Android 5.0 update for T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 finally in testing

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Since its launch, the T-Mobile software updates progress tracker has been an incredibly useful tool. That is – of course – unless you happen to be a Galaxy Note 4 owner. T-Mobile’s flagship phablet owners have been forced to watch as other, seemingly less important devices (Note 3 anyone?) get blessed with Android’s “sweetest update yet”. Until now, the Note 4 was shown as having Android 5.0 under “manufacturer development” which essentially means the two companies – Samsung and T-Mobile – have agreed to support Lollipop.

Thankfully, that’s changed. Head on over to the Software Updates page and you’ll see the Note 4 software is finally under “T-Mobile Testing”. This means the smartphone is going “through T-Mobile certification process testing to make sure you get the best quality software possible.”

How long it will be until the update becomes a reality and is available to download is unknown. It could be weeks away yet. Nevertheless, it’s nice to finally see some progress. Note 4 owners: You aren’t being ignored. Now let’s hope the software refresh comes sooner, rather than later.

Unrelated side note: If it makes you guys feel any better, I haven’t had my Android 5.0 update for the Note 4 on this side of the pond either. So we’re all in the same boat. Sort of.

Thanks for spotting it, Rick and Juan.

Source: T-Mobile

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  • hanfeedback

    Wonder if this version will have the memory leaks fixed…..

    • Joe

      Probably not cuz that is an android issue witch will only be fixed in 5.1.1 which is not even out on nexus devices. So there sadly will be quit some time till that (2 months at best) :(

    • Faslane

      prob not unless they go straight to 5.1

      • Joe

        You mean 5.1.1 which is not out yet? 5.1 still has the memory leak problem.

        • Faslane

          Read on it, I read an article where they say they fixed it unless the article was wrong, who knows. So If you’r right +1

          Fas

        • Joe

          Yeah I don’t think they fixed it cuz I read in a number of articles that 5.1 still has the problem. And I read in other articles saying that google has fixed the problem in 5.1.1 which should be released by the end of this week or next week.

  • Wicked Mainah Bub

    Hoping for the Note edge will follow suit

    • Cam Bunton

      Oddly, it’s still in “Manufacturer Development.”

      • superg05

        there was only a software difference so hopefully it will be short

      • Wicked Mainah Bub

        Yeah, I’ve been checking it daily, plus I work for Tmob customer.

  • benny

    It reminds us to not buy carrier phones if you care about update speed again and again.

    • JLV90

      Except Samsung doesn’t sell non-carrier branded phones that have US LTE access.

      • EffortLess

        Actually the N910F (snapdragon) and N910C (exynos) both have US LTE. They’re missing the 1700 GSM band for 3G US but most areas have switched to 1900 in populated cities anyway. They also don’t have the band 12 700mhz band (which is only deployed in a handful of places), but 95% of the time they run on LTE just fine in an LTE area.
        They also cover the AT&T bands 100%. Best part is they are $585 and get the latest updates right away. Already had several Lollipop updates.

  • Joe

    Finally! T-Mobile really dropped the ball with Lollipop and the Note 4. :

  • Rirruto

    Wonder why the Galaxy S4 isn’t even listed on the T-Mo site. AT&T version got Lollipop yesterday.

    • Joe

      Yeah I really hope they don’t f*** people over like they did with the s3.

      • gmo8492

        Yeah the GS3 lived with jellybean and died with jellybean.

        • Joe

          Yup and all the other carriers updated it to Kitkat very disappointing.

  • Willie D

    But LG G2 owners like me are being ignored. A device capable of VoLTE, TMo refuses to answer if it is a feature that will be enabled. AT&T and Verizon support VoLTE on it, so should TMo. When I ask the question, I get no response, but if I ask how is Android 5.0 coming along with the device I’m told with enthusiasn to see the new support page they have and how excited they are. Gimme a break. Just update my phone JUMP!!

    • Joe

      Yeah I really hope t-mobile stops this bs and updates all VoLTE capable headsets to be able to use it cuz this is the one very carrier like thing that they have bin doing for some time and i’m sick of it. PLZ stand up to your uncarrier name t-mobile

    • Guest

      G2 is getting Lollipop.

  • Faslane

    FINALLY???? in testing? Good lord, release the f-ing thing already!!! Tmobile is the LAST to release it and MANY older devices have had it for a month and it was just released on the S4 as well. Tmobile is lacking on this bigtime. What’s to test????

    • You don’t want this update!

      Well, apparently one thing they DONT test is battery performance. My Note 3 would last all day on Kit Kat…. Lollipop KILLS IT. I can take my phone off the charger now at 100%… within 30 minutes my battery will be down to 85%… with no usage other than it being on standby in my pocket.

      • DontMindWaiting.

        Thats what I am hearing too. I don’t think I want it.

      • Fuuuuuuuuu

        Fortunately, the Note 4 isn’t the Note 3.

