New One-Size-Fits-All Value Plan Brochures Begin Arriving In T-Mobile Retail Stores

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T-Mobile is one step closer toward UNcarrier life with the receipt of new Value Plan brochures arriving in company-owned retail stores across the nation. As we first posted in early March, T-Mobile’s move to a Value Plan only corporate environment begins on March 24th and to that end, the move to a one-size-fits-all rate plan makes complete sense. Gone are the contracts and overages, hello to one easy to follow and understand pricing.

Thankfully, T-Mobile’s using plenty of pictures to help all of this make sense as well two example breakdowns for both individual and family plans. There’s plenty of new branding here, with the giant “Simple” text on the brochure hopefully showing T-Mobile is working to simplify all the things after serving up two sets of rate plans led to some confusing times. Is it Un-complicated? Is it really that Simple? We hope so and I feel compelled to say that I prefer the UNcarrier tag line over “stick together.”

“Find the perfect plan, with no need to sign an annual contract.” Sounds good to me.

Don’t forget the new Classic Plans for national retailers launching soon as well.

The following three pictures are all the same, just throwing them in for good measure.

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  • George Millhouse

    t-maybe needs to lay off the constant plan changes . Its ridiculous already

    • 21stNow

      I know. I’ve been here for less than three years and this is the third set of plans in that time.

    • galaxymaniac

      they will try all the plans in their book as long as their postpaid customer base keeps dropping…

    • Ford_Thundercougarfalconbird

      Pizza Hut reinvents the pizza every few weeks, Pepsi reinvents the soda every few months, Carriers will reinvent the plan every few months. It’s inevitable. Necesary? No, but inevitable.

  • galaxymaniac

    so what happens to all the suckers signed up for Value Plans over the past few months with a 2 year contract and went around ranting how they saved money and the paid shills who were pushing them?

    • sincarafan247

      Some people could care less about the contracts especially if they signed up on the already existing value plan which is the same and don’t plan on leaving t-mobile anyways.

      • Khalints

        Existing value plans are not the same, in fact I would save 10 dollars if I switched to the new plans in the flier + I would get unlimited minutes (currently have 500). Don’t need the extra minutes, but getting them AND saving $10 a month? I would not say no to that.

        • MaseW

          You would still be able to switch to the new plan. T-Mobile has always let people switch their plans during the term of their contract.

          Of course switching to the new plan won’t “void” your current contract, but you can still get the new pricing.

        • Khalints

          Ah, if that’s the case then this is good news. Thanks!

        • Herb

          I doubt that the UNcarrier plans will be available to people still under contract.

        • sincarafan247

          Guess it depends which plan you have then. The plan I have right now under contract on the value plan will be exactly the same when they go no contract.

    • John

      That is businesses as usual. You don’t see car salesmen tell you not to buy a car in April because the new model will be out in a few months. Put your big boy pants on.

      • galaxymaniac

        you’re comparing a 2 year contract with a car sale? this is for a continual monthly service, not a product. If there was any comparison, its like the old Value plan customers picked a 24 month lease, while the customers from next month onwards get the exact same car month to month. And yes, like car salesmen, T-mobile was doing some bait and switch here

        • John

          It’s not bait and switch, the reps didn’t know of the new plans until about 2 weeks ago. Secondly, the plans do slightly change, so not same thing to same thing. People whining about businesses changing things really don’t make sense to me. They are making moves to be different and profitable. Yes, I said it, they want to make money. Guess what, UNICEF isn’t in the cell phone business, maybe they will be one day, but until then, TMO are the guys to go see.

    • If you’re on a contract now – you keep that contract until it’s up.

    • MaseW

      I am one of those people, and I don’t see a big problem. That is, unless you’re considering leaving T-Mobile.

      Once these new plans go live, I can switch my current value plan to the new version of it, which is what I’ll do because I’ll get the unlimited data for about the same price as I’m paying for 5GBs.

      Sure, I’ll still technically be “under contract” for another year and a half or so, but hey, I’m still saving more money, per month, than I did on my previous classic plan. I can still switch to the new pricing options…I just missed out on the no contract part because of the timing of my switch.

      This isn’t the first time that I “purchased” something, then a few months later, something a little better comes out and I wish I had waited. It’s just how the cookie crumbles sometimes…at least it’s not going to cost you more money. You can still get the new pricing.

      • unsignedint

        LOL, I’ve changed my plan yesterday, not knowing this is coming. (although I have been T-mo customer for long time and not planning to leave T-mobile) but it turns out charges will be same as what this brochure says.

        I guess only problem for being in the contract I see is that if they decide to get rid of me, as they can technically get rid of me for somewhat arbitrary conditions like “uses your Service or Device in a manner that is excessive, unusually burdensome, or unprofitable to us” or “on a Rate Plan that we determine is no longer available to you” I guess, I can be in a mess. (I don’t know how often this happens as actually money they will be making from ETF would be way smaller than amount they will making keeping me for the duration of the contract.)

        At least, changing the plan seems to be possible with some or no migration fee and data plans can be changed without any effect on contracts…

    • Jay

      I don’t plan on leaving T-mobile. I pay 60 dollars a month for unlimited everything. ATT and Verizon do not even come close to touching that. So do I care that I am locked in a contract? I dont care about people with grandfathered plans. That is your business and I’m sorry that you want to hold on to your 5 year old plan, but a majority of people dont have those kinda plans. Deal with it or leave. Either way, you’ll be spending more money with another company. ( Que the people who say thats not true and will go tooth and nail to defend how they will be charged less going to another company )

      • Jay

        And that grandfathered stuff is me speaking in general. Not about you.

      • NYCTheBronx

        You made a right choice. My friend signed a two year contract with Sprint a couple months back and he doesn’t even get 4G LTE and he pays around $70 a month plus his girlfriend’s line so $140. He has to drive outside the city just to get 4G LTE. He called Sprint and asked when are they going to put LTE in his area, they said soon. They told h that twice and that was about three months ago. I don’t think my friend is ever going to see 4G LTE at his house until maybe his 2 year contract is over.

    • S. Ali

      They are still saving money….

    • Neoprimal

      “so what happens to all the suckers signed up for Value Plans over the past few months with a 2 year contract and went around ranting how they saved money and the paid shills who were pushing them?”

      Except that Value plans don’t have a contract so your point is moot. My guess is that you’ve never been with TMobile or have been grossly misinformed. Value plans have never, ever had a contract attached to them. This is why customers who choose to switch from classic or post-paid plan have to pay an ETF. They’ve always been contract-free. I switched my wife and myself to value plans as soon as they came and I could leave TMobile tomorrow if I wanted to and that would be that.

      The only “contract” you get into with a Value plan is if you choose to buy a phone at T-Mobile and not pay full price right away, in which case you have to pay for the phone over the course of time you’re with the network. I’m assuming you could pay it all off earlier and then you’d end this “contract” there and then.

