Microsoft Lumia 640 pulled from T-Mobile’s online shelves

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Just a little more than two months after its launch at T-Mobile, the Microsoft Lumia 640 has disappeared from Magenta’s shelves.

T-Mobile has confirmed that it’s no longer selling the Lumia 640 online, explaining that its “stock/inventory changes based on the demands for particular phones.” Indeed, the 640 is no longer available from T-Mobile’s online store, leaving the Certified Pre-Owned Lumia 635 the lone Windows Phone device there.

It’s understandable that T-Mobile would pull a device from its digital shelves based on demand. After all, it wouldn’t be smart for T-Mo to continue to stock a phone that isn’t selling. I’m sure that there are some folks that are disappointed about this news, though, since T-Mobile is now selling one Windows Phone device that’s a bit old. The good news is that you can still get T-Mo’s Lumia 640 from Walmart if you want it.

Here’s to hoping that Microsoft’s upcoming Cityman and Talkman make their way to T-Mobile.

Via: Windows Central
Source: T-Mobile

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  • besweeet

    I’m actually surprised it lasted this long. It’s a great, affordable phone that may have been cannibalizing some of their other similarly-priced phones, due to how great it was.

    But $99.76 from Walmart is still fantastic.

    • Steve Griffin

      So you can get the 640 @WalMart for 100 bucks?

      • besweeet

        Yup. My dad bought one at a local Walmart last week. Couldn’t be any happier. It’s genuinely a steal at its price.

      • Marshall

        Yup! Gonna pick one up myself to use as a backup. My Lumia 1520 is on the Windows10 tech preview.

        • Steve Griffin

          I think I’ll go pick one up this weekend. I was holding out for a 940 that I heard about. I’m still good with my 925 but for the price, like a sore Peter, you can’t beat it……..lol

        • Marshall

          Hey Steve! Check eBay or Best Buy first. I have seen some great deals tonight from both online.

        • Steve Griffin

          Thanks Marshall, I’ll check into that.

    • Marshall

      100 or less for that baby is a deal!

  • kgraham182

    I know when I bought this phone at MetroPCS for $40, T Mobile wouldn’t be supporting/carrying it for very long. Who in there right mind would buy this phone direct from T-Mobile when MetroPCS, AT&T, Cricket, BrandsmartUSA, Bestbuy WalMart, hell even Microsoft store sells it cheaper. Not only that this was once again a T Mobile Windows Phone bring sold online only at full price plus you have to buy a SIM card which should be included.

  • Ordeith

    T-Mobile can’t support a phone to save their lives.

  • Mike E. Delta

    DAMMIT, I just didn’t have the money right now, I still want it tho… AAAARRRRRGGGHHHH! >=[

    • jakematic

      You can get an unlocked one from B&H Photo

  • Will

    Maybe it didn’t pass T-Mobile’s new VoLTE certification?

    • kgraham182

      VoLTE works on this phone, this is just T-Mobile being T-Mobile. Business as usual

      • Ordeith

        a good performing quad core LTE and VoLTE phone for ~$100.
        The conspiracy theorist in me thinks T-Mobile’s tepid response and short support was to limit this little wonder from cannibalizing sales of much more expensive phones that it outclasses.
        and since it doesn’t run Android, Google may have had a hand in the convincing.

        • kgraham182

          I agree. There’s no way the demand for this phone is low, when Windows Central just posted an article last week saying the 640 is the 2nd most popular WP behind the 520. All WPs (HTC One M8 thinking of you) are set up for failure on the T-Mobile network. How can you promote a phone in-store if it’s only sold online at full price when AT&T 640 gophones can be bought for $79 and unlocked for free.
          #EstablishCoverageLOL

        • Bklynman

          Unlocked for free? AT&T,will unlocked a gophone for free? If that’s true,never knew they did that.

        • kgraham182

          Yes, free within 2-3 days. A law was passed last year https://www.fcc.gov/device-unlocking-faq

        • Will

          Yes I have had AT&T unlock many Nokia phones including the 635 GoPhone that I bought for $30 during Black Friday.

        • jay_max

          I’m kind of with you on this theory. On the flipside, TMO can’t complain about poor sales when it wasn’t available in the stores and they did absolutely nothing to promote it. If they promo’d it half as much as the crap Android tablets they’re giving away with new data service, they’d have sold a ton.

