

      Sprint is the best partner for this because their Network Vision tower architecture is multimodal and can handle different spectrum bands if it wanted.  Pooling the excess PCS spectrum for both Sprint and Tmobile to create a LTE network sharing agreement makes sense for both companies.  Sprint would get an additional revenue stream to help fund Network Vision and Tmobile will get the benefit of getting a “true” 4G (yes I know regular LTE is not 4G but we all know Sprint will get LTE-Advanced) network without fronting the costs it would have needed to upgrade from HSPA+ to LTE.

  • Anonymous

    We don’t need you TROLL! We are just fine on our own Dan Hesse!

  • Anonymous

    Dan Hesse is a troll! From skyrim!

  • Anonymous

    I would love to see something happen here, though most of you wouldn’t expect any less from me..  This really could help T-mobile.  I would love to see sprint do something with T-mobile, It would fix verizon’s and at&t’s laurels rather quickly if what they do  together works effectively.  I’ve always had a soft spot for sprint, even though i rather dislike CDMA and all things nextel.  However, i can’t help but cringe at the thought of much technological incompatibility.

    An interesting possibility none the less, the two under dogs should team up.  T-Mobile alone can’t stand by itself like this for much longer and remain relevant and competitive.  

    • InvisibleHand

      I would love to see something like this go through but for far different reasons. A merger like this would do nothing to Verizon and AT&T except perpetuate the image of T-Mobile and Sprint being budget networks for people who can’t afford “high quality” service from the other two. In a world where perception becomes reality, the only thing that will save T-Mobile is raising prices. Can you imagine how many people would quit buying Mercedes or BMW if they started trying to compete with Honda on price? People get Verizon and AT&T because it is expensive and has become associated with wealth (and the iphone). Thinking that a T-Mobile/Sprint merger would cause Verizon to lower their prices is silly.

  • Anonymous

    I see this as neither good nor bad. I had time with Sprint and their customer service wasn’t nearly as bad as people claimed. It was their “4G” that sent me away. 

  • Anonymous

    These continual references to T-Mobile’s spectrum as if they had oodles of it.

    They want some $$ help building out Network Vision and use of towers maybe but spectrum?

    As far as I know T-Mobile has a spectrum shortage.

    Am I wrong here?

    • JackCrack

      yeah your wrong T-Mobile has plenty of spectrum and never had a spectrum problem.  Deutsche was trying to sell because they are in debt. 

      • analyzethis

         Why does every article about T-Mobile moving to LTE say they need more spectrum to do so?

        “There is little question that T-Mobile needs additional spectrum”

        Prior to the AT&T bid T-Mobile was in talks with both Clear and LighSquared (now dead) about – more spectrum.

      • Anonymous

        That just doesn’t match what the media says whenever they talk about T-Mobile moving to LTE they say they need more spectrum 

        • Tlkl808

          its because LTE is run through CDMA,
          and Tmobile is GSM. They need spectrum
          To be able to use both networks!

        • Guest

          you’re a jackass. the next generation of lte is going to combine hspa+ and lte and you say lte runs through cdma? the only reason you say that is because you see sprint and verizon’s lte. lte is actually based off of gsm/edge/hspa/umts NOT CDMA. don’t spread ignorance

        • Blessen John

          There’s no need to be an ass about it. 

        • Anonymous

          Your both somewhat wrong and right. HSPA+ is WCDMA. So is LTE. LTE is just wider. They both use the same switching and authentication platform as GSM but that is where the technology stops being similar. GSM is nothing like either technology past the Switch. And if we had LTE we would have 3 networks like AT&T does right now not just 2. 

      • Anonymous

        You are wrong sir. Check your facts. there are markets where we do not have enough AWS Spectrum to put more than one carrier on the air for 3G/4G. that means capacity is limited and HSPA+ is no faster than 21Mbps. We are hurting big time in some markets. The AT&T spectrum is going to help but it is going to take some time to get it transferred to us and then trade it to other carriers for spectrum in the markets we need it in. 

  • Anonymous

     Hesse’s performance and relevance? He has done nothing for Sprint. He hasn’t made them a single dime since he took charge. He has constantly put Sprint into more and more debt. Under his leadership, we saw the Sprint network deteriorate down to almost nothing. Under his leadership, we saw millions of Nextel customers leave the company. Every one of his moves have pissed off existing customers. Yet, he has no problem taking home a ridiculously high salary for doing absolutely nothing.

