LetsTalk Confirms HD2 Release Date As March 24th


At this point, we have had fairly good indications that the HTC HD2 would hit on March 24th and that was further boosted by a story from Laptopmag yesterday. Thanks to the good folks at LetsTalk who are (perhaps accidentally) confirming the March 24th, date as the available-to-order date. That is the first time we have seen a reliable “source” as in a retailer discuss the release date. Well actually, it is the second time if we include the mysterious Mobitv tweet. Therefore, I think it is safe to say that all the hype for March 24th will come true and your HD2 dreams will be fulfilled come that morning. This is as concrete as we have gotten regarding a date so if you’ve been trying to figure out exactly how long you have to save those pennies, T-minus 14 days. Well actually 13 days and 12 hours. Will you be lining up? Will you be at your local T-Mobile retail store waiting with your face pressed against the glass bright and early?



  • aLb3Rt

    if you look at the bottom of the page under network technology its also showing as supporting UMA. that is a BIG +++++++ for me. awesome!

    • Kevin

      Yes, but you can also see that the phone supports up to 1mbps throughput speed, which is way off. This phone does not actually support UMA

  • sweet, do they offer some kind of special discount?

    • Davidohio

      Special discount???? I really don’t see this phone for less than the $200 discounted price. Special discount….you are funny.

  • Syklone

    The Best Phone To Hit The US! Yes, I’ll Be There; T-mo off of I-45, 1960!

    • Jonathan

      You’re from Houston too, eh? Lol

  • randall

    be careful with these guys and wirelfly, read the fine print carefully, lots of fee’s and crappy restrictions.

    • David, Managing Editor

      Randall, I’m not promoting LetsTalk or any other retailer her, merely that what they posted is the best unofficial official confirmation I can get of a March 24th date.

      • randall

        I know that, i was stating incase anybody was tempted to purchase through these guys, because there terms are very restricting, and can end up costing you alot of cash

      • ItsMichaelNotMike

        Yes, this is additional confirmation about March 24. Look at all the evidence, including this, and it seems pretty safe to say that it’s March 24.

        After all, T-Mobile gave LetsTalk an evaluation/review/promo unit that had to include literature. That literature had to disclose when LetsTalk could start selling it, etc.

        So March 24 seems carved in stone.

        Now the only questions: Will there be pre-ordering?

        Or perhaps T-Mobile notifying certain people can buy it early (those who signed up on that T-Mobile page to be kept informed about the HD2).

  • attfan

    i thought the tmobile hd2 was supposed to have 578 ram and not the 448 this is showing.

    • ItsMichaelNotMike

      I would not trust a third party vendor to get details and specs accurate. I suspect that when making the T-Mobile HD2 page they used the old HD2 page as a template and whoever did that forgot to change some details.

      Generally, never look to sites like LetsTalk for information about a device. As you can see, they make errors.

      • FutureGuyKnowsSoLittle

        That’s so true… I think mobilebee.com still has listings for HTC phones that never existed and only were rumored mock-ups, yet still say ‘coming soon’.

  • bigc17

    So many websites have been so called “confirming” the release date of the hd2, I don’t know who to believe anymore. I can’t wait for this phone to come out because I’m gonna be one of the first people in line to pick this bad boy . T- Mobile is good carrier and are striving to put out great phones this year but, I wish they would do two things 1.) Give an actual confirmed release date for the HD2 2.)Make the actual release date earlier than speculated……..Come on T-Mobile, everyone knows about this phone so stop keeping things on the hush, hush.

    • David, Managing Editor

      I know this site is definitely one of the “many websites” you are referring to but this is an actual vendor discussing a release date which thus far, has not yet occurred. Therefore, its of note!

    • gargoyle999

      I think we’ll be waiting until the 16th for any “official” announcement. Though I’m supposed to be the first to know since I gave them my email on that stick together site. lol

      • Joe Pa

        Actually you will be the 2nd to know…..I’m the first. LOL

    • DotNetCoderAZ

      Actually, I hope they keep it hush hush until the 23rd… less people in line means I get my phone faster… ;-)

      • Recless

        Word! You couldn’t have said it any better. I have class that morning so i hope there will be still a few in stock by the afternoon. After my touch crapped out on my i had to resort to an old “in case of emergency” phone to hold me over till the HD2 drops. It would suck if i had to wait longer than the release date.

