Project Black/Dark Docs Leaked


The leaked information follows the jump, if you don’t want to know what T-mobile is planning on offering, haven’t yet seen or want to be surprised everything after the read link is going to spoil something for you.


With the recent leaked pics of the Even More and Even More+ rate plans T-Mobile will be offering, confirmation pics of the much suspected rate plans are detailed. Project Dark/Black is rumored to include unlimited rate plans. The Even More and Even More Plus plans, as they are called, will have different approaches. Even More  will require a 2-year contract commitment which includes handset subsides, while the Even More Plus plan, on the other hand, will not require a contract and will not include subsidies. The Even More+ plans are very similar to T-Mobile’s current FlexPay plans. But Even More+ would let customers choose any handset and pay for it in monthly installments. Awesome right? More pics after the break! Sound off in the comments or discuss in our awesome forums!








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  • dan

    First! Lol alwaya wanted to post that, these plans look good

  • NiiDiddy

    EXACTLY what my T-Mobile sources told me!!!! I may not have relayed the information the right way to David, but yes! You know how stories can change as it travels from one to another…mine had a little “twist” that said both discounted and non-discounted phones will be on a 20-month payment plan that replaces the current 4-month payment plan. I will take this though…good info/intel

  • edd

    i see they have a data only plan for a two year contract but not the no contract one? =/

    and im guessing no more one year contracts either right? …cause thats what i usually get..and phones grow old very soon

  • The Observer

    so there is an activation fee for current tmobile customers?

  • Pedro

    I’m confused. I just want the Cliq and that’s it. What will I have to do???

  • edd

    @the observer

    im thinking so..unless you on flexpay

  • Y314K

    The Observer: Most carriers do… But they waive them most of the time… Will have to wait to learn if this are set in stone…

  • FILA

    Cool, but cant wait to see more details about it, like pricing isnt clear in this yet.

  • Moose

    can someone tell me what it says for family plan prices i can’t read it

  • MishkaGreen

    Interesting….very very interesting…..

  • edd

    (idk, just guessing but heres a thought)
    1.pick how many minutes you want then pick if you want unlimited text or unlimited text + data
    2.pick even more or even more plus (basically if you want a contract or not. if you dont have a contract you have to pay for the whole phone. if you have a contract you get the subsidized price)
    3.pick your this case the cliq

    hope that help! =D

  • NiiDiddy

    Some quick things I noticed:

    (A) Image #3 has the rate plan wiped off…looks like with an “eraser” tool probably from photoshop so we cannot YET see the actual prices from the plans. Someone at TMOnews or BGR is holding out on us…

    (B) If you look closely at image #5, you will see a $69.99 “Total Price Plan Recurring Charges” and right below that you see the additional stuff like the additional $11.99 “Total Feature Recurring Charges”. Looks like its all for training purposes but…hmmm…

    Does it mean that there is definitely a $69.99 Plan…and if so would that be an individual or a family plan? I am more interested in the family plans…

  • edd

    there are just H,M,L
    high, medium, low

  • Pedro

    @ edd

    Ah, thanks. Yeah I have 10 months left on my contract. Guess I’ll pop into the Tmo store after they officially announce this.

  • Y314K

    HTC Dragon/HD2 Android + TMobile(Project Dark) = Happy & customer for a long time…

    Luckily TMobile is already the best carrier on price/signal in my city according to billshrink… I am just waiting to switch to them for both the perfect phone witch will be the HTC Dragon/HD2 Android & what seems to be the best plans all around + what should become the fastest network in a short amount of time…

  • foo

    dam so much for NDA’s

  • jugstorecowboy

    Oooooh, much for that confidentiality agreement dealie. Good stuff, but I hope there’s more to PD/B than this.

  • Kickstar13

    yea. Someone is going to lose their job. :P

  • David O

    Nice to see people care about having their jobs so much that they don’t think they wouldn’t get fired for leaking this.

  • ThaIron91

    this makes me happy! now i also wonder, are the phones from the UK gonna be available to the USA too?
    i hope they have a cheap everything unlimited then i wouldn’t mind having a 2 year contract :D!

  • Scott

    Kinda confused. How would this plan benefit me…a current cust. with 3 lines on a fam share plan. I pay 140/month for unlimited texts 700 mins monthly and unlimited web on 2 of the 3 lines….1 is a tmobile wing and the other is a mytouch 3g….

  • tmoguy

    This is great news, however the person who leaked may soon be fired ! T-Mobile is very strict with keeping this confidential and “in the dark” with its competitors. If your a T-mo emp. like me then you know the lengths they will go to not let employees ruin this big project !. Also if you notice in these pics ,,where are the MyFavs >>?

  • drivethruboy168

    Definitely losing his/ her job! Wow! Lol…

  • J-Hop2o6

    @ NiiDiddy

    someone spoke to a Tmo store rep and said it’ll be a 59.99 AYCE (All You Can Eat) plan

  • db

    i think bgr and tmo nws should take it down till its announced you want these better deals but then tip th competition .. not smart .. whoever leaked this doesnt value thir job and should b fired. whatever happend to patience

  • Jesse

    Everyone will sure be in for a shock. Its going to be great… Good to see price changes and the good deals. Expect it to be supppperrr busy for the next 3 months. I was happy to see what the prices were going to be.

  • J-Hop2o6

    @ edd

    there is 1yr pricing.. look at the last pic

  • J-Hop2o6

    sorry.. *1 yr contracts*

  • Joseph

    So ya thats it? What about a new phone or something? Nothing?