  • Gary Kennedy

    You know I think that the 640 is a great phone for the price, battery life sucks but still a very good phone. I just upgraded to an unlocked 640XL AT&T which has much better battery life and the bigger screen :).

    • Jay J. Blanco

      The most I got 4 days out the 640. On average 2 days

    • Nogitsune

      Well I would hope the battery life is better on the XL…it is like double the capacity of the 640s lol

  • Wyn6

    Let’s just hope they carry BOTH of the new flagship devices plus the mid-rangers. My thoughts are, if you carried more than one or two Windows devices at any given time, and they weren’t placed in a dark, cobwebbed corner, manned by Igor, you might actually sell a lot more.
    Just imagine a well-lit, prominently placed display with the Surface 3 LTE, both Windows Flagship devices, and one or two mid/low end devices, AND all these devices were actually powered on and worked. Oh. And, sales people that actually have some knowledge on these devices. Just imagine.

    • Marshall

      Many stores in the past year have”displayed” them in back corners or in the middle of accessories where the sales persons who have little if any knowledge about Windows phones hang out shooting the breeze twirling their keys. I see it to often.

  • ken klapper

    i still wonder why Windows phones are on the market. The hardware is only as good as its software. T-mobile is smart. Eventually they won’t have any LUMIA phones coz no one wants them.

    • Ordeith

      “The hardware is only as good as its software.”
      That does explain why most Android phones are absolute junk and most Windows Phones are pretty great, even the cheap ones.

      • 3165dwayne

        heh…it depends heavily upon which manufacturer you decide to go with. For a cheap Android phone in the $200 price range you can’t go wrong with picking up devices from Motorola or Asus for instance. It just shows that many of these OEMs that are mucking up Android have no idea of what they’re doing. What I will also say is that Windows Phone definitely wins at the extremely low end of the market. But once you step into the $200 range the Android phones are extremely competitive.

    • Steve Griffin

      Ken you don’t really know any better. The WP is the most practical OS on the market. Most people don’t get it because there used to what they know ICONS! Not practical for a phone, LIVE TILES makes the phone experience come alive. Yes lack of apps is the downside but, these days their are plenty of apps to keep me satisfied.

      • 3165dwayne

        I like windows phones and I would love to get my hands on another 1520 soon but I also know of windows phone’s limitations. the tiles aren’t better than widgets for instance. you can’t interact with them as you can with widgets. The available browsers are only slightly different from internet explorer as well. The app problem is also very real. Many popular apps that people love to use just aren’t on the platform. They apps that YOU want are there but many other users will feel left out when they can’t use the same apps that everyone else is using.

        • Marshall

          I think you are thinking of a different phone Dwayne. Live tiles are as interactive if not More than any widgets. It’s one of the reasons Windows stands out and alone. In fact, you don’t even need to interact with the apps as the information you need is in front of you. Just only need to glimpse over at it. Plus a phone with “Hey Cortana”, it’s even better! The Denim version pulled everything together and the browser is much faster. Although the new “Edge”, still in beta on mobile, is buggy, it will be as good as it’s pc version.

        • 3165dwayne

          Lol, no, I have many years of experience with windows phone. Phones are kind of my hobby. Let’s say I have a music widget on an Android phone and a live tile widget on a Windows phone. On my music widget I can flip through songs, rewind and pause and see what’s next if I want. On windows phone I can’t do that. I have to open the app which might not be on the music control section to skip tracks and so forth. Let’s say that I want to look at an email and let’s say that the email has a lot of text in it. On an Android phone like the s6 or LG g4 or note I can read the email while responding to all the key points by using the split screen feature. I don’t have that choice on windows phone. I would have to keep flipping back and forth between the apps. I like windows phones fluidity but I like Androids many features and flavors. They can both learn from each other.

        • Don’t worry, “Interactive Live Tiles” are coming, and have been planned for awhile. Then you’ll be able to play, pause, skip, or whatever else on the Live Tile.

        • 3165dwayne

          Let’s hope so. I’ll get another windows phone device to keep watching the progress. My 1520 could keep up with my G4 somewhat despite the 1520 being 3 generations behind with less RAM. I have to say that the smartphone industry has changed quite drastically. The market share was divided a little better 10 years ago. I like Android but it is too dominant right now and I feel that Google is becoming complacent. Not as bad as Microsoft did with windows mobile but close enough. There needs to be more major players.

