T-Mobile says first 600MHz sites will go live in August

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Today T-Mobile released its Q2 2017 earnings numbers, and inside the announcement was some big news regarding T-Mo’s 600MHz plans.

T-Mobile will light up its first 600MHz sites in August. There’s no word yet on where those sites are, but now that we’re in the middle of July, it won’t be long before those sites are turned on.

T-Mo also said today that at least 10MHz of 600MHz spectrum covering 1.2 million square miles will be cleared and ready for deployment in 2017.

To take advantage of the coverage improvements that T-Mobile’s 600MHz coverage will bring, you’ll need a device capable of accessing those airwaves. T-Mo has confirmed that it’ll have 600MHz-compatible smartphones from Samsung and LG available in Q4 2017, so you won’t have to wait long to get a shiny new 600MHz handset.

Looking ahead, T-Mobile also plans to use some of its 600MHz spectrum to build out a 5G network. Deployment of this network is expected to happen in the 2019/2020 timeframe.

So now that we’re getting more details on T-Mobile’s upcoming 600MHz rollout, do you plan on buying one of the new Samsung or LG phones that’ll support this 600MHz network?

Source: T-Mobile

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  • J.J.

    Note 8 and v30 i presume. Hopefully they get it rolled out in a timely manner but as history has shown they will! Unfortunately even with the many upgrades traveling is still a super pain.

    • bkat11

      Hoping that things will change with the rollout…that they aren’t just covering areas already covered now

  • Sharti24

    They need to build more towers. Not just install their 600mhz equipment on current towers

    • PHL

      Why? 600 MHz should propagate further than Band 2/4.

      • bkat11

        Truth. 600 mhz is supposed to travel almost twice as far as Band 12

        • Andrew Addison

          Yeap 600 will travel farther than 700mhz. 700 still can travel just as far, but 600 will travel way farther than 700mhz

        • Sharti24

          As i was typing my post you deleted/edited your old post. But yes 600mhz will travel farther than 700mhz. Thats physics, But will it be a drastic improvement over 700mhz? No it wont

        • Andrew Addison

          How so??? IT will be a drastic change over 700 mhz. It will have more stability, travel farther with more coverage, due to T-Mobile-MetroPCS going to be blanketing every inch and area throughout the USA country Bro. What are you talking about? If anything, they will deploy 600 with 700 MHz spectrum aggregating the both of them together, just trust that. It can happen.

        • Sharti24

          Why deploy both 600 and 700 together? I dont see that happening at all. They will install 600mhz on all towers that dont currently have 700mhz.

        • bkat11

          They have larger bandwidth on 600 than on 700

        • Andrew Addison

          It will happen. They will double it. I see it happening. You still probably don’t know what you are talking about. They can aggregate both 700/600 MHz together, trust me just like what they did with all the other spectrum they had. You are making assumptions. So therefore I would quit with the assumptions while you are ahead there Buddy. They did say that they were going to combine the both of them together. So still it will happen. You probably are just making stuff up, just because???? Stronger bandwidth

        • Sharti24

          I know they can aggregate it but why do they need all that bandwith in rural areas? So you think in rural montana that currently has 700mhz theyre gonna waste their time and deploy 600mhz to that same tower to gain a few extra yards of coverage? I think not

        • Andrew Addison

          Dude you sound very selfish right about now. You see I was right?? You dislove T-Mobile-MetroPCS. T-Mobile-MetroPCS will forever remain better. Better bandwidth equals better coverage. So stop talking right out of your behind and asking about why should they deploy 600 on 700 spectrum??? Just because low band spectrum is there, does not mean that you have to not add 600 right on top of it all. Jealous jealous jealous does kill. You are assuming and dude they will deploy 600 with 700, just trust that much. Aggregating it both with put right on top of each other. Stop with the jealously and stay in your lane. I think yes they will do it. Stop hating on T-Mobile-MetroPCS. Go wipe your behind with Sprint, Verizon, AT&T and Cricket Wireless. Bigger the bandwidth, the Better the coverage which will out do Verizon Wireless. Yay yay yays. They are not wasting their time. Get off the crack. They will also deploy more towers for 600 MHz spectrum to start taking effect. Now only will they install 600 Mhz Spectrum on all towers, they will also install 600 MHz spectrum that has 700 on them as well as building out more towers for 600 MHz spectrum.

        • Sharti24

          Wrong! They will NOT install 600mhz on “all towers” if they did that, that would cause interference. Thats why they couldnt install 700mhz on all current towers, Interference! Their towers are spaced for 2100/1900 mhz, Not low band so they have to skip around on towers they install low band on

        • Andrew Addison

          Noooo you’re wrong. you are a liar. You are not realistc. They will install 600mhz on all towers. Face facts. 600mhz will go on all towers that will be built and ones that don’t have 600mhz spectrum you big idiot. It will go on all towers through aggregation Buddy. I’m always right and you are always wrong. 600mhz is going to go everywhere on every single tower as much as possible. It will cover the whole state, city and area I promise you that much. It will go together just trust through aggregation.

        • Sharti24

          ok bud. Dream on

        • Jason

          Bottom line is you are wrong. 600 will be virtually everywhere because of how much Tmo purchased on a full nationwide basis. It is now basically the second capacity band. They can add a ton more users in urban areas, in rural areas. It will be deployed far and wide due to how much there is.

        • Sharti24

          If you install 600mhz on all tmobile towers there will be interference.

        • Jason

          Dont play word games with me moron. Youre trying to be too cute by half. You know EXACTLY what I meant. Obviously there is variation in tower spacing of low band vs high band. Thats neither here nor there. The underlying point is that 600 will be deployed over virtually the entire footprint. Little simplistic bullsh-t lines might have gotten you this far in the comments area, but thats because you were dealing with people stupid enough to play your game

        • Sharti24

          ^^^ Andrew Addison is this your fake second account? Lol

        • Jason

          Do I sound like him? No offense but you seem to take advantage of the stupidity and simplicity amongst certain commenters and beat them down with your sizeable expertise in simplicity and stupidity. Keep your mouth shut and please come up with actual arguments.

