New T-Mobile family plan offers four lines, each with 10GB of data, for $120

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Time for another Un-carrier Amped move? Yep, time for another.

T-Mobile just revealed its newest Un-carrier Amped announcement, which is a new family plan that offers two lines with 10GB of 4G LTE data for each line at a price of $100 per month. Each additional line can get 10GB for $20 per month. If you sign up for a fourth line before Labor Day on September 7, though, you can get that fourth line for free. That means four lines with 10GB of 4G LTE data each for $120.

This new family plan also includes all of the Un-carrier goodies that you’ve come to know, like Music Freedom, Data Stash, and the recently-announced Mobile Without Borders. You’ll get unlimited talk, text, and data with each line as well.

A few other tidbits regarding this new family plan:

  • It’ll launch in stores and telesales on July 15, and will be available online in the coming weeks
  • It’s a limited time offer
  • If you’ve got a line that needs more than 10GB of 4G LTE data each month, you can bump it up to 20GB for an additional $10 per month
  • All 10GB of 4G LTE data is available for tethering usage
  • Current customers can migrate their lines to the new plan

It’s also worth mentioning that if you’ve got a promo plan that you don’t want to get rid of, you can add Mobile Without Borders to it for an additional $10 per month. So if you’re signed up for the plan that includes two lines with unlimited 4G LTE data, you can add Mobile Without Borders to it for $10 more.

T-Mobile’s new family plan launches tomorrow, July 15.

Source: T-Mobile

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  • Das_juden_adam

    So much yes

  • Rirruto

    is 5 lines still allowed? would that be $140 plus tax?

    • Jay J. Blanco

      Depending on credit. With t-mobile u can have 10 lines

  • JLV90

    Not for me, I have the 4 for $100 deal with my personal line having unlimited data. I use 20-40 GB a month. No one else on my family plan ever goes over their 2.5 GB.

    I have 6 lines this would make my plan $160. Assuming discount applies $136 before taxes and fees. I pay about that much taxes and fees already included right now on my current plan. Why would I want to pay more?

  • geekyjeff

    My big question is what happens to the 2-line $100/mo w/ unlimited data plan. I definitely want to take advantage of Mobile w/o Borders, but still keep my current plan otherwise. I’m hoping I don’t have to switch to a capped plan again. I’m not crushing my data usage, but just knowing that I have unlimited LTE is pretty liberating.

    • JLV90

      You pay $10 per month when you want to add mobile without borders if you want to stay on your old plan.

    • PMB01

      You are grandfathered into your current plan because it is now no longer offered. You can add MWB for $10/month.

  • Chris Drudge

    4th line have to be new? Or can existing 4 lines subscribes participate in the promotion?

    • jay

      existing can participate.

  • Verizonthunder

    Looks like t-mobile is slowly phasing out true unlimited data sad day.

    • Kiwini

      Inevitable

    • While the new plans aren’t truly unlimited 4G LTE; 10GB + Data Stash before a slow down isn’t terrible..

      • Verizonthunder

        No it’s bait and switch. Also not uncarrier move.

        • How is it bait and switch? These plans are optional.

        • Verizonthunder

          There promotional plan 2 lines with true unlimited talk, text, data for $100 bucks was a real deal.

        • And if you have that you get to keep it.

          It was always a going to be a limited run thing.

          Now this is a new promotion.

        • Verizonthunder

          Understood, just seems like t-mobile is changing from uncarrier to carrier.

        • archerian

          they gave away the farm luring subscribers, now they have to slowly start paying the piper… once customers are settled into killer promotions, giving them a choice to move to newer “promotions” that cost more just wont work

        • If they aren’t better deals than what they have – people won’t move to them.

          No one is holding a gun to their head.

        • archerian

          giving them a choice to move

          no one is forcing anyone, the 5-10 million grandfathered customers are an indication of that. By grandfathered I mean the really grandfathered customers like FamilyTime, Even More etc. not the various choices of Simple Choice. But the promotions are getting more expensive or less attractive.

        • I feel you, but I don’t see the other guys doing any better.

          While no it’s not truly unlimited 4G LTE data, but 10GB PLUS Data Stash & no overages? That’s a nice deal when you compare it to the other guys.

        • theseanteam

          Carrier move was the changing of unlimited with the soft throttle… Pretty much only one tiny negative move drop in an ocean of positive, un-carrier moves.

        • Mike

          Even Sprint has plans to do away with unlimited data. Its becoming a thing of the past again.

        • theseanteam

          Do you even know what promotional means?

        • JLV90

          And a limited time promo. It wasn’t gonna last forever you can still get 2 unlimited lines for $140 a month. $119 if you have a discount which didn’t apply to the 2 for $100

        • Jesse

          That was more like a steal of a deal…

        • theseanteam

          Do you even know what bait and switch means?

  • Carl

    I’ll skip, stay on 4/$100 with 2.5GB each line.

    • dtam

      i agree, not all my lines need that much data….heck, i’ve never used up my 2.5 before

  • themask128

    I am guessing this plan does not allow for the corporate discount?

    • Chris

      Rep I just spoke to said no. Doing the math, the closest 4 line plan that qualifies for the discount though would be 5GB per line and be $153 after 15% off. This is better and cheaper still. Even the 3GB/4.5GB plan is still $119 after discount.

  • Mike

    I’ll keep my 2 lines for $100 as long as I can.

  • H Fawaz

    Don’t forget that the 2.5Gb goes to 1Gb in January.

    • naw they did away with that. You keep your 2.5GB indefinitely.

      • H Fawaz

        This is what is listed under my plan right now. I just looked it up.

        Up to 2.5GB 4G LTE data per line through 2015 when you buy 4 or more lines (reverts to up to 1 GB 4G LTE data per line after 2015). Speeds reduced after 2.5GB. No overage fees. Unlimited music streaming on services like Pandora, iHeartRadio and more that does not count against your 4G LTE data. Recommended for moderate web browsing, email, and social networking.

        Where are you getting your information from?

        • Mike

          John Legere announced it at uncarrier 9.0

        • Mike

          google it

        • my bad – I thought it was common knowledge.

          I’ll try and find it online.

          (source: I’m a sales rep.)

        • Mike

          Legere announced it at Uncarrier 9.0

        • skywalkr2

          It would be nice if they updated their plan descriptions to stop the miscommunication.

        • Mike

          yes it would

        • Carl

          Then, somewhere along they line it was stated that we would NOT revert back to 1GB after 2015 correct??

    • dtam

      that was initially true, but one of the uncarrier moves was you will never pay more, but you can pay less so the 2.5 gigs became permanent

      • H Fawaz

        This is what is listed under my plan right now. I just looked it up.

        Up to 2.5GB 4G LTE data per line through 2015 when you buy 4 or more lines (reverts to up to 1 GB 4G LTE data per line after 2015). Speeds reduced after 2.5GB. No overage fees. Unlimited music streaming on services like Pandora, iHeartRadio and more that does not count against your 4G LTE data. Recommended for moderate web browsing, email, and social networking.

        • Mike

          it became perm to keep the 2.5

    • skywalkr2

      Does it? I thought we heard all promos were extended.

      • Mike

        they were extended.

    • H Fawaz

      This is what is listed under my plan right now. I just looked it up.

      Up to 2.5GB 4G LTE data per line through 2015 when you buy 4 or more lines (reverts to up to 1 GB 4G LTE data per line after 2015). Speeds reduced after 2.5GB. No overage fees. Unlimited music streaming on services like Pandora, iHeartRadio and more that does not count against your 4G LTE data. Recommended for moderate web browsing, email, and social networking.

      • UMA_Fan

        Watch the uncarrier 9 event. The promo dat DOESNT expire anymore. It was originally going to. Now it isn’t.

      • David

        It will now last forever….

    • skywalkr2

      The plan on TMO website does still say this:
      Up to 2.5GB of 4G LTE data per line included instead of 1GB through 2015 at no additional charge. (Reverts to up to 1 GB LTE data per line after 2015.) Plus, optional additional high-speed 4G LTE data available.

      • H Fawaz

        Thats what I see.

    • JLV90

      During uncarrier 9 John said all promos including the 2.5 GB would not expire as long as you leave the account open. Unlimited will be available for at least 2 more years.