  • AG

    I want!!! But no Windows 7 support and no Android. If I get this phone then I will no doubt have to upgrade again within the next year. I guess I will keep my lowly G1 a little longer :(

    • FutureGuyKnowsSoLittle

      I have the same attitude, but then I thought about it (I posted some of this in a comment yesterday):

      – About the price: I don’t want to re-new contract for this phone either, not when Wp7 is coming in less than a year. But then it occured to me… the non-contracted HD2 is $450, or $20 a month for 20 months. $20 a month is NOTHING (seriously, eat less Big Macs or cut down on 1 pack of smokes a week, seriously people, $20 is NOTHING). So as long as T-mo will do the payment plan, then I’m definitely more inclined to pick up the HD2 without contract. Then this way, once WP7 does come out, I can use a contract re-newal for one of those phones.

      – I used to be early-adopter everything… until the G1. Its not a bad phone to be honest, but god it got real old real fast. After my experience w/ G1, I’m going to wait and see what the verdict is on Wp7 first before buying, even though I so badly want it. So then you figure… during that time period when Wp7 is out and I’m researching and deciding, I have a nice HD2 to play with!

      – Lastly… and yes, I know what the Magic 8 Ball answer would be… but no one seems to really have hit upon this: Who said the first Wp7 phone is coming to T-mobile? Who said that when Wp7 comes out in 2010, it will be on all carriers in 2010? There’s a lot of unanswered questions really. I think I’d be more upset if I passed on the HD2 only to find out T-mo won’t have ANY Wp7 handsets until 2011.

      • Kevin

        The only problem with this thinking is that if you are going to put the phone on a 20 payment installment plan, you must be under an even more plus plan. If you are on that plan you can no longer migrate to a contracted plan to get a discount in the future. You would have to cancel out your account at that point and start an entirely new one under contract with a new phone number.

      • AG

        I think what Kevin is saying is correct. I am on the family even more plan and I don’t think I can just go back so easily just to get the discount. I kinda want to save my payment plan option for something I really want and while the HD2 is amazing is that what I really want? I have grown so accustomed to Android and I never owned a Windows phone. The only thing that is making me want to get this phone is because Ive had the g1 for a while now and T-Mobile for the past 7 years.

      • Kevin

        @AG, You should contact tmobile to find out what your eip credit is because you may be able to go for the hd2, and then still have plenty of credit to break another phone down in the short future. Also, I would recommend stopping by a store after the phone is released to play with it for a bit. It is absolutely amazing, and as someone that loves both android and wm, I can say you shouldnt let that stop you from enjoying this phone. Not to beat a dead horse, but as nice as android is, it still has its youthful flaws. WM is perfect, but it certainly doesnt hurt the hd2 in anyway. With the proper knowledge, wm can let you do so many things other phones cant. (I still love Android as well, so I dont want to hear from those haters)

    • DotNetCoderAZ

      “I think what Kevin is saying is correct. I am on the family even more plan and I don’t think I can just go back so easily just to get the discount. I kinda want to save my payment plan option for something I really want and while the HD2 is amazing is that what I really want? I have grown so accustomed to Android and I never owned a Windows phone. The only thing that is making me want to get this phone is because Ive had the g1 for a while now and T-Mobile for the past 7 years.”

      My girlfriend and I went to the Even More Plus plan (after being customers for 10 years, the loyalty family plan was actually more expensive) and honestly, it’s worked out fine. I can switch phones as often as I want (they just basically keep applying my down payment to the new phone). In the past 3 months, I have gotten a TP2, 2 MT3G’s and a BB9700. Whenever I want to switch phones, I walk in with the phone and my original packaging and essentially swap it out. That’s what I will do with the HD2. Walk in, swap, walk out. :-)

      • DavidB

        That’s fine within the 14-day (discounted) or 30-day (full price) return window. Keep the phone any longer and no store is going to take any phone back, since they’ll get no credit from T-Mobile.