        • dkbnyc

          It’s the same on the Note 4’s that have gotten the update. Be careful what you ask for.

    • Android_God

      Are you ok?

      • Faslane

        Totally fine, already running TW Lollipop just fine ;-)

  • gmo8492

    I heard that Verizon has already released the lollipop update on the Note 4.

    • MHPhan

      well, to be fair, they have no wifi calling to implement.

  • Cant Please any o these morons

    Let the countdown begin…. a bunch of baby’s bitching that its not out yet. YET when it is released and sucks? Those SAME baby’s will be bitching about how it wasn’t tested enough and how dare T-Mobile release such a crappy update that trashed my awesome device?

  • Mad About 5.0 updates

    Well this is great and so Only Poland get to have 5.0 on the Note2, I was hoping this roll out would happen alot faster and hit more devices

    • Zek

      I’m still sporting a Note 2 as well… Samsung still owes us one more update since they or T-Mobile skipped 4.4 for us. We’ve been using 4.3 for sometime and 4.4 was well within the 2 years mark and we didn’t get it. I have little faith in Samsung as far as updates go. I told myself I would not get another Samsung device since I do like what the new updates bring to Android. 5.0 on the Note 2 might change my view on Samsung, but for now… I’m looking towards Nexus devices or even the Motorola Branch.

      • superg05

        twitter @JohnLegere

  • Android_God

    What about the Motorola Cliq?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?

    • AA-Ron

      Or my tmobile sidekick 4G

  • Android_God

    BOOM!!! Downloading now via Samsung Kies!

    • Marcus Rose

      No you’re not!

      • Android_God

        Ya I am!!!!!!!!

    • TEKHD

      You are joking… impossible…

      • Android_God

        Why would I joke about such a source of RAGE?!?!?!?!?

        • TEKHD

          I am downloading it via iTunes…

        • Android_God

          There you go!!!

        • Joe

          It’s all about Windows Media Player 25.7.9

    • Fuuuuuuuuu

      Obvious troll is obvious.

      • Android_God

        It’s hard to be original these days, so I get why you parrot the same overused line. I love you and will pray for you!

  • v

    It is outrageous that every single major phone from the previous two generations has been updated or in the process of being updated to Lollipop EXCEPT the Galaxy S4. Even ATT gave the Lollipop update to their customers, and Samsung has provided the update to practically every other carrier/variant for the S4 around the world, EXCEPT T-mobile. Which leads me to believe that the lack of the update on the S4 has a lot more to do with T-mobile’s inadequacies than Samsung just refusing to update one specific carrier when it has provided Lollipop to all others. Step your game up T-mobile, and make things happen for your loyal customers so we don’t have to play catch-up to everyone else!

    • AA-Ron

      You need to ask yourself, what are we missing out on by not having the update TODAY? Functionality wise what task can you do on lollipop that you cannot accomplish today on Kitkat? Sure the UI is going to be slicker and it might run a little better, but at the end of the day my tmobile galaxy note 4 is still bad ass on kit Kat. Sometimes we just have to have patience, if I have to wait another 3 or 4 weeks for the update so be it. If the difference wastween 2.0 and 4.4 that would be another story.

    • George

      I do not think it is T-mobile (but it could very well be). T-mob is updating LG G2 and HTC M7. Why they would not update Galaxy S4 is beyond me. May be it is just Samsung. Since T-mobile is smaller provider, they do not care to provide updates to T-mobile. Whoever it is, at the end of the day, Samsung is going to lose some more customers (already they lost many) by not providing update to the highly successful S4.

    • superg05

      TAKE YOUR RAGE TO TWITTER where it would do some good

    • Sean

      I could’ve sworn I saw the S4 on their update page when it first launched not too long ago

  • DontMindWaiting.

    I actually would rather they take their time and get it right. I mean, they got it for the Note 3 so you know they are going to develop it. If there is a problem I certainly would want them to find it rather than download something buggy.

  • Fuuuuuuuuu

    It’s absolutely outrageous that they gave the Note 3 Lollipop first.

    Way to absolutely f*** over your flagship customers, T-Mobile. I don’t care if the lollipop update was ready for the Note 3 first, you hold onto that s*** and release it at the same time or a week or two after you send out an update for the Note 4.

    I didn’t buy the Note 4 to be f****** dead last in the Samsung lineup of updates.

    You better light a fire under some asses at Samsung to get 5.1 rolling for the Note 4, or I swear I will never touch a Samsung phone again. The S Pen is awesome, but not indispensable.

  • Android_God

    Did you skip your meds today?

    • Fuuuuuuuuu

      Look, we all know you’re here to troll and make fun of everyone. You could at least try a little harder, though.

      • Android_God

        I saw your rage-post. Well done sir!! Don’t them get you down!!