  • Jesse

    Well that’s nice for the people that were complaining about their $100 family plan with 2.5 gb and how they had to pay an extra 10 bucks to take advantage of the mobile without borders. Although I’m sure they’ll just start complaining about something else now….

  • TrippleJay16

    So no tethering data/bucket and no unlimited in this plan…. hmmm.

    • besweeet

      I imagine tethering is just pulled from your regular high-speed allowance.

      • Fabian Cortez

        That’s exactly what’s going on.

  • Bill

    Tmobile needs to start caring about existing customers. So nothing for people with 1GB 4GLTE plan, huh?

    • Mike

      you can migrate to any of the new promo plans.

    • Jesse

      You always have the freedom to switch to it…

    • theseanteam

      Mobile without Borders was a benefit for existing customers… especially those on the 1gb plan and not on the promo plans.

    • David

      What do you mean? Your getting free data with no limits and unlimited talk/texting for $50. I thinks thats a pretty good deal! Jump on Demand! Jump 2! Music Freedom! and etc…..

  • H Fawaz

    This is what is listed when I look at my plan right now.

    Up to 2.5GB 4G LTE data per line through 2015 when you buy 4 or more lines (reverts to up to 1 GB 4G LTE data per line after 2015). Speeds reduced after 2.5GB. No overage fees. Unlimited music streaming on services like Pandora, iHeartRadio and more that does not count against your 4G LTE data. Recommended for moderate web browsing, email, and social networking.

  • H Fawaz

    Do 2.5Gb customers have to pay $10 for Mobile without Borders? I didn’t know that.

    • JLV90

      If you don’t want to switch to this new plan yes you have to pay $10 extra for Mobile without borders.

  • Heh

    Sprint trolls gonna be mad LOL

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  • livewire1981

    Cool plan, but does not work in my case. 5 lines and most of them never use close to 1GB let alone the 2.5 they have. And I have data stash on my line. Good move for power users between Wi-Fi and LTE usage. #Ampedup

  • Cellphone Chris

    Holding on for dear life to my 2 for $100 with Unlimited Data. I’ll add MWB temporarily when I travel to Mexico or Canada.

    • ggfb20

      The 2 for $100 with Unlimited lte Data is a simple choice plan right? So why isn’t MWB not going to be allowed without an extra $10/m?

      • Cellphone Chris

        Because it’s a promotional plan. I wouldn’t expect it to be thrown in for free. I’m fine with paying $10 for a month that I’m traveling. I don’t have the need to call outside of the US under normal circumstances.

  • tranceformer978

    I’ll pass, my family barely uses that much data. I still have 10GB of Data Stash I need to burn before the year is over. Most of my data doesn’t count anyways thanks to Music Freedom.

  • TK – Indy

    The beginning of the end for unlimited on T-mobile. Also, much worse than the 2x unlimited for $100. Bandwidth crunch is showing.

    • jay

      unlimited is still going to be offered just at the normal price points.

    • Mike

      They are pushing JUMP and anytime upgrades to get rid of old devices so that they can move towards a full VoLTE network as well as more data aggregation.

  • Eliminating Unlimited Data…

    Well stated…T-mobile is offering more data to customers willing to sign up for a new family plan, but, eliminating one option for unlimited data

  • TJ

    I appreciate TMobile’s variety of plans and the fact they need to increase revenue. But I doubt there’s really that many families with four or more heavy cellular data users to justify 10gb each. Sure maybe one or two. But I think with data caps (Vzn/ ATT) and/or coverage gaps (Tmobile) most users have come to terms relying on wifi for majority of usage. We use 300gb of wifi per month. And maybe 5gb of cellular data. I would love to pay Tmobile rather than a cable company but there has to be a dramatic increase in data allowances.

    • Joe D

      At 30 a line,who cares if they use 1/10th each month. Thats dirt cheap.

      • tj

        Uhhh, because if we aren’t using that much then we are paying for what we don’t use? I like Tmobile and their efforts and would like to switch back. But as it stands we are paying AT&T less than $30/line for less but more reliable data.

      • Car

        30 dollars a line is not as cheap as 25 dollars a line yo.

      • skywalkr2

        I can already up one of my lines on 4/100 if I wanted to… it is more flexible for me. Fortunately only my daughter goes over 2.5g (damn you youtube/snapchat).

  • TK – Indy

    So are there overages, throttle, or hard caps on these lines? #bigboldnotcool

    • theseanteam

      Doesn’t appear to be. #assuptionsmakinganassofyou

    • Jesse

      I could have sworn T-Mobile was known now for not charging overages? Matter a fact John tends to tweet it daily… As for the hard cap it’s obviously 10gb per line which then it’ll go down in speed…

      • Fabian Cortez

        Pay him no mind when he does that. He has Sprint and is only trolling.

        • Jesse

          Poor guy!

  • Alex Pilaia

    Completely not needed. 4 lines for $100 with 2.5GB each should be more than enough data for an average user. 10GB per line is overkill to have per line. Im lucky if my old school mom and dad use 1GB combined per month.. Would have made much more sense to keep the 4 lines for $100, but have a pool of 10-15GB for the whole family plan. This was if 1 or 2 users are heavy data users, they have the whole pool to use.. plus any data stash that may apply.

    • SBacklin

      I have to agree. It wasn’t quite what I was expecting given the kind of hype that guy was giving this new promo the last 2-3 days. This would fit some people but, I can’t see it being very many.

      • skywalkr2

        If I needed 10gig a line it would be great… but as I do not… not so great for me.

    • Alex P.

      I agree. We are currently on $100/4lines/2.5GB plan and so far it’s enough data for everyone on it, especially since music streaming does not count against that limit and basically no one on our plan is using “data” portion to share/upload large videos/photos taken with their phones (only through Wi-Fi). And yea, it makes sense to use the “shared” data pool for families where one person might be consuming more data than all others. Kind of disappointing announcement.

    • paqman

      Except 2.5GB of data will end this year. It’s just promotional. It’s normally 4 lines for $100 with 1GB of data each. I agree with you on the pool though. I would much prefer to have a big 10-15GB pool for all of us.

      • Carl

        Not ending this year.

        • paqman

          That’s cool. News to me. But it will still end right? They just pushed the promotion date back a bit?

        • Mike

          As part of uncarrier 9.0 it will be perm to keep the 2.5

        • paqman

          Sweet, I hadn’t heard that.

        • Mike

          if you wanna read up on it, google uncarrier 9.0 for consumers

        • paqman

          Thanks

        • Jose

          If you go online and check your account it shows it ends

        • Mike

          if you google uncarrier 9.0 for cunsumers, it was extended. system needs to be updated

      • Alex P.

        It might end but nothing will change for the people who are already on this plan.

        • paqman

          I spoke with T-mobile multiple times about this. When the promotion ends, it means that I, who signed up under the promotion, and currently have 2.5GB, will go back to 1GB. It doesn’t mean that just cause I signed up during the promotion, that I will continue to get 2.5GB after it ends.

        • UMA_Fan

          Just watch the uncarrier 9 event and its explained there your 2.5 doesn’t expire

      • Chaz D.

        Tmo announced months ago that the people who have the 4 lines for $100 can keep it, you’re grandfathered in

        • paqman

          Right, I know we can keep the 4 lines for $100, but was told that the data will go back down to 1GB from the promotional 2.5. But it looks like some people here are now saying that they are going to make 2.5GB the new 1GB permanent. That’s cool.

        • Mike

          yup. it was part of uncarrier 9.0

        • dtam

          search “Un-contract” on this site or “Un-Carrier 9.0”

        • paqman

          Thanks.

        • UMA_Fan

          Yes the 2.5GB was made permanent

      • Alex Pilaia

        2.5GB is permanent. This promotion is for the “high data” users that dont know how to use wifi.. Im sure most ppl are on wifi 70% of their day (home + work). If you can utilize the 10GB on each of your lines, then this plan is for you. If you are like me that does not go over the 1.5GB data line, then Ill stick with the 2.5GB per month and put the $20 extra in my pocket.

        • PMB01

          Your plan is permanent, but it is now no longer offered. This has replaced it. You are grandfathered in. If you change it, it’s gone.