      Since I buy my phones full price (including my Nexus 4 from Google directly), I’ve had no contract at all since some time in 2011.

      • thepanttherlady

        Wrong. Value plans were indeed on contract.

        • Neoprimal

          You can’t say “wrong”, because I’m on the Unlimited Value plan with 2 lines, 2GB of 4G and Unlimited talk/text and no contract.

        • thepanttherlady

          Value plans have never, ever had a contract attached to them. = wrong.

          I have 3 lines. I signed a contract.

        • Neoprimal

          You signed a contract because you financed the phones.

        • thepanttherlady

          If you’re reviewing my account (I assume you are based on your reply *sarcasm*) you’ll see I didn’t finance a phone until 2 weeks AFTER I signed a contract for my Value plan. Financing a phone extended my contract.

          If you’ve read through past posts you will see many people who were upset that the Value plans required a contract. The biggest question asked: Why is a contract required if the customer brings their own phone or buys it outright.

        • Neoprimal

          Well then I’m honestly at a loss. Unless I’m in some weird pocket of luck where I got on the Value plan and they forgot to put me on a new contract. My wife and I are free and clear to leave Tmobile, yet we got on the Value plan in 2011, which means a 2 year contract would make it so we couldn’t leave until August or so this year.

        • thepanttherlady

          Are you sure you aren’t on a Monthly 4g plan? Those are no contract.

        • Neoprimal

          Positive.

          I’m on a 2 line Family Plan, Unlimited Talk + Text and 2GB 4G for both lines and Protection Plan for 7.99 for my line.

          “Your plan:
          Unlimited Value–Talk + Text
          – Unlimited whenever minutes®
          – Unlimited weekend minutes
          – Unlimited weeknight minutes
          Change plans

          Services:
          WorldClass Int’l Rate
          PHP Bundle w/Mobile Security
          Plus 2GB Data Value
          Block Content SUB
          Change services”

  • So I wonder if I get to keep my military discount if I switch to the $70 unlimited everything….

    • marsdta

      Wondering a similar thing,. my sister currently gets a 15% discount through her school.

    • smylax

      Yes you do.

    • NYCTheBronx

      Just show them the card you have. The one the military gave you. My friend’s dad gets a bunch of discount at the base when he uses that card.

  • archerian

    the way I see it, if you opt for 2 “servings” of 2GB per line for $20, it offers 4.5GB of data (either via phone or tethering) while the UL data for $20 offers truly unlimited data via phone but only 0.5GB data for tethering. So if you are a moderate web user who needs tethering too, it might make sense to sign up for the 2GB for $10, and pay another $10 for each extra 2GB if needed rather than pay $20 for UL phone data and another $20 for 4GB tethering data.

    • Matthew Merrick

      Or you could just root and tether off of your unlimited data … that is what I plan to do once I finally have the cash flow to leave the family plan.

  • lojose

    I just waiting for my contrac end to leave tmobile i am paying $300 for 5 line and they gonna tate more helllllll nooooooooo

    • NYCTheBronx

      Is that with only 100mb or 2GB of data for each phone? My dad pays for three lines for about the same price and we only got unlimited texting, 1, 000 minutes, I got 5GB of data and my sis and dad has maybe 100mb of data.

    • MaseW

      Have you priced other carriers for 5 lines?

      If not, you are in for a rude awakening if you think $300 is expensive…

      • Jose Hernandez

        Nice response. Let him go to Verizon or AT&T and have a heart attack when he sees his new monthly bill.

        • NYCTheBronx

          Rofl. No lie, my dad had chest pains and nearly had a heart attack when we used to have Verizon. If that guy likes spending money, then let him switch to Verizon and AT&T. He probably thinks T-Mobile is bad? Wait until he gets a rates of 5-10GB data caps and overfees that are probably more than his house mortgage lol.

    • Zacamandapio

      They seen you coming my friend.
      I’ve 5 lines and I pay $215.

      • NYCTheBronx

        What plans do you have for those 5 lines if you don’t mind me asking please?

        • zacamandapio

          Value Plus for $99.98 with Unlimited Data for the 1st two lines + $10 for truly unlimited on the 1st line (that’s 109.98).
          Lines 3-5 have the 500 min, unlimited minutes and unlimited data (2GB @ 4G) for $15 ea. (that’s 154.98).
          Lines 1 & 2 have insurance.
          Line 1 has international plan $10.
          All together with taxes, fees and all the good stuff runs from $200 – $215 depending.

  • JungleJunkie

    I wonder if my corporate discount will still apply. Either way I can’t wait to start saving money!

    • smylax

      It will.

    • niftydl

      It applies to current Value Plans, most certain it will apply here as well.

  • dunnsantee

    Will iPhone 5 launch in April??

    • CJ

      I say launch the G4 and Iphone 5 in April and let them fight it out for T-Mobile Phone supremacy!

    • Whitney

      Tmobile will probably launch the iphone when iphone 5s or 6 is out

    • NYCTheBronx

      Not an Apple IPhone fan but I hope T-Mobile does release it for their subscriber’s sake lol. Those sell like hot cakes and they’re about the same phone every year just with little better specs and they all get the iOS update in the same time. My guesses are T-Mobile may release it a few weeks or after their 4G LTE network is officially live and running throughtout America. They may possibly skip the IPhone and just sell whatever the next IPhone is since it’s pretty late Already.

    • jake

      the ceo said 3-4 months and with the rumored blackout that begins today )March 18th-April 14th), it would line up with April. I too am waiting for the iPhone and am chomping at the bit every freaking day

  • CJA

    As a Tmo customer for 12 years now I’ve seen a lot of rate plans come and go. Some good some bad, many complicated. However this seems to be about their worst one yet. Lots of people don’t want unlimited talk. This would raise my price by $25/month for the exact same features, but with unlimited talk. We have 3 lines on a family plan and never even come remotely close to our 1000 minutes. Why would I pay a premium for something I don’t use. I think in their desire to oversimplify TMo has gotten too carried away this time. However I assume plans are grandfathered as always and by the time I’m actually ready to switch there will be a whole new set of rate plans!

    • galaxymaniac

      oversimplify? T-mobile wants to squeeze more money off long term loyal customers like you. You must be paying the same rate for several years now, they want more juice off you now.

      • xmiro

        horrible just horrible we should all pay $30 per month instead

        • CRT24

          You can…. $30 1500 talk and text pre paid.

        • xmiro

          I rest my case

        • CRT24

          I get you…..hard to tell context from a text

        • CRT24

          You would be fired as a lawyer if you rested on that…..some teenagers send 1500 texts in a day. Oh and by they way, lines 3-5 on the family plans are 30.00 for unlimited everything so not sure how this plan is even close to horrible as you put it.

        • xmiro

          nah I was being sarcastic replying to galaxymaniac that tmobile wants to squeeze more money out of long term loyal customer.

    • Mike

      Then go prepaid dummy. These are post paid plans.