        Don’t you like any phones longer than 30 days?

      • DotNetCoderAZ

        @DavidB: Ummmmm, nope. I’m a phone slut. lol

  • Wilma Flintstone

    I think it’s safe to say that the Tmonews site on March 24th will be as a ghost town due to all of the people going absolutely batty over their new HD2.

    Hey David, also any news on the Dell Mini 5? I’m getting more and more impressed with it the more I learn about it (Although I don’t like the huge icons on the homescreen). I will be getting the HD2 unlocked and buying the Dell Mini 5 subsidized.

    • David, Managing Editor

      I haven’t heard anything about the Dell Mini 5 other than AT&T mumblings. I wouldn’t put your eggs in that basket if you were trying to decide about a phone that may or may not end up on the magenta side of things!

      • Bobomo

        With Xperia X10 rumored to be going AT&T as well, and the Sholes Tablet/MOTOROI being MIA it seems like T-Mo is getting shorted on the high-end Android market over the next several months.

    • SEFan

      Or… they’ll be reading TmoNews ON their new HD2s :-)

  • confused

    why is the touch pro 2 suddenly out of stock

    • David, Managing Editor

      I sincerely doubt one has anything to do with the other and its just pure coincidence!

    • JT

      If you really want one, I’d be very happy to sell you mine – like brand new; had it 3 months and hardly used it. Have extended battery, Sena black leather deluxe case, all orginal items, including the box and car charger – make an offer.

    • Kevin

      It has been out of stock for about a month

    • ItsMichaelNotMike

      As a former owner of a Touch Pro2, permit me to speculate.

      1. In August 3009 the Touch Pro2 was almost dead on arrival because of what took hold on the Internet, the T-Mobile Touch Pro2 version not having a 3.5 mm audio port.

      None of us discussing it back in July 2009 ever could figure out why T-Mo’s TP2 version came with a USB audio port, but from HTC’s actions post no-3.5mm port we can accurately conclude HTC concluded the USB all-in-one port “experiment” was a mistake.

      Why the USB audio port? 3.5mm ports are a hassle for carriers to warranty because they are fragile and easily develop problems (the port, not the carriers). So to HTC a 10 pin USB port seemed a great remedy.

      Trouble was, the consuming public hated the idea. It took off like a wildfire on the Net that some carrier’s Touch Pro2s did not have a 3.5mm port and it soon developed into that being a flaw (at the time I think Sprint’s TP2 came with a 3.5mm port).

      Later sites started to advertise “Has a 3.5mm port” as if that was some sort of feature. That was obviously in response to all the criticism on the Net about the lack of a 3.5mm port.

      IMHO this issue alone killed T-Mo’s Touch Pro2 sales. And with lackluster sales T-Mo is not in a hurry to restock the TP2, at least not those with the USB audio port. (Maybe T-Mo has ordered a new batch, this time with the 3.5mm port.)

      There is further evidence of this being a mistake when considering that HTC came out with the myTouch with a 3.5mm port and called that an updated version.

      2. There is also the issue that the Touch Pro2 was a WinMo device. It’s a fact of life that in August 2009 WinMo was a dog with fleas OS.
      3. Lastly, there was the price issue. While the Touch Pro2 was selling for a lot of money in Europe, T-Mo U.S. had to price it down. Even so, it was still $550 or $350 on a two year. That’s a lot of money for a phone with the above issues.

      4. I can only speculate, but I suspect T-Mo said that when supplies of the Touch Pro2 run out, they will not order more. Maybe, and this is a big maybe, they will order Touch Pro2s with 3.5mm ports, but the TP2 may be too dated for that.

      I don’t know the sales numbers, but I suspect the TP2 is the last thing on T-Mobile’s mind.

      5. Like the other member on here, I sold my Touch Pro2 last month for a $30 profit and consider myself lucky. I sold it in anticipation of getting the HD2.

      While the TP2 is a great device, I can’t imagine sales are going to be all that high when these new superphones are now coming to market. Compared to the HD2 and N1, the TP2 has half the power and specs. Although it’s a great device, it’s hard for anyone to buy it knowing there’s other phones with double the power on the market.