    • 21stNow

      Who are you to say what is needed? I’m not a heavy data user but recognize that other people may want more data.

    • theseanteam

      Well.. 4×100 w/ 2.5 each is gone, so if you want more data than 1gig, this is a pretty good deal. It’s not unlimited though. You can still go 4 lines total, but 2 w/ 1gig each and 2 w/ unlimited for $160/month–one of the best deals around. But sadly not as good as those promo offers. Hopefully they come back in one form or another, but with more folks using more data, I do see T-Mobile joining the other carriers moving away from unlimited.

      If you want unlimited I suggest hopping on that train sooner, rather than later… who knows when it could all come to an end!

    • The logic of this makes no sense. Because it’s an “overkill” for you, it’s not needed O_O ??? How is more data for about the same price bad? Is this Verizon logic or something. I have siblings that are in high school, cousins, etc. that would benefit of it this. Heck most of my friends would, you may be in the minority on this one.

  • joemail

    what about if you have 5 lines like i do.
    1 on the old $20 unlimited, 4 are on 2.5GB
    Can i change the 4 to 10GB and leave my 20$ alone?

    tmobile is getting complicated with their plans…

    • paqman

      I’d like to know this as well. Right now we have 6 lines at $120. (Well, $130 cause I pay $10 more for an extra 2GB of data on my line). But this makes it seem like I can get 10GB of data for that same price I’m paying to get the extra 2GB. I want to know if I can leave the 5 lines at 1GB, and upgrade just mine to the 10GB.

      • Mike

        $30 each additional line to this promo. If you sign up before said date above in sept, they will give the 4th line free

        • paqman

          I’m still confused. I currently have 6 lines for $120. How much to just upgrade one of them to 10GB?

        • Mike

          they have various upgrades to data amounts on each line depending on your needs.

        • paqman

          Interesting. I’ll have to call them tomorrow and see what I can get.
          Edit: And I know I can upgrade data to different amounts, I guess I was just wondering if I can get my line to 10GB for $20, while everyone else stays at 2.5GB.

        • Alex Long

          No, all the lines have to be under the same base plan. Your base plan is $100 for 4 lines/2.5gb per line/$10 addl line.

          To get the 10gb you have to upgrade your entire base plan (all the lines) to the new $100 for 2 lines/10gb per line/$20 addl line (4th line free).

          Your new cost would be $160 for 6 lines, each with 10gb data (plus data stash and mobile without borders).

        • JLV90

          You can’t upgrade one to 10 GB as there is no separate 10 GB plan yet. You can upgrade to unlimited on that line for $30 extra.

        • Mike

          oops hit wrong key. $20 per extra line

      • Jose

        It would be better for you to leave it alone and if you want more gigs pay 20$ more to be on unlimited data for your line. It’s actually better doing this.

        • paqman

          Bummer. Yeah I don’t really need unlimited so the $20 extra would be a waste. But right now I’m paying $10 extra for a measly 4.5GB. Which honestly is more than I need. But 10GB for that same price would have been sweet. Still I’ll call tomorrow, never know what they’ll do.

    • JLV90

      No all your lines have to be 10 or 20 GB of data on this plan.

    • theseanteam

      Doesn’t appear unlimited is an option on this promo plan.

  • Julian64

    Can additional lines be added for $10 after the first 4?

    • Medion

      It’s $20 per line.

  • Guest

    Good plan for T-Mobile to get some extra revenue out of it. Customers are leaving T-Mobile because speeds slow down and they don’t know what throttling is and think it’s slow crappy service. This is great marketing!

    • Mike

      T-Mobiles churn rate is very low and they signed up 2.1 million subs in Q2 2015 between postpaid, prepaid, and MVNO’s. So people leaving? Not exactly

    • Medion

      T-Mobile isn’t throttling anyone. And given how much data you’d have to use to be “deprioritized” you won’t get that much data on another carrier without spending hundreds a month.

      • Eric Weber

        I think he is referring to the reduced speeds after using the 1gb/2.5gb that their plan includes. I know someone who was complaining about the speeds and saw that they went through their 2.5gb in the first week so they had three weeks of throttled speeds. Not everyone realizes that their plan only includes a certain amount of high speed data.

        • PMB01

          That’s not T-Mobile’s fault, though. They just needed to upgrade their plan. They’ll spend a lot more on the other carriers for the same amount of data, but with a hard cap and overages. Upgrade to truly unlimited and you’ll likely never see your data be de-prioritized.

  • Medion

    So far, I’m not impressed with “Uncarrier Amped.” Each perk so far seems to have severe limitation aimed at padding T-Mobile’s bottom line. Thankfully, however, they aren’t forced.

    Jump Amped – You don’t own the phone and the total cost is more than buying the phone, assuming you jump at least once. And that doesn’t count resale value if you had purchased the phone.

    Mobile w/o Borders – Seems like a ploy to get people to switch plans. Won’t work on existing promos and non-current Simple Choice plans ($20 unlimited plans?).

    New Family Plan – Old plan was $100/mo for 4x line, 2.5GB per line. New plan is $140 for 4 lines ($120 is only if you sign up within a window). Old plan is $10 for each additional line, new plan is $20 per line. Additionally, I’m hearing (please correct me if I’m wrong) that you cannot tether/hotspot on this new plan?

    We go to Canada once per year. The last time we went, we were billed $0.40 for a 2 minute “call” for checking our VM. That’s it. For me, it’s not worth the extra $10/mo to add to my plan, even if it does speed up the data.

    • UMA_Fan

      Not true what you’re saying about jump amped. Tmobile isn’t charging more than the full cost of the phone even though it’s a lease. So you pay off the difference between what you’ve paid in lease and full cost of the phone to buy it out. Tmobile doesn’t charge a lease payment exceeding the full cost

      • Medion

        Straw man. I never said the monthly cost was higher. I said the total cost was higher.

        If you want to buy an iPhone 6 16GB on EIP, it’s $0/down, $27.08/mo for 24 months, and you own the phone Total = $649.92.

        If you lease through Jump on Demand, it’s $27.08/mo for 18 months ($15 promo is for trade-ins), for a total of $474.44. You can then either turn it in, or buy it for $250 (total is now $737.44).

        So you either pay the same monthly price and lose value (you never own the phone), or you pay more to own it.

        • cellularcrazy09

          But you are wrong on that final payment. They will never charge you more than retail for the device. The final payment will be determined by retail minus payments= final payment. You can buy out your lease at anytime. That $250 is the fees they charge if you turn in a busted phone.

        • Medion

          Nope, not wrong. Read T-Mobile’s literature on the plan. It’s a flat price for purchase option. It’s not the way you’re interpreting it.
          Don’t believe me? Put your money where your mouth is. Lease a phone for 18 months, then use the purchase option. Then report back.

        • Prod1702

          I am sorry you are wrong and Cellularcrazy09 is right. Look at your Lease paper work the buy out price on a Iphone 6 is 163. I know because I just one and that is the price on my paper work. It is 27.08 over 18 months – the 15 credit for the promo. That makes 487.44 with no promo. Now take the retail cost of 650 – the 18 months of payments = 162.54. This is your Purchase Price. I am not sure how you got 474.44 above since if you take 27.08 x 18 you get 487.44. If you do not believe me and you bought a iphone 6 16gb on Lease look at your paper work. You will see that you are wrong and I am right.

        • cellularcrazy09

          From the newsroom on tmobile “If you keep your phone and make the final payment, the total of your payments will equal the retail price of the phone”

        • UMA_Fan

          Your buy out fee pricing is incorrect. Tmobiles structured it so you never pay more than the phones full cost. They’re not making money on the phone by charging more for it.

          People hear the word lease and start turning off their brain. The ONLY reason it’s a lease is so people can swap phones whenever they want and a lot more often.

    • dtam

      I disagree on Jump Amped, worst case, you just pay out your lease, and buy the phone at the end (pretty much same as an EIP)

      I agree on the other 2, I’m not paying more for Mobile w/o Borders, I only need international data for Waze/Google Maps and it works great for that already with the 2G speeds.

      You can tether the entire 10 gb with the new plan

      • Medion

        Jump On Demand, using iPhone 6 as example:

        If you want to buy an iPhone 6 16GB on EIP, it’s $0/down, $27.08/mo for 24 months, and you own the phone Total = $649.92.