    • Marshall

      Because they are great phones! When folks get over this obsession over apps and silly features that serve little purpose in day-to-day life, they will be hungry for a serious productive work phone. I have had all the phones and Windows gets to the point of having a mobile device designed to make your day easier. If you have never tried the latest Windows, don’t mock them. Pick up an inexpensive version and take it for a spin. Just keep in mind that high end phones are like a hand held tablet and much more powerful than the low end versions.

      • Steve Griffin

        You got it right Marshall. WP is the simplest and easiest phone to operate. I believe people latched on to Android because it reminds them of their Windows 7 computer and since a mass majority doesn’t like change it prospered. Android’s marketing was much better than WP, therefore people want what their friends have, some just don’t care. Besides the me not liking the ICONS, the white background I also hate. The black background on WP is great along with the fluid movement of the tiles. I’d rather fight than switch!

    • Acdc1a

      The 640 is a great phone. I do miss the apps from Android which is why I can never stick with a Windows Phone device. Specifically my bank doesn’t have an app, so no photo deposits.

      • Cornelius Hardy

        my bank capitalone360 doesn’t have a app either but if I log in under desktop mode I can upload a picture just like a computer. I love windows phone. I have an android phone too just for the uber driver app. That’s all it’s good for.

        • That sounds horrible

        • Acdc1a

          Unless someone knows a way to trick the site at PNC, I can’t trick the system past the home page. It always goes to mobile from my phone…even when I do this on my Android phone.

          I shouldn’t need a work around to conduct business.

      • Pin the mobile site to your Start Screen and log in there. The mobile apps are largely the mobile site with wrappers anyway.

    • Nogitsune

      I say the same thing about Chromebooks and Macs….actually I don’t because I understand despite selling significantly less than Windows computers, Chromebooks have their place and Macs have theirs despite neither interesting me. By that logic no one wants a Chromebook just because it isn’t outselling Windows and nobody wants a Mac, since it is not outselling windows.

      • Ordeith

        Chromebooks aren’t even outselling Macs, though.. if that changes anything.

        • Anthony S Jennings

          No Mac comes with built in 4G. My Chromebook does.

    • Deihmos

      I think sooner or later Microsoft will pull the plug. All their apps are on other platforms so what’s the point of getting a windows phone? To be limited by the apps they have available?

      • IamDefiler

        The UI. Plain and simple.

        • Deihmos

          Too bad it isn’t working. The masses don’t care about the UI. I honestly don’t see anything special about it either.

        • IamDefiler

          I agree. It is too bad it isn’t working. I feel it is a better UI, IMO. I’ve used both WP and Android extensively (currently on an 6 edge running Nova Launcher with a number of custom made Zooper widgets, etc.) and I miss the WP interface. I don’t know if you have used WP extensively but it would be worth a try to see if it works for you.

    • Atlic

      Have you ever used one?

  • Angel

    Well it may not be selling on T-mo stores but on Walmart is. Wonder why? Lets see $180 at Tmo, $100 on Walmart. My sister got one, and twice they were sold out so it was selling, at least there.

  • Cornelius Hardy

    I tried to order one twice at t-mobile and it was unavailable. Since then, I’ve picked up 3 from WalMart. They should have sold them in stores like all these iPhones and galaxys. No right to complain about selling.

  • Harp

    This is crap. How come they have BlackBerry. There has to be another reason behind it.

  • Landly Emptagr

    I love my Lumia 640. It’s the best phone I’ve owned, and I’ve had EVERYTHING.

  • fencepost

    I just upgraded mine to the Windows 10 technical preview (it’s a multi-step process, first to an older Win10, then it’ll upgrade later to 10512). I haven’t gone through the steps to load any of my Android apps onto it yet, but I’m looking at doing that for a few apps to see what will work.

    If I can use Android versions of key apps, or if the easier porting that MS has been working on catches on with app developers it’ll go a LONG way to addressing the “it’s got no apps!” weakness of Windows Phone.