      • mikeistheactualdummy

        grandfathered plans = postpaid, prepaid not available in family option.

        • jej

          Technically postpaid plans can change price or features any time even on contract. Most carriers simply elect not to. Prepaid can also be grandfathered if the company chooses to allow it. Virgin did this with beyond talk. I think t mobile realizes budget plans are a dead end. Att/vzw can easily afford to undercut them with straight talk style services. They need to offer a high end network to attract customers and that costs more money. When Att/vzw build out their small cell network and new spectrum + refarm spectrum they can beat t mobile even in the cities and on price too. T mobile needs to have a competitive network before that happens.

        • unsignedint

          I think the rationale of not changing price for postpaid plan is perhaps due to some consumer protection statute, if they actually change terms of postpaid plan, then they have to waive ETF. (And they had to, when they raised price for SMS/MMS for those without unlimited plans.) Now that they seems to be getting rid of annual (or two) contract, this will be interesting how they will honor “grandfathered” plans.

      • NYCTheBronx

        You pay more for prepaid. $70 a month for a hinted everything plan. While I signed a two year contract with T-Mobile paying $77 a month for only 20 months. After 20 months, I will only pay $55 a month and I plan to stick to T-Mobile if not forever but for a very long time. I’ve been with them the year before the the G1 came out.

        • Genecio

          Off Topic, NYCTheBronx did you ever get your Note 2 updated to 4.1.2? I read earlier that the OTA update wasn’t available for some and that KIES was giving headaches. I replied to you and said possibly to put KIES into compatibility mode for Windows 7.

      • mreveryphone

        That dummy comment made my day!

        • galaxymaniac

          you must live a really sad life if that ignorant comment made your day. That guy had no idea what prepaid vs postpaid offers and doesn’t offer.

        • mreveryphone

          I live a wonderful life! That comment was funny to me even if it was ignorant, so what, looks like you live a sad life trolling!

      • CJA

        Mike.. the ignorance of your comment while calling me a dummy literally made me laugh out loud. Thanks. First of all there is no such thing as a prepaid family plan. Second the prepaid family plans that offer a set number of minutes either don’t offer data, or offer 100 minutes total. Not really ideal. And lastly prepaid plans are and always will be aimed at people with less than stellar credit. And you always will pay a penalty for that. But thanks for solving my problem, much obliged.

    • MaseW

      It is a reflection of the current state of the wireless market. People don’t use voice on their phones as much as they used to, and they are using more and more data.

      It’s just a reversal of the past structures when data first came about. Voice was sold at a premium, and data was the “add-on”. When I first bought my G1, I had completely unlimited data for $15 a month. The main cost of my monthly bill was voice/text.

      That has basically flipped with the wide adoption of smartphones. Basically you’re paying the premium for data, and voice/text is the add-on. If you look at the pricing, think of it as you paying $60 a month for data, with the unlimited voice/text add-on for $20.

      I know that’s not what the brochures are saying, because most people are still conditioned to think that voice is the most important point on a plan, but that’s the way the carriers are looking at it.

      • galaxymaniac

        voice is still the most important service on cellphones for an overwhelming majority of users, people might be consuming more data, but they still rely on traditional voice for many things and it is still a must have for many.

        • MaseW

          While that may be true, from the carrier’s perspective, it’s about which service is consuming the majority of system resources.

          Since even people that use a a significant amount of voice are still consuming larger amounts of data, data is still accounting for the majority of system resource usage.

          Even though it may differ from individual to individual, from an overall standpoint, voice usage is decreasing…especially when compared to the exploding use of data. The new pricing structures are a reflection of that.

          I don’t need unlimited talk-time either, me and my wife wife never go over our current 1000 minute allotment. But that’s the point I’m trying to make. When I had my Pocket PC/Blackberry phones back in 2002-03, I would have never dreamed about using multiple GBs of data in a month. Back then, the data was unlimited and cheap because there wasn’t as much use of it. Now it’s voice that occupies that position. You can’t even imagine using more than your 1000 minutes in a month, and that’s why its now unlimited and “cheap”, just like data used to be.

        • Ford_Thundercougarfalconbird

          Well said!

        • CJA

          Great points MaseW and in interesting way of looking at it. The cynical side of me though says that they are trying to extract a premium for a feature they know is dying. Voice has good profit margins for them.. way better than data from everything I have read. But voice is a dying medium so to speak(pun intended :) So they want to maximize their profits which means taking away my options.

        • Spanky

          Exactly. My wife and I are AT&T subscribers with a two line family plan. We share 700 minutes a month and have the “Unlimited Mobile to Any Mobile” feature that’s a part of our messaging plan. Not only do we never use up the entire 700 minutes, we have about 4,000 rollover minutes sitting around. It seems that not too many people need unlimited minutes.

        • Neoprimal

          On ATT, a 700 Minute Family plan is $69 and Unlimited Messaging is $30.

          Without even data added, your plan is more expensive than this T-Mobile plan.

          Unlimited Voice or not, that isn’t really the point of these plans. The plans are offering a way to get rid of overages completely. You’ve earned 4000 rollover minutes but imagine brand new ATT consumers who have misjudged how they would use their minutes monthly? or who’ve had to endure some emergency making them use way, way more minutes than they normally do? Boom. Overage fee.

          No matter which way you look at it, this plan beats many out there and the only thing that could make it not worthwhile is if TMobile service in a given area is less than reliable.

      • BigMixxx

        Amen.

        I’ve said it before. Data is the new oil. the new housing market and folks are trying to figure out how to best monetize that. shared data is one way, limiting data is another.

        These value plans are awful but — this could be AT&T.

        • ZivilynBane

          How are they awful? Did you look at the brochure? It’s telling you that 5 lines with UNLIMITED talk, text, and web is $110/mo. I guess being 1/3rd the price of Verizon or ATT is awful huh?

        • Spanky

          Add $20/month for EIP, and $110 turns into $210. Most people I know upgrade their phones as soon as they become eligible. Unless you plan on getting a Nexus or keeping your phone for more than two years, you’ll never see $110/month.

        • Spanky

          Clarification: $20/month EIP on each of the 5 lines.

        • ZivilynBane

          $210/mo for five lines is still $100 or more per month cheaper than ATT, Verizon, or Sprint. The bill will be transparent so you know exactly how much you’re paying for that phone, rather than just pay a higher bill all the time because your phone was subsidized. $210/5 = $42/mo per line by the way. You can also pay off your EIP’s early and upgrade sooner than 24 months. And don’t forget EIP is changing to 25 payments rather than 21 so that helps you either save money up front or save money on your payment. Oh and 100 percent zero interest whatsoever for financing your phone. Please explain how this is “horrible” ?

        • Neoprimal

          OR….buy an unlocked 200 Smartphone outright. It’s way better than paying more money on a contract anyway.

        • Magenta Man

          Exactly! What’s wrong with these consumers… The numbers don’t lie, it’s not some sales rep telling you a story, its fact. T-Mobile IS the most inexpensive national carrier in America. Bottom line. End of story. Well said ZivilynBane.