    • Anonymous

      And yet somehow, they are still floating above T-mobile in the American market?? how and why is that?

      I’m not saying he’s the best, in fact i too think he could do better.  In fact i think they suffered their largest loss in 3 years recently.  Interestingly they are still in better shape to survive in the long run than tmo usa is.  

      You are casting stones at another company without taking a look at this one that i’m assuming you are part of.  Dotson was slightly better than Humm, but both are failing equally.

      • Anonymous

         They may have more customers, but T-Mobile has at least been profitable, whereas Sprint hasn’t had a profit in 4 years or so, and aren’t expected to be profitable until about 2017. They’re also racking up debt like it’s play money. They had high hopes for the iPhone, but that hasn’t sold as well as they expected, and they’re stuck buying billions worth of them anyway. Their stock is absolutely pathetic. Just because they’re floating by now doesn’t mean they’ll be floating by in the future. I’m not saying Sprint will fail completely, but if they keep going in the direction they’ve been going in, things will not turn out well.

        Also, look at the previous partnerships and mergers that Sprint has been involved in. The Nextel merger was a flop. Clear was a flop. LightSquared is about to officially be a flop. Sure, Nextel was before Hesse’s time, but it was his job to prevent those Nextel customers from leaving by the boatload, a job at which he pathetically failed. Clear and Lightsquared’s problems aren’t exactly Sprint’s fault, but Sprint threw Clear under the bus last quarter. A partnership is supposed to be about benefits to both businesses, not about turning around and stabbing the other in the back when it has trouble. Sprint has proven that they don’t know how to effectively manage a partnership.

        Look, I’m not saying that I’m a T-Mobile fan. I’m not. I’m a pretty new customer to T-Mobile, and in my brief time here, they’ve provided me with good service. For that, I’m happy. My dislike of Hesse is exactly that…a dislike of Hesse (and Sprint management in general). It has nothing to do with me liking T-Mobile or being blind to T-Mobile’s faults. I wouldn’t want Hesse anywhere near any of the wireless carriers at this point, whether that be at the top of the ladder or as a partner.

        • Anonymous

          Point well take , I’m used to fighting with the sheeple. Atleast you are objective in your reasoning unlike most of the willingly blind.

          At the end of the day they are both strugggling under dogs. I personally don’t own shares in sprint. I do in verizon and AT&T for obvious reasons.

          I’m just glad you aren’t one of the sheeple.

        • Tbyrne


        • Anonymous

          Speaking of the Sheeples!!!  The lord of the lambs chimed in himself… how lovely indeed. 

          At least byrnie accepts his role and seems ok with it.

        • InvisibleHand

          I agree with many of your points but still feel that Hesse wouldn’t be bad. His commercials are silly but he has done good things for sprint. I think they sold their souls for the iphone too late but can you imagine what would have happened if people found out that sprint was that close to cutting a deal and didn’t take it? It would be like when I first heard that the CEO of T-Mobile said that people don’t really want to watch TV and go on the web from their phones. This was the same person who lost the iphone to AT&T in the first place. This is the biggest fail in the history of T-Mobile regardless of the reason that it happend. The justification was likely very sound originally. The hardest thing about the wireless (or any tech) industry is predicting how customers will react and respond to things both good and bad. I think letting all the nextel customers run off was part of the plan. Not that it was carried out very well, but I don’t fault them for taking a risk.

  • JackCrack

    the same idiots that wrote those articles convinced you that the T-mobile AT&T merger would create 100,000 jobs too.  The real truth was that AT&T was smaller after it last merger where it promised to keep jobs than before it absorbed them.  Same journalists that I watched call Apple a telecommunications company.  Just because a journalist says it doesn’t mean that its true or that he even believes it himself.

    • Anonymous

      I wasn’t in favor of the  merger and I know jobs would have been lost not gained.

      Meanwhile you have shown no evidence that T-Mobile does not need spectrum other than your word and calling journalists idiots.

      Just because you say it doesn’t make it true either.