        • Fuuuuuuuuu

          It’s hard not to get upset when you give a company 700 dollars, but get very little long term support or very slow support/updates. Makes one not want to invest.

        • AA-Ron

          it might be a blessing in disguise. My friends that have a note for on other carriers tell me that the update made that no for a little more buggy and slow. So maybe T Mobile is working out all the bugs and kinks so that we can have the best experience possible. save the best for last maybe?

        • MatthewPDX

          Yeah no one ever thinks about that. I’d rather have it slow to arrive than have it buggy.

        • Fuuuuuuuuu

          The thing is, I had a Nexus 6 (I was torn between that phone and the Note 4 so I tried the Nexus 6 first), and 5.1 was amazing. Phone was blazing fast.

          I returned the Nexus 6 because the displays are crap (burn-in after 5 days), switched to the Note 4, and am perfectly satisfied with the phone (beautiful display, great functionality, especially when rooted and DPI adjusted), but I strongly miss the 5.1 experience.

        • MatthewPDX

          I understand that but good things come to those that wait.

        • Paddy_Tanninger_Caddy_Manager

          only in situations when the early bird doesn’t get the worm.

        • MatthewPDX

          Hmm I have the Note 4 and I’m not upset about it.

        • Android_God

          What the hell is wrong with you Matthew!!! You should be ENRAGED over this issue!!!

        • MatthewPDX

          Oh sorry. Hang on.

          About f***ing time T-Mobile!!! The other carriers had it days ago!! F*** this! I’m going to Sprint!!

        • Android_God

          You win the internet sir!! ROFL!

        • Kareem J. Lanier

          I wouldn’t do that. I just came from them – gladly. (Of course it depends on the network maps in your area. Check them before you switch.) In my area, T-mobile’s network was better.

        • MatthewPDX

          I was kidding.

      • 1ceTr0n

        His trolling is poor compared to even 10 year olds

  • guest

    wow only 5.0 why cant they jump to 5.1 how f****** up is that

    • HeatFan786

      Um, I believe they would have to start the process all over again.

  • dkbnyc

    Gee, wow. Not sure it’s worth the update with all the dang problems I’m hearing about it. I’ll wait a couple of months after it’s released before I decide. My Note 4 is running pretty smooth now.

    However, I thought it was great that T-Mobile was the first carrier to get the Note 4 into it’s customers hands. Remember that? Now stop all your belly achin!

    • junior24

      I had the note 4 in Sprint and updated it to lollipop before going to Tmobile. It makes a huge difference the phone worked a lot better I didn’t see any battery drain or any problem like that. I was having problems the phone lagging a lot and it fixed it

      • Vlad

        Do you know what update you received?
        Was it 5.0.1 version? OR just 5.0 ?

  • MHPhan

    not that anything was wrong with kitkat, except the task switcher opens a little bit slow.

    • Satisfied

      I kind of like Kitkat…

  • SMBLIVE

    JUST ROOT AND DOWNLOAD ON XDA WEBSITE. I’M RUNNING THE LATEST 5.0.1 STOCK ROM.

    • 1ceTr0n

      And void our warrantys? Get out

      • Mike

        T-Mobile doesn’t care if u trip Knox just flash your phone back to stock and your good to go

        • 1ceTr0n

          You wanna pay me $600 to back that claim up?

        • Mike

          I know for a fact t-mobile doesn’t care now if your sending it into Samsung that’s another topic.

  • ForPetesSake

    You are the kind that carries a hammer in your car aren’t you? Get a grip.

    • Fuuuuuuuuu

      What the hell does that even mean? Shut up.

      • ForPetesSake

        It means you act like a freaking 2 year old.

        • Fuuuuuuuuu

          There’s literally nothing that makes sense about your comment, your attempted insult, or your retort. Excuse me while I ignore the hell outta you now.

  • nycplayboy78

    Ummm what about us Galaxy Note Edge users??!! HELLO??!! SIGH…I guess I will have to wait and see what the SamSung Galaxy Note 5 is all about later this fall….

    • Fuuuuuuuuu

      Don’t expect the Edge screens to last beyond this current generation of phones.

    • superg05

      SHOULDN’T BE TO MUCH LONGER

    • Trevnerdio

      Yeeppp…nowhere to be seeen. According to T-Mobile, Samsung is still testing it. Looking at probably 2 months minimum.

  • 1ceTr0n

    ITS ABOUT G0D DAMN FARKING TIME!!!!!

  • 1ceTr0n

    All because of that retarded VR headset that NOBODY farking buys/uses

    • EffortLess

      That turned out to be an incorrectly reported article and was corrected promptly by John Carmack himself in January. https://twitter.com/ID_AA_Carmack/status/561652982987915264
      That was not why it was delayed!

      • 1ceTr0n

        Nobody believes Carmack anymore

    • Richard Roma

      Why are all of the other carriers Note 4 update out then?