    • CRT24

      Change to the 1000 minute value plan while you still can, and then keep it! Since you would then be on value you can still either provide your own device or buy one on installments from t-mobile. You will need to do it before the 24th though. If you are already on value then you can keep that plan, pretty simple solution.

      • CJA

        Luckily I already have the 1000 minute value plan. And I certainly will be keeping it. I suspect though I’ll never be able to take advantage of the sales. On multiple high end devices the better sales can often save you 200-400 dollars off full retail. I suspect to take advantage of that they would force me to switch plans. I won’t of course, but it will be disappointing to lose out on hundreds of dollars of rebates.

    • Lol as long as your grandfathered in, thats all that should matter to you.

    • TBN27

      Plans are grandfathered and they will never make you switch to the new value plans. Also if one doesn’t like these plans, they can go to one of the mega retailers and look for a classic plan or do a dirt cheap monthly 4G plan. Simple.

      • CJA

        Yup, of course. And to be fair to TMo I spent some time yesterday comparison shopping which I hadn’t done in a while. Even if I went with one of these plans I come out 50-70 bucks a month cheaper. Over 24 months that more than covers the device costs. So it’s still the best deal. Just not as good. And as I mentioned above it probably will exclude me from all sales.

    • Panchito

      Dont worry.. it will be a 1500 talk & text… but will not be promoted.. check this out.. http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-_92TUp59aVI/UUilXEh9cuI/AAAAAAAAF1k/oyv1OoEBDdQ/s1600/T-MobileMar24PrepaidPlanChanges.png

  • S. Ali

    I don’t need unlimited minutes, give me smaller minute plans and bigger data plans.

    • fentonr

      Keep your current plan then. The idea behind unlimited minutes is not to get more money from you but to remove overages. I’ve seen many people get bit by overages. The UNcarrier push is towards addressing consumer concerns, one of which is overages. These new plans have no overages.

      • Willie D

        One way to get rid of the overages MOST people have, is to offer Unlimited Any Mobile. T-Mobile was the LAST major carrier to offer Unlimited Mobile to Mobile for free, it used to be a $7 per month charge. T-Mobile is the third to offer Unlimited Any Mobile – however unlike Sprint or AT&T which include it on all plans with Unlimited Data or Messaging respectively, T-Mobile still charges an extra $10 for it. If they wanted to reduce overages, they would include it on ALL plans with Unlimited Texts or Data.

        • tmorep joomz

          They just did.

        • galaxymaniac

          so you guys are saying the reason T-mobile is offering UL Talk and Text is to prevent overages? The law of averages predict if everyone pays extra for UL everything, there is more net cash increase for T-mobile with minimal added cost due to people using “more” due to their UL status. It even covers the extra income lost from overages.

        • DurteeDee

          See metro pcs, unlimited everything,

        • PSarge

          Except coverage… and they charge you for roaming…. or at least they did when I was with them

        • DurteeDee

          lol they merged

        • tmorep joomz

          It is a win win situation.When you get interest from a bank, you don’t calculate the actual earnings and ask for money. If you ever own a business you will understand you have to find ways to make profit or go bankrupt and layoff 100, 000 workers.

    • NYCTheBronx

      Listen to fentonr. This guy that my mom knows, he had T-Mobile family plan. I am going to assume he had over fees because he didn’t have unlimited. He said he paid T-Mobile $300-$800. He thought T-Mobile was expensive. Then he switched out and paid a heavy penalty fee for that. Now he has AT&T and still didn’t learn his lesson from overfees. His bill to AT&T is about $140. It’s good to have unlimited, trust me. When I used to have Verizon, my dad paid $180-300ish due to me going over my limit. Same goes when we became T-Mobile customers a few years back. This time we got Unlimited now lol. It’s good to pay a little bit more to get unlimited. People on Verizon, Sprint and AT&T are getting Hidden Overfees where they have to pay $300-$5,000! I don’t know anyone who likes to spend thete money like that a month lol. That’s why a lot of Verizon customers are leaving Verizon. I don’t know about AT&T and Sprint.

  • HTCJUNKIE

    So I currently pay $90 on a grandfathered plan. It is unlimited everything, no data cap until 5GB.

    * I am eligible for an upgrade * (Waiting for GS4/Note3/HTC ONE/New Nexus?)

    I just don’t see a savings in the value plan. You can drop my rate to $70 a month, but that would still add $20 to that for the phone plan. So Im still paying $90 a month. How is this saving me from buying a phone at $199 and reselling it during my next upgrade for $1150-$200 (depending on the market). I feel like on a single phone line vale or classic is kind of a wash…

    • NYCTheBronx

      I suggest you wait for the Nexus 5 since it’s very snappy, the Nexus family plus they get firmware updates first then any other phone. If I don’t like the specs of the Nexus 5, I’ll just go with the Samsung Galaxy S IV.

    • galaxymaniac

      T-mobile wants you to find a friend or get married and go into a family plan and then see the savings.

      • Zacamandapio

        Or Tmobile may want him to keep his current plan and stop whining.

      • NYCTheBronx

        ROFL.

      • Haha true

      • xmiro

        with a $20 smartphone plan added to your single line on Tmobile Value, you stil pay $20 per month *less* than what AT&T and Verizon charge currently without the $15 per additional gigabyte fee

        A 6GB plan would cost you with smartphone payment will be $100/month on Tmobile Value, $125/month on AT&T plus $15/GB overage, and $120/month on Verizon + $15/GB overage.

        Or, $90 for unlimited without tethering – fully $35 per month less than AT&T and $55 per month less than AT&T if you have no phone payment!!!

    • Jay

      Because after you pay off the phone, your bill drops down to 70 a month again.

    • UMA_Fan

      The down payments are usually cheaper than the upgrade price. That’s why. Plus there are no upgrade fees and you’re only taxed on the 70 not the 90 you are now. How does paying full retail price for the phone effect you negatively exactly? Just sell it and pay off the phone so your bill drops back to 70. Or start a whole new installment plan and pay the down payment again.

      • Willie D

        85% of the customers that T-Mobile is marketing toward, people who want cheaper plans, and cant afford high cost plans, are also people who may be limited in credit ratings, or have lower credit scores. These are the people who have MetroPCS, VirginMobile, BoostMobile, possibly even Sprint (which surprisingly has extremely liberal credit checks and low deposits and decent prices) Unfortunately, that whole installment plan only applies to 15% of the demographic that T-Mobile is looking to acquire (ACQUIRE not already has) and they are not likely to move on over because the price is lower anyway. So that leaves T-Mobile in a bind. To gain the customers they are marketing, T-Mobile is going to have to either allow bad credit customers the benefit of the doubt and get them on the EIP or completely face that this new Value Plan move is going to limit the scope and realm of them becoming and UNcarrier and putting them into a niche “on approved credit/no other customer” type of carrier, which will limit their income, propel them into being a carrier desired but no one will want since its too exclusive.