        • thepanttherlady

          I think he meant the name calling. In the other post you called the OP a moron then made a comment about Andrew doing the same. :)

        • Jason

          So whats your deal lady? Is this some kind of mother hen complex? Ive been watching you. You seem to be constantly observing and yet you interject usually when people respond to trolling anti Tmo fundamentalists. But the thing is you never seem to respond to them when theyre doing it. I dont know why you do what you do, but dont interject yourself into any more of my comments

        • Sharti24

          Shes the moderator of this site

        • thepanttherlady

          First of all, everyone is welcome on this blog whether or not they have T-Mobile.

          Secondly, you can’t ban everyone that bashes them just because you don’t like it or want to hear it. Does T-Mobile have great service for most? Absolutely. But they don’t for everyone and no one should wear the rose colored glasses 24/7. As much as I like T-Mobile and have no plans to leave at this time, I know they’re the greatest. I moved to the mountains and get zero service. When I drive for Uber or Lyft I hit dead or tremendously slow spots so I understand the pain points these people write about.

          Just because a service or product is great for “you” doesn’t mean it is for everyone. Without the who people complain about some of these things, T-Mobile or any other company out there would have no reason to continue improving what they offer. My suggestion is that if you don’t like or agree with the sentiment of another poster, skip over it. Don’t let someone else have the power to control your thoughts or mood.

        • Andrew Addison

          Not dreaming here. I’m speaking true facts over here Buddy.

        • Daniel

          600MHz will eventually blanket the entire network, but it will not be deployed on every cell site. T-Mobile’s urban network was build on a grid made specifically for AWS/PCS. That’s why in urban 700MHz markets only about two-thirds of cell sites have band 12. Had they deployed it on every site interference would be so high that B12 would be virtually unusable in many spots. Low-band cell sites have to be spaced farther apart than AWS/PCS sites; it’s physics.
          Secondly, band 51 (600Mhz) will not reach twice as far as band 12. It is only 100mhz lower than band 12. In theory it will reach slightly further being that it is a slightly lower frequency, but not by a significant amount.

        • Sharti24

          ^ someone gets it. Finally

        • Andrew Addison

          No he does not get it at all. Bye Bye.

        • Andrew Addison

          That is a incorrect, they will deploy on every cell site with aggregation. Every cell site will have 600 MHz spectrum on it, whether if you want to believe it or not. I know it for a proven fact that it will happen. They will deploy on 700mhz spectrum as well as the towers that aren’t active with 700 MHz spectrum on them as of yet, including the newer towers Bud.

        • Daniel

          Okay. I’ll make you a bet. Tweet Neville and ask if
          ‘Every single cell site will get 600MHz.”

        • Andrew Addison

          Bye bye Boy. Nosey. I don’t need to ask him anything. I know what I know and believe what I see inbetween the lines is truth. I know inbetween the lines of things. It’s going to be through aggregation. Boy go sit down Bud.

        • Daniel

          I’m so entertained right now.

        • Jason Caprio

          The concept of “maximum” range is misleading, however, in a cellular network. Cellular networks are designed to support many conversations with a limited number of radio channels (slices of radio frequency spectrum necessary to make one conversation) that are licensed to an operator of a cellular service. To overcome this limitation, it is necessary to repeat and reuse the same channels at different locations. Just as a car radio changes from one local station to a completely different local station with the same frequency when you travel to another city, the same radio channel gets reused on a cell mast only a few miles away. To do this, the signal of a cell mast is intentionally kept at low power and in many cases tilted downward to limit its reach. This allows covering an area small enough not to have to support more conversations than the available channels can carry. Due to the sectorized arrangement of antennas on a tower, it is possible to vary the strength and angle for each sector depending on the coverage from other towers in the area.

        • Andrew Addison

          Get off of this website. You do not belong here Bud. Your time is officially up. It is now time to go home already. T-Mobile-MetroPCS will have 600mhz on every cell site, every inch with aggregation whether if you like it or not. Get yourself a life and stay off of our web page. No one cares what your false beliefs are.

        • Jason

          For the millionth time, 600 is about capacity more than it is about range. We have a tiny tiny 5×5 capacity on 700A. We have 15×15 or more everywhere with 600. And yes, virtually all of the current 700 towers will get 600. It is a minor upgrade. Only question is how fast they can get TV stations off to clear.

        • bkat11

          2 dB or more is considered to be almost double the distance…or am I reading your reddit reference wrong?

    • SurvivingSunnyvale

      Go Google news articles about communities blocking new cell towers.

      Not as easy to put up new towers as you seem to think it is.

    • slybacon

      I don’t think T-Mobile owns any towers anymore, do they? They only lease space on towers.

  • John Doe

    Pixel 2 not coming to T-Mobile I guess :/

    • Allen Alberto Enriquez

      They may make a similar Version. Cross fingers we need enough demand which I have no doubt their are enough fans maybe on Pixel 2 S? I miss android just to play movies, use Waze app with built-in Spotify! Without ever leaving out the navigation screen or Vice versa. It’s a feature I was hoping for many years since 2010.

    • bkat11

      Pixel 2 never was a T-mobile phone its like Apple as it’s not carrier branded but I’m sure they will be Band 71 compatible as future Snapdragon chips will support 600 mhz

  • Allen Alberto Enriquez

    Android too unstable. I am hoping for iPhone SE S/2 to come out in hopes that it will be ready to take care of our airwaves values. I love the size it’s small enough to hold and text with one hand on the keyboard very comfortably.

    • Chad D

      Please explain unstable.

      • Kevin

        like the relationship you have with your dad

        • Chad D

          LOL. As you write this from your parents basement. LMAO

      • Allen Alberto Enriquez

        It’s communication from app to the software of Android tends to lead to many crazy crashes especially durning third party typing apps.

    • Mike

      iOS has issues every update some small and some are major so each OS has it flaws. To say Android only has issues is foolishness. Maybe you should try a high range to flagship device which runs Android almost flawlessly. Apple doesn’t make budget/low end phones atleast in years the 5c and SE.