  • Tom

    Cam, you should really make a post about how the T-mo Galaxy S4 is the last of the flagship phones to not be updated to Lollipop, let alone not even show up on the T-mo support page. It is definitely interesting how Samsung has provided the update to ATT and every other major global mobile company and/or variant of the S4. A bunch of ppl have remarked about it in this thread too. I think T-mobile needs to get the picture considering the popularity and sales of the S4 for T-mobile, and at the very least push Samsung some more. Kit Kat is great but already looks outdated, but that could just be Touchwiz not looking very appealing :D

    • HeatFan786

      Z3 doesn’t have it either.

    • George

      Yes. I am really frustrated with this. T-mobile updated LG G2 and HTC M7. T-mobile should have made much more profit with galaxy S4. Why it is not updating it when every one else is updated S4? Apparently T-mobile and samsung did the same thing to galaxy S3. Stopped it at 4.3 when everyone else updated it to 4.4. Why t-mobile, Why? It looks like t-mobile does not want its consumers to buy samsung phones.

      • KENOATL

        Don’t be in a hurry… The Samsung S5 update was a buggy mess

        • Vlad

          I believe s5 received 5.0 update, it’s know for it’s bugs
          Hopefully Note 4 would get 5.0.1, where all major bugs been fixed

    • zen2k

      “considering the popularity and sales of the S4 for T-mobile”. That’s the exact reason why tmo won’t provide a lollipop update. There are still a good chunk of their customers are gs4 owners. Tmo wants them to upgrade to a new device.

  • Jon

    Yeah I see you are totally getting F***ed real good because the Note 3 was updated first ha so funny. The Note 4 is getting it so why so serious? It is comical how you want to be first to get updates when you aren’t using a nexus device. Lord help T-Mobile they will surely go out of business if they don’t do as you say.

    • Fuuuuuuuuu

      I never compared this to nexus phones, where’d you pull that from?

      Also, if you can’t see the logical fallacy of updating previous generation Samsung devices to the newest software before a current generation Samsung flagship device, you’re helpless.

      • Jon

        It is really simple it is common knowledge that Nexus devices are updated first due to the vanilla OS. It doesn’t matter what devices receive priority as long as it is updated as some commenters have already stated it is best to take time and work out all the kinks. But don’t mind me I am just hopeless.

        • Fuuuuuuuuu

          I’m not debating Nexus device update timelines or priority, why are you going on about that? I’ve had the Galaxy Nexus, Nexus 5 and Nexus 6, I’m well aware of their situation, which is an entirely separate issue from SAMSUNG, which is what we’re actually supposed to be talking about here.

          “It doesn’t matter what devices receive priority as long as it is updated”

          Absolutely false, either prioritize current generation flagship devices, or release updates across your product line at the same time.

          If I have to wait until the launch of the Note 5 to get Android 5.1 on my Note 4, I’ll never invest in a Samsung phone again. They’re too behind the curve with Android updates. By that time we’ll be on Android 5.2 or checking out the beta for 5.3.

  • Sean

    Off topic, but Cam, do you have any info about Wideband LTE in Washington DC?

  • Jhon

    After updating my wife samsung galaxy S5 phone to 5.0.1
    I could not watch no more free full movies on the show box app so thank god I will not be updating my note edge at all, I love my show box app especially when I can connect it to my 50″ full 1080p. I think it’s way clearer then Blue Ray DVD.

    • superg05

      dont bring attention to that app

    • Frankwhitess

      Are you sure that’s not showbox it’s self that’s not letting?? They just updated there app and at first it does not work.. You have to clear out the cache files and start fresh.. Then do a soft reset and your back to good..

    • MANNY

      UPDATE SHOW BOX

  • junior24

    I miss the lollipop upgrade since I was with sprint. Hopefully it comes soon

  • Steve

    Nexus 6 running 5.1

    • Winnt64

      Whoo, Steve. Same here. Jumped to the Nexus 6, about 3 weeks ago. Really only liked the Note 4 for the stylus, but I can live without it…. But, loving the Nexus and LP 5.1. When the Note is just now going to “maybe” get 5.0.1. Sorry Samsung. Should have booted the VR junk, and released the software when it and the rest of the world was ready for it.

  • Netterzkastle

    SBDP – same boat, different pond

  • ★De’Angelo★

    Ok, I don’t wanna be berated for this. But, anyone notice the clever marketing happening here with manufacturer and network providers regarding these updates? I’ll bet any amount of money, the update starts to roll out April 10.

    • Andrew Vasquez

      Are you referring to tmobile updating the note 4 on April 10?

      • Frankwhitess

        What’s so special about April 10th ?? Why would the carrier and manufacture be involved and how are they profiting?? I am not trying to clown you or anything, just very curious as to where you are coming from ?? I have to admit I too have wonder if there is a marketing behind this.

