T-Mobile announces $2.37 billion purchase of Verizon’s A-block spectrum

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We’ve been reading reports for a while that T-Mobile could be weighing up a move for Verizon’s unused lower-frequency airwaves. Initially, VZW had officially stated that it was willing to sell, but only for the right price (thought to be between $2B-$3B). Last month, the two companies had also applied for permission from the governing bodies to swap spectrum. Today, the magenta-flavored carrier has announced that the purchase is going through.

In a press release this morning, T-Mobile announced that it is to acquire 700MHz A-Block spectrum from Verizon. Its purpose is to help Tmo “rapidly expand” its network. This low-band spectrum covers roughly 150 million people and will “improve the customer experience in major metro areas.” With it being low-band, it is much better at getting indoors and should help Tmo provide fantastic, fast LTE coverage that works just as well indoors as it does outside. This deal cost T-Mobile $2.37 billion (in cash and transfer of AWS and PCS spectrum licenses).

It’s great to see T-Mobile making good on its promise to invest in acquiring more spectrum in an effort to provide a fast and widely available LTE network, and that network will soon be one of the best quality networks around.

Of course, this announcement only precedes  another major event at CES in two days time. We’re expecting John Legere to get up on stage and “transform” the industry yet again. Our sources suggest it’s going to offer families a way out of contracts with other carriers before they’re due to end. AT&T already responded to those rumors by offering up to $450 to T-Mobile customers looking to change carrier.

Something tells me Wednesday is going to be very interesting indeed. We’ll have full coverage for you.

UPDATE: A quick look at the new 700MHz spectrum map: 

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Full Press Release:

T-Mobile to Acquire 700 MHz A-Block Spectrum from Verizon Wireless, Significant Step in Rapidly Advancing Un-carrier Network Experience

Low-band spectrum covering approximately 150 million people will further improve customer experience in major metro areas, boosting in-building and breadth of network coverage

BELLEVUE, Wash., Jan 06, 2014 (BUSINESS WIRE) –T-Mobile US, Inc. (NYSE: TMUS) today announced that its wholly-owned subsidiaries T-Mobile USA, Inc. and T-Mobile License, LLC have signed agreements to purchase certain 700 MHz A-Block spectrum licenses from Verizon Wireless for $2.365 billion in cash and the transfer of certain AWS and PCS spectrum licenses, which have an aggregate estimated value of approximately $950 million. The transactions, combined with T-Mobile’s existing A-Block holdings in Boston, will result in T-Mobile having important low-band spectrum in 9 of the top 10 and 21 of the top 30 markets across the United States. “This is a great opportunity to secure low-band spectrum in many of the top markets in America,” said John Legere, President and CEO of T-Mobile. “These transactions represent our biggest move yet in a series of initiatives that are rapidly expanding our already lightning fast network and improving its performance across the country. We will continue to find ways to advance our customers’ network experience just as our bold Un-carrier moves have shaken up the wireless industry to benefit consumers.”

These are significant transactions that will further enhance a rapidly improving network experience that T-Mobile expects will create shareholder value. Low-band spectrum substantially improves in-building coverage as well as coverage in rural areas. It also travels greater distances than high-band spectrum and therefore is a more efficient way to provide coverage at the edge of cities and in less densely populated areas. Combined with its existing Boston A-Block holdings, T-Mobile will have low-band spectrum covering approximately 158 million people — including New York, Los Angeles, Dallas, Houston, Philadelphia, Atlanta, Washington D.C., and Detroit. T-Mobile anticipates rolling out service and compatible handsets on this A-Block spectrum as early as the fourth quarter of 2014.

In 2013, T-Mobile continued its rapid LTE rollout, deploying 10+10 MHz 4G LTE in 43 of the top 50 metro areas and it is commencing substantive deployments of 20+20 MHz 4G LTE in 2014. The company launched its nationwide 4G LTE network in 2013, which currently covers approximately 209 million people in 273 metro areas.

Also, as part of the transaction, the two companies will realign spectrum blocks in certain markets, primarily in northern California and the Atlanta area.

The agreements are subject to approval by the Federal Communications Commission and the Department of Justice, and other customary closing conditions. Following regulatory approval, these transactions are expected to close in mid-2014.

TAP Advisors worked as financial advisors for T-Mobile on this transaction.

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  • Tmo _ employee

    Maybe employees can get a raise this year

    • Justsayin

      Maybe you should earn it first…From: Employee

      • trickinit

        As opposed to last year when I earned it and got nothing? Go troll somewhere else.

  • g2a5b0e

    Better building penetration coming this year? The company that I love & have been a loyal customer of for over 10 years just keeps getting better. I had no reason to leave, but they just keep giving me more reasons to stay. T-Mobile rocks.

    • bucdenny

      Ain’t going to happen this year. Wait until 2016 when channel 51 moves.

      • g2a5b0e

        Not sure if you’re being serious or just trying to troll, but if you had read the actual press release, you would know that that’s not true.

  • Marcoshay

    That’s great! Here in Yuma, AZ, I still get EFGE. to see over 270 metro areas covered is irritating.. Yuma is in the top 225 but completely edge. Will they announce more covered cities at CES?

  • TC

    Yes!!!

  • yankeesusa

    My goodness this is great. Just yesterday I ran a speedtest just for the heck of it in my lte area that I get between 18 and 22 and I was able to hit 40.07mbps dl with 9.08ul. So far Ive been really happy with tmobile.

  • kev2684

    “Low-band spectrum covering approximately 150 million people will further improve customer experience in major metro areas, boosting in-building and breadth of network coverage”

    uhh why is it only going to be used on major metro areas when they actually have large chunks of rural areas they can cover with this low band spectrum? it’s 2x5mhz but i’m sure people will appreciate it over edge and switch.

    • Alex Zapata

      Maybe they’re still slightly stuck in their old ways?

    • Flyincloud

      I agree, but it is better than nothing

    • TMOTECH

      The spectrum can only be used where it is licensed. That could mean it only is available in one city or another. There may be gaps where it is owned by someone else.

      • kev2684

        from the looks of it vzw is not sharing the a block spectrum they own with anybody. rural coverage is possible outside these major cities.

    • KingCobra

      Most of this spectrum covers urban areas. So it will mainly go towards increasing building penetration in those markets.

  • taron19119

    Great news now how long before the first phone that’s compatible with this new spectrum will be coming out I’m not buying a new phone until this compatible with this new spectrum

    • Alex Zapata

      Probably not for another year at least. I hope I’m wrong though.

    • kev2684

      afaik all phones from Note II all have band 2/4/17 LTE on board. T-Mo just need to push an update to access it. band 2 is PCS, band 4 is AWS (what we use), band 17 is lower 700, also what AT&T uses.

      • taron19119

        Time out band A has three classifications and this one is not 17 band

        • kev2684

          i stand corrected. i thought band 17 is all of lower 700mhz. it’s band 12 is it? 700mhz is a mess. incompatible with every carrier unlike AWS.

        • taron19119

          Yes band 12 is what t-mobile just brought and unlike US Cellular t Mobile is big enough company to have manufacturers corporate Band 12 and to all new phones that come to tmobile

    • Q4 2014 is the earliest.

      • randian

        Moto X variants with band 12 have already exist. I presume that existing Moto X phones have the required hardware and would only need a software update to enable.

        • Band 12 support does not exist in other Moto X variants besides the US Cellular one. It’s not something that can be “unlocked” since it’s an entirely different hardware SKU.