    • bkat11

      Android releases monthly security updates…Samsung has been stellar lately of keeping up on them. Bugs happen in every OS including Apple

      • Andrew Addison

        Awesome which will explain why I will be transitioning into using a Samsung phone now. I’m usually an LG, ZTE and Motorola type of guy here Bud. After me checking out one of the newer phones that Samsung has Android 7.0 Nougat which that one being the Samsung Galaxy j3 prime and the other being the Samsung Galaxy j7 prime both have way better photo quality than the previous low budgeted devices that came with Android Marshmallow 6.0.1 update and them being so much better than the other LG phone that are either the midranged/low end phones of LG Stylo 2 Plus, LG Stylo 3 Plus, LG Aristo and the LG K20 plus phones that claim to have had a better photo quality than the Samsung phones that are out in all T-Mobile-MetroPCS stores now. Bullcrap, Samsung to me have been doing so much of a Better job than LG phones. I’m about sick and tired of LG phones now. They smell like crap. Goodbye LG and say hello to Samsung now. Yays. :) :)

    • Andrew Addison

      This will explain why I will be transitioning into using a Samsung phone now. I’m usually an LG, ZTE and Motorola type of guy here Bud. After me checking out one of the newer phones that Samsung has Android 7.0 Nougat which that one being the Samsung Galaxy j3 prime and the other being the Samsung Galaxy j7 prime both have way better photo quality than the previous low budgeted devices that came with Android Marshmallow 6.0.1 update and them being so much better than the other LG phone that are either the midranged/low end phones of LG Stylo 2 Plus, LG Stylo 3 Plus, LG Aristo and the LG K20 plus phones that claim to have had a better photo quality than the Samsung phones that are out in all T-Mobile-MetroPCS stores now. Bullcrap, Samsung to me have been doing so much of a Better job than LG phones. I’m about sick and tired of LG phones now. They smell like crap. Goodbye LG and say hello to Samsung now. Yays. :) :) I love Android phones verses iphones. iphones are cool, but to me Android phones are the better rout to go with now. Yays. :) :)

    • dtam

      hahaha, apple is always latest to the party when it comes to including bands. the one after the next one will probably have it, but if the phone is already in development, they won’t include it.

      • Sharti24

        Smart on apples part. Get people to upgrade like i did from the 6 to the 6s due to band 12

      • Allen Alberto Enriquez

        I figured. Well at least I got JOD while it last and hopefully before the end of it as it is currently known I’ll switch to the new iPhone SE 3.

  • Joe2050

    I’m curious where those sites are and I will probably wait until there are more selections of phones that support this new band before even considering it.

    • Sharti24

      Theres a map out there tmobile put out saying when and where theyre deploying it.

  • Jason

    I don’t think there is another company that can deploy new spectrum and new LTE releases on its network like T-Mo. They are STELLAR in this. They bought hardly useable at the time 700A band spectrum in a patchwork from a lot of individual purchases. They got the FCC to move really quick on clearing that up with the Interoperability rule, moving TV stations off, and now the 700 network is substantially complete. All in a few years. And they roll out LTE releases like nobodys business. That network team is the best of the best. And now theyre going to do the same for 600. Get it cleared faster than anybody could imagine in a lot of places, standardize the band, and all within the same year of the auction.

  • Sharti24

    Can t-mobile deploy 600mhz using current 700mhz antennas or will they need all new equipment?

    • gmo8492

      Neville Ray said on twitter they are going to condense a 2 year process of deploying 600mhz in just 6 months. Some claimed that they can do that since it only requires minor tweaks to existing 700mhz with no new equipment needed. Don’t know if that’s entirely true though.

  • Frankwhitess

    Umm…. Can some one text, call or twit John Leger and remind him that he is suppose to give us Uncarrier God knows what number… He said by summer time.. It’s summer time.

    • Andrew Addison

      August is summer time silly. lol Summer time is from the other half of June up until the first half of September. By summer time meaning they were going to work on deployment is what he means. The light up of sites won’t be active until sometime after Summer time is done and over with. You see the difference now?

  • bkat11

    “dB is deceiving to people who are used to base 10 numbers. Since dB is a logarithmic scale, a 3db gain is doubling the signal strength”

  • Jason Caprio

    From this article nearly 1 year ago: https://www.tmonews.com/2016/08/t-mobile-says-network-coverage-match-verizon-within-12-months/

    “T-Mobile CTO Neville Ray today said that T-Mo’s coverage will match Verizon’s within the next 12 months, if not sooner.”

    Well, it’s been just about 1 year, and T-Mobile hasn’t come close to meeting Verizon’s total LTE footprint. Am I missing something here? I think Neville just got caught in a blatent lie. If I can overlay T-Mobile’s coverage map over Verizon and see zero gaps, then I’ll believe it.

    • Andrew Addison

      Yes they sure have come close to Verizon Wireless coverage. They are very reliable, stable, outstandingly great with voice calls, coverage, better LTE signal than any other carrier throughout USA. Why are you here? I thought you were not going to come back on this website. Just seriously leave us all alone Bro.

      • Jason Caprio

        Better LTE signal than any other carrier? Are you delusional? You must not get out of the city much. Try some actual traveling and you’ll see what I mean.

        Anyway, my point was, Neville Ray claimed T-Mobile would MATCH Verizon’s coverage in 12 months from last August OR SOONER. It won’t happen. He lied.

        • Sharti24

          Arguing with that Andrew addison idiot is like talking to a wall. You cant win

        • Andrew Addison

          Ahaha that’s right Sweetie pie. So whats next???

        • Sharti24

          Only reason they dont ban you from this site is because you work for tmobile somehow

        • thepanttherlady

          That’s a big negative. At least as far as I know. Can’t ban everyone we don’t like or agree with…no one would be left. LOL

        • Sharti24

          Lol true but common now. Have you looked at his history? Every post he argues with someone and states he’s right even when he’s wrong. Some of the things he posts makes you wonder if he even believes what he’s saying is true

        • Jason Caprio

          I agree. He seems to just enjoy talking trash to people. Even though I am not praising T-Mobile up and down on this site, I AM a former customer of theirs and I do not berate people who don’t agree with me.