        • xmiro

          And where does the money for that smartphone on AT&T or Verizon come from? It’s built *into* the rate plan they just don’t break it down for you. And you pay more

    • mrsbelpit

      Because your bill will drop $20 per month after 20 months, saving $80 over the two years. Or you could buy a used phone or a Nexus for less than half the price of a T-mo phone.

      • thepanttherlady

        Last article we read was that EIP’s have been extended past the 20 months to 24-25 months.

      • Willie D

        Most people dont care about saving money over time, or in the long run. Saving $80 at the end of my contract period for the last 4 months is not a large enough offset to justify paying MORE upfront to me…or to most of the people who want service for that matter. Not saying subsidy pricing is great or anything, but I am saying that the UPFRONT start up cost is what 99% of people care about over the long term costs. How do I know this, it is reflected in society as a whole. High APR on credit cards but low introductory rates (costs less to get the card to start, than it does over time)… Subprime Mortgages with flexing APR (costs less to get that new home for the first 5 years, but over 30 you will end up paying 1/4th more). That mentality while not really logical or fiscally sound is how society thinks, and while it is unfortunate we think like this, no amount of bashing into us is going to change the fact we would rather have low costs upfront and consider $80 pocket change to have that lower cost today, vs 20 months later.
        Like Ryan in The Office once said, I can give you $100 today for your wedding gift, or $5000 a year from now, which would you prefer? Most people want the immediate benefit, $100 today. If T-Mobile was saying “NO DEVICE PAYMENTS FOR 3 MONTHS” sure people might sign up, but how about “NO DEVICE PAYMENTS FOR 6 MONTHS” and make that payment $23 not $20 per month, WAY MORE PEOPLE would sign up. Immediate benefits = long term longevity and viability in our culture.

        • mrsbelpit

          You’re not paying more upfront. The down payment is the same if not less than your upgrade cost.

        • therealmikebrown

          You are assuming he bought his phone from T-mobile. You cam get them much cheaper 3rd party.
          I get my phones from bestbuy, and from what I hear I still will be able to.

    • xmiro

      6GB data is $125 at&t, $120 Verizon, $80 Tmobile Value, $100 Tmobile Classic. Even with a $20/month smartphone payment on Value you’re still paying less for 1 line on T-Mobile than either Verizon or AT&T

  • susan

    I just changed plans for the first time in ages.

    My bill is dropping from $58 to $31.24, a savings of nearly 50%.

    My “new” plan has been around for years, few people know it exists.

    It’s the tmobile prepaid 1500 minute and text deal for $30 a month.

    No web or fancy phone for me.

    This economy sucks so I’m cutting expenses to save where I can.

    • bakgwailo

      The economy is actually pretty good depending on where you are ;)

      • Alfred

        And who you are.

    • Jay

      Few people know it exists? Its at the prepaid T-Mobile website for months. Pretty sure you get 30mbs with that plan.. But of course unlimited when you use wifi.

  • 21stNow

    If I had designed the brochure, I would have done similar situations to show the individual and family plans. Just glancing at this (which many customers do), it seems that an individual is getting ripped off compared to those on family plans.

    • corepreacher

      Every company gives you a deal for every line you add. The discounts equal $10 per line discount for first 2 lines on fam plan vs individual

      • 21stNow

        I get that, but just glancing at this, it looks like an individual line is $90/month while a three-line family plan is $100/month. It would have been better to show both plans with EIP payments or both plans without them.

  • Randall Lind

    $70 is a good deal. Do you know if my bill will drop now or do I have to wait for contract to expired? I think Feb is when my contract is up or anyway best deal to upgrade phone is in Feb.

    • corepreacher

      When u change to the new plan your bill lowers automatically. Just make sure u pay any and all migration fees

  • S425

    Will T-mobile continue to honor lines that are eligible for upgrades on grandfathered plans? Or do I need to use my upgrades before these new plans go into effect? Thanks in advance.

    • TenaciousMe

      What city do you live in S425? I ask because although Corp T-Mobile will make a switch to a Value only eviroment, many T-Mobile authorized retailers will offer both Value and Classic options.

  • lovingmyGN2

    So this is basically monthly 4g with the option for a family plan. So do you need an id and have to pay taxes on this like s contract plan? Cause I only pay $70 flat here in nyc.

  • Looking at this I do see the savings, but they all go to T-Mobile. My 5 line family plan which I was supposedly paying extra for the pro-rated phone upgrades, would cost the same +/- $10/mo and I don’t see where I would be saving $80/mo for 4devices at the discounted upgrade pricing it would actually be $80 more per month when we upgrade if we upgrade all 4 at once. The other line is a HotSpot@Home Line so no devices are ever upgraded on that line. In summary I guess it makes it a safe way for others to try T-Mobiles Spotty coverage without a contract to see if it will work for them. After being here since VoiceStream Days I don’t see the savings or VALUE for a Family.

  • ett11

    Wondering if the family plan still have the 5 line maximum limit?

  • sharklover

    To me the new classic plans are a little better than what I have now and I think makes more sense than the value plans for me. If lines 3 to 5 only need 500mb of data then you only pay $20 a month instead of $10 without a subsidized phone. Tmo always charges more than everyone else for phones. So you would have to pay their full price plus tax for the phone. So for a GS4 I would think both down payment and what you will be able to get the phone for will be about the same. But then you will be paying $30 on a value plan instead of $20 so it will cost more. I also get an 8% discount because of where my wife works so i am much better off. The new plans give free hotspot to my wife 2gb plan and will now get 2.5. I have unlimited and will get 500mb free hotspot. So to me I am happy with the new classic plans.

  • TenaciousMe

    The new UNcarrier Classic Plans look like a fair deal as well AND you keep the subsidy on the device. Classic Individual plans start at only $60 Unlimited talk, text & web – Family plans start at $100 for two lines Unlimited talk, text & web. The Classic options will still require a two-year agreement, but if you’re sticking around anyways, why not keep the device discounts. Both plans look great! Pick your poison where you want to save some money.

    • tmomanager

      $60 is for UL Talk, Text and only 500MB of data, not UL.

      • TenaciousMe

        The data IS unlimited use, 500MB of High-Speed Data.

        • tmomanager

          500MB of data and 2G speeds after it is not an “unlimited” data plan for almost all people who plan on using their data plan for one whole month.

  • MaseW

    The only thing I worry about with this new “UN-carrier”, no-contract thing is that, to me, it gives T-Mobile more flexibility to change rate plans whenever they want to, and you have to accept it.

    Essentially you’ll be operating on consecutive, one month “contracts”, that could be subject to change at the beginning of the next month. There’s no agreement between us and T-Mobile to keep the same pricing terms for any period longer than a month. With the contracts, you know that you have a certain rate for at least 2 years. Then, when the contract ends, the parties operate as if the contract is still in place, until one party overtly attempts to change the terms (grandfathering). That pricing “safety” will go away with the elimination of contracts.