      6. All that said, because I like the TP2 I will buy another when the used eBay price gets down to $200 or so. It’s a very useful device and at $200 would be a bargain. (For example, it has TV Out, something that the HD2 will not have. It also has a really nice keyboard, the best I have ever used.)

      • ItsMichaelNotMike

        Yeah, yeah… I meant “2009” not “3009.”

  • ndy500fan

    Don’t believe everything you read. I highly doubt UMA calling will be available. If I had time, I would go through and point out everything that is wrong with their spec sheet. They didn’t even get the dimensions of the phone correct. Strangely enough, I seem to have all of the specs memorized after 5 months of reading (obsessing).

    • Matthew

      lol that’s funny. I also have the specs pretty down packed…

  • Steven

    Just viewed the HD2 video over at Letstalk and I was a little bummed that Tmobile didn’t have some custom animated background that matched the promotional materials from the box. This may be nitpicky but they should have some cool animation right out of the box showing off that giant screen. The black background makes it hard to tell where your screen real estate is. Maybe the guy at Letstalk changed it. Does anybody know if there is a site for downloading animated wallpapers for the HD2? Thanks and love this site. I check it every hour.

    • Luckout

      The T-Mobile HD2 in fact DOES come with animated wallpapers.
      I stopped by a Tmo store yesterday and played with the phone for a few.
      Sure enough animated wallpapers; gives you a great sense of the screen size.

      • ItsMichaelNotMike

        I had those on my Touch Pro2 running WinMo 6.5.1 and the HTC Sense shell.

        Those animated wallpapers are part of the HTC Sense UI (user interface). As I recall there were two of them and they are not that good at all. Boring they were.

        The other animated wallpaper is the weather. But that’s more a feature than a wallpaper. Animated weather is one of the coolest things about the HTC Sense UI and one of the main reasons I am looking forward to getting the HD2. Those two animated wallpapers I could care less about.

        I assume those are what you are talking about. Are they?

        Here’s the animated weather and HTC Sense:


    • ItsMichaelNotMike

      Steven, I think the animated weather is set to “on” straight out of the box. It’s quite striking when you turn on the phone with HTC Sense and the animated weather cruises past the screen when you first fire up the phone.

      I think you will like it and it’s fun when seeing it for the first time. If it’s raining you are really in for a treat.

      One time I was waiting in line at the post office and I had the animated weather playing. I was hold the phone so people behind me could see the screen. Everyone was staring at the Touch Pro2 wondering what the heck the phone was doing. And the guys who had their fancy pants smartphones all quietly put their phones away because mine looked so cool. And I could tell they wanted to ask what it was, but they did not want to appear impressed. It was a fine tech moment.


  • Phalosopher

    im thinking with the launch party next week on the 16th.. mayyyybeee it will be available for preorder on the 17th, which would be a week in advance of the 24 launch date for non and pre-existing customers..?! what ya think?

  • Matthew

    I will definitely be among the first to purchase this phone at my local T-Mobile store!

  • Phalosopher

    i think i will go back for my 3rd day in a row to play with this phone at my local tmobile store.. its truely sumtin special.. it flows sooo smooth and i cant wait to download skyfire out of the market on it.. i checked the marketplace for apps on it yesterday.. its got a good amount of apps(free too).. the landscape mode was in full effect on the browser and text messaging.. i dont think ive ever been this hype about a phone before.. oh and if anyone is interested theres a pretty good 19 piece package on ebay that i ordered and received on tuesday.. spare batter and all!

    • DavidB

      Careful with that spare battery. There’s no standard as to 3rd party battery labelling, and what your battery says is the Mah rating could be a complete pipe dream. I bought 2 generic spares for my G1 and neither of them would charge right, and when they showed full, I was lucky to get 2 hours out of each (OEM lasted about 12). I’m just sayin’…

    • Davidohio

      Haha you are like a heroin fiend lol. I know how you feel though, it is a nice device!

