HTC Gets Snarky On Twitter As President Calls Samsung’s Presentation “Embarrassing”

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There’s going to be plenty of healthy debate in the coming weeks as to which of the two Android manufacturers has the better flagship device. Is it Samsung with the newly introduced Galaxy S 4 or HTC with the aluminum based HTC One? Well, for its part HTC isn’t wasting a moment of opportunity to take mud-slinging shots as its largest competitor as a tweet during the middle of Samsung’s Broadway style musical intro of the S 4 asked just “how off-Broadway is this production?

On its own that would be pretty comical, but the comments from HTC President Jason MacKenzie really take the snark to another level. “I went from laughing to actually feeling embarrassed at some of the acting,” MacKenzie told CNET. MacKenzie wasn’t finished either, as he continued to talk up the HTC One and its overall position against the Galaxy S 4. “Watching the presentation, it looks like they invested a lot in marketing instead of innovation,” he said.

Samsung telecommunication director of marketing for America smartly refused to take the bait, instead choosing to let his company’s device do the talking. “Everybody is entitled to their opinion.”


HTC took it to yet another notch with the release of a statement attributed to Chief Marketing Officer Ben Ho calling the Galaxy S 4 “more of the same.

“With a continuation of a plastic body, and a larger screen being the most obvious physical change, Samsung’s new Galaxy pales in comparison to the all-aluminum unibody HTC One.

“This is more of the same. HTC remains the best option for those people looking for the best technology wrapped in premium design. Our customers want something different from the mainstream, who appear to be the target for the Galaxy.

“Our customers want original cutting-edge technology, mouth-watering design and a premium feel from their mobiles, which is why we created the HTC One.”

I guess HTC is done taking table scraps from Samsung in the Android pie, especially as the company trolled the Samsung line at Radio City last night with hot chocolate, snacks and bottled water all branded with “HTC One.” Clever HTC, very clever.

Engadget, CNET, @HTC

2013-03-14 18.10.18


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  • NYCTheBronx

    HTC is clever putting a non removable battery on the HTC One. Now people will be lining up to buy one and then after a year or two they’re going to buy a new phone due to the battery deteriorating. I don’t care if the phone is metal or slim. All I care is that I can use it for at least half a decade before it dies on me. In this fight Samsung>HTC. Be smart guys and buy a phone with a removable battery. Just my opinion.

    • sorry

      That’s more common sense than opinion. Sadly it’s not so common.

    • Why? Maybe I’m a perfect consumer Or just Like being at the cutting edge of tech…or need a phone to keep up. But I’ve yet to hold onto a phone longer than a year. 5years Is a bit excessive. What phone are you still using that’s lasted past a few batteries? Oh and I’ve given my last 4 phones to family and all are ticking without battery problems.

      • tomarone

        My batteries have lasted years. I’ve never seen a worn out battery. HTC OneS and motorola cliq 5 years, still running on original battery.

        • nyuhsuk

          I think it’s definitely a device to device phenomenon. My Amaze’s battery wittled down after a year and a new one definitely gave me near double the running time. However, I have a few HD2’s that are still running on their original batteries and don’t seem to have much longevity degradation.
          At the end of the day though, it is nice that I was able to swap a new battery I purchased from the comfort of my home at a time of my choosing instead of having to send in my phone to have it replaced and wait days/weeks for it to return. That right there is a potential deal breaker that you can’t argue with.

        • tomarone

          I don’t want to argue and I am tending to switching from my HTC to a Sam. My question is the cover on the Sam phones is delicate compared to the HTC. My One-S is tough, I can drop it and the cover won’t fall off and the battery fall out. Whether this is important though is another issue. The New One I assume will be even tougher. Don’t matter? If the Sam is nice enough and tough enough it will be Sam’s ahead in my view. (I don’t like external cases personally)

        • The back cover does come off a bit if you drop a Galaxy. I have a S2 and S3 and I dropped my S3 getting out of a taxi last week. The back cover hasn’t been the same since. Can’t wait to get rid of it.

      • NYCTheBronx

        Still got my G1 but I don’t use it anymore. I have a MyTouch 4G Slide and had it and still use it today since it came out for T-Mobile. About a year or a year an a half later, my battery started dying drastically. So I bought an extended battery on Amazon. I feel bad for those who bought a non removable battery phone and have to get it fix in a couple of years of their internal battery as the issue. when you can easily swap batteries on a removable battery phone.