    • philyew

      It becomes clearer why the Jump! program is the most aggressive of the upgrade options.

  • peharri

    Wonderful news! How much of the country do the licenses cover out of interest?

  • besweeet

    I’ve yet to run into issues in buildings, at least in San Antonio and Las Vegas, so this doesn’t interest me much. And this still does nothing for those outside of cities, unfortunately.

    • Encino Stan

      Personally, I have terrible reception in buildings in San Antonio. Residential houses are fine, but in large commercial buildings on Ft. Sam Houston and USAA calls are dropped or missed all the time.

      • besweeet

        Really? My service seemed fine when I interned at USAA in the summer, except for the parking garages. Never made calls, though, so I guess that’s a different story. Ft. Sam for me was also fine, albeit data might’ve been slower than usual.

        • Trevnerdio

          USAA is awesome. How was it?

        • besweeet

          They were great. Almost every employee seemed happy about where they were and what they were there for. Was my first internship and it basically set the standard. Made me rethink how positive some companies can be.

        • Encino Stan

          T-Mobile HTC One hardly gets any service unless near window. ATT iPhone (provided by company) gets great service, but that is because there are ATT repeaters through out the (3.9 million sq. ft.) building.

          Ft. Sam has a known dead spot around the USAMITC building. T-Mobile told me that the antennae that services that area is owned by ATT. They did some tweaks that helped in the parking lot, but not indoors. Data speed is 2-4 Mbps.

        • besweeet

          I think I was in the third floor of D, close to the middle of it. My T-Mobile iPhone had a few bars and it performed and worked just fine. The HTC One supposedly isn’t very good with T-Mobile in general. To each their own, I suppose.

    • Paul

      It has to do with strength and building materials.
      My office = 1-2 bars and slower data.
      My apartment = Ricky Bobby fast and great signal reception.
      Local grocery store by home = great service.
      Downtown = less stellar then my apartment, but I have service and inside building for the most part.

      It just depends. I’m in Dallas but interviewed in S.A. several months ago. Didn’t get a signal in that office. This can only be a positive move.

  • Marc

    This is great news.

  • Flyincloud

    I have nothing bad to say about this

  • Kidney_Thief

    Not sure this was the right move, being that it’s such a limited amount of spectrum, but obviously somebody knows something I don’t.

    • taron19119

      It is the right move buying spectrum from a private party when t-mobile doesn’t have enough money to get in a building war at an auction

      • Kidney_Thief

        The problem to me is this: with a 5 MHz block, you can either deploy voice OR data, but not both, unless they’re planning on deploying VoLTE, which I’m doubtful of. Either way, customers are going to be missing 50% of the user experience.

        • taron19119

          This is going to be used for LTE

        • KingCobra

          It’s for LTE. Voice is fine in most areas. It’s the slow EDGE and GPRS that most people complain about.

        • S. Ali

          MetroPCS has already deplooyed VoLTE so it might be exactly what they will use it for.

        • I think far more people care about data than voice at this point. Far easier to build services on top of LTE with data than voice. Voice isn’t a primary concern anymore.

      • philyew

        Also the next auction, for the 600MHz, has just been delayed until 2015. If they don’t buy privately, they have no means to acquire essential low frequency spectrum.

    • philyew

      Given that a major pain-point is indoor coverage, this will offer an improvement to the vast majority of their customers who reside in the most populous areas, and improves marketability to almost 50% of the population as a whole.

      Despite the common view that the overall footprint of 3G/4G service is the biggest concern, it remains the case that TM stand to improve their revenue most by providing a first class experience in the larger markets where almost 70% of the population reside.

      From the announcement, it can be seen that the “go faster go LOUD” clue that Legere teased last week clearly refers to the expansion of 20+20 LTE markets, which will improve speed, and the addition of the 700MHz spectrum, which will make indoor signals louder. The fact that it will extend suburban coverage because of improved signal range is a bonus.

      • Kidney_Thief

        Believe me, I understand the benefits of lower band spectrum. I really do. What I don’t understand the benefit of is such a small amount of lower band spectrum that you can’t get more of, unless you want to buy it from AT&T or US Cellular.

        • KingCobra

          They can’t purchase it if AT&T or US Cellular aren’t selling.

          One of the reasons Verizon never used this spectrum and was willing to sell is because it is prone to interference from the UHF tv broadcast.

          Also even in the urban markets where T-Mobile already has a presence, in some of those cities the LTE doesn’t reach into the suburbs. So with this spectrum they should be able to full cover those metro markets and just about all of their suburbs with LTE and also penetrate well into buildings.

        • Kidney_Thief

          That was my point. Neither AT&T (who has, by far, the more desirable spectrum portfolio) nor US Cellular are selling, so the possibility of getting any addition 700 MHz spectrum is pretty much nil. So while, yes, it would increase coverage somewhat, it’s at the cost of quality of service relative to what you’ll find in more urban areas.

        • Roger Sales

          AT&T only has one A license to speak of, and from the wording of their agreement with cricket the idea is for them to sell the one cricket owns and have cricket keep the proceeds from that sale. I mean sure they can keep it, but they already have enough spectrum in the Chicago area that it is not imperative to hold onto it.

        • philyew

          According to the FCC Spectrum Dashboard the only A block license held by AT&T is for an area in the Carolinas.

        • Roger Sales

          That was the license I was talking about when I mentioned AT&T’s License. Cricket owns a licence for the chicago area – which is the other license I was referring to.

        • randian

          Who says you need to buy that spectrum? You can lease it or sign a roaming agreement instead.

        • philyew

          I see your concern, and have yet to see how they would use 5MHz of spectrum effectively, but in suburban areas they typically have GSM/AWS coverage to handle the voice and could dedicate the new spectrum to data.

          You may have a point about building penetration in urban areas. Since no signal currently penetrates many structures for either voice or data service, how will they apportion the limited amount of spectrum to provision both, while avoiding it being congested by users with easier network access?

          I’m trusting this is more than a $2.4 billion publicity stunt and that they have a workable strategy to move this forward. During the several months that this idea has been rumored, I’ve seen nothing from any technical reviewers, which has said this would be a wasted investment.

        • philyew

          I’ve just revisited the FCC site and see that they describe the Public Safety Band (763-768/793-798 MHz) as a 10MHz block. Since the A block is comprised 698-704/728-734 MHz, is that not a 10 MHz block also? If so, your concerns about there being only 5Mhz available would appear to be addressed.

        • Kidney_Thief

          10 MHz in total, 5 for the uplink and for the downlink.

        • philyew

          I thought you were talking about a 5Mhz block.

    • just me

      In the investor slide, they mention participating in the 600mhz auction. Is it possible to combine any 600mhz block they manage to get with this 700mhz? Maybe that’s what they’re thinking? 2×5 700mhz deployment for now and add onto it when they get some 600?

  • Erstam

    Yay! Good for them. I love tmobile!

  • sushimane88

    Not a bad price at least T-Mobile didn’t spend all their cash. Now they can save up for the next spectrum Auction or upgrade their network as well.

    • taron19119

      T-mobile can buy more A block spectrum like the one the US Cellular has been trying to get rid of

      • Kidney_Thief

        The same US Cellular that doesn’t have any spectrum licenses in New York, Boston, Chicago, Minneapolis, Dallas, Las Vegas, Seattle, San Francisco, or LA?

        • KingCobra

          They have spectrum licenses in a lot of rural areas though. Places where T-Mobile desperately needs high speed data.