  • JT

    “LetsTalk” should get together w/T-mobile stores in Michigan and decide what line they want to give to customers. People on the East Coast are claiming to actually be playing with an HD2, LetsTalk is confirming the 24th as THE release date, and local T-mobile store is saying they’ve been told by T-mobile that, due to lack of supply, the 24th date is cancelled and they have not established a new date as of 10:30 A.M. eastern time today. I’ve been w/T-mobile for 5 years now but they’re starting to get as bad with their “teasing” info as the other guys. After 4 Nokia phones, I’ve sworn to never buy Nokia again after they jerked me & $700 of my money for over 2 months only to be told they had cancelled my N900 order (for the 3rd time) because their system suddenly decided I wasn’t legitimate and I could place a new order after 10 days and go to the back of the waiting list again…..why so we have to play all these games all the time just to rile up the consumer?

    • ndy500fan

      I just read this over at PPCGeeks: http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=108759&page=8

      * 3/11 Update* T-mobile issued an online training course for retail sales to familiarize with the phone and get to know the key features. My required date of completion is 4/10 so the rumor I have heard of the date being pushed back in some markets may be true as these trainings are supposed to be completed before release. Posted by: lwrdrchvy2

      I’m trying very hard to not get my hopes up for the 24th.

      • It’s funny you mention that, I have contacted both my local Tmo (retail) and Tmo Express (3rd party) stores and they have differing release dates. The express store is releasing the HD2 on the 17th, I have spoken to the manager and several employees who have confirmed. The Tmo retail store was not sure as to the release date and told me they were told in April but at soonest would be the 24th because that’s what their web site says. It could be true that in certain markets it may be released later, but I cannot understand why the 3rd party vendor can release earlier than the “official release date”. The difference between the two is funding, the express store cannot offer payment plans while the retail store can.

  • dj lu

    same freaking story over and over and over and over and over and over…………..
    T-MoBIle! just! release! the! freaking! phone! already!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!you BASTARDS!!!!!!! : )

  • Joe Pa

    All of these dates are purely speculative in my opinion, until T-Mobile issues a release date themselves……which I expect they will on the 16th.

    • dj lu

      thats what tmobile wants. Speculate!!! its kind of advertising without paying for it and at the same time pissing us off!!!

      • Joe Pa

        funny and sad at the same time….lol

  • Davidohio

    Fiends..all of you. Don’t get yourselves all worked up over speculation, its not worth your stress. Its only a smartphone. I want one bad too but I guess because I am older than most of you I have learned to be patient.

  • Kevin

    I just got back from the T-Mobile store. One of the reps had a live unit and that thing is a BEAST! I thought I would miss Android, but I don’t give a damn. It’s lightening fast and Transformers looked amazing as well! It has a big screen, but the device itself is not as big as I thought it would be. I can’t wait!!! HD2 FTMFW!

  • eYe

    Not to take away anything from HD2 as it sounds like it’s a truly amazing device and the best one in T-mo’s line up up to date but it sickens me how much attention it’s getting. I mean 3-4 posts a day with all the same stuff? C’mon, I almost wish we’d get the “Slow news days” again.

    • ndy500fan

      Beats the hell out of that day we had to look at the Nokia Nuron ALL DAY! Or worse yet, pretty much any Motorola phone. I honestly believe that whoever designed the Pontiac Aztec and the “Family Truckster” got a job at Motorola designing phones. At least the HD2 is pleasant to look at. Not to mention the fact that a lot of us have been looking forward to this release since that “evil” picture was posted by Tmonews back in October. https://www.tmonews.com/2009/10/htc-hd2/

    • ItsMichaelNotMike

      There’s that old joke:

      Patient: Doctor it hurts when I do this…

      Doctor: Then don’t do that.


      So either don’t read the posts or get a bottle of Pepto Bismol.

      And most important, don’t complain about the number of posts while adding to the number of posts with your post.

  • ctk

    i’m looking to replace my unlocked nokia 6555 (the battery runs out much quicker than when i first bought it). there are a lot of things that i have on that phone that i am unable to use because they are tied to a data plan and i still have not figured out a way to get the phone to access t-mo’s network instead of at&t’s.

    the one problem i see is that this phone is on a prepaid account and if i buy the phone retail i still may be forced to a contract which i don’t want to do as i don’t talk much. i may go for the neuron instead if i have to get a contract, which isn’t a bad step-down.