        • EffortLess

          They’re referring to the mass availability of the S6 on the 10th. By making people wait for Lollipop, some will get tired of waiting and upgrade to the S6 instead.

        • ★De’Angelo★

          Exactly!

    • Lexster

      What’s the significance of April 10th, though?

    • typicaltaurus

      Funny thing, I was told by a tmo chat rep that Lollipop would be rolling out on April 10th when I was chatting about a GPS fix update. Apparently the Lollipop update will fix the GPS as well. I was taking it with a huge grain of salt, but it’s funny you picked April 10th as the date you’ll bet money on.

      • ★De’Angelo★

        Exactly. Because ,those who are tech savvy, may agree that the note 4 on kitkat isn’t that different from lollipop.all the features, minus 64-bit processing, were written in the TouchWiz code. (I.e. recents app, blocking mode vs interruptions, lock screen notifications etc.

        Same thing is gonna happen with lollipop 5.1. Rumors are Samsung isn’t working in ut, but that’s not tru…..Come on ppl, we’re just a 5 months until the announcement of the Note5.

        Pay attention to the business end as well as the technology folks. Again, this is just a theory tho.

    • g2a5b0e

      Your point is very well taken, but it doesn’t work super well in this case. Most Note 4 owners will not be buying an S6, so holding back an update for those users doesn’t make a ton of sense. A much larger percentage of Note 3 & S5 users would be upgrading & they already have the update. That being said, I’m sure what you’re saying happens often. It’s probably a good explanation for why T-Mobile S4 users may never see 5.0.

  • Mike

    Any news on the Note Edge lollipop update?

  • Paddy_Tanninger_Caddy_Manager

    good

    • MagentaUser

      Cool story bro.

  • Paddy_Tanninger_Caddy_Manager

    looks like someone’s had one too many bottles of rage-ahol.

    • Fuuuuuuuuu

      Lol “wanna fightaboudit?”

      • Paddy_Tanninger_Caddy_Manager

        yeah, go f**** yourself

        • Fuuuuuuuuu

          “Yeah it rhymes, big whoop!”

  • davitow

    i had to flash oem kitkat to my att note 4, which right after the flash immediately got lollipop.

    • Paddy_Tanninger_Caddy_Manager

      cool story bro

  • Disappointed

    I agree. The way to teach T-Mobile would be to remind everyone who purchased the Note 4 about the 6+month delay. Tell all possible customers to wait or not buy the Note 5 and 6. Lost sales seems to be the only thing Samsung understands. Until it is upgraded to latest Android 6/7 in 2016/2017. Also fire the marketing and upgrade teams and the VP responsible for this. Like you said its insulting since this is supposed to be the flagship model. If they can’t handle the upgrade cycle stop placing crappy toichwiz on it.

  • BobG

    I bought Note 2 when it 1st came out, what 2 years ago, maybe more. I was told repeatedly by the T-Mobile Store Manager (not a franchise store but a Factory store) and by T-Mobile customer service that a system update was only weeks away. I think I am going to switch to IPhone because at least with Apple everyone gets updates as they are released and I don’t have to wait 2 – 3 years for update promised within weeks. The Note 4 may get upgrade but I am being bypassed again. Tired of the BS.

    • Neoprimal

      Go ahead and switch. Keep in mind however, ie: investigate what each iPhone loses per update. I guarantee the 5S doesn’t have the same features as the 6 and when the 7 comes even though hardware will be very similar, I guarantee the 6 won’t be including all the software that is on the 7. The nice thing about Android is that 5.0/5.0.x/5.1 is going to bring ALL of the core features of 5.x to Samsung, LG, HTC, etc. and whatever devices it gets into. There’s no discrimination between a Note 2 and a Note 4, as an example…bearing hardware is similar, of course.

      The grass is always greener though….

      • Acdc1a

        Ask the ealy 8.1 adopters last year how that went for them.

      • Luck

        Yes, Grass is greener, I agree. But, atleast with apple we will be sure that the security holes are patched immediately. In the case of Android this is one of the major issues and that is the reason I would prefer to have updates atleast within three months they are released. Recently (last week) google claimed it reduced malware by half. Make note, HALF. Not less than 10% or 10,000 devices. We do not know the starting number. As far as I am concerned, all the devices were affected before. Now one in two devices are affected. Now we do everything on our mobile devices. They should be updated in the same way computers are updated (ideally). But, right now with android what cook said was true “Hell stew of mobile malware”

    • Bob Hart

      Go for the iPhone.Since it’s mostly 2012 technology it’s easier to update.

      Most females I know have iPhones

  • Neoprimal

    When I decided to get the Note 4 vs. the Nexus 6, I knew I’d be in for a wait when it came to getting Android updates but 4 months? Yeesh. I don’t know when I became so update hungry. I mean, it’s not like it’s life altering or anything, but I just really, really want it. That being said, I feel so pinched over the lengthy timeframe that if the next Nexus is a phablet and has a stylus, I may go that route vs. any other brand (yeah, totally sold on the damned stylus now). I really like the Note 4 but getting these darned updates are just too important to me. Right now I’m really missing the security features of 5.0. Like the connection between the phone and my Moto 360 (which turns off the lockscreen when within proximity and back on when not) and the ability to have the lock screen turn off when connected to a certain Wifi.