  • SocietyOne

    Great, a migration fee. I can’t wait to have to explain that to customers.

  • anthony

    so can we switch to one of these plans if we already are on board?

  • Bobomo

    @anthony – look at pic #4, that will tell you what will happen depending on what your current contract status is. Unless you sign a new 2-year agreement after 10/25, you’ll just pay a $35 activation fee per line and move over.

    What I want to know is if the text and data is unlimited no matter how many minutes you choose. Also, why, on pic #1 (obscured under the BGR logo) is there a separate fee for “Unlimited Web for Smartphones”??? I thought that was the point of all this nonsense… unlimited plans!

  • rossi


    It says Unlimited Web for smartphones, but the price is $X

    Kinda Looks to me like that is already included. The price is x rather than eraser tool….

  • Robert Barrett

    With this I will be getting a new phone every 20 monthes as I pay one off after another. If I see one I really like Ill speed up paying the current phone off fater. I have the G1 and already wishing I had a newer phone. Wish the Droid was coming though. Im sure a similar phone will be coming later on T-Mobile.

  • ayvecs

    i’m eagerly awaiting to find out what this project dark, or whatever it called is. there has been so many speculations, but nothing has been confirmed. i guess we will find out in a week exactly what it is. i have been a t-mobile customer since back when they were voicestream and never left. trust me i have thought about jumping ship a few times due to the limited phones they had and where i live the reception is not the best. but i chose to ride out with them. it seems as though now t-mobile is finally starting to get some noteworthy phones. guess will just have to wait until next weekend to find out officially what this project black is. i do hope it is something big which will propel t-mobile from the #4 to the #3 spot and soon to #2, a person can dream can’t they.

  • Titty!

    i just have a question, i have flexpay…
    suppose i thouqht i had no contract
    but when i go to thee tmo store, they tell me i have a mnth-to-mnth contract? what’s that? is it really a contract?
    &will i be able to get new phone, &unlmtd plan?
    please, let me knoww… thanks! :)

  • http://. Derek

    Lame there better be more to p/d this is not game changing only cheap people will be happy I’m looking for more high end phones and hspa+ and better web services like some tmo tv if this is it then I say thanks for nothing

  • dan

    What !!!!! This is it ?

    I have a rate plan do i need another NO i want better coverage and better phones……….Take not Tmobile the Fatherland is watching drumming thier fingers near the delete key on the keyboard

    Well iphone going to Verizon ???????maybe me too

  • DOUG

    Anyone notice that the subsidized price for a G1 on the last page is $199.99? That better not be an example of their new phone pricing.

  • Mark

    T-Mo hasn’t had this much buzz on the intertubes since the run up to the G1 launch.

    They may have “allowed” obscured leaks and oblique references as part of marketing.

  • snake

    when is this suppose to roll out…i’m loving the new plans…

  • sprinter

    Major issue with the family plans which makes this a no-go for me. They offer an unlimited family plan, which I assume includes two lines. They then say you cannot add any additional lines to the unlimited plan…only to those with 1500 or 750 minutes. For all of us who have kids, and need a family plan to cover them you have just killed the entire benefit of the program. For many family plan means 3 or 4 or more…not just two. Just because we are geeks doesn’t mean we don’t reproduce!!

  • hatch

    @sprinter. if you look below that in the very bottom right of the picture, it looks like there is a different price for adding a line to unlimited plans vs adding a line to a shared minute plan.

  • Rossi


    you need to take another look! There are additional lines with unlimited. It’s option 3 on picture number 1. The first option is for the 750/1000 plans and is most likely cheaper than the unlimited option. Probably still 9.99 like you are paying today. Why would they give each additional line on an unlimited family plan its own separate pool of minutes? That doesn’t even make sense.

  • Disgusted

    Just another example of why TMO is stuck in 4th……people cant keep their big mouths shut. I guess your word to not say anything is worthless. Great!

  • IwantToKnow

    can someone explain to me how does this benefit me i have a family plan with 2 lines both tp2 unlimited web and no text and i pay 120 right now.

    my question is will their be a family unlimited data n web with 1500 minutes plan like sprint or something similar?

    ALSO so what if they get better plans
    what about the service
    what about better 3g
    better signal
    more coverage
    how about 4g

    what about the new phones the only thing we know is a rumor that the hd2 will be coming to tmobile

    and what just the cliq and the hd2 and these plans are going to put us in #3 spot

    1.Better service and coverage
    2.Better Plans at low cost
    3.Better Phones at low cost
    = More Custmoers :D

  • safil

    this dude is def. getting fired. for one, they probably know what store it came from, cause the 206 area code and the next 3 numbers will narrow it down. then they just find out which rep worked on it and he’s right behind me in the unemployment line. but it was def. worth it. he took one for the team.

  • mikeeeee

    plans are really good but, i need a major hardware upgrade.

    just gimme UMA androids so i can use them @ home and work.

    i’ll buy 2 of them, one for me and one for my wife.

    i’ll keep my hotspot@home and my t-mobile@home services.

    do that and t-mo has me for life.

    i’ve been here since the ariel/voicestream in ’01 so this aint my first rodeo.

    on the flip side anyone else who gives me a femtocell or UMA android and it’s bye bye bye and ebay will have a lot of good used t-mo hardware up for bid.

  • c.j.

    So if existing customers have to pay a $35 activation fee for the new plan will we also be able to get a new handset at a new customer price?

  • pecoy

    Ok so what else is coming that’s gonna make this game changer?? the HD2 with android coming??