    • S. Ali

      Been using cell phones for 10 years, never removed a battery. #nextbigflop

  • Sean

    HTC will get my money over the S4. depending on battery life from the One. Time will tell after a few full length reviews come out that are more telling about its battery life. Right now with my S3, on a really demanding day, i tear through two full charged batteries.

    • WW

      That removable battery is probably a nice feature.

  • thank

    What ever happened to being “quietly brilliant”? They were doing so well in the HTC HD2 days. Now they’re “BEATS BY DR PEPPER BUZZWORD BEATS BUZZWORD ULTRAPIXEL BEATS SENSE BEATS BEATS LOOK AT US”. I just don’t see how they can recover.

    • Jason

      You must not have owned an HD2. That phone was plagued with software issues.

      • thank

        Ironically that was the strong point of the HD2. That phone was cherished by the developer community more than any other and now has a reputation of being the phone that ran every software you can think of. I flashed WP7 on mine and it was one of the most stable things I’ve ever played with. I flashed Android ICS onto my mother’s and it works as a daily driver just as well as any other flagship between 2010-2011. It was truly “quietly brilliant”.

        • HeLLkAt31

          I second that. The HD2 would run Android and even beyond its stock Windows 6. Now thats a classic phone i will always remember =)

  • yea i was at the event yesterday and it was funny to see HTC out there marketing their phone. They had Hands-On demos and all. I cant be mad at them though. People were definitely checking it out

    • ant

      they need some commericals and be in music videos like nokia used to do lol hire wayne n future to talk on the one s

      • Quan Bui

        Future? LOL this guy… They need celebrities that appeals to everyone… so that means Wayne for urban folks, Taylor Swift for the females, Glenn from Walking Dead for us Asians, and Kobe… cuz… he’s Kobe.

        • ant

          lmao its a joke but future rap bout phones (if you know what freebandz off apple phones mean then u get what i meant) but kobe not promoting no phone he dont even do his commericals nomore but durant or westbrook maybe lebron with samsung and actors can but thats not going to influence anyone only rappers n sports players really make the new phone thing look cool

  • cybersedan

    HTC is doing what anyone trying to make a comeback will do, not much different than what Samsung does/did to Apple.

    The smartphone war is heating up, they’ll keep fighting it out with words and improved products, and in the end consumers benefit with the end result being better products and prices.

    The S4 is my current front runner for now!

  • km3k

    Reading the tweet out of context makes it seem like he thinks the HTC One is a flop.

  • sushimane

    i agree the samsung unpack presentation was a little one down and a waste of time to watch the s4 is a good phone but that guy in the suit was annoying

  • tomarone

    My gripe is that the HTC wants to be an entertainment device only. Catering to peoples needs to take pictures, videos and social networks. nothing wrong with that, except, some of the Samsung devices seem to be actual work horses. And HTC does not upgrade their OS. They don’t seem real to me, as if the case is the whole thing.

    • Deadeye37

      I agree. HTC wins with some of its entertainment features and the awesome design. However, the software doesn’t compare to all the cool things that the SGS III & 4 does.

      I love using the Tectiles with my SGS III. Does HTC even have NFC? There are a lot of other cool tricks that Samsung implemented with the SGS III & 4 that utilizes the camera, NFC, and Wifi Direct in innovative & unique ways. What cool software innovation did the HTC One do? They made their BlinkFeed and……any thing else?

      Don’t get me wrong. The HTC phone body is sexy and the front speakers is an incredibly smart idea. But that’s like the hot chick who drives a sports car who has an IQ of mayonnaise. Ideally, I’d take the HTC phone body and put the SGS 4 software inside.

      • tomarone

        There are no hot chicks with IQ of mayonnaise don’t drive sports cars. Those are all hot guys with IQ of ketchup that drive BMW or Hummers or maybe some sports cars.

      • ant

        yea htc do well the new evo my boss have do(she needed me to set up her email n wifi and i seen nfc checked)

      • Jeff Martinez

        I’d be surprised if the HTC One didn’t have NFC, my Amaze 4G had it.

  • JTrip

    I tuned into the Samsung presentation a little bit after it had started. I could watch for about 10 minutes and had to stop watching. It was so cornball and annoying. I figured I could just read about all the great features the next day. Just the little bit that I saw feature wise was impressive. Trying to catch up on everything now.