        • Andrew Addison

          Awwww Sweetie you said that you were going to leave this site and never return though, right??? Why are you here? You said that you would stop harassing us and there you go harassing us??? Leave us Be. We do not care about Verizon Wireless or AT&T or even Sprint. Pretty soon T-Mobile-MetroPCS is going to be overtaking AT&T Mobility for that # 2 spot. AHAHA.

        • thepanttherlady

          Oh, I have. You should have seen the posts back when David exited. O_O

        • Sharti24

          Who’s David And how long ago was that? Lol

        • Daniel

          David started this blog. Then years after he sold the rights of the website to phonedog he was forced to resign due to a disagreement between two parties. Everyone really liked him so everyone was angry and the comments erupted in chaos. This was several years ago. Now David works at the T-Mobile headquarters I believe in the advertising department.

        • thepanttherlady

          I don’t think he’s there anymore. Hasn’t been for a while.

        • Daniel

          Ah okay

        • Fabian Cortez

          Oh, I have. You should have seen the posts back when David exited. O_O

          Or even when guest mode was still active! O_O

        • thepanttherlady

          Those too. If you were here during that time I’m sure you know what I’m talking about.

        • Andrew Addison

          You are one nosey person that feels that you need to mind everybodies business. Boy Bye.

        • Andrew Addison

          I am apart of the T-Mobile-MetroPCS somehow and is a true advocate for T-Mobile-MetroPCS. I even have their services for crying out loud.

        • Jason Caprio

          I noticed that. I was going scrolling through his post history and all he seems to do is fight with people who disagree with him. He doesn’t seem capable of having a civil debate. You disagree with him, he starts the childish name calling. He must be a young teenager or something or a very immature adult.

        • Andrew Addison

          Actually it was you that said that you would leave this website, right? There you go being childish by talking down on T-Mobile-MetroPCS about how bad their coverage and LTE smells. Boy please, don’t dish out on what you cannot take in there Buddy. If you are going to be able to dish it, then best to believe that you somehow are going to have to learn how to deal with what comes with all of it in return. Teenager??? You must be dreaming.

        • Andrew Addison

          Lies lies lies lies lies. Yes way better signal LTE strength than any other Carrier throughout USA. Why are you mad??? Verizon, AT&T and Sprint may claim to have LTE icon on their phone, does not guarantee actual LTE connection. Try again Buddy. Sorry they did not lie. John Legere/Neville Ray did not lie. Goo sit down Loser.

        • Jason Caprio

          Very mature with the name calling. How old are you, 14? I lost count of how many times I had an LTE Icon on my T-Mobile phone, and had a slower than 2G connection. I think you are just saying things just to say them with no facts.

        • Andrew Addison

          Ahahahahahaha poor Dear Sweet pea, T-Mobile-MetroPCS has stability, stronger LTE signal than any other carrier than is within the whole USA. I am stating facts. Guess what sweetie??? Verizon has their LTE icon always on the same going for AT&T and in some areas that they so claim to cover excellent call quality, LTE signal will end up you having either not allowing you to connect to the internet or have upper speeds of LTE. How sad. T-Mobile-MetroPCS outshines Verizon, AT&T and Sprint on every even Day there Bud.

        • Andrew Addison, while I am a TMo supporter, bruh, you need to get out and travel. T-Mo doesn’t cover many fringe areas that well. So I’m with Jason here.

        • Andrew Addison

          Sorry nobody asked you. I do travel and my answer will remain the same. T-Mobile-MetroPCS Nation will always be way Better with reliability, call quality, coverage, stability, better data speeds within areas, cities, towns that I so happen to hang out in. You personally do not know me, so how about you take your bug a boo having self and leave me alone. T-Mobile-MetroPCS covers many areas that I hang out in. Nice assumption. You are not a T-Mobile-MetroPCS fan. So trying to hate on T-Mobile-MetroPCS on a secret level of things. What a pathetic human being you really are Buddy. Goodbye.

        • Bill Berry

          And why again is that important or we should care?

    • Bill Berry

      And that may very well be true, but unless you’ve got to have coverage wherever you are and wherever you travel to; I just don’t care who has what and when. What I care about is where I live, where I travel and the coverage I have. After that, it’s about saving money and how best to do that after a carrier has met my initial expectation. Before Band 12 came along, I couldn’t use T-Mobile where I did travel, today, no problem if I have the device that also carries that band. Until it was available I used Straight Talk on Verizon and I bought a phone that is also unlocked for GSM; it doesn’t have Band 12 and thus I remain with ST (V). My next new phone will have that band and at that time I will return to T-Mobile if and it appears they currently do offer a better amount of data at the price mark I currently pay. I outright own my phone and pay $50.47 a month which that total includes taxes. I get 8GB of data and unlimited everything. I’m not going to hobble over a few dollars here or there nor do I have to buy a new phone every six months, but hey, it’s my choice, yes? Like it’s your choice, however different it may be! Take care!

  • Andrew Addison

    Who me???? I love Android phones way Better. Iphones are cool, but not for my cup of tea. Android are awhole lot better to deal with and manage verses iphones themselves.

    • Sharti24

      Ok i thought you would like the iphone more because you and apples Ceo have a lot in common

      • Andrew Addison

        Oh really??? How sooooo????? Iphones are cool, but most of their apps you would have to pay for in order for you to use them on your cell device, which explained why I never owned an apple phone in the first place(meaning the iPhone). Androids are more reasonable, especially it being the Samsung phones that are out today, are more similar to iphones, except Samsung phones are androids verses apple devices.

  • Andrew Addison

    Yes it will happen you hater. Bye bye

  • Andrew Addison

    Excuse me??? WOW This is my actual account. That Jason guy is not me. Okay you are comparing me to someone that does not have the same identity as me or perhaps me sounding similar?? Yes we both sound similar does not mean that you have to accuse me for using a different account. OMG leave me alone already dude. Stop assuming.

  • Sharti24

    No never! I love this site

    • Andrew Addison

      No you do not, you actually hate this website.

  • Daniel

    Unless it was panttherlady.
    At first I thought he was just trolling, but then I saw his twitter.