        If you lease through Jump on Demand, it’s $27.08/mo for 18 months ($15 promo is for trade-ins), for a total of $474.44. You can then either turn it in, or buy it for $250 (total is now $737.44).

        So no, it’s not the same, sorry.

        • kiblawi2000

          The additional $37 is for the sales tax they never collected because it’s a lease. Since you’re purchasing is, you will be charged sales tax since you’re owning it now.

        • Medion

          Incorrect. It is not advertised as tax. Secondly, not all places charge sales tax. Are you saying that they charge sales tax in jurisdictions that don’t allow for sales tax?

          That’s the price. Not sales tax.

        • Epic_Ninja420

          Unless you live in Delaware, Oregon, NH, Montana or Alaska, you are paying sales tax.

        • Medion

          Right.

          So, the total price of lease plus purchase option is $687.44. EIP or outright is $649.92. This is the same regardless of where leased/purchased. So, if purchased in one of those 5 locales, explain the price difference.

          Kibla’s point was that the difference was sales tax. I explained to him that this is the actual price, and that tax is a separate thing. If purchased in a locale without sales tax, you’d still pay a higher price.

          Are we clear now?

        • Visvism

          I actually signed up for JOD for the $15 promotion on iPhone 6 so it works out in my favor as I traded in an old smartphone for eligibility. I’ll look at the documents that they provided at signing to see exactly what it says on my sheets for the buyout at the end if I keep the device for 18 months and take the purchase option. I should see a huge savings because of the promotion over the Apple MSRP.

        • Medion

          Yea, the $15 deal is a solid deal (the other JOD phones don’t qualify for it). You make out like a bandit on that one.

        • Ronnie Miller

          But to get the $15 deal, your trade-in phone has to worth something like $216/$261. I tried with my iPhone 5 and they would not let me get into that promotion.

        • Medion

          Which is why I didn’t use the $15 figure in my calculations. I used the most common number. You can get much more for an iPhone 5 on Swappa/Ebay/Amazon than you could through just about any trade in service. Heck, I sold a 2 year old Galaxy S2 back in 2013 (unlocked Euro model) for $190, rather than get the <$10 trade in that I would have gotten elsewhere.

        • Wanderer

          When you are buying EIP, even when it is $0 down, you must pay sales tax at the store…
          So
          JOD = EIP if willing to buy at the end of lease

        • Medion

          When you buy EIP, you pay sales tax if you are in an area with sales tax (most are).
          If you use JOD, you pay the same monthly payment as EIP, but for 18 months instead of 24. going by resources released so far, if you wish to keep your phone after 18 months, you pay a $150-$200 purchase option fee. This causes the cost of JOD to be more than EIP for purchasing the phone in many cases. That’s without tax in either case. However, the material does imply that you will pay monthly sales tax on the lease payment (something that EIP does not do).
          So no, it’s not cheaper due to tax, as the tax is collected regardless.

        • Wanderer

          If there is “purchase option fee” in addition to paying rest of the phone’s retail price + tax. That will be a no brainer.
          No one will buy after lease ends.
          However I haven’t heard of this purchase option fee until now. Is this on the fine print in JOD? I thought only thing that they make you pay is when you return leased phone as damaged.
          I have calculated when JOD was announced and so far, it makes sense to JOD android and EIP iphones since android phone’s depreciation is way too high for resale in an year or two. Iphone holds value well and makes more sense to buy and later sell on swappa.

        • dtam

          but the point of what i said was that it doesn’t cost you any more to be on JOD vs EIP

        • dtam

          where are you getting the $250 for residual purchase amount? from terms and conditions:

          $0 down at signing + $15/mo for 18 mo. lease O.A.C. If you cancel wireless service, remaining lease payments become due. Device must be returned in good condition or purchase option exercised ($164 for iPhone 6 offer)at cancellation or after 18 mos. Qual’g service, eligible device trade-in & upgrade req’d. No device security deposit. Monthly taxes additional.

        • Medion

          I edited that 2 hours ago to show $200 as a worst case scenario ($240 was flat out wrong), just in case it’s still not showing for you. Anyway, it’s the purchase option, and it is marked on T-Mobile’s website.

          I was going off of this: http://www.whistleout.com/CellPhones/Guides/t-mobile-jump-on-demand-vs-sprint-lease

          “After 18 months, can buy device by paying Purchase Option Price ($150 – $200)”

          If you can find something saying different, please let me know.

        • dtam

          I agree with what your website says. but the $150-200 purchase option price is the monthly payment x 6. so for iphone 6 16 gb, it is 27.08 x 6 = $163

          this says $164 (probably a rounding error)
          http://newsroom.t-mobile.com/media-kits/jump-on-demand.htm

        • James

          Jump On Demand is geared to those who like to upgrade to the latest and greatest devices; you can Jump 3x a year. If you aren’t one who does, then the service is not for you. When you jump, you trade in your device and the EIP is whipped and you start over

    • Mike

      the leasing/buying is just like a car. You have to consider all the numbers. I havent had to use a jump yet because my iPhones have been worth more than I owe so i just trade it in and have a credit. Leasing is also ok too because why pay off a device that will be dated in 2yrs as technology moves foreward? As for as bottom line, yes, they need to improve it. Have you seen what the EBITDA is? They need to return to consistent profitability.

      • Medion

        Mike, I agree that they have to hit profitability. Doesn’t mean we can’t point out where there is and is not value.

        • Mike

          Agreed. Most people dont understand the dynamics however. This is a good promo for those that did miss out on the previous offers like the 4/100 2.5 and the 2/100 unlimited though.

        • Medion

          I don’t think the 2/100 is dead yet, though it was scheduled to end on 6/27. I switched to it yesterday!

          I know I won’t qualify for Mobile w/o Borders unless I pay $10/mo for it. I wonder if my old plan qualified without the $10 fee (my understanding is that it did not). I had the old $20 unlimited plan.

        • Hector Arteaga

          It ends today.

        • Visvism

          The 2/100 and 4/100 plans end July 14 otherwise known as today.

        • Medion

          Thank you. That makes sense ,given that Mobile w/o Borders is only for plans actively being offered from 07/15/15.
          The prior end date was 6/27.

        • Visvism

          Yeah I saw when they pushed the date back to July 14th which then began to make sense when the last Amped event took place and John announced new plans coming on July 15th. I also have the 2/100 and will keep it as it is a great deal. When I need the MWB add-on I’ll add it and then take it off to save $10 in months when I’m not traveling to Mexico or Canada. If I get wind that the add-on is going away I will add it on and keep it so that it is grandfathered.

    • Anthony S Jennings

      T-Mobile has to figure out a way to make money out of these otherwise unsustainable promotions. Since “each perk so far seems to [be] aimed at padding T-Mobile’s bottom line” I’d say I’m glad they’re not throwing out the stockholders with the bathwater.

      • Medion

        I agree that they have to make money. That doesn’t mean we can’t point out where there is and is not value for a consumer.

        • Clifton K. Morris

          Right. But the truth is that the entire industry runs on an old billing system called Amdocs. In fact, SBC (now AT&T) was one of the first companies to invest in that billing system.

          Today, T-Mobile runs on a new billing system, and they’re giving it a run. It must be a cooperative marketing agreement with Ericsson to show off the new billing system’s features. Likely Ericsson will convert others so they can react.

          Either way, T-Mobile is acting a bit funny. It’s like watching children in a candy store with mom’s credit card. Everything looks great to eat (and a promotion worth creating ads for).

          Remember, long before T-Mobile was a network, it was an office in Seattle filled with marketing teams that actually relied on AT&T cellular service when T-Mobile hadn’t built a network in Seattle yet.

        • Medion

          Right, but where are we going to get rubber pants our size?

          See? I can change the topic too!

        • Clifton K. Morris

          I’m just saying you should expect more promotions and deals because when it comes to making money, that’s really a secondary thing. The new billing system creates “Services” first.

        • Fabian Cortez

          That’s classic VernonDozier/Clifton K. Morris for you!

          Always changing topics. Always coming up with random doomsday theories.