    Given T-Mobile’s propensity for changing their plan offerings, it’s a pretty scary thought. I guess for everyone that’s been screaming for them to bring back the no-contract post-paid, it may be a case of “be careful what you ask for”…we’ll have to wait and see.

    • Zacamandapio

      You’ve made some great points.

    • fentonr

      Contracts have nothing to do with the rateplan you’re on. Contracts only say that you agree to have that line for two years.

      • Willie D

        Actually the contract states that not only do you agree to have a line of service for two years, but with T-Mobile it states that you explicitly plan to have that plan for two years as well. Either you will pay an early termination fee or restart the contract over if you want a different plan that costs more or less. – T-Mobile is one of the only carriers left in America that still requires a contract renewal to change plans. Also in that contract, it states that you pay for a minimum level of service offered. Neither party has to agree to it, if one party does not agree to a unilateral change, the contract is null and void. – In this case, T-Mobile is saying, we can change our contracts and plans at the end of the month now that we are moving to no contract plans.

    • ZivilynBane

      Boy have you been brainwashed by the Subsidy Model Scam. You really think T-Mobile’s gonna be like “Let’s raise rates by $50 per line this month!!!” Just to see everybody cancel with NO ETF since there’s no contracts? Get real buddy. $110/mo for 5 lines of Unlimited TTW. That’s total, not per line like ATT or Verizon.

      • MaseW

        What are you talking about? I have paid full price for all the phones me and my wife have used for over 5 years now. The last phone I got on a subsidy was the G1.

        Secondly, I didn’t say they would do it, I said they could do it.

        Thirdly, it would’t be an increase of $50 from one month to the next, it would be $1 here, $0.50 there, every 3-4 months were you would hardly notice it. Without any contracts at all, they’d have carte blanche to do anything they wanted.

        Again, I didn’t say they WOULD, I said that they COULD.

        • Neoprimal

          I don’t think that’s legal. I’m not sure. If they did it and it was discovered by thrifty folks there’d be hell to pay. When you’re in the service industry, you don’t just add money to services without informing the customer.

    • Neoprimal

      It works both ways though. If they change a plan and a customer doesn’t like it, they have the complete freedom to move to another service, and there are now plenty worthwhile services out there that are contract-free as well. In other words, I doubt they will change the plans for the worse.

  • So $70 a month for unlimited everything…….$60 & you got a deal lol

    • corepreacher

      If your company gives you a discount you can get it down to $60

    • Qbancelli

      Exactly!

  • GOMA

    STOP COMPLAINING….then go to another CARRIER if you dont like these changes…or go to ccricket…

  • techymexican

    ” All data plans are unlimited while on T-Mobile’s Network” So does that means that you can have the 500MB plan and just be throttled to 2G afterwards?

    • corepreacher

      Yes

  • me

    I like how it says the words simple and uncomplicated, then proceeds to walk you through a 3 page venn diagram on how the new plans work. Classic T-Mobile.

    • fentonr

      I would argue that it is simple and uncomplicated but that some people can’t understand even simple things.

      • 21stNow

        I disagree. T-Mobile has to consider the fact that most consumers in the US market are conditioned to the two-year contract model for cellular service. This brochure gives examples, but not a chart that people can actually pick plans from. A simple chart would have communicated the plans better than icons and dollar amounts.

  • Ford_Thundercougarfalconbird

    I need to take a close look at one of the brochures, but I do believe this is the first time I can actually save money by leaving my grandfathered family plan. It may only be $10, but it’s still savings.

    • galaxymaniac

      if you’re going to save money with the new plans by moving from a grandfathered plan, you were most likely not in the most optimum grandfathered plan anyway.

      • Ford_Thundercougarfalconbird

        Um, no.

  • JayInCA

    These value plans for individuals look tempting for Verizon and AT&T customers, considering you can opt for truly unlimited data as a $20 feature per month and get a +500MB tether capability thrown in, or pay $10 per 2GB (+ 500MB extra) of data to use and tether per month. That is a super deal over the competition. Plus the network wont be cluttered, and it will have better coverage for high speed data transfer.

  • “Add tablet service starting at $10/month”
    Can someone explain this?

    • mrsbelpit

      If you want a sim for your HSPA tablet you can use some of your data allotment on the tablet for $10 – this is a guess.

    • CRT24

      Its $10/mo for a separate 500 mb. Mobile broadband line and then it is 10.00 for every 2gb up to 12 gb total.

  • KPOM

    Is it just me or is prepaid a far better option now? For $70 iI get 5GB of data, hotspot, and unlimited talk and text. Postpaid, it looks like it is $90 on the new Classic plans and I just get 4GB (with the next step up to $110 for 6GB).

    • raysfan1985

      Your reading it wrong. you dont get hotspot with prepay, you do with postpay. It’s the same price $70 per month on both plans. $50 for base plan and $20 more for unlimited data.

  • Baxter DeBerry

    glad this doesn’t affect prepaid… 30 for 5 gb is awesome so far

  • Elkhart

    Really having an issue with all of the concern about not having lower minute packages. Tmobile is attempting to operate just like att and Verizon as far as not allowing grandfathered plans but at the same time they are doing it a fraction of the price

    • 21stNow

      Many customers are with T-Mobile because they don’t like the practices and plans of AT&T and Verizon Wireless.

  • rip ham

    Since this isn’t a plan will they still offer $10 off for loyalty and a corporate discount?

  • HeatFan786

    Plans should be cheap as Europe. My cousin pays 15 pounds a month for 500 minutes, 500 texts, and unlimited data. Not everyone needs a 1000+ text messages or minutes. T-Mobile’s $30 looks really good. Oh and if companies want to retain customers, don’t cheat them. When I worked at a major retail chain store, I had customers complain about AT&T’s overcharging despite not having any variables constitute as overages. These people stayed within the parameters. Same thing with Verizon and Sprint. That $109.99 unlimited everything plus tax plan changes into exorbitant hidden fees. Contracts aren’t worth the time and money. Phone manufacturers shouldn’t keep prices so high for out of contract devices. I had to wait 3 months after the launch of the S3 to save $200 off face value. Without it, I would’ve paid $600. That’s too much for a device. What justifies the price tag of $300+ for .2 GHz, 1 GB more of RAM, a 720p Display? Most people don’t need that. The Google Nexus is brilliant. A high spec phone without a high speced phone price. $300 for a phone that is the same as the S3 and the Note 2 in terms of hardware? Great budget phone. Now that’s how to do business for the most part.

    • xmiro

      the Google Nexus phone is sold by Google at a loss or at break even point to spur adoption. Google likely makes no profit off the Nexus whatsoever

      • HeatFan786

        So I assuming it will be a launching pad for advertisement then? I didn’t know they sold it at a loss. I have to look at that. Well, I still want the next gen Nexus or the Nexus 4 if they open up the LTE Radio.