  • Samsucks

    HTC needs to get a bit more aggressive if they want to survive. They clearly have the superior phone this time around. Hell, the One X is superior to the S3! The problem was the single carrier strategy. They are doing it right this time. I’ll be picking up two ONEs on release day.

    • h_f_m

      I don’t know how anyone can say “clearly” when they haven’t even laid hands on the devices. Clearly you have no idea what you’re talking about. You might be correct, but you don’t know.

      • h_f_m

        Unless you were there and had a chance to hold both devices? If so I recant my statement and apologize.

    • NYCTheBronx

      Both HTC One X and Samsung Galaxy S I are dual cores. Sadly, my HTC One X reboots on me all the time and loads and takes forever. You meant to say HTC One X+ is superior then Samsung Galaxy S III. :) But HTC rarely updates their phone and in many cases, never. Still no update for my G1, MyTouch 3G slide and MyTouch 4G Slide. While Samsung has released Jelly Bean update on the Samsung Galaxy S II and Samsung Galaxy Note. HTC is barely trying to release Jelly Bean update on the HTC One X and HTC One S.

  • Rocco Gallo

    HTC has 3 strikes against them in my opinion, 1) no removable battery, and with most of the buyers rooting the phone it help to remove the batter if your phone is stuck, 2) no SD card, i understand it has allot of internal storage but if you phone crashes then? and the lack of android update is a killer, the old htc one is still on ICS.

    • Spanky

      Let’s not forget that the HTC One will come with Android 4.1.2. That says it all.

      • bleeew

        My Droid DNA has 4.1.2, but now its outdated :(

      • Jeff Martinez

        Couldn’t agree more…HTC should know if your going to talk smack make sure your phone isn’t already outdated in one of the most important aspects of smart phones…Software. Take note HTC.

      • Richard Yarrell

        That Twitter battle went well into the wee hours of Friday morning. It was a great battle pretty sure Mr. Mackenzie won’t be tweeting any more of that Garbage. He was good sending tweets but lousy responding to direct tweets and direct messages. Bottom line here it’s pretty sad when manufacturershave to stoop so low just for aattention. Htc has turned into a Samsung hater which is expected. Truthfully who care the GOLD STANDARD of android today is the Galaxy Note 2. It’s the device everyone is chasing and tripping over themselves to catch up too and copy as well. The Galaxy S4 is a wonderful device with industry leading software development and implementation of features. It will be a great selling device something that Htc won’t be able to duplicate. I like the build quality of the Htc One it’s a wonderfully constructed handset and blinkfeed was a great idea. But if you want to make a fashion statement you purchase the Htc One and iphone 5. If you want to experience industry leading software implementations and great users experience the you purchase the Galaxy S4 or Galaxy Note 2. If Htc was all about the real deal their handset would have 4.2.2 the leading version not 4.1.2 (2) versions behind.

    • Impatient Waiter

      that’s my gripe with the HTC One. I think it looks cooler than the GS4, but as you mentioned, that’s exactly why I would never get one.

    • ant

      how you know it wont update quickly it havent even came out offically yet

    • You’re a moron

      Most are not rooting their phone.

    • PiCASSiMO

      I’ve had an issue with that until I got the Nexus 4 (16GB) and really I don’t care to have a 2nd battery laying around. Yes, it would be nice to have more than 16GB of space, but I’m realizing that with Spotify and Netflix, that’s not an issue to cram movies and music on my phone. When I load up with pictures and videos taken by the camera, I off load it with the 25GB Box offers for free.

      With the HTC One, 32GB will probably more than enough to last the 2-3 years I’ll keep the phone. Perhaps I’ll even pay another $100 to push into the 64GB and be done with it. I can’t imagine myself loading up with more than 64GB of space.

      The only thing I’m still not sold on is the HTC 4MP camera… but with more reviews and samples, that might change.

      • Jeff Martinez

        I was in a similar situation before buying my Nexus 4. I had a Amaze 4G with a 32GB SD card. Most of which my storage was holding picture and videos. Memory was important to say the least. But with the N4 I opted to use my Google + for instantly uploading pics/videos. I just delete them off my phone after they upload automatically and I have plenty of physical memory left over. Now I don’t have to worry so much about losing my phone and all my moments caught in time.