    • Sharti24

      No it was Andrew. Pantherlady is the sites moderator

      • Daniel

        Sorry for the confusing wording. I was suggesting the moderator could have taken some of his posts down. Not at all suggesting she is Andrew. But yeah he most likely deleted them himself as she is pretty favorable of free dialogue.

        • Sharti24

          Ah yes. I re-read that and understood it the second time. He would be cool if he was realistic. Its good to know that he loves tmobile but to brag about them like theyre inferior is ridiculous. Plus he has metro anyways lol

        • thepanttherlady

          Which to be fair is technically T-Mobile. :)

        • Andrew Addison

          More realistic?? I am being VERY REALISTIC AND MORE REALISTIC THAN YOU ARE BEING ABOUT RIGHT THERE BUDDY. Sorry, but T-Mobile-MetroPCS Nation are one whole company. So therefore I have T-Mobile through MetroPCS with the same data Strongest LTE signal and reliability like what T-Mobile has. You do know that T-Mobile became TMUS(T-Mobile-MetroPCS US) way back in May 2013 in the reversed merger/take over right??? Sooo your information is inaccurate. T-Mobile-MetroPCS is top notch over Verizon, AT&T, Sprint. Better stability, call quality, better LTE signal than Verizon, AT&T and Sprint.

        • thepanttherlady

          Someone who gets it, yay!

      • thepanttherlady

        I have the ability to delete comments. I usually only delete the ones that are spam, get too political or someone has really gone off their rocker and attacks another poster.

    • thepanttherlady

      He deleted them.

  • Fabian Cortez

    No, he was previously “Drewski” under a guest account a while back.

    • Andrew Addison

      Sorry, but that Jason guy is not me. Why am I still being dragged into this conversation? And yes I used to be a guest on this website, but since they are no longer doing guest account is when you would have to use your own accounts. Yes I am Andrew Addison aka Drewski. Still, doesn’t give you guys the right to accuse me of using a different account when I’m actually being truthful with my real identity here. Sooo as for that Jason guy, as you guys should be able to tell that I’m not the same person as that Jason dude.

  • Rob

    LG or Samsung? I’d rather have no phone. I’ll keep my HTC U11 thanks. T-Mobile has excellent coverage in the Denver Metro area, not worried about 600MHz right now in the least.

    • Andrew Addison

      Well I’d say you should still considered the 600mhz spectrum. Samsung would be the better route to go with. They have become very similar to iPhones now. Samsung is so much Better than LG now.

      • dtam

        I have lost faith in Samsung products actually. I have an S7 Edge and a pink line developed on the screen. Luckily I was still within my 1 year warranty but there were many many others that couldn’t get their defective phone fixed b/c they were out of warranty or bought a grey market phone. Add in exploding phones, exploding washing machines and tv’s coming apart at the seams, you realize Samsung is too big right now and have quality issues.

        Don’t get me wrong, I’ve had defective LG products too, but they at least own up to their problems

        • Andrew Addison

          Well to me I’m going to go ahead and give one of Samsung products a try. Just because that one incident with Samsung Galaxy Note 7/Note 7 pluses happened, does not necessarily mean that it will all happen. No I’m going to have to disagree with you on owning up their mistakes part. Samsung does own up to their mistakes and find other ways in trying to fix their issues. I also have a Samsung flat inch high definition screened tv in my house with no known issues.

        • dtam

          It was the exploding note and exploding washing machines that got me worried. and then the lesser known S7 pink line issues along with their KS8000 tv’s splitting apart.

      • Rob

        I’m perfectly happy with my U11. It’s the best phone I’ve ever owned and I’ve had 23. I’ll never buy another Samsung device as long as it has KNOX and a locked or worse, encrypted bootloader and I’ll never buy another LG device after they abandoned the G2X after botching it and all the models they released with shoddy solder. At least HTC learns from the mistakes they make. Samsung and LG just don’t care. LG has had solder issues since at least the G2 and they’re just finally getting around to addressing it? Seriously?!

        • Andrew Addison

          So why asked yourself LG or Samsung?? I going to have to disagree with you a little bit here, I know a lot of people with Samsung devices and not once did they ever have an issue with their Samsung device at all whatsoever. So I don’t see where you are getting at with every single Samsung phone being that way. HTC phones are cool and all, but with Samsung, their cameras are more advanced, with a lot more of advanced featurings verses it being the LG or HTC. Yes that one Note7/Note 7 plus did have major issues, but at least all of the other phones that I’ve witness seemed to not have had issues with other people using them. So I don’t know, not saying you never had any issues, but I personally have not heard of anyone else with their Samsung devices going all crazy on them. Maybe they are not keeping up with their updates and maintenance software that Samsung allows others to do for their phones. HTC is not all that perfect either. I believe that all other brands could give someone an issue or problem. I’ve known people to have kept their one Samsung device for almost 2 years with no known issues. We shall see what happens. It will not stop me from purchasing one of the latest Samsung devices that comes with Android 7.0 Nougat operating system.

        • Rob

          You obviously are arguing just to argue. Check out Howard Forums, XDA Developers, or any other site. Samsung devices are far from infallible. I’ve personally had the Samsung Captivate which was actually a decent phone and still works despite it being the AT&T version of the first Galaxy S, I’ve had the S3, the S4, and the Note 5.

          My Captivate never had any problems besides battery life. My S3 overheated and suffered severe throttling problems and I had to replace the battery twice in the year I had it. The S4 I hated so much that I traded my roommate for his HTC One that he couldn’t get used to and I fell in love with it. The S4 was a laggy mess thanks to TouchWiz, I liked the picture quality on the One better than the S4 despite the fact that the resolution was lower because of Ultra Pixel. The only complaint I really had with the One was that it got really hot when it was charging.

          I got the M8 next and then decided to skip the M9 because of the Snapdragon 810 issues and got the Nexus 6 and then the Note 5. Again, TouchWiz was just a flat out nightmare. The Exynos also had overheating and throttling issues so I might as well have gotten the M9. It had a hard time holding on to a fringe signal, often leaving me with no data service in places my Nexus 6 worked just fine in.