        • Aaron C

          LOL – Vernon Dozier

    • JJCommonSense

      The mobile without borders doesnt coat more on the new plans..and tethering IS included with the 10gb plan

      • Medion

        1) I never said it cost more on the new plans. I said it cost more on the OLD plans :)

        2) Thank you. I had heard that but was unable to confirm.

    • James

      Family lines are always 4 for $100 tho. Main difference is the data. Lets say a family of 4 wanted 5Gb per line thats $180 ($20 per line for additional data) right there. So if you’re doing the promo package now, thats already a $60 savings plus 5 more GB, $40 if you miss the promo. It still gives you options

  • VernonDozier

    Actually, they’re pulling promotions out of their rear too fast for customers to react or even visit the store. T-Mobile should be waiting until August to have these rapid-fire promotions.

    The beginning of the schoolyear is always a better time to have promotion-after-promotion-after-promotion. Right now, people are on vacation.

    It’s almost like John Legere is worried he won’t make the same in compensation and salary as last year. ($25M)

    • Scoop003

      I don’t know about you, but my kids start school in one month. This is the back to school time for most states.

      • VernonDozier

        I think your right. I should have considered that my wife, who is a professor, is already receiving “Welcome Back” emails from the university for work… I should have taken that into consideration. My mistake.

    • yankeesusa

      Well, just from a visual perspective, most tmobile stores i see are always full and verizon is empty. Of course that doesn’t necessarily mean anything but as of right now tmobile is doing pretty good with what they have. Can they continue this without and influx of funds for the next 5 years, probably not.

      • VernonDozier

        Well, I agree. I think it will be very apparent in about 5 years and tend to believe that the days of a pure-play wireless provider are numbered.

        One big issue is T-mobile’s CPGA or cost per gross-add numbers. An additional $350 in CPGA costs to buy out contracts easily places T-Mobile higher in acqusision costs than any other carrier. To compound this, I could easily cancel my service and allow my wife to setup a new service. When we become “new” customers, we save money and get the new handset promotion rate.

        There are a few ways a company like T-Mobile could decelerate this type of churn. One way already exists in the marketplace and it’s called “Bundling”. For example, companies who offer bundles have to replace ALL services. That’s why the attrition rates at companies like Verizon, and AT&T will be lower. Customers need to replace internet services, TV, and home phones service too. The amount of work a customer needs to change several services would be greater. People are more willing to forego the discounts earmarked for “new customers” when they are required to change home phone, TV, DSL or other services. There are only a few pure-play companies that exist in the service area. One is DirecTV. DirecTV bundles with DSL providers nationwide.

        T-Mobile doesn’t bundle with anyone so it’s left to promote like crazy the low prices of its phones, and paying ETF fees. Those promotions are serious money it could be spend on adding coverage, scaling its network to add additional bandwidth and coverage (I get about 3MB speed on T-Mobile LTE service right now), bidding and winning airwave rights.

    • J Cav the Great

      They are two different promos. One includes Canada + Mexico

      The other is for data…

    • No he’s giving customers options. It’s funny how people say companies don’t do enough, but when they do some complain. Which is it? Do you want change or not?

      • Aaron C

        AT&T and Verizon must be seriously ticked off right now.

    • Tmo

      I think T-Mobile is gearing up for August. August 2014 was the best month in T-Mobile USA history for subscriber adds. If T-Mobile waited to announce these offers in August they would have missed the boat. The people at T-Mobile are a marketing genius they are able to offer the consumer what they want and not settle for being the cheapest carrier and customers are moving to T-Mobile in droves. Look at Sprint they are the cheapest carrier of the big four, but can’t seem to get ahead. I know Sprint doesn’t have the best network compared to T-Mobile, but Verizon keeps touting their network and can only post gains do to tablet lines.

  • Haverhill_John

    If you are currently on the 4/$100 plan, it does not expire. You are grandfathered in.
    https://www.tmonews.com/2015/06/t-mobiles-2-for-100-and-4-for-100-promotions-ending-soon/

  • Giro

    If only this promotion would include tax I would change my plan to this but 120 + tax at least $140 so I will continue with my current plan $110 (1GB)with tax for 3 lines with state side include too

    • Alex Pilaia

      dude, why are you paying $110 for 3 lines of 1GB when you could be paying $100 for 4 lines with 2.5GB per line? Just add a dummy line to the plan, and place it on a cheapest phone Tmo offers…

    • Jesse

      If it were me, I would totally jump on this new promo plan Because then you would be future proof PLUS it comes with the mobile without borders plan which is 10 bucks right there. But yes of course with your plan you have the option of adding it/taking it off your account at will. To each their own I suppose.

      • Aaron C

        That’s the only reason I’m doing it. Future-proofing. Who knows when I’ll really NEED that kind of data, and for a small extra $, it’s worth it since I can supposedly keep it “forever.” I have five lines, so it will be an extra $30 or so over what I’m paying now. But hell, when I was with Verizon my AVERAGE bill for three lines was $230.

        • Jesse

          How I wish we had these choices in Canada.. :(

  • Dylan Gorski

    So is the two line unlimited going away or is this new plan just a replacement for the 4 for $100 plan?

    • theseanteam

      Going away. Both promo plans end on the 14th.

    • Visvism

      Plans end today, so if you want one of them grab them before today ends.

  • J Cav the Great

    I’m already on the 4 for $100, I will migrate to this one..but how much to add one extra line ? So I can have 5 total..

    • Visvism

      If you sign-up during the promotional window you will get four lines for $120 and then each additional line will be $20 so you are looking at $140 + taxes and fees.

      If you sign-up after the promotional period you are looking at $160 + taxes and fees.

  • Ordeith

    That’s actually a decent offer. If it were any other network I might have to pursue it. My experience with T-Mobile has just been getting worse.

    • Visvism

      Sorry to hear that; my experience has been getting better and seems to be on an even higher trajectory with band 12 being turned on in areas across the country that I frequent. Now just for a band 12 iPhone…

    • Aaron C

      That’s too bad. I went to NH this week and was amazed how everywhere I was on Edge last year was LTE this year. I mean almost 100%. There were a couple areas I was roaming (Loon Mountain/Lincoln was the main one), but other than that, LTE along just about every highway and in every populated area. They are killing it.

  • Randy Allen

    This is actually a really good offer and your extra data doesnt expire in january 2015. So right now i pay 4lines for a 100 and an extra 20 a month so for 2 of my lines get 4.5 gigs and in january those lines would go to 3 gigs and my other 2 lines revert to a gig. Im gonna go for this plan cuz its the same price as im paying already and all my lines get 10 gigs dont expire. Some of these ppl on here all they do is cry awesome deal with tethering you wont find anything better.

    • skywalkr2

      Except as explained quite a few times… you will not go back to 1 gig per line. you will stay at 2.5.

      • Randy Allen

        Um actually you will go back to 1 gig it still says it on the fine print you just keep that price point

      • H Fawaz

        Everybody explains it, yet log into your account. It still says it expires in January 1st. I will definitely take the word of what is listed on my account vs. Someone on the internet that supposedly heard a CEO say promo plans are permanent. July like unlimited plans are unlimited. Till they remove this asterisk, I have to believe the promo reverts to 1Gb Jan 1.

    • Jesse

      Not to mention mobile without borders is included!

  • Genecio

    Wish we had a Single Line promotion even if it only had like a 1 week window to take advantage of. Oh well, I’ll stick with my Grandfathered Unlimited Everything for $70/Month.

    • NardVa

      I wish they ran more single promos, but with T-Mobile it’s all about the family plans. Nobody cares about the single line market anymore.

  • Mirad77

    Can anyone here help explain how current customers can migrate. I have simple choice family plan with three lines.

    • Medion

      Log into your account.

      Click plans.

      Change your plan. I did it last night for a different plan.

      • Mirad77

        Thanks

  • NardVa

    Compared to the old 4 for $100, this plan is better for people that need more than 2-3 GB of data per line.

  • Does it include Data stash too? If so, that’d be AMAZING!

    • ChristianMcC

      I can imagine it would qualify based on the requirement for a 3gb plan or higher, but haven’t seen anything to support or dash this.