    • 3165dwayne

      It didn’t work that way for BlackBerry and now we are seeing the BlackBerry Venice. Microsoft has to tell the consumers that they’ve got Android apps while still showing how a windows phone is better than an Android phone. The process I’ve seen to get Android apps working on windows phone is tedious to say the least from an average Joe stand point. Blackberry’s solution (Amazon AppStore) is much better than what I’ve seen from Microsoft and yet BlackBerry is struggling to stay alive. I’m not sure Microsoft has a good answer right now. I want them to become a strong contender with at least 30% market share since I like competition but I’m not sure if converting Android Apps is enough.

      • Ordeith

        There’s Android Apps (which devs can list directly in the Windows Store).
        There’s also iOS Apps (same thing with the store).
        There’s also Windows Apps (some very good ones, too).
        And there’s continuum to make those apps shine.
        WP could have the best of everyone’s world with a quickness if they could get more than a few consumers to take an interest.

        • 3165dwayne

          If that’s true then they need to get the devs to just list the apps in the store. It’s far more exposure so I hope the devs just do it. Their apps can just get listed in the store without any need of conversion. Sounds good but what about Google Play services?

        • Ordeith

          Microsoft is providing a shim for Google’s controlling and proprietary kludge of GMS. GMS functions (should devs be stupid enough to buy into using them) will map to WP and Bing equivalents so functionality won’t be broken.

      • fencepost

        Sure, right now it’s an incredibly tedious process, and AFAIK it doesn’t work with paid apps. That’s the current technical preview stage though, not the release stage.

  • AS118

    They may bring it back, but if they don’t, I won’t be shocked. Windows phones just don’t have the kind of app support that people need for work or play. Same thing with Blackbery too, honestly.

  • Philip

    I think Microsoft should get out of Mobile phone business. There are just too much competition in Android right. Their buying of Nokia is their worst business decisions.

    • eanfoso

      Not all of us want lagdroid, and ultimately competition is what drives innovation, less phones out means more of the same, hence companies like samesung make profit.

      • Exactly!

      • 3165dwayne

        “Samesung”? You sound like a fanboy. Samsung changed up their line quite drastically this year while giving their phones a distinctive look. I don’t particularly like Samsung but they have made a considerable amount of design improvements and changes so your “Samesung” insult doesn’t make any sense at all. My 1520 also stuttered here and there but not any more or less than nexus devices. All your post did was show a heavily biased, stale and jaded view point. If you want to bash Samsung do it right at least and point out a more current flaw such as there memory management issue.

        • He’s correct, unfortunately. With the exception of the SoC and the designs, everything else with Samsung Galaxies is the same. Why else are smartphone sales declining in the States?

        • 3165dwayne

          Save for new design, SoC, faster RAM and UFS 2.0 (Storage)and improvements in the Android OS and Samsung’s touch wiz? That’s a lot of differences right there. He called the company Samesung which is a name that originated from Samsung not changing the design of their phones much. He was wrong and you missed the point completely. Business 101 is why sales are declining in the U.S. common sense, in action right here. Why do you think they are so vigorously attacking markets such as India? First World markets are pretty much saturated is the answer. That’s pretty obvious. After processors like the S4 pro many consumers just don’t see the point in upgrading for a while. This is doubly true for windows phone users. Although they really don’t have a choice being that there hasn’t been any new high end hardware in a while. Many people are still happy with the Galaxy S4. Even though I had a 1520 I didn’t see the point in getting an HTC One M8 though it had a faster and improved SoC. People are happy with what they’ve got…saturated market. The solution is to find new markets. That’s why Google started Android one and Microsoft better get themselves in gear if they don’t want to lose more markets.

        • 80sGuy

          Samsung is desperate. They wanted to copy and emulate Apple. Epic Fail!!!!

    • itguy08

      They will soon enough and the POS known as Windows Phone will join the Kin and Bob in the ANALs of history.

      • I hope not! An IOS/Android duopoly is even WORSE than an AT&T/Verizon duopoly.

        • itguy08

          We don’t need Microsoft ruining another industry. They ruined the PC industry and everything else they touch.

        • Plenty of other people would say that Sprint, T-Mobile and US Cellular has done the same thing you said in the mobile carrier industry. And it’s Apple and Google ruining the smartphone industry now, tyvm.

        • itguy08

          Well, I’ve been around IT since the 80s, before MS had their hand in “everything” and it truly was better then. Much better technologies got forgotten about once MS got in the game. They were convicted in the USA and Europe of illegally tying things and forcing their wares on companies and consumers. And contrary to the BS speed in the tech press, Microsoft has not changed.