      • S. Ali

        I think U.S Cellular did deploy on the A-Block, they were one of the only companies that attempted it, so its not unused (however we might begin speculation of a U.S Cell + T-Mobile merger)

        • xmiro

          or T-Mobile could buy the spectrum from US Cellular and have a lease-back/mvno type agreement

        • Roger Sales

          It’s more likely they’d agree to have an LTE roaming agreement where they operate said spectrum. Less messy/complicated and more benefits right away.

        • Roger Sales

          It’s certainly a more feasible argument than a Sprint-T-Mobile tango that the analysts just love talking about. Different technologies at work, but the synergy on a spectrum level is perfect.

        • taron19119

          actually uscellular can not get any manufacturers to make a phone wit band 12 on it because no other cellular company supports it and US Cellular is too small to make a phone just for them and said they would sell the spectrum if they can I get it incorporated into a phone

        • randian

          US Cellular Moto X (XT1055) has band 12.

      • Roger Sales

        I didn’t realize US Cellular was looking to dump any of its 700 A spectrum given that its their primary LTE band and the reason they couldn’t offer the iPhone for so long. Unless its in an area they can’t build on yet, why would they give it up?

  • D_Wall__

    This is Great News!

  • TSS

    So T Mobile is going to deploy 700mHz lte on top of 1700 lte And hspa???

    • KingCobra

      Yes

  • sidekicker89

    It looks like Cincinnati is being covered with the new spectrum!! :) does anyone know if my HTC One will be able to access this new 700 Mhz band?

    • Hamster

      No, from what I can tell the HTC One comes with Band 17 700Mhz, which only covers B and C blocks. Band 12 is what’s needed.

    • KingCobra

      You will have to buy a new phone.

    • JB45

      About time….hopefully its one of the 1st markets that gets the spectrum put to use

  • KingCobra

    Unfortunately it doesn’t cover my market but a great move by TMO nonetheless.

    • sushimane88

      Yeah I feel the same way I already have fast data speed no reason to complain. But if it improve T-Mobile all around and help them add more customers why not.

  • sidekicker89

    What are they going to do about the interference issue? I hope it gets worked out. On Phonedog they said this could be approved by mid 2014 and could be deployed Q4 2014!

    • Bori

      I was just reading about this, and I believe, we in Cincinnati could have POSSIBLY had a chance for an early deployment, but, yet another obstacle (CH. 51) is still present here in the area.

      • Roger Sales

        A solution could be on the way faster than before because now a major player plans to use the a block – the FCC will want to patch up the issue ASAP because they are loving what tmobile is doing for competition.

        • Bori

          Let’s hope.

  • Cam Bunton

    I updated the post with an image of the areas covered by this spectrum.

  • Cjpowers 911

    When will than turn on, will it work on the t moblie lte out already

  • JB

    Sweet! Coverage in KC and throughout CA… If only in Nashville (oh well guess you can’t win them all)

  • Roger Sales

    This is the best news possible for T-Mobile customers, given that it means in these areas LTE penetration is going to be very deep. I know a lot of people are disappointed its not nationwide, but it is a big step for T-Mobile to deliver better service – including on the road. I’m very pleased. T-Mobile customers in Cincinnati should be especially happy about this.

  • S. Ali

    I guess the long-term plan would be to acquire contiguous 600mhz spectrum whenever the FCC gets around to holding that auction (2015 seems the earliest). I think T-mobile will deploy VoLTE on this band and probably will announce LTE-Advanced by the end of the year.

  • Roger Sales

    I think this announcement also quashes a lot of thoughts that DT wants to sell – at least immediately. Why buy spectrum that isn’t compatible with the potential suitor if you don’t want to go it alone at least a little while longer? I think they just let the rumors spread because of the positive surge it had on their stock value.

    • KingCobra

      Well when it comes to these buyouts they have to behave as if nothing is going on since there has been no official announcement or offer made by Softbank nor Dish. If they actually do end up getting bought it, then the buyer would likely be forced to continue to operate TMO for at least 5 years anyway. So the spectrum purchase is still beneficial even if they do get bought out.

    • Dakota

      I’ve already read articles that after this announcement, DISH stock has risen to its highest levels in a decade.. Investors seem to have different ideas

      • Roger Sales

        I’m skeptical because T-Mobile is still on their new growing pattern. In my head you’d think you’d sell when you believe you’ve hit your peak and can get the most bang for your buck – it just doesn’t seem like the right time to waive the white flag. I’m not a professional in the industry and I’m not saying it can’t happen, I just think waiting just sounds like common sense.

      • KP

        Rule of thumb. Cash on the books makes you more valuable. They just moved a lot of cash. Should give you some insight as to their way of thinking. Yes, an M&A event can still happen but this move says it plow ahead for TMO.

  • Chris

    Since i am METRO PCS Customer I live in Michigan this is great news especially living in the rural area looking forward to the new changes soon !!!

    • Chris

      Especially in the upper northern part of Michigan

  • Chris

    Initially I said this didn’t benefit me since I’m in NC and there was no spectrum there. However, upon a second look there is a bunch of spectrum up by my parents. This could help very much with our decision to switch from Sprint to T-Mobile!

  • Bori

    So, what does this mean for us here in Cincinnati waiting for some LTE? We’ll have to wait till the spectrum is available, and hope the devices that support it are available by the end of Q4? BTW congrats to all of those who live in excellent covered markets, things will get even better for you all :-)

    • Kidney_Thief

      It means that you’ll have to wait for Cincinnati Bell to start selling some of its spectrum licenses, as they own the majority of them.

      • Bori

        Yep, I guess Tmo customers will have to sit there and wait.

      • Danny Lewis

        Okay, Cincinnati Bell is a thorn in T-Mobile’s side. Why doesn’t T-Mobile just buy them? I’m sure I’m not the only one who has thought of this.

        • Kidney_Thief

          I’ve long wondered the same thing.

        • Bori

          One big thorn too! And their cell service is nothing to brag about.

  • Allen

    Do any of the phones currently available for sale have the ability to access this new 700MHZ block? Can existing phones be upgraded with new software or will we all have to buy new phones to be able to use this new LTE bandwidth?

    • Little T

      Nexus 5 can

      • philyew

        Are you sure about that? It has to do more than handle 700MHz.

        700MHz A block equates to LTE band 12, and none of the spec sheets I’ve seen include that.

        • remister

          I don’t see it either.
          Network
          2G/3G/4G LTE
          GSM: 850/900/1800/1900 MHz
          CDMA: Band Class: 0/1/10
          WCDMA: Bands: 1/2/4/5/6/8/19
          LTE: Bands: 1/2/4/5/17/19/25/26/41

        • Little T

          Ya, you’re right. My bad :)

        • philyew

          It’s a shame…particularly as I have one ;)

        • Little T

          I know.. I have the Note 3 which I think has the same proc.

  • Guest

    Great job, T-Mobile, keep it coming! Investing in your infrastructure will help gain additional market share in the long term, as users will be able to hopefully make calls in doors in 9 of the top 10 and 21 of the top 30 markets across the country. Hopefully more later this year.

  • Tom

    That doesn’t mean that we all would need new phones right? As I am looking at the specs of an iPhone 5 it says that it supports 700 bands. I wouldn’t have to upgrade right?

    • Eric Doeding

      You’d have to upgrade. This is LTE band 12. Not currently supported by the iPhone line up.