        • niftydl

          They are basically breaking even, they aren’t losing money on the Nexus hardware.

        • xmiro

          When the Google’s Nexus 7 tablet came out, its cost to build was $184 just for materials. It sold for $199 leaving $16 per tablet to cover other expenses.

          I would guess Google is selling the Nexus 4 at break even, no profit or maybe a little profit? But keep in mind they have no retail stores to operate. It is possible they are selling at a slight loss too. If you Google the news when the Nexus 4 came out, a Spanish retailer as well as some others stopped selling the Nexus 4 it because their price was 500 Euros or more for the 16GB model I believe.

          I had a friend in Europe ask me to buy him a Nexus 4 and ship it over there because it would have cost less than to just walk into a retail store and get one.

          ZDNet article estimates the cost to build the iPhone 5 at $207 for 16GB model. It retails for $640 off contract. There are other costs, but for Apple generally it’s retail margins are 35-50%

    • I recently bought my S3 brand new in box for $380 off CL. I’m with you, $350 – $400 is my top line to buy a phone off contract. I don’t do the $600+ crap, thats just insane. I want the S4 but I’ll most likely get it at the end of the year when the cost falls in my price range. My next buy will be the Note 2 as soon as the Note 3 is announced when the price for it declines. I pass on Nexus phones due to no sd slot and I don’t like the camera on the N4 from my testings.

  • James

    Isn’t this more expensive than their current plan??? And why the unlimited minutes, nobody talks 24/7!!!

  • rafe1621

    It just hit me but isn’t this new UNcarrier thing really the same thing Metro and a few other carrier have been doing for years but with nicer phones? Or am I missing something here?

    • BkEnigma

      They’re prepaid carriers only, while T-Mobile would offer Post service, and allow you to finance the purchase the phone rather than paying full price up front.

    • taron19119

      You are missing to things one you well have no contrac and two you well have the options to finance the phone

  • JointhePredacons

    Not concerned with rate and data plans, they will have a plan I like. Im just happy ill be able to get a new phone of my choice and put down a down payment then pay off a brand spanking new phone (maybe a ONE, or an GS4, or Note 2 , or an X phone, I know the Note aint new, i just like it) Ill get to pick what i want and they will probably let me trade in my ONE S to do so, at least I hope they do.

  • beatboxing

    In a coupla days I’m going to be a VZW refugee to T-Mobile. Here’s my question: After the 1st 500 GB, what speeds do you drop to?

    • Zacamandapio

      Good enough for facebook, email, mms, etc.
      2G or EDGE. Very slow.

      If you’re doing lots of streaming then it’s not recommended.

      If you’re not then it’s perfect!!!

    • xmiro

      some say 2G, and it is true but sometimes it seems faster to me. It’s not bad for browsing, or if you have twitter/facebook on.

    • RedGeminiPA

      I heard it depends on the plan you have. 4G gets throttled to 3G, and 3G gets throttled to 2G (EDGE). I’m not sure how true that is.

  • Marc Klein

    Interesting: This is exactly what I pay now (Before taxes). However, I do have unlimited everything and I can’t downgrade because it doesn’t have unlimited texting and I need that.. So I’m kinda stuck here.

  • doubleatheman

    I find it annoying that Tmobile is scared to use the word “2G” in all of this new marketing. All the plans say “includes 500mb of High speed data & Unlimited web” But to the average consumer, they will think they will be capped or charged more beyond 500mb. I wish Tmobile continued to say “Unlimited 2G data.” I think it is still a unique advantage of Tmobile.

    • RedGeminiPA

      Here could be a twist: They’re offering 3G data at lower prices than 4G data. Some are claiming you get throttled to 3G instead of EDGE (2G) on 4G plans, and EDGE (2G) on 3G plans.

      • You will probably get throttled to gprs from 4g.

      • doubleatheman

        Doesn’t look like the will be doing that. Also in the new tmobile support pages “2G” speeds are now “up to 50kbps” Still Id rather go super slow than pay an overage.

        I do find it odd that GoSmart $45 plan is 5gb at 3g, but the $50 plan is only 500mb at 4g then 2g speeds….. If I was forced to choose between those two, Id pick the 5gb at 3g speeds.

  • Napster87

    i’m honestly surprised at how many people are complaining. 120 for two unlimited lines and 20 for each line after that to have unlimited? that’s amazing. I find it sad that most people don’t realize that they won’t have to switch if unlimited isn’t their thing. Calm down and realize that this is significantly less than the other major carriers for comparable service (at least in my neck of the woods).

    • Neoprimal

      Complainers will complain, that is the way the cookie crumbles.

  • spicymeatball

    More simplicity at a great price from T-Mobile.

  • T. Hawk

    Can someone explain to me how this is supposed to be better for us? I never understood all the hate for contracts and subsidies. My last contract that I signed was for my G2 which I got for 50 dollars with a plan of 500 minutes, unlimited text and 2gb data for a total of 70 a month. Im assuming the G2 at the time was retailing for 200-300ish at the time, so it’s possible that I either overpaid for the phone by a few bucks or I actually saved money from the subsidy.

    My big issue with the change is that I feel it’s going to hurt my upgrade ability. I wanted to upgrade to the HTC one and of course get a subsidized price of I’m assuming 200-300 dollars. With the new plans my monthly plan that I currently use would be 10 dollars cheaper, but that doesn’t make up for the entire cost of the phone which Im assuming will retail at 500-600 dollars. The 10 dollars Im saving amounts to 240 over the life of a 2 year contract, add that onto 200-300 dollars and we’re still only at 440-540, which would not cover the cost of the phone. So under the new plan Im actually paying more for my upgrade. I dont understand how this is supposed to be a good thing?

    • RedGeminiPA

      They’re going to do in-house financing. You pay the amount you’d normally pay with a subsidy, then you’re billed up to around $20 per month for 20 months. When the phone is paid off, your bill goes down by the payment price – $20. In other words, your $70 bill will be $90 for 20 months. Maybe if you put more money down the term or payments will be less. Not sure how that’ll work at this point.

      • thepanttherlady

        Payments will be 24 months, not 20.

  • I kind of really don’t see the benefit in this. I mean, a lot of us can’t deny this is much cheaper than the other 3 national carriers, but stll, I don’t see the difference in anything they’d have now. I mean $30 to add an extra line with unlimited text, and voice, and 500 MB. I remember (which it’s probably still a plan, but I don’t have it anymore) it was a plan w/ unlimited talk, text, & web (2GB’s on each line) for like $80. So what really is this. I would appreciate $70 instead. I mean you’d be paying $90 for unlimited talk, text, and 2.5GB data on both lines. This makes me wish I’d keep that grandfather unlimited plan for loyal customers years ago (think it had a 5Gb data cap) for $90.