  • well i think Gs4 is feature overkill. if you forget about build quality , in which samsung always sucked, and look for sense vs new touchwiz? builtin GPS ? smart pause etc? they are cool new features. what htc presented as new? ultra pixel isnt even as good as htc one s which i am using from last year.
    dont get me wrong, i am no samsung fanboy. I really like build quality of htc but that 4 up camera in htc one is not even as good as one x’s.

  • Galaxy S3

    Maybe HTC should focus more in the quality of their products instead of criticizing the competition. I had HTC phone before and they lack in quality in their software and hardware which make me change to a Galaxy S3 and that was not one but 10 steps up.

  • h_f_m

    Hahahahaha…. “I guess HTC is done taking table scraps from Samsung in the Android pie, especially as the company trolled the Samsung line at Radio City last night with hot chocolate, snacks and bottled water all branded with “HTC One.” Clever HTC, very clever.”

    If HTC could actually draw a crowd to an event on their own they wouldn’t have to troll Samsung’s event. This is pretty weak..

    • Mark

      Am I the only one who gets the joke that it’s a riff on Samsung’s commercials where they’re ridiculing the folks in the Apple store line? Well done HTC! (Now give me JB already! :)

  • M42

    Is that girl in the photo carrying the new bigass SG4?

  • g2a5b0e

    He can laugh all he wants to. The presentation was definitely comical, but Samsung will be the one laughing all the way to the bank when the S4 has sold 75 million at the end of the year & The One has only sold 15.

    • Dion Mac

      He simply made a point. The presentation sucked ahss bootiee water and is an over sized feature rich phone. By the end of the presentation, I couldn’t even remember the two features I liked. I remember one now which is the infrared IDK WTF they took this feature out of phones. I loved using my MDA to control my TV. Yuh, it had to be an exact spot, but you’d think over time they would get better at it.

      That smart eye view crap. So I take my eye off the screen and now you pausing my ish??? How about if I put my phone down… makes more sense, I would just get frustrated at it pausing every time I look tf away. And the smart wave your hand across the screen to answer the phone feature… Why not have your phone on your nightstand while your ironing your clothes. The phone rings, it tells you whos calling and you say “Aye Sammy, put Charlie Shen on line 1 with speaker phone please… because ahhh, my hands are kinda tied up. But as always, don’t mind me… I broke a show lace this morning.

      • Guest

        P.S. I’m expecting a ish load of thumbs down b/c apparently the samsung cult has becomee just as over zealous as the apple fanboys.

        • 21stNow

          As if the HTC cult isn’t a zealous bunch. They’re the reason that I don’t spend as much time on Android Central.

      • lol true but still .. hard to argue that sale wise the S4 will kill the One .. i’m an HTC guy .. i’m going to change that for the first time though because what i saw from the One didn’t impress me at all besides the design. their features weren’t at all impressive.

        • Dion Mac

          I was an HTC guy myself going from MDA to T-Mo Wing to G1 to Mytouch Slide(crap) to G2 to the Sensation. The Amaze seemed to be a nice phone but my sensation was still pretty new. Since then I haven’t really cared for anything they’ve put out except the one(I hate the name btw). And since I’ve had the Nexus 4, I’ve become a fan of the Nexus line and LG. Yes, no expandable storage is a lil annoying, but they are benefits to the cloud. I cant tell you how many times(3) I’ve lost priceless pictures due to my memory card crashing on me! So I’ve been forced to go to the sky(cloud), backing up all my stuff.

          As far as Samsung… Sex sales and the Nexus 4 and the HTC One are very sexy. Samsungs bigass phone are like minivans… i just can’t! And let me state this now… THIS IS ONLY DION’S OPINION AND THE LOSER BROKE A SHOELACE THIS MORNING.

        • Justin Jett

          I have the S3 and looked at the Nexus. As far as screen sizes, mine is 4.8 and yours is 4.7 so comparable sizes you’d be driving a minivan too. The only reason i’d want a Nexus is that it is vanilla Andriod and you’re guaranteed to get updates versus having to wait on the provider to tweak their bloatware then send it out.

        • Dion Mac

          I’m thinking I’m thinking… Nope, wasnt talking about the s3. this screen is almost too much (4.7) screen. I reach my thumb across but part of my hand will touch the opposite side of the screen and becomes annoying. I’m a one handed operations type of guy. I don’t even like pitch to zoom because I have to use two hands. That being said anything over 4.7 inches, in my opinion, is to big. So i don’t have a mini van, I have an suv. A stylish one at that.