          The thing that really pissed me off about Samsung was when they rolled KNOX out to the S3. If they wanted to ship out new phones with KNOX, that’s great, but when I have already purchased a product, adding in a warranty voiding “security feature” is just plain garbage. If I want to root my device, I bought it and should be able to do so. That was the beginning of the end for me and any Samsung product. The Note 5 put the nail in the coffin. Software updates took forever as well. HTC rolls out updates pretty consistently and while they say they void the warranty if the bootloader is unlocked, they almost always honor it for hardware issues while Samsung sees that KNOX flag tripped and it doesn’t matter what the issue is, warranty is void.

          On top of that is the AMOLED burn in problem. Both my Note 5 and my Nexus 6 got pretty nice burn in of the status bar.

          Thanks but I’ll stick with my U11. 600MHz is not important to me at all, as I said, the network in Denver is incredibly robust, partly due to VoiceStream acquiring the mobile network Qwest had already built out here.

          Oh and just a tip – if you’re going to try to troll someone, you might not want to say things like nobody has problems with x company’s devices. EVERY device is subject to issues, it’s the severity and the manufacturer response to the issues that matters.

        • Bill Berry

          HTC makes that, yes? I do not have an opinion on the other brand name devices; they all have their positives and negatives, though I will admit getting around Samsung’s Knox wasn’t easy. I just don’t understand what the big deal is with making it hard for users to flash their own Roms on their own devices. It’s the reason why I buy HTC devices; they’re not a pain in the hind parts to flash or modify. I’m using a HTC One M8 for Windows (not a typo) and it too is set up to run the Redstone flavors of Windows Phone 10. I don’t need the fastest, coolest, a gazillion GBs of memory, and expensive phone out there. My phone serves it purpose and I’m happy with it. I rather buy another M8W or M8A or the M9A if doing so saves me money and I can use it wherever I travel. I’m pretty sure we all want that, yes?

  • Andrew Addison

    Nope because I know I’m right. I will always be right.

  • Any idea if Pixel XL2 would have it? After all, isn’t the XL2 an LG this year?

    • Sharti24

      Should have it. Nexus 6 was one of the first phones to have 700mhz when it started rolling out

  • thepanttherlady

    NOT ok!

    • Sharti24

      Sorry. Nothing gets by you on this forum!

      • thepanttherlady

        I read every single comment posted.

  • Austin

    What the hell happened to this website? Now I come here and it’s just Andrew claiming to know everything while stating no facts and knowing nothing about the actual ways networks work.

    Every time somebody says something that could be an actually interesting conversation about the network, he comes in all calling everybody “sweetie pie” and saying “bye bye”.

    Is it wrong of me to wish the grown ups could talk? We just wanna have a civil conversation about networks. Based on actual facts. Pls?

    • Daniel

      Thank you

    • Sharti24

      Haha #facts

    • Sharti24

      He is obsessed with tmobile and see’s them as the best and only carrier worth using. He’s not realistic or open minded. It’s his way or the highway. You argue with him and he states that is he always right and you are always wrong period. Its like he works for tmobile or gets paid by someone to stir the pot so he can get attention

      • Andrew Addison

        Still here sweeties

        • Sharti24

          Not for long!

        • Andrew Addison

          YES FOR LONG YOU WHACKO. BYE.

        • Andrew Addison

          Yes for long.

        • Sharti24

          Stop deleting all you comments then. Own up to the shame you’re posting!

    • Jason Caprio

      I couldn’t agree more. People who feel the need to use personal attacks on a forum should be banned. It is totally uncalled for.

      • Andrew Addison

        Haaaa really? You should be banned. Chows.

    • Brett Roberts

      Agreed!

      • Andrew Addison

        Haaaa who are you?? You don’t even know me personally. Sooo therefore I could careless.

        • Brett Roberts

          You cared enough to leave a stupid response just to voice your pointless opinion. Go find something to do with your time.

        • Andrew Addison

          But you addressed me first like a scary person on drugs, right? Remove those wrinkles please? You wanna address, Please state my name, otherwise please keep your mouth closed. Boy Bye. Get kleenex and go wipe your nose filled with boogers all up in there Buddy. Yuk. LOL STUPID RESPONSE MY BEHIND. MIND YOUR OWN BUSINESS NEXT TIME. PLEASE GOO WASH YOUR FACE AND CLEAN UP YOUR NOSE SACK.

        • Brett Roberts

          Lol. I don’t even know what you are talking about. Scary person on drugs, remove wrinkles? Nose filled with boogers?? What!? How old are you? And you question your stupid response?? Here we go again. Moderator, why is this type of behavior allowed in this community? I agree with most others that Andrew is just throwing verbal rants at people for the sake of hearing himself talk. Can we please ban him? Andrew, that’s enough out of you; seriously!

        • Sharti24

          The only good thing about him is he is a tmobile fanboy and not verizon lol

        • Brett Roberts

          Lol true! I have T-Mobile myself!

        • Andrew Addison

          Leeeeaaaavvveeeee meeeee alone you nobody. You know exactly what I’m talking about. You sat around and started running your mouth about how you agreed with the other person. Seriously leave meeeee alone and stop secretly addressing meeeeee. I seriously am pissed off. Goooooooo away. I don’t care to hear your Face with your bad hygiene having self Broooooooo. Stop addressing me and butting into my conversations. I don’t care what you think. You are the Animal that neeeeeedddsss to be banned with your discoloration face looking self Dude. Gooo wash your face and Brush your teeth. That discoloration so called cute face of yours is not doing it. Your Breath stinks.

    • Bill Berry

      It’s like what I’m about to say…”I use a HTC One M8 for Windows which courtesy of the XDA-Developers community has help teach me how to make it appear to Verizon and it’s MVNOs to be a Lumia 735. “That’s not a typo; I”m one of about two people in my town that use a Windows Phone device. I don’t need to make an appointment with a shrink or have the desire to buy the latest greatest fastest phone every 6 months or with every iteration of the iPhone. The damn thing works, it does what I need it to do and I’m happy. I do not need or seek or require permission from the rest of the known universe to use my phone as I see fit. Yes, I know Microsoft has screwed us over twice, likely a third is in the works and I will have to abandon this platform at some future date, but not today! ” The moment I say “Windows Phone”…oh dear God. You’d think the world came to an end as we know it…”You mean you’re using a Windows Phone, are you kidding me?” I don’t give a rat’s behind about how many apps, I just want the big ones to work flawless and be supported. And yes, I know that’s not likely going to happen because of the reason stated above! You can bet your hind parts that someone will have a negative comment and who the hell cares what I use and what I do not use. All I ask is do not invoke a double standard; it’s a choice, my choice! I wish we all could be civil…carry on! Thanks!