    • “Ltd time offer; subject to change. Qual’g postpaid Simple Choice North America service w/ 2 line min. req’d. Taxes & fees addit’l; customers responsible for taxes & fees on free 4th line. Data Stash: Rolls up to 12 mos”

  • Irfan

    T-Mobile Data Strong Network now start adding this BS
    ,CEO called other Crap because he said AT&T and Verizon do not have Strong Capacity on its network ( towers ) now what T-Mobile start doing it

    *Unlimited 4G LTE customers who use more than 21 GB of data in a bill
    cycle will have their data usage de-prioritized compared to other
    customers for that bill cycle at locations and times when competing
    network demands occur, resulting in relatively slower speeds. See t-mobile.com/OpenInternet for details.

    This is Data Strong Network instead of calling data throttling they call it De Prioritized

  • I think this is a great move. Great for a back to school special, especially for students going back to or starting college. I hope at some point individual lines get a promotion though, lol. Seriously though.

    • JLV90

      MetroPCS? Unlimited data for $60 6 GB of tethering, all taxes and fees included in the price.

      • I don’t really like MetroPCS. The name or the service. I know T-Mobile bought them out, but my mom and sister have them, and their service sucks. Now it could be their phones, but I’m just not fond of them. I love staying solely with T-Mobile.

  • tmonyc

    As long as it is not de-prioritized more than prepaid or MetroPCS, then I think this is fair. The network only as so much capacity and T-mobile was never supposed to be your main broadband carrier.

  • Mike Palomba

    If someone switches to this plan will it be locked in and grandfathered for them or can T-Mobile change it at anytime? I know with the 4 for $100 it became grandfathered for anyone that had it and if this one does to then it will be great, but if not then I don’t think I’ll be switching

    • Adam

      I don’t take the rate locking promise too seriously. No one can promise something forever. But it does not sound like there are plans to start charging for the 4th lines as long as you signup before 9/7.

    • Taylor

      Called Tmobile today with that same question. Rep told me once you get on the plan your grandfathered, and you can still add the $10/per line to make it 20 GB. Even if they don’t offer the plan anymore. As long as you don’t change plans. Which makes this plan a great deal in my opinion.

  • Dark enV

    This seems like a great offer but I don’t think I’ll be switching to this plan. I have 9 lines on the 4 for $100 and 3 are grandfathered unlimited data plans one has 4.5GB with rollover data and the rest are 2.5GB. Two of us definitely need unlimited data and the rest would be fine with 10GB but T-Mobile told me I can’t keep my unlimited data on this plan so that’s a deal breaker for me. Plus the cost would be a good bit more than what I’m paying now, I think $70 more a month.

    • Visvism

      Yeah it’s unfortunate that with the newer promotional plan you can’t have any unlimited ‘high-speed’ data lines. You either choose 10GB or 20GB per line. It’s clear that the future is none of the national carriers offering unlimited ‘high-speed’ data.

      • PMB01

        You can still get unlimited LTE on some plans. T-Mobile hasn’t stopped offering unlimited data and has committed to it for another 18 months or so.

        • Mike

          He was talking about the future . Sprint CEO was right unlimited data plans will be going away in the future of it doesn’t the price for unlimited data will be ridiculous

        • PMB01

          So was I: “T-Mobile hasn’t stopped offering unlimited data AND has committed to it for another 18 months or so.” (emphasis added)

    • Mike

      if you need unlimited on the 4/100 2.5 plan, you can add unlimited for $30 per line. I did that until the 2/100 promo came.

      • ALUOp

        He did mention he has 3 lines upgraded to unlimited. He said “grandfathered” so they’re probably additional $20 each instead of $30.

  • GinaDee

    I’m glad they are letting all that data be used for tethering. That’s the way it should have been all along. It’s my data and I should be able to use it as I want it.

    • Fabian Cortez

      All of the other plans, except for unlimited, had tethering provisions for the plan bucket.

  • Joe

    I’m still on the 3 lines 1 gig per line plan. Pay $90 for access plus the cost of my phones. Wish they would bring out something along the lines of this. I really don’t need 10 gigs as I’m on wifi most of the time. So I don’t see paying $30 more a month for something I won’t be using. Also right now I get a corp discount (grandfathered in). If I move over, I think the discount goes away. I read they didn’t allow discounts on the $100 2 line unlimited plan and the $100 4 line 2.5 GB plan.

    • AJ

      they do allow corporate discount on 4 for 100 plan. i get it every month

      • Mike

        I lost it when I moved to the 2/100 plan from that plan. So I can say as well, yes, they allow it as long as you had the discount before

        • steveb944

          Not necessarily. Public sector employees still get it.

        • JLV90

          you didn’t lose it it just doesn’t apply to the first two lines if you add a 3rd line you’ll get it for $34 instead of 40

        • zOMGLOLROFLMAOz

          Woah so from the 3rd line onwards the discount applies? that’s pretty nice to know… Also I was told we would lose the discount on the new 2/100 plan for the “new” advantage plan.

    • mahermusic

      I still receive the 15% discount on my $100 4-line 2.5 GB plan. I pay $85 before taxes ($100 – $15). $105.45 after taxes.

  • Mike

    Im at 24 GB and still hit peak speeds. They only prioritize if they need to. Thats what people are forgetting about. I have been prioritzed in the past, but my speeds were still in the 20Mbps range. Not the 50-70 I normally get but not the throttling to like 2G speeds people think. All carriers do this. Its nothing new.

    • Mirad77

      Wow 24GB? On your mobile phone? Even with the fact that music streaming isn’t counted? Damn!

      • dtam

        that’s 8 hours of netflix HD

        • Mirad77

          Yeah to my point though, on your phone?

        • dtam

          I don’t personally do it, but sure. some people commute long distances or have jobs waiting around

        • Mike

          Its JUST like dtam said. Netflix.

  • stuman74

    I saw that too in Uncarrier 9, but then why when I log into my T-Mobile account it still says that it will revert back to only 1 GB in Jan 2016?

  • ddlar

    Prioritization is very different from throttling. It’s not really difficult to understand if you try. I’m not sure everyone wants to understand the difference.
    With throttling the device is limited to a specific speed.
    With a low priority a device has to wait if the network is busy. Many prioritization schemes have mechanisms to guarantee that low priority users get, at least, some bandwidth. I don’t know what T-Mobile’s prioritization plan does.
    In most cases, a low priority user would not even notice that they are running at a low priority. In most cases that throttling is used, it is immediately apparent to the user.

  • thenew3

    I wonder if they will offer a lower cost plan for those that don’t need 10gb per line. We would be fine with 2GB per line on 3 lines and 5gb on the other 2 lines.
    We were planning to move our 5 lines from verizon to tmobile in November/December when they promised to activate band 12 to improve coverage in our town.

    • dtam

      they still offer the 2 for $80 (+10 for each line) that offers 1 gb each. $10 per line gets you to 3 gb, $20 per line gets you to 5 gb

      80+30+40=150

      I think you’d be better off doing the 10 gb deal before labor day

  • Croq

    Given that I have only been to Mexico once and Canada never, I’ll be keeping my 2 for $100 with unlimited LTE. This new plan would limit my data, but would add the “without borders” option. And I would assume this new one won’t qualify for the grandfathered corporate discount (the unlimited 2-line doesn’t either).

    • Prod1702

      gives you more mobile hotspot if you use it.

      • Croq

        I don’t, but how much do you get on this new plan compared to the expiring unlimited offer?

        • Prod1702

          the current unl data plan gets unl phone data and 7gb of hotspot. the new one is 10gb of phone/hotpsot. So when you think about you could get 3gb more hotspot if you do not use any phone data.

        • Croq

          And, in my case, if I go over 10gb regularly, which I do, then staying with my current plan is probably going to work better for me. I can live with only 7gb of hotspot.

        • Nomond

          Does the 10gb carry over? If you use 5 do you keep 5 for next month?

        • siam edition

          but only 10 GB of Total pool of Data between Phone and Tethering use.

  • Mike Palomba

    Is there any expiration date on this promo for people who get it? Like originally when the 4/$100 plan was going to expire in 2016. Is there anything like that on this plan?

    • Prod1702

      T-mobile has said that no matter what you get from now on you will be able to keep it for at less 24 months. other wise I am not sure if that has been said yet.

      • Aaron C

        I thought they said “forever?”