          Sent using my Nexus 4

      • g2a5b0e

        Oversized? I hope you don’t mean physically because the S4 is smaller than the S3 & The One, both of which you know have smaller screens.

        • Guest

          Screen. 5 inches verses 4.8

        • superg05

          4.8″ 1280 pixels wide by 720 pixels tall


          5″ 1920 pixels wide by 1080 pixels tall

          you can downplay it all you like but there are major differences in the screen and its density

        • Justin Jett

          The S4 will actually be bigger than the S3 by .2 inches. Which will make it the same size as the Note I

        • g2a5b0e

          Wrong. The S4’s screen size is bigger than the S3’s by .2 inches. The actual size of the S4 is smaller than the S3. The OG Note has a 5.3″ screen & is significantly larger than both.

        • John

          I think g2a5boe is referring to the thickness of the phone not screen size. The thickness of phone is being reduced making the phone thinner from top to bottom. However, the screen is being lengthened by .2 inches.

        • abc

          The overall phone size is less on S4 compared to S3
          even though the screen size is more in S4

      • abc

        Just turn off the feature if you dont like it. Its not forcing you.

        • Dion Mac

          JUST TURN THE FEATURE OFF??? Look 123, abc… Samsung has the same phone as last year + .2 inch difference in screen. They are trying to sell the features of the phone… the software.

          Thats like somebody buying a hybrid car for the gas mileage, knowing that the electric or hydrogen or whatever it is part of the car is not powerful enough for their liking, so they just keep the car in gas powered mode. You just wasted your investment.

          just turn the feature off (<_< ) Why I outta…….

        • superg05

          no where near the same your getting them confused with apple how the 4s only added siri to the 4 to differentiate calling it the 4S, Samsung added a 8/quad-core processor s4a processor a screen you don’t have to touch to swipe or navigate a touch unnecessary touchscreen, better camera’s infrared sensors and gestures also can use you phone as TV remote

          huge software feature set added
          1080p screen for starters next

        • Dion Mac

          Dear Jeremy, poor little Jeremy.

          Difference in iphone 4 and 4s Hardware Wise:
          A4(1ghz) processor to a5 dual core, 5mp to 8mp, 32mb to 64mb, 720p to 1080p video, and up’d the battery from 1420 mAh to 1432.

          So in theory, they did EXACTLY as apple. I present to you the World acclaim Terrible Broadway show presentation yet still bossy Samsung Galaxy S IIIS…

          SN: Google is going to drop kick Samsung in the neck for using them and dropping them for this Tizen crap. The Nexus 5 is going to destroy anything moving!

  • thepanttherlady

    HTC needs to get their own house in order before they start with the smack talk.

  • kev2684

    calling the Galaxy S IV a flop when you can’t even match the sales of the first Galaxy S. lol

  • 21stNow

    More plastic-bring it on! As long as Samsung doesn’t switch to mud, vomit or excrement, I don’t care what they do to the exterior. Samsung tends to focus on making the entire phone work well together. Are they perfect? No. However, I haven’t had a Samsung phone that killed the battery due to bad processors or software in 5-10 hours. I have had two HTC phones that did that.

    Samsung learned from whatever error caused the bad GPS performance in the Vibrant and corrected it in future models. HTC released the Desire, the Sensation and some of the early Amaze models with Wi-fi antenna problems. That is inexcusable.

    It seems that while HTC asked people how they use their phones, Samsung watched how people use their phones. This leads to a different feature set where Samsung is trying to make using a phone as effortless as possible. Kind of the same thing that Windows Phone aimed for, but missed. Watching versus asking is important. If you ask me, I come to a full and complete stop at stop signs. If you sit in my passenger seat and watch me, you would probably call me a liar.

    Reality is what is important, and it seems that Samsung understands that better than HTC.