      • InvisibleHand

        Jobs are lost because they aren’t sustainable. It’s not like the companies just want to fire people. I don’t know why people keep thinking that jobs can be created or eliminated. Jobs follow a need. To create jobs, you must first create a need. The merger would likely have created hordes of new jobs, just not lower level front line positions. The merger failing is one of the worst things that could have happened to the wireless industry because now AT&T has to find a way to make back a few billion dollars, T-Mobile was basically stagnant while waiting to see if the buyout would get approved and has money to make up, and Verizon will raise prices as soon as AT&T and T-Mobile do. It baffles me that people can get excited about the merger failing. It will slow down technological advancement (which creates jobs) and increase the net cost of service. 

        • Anonymous

          You’ll have to name some large US mergers that resulted in a jobs gain.  That’s how in part the merger is paid for.  All major mergers have layoffs in synergy areas.

          The last 2 large wireless mergers both resulted in layoffs and neither were paying the premium that AT&T was paying. How were laid off after Hewlett Packard bought out EDS?

          AT&T was stupid enough to agree to those breakup terms so that’s an internal problem.

          Technological advances almost always result in less people working in the US.  Small local telephone central offices used to be manned with several people and now are run remotely with someone responding to an equipment failure. 

          Did I say I was ‘excited’ that the merger failed or were you answering someone else?

          It baffles me how people don’t really read the post they are responding to.

        • InvisibleHand

          Automation eliminates low-skill jobs and replaces them with tons of higher skill jobs. You might be too old to remember how many programmers and software engineers have jobs thanks to the advancements in smart phones and would likely rather dwell on the people at the 411 call centers who lost their jobs since everyone has google in their pocket. It sounds like you’re having difficulty the proverbial forest through the trees. One more thing, I wouldn’t use MCI as part of a good example of anything. (Think Sarbanes Oxley…)

        • InvisibleHand

          seeing* the proverbial…

        • Anonymous

          So where are your specific examples of mergers resulting in huge job gains?

          What happened to EDS when HP bought them? 25,000 layoffs

          Verizon & Alltel? 16,000 layoffs since the merger

          Sprint & Nextel? 10’s of thousands before the crash in 2008

          AT&T & Cinglar? 13,000 layoffs

          There I have provided specific examples now its your turn.

  • dj

    I love the underdogs that being T-Mobile and Sprint. I believe that they should do a money pool or a Joint venture company because both companies are budget friendly
    With T-Mobiles pretty fn great HSPA+ combined with Sprints soon to be amazing LTE you will have amazing phones that will always has service wherever you go period you would litterly get the best of all worlds with HSPA+ 42( including GPRS, Edge, and T-Mobile basic HSPA 3G) you will also get the added addition of Sprints LTE 4G (which of course is going to have a slow roll out which will be compensated for because they will have T-Mobiles HSPA+ to use still. ) You also get a CDMA network to utilize. Another thing would be that you get rid of carrier #4 and you have a healthy Triopoly I believe the new T-Sprint would would be the new #2 carrier if not #1 which will bring the top 3 much closer in terms of # of users and basic economics suggests with stiff competition comes lower prices. You also would see all carriers getting moe or less the same phones. Because theyd all be or less equal.that’s just my 2cent though.

  • Anonymous

    Seriously you guys, Sprint still is trying to phase out the iDen network (remember that purchase?), then they have to deal with phasing out their wimax “4g” that failed miserably.  They seem to have their fingers in every cookie jar trying to find the right deal/fit.  When they should have gone w/ the global standard LTE they wouldnt be behind the 8 ball right now trying to find a partner.

    And yes TMO NEEDS more spectrum, I dont know where some people are getting the notion that TMO has plenty of it when it’s the big 2 that seem to have a huge chunk of the TV freq and they’re hoarding a bunch of PCS spectrum as well.  Recall that if the merger didnt happen TMO would get some spectrum handed over to them?

    If anything a joint venture with ATT would have made more sense from a technology standpoint where as you are trying to marry sprint’s CDMA/wimax/LTE with TMO’s GSM/HSPA+/LTE plan what a cluster that would be.

    But this is the wonderful world of wireless so ANYTHING can happen.  But I for one would not like that venture.