  • randian

    Big chunks of the country missing though. Las Vegas, Seattle, and Phoenix anybody?

    • Tom

      Seattle is well covered already through their previous license and metropcs spectrum. Don’t forget that we have nationwide aws spectrum. However tmobile just hasn’t built their network there

  • LaGurl323

    makes me happy all off california seems to be covered since i live in LA and go to oakland and san fransisco alot only thing im not liking at all is nevada i guess in vegas we tmobile customers will be again without service in casinos and hotels? Sucks since i also go to vegas sometimes and i know how tmobile service can get pretty bad deep inside the casino while att and verizon work fine . Also does anyone know if these new 700 band is only for data ? I think it would be sucky if this new band fixed signal in buildings but only for data and not calls it would kinda suck .

    • 21stNow

      Which casinos cause problems for your T-Mobile phone? The Golden Nugget downtown and MGM Grand on the strip were fine for me on T-Mobile. I don’t remember what it was like in Caesar’s Palace when I was there and probably didn’t check down at Luxor and Excalibur and up at Stratosphere (too busy having fun those nights!).

      Maybe you could speak to the hotel/casino operators, as I would think that they would have to have repeaters in those vast casinos with no windows. Maybe they have repeaters for the big two but not the smaller carriers.

  • Diver Dan

    This added spectrum must make people in California, Texas and the North East very excited. I live in Illinois and drive frequently between Chicago and Springfield. My phone drops from LTE or HSPA to EDGE and GPRS when I drive between these cities. The EDGE service cannot be full speed EDGE. It is almost unusable even for reading mail. What is TMO’s plan for the corridors between metro areas that have LTE service?

    I understand that TMO cannot blanket every rural square mile with LTE. Why not create some corridors between metro areas along the interstate highways. Redeploy your older equipment that is faster than EDGE.

    • philyew

      As Conan Kudo pointed out some months ago, the old equipment is so old that it is no longer supported.

      I’m hoping that TM will find sufficient funds from the $3.8 billion they raised recently for such capital expenditure that they will be able to do precisely what you suggest, using the new equipment.

      Most of these highways should be serviced by fiber, which will overcome the biggest challenge to footprint expansion.

  • $15454173

    “An agreed “?” billions break up fee to be paid by AT&T, roaming agreements with AT&T and additional mobile licenses for T-Mobile USA.”(not sure of actual $ amount)

    AT&T break up money reinvested.

    • philyew

      Hmmm…not really.

      They spent $1.4 billion of the cash, plus utilized the included spectrum, during the network modernization program that upgraded 30,000+ cell sites (overall target is 37,000, but it hasn’t been reached yet), moving HSPA+ service onto the PCS band, and adding LTE to the AWS band.

      Deutsche Telekom used the rest of the money as immediate relief for their debt situation in Europe.

      The money for this acquisition was raised recently when TM ran a sale of common stock and sold some senior notes, which together raised around $3.8 billion.

  • YES! My market Detroit is one of the places T-Mobile is getting 700mHZ spectrum. :D :D :D My Tremendous service will be even more Stellar.  We already have an absolute ton of Spectrum here, now its Unbelievable amount. : D (more Valuable also)

    • maximus1901

      Look at this map

      http://www{DOT}attpublicpolicy{DOT}com/wireless/no-mhz-left-behind/

      That red blob is awfully close to Detroit.

      • Outdated information, the government has already disallowed DTV in this area. Also, you always seem to be a troll pessimistic. You’re incorrect either way..

  • ghulamsameer

    This is awesome! When can we expect the spectrum to be fully T-Mobile functional?

  • Dakota

    News media are already reporting that in the wake of this, Dish stock has risen to its highest levels in a decade. That may signal what may be coming up for T-Mobile….. At least investors seem to think so. With CES starting, it will be interesting to see if things start moving quickly

    • Warden

      I’m thinking Dish should start selling T-mo branded phones like a MVNO but, at the same time let T-mobile use and control Dish’s unused spectrum.

  • sahiblopez

    So I have a question . So currently in the city I live in has only 2g but on this map that shows were it covers in Cali and my city falls under it. So my question is, is there a possibility of getting maybe 3g or lte :D?

    • mingkee

      It’s definitely LTE.

      • sahib102 .

        I hope so because its not fun to have just 2g in my area when the other cities in northern cali have lte :O

    • Tom

      They will probably build out their lte there in the by the next year. Why build backwards with 3g?

      • sahib102 .

        lack of spectrum ? :/

  • mingkee

    Even it’s not nationwide, it will greatly help service in suburban areas in Tri-State area.

  • disgruntled employee

    Great to see my area (capital region NY) is still not getting any love from T-Mobile. Lots of places around here (ex. Gloversville/Johnstown NY) where the other 3 have LTE and T-Mobile has NO SERVICE. that’s right, not edge, not GPRS, but… NO SERVICE. tough being a sales rep for this company in an area so awfully neglected by network expansion projects.

    • maximus1901

      If they have no service then there wouldn’t be a sales rep.

      • disgruntled employee

        The place I work there is obviously service but the surrounding areas are a different story. I’ve gotten used to big red and bell having lte in no service zones but now even sprint does which I find pathetic.

  • Zack S

    How soon will T-mobile customers actually see the boost in coverage? Is it immediate or will it be a few months?

    • philyew

      All license transfers have to be approved by the FCC and they have to go through a formal process allowing objections. It will take several months to complete.

    • donnybee

      Also, it won’t be a boost in coverage like it’s been in the past. Barely any current handsets will be able to work on that new band, and to the best of my knowledge the ones that currently support it aren’t sold through T-Mobile. For instance the Moto X. But T-Mobile will be adding supported devices to their lineup ahead of the network launch, I’m sure.

      Think of it as a new type of network rather than a boost in coverage since you’ll need a device that can support it. Both the network launch and obtaining a compatible device need to happen before you will see this huge benefit. So if you were planning on getting a new phone anytime soon, now you know what to look out for!

      • philyew

        Feels like this is what Jump! was made for ;-)

        • donnybee

          Yeah no kidding! I just love T-Mobile :)

      • CPPCrispy

        They said that they will start to roll out the network and devices sometime in Q4. Just in time for the next Nexus smartphone.

        • Zack S

          Exactly :)

  • randian

    The Moto X supports Band 12.

  • Aurizen

    YES!!!!!!! Philly is included!!!! SOMEONE GIVE JOHN LEGERE A RAISE WHAT HE GETS ISN’T ENOUGH.

    Anyway when will this take place? is it only for LTE? or HSPA+

    • donnybee

      Should be sometime in Q4, but you won’t start to see any difference until you obtain a device supporting Band 12 as well. So start saving that cash! haha

      I’m still wondering what they’ll do about interference from TV on that A-block..

      • Aurizen

        I guess the iphone doesn’t support Band 12

        • donnybee

          I’ll have to look into it. I have an iPhone 5 that was unlocked from AT&T. I’m not sure if any of the current models have Block A. I’ll see if I can find out.

        • Aurizen

          It doesn’t I just looked it up… I hope they get more spectrum that supports more phones.

        • donnybee

          I agree. But I also have a feeling that this will be such a strong network connection for T-Mobile in these major markets that manufacturers will start implementing Band 12 in their devices.

          Or at least I hope it will be as strong as we’re expecting. Do you know if the A-Block will be vacated by TV broadcasters? If not, I would imagine that would be pretty heavy interference.

        • Aurizen

          Not sure I think som still use that frequency Something about channel 52?