    Please T-Mo. Hurry up! They should allow users to opt-in to testing.

    • Rob O’Connell

      I agree one hundred percent. The secure unlock feature is mostly what I’m after also. Note features still to strong for me to abandon. In addition to stylus, I’m addicted to IR blaster, SD card, removable back (s view cover)
      But the slowness to update is a big price.

      • Hector Arteaga

        Note 4 is an awesome phone. If the Nexus 6 had a comparable stylus with similar features, then the Nexus 6 would be my top choice.

      • defcon888

        I am with you…I don’t use my stylus that much, but I like knowing I have it. I am addicted to the SD slot as well…that is why I am hoping and praying the Note 5 will still have it….if not, I will have to give up my styus for the HTC One M9 or the LG G4.

    • Android_God

      4 VERY VERY long 4 months!! for me personally it has been quite a journey! I went from send us an outrage which caused migraines and hemorrhoids! this also resulted in poor sleep along with weird dreams that I was always in a forest filled with zombies with lollipops as heads. anyways I think I went off course there are but I think you get my point.

      on the other end though there is lots of hope and joy! I’ve learned to accept it and now that lollipops coming I pretty much feel like my life is back on course. I hope you can see the deep meaning in my post and know that there is hope!

  • MarylandUSA

    Meanwhile, yesterday Android 5.1 was pushed to my unlocked Sony Z Ultra Google Play Edition. Suddenly, my T-Mobile LTE signal is consistently 5 or 4 bars, a huge improvement. Coincidence?

  • pops87

    Its a shame that the t-mo s4 has been totally ignored.

    • Luck

      and I, who bought the S4 just before 18 months fell like an idiot. I should have bought atleast LG G2 or HTC one M7. Samsung after making so much money with S4, through all of us under the bus. But luckily I came to know about the plight of S3 and S4 just before S6 launched. I will not buy S6 or S6-edge or S6 active and plethora of other variants. This is the reason Samsung does not get time to update their popular phones.

      • Android_God

        You both obviously made very poor decisions! I hope you give this some deep thought and learn from your mistake!

        • Fadi Jaouni

          Lmao

      • g2a5b0e

        Samsung has already updated the S4. It’s on unlocked versions. AT&T owners already have it & I believe Sprint as well. Blame T-Mobile on this one.

    • ssjchaseutley

      I believe it’ll come still. Internationally, it IS available. I believe the reason for the delay (or reticence) is due to the memory leak. Rumor has it S4 will skip a version (updated to 5.1 rather than 5.0).

  • Philip

    I am not updating to LP just yet. Wanam and Xposed are not working. No framework for it yet. Not sure if the unlimited Hotspot is working either.

    • Android_God

      I saw Wanam and Xposed at Madison! They ROCKED IT!

  • williejackbrainer

    I don’t believe T-Mobile should take blame for any updates when the manufacturer has their own UI involved. They have to make sure it works well with the new LP update without bugs etc… I’m glad I went with the Nexus 6 this year and no longer have to wonder about updates. I went through that with S3, M7 and LG G2.

    • Lexster

      The problem is other carriers have had the update for the Note 4 for weeks now, so it’s not like Samsung wasn’t sure it was ready for the phone. I’m not sure who to blame on this one.

      • Android_God

        I personally gave this. 00000 0000 0001 minute of total time thinking about blame. I really appreciate you taking one for the team and giving this such deep thought! You are a hero man!

      • williejackbrainer

        I understand where you’re coming from, however things will always be this way when manufacturers want to put their own UI, bloatware gimmicks on the phones.

        • Lexster

          I’m not saying it isn’t a problem, but if it was fully because of the manufacturer’s skin, then all the carriers would have had access to test it. Instead, Sprint came first weeks ago and then AT&T and Verizon and then a week or two later, T-Mobile.

      • Richard Saunders

        I’m guessing the added delays came from implementing Wi-Fi calling and VoLTE, which from what I understand neither of them are trivial to do. Apparently proper handoff without dropping the call is difficult.

      • Fadi Jaouni

        It’s probably T-mobile! The deley could be because of T-MOB’s bloat that will be removed instantly when i flash the Firecat version of the update! it sucks that i have to wait longer than other people to get the update!

    • Nick

      williejackbrainer Can you make Tmobile wifi calls on Nexus 6? I can’t buy Nexus 6 till we get wifi calling on it. I am totally dependent on wifi calling in my house.

      • williejackbrainer

        No, not yet. There is going to be another update and that will have WiFi calling. It’s still in beta stage as far as I know.