    • SouthernBlackNerd

      They only started plans to phase out the iDEN network. Lets not act like this has been an on going thing. The nextel deal was a fiasco, but that was before hesse time.  The reason they went with wimax over LTE was because LTE was not ready for commercial deployment. They had a timer on their 2500 band. If they did not use it by a certain time, then they would have lost it. If you were stuck with the options of using a technology you know will not be global standard or losing control over 150mhz of spectrum, which would you have chosen? Also the failure of their wimax is on Clearwire, because is not actually sprint’s control, since Clearwire is a separate company and sprint does not have voting power of the company. 

      With Sprint switching to multimodal towers, the technology standpoint is moot. Their towers are able to handle CDMA, LTE, GSM, HSPA+ along with every band. 

      Tmo needs spectrum if it plans on creating its own LTE network, but in a Network Sharing with Sprint, they would have enough. VZ has more 700/1700 than tmobile has 1700/1900, and I believe ATT is the same. Sprint also has less than the other two( if we do not look at Clearwire’s spectrum). 

      Tmobile is using their 1700 band for HSPA+, which leaves their 1900 band left for 2G. 

      According to this article

      Sprint and tmobile using just their surplus 1900 band would be able to add at least 10mhz of spectrum on top of Sprints Nationwide 10mhz G block in 81 of the top 100. 20mhz in 42 of the top 100.  The article has graphs which show a better picture, but the combination with S and T would have a 1900mhz network with the capacity to compete or even better the networks of Verizon or ATT. Those graphs does not included the extra capacity both would get from Clear’s spectrum in the major markets. 

  • Anonymous

    I dont want sprint at all… 

  • Anonymous

    Some of the comments seem to display a fair amount of unease, even animosity toward Sprint.  Certainly, Sprint has made some decisions that — with the benefit of 20/20 hindsight — look quite dubious.  But I suggest that people give Sprint the benefit of the doubt, likewise for T-Mobile and some of its decisions that have not fared so well.

    Bear in mind that Sprint and T-Mobile do not have the luxury of making decisions in a vacuum.  Rather, both Sprint and T-Mobile are operating in a hostile environment; both are under tremendous anti competitive pressures from VZW and AT&T.  And those circumstances oft do not lend themselves to successful decision making — that is if we judge decisions based solely on the success levels of their outcomes.

    In fact, the smaller scales of Sprint and T-Mobile almost inherently limit the extents of their successes, while behemoths VZW and AT&T can use their sheer economies of scale to make anything they choose relatively successful decisions.  To illustrate, had VZW decided to adopt the WiMAX evolutionary path, then WiMAX almost assuredly would now be firmly entrenched, and many would be singing its praises.

    Now, if you still dislike Sprint, keep this in mind.  If Sprint and T-Mobile were to form a joint venture as speculated, it would include a shared LTE network only.  In other words, it would affect both carriers’ LTE coverage and services but would leave completely separate their respective CDMA1X and GSM/W-CDMA coverage and services.  So, if you wanted to steer clear of the hypothetical Sprint-T-Mobile partnership, you still could do so by remaining on the T-Mobile HSPA+ network and not upgrading to LTE.

    That said, recall that T-Mobile has been in a position similar to this previously.  Six to seven years ago, T-Mobile faced a 3G spectrum shortage, and it put T-Mobile at least three years behind VZW, AT&T, and Sprint in 3G (EV-DO or W-CDMA) deployment.  That delay hurt T-Mobile’s competitive position and contributed to putting T-Mobile in the underdog position that it occupies today.

    Now, T-Mobile faces an LTE spectrum challenge.  With its commitments to GSM and W-CDMA, T-Mobile cannot deploy LTE on its own — not on any wide scale, not to any deep bandwidth, not anytime soon.  Sure, HSPA+ can keep up with LTE in many ways but not in all ways, including in the court of public opinion.  For example, should T-Mobile finally gain access to the iPhone this year, would it be healthful for T-Mobile to be the only of the four national carriers not to be able to offer LTE service on the iPhone?  Would it be good for T-Mobile to be the laggard yet again?  A Sprint-T-Mobile LTE joint venture could prevent that and ensure that T-Mobile is able to keep up with the competition.


  • WRong Asset

    David why do you think T-mo wants to do anything with the company that just spent 12 months trying to blow up their merger?  You have it upside down

    • I didn’t say I did, I was merely informing the readers of comments Sprint’s CEO made.

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