  • backdoorpost

    Can I get some clarity? Once wm7 comes out, will there be no more development of new apps for wm6…. indefinitely making this phone obsolete by the end of this year or the beginning of 2011. I know $450. is cheap for an awesome device, but realistically developers, in my opinion, are going to slow down on development if a completely different os is coming soon. Believe me, I want to get this phone but just worried about app support and other updates. Now if anybody has some info on running android on this via “roms or whatever their called” please tell me. I dont want android, BUT IF its still going to be an OS for years to come I will switch to android once WM6 is obsolete. ANYBODY, DAVID , HELP, I’m in need of guidance …… show me the light. lol

    • DotNetCoderAZ

      “Once wm7 comes out, will there be no more development of new apps for wm6…. indefinitely making this phone obsolete by the end of this year or the beginning of 2011.”

      As a developer of WinMo/Android apps:

      WinMo development will still continue for the 6.x series for at least another 5 years. WinMo 6.5 is going to be re-branded as Windows Mobile Starter Edition, so I don’t see development stopping anytime soon. To back this up, there are still companies doing active development for WinMo 5.

      What a lot of people fail to realize is that WinMo is still the second most prevalent mobile platform for enterprise (only slightly edged out by BlackBerry). Until that changes, WinMo development will continue to be strong.

      • backdoorpost

        thanks for both the responses. I was worried that us hd2 owners would be left in the dust. I would honestly keep this thing for about a year to a year and a half and sell it. Thanks again for the info… I guess ill be in line too. (now my next dilemma, WILL the grandfathered T-ZONES work with this phone.????) ha ha!!!!!!!!!

      • DotNetCoderAZ

        No problem. It’s a common question and as a developer, it’s one that I have gotten a lot since Microsoft announced WM7. In all reality, WM7 development is going to be slow and very targeted at first. There aren’t a lot of devs (that I know of) that are rushing to make WM7 apps (especially since the SDK is only being released under a strongly worded NDA).

        Once the SDK is fully released and we have an understanding of what we are working with, then you will see some dev shops start to develop apps. I think a major reason for waiting will be simply to see what the WM7 adoption rate is going to be. If predictions are to be believed, it’s going to be a slow ramp up when compared to the iPhone/Android operating system.

        “WILL the grandfathered T-ZONES work with this phone.????”
        Highly doubtful… Same thing with MyFaves (I believe both programs have been/are being phased out).

    • Halo

      Very Good Question! Anyone Have a answer ?

      I’m also worried about the Apps development since I have read that apps will be only made for WM7…So does that mean there is no more apps available for the HD2 from Microsoft Market Place after this year?

    • Bobomo

      Microsoft has committed to supporting WM6. There’s also a whole lot of these devices still out there. I’m sure most major developers will keep supporting these devices – although it’s probably safe to assume that they’ll start moving transitioning over the WP7.

      The thing is, WP7 isn’t even a thing yet. It won’t be out until this Christmas, and who knows how many phones it will be on? Assuming it has a similar adoption rate to Android (maybe a little higher) there might only be 5 phones by Q3 of 2011.

      The bottom line is, if you are looking at the HD2 as a 2 year investment, there’s plenty of life left in it. At the end you’ll probably have to find something new, but you’ll be able to get by.

      • DotNetCoderAZ

        “The thing is, WP7 isn’t even a thing yet. It won’t be out until this Christmas, and who knows how many phones it will be on? Assuming it has a similar adoption rate to Android (maybe a little higher) there might only be 5 phones by Q3 of 2011.”

        Couldn’t have put it better… I got a look at a preliminary NDA’d SDK and honestly, it is so sparse on details that devs can’t even really get started on anything as of yet.

        Plus, like I said above, predictions are that WM7 is going to have a pitifully slow adoption rate in the consumer sector and will be almost non-existent in the enterprise sector.