  • Sharti24

    Att and verizon have more LTE coverage than Tmobile. Thats a straight fact. Boo cakes lol

    • Andrew Addison

      Actually nope they do not. It is not all the way accurate. They only do all of that for advertisement purposes. So therefore it is all false. Nice try though.

      • Sharti24

        Dude you dont know what you’re talking about

        • Andrew Addison

          Stop harassing meeee already. Ggooooosssshhhh. leave meeeee alone BROOOOO. SCREW OFF. I KNOW EXACTLY WHAT I’m talking about. Leave meeee alone. Goooo away. I don’t care to hear your ugly face talking crap to me Dude.

        • Sharti24

          Tmobile covers 315 million with LTE
          Att covers 317 million with LTE
          Verizon covers 322 million with LTE

          #straightfacts

    • Brett Roberts

      This is true and I’m even with T-Mobile (for 5 years). I travel in a lot of rural areas in the inter mountain west and I rarely have service. Hopefully this will change with Band 71 deployment. T-mobile exaggerates their coverage too. They still use GSM/Edge (2G) in a lot of areas. Even after the reframing of the AWS Band. It is getting better though. I’m hoping Band 71 closes some gaps and gets them in check with AT&T and Verizon as far as area cell coverage goes. 600MHz panels will get them up to speed as far as proper radio propagation goes.

      • Sharti24

        Att and verizon over lap. Thats why their coverage is so strong. Tmobile builds towers in rural areas so 1 bar is good enough for their standards and they can say they have coverage there.

        There would be no need for tmobile to use both 700/600mhz on the same tower in rural area’s. They both reach about the same distance and 5x5mhz is enough bandwidth for rural areas

        • Bill Berry

          You are correct! Before Band 12 became standard fare; there was no T-Mobile coverage out in much of West Central Georgia and it was either Verizon/Sprint (CDMA) or ATT (GSM) and whatever kissing MVNO cousin the three of them had. Band 12 is as good as Verizon for the very reason Verizon used it in the first place; they don’t need a tower every 4 or 5 miles or so.

        • Brett Roberts

          Agreed. It would make sense maybe for them to stick with 600MHz with the wider channels. If regional licensing allows.

    • Bill Berry

      I don’t care who has what and how many, EXCEPT where I live and where I travel. I’m pretty sure that rings true for all of us.

    • Sharti24

      Drewski, where you at son? See above post for facts

  • Brian W

    TMobile works well for me but having 600 will be nice for rural areas. It should allow TMobile to cover those rural spots nicely. Been kind of wanting to switch to an iPhone but the next one may not be 600 ready. Either way it’s nice to see TMobile really taking the network seriously

    • Brett Roberts

      I’m with you there! I don’t think iPhones will have Band 71 support until the 2018 models though unfortunately.

      • Sharti24

        Thats how they get you to buy a new iPhone yearly. Look at the iphone 6, no band 12 forced me to update to the 6s

        • Brett Roberts

          So true!

        • Bill Berry

          No carrier gets you do to anything; it’s a choice, and if this is your cup of tea, God bless you. I own the HTC One M8 for Windows (that’s not a typo and it’s made to appear to Verizon as a Lumia 735) and the HTC One M7 DE (and yes, the camera sucks) that doubles for GPS since it runs it perfectly without a SIM card. Both relics in their own right and both work just fine, but that’s me. I can buy a M8W or M8A for about a $100 new; it’s not the fastest phone, nor do I expect it to be, but there’s something to be said about paying a flat charge for your monthly service. It’s a choice though. Mine is saving money. And it’s okay, because I ask myself all the time why am I using a phone which Microsoft has broken it’s promises a gazillion times to we users; answer, because it does exactly what I need that device to do and what it does, it does great. But again, that’s a choice and of course, I’m crazy as a loon!

        • Sharti24

          You need a M9 (or newer phone) that has band 12 capabilites to get better coverage

        • Bill Berry

          I’m aware of that if I want to use the T-Mobile network. the HTC One M8W I’m using is from Verizon Wireless and as you may already know they’re GSM unlocked for T-Mobile and AT&T and their MVNOs, but you’re correct; the M8W does not have Band 12 over on the GSM side of the house, but I could use it if I put either a Verizon or AT&T SIM card or it’s MVNO cousins which I do, I use Straight Talk on Verizon towers. I’m actually looking at the HTC One M9 for that very reason; I like the HTC devices; their easy to flash; thanks and take care!

        • Brett Roberts

          I agree with your way of thinking Bill. I use an iPhone SE. I. Know it’s not the latest and greatest iPhone. But it fits my needs. It’s small and powerful and much cheaper than the rest of the iphones. I love the size of it as I don’t need to carry something the size of a small book in my pocket. lol I will keep this phone until the iPhones of 2018 are released with their band 71 support. I just hope they continue to release small handsets. I used to have a couple of Nokia Lumia Windows phones and enjoyed them.

    • Sharti24

      I dont know what part of the country you’re in but according to tmobiles 600mhz deployment map. Band 71 wont be deployed in my area (NE Ohio) till Aug. 2019. So i can get the new iphone this year, skip a year and then get the 2019 iphone

  • Bill Berry

    Band 12 went a long way in covering parts of rural Georgia that only Verizon Wireless covered with their 700 band with a 700 of their own.

  • Austin

    If that’s true then why do I need a 4G LTE “signal booster” to get a signal in my house when Verizon and AT&T don’t need one? TMobile is my carrier of choice but we cannot kid ourselves, their network does not have the best coverage yet.