        • maximus1901

          http://www{DOT}attpublicpolicy{DOT}com/wireless/no-mhz-left-behind/

        • donnybee

          Wow @maximus1901:disqus! Thanks for the link that’s pretty interesting. I see that article is a little old, but it seems it’s still an issue. I wonder how long it will take to vacate the band 12 spectrum.. I see on that AT&T map that Boston is marked as having 700mhz blocked, but it seems from this article T-Mobile has that spectrum up there already. Does T-Mobile just own the spectrum license up there or have they already begun to deploy band 12 up there?

          It’s amazing to me that the FCC will allow telecommunications companies to buy spectrum that they aren’t allowed to deploy. They shouldn’t be able to auction off spectrum until it’s able to be used immediately by the purchaser.

        • Guest

          Nope, neither the iPhone 5 or 5S support this network.

      • maximus1901

        They’ll wait until ch51 is moved sometime in 2016.

        http://www{DOT}attpublicpolicy{DOT}com/wireless/no-mhz-left-behind/

    • taron19119

      It wu be used for LTE

  • Dark enV

    Sucks that SC isn’t getting any 700MHz love. We have a lot of areas out here mainly on 2G or No Service. Oh well maybe we’ll still see some improvements in the near future.

  • Baz

    Does anyone know if the Moto X for T-Mo will be able to take advantage of this A-block 700MHz spectrum? When can we expect it to be deployed?

    • maximus1901

      No current phone supports Band 12 except for S4 mini on US Cellular (phonearena).

      • randian

        US Cellular Moto X does as well (XT1055).

        • Alex Zapata

          Yes, but I don’t think it has any GSM radios.

  • samsavoy

    I bet they were prevented from complaining about Verizon as part of this deal. They attacked AT&T pretty hard but never went after Verizon that much at all in their ads, who is just as expensive and arguably more restrictive over their network.

    • UMA_Fan

      Verizon caters to a specific need. They have tons of low band spectrum therefore a very consistent network even when traveling to the boonies. At&t gained market share over the years thanks to their iPhone exclusivity. Tmobiles argument is that they are overpriced for no reason.

      • maximus1901

        ATT has 270mil LTE today and will have 300mil mid 2014 AND they’re less $ than Verizon soooooo . . . .the “price high” “for no reason” will soon be invalid.

        • emcdonald75

          How is AT&T less than Verizon? You must have in mind their prepaid services, such as AIO Wireless, Straight Talk or Go Phone. Verizon and AT&T have, for the most part, similar prices. I am curious about this new Sponsored Data program AT&T just announced. What is that about?

        • maximus1901

          I don’t have ATT but I remember their prices are like $5 less than VZW.

    • philyew

      Actually, it wasn’t that long ago that they filed a complaint with the FCC, if my memory serves me correctly. Each time they have done a deal with Verizon, it has been preceded by some issue raised with the FCC.

    • BlackJu

      They pick on AT&T because of the similarities in their network. It is easy to switch to T-Mobile with the handsets people already have (after unlocking). Verizon doesn’t have a lot of overlap with Tmo, but it does have the 1900 MHz, which makes their phones compatible in refarmed areas. No LTE compatibility though.

    • xmiro

      Leger targeted all. He calls out AT&T for a reason. Verizon sells you on it’s vast network, something T-Mobile simply cannot compete with

    • maximus1901

      Most Verizon phones cannot be used on TMO without much tinkering and re-flashing.

  • tmobile

    YES!!! finally upper Michigan will get LTE

    • maximus1901

      No. TMO will not LIKELY expand LTE outside of their current GSM footprint; exception MAY be freeways, touristy places.

  • Alex

    Yes California will now get awesome coverage, thank you Jesus!!!

    • maestroalvarez

      Did you mean, thank you Johnny? he he he ;)

    • Alex v

      Looks like all of California except San Diego…damn

      • maximus1901

        All of California except the big red circles

        http://www{DOT}attpublicpolicy{DOT}com/wireless/no-mhz-left-behind/

        until sometime in 2016.

  • bryck

    Finally love for the state of Connecticut. :-)

  • PiCASSiMO

    Can someone send me the link to a better (higher resolution) map? We’ve got a cottage near Coloma, MI and I want to make sure that this extra spectrum will cover that area. Currently we have “G” speeds.

    • philyew

      If you can find your way through the advanced search filtering system, you can search for Verizon 700MHz A block licenses here and drill down to a particular geographic area:

      http://reboot.fcc{dot}gov/reform/systems/spectrum-dashboard

    • PiCASSiMO

      Will existing phones like Nexus 4 or Nexus 5 have the necessary bands to receive data on the new 700Mhz spectrum?

      Looking at the Nexus 5 specs, LTE Band 17 fits the bill… but I’m not sure:

      North America:
      GSM: 850/900/1800/1900 MHz
      CDMA: Band Class: 0/1/10
      WCDMA: Bands: 1/2/4/5/6/8/19
      LTE: Bands: 1/2/4/5/17/19/25/26/41

      And does the unofficial Nexus 4 LTE bands include 17?

      • philyew

        The 700MHz A block is LTE band 12, so no, none of the current Nexus devices will work.

      • Alex Zapata

        Unfortunately, the lower A block is only part of band 12 so none of the nexus devices will support it. You can blame the horrible management of the 700MHz auctions for creating band 12,13,14 and 17 out of what really should have been more like 1 or 2 band classes.

        • maximus1901

          They should’ve used the APT 700 MHz band plan; only band class is Band 28.

        • Alex Zapata

          Exactly! I’ve been saying this since day 1, but this is America where lobbyists rule.

    • Simply The Doctor

      I looked it up, and it doesn’t look like Verizon has any block A spectrum near there. The only one who does is US Cellular.

  • Chris

    So, dont buy a new phone til December since I live in minneapolis. Exciting times.

  • Danny Lewis

    It looks like Cincinatti is finally going to get LTE!

  • Bori

    “T-Mobile anticipates rolling out service and compatible handsets on this A-Block spectrum as early as the fourth quarter of 2014”

    In other words, by the beginning of what, October? I’ll save the excitement for then. For now I am hoping for some real excitement Wednesday.

    • xmiro

      some devices already support the A-block already I think. Just have to push an update to them

      • maximus1901

        no they don’t. Do they support Band 12?
        Band 17 is B+C, Band 12 is A+B+C.

      • Bori

        I have been looking through the specs on my LG G2, but have not been able to find anything in reference to that. But it would be nice if it did, not that I plan to keep it till then, I am sure there will be more appealing devices by the end of the year.

  • Jack Paschke

    I almost squealed when i saw that blob of magenta over northern Colorado! I think Tmo’s biggest problem has been indoor coverage and building penetration, as well as wild signal fluctuations when driving through a metro area. 700mhz is great for this as well as for making it easier to cover places like NoCo, where everyone is very spread out. hope to see this come to fruition in 2014!

    • maximus1901

      Take a look at the ch51 exclusion zones

      http://www{DOT}attpublicpolicy{DOT}com/wireless/no-mhz-left-behind/

      your squeal’s tone may change.

      • Wow, at it again? don’t you have anything better to do than spread misinformation?

        • maximus1901

          Don’t you have anything better to do than NOT bring any new information to this discussion?
          How is this misinformation?

      • Jack Paschke

        Not saying you don’t have a point, but this article is 2 years old and I can’t find anything else about it.