        • dtam

          it is “forever” with the exception of unlimited. unlimited had the 24 month wording

      • Mike

        i signed up for the 2 lines unlimited for $100 and I was told as long as u keep your lines active the plan is good for life and I asked about the 24 month thing and it wasn’t true . I then checked T-Mobile site and it says the promo will last as long as u keep the lines active

    • PMB01

      Promo plans are forever. They announced that like 3 moves ago.

    • theseanteam

      As others have said the plan will grandfather you into the pricing but the 4th line being free resulting in the $120 price point is only valid till Labor Day.

  • steveb944

    I considered it, but since we have 7 lines now (everybody joined our family nucleus) it’s much too expensive. If we still have 4, maybe 5 it would have been worth it. I’ll keep my 4/100/10G offer.

  • Mike Palomba

    For anyone wondering, the plan does include data stash.

  • Adam

    I believe only the 4th line is free, so 5th would be $20.

    • Aaron C

      That is correct, just confirmed with T-Mo (I have five lines).

      It would essentially be $160 with a $20 credit each month.

      • dtam

        $20 credit forever or for X amount of months?

  • Adam

    I put the forever rate in the same category as truly unlimited.

  • Steveb9201

    When is T-Mobile going to rollout Band 2 and Band 4 carrier aggregation?

    • Fabian Cortez

      Every article…

      Give this man his carrier aggregation!

    • JLV90

      When they roll out band 2 LTE in big cities that already have a lot of Band 4 LTE.

  • Android_God

    Is Band 2 and Band 4 rolling out soon?

  • Alex

    If you have 3 people on the unlimited family plan ($100 for 2 +$40 for an additional person) that’s a total of $140. One could get the 4 lines for $120, add 10 gigs to 2 of the lines for the same $140 price and use the 4th line as the hotspot for the other person when they need it. assuming that your not a huge data user. the data stash could really add up on the spare line and when you wanted to hot spot 50 gigs after 5 months, you could. Just an idea for those who like to hotspot when travailing.

    • Visvism

      Neat idea; didn’t even think of that. I have the 2/100 deal so I think I’ll stick with it but for those who want the newer plan this is a great idea. With data stash one could rack up 100GB+ of data stash on the extra line a year unless there’s an upper limit I’m missing.

  • Bilal A

    So I’m guessing any future “amping” or “uncarrier” moves will only be avialable for free to customers on the newer plans beginning tomorrow (7/15) ?

    • PMB01

      How are you getting that? Even MWB is coming to us with Simple Choice plans for free.

      • Bilal A

        Simple choice North America plans starting 7/15 .. The promotional 4/100 (2.5 gb each) and 2/100 (unlimited) are not getting them for free. Additional $10 for the account.

  • Peter Wong

    Planning to change to that plan tomorrow. I hope 5 lines would be good. Currently using 5gb data $15 a mo. 750min talk. 2 lines with $15 5GB Data CLS. 5 lines no text and 3 lines with no data. This promotion seems promising to my family.

    They have impressive LTE speeds too.

    http://www.speedtest.net/wp/33977106.png

    http://www.speedtest.net/wp/33977094.png

  • rwmgd2

    So are the “unlimited” data plans gone?

    • theseanteam

      Nope.

      • Mike

        You are incorrect. Its 80 for the first line, 60 for the second. 140 total. That’s on their website. Know the facts before you post. Fabian was correct.

        • theseanteam

          Are you responding to me? It appears you are.

          I was responding to rwm. If I was saying nope to Fabian it would have nested under him like your post to mine. We probably responded around the same time by looking at the timestamp.

          Know how a forum works before you post.

        • Cruise Guy

          Those are the old plans Mike. The new plans have to be called in as they posted on their sight and in the ads. The Ads specifically said go into a store or call customer care to get them. The website just reflects the old plans for now.

    • Fabian Cortez

      2 lines of unlimited high speed data is $140, as it always has been.

      2 lines of unlimited high speed data for $100 was a promotion.

  • PMB01

    You’re an idiot.

    • Irfan

      really Mr. Intelligent

      • PMB01

        Yep, thanks for confirming it!

  • Mark

    I’m afraid the reason T-Mobile is introducing new rate plans (and not including Mobile Without Boarders in the 2/$100 UNL and 4/$100/2.5GB) is to try to move customers from these plans, especially the 4 lines for $100 with 2.5GB per line.

    For the average customer, most use less than 2.5GB of data in a month, especially if you have Wi-Fi at your disposal. Maybe T-Mobile realized that including that much free data was too much and these new offers are to lure people into a higher ARPU category.

    While 10GB is way more than enough for most customers, I do not like the wording in the details. It states that Data Stash may include a limit of how much data can be stashed. I think I’ll keep my 10 lines for $160 per month all with 2.5GB of data per line. At $16 per user, that’s a great deal for me.

  • NYHeel

    We have 5 lines on our promo family plan with 2.5 GB per line. But 3 of the lines have the “refer a friend” free unlimited LTE. So I don’t think there’s any reason to switch to this plan.

    • Alex Pilaia

      what is this so called “refer a friend” free LTE and is it still a promotion?

      • NYHeel

        Not currently a promotion. Basically if you got referred to t-mobile or referred another new customer, you got a year of free unlimited LTE.

        Then Legere made promotions permanent and kept unlimited for 2 years minimum, so this promo is permanent, though the unlimited part isn’t truly permanent. I assume they could replace it with some other form of a lot of data.

        I have 3 lines on my family plan with the promo.

      • (J²)

        No, it still expires after the 12 months (as intended) as it isn’t a plan.

        Legere announced promotional plans were permanent and Unlimited Data would be offered for at least 2 years.

        Judging by how T-Mobile does away with plans and promotions, I believe everyone will be grandfathered (like Verizon and AT&T) it simply won’t be an option any longer.

  • Kevin

    I’m pretty confused with the options when I try to change my plan online. The second one below matches the 10GB plan description, but the first one seems to be the ended 2 unlimited for 100 promo plan, but with NA Coverage? But with 6 lines it would be $180! I understand it is unlimited for all ling, but for those not needed unlimited, seems that it won’t be possible to have NA option for basic 6 line $120 plan @2.5G each.

    1) Simple Choice North America Plan: Unlimited Talk + Text $80.00
    This plan includes:
    -No annual service contracts.
    -Unlimited talk, text & high-speed 4G LTE data in U.S., Mexico and Canada as much as you want while on our network.
    -Two lines for just $100 per month; add more lines if eligible for $20.00 per month, per line.
    -Unlimited international data and text while roaming in 120+ countries and destinations and calls are just $0.20 per minute.

    2) Simple Choice 10GB Family $100.00
    This plan includes:
    -No annual service contracts.
    -Unlimited talk, text & high-speed 4G LTE data in U.S., Mexico and Canada as much as you want while on our network.
    -Two lines for just $100 per month; add more lines if eligible for $20.00 per month, per line.
    -Unlimited international data and text while roaming in 120+ countries and destinations and calls are just $0.20 per minute.

    3) Simple Choice Family Plan: Unlimited Talk + Text Currently active $120.00
    This plan includes:
    -No annual service contracts.
    -Up to 2.5GB of 4G LTE data per line included instead of 1GB through 2015 at no additional charge. (Reverts to up to 1 GB LTE data per line after 2015). Plus, optional additional high-speed 4G LTE data available.
    -Unlimited talk, text & data while on our network with no overages. Ever.
    -First 6 lines for $120 a month; add more lines if eligible for $20.00 per month, per line.
    -Unlimited international data and text while roaming in 120+ countries and destinations and calls are just $0.20 per minute.
    -Unlimited streaming from great services like Pandora and iHeartRadio that doesn’t count against your 4G LTE data included at no extra charge with a Simple Choice Plan.

    • CalicoKJ

      I’m going round and round with T-Mobile on this right now…I’m being told that the first one does not include any data, that you would have to add whatever data you need for each line (which doesn’t line up to the description). However when I try to change it online it just wipes out my current data and doesn’t offer the option to add per line. I’ve also been told that the 10GB plan doesn’t include the Canada/Mexico option, but again, the description says otherwise. At least when I try to change to the 10GB plan, it shows 10GB in the plan description, but doesn’t offer the option to up that if needed (I have one line that goes over that on a regular basis).
      You may have to call, but you should be able to keep your current plan and add the NA part for just $10.