    • Andrew Addison

      I never once had an issue with signal/data connection happening to me there. Perhaps in some areas that have poor signal strength won’t allow you to remain on LTE connection. Over where I’m at, I could be in an areas with poor signal connection and it still allowing me to have full access to LTE Non stop. Not kidding. I believe that T-Mobile-MetroPCS has the Better network/reliability within other areas throughout the whole country of the United States of America over bummy AT&T/Verizon/Sprint. I know for a true fact that it does. Verizon/AT&T are not all out reliable and them having certain areas not connecting to the internet or call quality the proper way, (although they do claim to have excellent signal throughout all of USA with excellent reliability within every areas throughout USA) and T-Mobile-MetroPCS so happen to have way Better reliability/Strongest LTE signal within the areas that AT&T/Verizon so claim to have excellent signal out in(knowing that to not always be so true).

  • Bill Berry

    It’s about choice; my choice, your choice, our choices, yes? I come to this website to learn and learning doesn’t have to be argumentative or negative or throw any of us under the bus doing it. It’s okay to justify your reasons without resorting to the lowest common denominator. We can disagree with your reasoning or you, us, but after that, do any of us need to put others down making the point?

    • Andrew Addison

      Ew who are you? You are a NOBODY, looking for an argument to be started. Listen, aint nobody asked for your soggy cereal input, now did they? Boy make me stop. I guarantee that I will always win. Like I have told every other troll like how you are, learn how to better read, comprehend and understand true facts before jumping right into people’s conversations just for the heck of it. T-Mobile-MetroPCS Nation has a way more stable, over the top notch network over soggy cereal Verizon, AT&T, Sprint. Go wipe your tears Please?? Stop suffercating all of us with your stank attitude and bad energetic smell. goooo sit down somewhere. Nobody was talking to you to start with. They started with me first and me stating a fact which nobody had to jump in and attack me on. It is not my fault that your area has some sort of blockage in it, otherwise yes T-Mobile-MetroPCS pretty much outshines AT&T/Verizon/Sprint with Better reliability, Strongest LTE Data signal/Excellent call quality throughout USA. BOY BYE.

      • thepanttherlady

        Andrew, if you can’t start posting in an intelligent and mature manner I’m going to just delete your comments. This is ridiculous and not even funny anymore.

  • Andrew Addison

    LAME I SAID SOME POOR COVERAGE AREA ACTUALLY ALLOWS YOU TO HAVE FULL LTE CONNECTION AND SOME POOR COVERAGE AREA WON’T ALLOW YOU TO HAVE LTE CONNECTION. LEARN HOW TO FREAKING READ BRO AND STOP TALKING TO ME. YOU ARE SERIOUSLY DELUSIONAL AND PATHETIC. STOP HARASSING ME ALREADY. STOP CALLING MY NAME. AGAIN YOU ARE IN AN AREA THAT HAS POOR CONNECTION THAT WONT ALLOW YOU TO CONNECT TO THE LTE WHILE ME ON THE OTHER HAND OVER WHERE IM AT WILL ALLOW IT AND ME BEING IN AN POOR COVERAGE/FAIR AREA. BOY GO SIT DOWN. BOY BYE. BUH BYE. I DONT CARE WHAT YOU SAY. I’M ALWAYS RIGHT AND YOU ARE ALWAYS WRONG.

  • Austin

    I think he’s a satire account.

    Here for the entertainment of whoever is behind it. And the annoyance of us.

    • Sharti24

      Tmobile probably pays him to hype up their network

    • Andrew Addison

      ANNOYANCE OF WHOM YOU BUG? GOOOOO AWAY ALREADY AND STOP STALKING MEEEEEEEEEEEEEE. GOOOO GOOOOO GOOOOO AWAY. I DID NOT MAKE UP ANY FAKE ACCOUNT. THIS IS MY ACTUAL ACCOUNT TO HAVE. YOUR BREATH SMELLS BAD. BUH BYE.

  • Andrew Addison

    Again learn how to read properly you lost person. Let me repeat it for you again: LAME PERSON I SAID SOME POOR COVERAGE AREAS, ACTUALLY ALLOWS YOU TO HAVE FULL LTE CONNECTION AND SOME POOR COVERAGE AREAS WON’T ALLOW YOU TO HAVE LTE CONNECTION. LEARN HOW TO FREAKING READ BRO AND STOP TALKING TO ME. YOU ARE SERIOUSLY DELUSIONAL AND PATHETIC. STOP HARASSING ME ALREADY. STOP CALLING MY NAME. AGAIN YOU ARE IN AN AREA THAT HAS POOR CONNECTION THAT WONT ALLOW YOU TO CONNECT TO THE LTE WHILE ME ON THE OTHER HAND OVER WHERE IM AT WILL ALLOW IT AND ME BEING IN AN POOR COVERAGE/FAIR AREA. BOY GO SIT DOWN. BOY BYE. BUH BYE. I DONT CARE WHAT YOU SAY. I’M ALWAYS RIGHT AND YOU ARE ALWAYS WRONG.

  • Andrew Addison

    ANOTHER THING IS AT&T/VERIZON LTE ICON SHOWING AS THE THEIR LTE SIGNAL CAN STILL REMAIN WHILE WITHIN THAT ONE AREA THAT THEY SO CLAIM TO ALWAYS HAVE EXCELLENT LTE CONNECTIVITY CAN STILL NOT CONNECT TO THE INTERNET OR HAVE SOME SORT OF BLOCKAGE WITHIN THE OUTDOOR OR INDOOR AREA THAT ARE ALWAYS HANGING OUT IN AT THAT MOMENT. NOOOW PLEASE LLLLLEEEEEEEAAVVVVVVEEEEEE. GOOOOOSSSSHHHH GOOOO AWAY ALREADY.

  • Brandon

    I’ve seen this on 2 other websites

  • JLP474

    I personally have no coverage issues…phones are also too damn expensive to get the latest and greatest…I’ll be waiting a little bit till more band 71 devices become available.

  • Michael Mantion

    I dream of a Samsung S8 Active with note software and ability to interact with an Spen with the new X16 mode with Band 71 suppport.

    Of course that won’t happen . I can still dream.