    • ItsMichaelNotMike

      Here is a post I put on another Site. I have modified it so not to appear I am criticizing you (it was a discussion on another site where I was retorting a number of assertions made by someone). But posting it here saves my having to retype it.

      I think it’s important for people to understand MS, it’s mobile OS strategies and where the HD2 fits into that. Bottom line: MS is not abandoning WinMo 6.x.x and intends to market the OS for years to come.

      Again, where I say “you” in the below, that is NOT meant to be addressing you.


      Your entire comment has been discussed for at least three months. Check Engadget, Boy Genius and other major sites.

      You apparently are not aware that MS has adopted a dual platform strategy (announced March 2009). There will be the WinMo 6.x.x platform and the Windows Phone 7 platform. Matter of fact, check my September 2009 posting talking about MS’s dual platform strategy.

      Your use of the word “outdated” is misplaced because in May 2009 the HD2 was NOT developed to be a WP7 phone. Simply put, the HD2 is a WinMo phone. It never has been and never will be a WP7S phone. So it’s NOT outdated and it will be a current offering when Windows Phones Series 7 superphones debut in November.

      On another front, you are in error when saying Windows Phone 7 will be replacing WinMo 6.x.x. In November WP7S phones will debut and they will be entirely different than the WinMo line of phones, including the HD2.

      In November customers will have a choice. They can buy the business oriented WinMo phones or select the multi-media consumer line of Windows Phones 7 Series phones.

      You apparently fall into that group of uninformed who have been going around the Net acting like you are in the know and authoritatively complaining that the HD2 won’t be receiving a WP7 upgrade, that is, the WP7 that is replacing WinMo.

      Your complaint is as absurd as complaining about buying a new car TODAY because the auto maker who manufactured your car is ADDING to its lineup an entirely new model in November. Said another way, we are talking about two different phones and platforms here. There’s no relation between WinMo 6.x.x devices and WP7S handsets. The only thing they have in common is that both OSs come from MS.

      As to the $450, your complaining about the HD2’s pricing does not take into account that the HD2 has been on the market for six months. T-Mo pricing reflects this and is in line with many smartphones currently available, where the technology is similar or the phone has been on the market for some time(e.g., Nexus One, Droid, BlackBerry 9700, myTouch, G1, Touch Pro2, Cliq, etc.)

      $199 for a phone of this quality is actually a bargain and $450 for it unsubsidized is a better deal than what Europeans have been paying.

      The HD2 is a great phone at a great price. Sure, anyone can wait, do without (or as you say “be patient”) and see what shakes loose in 8 months. I have no doubt anything electronic will be better, cheaper and cooler 8 months from now, especially when dealing with technology. Me, I prefer to buy the HD2 now and enjoy using it for the next 8 months.

      Sidenote: If you look around the Net you will see there’s lots of people who prefer a WinMo based device instead of gambling that WP7 will be all that MS says it is. In other words, many people do not think that the HD2, as you say, is outdated.

      Yes, the old WinCE kernel and the WinMo drop down menu interface is outdated, but IMHO HTC Sense and WinMo 6.5.x do a great job at “replacing” the old and stale WinMo user interface. In the end that is all that matters, the user experience. If a phone is cool looking, fun to use and has great functionality, no one gives a rip about who made the OS or the OS’s lineage.

      • beej

        Wow, great summary! Thanks for adding to this conversation. Awesome.

  • Lee

    @kevin +1 I agree 100%!!!!

    • ndy500fan

      @Lee You’re in Indy too, right? Have you found a store with a working model?

  • Ahh Yo!

    I hope that people will line-up and buy this phone. Not because of awesome look but to crush AT&T and put some fear in Apple. Verizon’s a joke, so I have nothing to say about them.

  • Lee

    I am in Indy, I wish I did know where I could go to see this baby in person! I was agreeing with kevin about the android and HD2 FTMFW!!! comment, Lol. If you find a place let me know please. I am wondering if there is going to be lines here in Indy on launch?

  • harvey

    sold my cliq for 300 bucks yesterday, and bought a 30 nokia from target, to use until the 24th, just in anticipation for this phone(i was surprised that my phone sold so quickly on Craigslist)!!!! :) vacationing in jamaica the following month, guess who will watching movies on their pimp – ass,new phone!!