      • Chris Fisher

        I’m with you on this. I didn’t do enough research and didn’t realize it was not on the Nexus 6. The 5.1 update unlocking Band 12 helped at the house on the west side of Cincinnati, Ohio but I still need WiFi calling as it still drops some calls.

      • defcon888

        This was my thinking….I was thinking of upgrading to the Nexus so I can get the latest updates first…but where my wife and I live….a cell signal is barely there (we live in a canyon type area) so WiFi is a great option. When I went to Ireland last year on business, I was able to connect to the wifi at the hotel and call my wife in the states for free.

    • HeatFan786

      That’s why I am going with the iPhone 6S+ or newest nexus come fall.

      • Android_God

        I’m sorry you had to endure this! It must have been an emotional rollercoaster! please stay strong and know that there is hope!

      • Android_God

        I really need to take the rest of the day to process what you’re saying

      • williejackbrainer

        Both are will be great choices.

        • HeatFan786

          I can get better idea on the software during WWDC or Google I/O. Right now, I am leaning towards iOS/iPhone.

        • williejackbrainer

          I was thinking about going with iPhone is well. Just because their updates seem to be more streamlined than androids.

        • HeatFan786

          Exactly, iOS also does a good job with the core functions too. iOS 8 is the first version I say we should better than Android in awhile.

      • Android_God

        Right on!!! It sounds like you are finding peace!

      • defcon888

        I was thinking the same thing, but LOCKING the NFC and not being able to add more mem. via an SD card (which is what the Galaxy S6 is doing)….no thank you. Yes, I know I can buy a 64gb or a 128gb version of the phone…but why spend extra $200 for a phone when I can add a 64gb card for under $40 and a 128gb for under $80. Besides….iTunes SUCKS….I use it…because I do own a iPad4.

        • HeatFan786

          It’s about trades. With iOS I take less features for a better camera experience, more apps, iMessaging, etc. For me, it’s fine switch, but the latest S6 and the new Note 5 rumors are having me in a pickle.

        • defcon888

          If you use Google Hangouts on the Android and your friends use it on their iPhones it is like iMessage. You can send images, links and you can see that they are typing. There is also a GOOGLE plugin for your PC that puts an live icon on your desktop and you can chat through that.

        • HeatFan786

          Not a fan of hangouts too much. imessage is more mainstream too.

        • Patrick Sutfin

          nice except Note 4 and both s6 models have a better camera than the Iphone Google play has more apps than iphone. Basically if you want a phone that is just hype and an app tray buy an iphone

        • Firehawk

          Actually Google play has had more apps than iStore for about a year now, and if you like 3 year old hardware then go for an iphone.

        • OnlineRefugee

          I was considering the S6. I really, really like the S6 Edge. That’s so cool the way display curves and the second taskbar of sorts can be on the side.

          But like you I noticed first thing they excluded the microSD slot. That alone is a deal breaker for me. I will never go back to not having a slot.

          Then Samsung made it worse by makiing the S6 with a fixed battery! WTH?! No way. I’m way to used to sometimes running my battery too low, to where I simply swap out the worn battery for a fresh one.

          Fixed battery, fixed memory, no thanks. I will never buy such a phone.

          P.S. These changes might make our “old” phones valuable. Seems to me that phones with a removable battery and microSD slot are going to be in high demand.

          P.P.S. What’s up with Samsung? I guess they wanted to hop on to the profits train with Apple. The iphone makes Apple extra profits when people pay way more money to get the higher memory.

          Like you mention, extra chips, the real deal, not Chinese fake stuff, is dirt cheap on eBay. I go through one seller who has 16GB Class 10 chips for $15 (Samsung or Sandisk), and $20 for 32GB class 10. And while I don’t believe in putting too much stuff on a single chip, if the chip goes bad I will not have lost a lot of files, I noticed he is selling 64GB C10 chips for $32.

          Of course, there’s the versatility of using a microSD chip in a phone, on a thumb drive, another phone, a new phone, or on a computer. Can’t do that with an iPhone.

          Compare those prices with getting a 64GB iPhone.

          – Apple also makes huge profits with battery repair. It costs users $80 to $90 to send an iPhone into Apple to get a new battery. I pay $8 on eBay to get a spare battery.

          – Some people mention the iPhone camera. I have a lot of phones with different cameras. Starting with the old 640K cameras in 2001-2. I don’t know about iPhone cameras, but I am very, very pleased with the picture and video quality of my Note 3, which has a good sensor, lens, and software to run the camera. (You can’t tell much by looking at megapixels. What matters is the sensor and other hardware the camera uses. FYI the Note 3 has a 13MP camera, and a 2MP front facing cam.)

          My camera works very well in low light, and shoots great macro pics.

          iPhones are a total scam.