    • NYC Tech3008

      Well said! I agree and being a current HTC owner, MT4G, I’m on my 2nd replacement phone. It would have been 3 replacements if my 1 yr manufacturers warranty didn’t expire. Now we, my wife and I, will be upgrading. I could not have said it better myself on our frustration with HTC. Instead of worrying about unibody design, eliminating removable batteries and Micro SD cards slots, try to improve the other aspects of your phones. I can’t tell you how many times I want to throw my phone in the Hudson River

      • superg05

        htc phone have alot of quality control issues my sensation had light bleeding and then the volume rocker fell out , it and replacements tended to over heat alot might be the aluminum they need to put some micro fans in there or something random shut offs freezing i loved htc but im done…………………. Samsung all the way now love my Note 2 upgraded from amaze 4g will never touch htc phones again unless i’m teaching someone a feature that’s it

  • Deadeye37

    My favorite thing about that tweet is the succession of the hash tags

    #TheNextBigFlop #HTCOne

    Its like foreboding. HTC is saying that the HTC One will be the next big flop. It would be sad if that actually came true. The HTC One is a sexy phone. Too bad they couldn’t get their software to be cool like SGS 4.

    • superg05

      they never make use of there hardware either no software support from them to use it gotta try and sometimes fail to find an application compatible with htc phones cause they screwed withe the software so deeply they broke Android app compatibility might as well be its own fork of android

  • Gdwhite85

    No matter witch is better. Samsung is the better marketing engine, sorry to say what’s in front of your face….sales! I’m a Samsung fan and have been from the get go, it will go Samsung, Apple and then HTC on the hardware side. It’s just a fact….

  • and yet it won’t matter when the sales reports come in because the Galaxy S4 will trump the HTC One over and over and over and over again …
    i don’t see much innnovation in the One either .. the Feaux Live Tiles RSS home screen … the design is tops but there’s little to brag about HTC when it comes to features and no Twitter insult will stop the S4 from trumping the One in sales.

  • The unveiling was the worst and very ignorant, no doubt! Very embarrassed to be a Galaxy owner. -_-

  • HeLLkAt31

    Let HTC talk some smack. So what if they say the show sucked then throw their phone in for some advertisement. I like that and it keeps competition going. Just like Tmo talking smack on At&T. Its all in good fun until someone shoots their eye out =/ HTC One is the one for me.

  • Dakota

    I don’t have a dog in this fight, but it HTC wants to compete again Samsung, they need to up their marketing budget. Many of you forget that you are not the typical can set user. Most people aren’t rooting the phone or using a lot of these fancy features.

  • Shawndh

    The way these companies are taking cheap shots at each other is just embarrassing. What happened to carrying yourself with dignity? I like HTC but they have no business talking with their lousy sales as of lately.

  • Impatient Waiter

    Someone can’t handle the competition. Samsung dominates HTC

  • Nick Gonzalez

    Way to go HTC!

  • Kahlayoh

    Hahaha….HTC?? Really!! Samsung all day for me!!!

  • daniel212

    Well i always bought samsung phones but this time I was dissapointed with the design.. It looks the same as the s3, I will be getting an htc one developer edition lol.

  • fixxmyhead

    u can see the desperation in HTC

  • John

    I prefer my Iphone 5 over these 2 phones.

  • Very sad, HTC needs to push their phone on it’s own merits. The SGS4 has the HTC One beat in every department. The SGS4 just scored over, get this people over 26,000 on it’s benchmark test with unfinished software. That is the highest score ever by a smartphone. That isn’t everything but that just begins to tell you just how fast this beast is. The SGS4 has a bigger screen(5 inch), larger removable battery(2600 MHz), int. memory choices 16, 32 and 64mb, the best camera and the latest Android OS 4.2.2 all in a smaller footprint than the SGS3. The best part of the SGS4 is the new innovations, innovations and yes people more innovations. The added features they have brought to the Android OS makes this phone a work horse, a must have device in the work place. If HTC wants to play hardball with the SGS4 they will loose. The HTC is a great phone, the best part of the phone is the design and aluminum body, my issue is will the aluminum body foul up the radio signals??? Put the two devices side by side the HTC one with it’s 4.7 inch screen is just about the same size as the new SGS4, so the added screen size in the SGS4 is a bonus that doesn’t really add any size or bulk to the phone. To me the SGS4 is without a doubt the best smartphone made today. I am not the only one who feels this way, most of the writers and editors feel this way. This is the best time to be a Android customer, we have the best choices this year, have fun people, it’s hard to pick a bad phone.
    Thank you Samsung and HTC
    Thank You T-Mobile

    • tonkotsu

      2600mAH…. not mhz………

  • rob

    Lol I like HTC’s new attitude, about time they grew some balls. I’m sure they are happy they can 1UP the S4 in a couple months when they announce the One+. They said they would only announce one flagship but they mean it in a at-a-time kind of way. They don’t want to launch a One and a One S again to “confuse” customers. We all know they can’t help but make more than One phone..