    • (J²)

      It’s actually very unclear.

      Plan 1) is 2 lines (minimum) for $80, this includes 1GB of High Speed Data (Per Line) as well as unlimited talk and text. Each additional line costs $10.

      Plan 2) is 2 lines (minimum) for $100, this includes 10GB of High Speed Data (Per Line) as well as unlimited talk and text. Each additional line costs $20.

      Plan 3) is 4 (minimum) Lines for $100, this includes 2.5GB of High Speed Data (Per Line) as well as unlimited talk and text.Each additional line costs $10.

      Plan 1 and 3 are customizable, you can have Line 1 with unlimited data and Line 2 with the base data plan. Plan 2 replaces the 2 Lines for $100 – Unlimited Everything (including data) which wasn’t customizable, each line was required to have unlimited data (the same concept applies here). Plan 2 is the only “Plan without Boarders” Family plan (this can be added to non-qualifying family plan for $10 more per account)

  • conservative_motorcyclist

    so bummed. when I try to change the voice portion of my plan online, it is trying to remove my $20 unlimited data :/

    • Andy

      You need to call customer service instead of doing it online

  • Good Deal for the Price

    Under the classic plan, I am paying a total of $160.00 plus taxes for five lines that include unlimited talk, text, and data on each line. At times, the T-mobile representatives try to get me to switch to a new promotion to lower the price (smile) . However, it would not be advantageous for me, especially with the unlimited data feature. But I do think this Current promotion is a good deal for the price…

    • lol

      $115 5 lines unlimited everything. classic plan as well. lol

      • Good Deal for the Price

        WOW. ..that is an Exceptional deal, Congratulations!

  • anthon

    We want plans with no taxes everything included.

    • Zack

      That would be amazing!!! :) Can T-Mobile do this?

    • Walter White

      Chicago’s taxes are the highest in the nation. In Chicago it’s tax, tax, tax…

      • Mike

        That’s why I moved out of Crook County.

    • Cruise Guy

      That will never happen. Then you won’t be able to compare apples to apples, or Tmo to Att etc.

  • kekel1123

    I just called Customer Care regarding the new family plan 4x$120 but I will be loosing my Corporate Discount.No thanks!

    • T-moFan

      Yep same here. The new 10GB Per Line Plans you cant add any discounts like corporate ones. Which absolutely sucks…

    • Peer Ghent

      Same here, this plan is a no go for me. I rather pay $10 to add it to my current account. If I went to the new plan, I would be loosing my government employee discount, $10 Stateside Callimg for the whole account, unlimited LTE and my @Home line for $10.

      • Visvism

        Not worth it for all those features you mentioned.

      • Ruskastud

        If I can’t keep my government discount, I’m out…….

        • Gseltj

          I got to keep it. I just got my bill and they applied the government discount to the 4 for $120 plan.

    • Philip

      Luckly I read this. Right now I am paying $132 with tax on 4 lines with the govt 10% discount. One of them is unlimited everything. This deal is not worth it.

    • Jay

      It would be nice if they told you there were no Corporate Discounts allowed. I switched to it and found out when my bill came. I’ve searched and can’t find it written anywhere. Plan description, FAQ, Fact Sheet, Small print on new Service Agreement, nothing.

      Now I’m trying to get my old plan back…

      Any idea where you can find out what plan ARE eligible for a Corporate Discount?

  • bradastan

    well I just called and they didn’t know anything, sounded like some guy answered from his home, put me on hold several times. I eventually hung up, seems sketchy.

    • Ray

      When I talked to Melody from customer care I had to explain to HER how the 10GB family plan works and the 4th line is free until Labor Day. She didn’t know this!

  • Eshwar Vanaparthi

    Dont want to loose my 10$ family shared internation calling feature. I have to pass this offer

    • Vishal

      Are you sure you’d lose it?

      • Eshwar Vanaparthi

        Yes… Tried online as well with customer rep.

    • Cruise Guy

      You don’t lose it. The old feature will easily move to the new plan. I have spoken with three different reps. You can keep it.

  • Alex Pilaia

    Why does this “amped” promotion have an expiration date? I think Tmobile new this would not be as big as a hit as others…

    • Mike

      That is not the case, they put a limit on it to sign up as many as possible and as quickly as possible.

  • Walter White

    What does the new Sprint CEO have to say about the new T-Mobile promo pricing? is it still B.S.?

  • Walter White

    Rather pay the extra $10/month for all 4 of my lines to be able to call MX. We spend $40/month on calling cards.

  • Manny

    Anyone have an idea on this for 5 lines… What would be the charge for a 5th line?

    • Genecio

      $140 + taxes and fees for all 5 lines. Each line beyond the first 2 are $20 each/month if you do this before Labor Day the breakdown will be as follows: Line 1 and Line 2 $100 +Line 3 at $20, + Line 4 Free, + Line 5 at $20 = $140 not including taxes, fees, or any eligible discounts.

      • Charmed79

        How long is the 4th line free for??

        • Genecio

          The 4th line is free indefinitely or until the UN-Carrier decides to go back on their word.

      • Ricky

        so if I have 6 lines, it’s gonna be $160+ tax, fees,…

        • Genecio

          Exactly, the 4th line remains free for as long as you keep it and get it BEFORE Labor Day.

  • OZ

    Switched to this plan. Keeping my $5 stateside international call feature. Data Stash makes this plan a fantastic deal.

    • Ray

      How? I was informed by customer care that I could not keep the $5 stateside service because it was a promo deal. So I now I have to pay $10 for one line.

      • OZ

        You might want to discuss with a member of customer loyalty to get this.

  • ajsaloon

    I currently have 7 lines in the 2.5gb plan for 150. Went online to see how much is be to switch to the new 10gb plan… It calculates it out to 120. I’m blown away.

    • ajsaloon

      Well, there was a glitch in the system. Didn’t calculate until after I printed my confirmation.

      • Visvism

        Yeah that was a glitch. It’s $180 for 7 lines.

  • bradastan

    I’m wondering if the free 4th line will ever become “not free” and my bill just starts going up $20?

    • Visvism

      Not on it’s own. You would have to change plans to lose the $20 fourth line credit.

  • SAM SHAH

    I called customer service and if I move to this new plan, I loose my corporate discount. I am going to pass this offer.

    • Philip

      It seems like this a no good deal for me. I loose my 10% govt discount too.

      • Visvism

        All newer plans will do away with corporate discounts. T-Mobile will eventually have everyone off of them.

        End goal: no “contracts” or discounts

        • Deihmos

          I am not giving up my 15% discount for anything.

      • Gseltj

        I just got my bill and they applied my government discount on the 4 for $120 plan.

    • Robert Seaborne

      The word you are looking for is lose. Loose means not tight.

  • mb624

    If I were to switch to this plan can I have only 2 lines with the 10gb of data, with the other 2 lines on my plan having the usual 1gb (or is it 2.5)? If so, would it still be $120 a month or would there be a discount since it’s only 2 lines with the 10gb of data?

  • janet.tovar

    ==

  • Julie Johnson

    I think it would be so much more exciting if we had Lte,since it’s why it would be worth the money and it’s what makes them the beat. So why do I still have to pay the same rate,best coverage lies. I’ve been with T-Mobile for almost 7years and the crazy crap I have to deal with it gets worse every year

  • randian

    Is this plan postpaid service (pay taxes but get perks like conditional call waiting)?

  • Philip

    I dont want to change to this plan, but it say I can add $10 to call in North America. 1. Is that for all the phone on your family plan? 2. Can I sign up for the $10 plan and then cancel later?

  • Gseltj

    Hey everyone, I joined this plan when I came out and I just got my bill and noticed that they applied my government employee discount. I called customer service to confirm that I will keep it and they told me yes. I guess if you have the 2 lines for $100 unlimited you are not allowed any extra discounts but on this particular plan you get to keep it!

  • Dede

    I have been a customer for about 15 years. They have always worked well with me on the loyalty of me staying with them…but no more. We went to their family plan, I was told nothing would change for me…but it did. My loyalty plan went out the window.
    Be sure to ASK QUESTIONS when you sign up.