  • guest

    Unfortunately, the map suggests northern virginia is not covered :(

    • guest

      Oops I may be wrong, went to Verizon map and looks like parts of NOVA is there!

  • maximus1901

    Let’s not get TOO excited because in areas where channel 51 is located, TMO cannot turn on its A-block until AFTER ch51 is moved. Since 600 MHz auction is occurring mid-2015, that means .. . . sometime in 2016.

    Here’s the map with the ch51 exclusion zones.

    http://www{DOT}attpublicpolicy{DOT}com/wireless/no-mhz-left-behind/

    As the saying goes, read it and weep. Your new phone in 2014 MAY have Band 12 but if you’re in one of the big, red circles, it’s 2016 until your phone can take advantage of it.

    • Marcoshay

      And what does yellow county mean? South western AZ is where I live and currently are on Edge. I’m not looking to wait until 4th quarter to see lte turn on here in a different frequency none the less. :/

      • xmiro

        the yellow is EA – economic area – it’s what the FCC uses to sell blocks of spectrum licensed to certain geographic areas

      • maximus1901

        TMO’s current immediate plan is to turn on LTE where they already have HSPA+ on AWS.
        They haven’t announced anything beyond that (except for this news).

  • Marcoshay

    Yuma is on this map for this new spectrum just bought. But I have to buy a new phone for it? I really hope they deploy LTE that is compatible with my phone and put this 700 MHz band on top of it.

    • maximus1901

      Band 12 is not supported by any ATT, TMO, VZW, Sprint phone.

  • steveb944

    Woo hoo FLORIDA!!!! Awesome!

    • maximus1901

      Check the red blobs

      http://www{DOT}attpublicpolicy{DOT}com/wireless/no-mhz-left-behind/

      • don’t listen to him @steveb944:disqus he knows not what he speaks about.

        • maximus1901

          Well ATT does and their article says no Band 12 in red blobs until Ch51 is cleared.

      • dpro

        Ah you are citing a report from 2012. Which is pretty much old news. By the time this deal is wrapped up and equipment deployed for700mhz band 12 the ch51 issue will be cleared. Fact is the FCC has been pushing TV broadcasters off ch51 like its going out of style.That was one of the big reasons for them pushing Digital broadcast to get them off the spectrum with their older analog equipment.That way the FCC could move forward with the sale of all lower band spectrum.

        • maximus1901

          Completely wrong. Check out slide 18/25

          at

          http://assets{DOT}fiercemarkets{DOT}net/public/mdano/amis/700-tmobile-verizon{DOT}pdf

          “A-Block build-out can start in 2014 outside the Ch.51 Service contours with more than 50% of covered population in such areas”

          Hmmmm . . . . OUTSIDE of ch51 service contours.

          Dude seriously. I pasted this PDF for a reason. Don’t be drop-dead lazy. Copy-paste the link and READ.

        • philyew

          Unfortunately, the incentive auction which is part of the FCC plan is now delayed until 2015.

      • steveb944

        I had read up on this previously. I live in South Florida so I have no issues. Plus, our phones aren’t even compatible yet with band 12 so by the time we have compatible devices I’m sure we’ll be fine

  • emcdonald75

    So hopefully T-mobile will start aggressively buying the other A-Block spectrum licenses to try and make this 700 MHz Spectrum as nationwide as possible. Go after C-Spire, US Cellular and other regional operators or owners of the A-Block Spectrum. It should only cost 1-1.5 billion dollars more for the other licenses. I hope anyway.

    • KP

      Look for M&A with midwest carrier..

      • randian

        US Cellular? They have spectrum, but their network and customers are worthless to T-Mobile because it’s CDMA.

        • maximus1901

          You mean like MetroPCS? lol

        • maximus1901

          But seriously, you’re right they’re not gonna buy USC because:
          1) if they were serious about buying someone else, they would’ve gone for Leap wireless
          2) The NUMBER ONE reason why they bought Metro is so they could go public without having an IPO; it’s at least tied with getting additional 9mil customers
          3) Profile of USC’s customers is completely different from Metro’s: contract, no quick phone turnover, would’ve had to run the CDMA network in parallel for MANY years
          4) Carlson family doesn’t want to sell USC.

        • philyew

          Don’t underestimate the spectrum position. The deal also got them over the hump in the New York and Philadelphia MSAs so they could deploy 20+20 LTE. That represents over 10% of their 4G footprint.

        • Alex Zapata

          That doesn’t make them worthless. Look at MetroPCS.

        • fentonr

          metropcs was CDMA too, they have done a pretty bang up job converting those customers so far.

    • Chris

      I totally agree with you as a METRO PCS customer !!!

    • maximus1901

      Why would it only cost that much? This transaction was for 158mil POPs and cost $2.4bil in cash and $900mil in spectrum.

      • emcdonald75

        Because they are buying smaller licenses from a multitude of smaller regional operators. They probably will not charge as much for the licenses than a larger cellular operator, but I’m just guessing.

        • maximus1901

          Or, they know TMO is desperate for the A block so they will charge much more.

          TMO could just partner with them and offer Band 12 roaming access. That would solve the Mexican standoff.

        • emcdonald75

          That’s true. But many of these operators may not be planning to build out the spectrum to provide roaming support. Let’s hope they will build out the spectrum and do something similar to Verizon’s Rural Alliance. That worked great. Plus, some of these areas have no voice coverage by T-Mobile, so I thought maybe T-Mobile might just buy the spectrum and build out for more nationwide voice and data coverage.

    • kev2684

      who is continuum 700? they need to be bought. they own the license for northeast fl, south east ga. lol

  • maximus1901

    Here are the TMO investor slides on this transaction

    http://assets{DOT}fiercemarkets{DOT}net/public/mdano/amis/700-tmobile-verizon{DOT}pdf

    • maximus1901

      Looks like it’s not just cash: TMO also gives up

      AWS, 34mil POPs

      PCS, 21mil POPs

      I wonder how much spectrum TMO will have left in those areas.

      • philyew

        After the MetroPCS deal, they had at least 50MHz of LTE spectrum in the following markets: NY, LA, Dallas, Detroit, Boston, San Francisco, Tampa, Sacramento, Las Vegas, Orlando. (Source: Capital Markets Day slide deck December 2012).

        They said in today’s deck “Spectrum dispositions will not impair our ability to reach 20+20 MHz 4G LTE in 90% of Top 25 metro areas in 2014 and beyond.”

        • maximus1901

          LOL (at me not you).

          http://assets{DOT}fiercemarkets{DOT}net/public/mdano/amis/700-tmobile-verizon{DOT}pdf

          Look at slides 24-25: specifies the markets where they’re giving up AWS, PCS and where exactly they’ll have the Band 12.

        • maximus1901

          From slides 24-25, likes like TMO was willing to trade away spectrum as long it they kept at least 40MHz in the given band.

    • maximus1901

      Also, on slide 17/25, TMO says

      “Mitigation techniques exists to shrink these zones today”

      regardint the ch51 zones.

    • donnybee

      The slide 6/25 says buildout can begin immediately after closing on the licenses. Do you think that excludes the key cities that still have Channel 51? Or do they mean they can start everywhere?

      • maximus1901

        Slide 18/25 answers your question; the title is “Early Deployment Opportunity”

        “A-Block build-out can start in 2014 outside the Ch.51 Service contours with more than 50% of covered population in such areas”

        So even though their purchase covers 158mil, they can only cover roughly half that until ch51 is fixed.