    • tonkotsu

      so basically htc is a company that cannot be trusted because they lie?

  • souggie

    Sorry. Htc sold out when they took that fake ass deal from apple to use patents that they didn’t even create. So htc is already a few steps back. And they have no sd card slot, and are behind software wise as well. So aluminum or not, their products need to talk more than their mouths do

    • JayInCA

      Do your research on the whole patent agreement between HTC and Apple. If you dig enough, you’ll find that HTC had a valid dispute with Apple using their LTE technology patents without due compensation. Essentially, the judge that previewed the case said Apple’s butt was over a barrel and HTC had the potential to win an injunction barring the sales of iPhone5’s in the U.S.

      Now put together the pieces and realize that HTC and Apple sharing technology and not suing each other for the next ten years may lead to some nice advances for both companies and lead others in the industry to innovate more.

      HTC didn’t sell out, they are pushing hard to reinvent themselves and provide a superior product in the marketplace. Clearly the HTC One is a fine product, and in my opinion a better quality handset than the S4 and current iPhone5.

  • Enzowned

    No removable battery: Get over it, this is no longer the norm (This doesn’t invalidate your point, just means the One isn’t for you or your niche whatsoever, for most people, this should be a non-issue). No sd card: Same. 3: Android updates, well if you really care, get a Nexus device, the update difference here is trivial. Furthermore, is Samsung that much better with updates? Again, if you really care, get a Nexus.

    • jon

      Niche? This isn’t qwerty versus on screen keyboard…a removable battery is a must for power users. And I wouldn’t call them niche. I own a nexus 4. Guess where it is? In its box in my nightstand. The reason? My galaxy note 2 is a better phone for several reasons. But the main one is the removable battery. I have a charging dock and a second battery. I change it daily. No worries about conserving battery. I can use my device AS intended. Its my music player, gps, email machine, note taking device, web browsing powerhouse, netflix to keep the little one occupied…oh and a phone. All without giving a second thought to the battery.

      • Enzowned

        Yes, Niche, just as you said a “power user” which is a group that is usually a niche when you consider the bigger picture, in regards to any market really. I consider myself a part of that niche, but it’s pretty clear where the market stands, and its direction. In the end, it’s just a line in the sand. The same way these people carry an extra battery, they can carry an external one.

        • thepanttherlady

          Or not purchase the phone.

          That’s the direction I have already taken with every manufacturer that eliminates these options.

        • jon

          Let me rephrase that then…If you’d like to experience a device the way that it is intended, a removable battery is a must. If you’d like to continue to shut down processes, wifi, bluetooth, lte, and be tethered to a wall or to an external battery; then by all means get any phone with a non removable battery. I, for one, will use my device the way it was intended to be used. When battery technology catches up with that standard, I would definitely stop being part of this “niche”….

        • Jasontx

          I’m not sure “power user” is the correct term you’re looking for. I think it’s better described “user of more power” haha jkjk. I get your point about the removable battery The biggest drawback to the unibody design imo is lack of sd card. They tend to not include SDs with the unibody. If they give us a slot for a sim, can’t they give us a slot for the SD?

    • tonkotsu

      the issue isn’t so much that its non removable, its that it’s too dam small to be useful.

      the good thing about samsung is that on any of their phones, you can easily slap a replacement or double sized battery in IF YOU NEED to. HTC doesn’t allow for that, you’re stuck with the small battery until your phone dies.

  • John
    The SG 4 weighs less than the SG 3. However, the IPhone 5 is lighter than both of them.

    • tonkotsu

      well the iphone also has a 4″ screen vs a 4.99″ screen…..

      you basically just said “this new honda accord weighs less than the old one, but the fiat 500 is lighter than both of them”

      you see how silly you look?

      • John

        No I don’t look silly. I know that the S3 and S4 have bigger screens than the Iphone 5. I was just stating that the IPhone 5 was the lightest of the 3 smartphones. I was simply talking weight above anything else.

        • TechHog

          You still look silly. Why would you even need to mention that a 4-inch phone weighs less than a 5-inch phone? Why bring up iPhone at all?