      • Fadi Jaouni

        I would do the same (port over to Apple) if they included a removable battery and an SD card slot, odds are that’ll never happen sooooo, Note 5 it is (If of course they stick with the RB-SD fixes!)

    • Android_God

      You are an example fur the rest of the members who are still struggling on a daily basis! Ya man!!! Like, way to go!

      • williejackbrainer

        Speaking of struggling. I’m struggling to understand your point?

        • Android_God

          That’s right!!! Keep processing that! Way to go!

        • williejackbrainer

          You’re my hero! No, I mean you’re my Android God!!!!

        • Android_God

          However you experience me is alright by me! We’re all in the journey as one people!

  • Android_God

    I think it’s really great that we as a group are coming together and going deeper with our emotions and truly expressing the well of our pain in how we have been coping these last 4 months! I stand with you all and please please please realize that there is hope!

  • Android_God

    I think we as a group need to create a safe word. when we see a fellow member expressing such deep and immense pain, we will say this word so that they know they are being heard and can feel a sense of comfort. let’s work on what word this will be!

    • MySentimentsExactly

      You go Andrew!

    • 1ceTr0n

      Whats the safe word for a pathetic troll?

      • Android_God

        “1ceTr0n”

  • JayBEE

    People actually use the x.0 versions of things?

  • Android_God

    A safe food to eat when you are starting to lose your $hit over your lollipop update is Chick Fil A! It’s very soothing and will bring you peace!

  • no more android

    Its crap dont use it. They pull a fast one by updating kit-kat and right after like 5 minutes after lolicrap. . I hate my note 4 now hate it!!
    Im done with Google and the crap they pruduce now.

    • Timbo1

      Lollipop does seem a bit unfinished and the earlier builds were quite buggy on my Nexus but it is fine now but eh, its still better than anything apple or microsoft puts out.

    • Firehawk

      Which carrier version of 5.0 did you have? Google produces the vanilla platform for the OS, then carriers bloat the crap out of it before they release it on to phones. Maybe try the vanilla version of the OS before you cry about it, or go have fun with an iJunk device.

  • defcon888

    I may be in the minority, but I like the Lollipop update on my Note 3. I had to do a factory reset (hard reset…not soft) after it downloaded and installed. It is smoother and cleaner. Does it change the playing field…..ehhhhhhh, not really. If you are happy with KitKat (like my wife), there is no BIG reason to update unless you are like me and want the latest and greatest.

  • Faslane

    release the damn thing already. Its been through testing on ever other platform just release the update already. Ridiculous!

  • AllThingsReviewed215

    T-Mobile is dirt last…..VERIZON even got the update before us. Nice job.

    • Jackson

      Still waiting on my ATT variant, xda isn’t thrilled about how battery life is suffering so I’m on the fence about whether I’m missing the update or not. I think i just don’t like the idea of the update “failing” whenever I attempt to update (yes using wifi not ota).

      • JJCommonSense

        Take it to a Samsung Experience Shop in BestBuy and have them update it for you. It might not be a bad idea to back the phone up at home and do a factory reset after u do the update. My girl has the ATT version and she hasn’t complained of the battery life. She said it was better now than before.

        • Jackson

          I tried twice to get the Samsung Experience Counter Rep to upgrade to Lollipop. First time a lady was being helped, but it took a good five minutes to even be acknowledged and five minutes later I split because my ride got back and it didn’t seem like they were anywhere being done, this was on a Saturday night. Monday early afternoon, caught rep at lunch, but no one could explain that to me, just a combination of ignoring and walking to the back when I explained who I needed. By the time he came out, he claimed they haven’t released the image to the public yet, said kies would be used in the update process, of course by then I can do it myself.

          So I found that image off xda and updated myself. Glad I did, battery’s getting better with each charge. Hopefully it won’t be too difficult to roll back and apply “official” update whenever that “drops.”

  • George

    I will wait for LG G4. It looks like they will have replaceable battery and micro sd card slot. Also a leather cover!. Great. Also, LG supports their phones for 2 year. Even L90 which is a midrange phone is getting updated to 5.1. Samsung did not support the likes of note 2, S3 and S4. Way to go LG. Take my money.

    • Geek Skywalker

      No one cares as this is an article about the Samsung Note 4 that already has those options. Have fun with your second fiddle phone.

    • Fadi Jaouni

      Like i really value what LG is doing but, their LG g4 oesn’t even compare to the 6 month old Note 4. Updates are one thing and an awesome device is a completely different thing.

  • Geek Skywalker

    Why the heck is this update taking so gosh darn long? At some point, they will have to understand that they can’t catch all the issues in one go. They need the live update and feedback to catch the minor tweaks. It’s crazy to think how long this update is taking when it should have been sent out long ago. T Mobile get to it!

  • Fadi Jaouni

    Its so stupid how T-MOB was the first to ship the device out of all the carriers anf when it came time to update the darn device they were the last. Stupidity anyone?