        “Initial markets where Ch.51 is not present include Washington DC, Dallas, Philadelphia, Houston, Miami and Minneapolis”

        They’re going to start deploying right after they close the deal.

        So yes, that excludes the cities with ch51 issues.

        • donnybee

          That’s interesting. Thanks for the info! Now we all know what to be prepared for. I think what intrigues me most out of these slides is that they make mention of their intentions to participate in the AWS-3 and 600MHz auctions!

          Good things are happening!

      • maximus1901

        But all is not lost.

        Slide 17/25

        “Mitigation techniques exists to shrink these zones today”

        So if you’re on the edge of the red circles, you’ll be able to get band 12.

    • PiCASSiMO

      Thank you…

      T-Mobile should by the A-Block from Leap wireless in Chicago and gain another 8.5 POPs.

      • fentonr

        Chicago is pretty well covered although the data speeds are pretty bad. Additional spectrum would certainly help.

  • hotpepper

    Will the unlocked T-Mobile iPhone 5S work with the new band once it’s rolled out?

    • randian

      No current iPhone supports band 12.

      • hotpepper

        Does this mean I have to get a new phone to support this band? or can T-Mobile simple push an update out?

        • dontsh00tmesanta

          new phone

      • dontsh00tmesanta

        Which phone does?

        • randian

          US Cellular Moto X

        • dontsh00tmesanta

          nice

  • Chris

    Great New as a Metro PCS customer here in Michigan they need to expand more in the upper Michigan northern Michigan where there no signal great news looking forward to this !!!

  • Encino Stan

    Verizon lists the following markets covered by the 23 lower 700 MHz A Block
    licenses that Verizon Wireless will transfer to T-Mobile under the two
    agreements: New York NY, Cleveland OH, Houston TX, Philadelphia PA, Detroit MI, San Antonio TX (yeah!), Washington DC –Baltimore MD, Grand Rapids MI, Denver CO, Orlando FL, Indianapolis IN, Los Angeles CA, Miami FL, Kansas City MO, Fresno CA, Tampa FL, Minneapolis MN, San Francisco CA, Atlanta GA, Dallas TX, Sacramento CA, Cincinnati OH, Austin TX

    http://www.verizonwireless[dot]com/news/article/2014/01/spectrum-license-transactions.html

    • maximus1901

      http://assets{DOT}fiercemarkets{DOT}net/public/mdano/amis/700-tmobile-verizon{DOT}pdf

      slides 24-25.

      • Anonymouse

        ^slide 17: Early Deployment Opportunity

        Initial markets where Ch.51 is not present include Washington DC, Dallas, Philadelphia, Houston, Miami and Minneapolis

    • dontsh00tmesanta

      But california is mostly covered in red…..rural areas thoughout the san joaquin valley.

      Not just fresno

  • maximus1901

    Something that did NOT bring a smile to my face:

    “Disciplined in evaluation of future A-Block transactions”, slide 12/25

    http://assets{DOT}fiercemarkets{DOT}net/public/mdano/amis/700-tmobile-verizon{DOT}pdf

    This means they are NOT going to be trigger-happy in buying additional A block from other people.
    :(

    • donnybee

      Maybe that’s because it will be secondary spectrum acquisitions. I wonder if their plan, out west for example – or even mid-west rural areas, is to get 600MHz from the auction. It could possibly be cheaper than secondary market acquisitions and overall have generous benefits as well. The slides make light of the $3.8B cash on hand after this transaction, so maybe A-Block isn’t the answer going forward, but instead was more of a stop-gap at this point.

    • @maximus1901:disqus I apologize, I shouldn’t have jumped down your throat like I did earlier. I can tell, you are knowledgeable about these things. sorry.

  • Dang, none in Washington! They need to make the LTE network much better in Spokane. My Nexus 5 hardly ever gets more than one bar on LTE and very poor speeds that are lower than HSPA+.

  • Rick Rudge

    I’m so happy to see more magenta on the map; especially in California. When I’ve visited my family in the Central Valley, many times I would get no service at all. Now that looks very promising. I don’t understand this whole spectrum buyout. Is this automatic or does T-Mobile still need to do work on these towers to get these signals up and running? Anyway. That’s good news. Thanks for posting, Cam.

    • Moby

      Nothing automatic. They have to do the work to build the network, then everyone in that area has to get a new device that will take be able to use the new band.

      • fentonr

        Agreed, I’m happy to see the coverage in northwest Wisconsin which is pretty awful now, and I’m sure will be some of the last to be built out but at least they can now.

    • kalel33

      In many of those places T-mobile doesn’t even have towers but with the spectrum they should be able to build out towers or lease space on existing towers.

  • GreatNews

    According to the map NY won’t get anything batter?

    • Tom

      What? It shows the whole Hudson valley up to around Kingston as covered. Which is also the most populated section of the state. This would help a lot because currently, it’s mostly edge. The few places where I see HSPA , it’s ridiculously slow, average around 200kbps download and upload which is pitiful. Hope this rollout is just as quick as last year’s LTE was.

  • geo

    Very pleased to see the spectrum in MN. Very frustrating that the I35 corridor is not covered currently. Even tho this looks like is stops just short of Duluth, it will still help quite a lot!

  • dontsh00tmesanta

    My next jump phone will be one with 700mhz yee

  • JBLmobileG1

    Something is up in the Las Vegas and Henderson NV area…. I’ve noticed the network has been slow and using speed tests, either they completely fail, or are really slow. Hopefully it’s some type of update that will launch the new 20×20 LTE otherwise Tmobile is in big trouble. CES is here this week, if this doesn’t get fixed, Tmobile might be the laughing stock of the show.

    • JBLmobileG1

      I can’t even watch a YouTube video without it buffering. It’s sllloooowwwwww.

    • philyew

      It wouldn’t be the first time they have cranked up the local network before CES. They’re probably going through a bunch of tuning to make sure it comes across in top shape. Still, if I was doing it, I’d have tried to get it finished last week…

      • JBLmobileG1

        I agree. The speeds are starting to come back , but they are what I use to get with standard 3G. 6mb down and 2 to 3 up. I am use to pulling in closer to 30 up and about 30 down. Hopefully Tmobile gets the ball rolling soon. It shows I have 4G LTE on my Note 2, but it doesn’t seem like it. My battery also seems like it’s been taking a hit. Really odd.

    • Ellay

      Same here, Troy/Royal oak, MI. I had issues last night, but they resolved today 33Down, 14Up

  • Mystery Man

    Your IM5 crappy ad completley takes over the web page. Please refrain from 1990’s advertising. Thanks

    • philyew

      I guess it depends on the browser you use…it’s pretty well-behaved on the page I’m looking at.

      I take that back…it’s a mess! CAM!!!!!

    • M1A1D

      AdBlock went back on for me because of it.

      • mingkee

        I have done one step further to put ad sites onto blacklist of the network firewall to protect all devices on my house network.
        This is a responsibility of a network admin.

  • Thor

    That IM5 add thing made it impossible to comment on the page or anything. It didnt allow me to click on any article and then it would take me to the im5 main page. I finally managed to block it. But it is preventing people from accessing the site. Thank god phone still works.

  • keasycase

    All new phones coming out for T-Mobile most likely will have band 12… T-Mobile is smart with stuff like that

  • Thor

    Install adblock and then right click on the add and say that you want to block it and it will do it. It is extremely cumbersome to try to click on an article and go to a different page. Cam Please do something about this!!!

    • philyew

      I’ve sent him a couple of emails as well.