    I am not techno nerd, just like nice things and this girl is a sexy beast…

    • beej

      $300 for your Cliq? Nice work! I’ll be selling my g1, btu I really want to make sure that the timing’s right…

      • ItsMichaelNotMike

        When selling tech the timing is usually “immediately if not sooner.” Get that G1 listed NOW.

        The key is to getting some HD2 money is to sell your phone while it is still expensive on T-Mo’s site. This is because you set your selling price in conjunction with what T-Mo is asking on the Net.

        You need to sell the G1 while T-Mo is still asking $369 for it. If you delay the danger is that T-Mo might lower the price for the G1. If it does, you will have to lower your price.


        Based on a $369 unsubsidized price a used G1 on eBay or elsewhere is worth about $200 — maybe $250 on a lucky day and if your G1 has the box, all paperwork, is in mint condition and you are tossing in some accessories like a case and a 2GB chip.

      • beej

        I totally agree! Thansk for the hint. I’ll be digging out my old dash and rocking that until the HD2 comes out! OMFG I can’t wait!

  • I really am happy about the HD2 and I know a lot of you are super excited about it as well…

    But what about news on phones other than the HD2? Any news of some high powered phones with a qwert keyboard being released for WM or Android in the near future?

    I hope everyone that wants an HD2 gets it and it’s all that they are hoping for plus more…

  • Wilma Flintstone

    I’ll be first in line at the Flat Shoals Maggy Store near Candler RD in Atlanta. only 13 more days. But I can wait because I have been busy with Monster Hunter 3 demo, Tatsunoko vs Capcom and other things. So, March 24th, if it comes out then great, if earlier, great, if later then that’s fine with me too.

    Also, Thanks David for the Info on the Dell Mini 5. Hopefully Maggy gets it and I can buy it, if not, I’ll just get it unlocked provided it supports Maggy’s 3G bands. That’s rather disturbing news about the X10. I was going to get the X10 but I haven’t heard anything about it since the rumor that a Canadian company was supposed to get it.

  • gargoyle999

    Letstalk.com now shows the HD2 as “coming soon”.

    • gargoyle999

      Looks like the coming soon was there before. But now they have removed the specific release date.

      • ItsMichaelNotMike

        Who knows what goes on in the background between a vendor and T-Mobile.

        We can only guess, but maybe T-Mo felt that disclosing the launch date was a no no and asked (demanded) LetsTalk to take it down.

        There’s too many people saying the 24th for that not to be the date. But from past observations, T-Mo likes to keep everything quiet and to release information on its terms.

        I prefer early disclosure of all details. Assuming everyone likes to emulate Apple/Jobs, in January they should have announced the HD2, its pricing and the debut date, not one week before its launch.

      • gargoyle999

        Hopefully one week before the launch! ;)

      • DavidB

        Only one problem with the Apple/Jobs comparison – no other company nor head of company is held in such divine reverence as Apple and Jobs. Apple is as revered as a religion and Jobs is their Deity.

  • chicago081

    I think I will get the new HTC HD2. Anything beats my Motorola RAZR I am using now. Anything will beat this old outdated phone.

    • gargoyle999

      That’s funny. My wife usually gets my hand me down phones and currently has my Razr that is 3 years old. She decided she has to have a keyboard and Windows Mobile to sync with work so she just got a Touch Pro 2 even though I tried to steer her towards an HD2 like I’m getting.

  • chicago081

    My Razr phone is six years old. Time to update to the HTC HD2. Sounds like a nice, exciting phone. Does anyone believe that any phone will ever be the Apple I Phone killer, I don’t think any phone will ever kill it. They have a million aps for that thing.

  • McButterBoo

    Glad to see someone else from Chi-town. Yeah, the iPhone is a hard one to beat but for a lot of people in this world, the iPhone isn’t a personal preference. To a lot of people the iPhone is a trend that they wish to follow. There’s really no reason to have an “iPhone killer” because a lot of equally good phones are being, and have been, made.