    • xmiro

      There never was unlimited everything with 2gb data per line for $80

  • MatthewMurawski

    The only complaint I have about these plans is forcing people onto unlimited minutes, driving up the cost. They should have 100 minutes = -$20/month, and 500 minutes = -$10/month from the plans.

    • RedGeminiPA

      If you really dig deep in their website, they offer a $30 plan for prepaid. It gives you 100 minutes with unlimited text and data. It’s online only, and for new activations. I bought it for one month to see if I have coverage where I live.

      • MatthewMurawski

        Yeah I know, Im actually using that plan right now.

  • OnlineRefugee

    This does not look very “uncarrier” to me.

    I used a screen magnifier to read the fine print. (There should not be any fine print).

    It says “taxes and fees additional.” That adds $8 to $10 monthly per line.

    The handset financing says “OAC” (on approved credit).

    Compared to postpaid the prices are only slightly lower, compared to prepaid they are way higher.

    Lastly, just like AT&T, T-Mobile is setting data limits artificially low. Does anyone know what happens if someone exceeds 500MB data, for example? Are there overage charges, or is one throttled?

    • xmiro

      These are no brainer, nobody is just going to hand you a $600 phone of course there will be a credit check and taxes!

      Data is throttled after the high speed cap is reached

    • CRT24

      Are you serious with this nonsense? Every cell phone bill has taxes and regulatory fees….I guess when you go to the grocery store you accuse them of fraud because the sales tax wasnt posted on the price tag? At&t charges you overage when you go over your data limit while T-mobilecharges you for what you use with no overages and offers completely unlimited if you want/need. The new plans include 500 mb and tethering for no extra charge…..yes your data will slow down if you go over but there are no overages and you can add more if you want to pay for more and these new plans have no overages because everything is unlimited usage, not to mention it is almost half the cost of At&t

  • Party like a Ninja Star

    So many complaints, yet T-Mobile is still cheaper than other carriers for the same data, talk, and text.

    • Spanky

      Same data, talk and text – yes. Same coverage? Not nearly.

  • Anthony Tarantino

    I just signed up for a 2-year contract for Unlimited 4G, now you’re telling me this plan is being abandoned? I’m all for the no-contract approach, but I’m not paying full-price for a smartphone upfront.

    I could have just switched to Sprint, but their unlimited data plan is more expensive. AT&T and Verizon don’t even have unlimited data anymore.

    • corepreacher

      You are not paying full price upfront…you can break it up in payments interest and tax free for 24 months and including the payments your bill will still be lower then all the competition and you get umlimited 4g data unlike sprint with their unlimited 3g data

    • CRT24

      Don’t get hung up on paying full price for the phone. Even with the maximum installment payment of $20, unlimited talk, text, and unlimited 4g Web is $90.00 per month and will go down to $70.00 once the phone is paid off. Even if you are perpetually paying for a phone on payments, $90 a month is less than the other 3 major carriers plan only costs, plus the down payments will likely be the same or lower than their “discount” price on phones.

  • Zak Taccardi

    Is the $20 per line of unlimited data on the family plan throttled or not?

    • CRT24

      No the $20 data is unlimited 4g

    • Get_at_Me

      its advertised as being truly unlimited, but im guessing they reserve the right to throttle on a case by case basis….(if you’re pulling down obscene amounts of data)

  • Get_at_Me

    I’m looking forward to the new plans…i’m just curious to know if deposit amounts for customers will change.

  • Neoprimal

    Interesting plan. I pay 105 exactly, including tax right now for 2 lines, 2GB. Unlimited everything else and Equipment Protection, which means that roughly translated, the value plans are the same cost, just organized to be way more simple.

    One curious thing though, what’s to stop me from paying $10 for 12GB and then using the Hotspot for up to that 12GB? Seems like it may be a better option than unlimited 4G and then $10 for 2GB Hotspot – or am I not reading it correctly?

    I can’t wait for it to go active.

  • My current price with 5 lines (4 smartphones) is $80/month. The new pricing would be $130 for similar services. This would give two smartphones (my kids) that don’t currently have data, 500mb of data. But, even if I would add 2GB of data to their lines with my current plan my bill would web only $100, and that would be $150 with the new plan.

    So, no matter how you slice it, this new plan would be $50 more per month than I’m paying now. If T-Mobile is going to lure people away from Verizon, AT&T and Sprint, they’re going to have to be a little more competitive.

    Don’t forget that you then need to add the cost of your phone on top of those prices, so for most that would be an additional $15-$20 per month per line so now we’re in the $200/month range. Sorry T-Mobile.

    I love the more “European” model of cell carriers, but this is not it. Also, *YOU NEED TO START SELLING YOUR PHONES AT REAL PRICES*. If you’re going to go to a European model, you need to allow the free market to work with cell phone prices. Every US carrier sells phones for full retail price. Instead, the phones should be what they cost on the open market. I don’t even buy my phones from T-Mobile for this reason. I buy them all from other sources at their REAL price. Galaxy SIII is more like $360, not $600! In Europe, you’d never buy a phone at full retail, unless maybe you had to have it the day it was released.

  • JR

    I’m on the same boat. Sure, the new pricing includes SMHS, and 500mb of data plus unlimited minutes.

    But that’s not what we want. Right now, I have a 3-line with:
    1000 minutes talk (2 lines) $49.98 + unlimited family text $10.00 + 2gb data ($10) x2 = $20 + 1xAAL $5. Total is $84.98

    Estimating, the new plan would be:
    Unlimited Talk + Text (2 people) $80 + 2GB Data ($10.00) x2 = $20 + 1xAAL $10 = $110.

    I don’t want the AAL to have internet at all.

    With the new plans, I’d have to recheck our usage. My guess is I’d remove one of the data plans, since that phone uses an average of 230mb/month, and never goes over 300mb. We use about 100 minutes out of the 1000 minute bucket, so I won’t be able to take advantage of this.

    With that being said, I’m sure they’ll still be the cheapest around, but what will happen when these become standard? what will happen to my plans? probably nothing because I’m under contract, and I’m not about to pay $600 to move to a contract-free environment so I can pay $15/$25 more a month.

    If I were to compare apples to apples the new and the old value plans, the new ones might be cheaper. However, while they simplify, they’re making it more expensive for some, and cheaper for some. We, the ones that get it cheaper will complain, but that’s expected…lol

  • MysticLeviathan

    What pisses me off the most about this isn’t the plans, it’s the fact T-Mobile is acting like they aren’t doing what the other 3 big carriers are doing. UNcarrier my ass >.>

  • I wish they allowed smaller minute plans, then let you add everything else according to your usage. Honestly Unlimited Any Mobile does everything I need it to do for voice, I don’t need anything else. Give me that, unlimited tax, and let me pick my data and I’m fine. I wish they allowed people to choose their value plans like that, so it would be a VALUE for each individual, for their type of usage and lifestyle.

  • HCBK

    What is going to happen with people with the @home service like myself?

  • Is 4gb the most mobile hotspot you can add to an unlimited plan?