      The ad displays some behavior I’ve never seen before. While it was screwing up every browser in sight on the phone, it was behaving as normal on my laptop. After a while though the ad started appearing in both side bars as well as the top of the page. Then it started behaving the same way on the laptop as on the phone. Obviously designed to pass initial testing before it started behaving maliciously.

  • cubanito151

    Man VA never gets the love from T-Mobile. Can’t wait for hspa+, the 3g here sucks. Its like edge; too many people on it.

  • philyew

    Has anyone found a way to fix the IM5 ad issue on the smartphone? I’ve been unable to do it despite flushing cache and installing Adblock.

    What I’ve just discovered is that IM5 is owned by the same guy that owns Phonedog….which is probably why Cam has been unable to do anything to fix it, despite calls for action here and by email.

    http://www.postandcourier{dot}com/article/20130722/PC05/130729968

    Way to go killing your own site.

  • Chris

    According to the map i am from Michigan i am a METRO PCS customer does this include the upper Michigan Northern part of Michigan where there no service at all that would be nice to have !!!

  • donnybee

    This talk of the 700MHz bands is an interesting discussion. It may be due to poor management that we now have 4 different bands on the 700MHz wavelength, but when comparing to other plans that were overruled, such as creating just one band in the 700MHz wavelength – which would be more difficult; to make a phone that would support one large band (had that been the outcome), or one that supports the wide array of bands in the 700MHz wavelength? If they made a device that could transmit on all the 700MHz (minus the Dish interference) wouldn’t that be the same as if they lumped 700MHz into one band? And would it support all the segregated bands of today?

  • Owl_81

    Did “major metro areas” really need more support? How about coverage in areas where it still remains poor. I moved from Philly to Upstate NY. My coverage was great in Philly, an area they continue to improve. But in Upstate NY it is awful! It is to the point where I am considering ATT’s $450 promotion, because at least I would have coverage!

    • philyew

      Just think about some numbers…

      There are 229 million people in the areas that TM has already deployed their 3G/HSPA+/LTE network.

      TM has about 45 million customers in total. That means that there are at least 184 million people INSIDE those areas who are NOT with TM. One of the biggest reasons that people say they won’t use TM is because they have poor indoor signal in the cities.

      The current total population is about 314 million. That means there are at most only 85 million people living OUTSIDE those areas who are not with TM.

      If you were deciding where to spend your money, would it be on buying spectrum guaranteed to improve reception in many of the cities, which can be deployed quickly in most locations, and which has a much higher return on investment per cell site, thus increasing the possibility that the 184 million came to your company with a much higher revenue?

      Or would you spend your money deploying new technology across a much larger area, with a lower return on investment per cell site, in pursuit of less than half that number of potential customers?

      Seriously, if it was your dollar, you would do exactly what TM is doing.

      • Owl_81

        Danny Tam-I don’t get great coverage in many parts of Upstate NY. In some areas I have no coverage and when it picks up for a moment, often results in dropped calls. Look at T-Mobile coverage map. You will see that they even show that many areas have no coverage. Sure, I might not live in those areas, but while driving through a snow storm, I would like to know that I have some kind of coverage in case something happens and I would like to contact help. And this is on top of having no data coverage where T-Mobile states 2G is available.

        Philyew-Your argument sounds like much of it is based on hearsay. for example, when I lived in Philly and travel back there I rarely had problems with coverage inside or outside of buildings. Sure, it may not be at blazing fast speeds at all times, but I had decent coverage with the ability to make calls and use data. I was just in Philly for a week and did not have a single problem with T-Mobile. So yes, we could continue to let this claim proliferate that urban areas are suffering with slow speeds. Or we can look at reality. T-Mobile has stores in Syracuse and Rochester, NY. They are clearly trying to market their service to this region. However, when driving the hour and half in between both cities coverage drop, so it is no wonder that they have a poor market here. Building out their coverage is all areas is where it makes the most sense if the company wants to stay in business. As Einstein said, “We can’t solve problems by using the same kind of thinking we used when we created them.” If T-Mobile continues to solve their coverage problems with the same thinking over and over, it isn’t going to get them very far.

        • philyew

          Which part is hearsay?

          The population numbers which demonstrate that there are still more than twice the number of potential new customers in the areas already covered by TM’s 3G/4G footprint than in the rest of the country put together?

          The science which can prove that a carrier with sub 1GHz coverage can expect much better structural penetration than one with only AWS and PCS spectrum?

          The fact that TM has just done a deal with Verizon to acquire 700MHz spectrum, mostly inside the existing 3G/4G footprint, which is worth over $3 billion in cash and traded spectrum?

          I may not have the hard numbers to prove that in-building coverage is a marketing issue for TM, but it is a stone cold certainty that the company has market analysis which has made them focus on incremental solutions to that problem over recent years. They are the only company offering baked-in wifi calling features on their phones and their plans. They made a specific point that their network modernization program in 2012-13 would mitigate part of the problem. Most recently they have just dropped a further $3 billion on a solution.

          You don’t dilute the value of your shareholding issuing common stock and sell off future revenue to raise almost $4 billion and then give it away without there being solid numbers supporting that as the best investment strategy. With less than half the customer base of the big two carriers and with a smaller revenue per customer, TM absolutely has to prioritize spending into capital budgets that have the largest potential rate of return.

          It isn’t hearsay to put all the above together and conclude that providing an urban service comparable with all other carriers, at a superior price, will yield a better return than any alternative program at the moment.

          That doesn’t mean that improvements outside the cities are entirely off the agenda. Aging equipment will have to be replaced, and when it is, the new equipment will be capable of using AWS licenses that are held in areas that currently offer only 2G service, even if they don’t immediately upgrade backhaul to be able to support LTE service.

          Because of the added range of the 700MHz signal, suburban coverage will improve and as a result there will be fewer 2G-only areas immediately surrounding the cities where it is deployed.

          Where fiber backhaul is affordably accessible, along larger highways and in small towns along those highways, I expect to see some improvement in the 4G footprint. In all though, it will likely come up short of of a comprehensive program in 2014 to upgrade the company’s 2G-only footprint.

          It would be nice if I was wrong. We’ll see.

    • dtam

      yes they do. you get great coverage outside but even with 2 bars and LTE inside, you still might not get data

  • Jay J. Blanco

    This is a great deal. T-Mobile will really have a edge competing for customers. Hope they buy U.S. Cellular 700mhz next.

  • vinnyjr

    T-Mobile just keeps getting better. Their Network is faster than all the other Carriers in my suburb out of Boston. No other Carrier is even close. My family has had them all and are slowly but surely all jumping on board with T-Mobile. Thank You T-Mobile.

  • a

    They hit the two areas in my experience had terrible coverage. All of Michigan was a dead zone, as was anywhere outside of urban areas in Indiana. They seem to be covered in these markets now. So for me, this news is better than good.

    • Metro Detroit and its Major suburbs (Livonia, Novi, Ann Arbor etc) all have fantastic coverage and has some of the most spectrum than any other Market. I assume you’re talking about Up North..

  • Eric

    Finally some love for south central PA. Hopefully we get some 4g over here. Ill even be happy with 3g.

  • RT

    When are they going to improve coverage in Cleveland TN? All of the major carriers have 4g coverage except for T-Mobile. They only have edge, and its a pretty decent population of customers who use T-mobile there. Myself included..

  • Laststop311

    AWESOME live in north east ohio, yay I get 700mhz spectrum