          Neither of those companies are doing those things.

        • Actually, Apple is doing the same thing MS did over three decades ago. Look around social media, people are tweeting evidence of Apple’s anti-competitive behavior.

        • itguy08

          Nothing comparable….Apple didn’t use their OS to require their browser. They didn’t prohibit boot time choices when you bought a new PC (that killed BeOS, OS2, et). They don’t require that every PC sold paid for Windows regardless of if it had it or not.

          They didn’t tie their Office software to other stuff to squeeze out competition. Ie: Give you the CAL to Exchange but make you pay for the server. Or threaten you with BSA audits if you didn’t take their terms.

          It’s not even close. Read the antitrust documents some time. MS was far more anti competitive than Apple is. Not to mention “social media” is 90% BS and 10% truth.

        • You’re right. Because what Apple is doing now is even WORSE than what Microsoft was found guilty of in my toddler years.

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        • itguy08

          What are they doing? They designed something that was never seen before. got the patents and are defending those. Blackberry did the same thing with the physical keyboard patents.

          Apple invented/perfected/whateve a new way to interact (pinch to zoom) and has every right to defend those patents.

        • Apple is fining carriers for not meeting sales quotas, something that neither Google nor Microsoft does. That’s just the beginning of their anti-competitive actions.

        • itguy08

          Source please. Cause that is ridiculous. Now if they signed a contract that says we will order x phones and actually order y then they violated that contract. Simple business.

        • Windows Central, where commenters are pointing this out.

        • 80sGuy

          You want me to sell your phone, and then impose a fine on me for not meeting enough quota in sales??? That is a crock load of b.s.!

        • But… That’s exactly what Apple is doing – fining carriers for not meeting sales quotas. There have been pieces about that in recent years.

        • Ordeith

          and then there’s ChromeOS…

        • Ordeith

          Wow. you’re pretty blind.

        • 3165dwayne

          Exactly. The problem is that we are dealing with fanboys here. Microsoft didn’t change, they are just at a disadvantage in the current market. Windows phone is a pretty good OS but many of these guys have completely forgotten how companies like Motorola begged Microsoft to improve windows mobile and Microsoft’s answer was simply, “meh….” until it was too late. Steve Balmer even laughed at the iPhone. At it’s peak windows mobile enjoyed about 40% market share. They did what they normally do and became complacent and got hammered. What I’ve observed with Google that is different from Microsoft is that they are actually improving Android, something Microsoft didn’t do to Windows Mobile so it is going to be much harder to dethrone them.

        • Ordeith

          Google is the destroyer of industries. They haven’t met a market they didn’t want to manipulate and control.

    • Not surprised that you want an uncompetitive duopoly. That’s the very last thing we need in the States.

    • 3165dwayne

      Not a good thing, man. If anything we need one more player. Back in the day there was Palm OS, Blackberry, windows mobile, Symbian and Danger OS. They were also all major players. It was far more exciting then and there were a lot of different form factors. With just iOS and Android it has become a snooze fest. This wasn’t even Google’s original plan. Even they wanted diversity even though they intended it to be within there own platform. We need more players to stir things up.

  • jamssx1

    It was very strange for a budget phone, they only sold it online (not in stores) and everyone else online was selling it for at least $30 less I’m surprised they sold any. What part of budget did their guy that sets online pricing not get?

    • JonBarros

      Your right. You can get the same phone at fry’s for 79. It seems pretty dumb to expect people to pay more on top of not being able to see the phone before you buy it.

      • Fact is, all the carriers want what’s popular, not what’s secure. Apple and Google phones have worse security than Windows desktop OSes.

  • Nick Ramacciato

    Ridiculous. So much for an “un-carrier” providing diversity and choice.

    • Exactly. I’m just about to explore other options now, which could include leaving T-Mobile when the Lumia flagship phones come out.

  • Les

    WoW! this phone is so much better than the 635 and is a lot better than any sub $100 Android phone. I had just picked one up at Wal-Mart this weekend getting them to match Fry’s price at $79.99. It has HD Voice and NFC, etc. They are actually hard to find in stock and I got the last one at the Wal-Mart I was in. I really like Android the best, but the 635 at $60 with LTE was too good to pass up and the 640 blows it away at $80. What Android phone can you get with Band12-700MHz/Band4-1700MHz/Band2-1900MHz LTE with WiFi calling, NFC, removable battery, accepts 128GB flash cards and a 5 inch screen for $80. I don’t think the Samsung Avant or Core Prime, or Grand Prime are near as good as the 640.

  • notyourbusiness

    I noticed this sometime last week and quite frankly think it’s BS. The 640 was getting really good reviews on T-Mobile’s site when it was still listed up there, plus it’s already the second best selling Windows Phone since the 635, so what gives? It’s not like it’s not selling. However, T-Mo was lame enough to not carry it in their precious stores. It’s like they’re trying to make the phone fail. I’m getting the iPhone 6s when it’s released, but regardless, I’m still a huge fan of Windows Phone and find the whole tactic of not even carrying this phone in stores total BS.

  • Gary M

    I went to a store to purchase the phone yesterday and the rep told me that the Lumia 640 was being returned by customers, due to an error caused by the accessibilty settings set by certain users, and microsoft servers having an internal conflict with the configuration of the users phones.

    • 80sGuy

      Then they should have a bunch of ‘certified pre-owned’ or ‘refurbished’ stock but nothing unlike some used 635 still selling.

  • badtz

    I’ll be taking my five lines and years of loyal service to AT&T when the 950’s arrive. I have 4 640’s for my family now, and seeing how T-Mo’s been so Un-Friendly to Window’s phones, it’s time to go.

  • jz100

    They probably are trying to force people to buy one of their overpriced phones. My Lumia 640 has clearer and louder voice quality than two other phones that I own which cost a lot more.

  • jz100

    My Lumia 640 also has better battery life than any of my android phones do. Android gets worse battery life with every update.

  • wang

    really? LUMIA 640 is one of the best phones under $100 price. HD5INCH, 128G SD CARD support. 1G RAM.

    • 80sGuy

      Removable Battery and micro-SD card expandable to 128GB!

  • 80sGuy

    Been a T-Mobile customer for more than 10 years and they sent me a Lumia 640 at no cost (as a courtesy) and I really love the device. I am puzzled as to why they just halt the inventory so suddenly. Though I still see some used 635 listed for sell on the website.

    • Les

      I’ve been with T-Mobile since PowerTel days, I wish they would give me a free Lumia 640. I wonder if they have any left.

      • 80sGuy

        You just have to call them (persistently) and talk to ‘retention’ nicely. Last year, I got the iPhone 5c for free and a month later the 5s for $40. Loving the Lumia but doubt they have any left since it is no longer posted on their site.

  • 80sGuy

    Supposedly Microsoft will be releasing two high-end Windows Phone by fiscal year 2015. Wondered how they’re going to hold up with all the criticisms.

    • Les

      Supposedly the 950 and 950XL will be released soon.

  • Main Line Wireless

    This is a great phone. By far the best value for the money. And since every phone is always
    more expensive from T-Mobile who cares? It’s $99.76 plus tax with free shipping from walmart,com packaged as a T-Mobile Simply Prepaid phone. And better yet you can get the same T-Mobile service and features with better rates from MetroPCS. The only prepaid carrier that includes mobile hotspot and wifi calling. Same as a T-Mobile postpaid plan. The only plan that doesn’t include hotspot is the entry level 1 GB LTE plan for $30.00/month. But it’s only a $5.00 option and you get 1 GB dedicated directly to hotspot. So double your LTE for $5.00. Even at $35.00 it’s a better deal then antyhing from T-Mobile or any other prepaid carrier. And the final phone price is a ridiculous $39.00. But it’s in store only. I’m disabled and bought mine on eBay brand new.They keep coming down. i paid like $79.99. The T-Mobile/MetroPCS phone comes with the rear cover in white. Cricket sells the cyan coior (blue). Just recently both AT&T and Walmart now sell the AT&T version with the rear cover in black as prepaid Go Phone only for an even better price of $79.99. Side by side on walmart.com the same phone from T-Mobile is $20.00 more. And the 640 XL on AT&T as a postpaid phone is a ridiculous $249.99. At 5.7″ even I can’t hold it with one hand. It’s bigger then an iPhone 6 Plus. Even the 5″ screen of the 640 is bigger then the 4.7″ of the iPhone 6. It’s awesome and ridiculous they cut it. Their best phone was the least expensive LTE phone on their website.