        • John

          Apple released the IPhone 4 & 4S with screens .5 inches smaller in screen size than the IPhone 5 yet still weighed more than the 4 inch (screen size) iPhone 5. Apple is an innovator and I can bet that if they came out with a 5 inch IPhone it would be lighter than how much the current S4 weighs. That’s why I brought it up so get off my back and stop creating new usernames.

        • John

          The mods need to look at your posts, as they are rude and out of line. I haven’t been trolling. I just stated my opinion that Apple made a lighter phone. Nothing wrong with that. If you prefer the S4 than you can post that in a respectful way. There’s alot pointless comments here, but I don’t see others attacking others for it. You being the exception. Calling a person a fanboy or fangirl is derogatory and rude. This is my one and only profile for tmonews.

        • John

          I brought it up about Apple because the article I posted a link to compares. The S3 to the S4 TO the IPhone 5.
          So stop your harassment. I have reported all your posts to me. Have a good day.

  • jon

    Sorry htc, I WAS one of your biggest supporters. I loved my G1, G2, and Amaze. You went off the road with the non-removable battery and no sd slot. I won’t argue build feel. I wouldn’t use the word quality though. It really is debatable if the uni body translates into “quality”. Your phones feel like they are built like a tank. But that build is sacrificed in a heartbeat for a removable battery and expandable storage.

  • dattie

    True.after the initial lack of software updates on the s1 my s2 had 4 updates and my s3 has had 2 already

  • tonkotsu

    LOL @ HTC

    let me know when I can jam a microsd card in their phones so I can get 64gb of additional storage for $30, instead of paying $100 for an additional 32gb (the move from 32 to 64gb)

    No wonder htc is in the gutter, they spend their time criticizing other companies and not focusing on the actual wants and needs of their competitors

    hey htc, 2300mah batteries for 1080 screens are like 1800mah batteries for 720 screens! welcome to last year!

  • Mr Tibs

    htc doesn’t have a chance

  • superg05

    htc can say all it wants there phone it still wont out sell the phone there dissing

  • bleeew


  • AndroidProfit

    WOW while that Samsung presentation may have sucked, way to cut down all the talented actors just to take a swipe at Samsung. HTC is a sinking turd!

  • stone.. glass house.. shattered glass. htc better watch it

  • I think I would actually go to a sense device sans touchwiz this time around

  • TechHog

    Sorry HTC, but I’m not buying your phones until you improve battery life.

  • Azazellov

    Once again HTC loses. I really like the way the HTC One is designed and looks but it’s inferior in almost every other way to the S4.

    1) The S4 has removable storage, the HTC One doesn’t.

    2) The S4 has a bigger screen, 5″ vs 4.7″

    3) the S4 has a larger battery, 2600 mAh vs 2300 mAh and it’s removable for the S4.

    4) Same processor (Snapdragon 600) but the S4 runs at 1.9 Ghz vs 1.7 Ghz

    5) Not sure which camera is better but for most people it will be 13 MP vs 4 MP, and I know MP don’t count that much, the HTC One might have a better camera but once again for most people, the S4 will win in their mind.

    6) The S4 runs Android 4.2.2 vs 4.1.2 for the S4, I know HTC will upgrade it soon, but for now the S4 wins. Also I read that Sense 5 didn’t get really good reviews. I don’t care so much because i always run another ROM and run a custom launcher anyway (Nova Prime).

    Granted the HTC One looks great but really HTC screwed up one more time I think.
    At least it will be available on all carriers so I’m sure some people will pick it based on looks and design alone.

    • NYCTheBronx

      Don’t forget that you can’t turn off blinkfeed. HTC One looked really nice but I’d rather go with the S4 because of what you just listed. I don’t remember, did they say how much internal storage will the S4 have at the event?

  • OnlineRefugee

    Way back, and I do mean WAY BACK (in cell phone years, 6 months = 10 human years) HTC was up and coming, or HOT, as we like to sometimes characterize.

    Then the ship engine conked out and HTC paddled toward Microsoft Mobile Land (aka the abyss where Windows Phone, Nokia, and BlackBerry have also gone to die).

    IMO HTC jumped the shark when coming out with locked-down, restricted phones (e.g., models that lack a removable battery, have no external storage (aka microSD slot), and other forms of end user restrictions.

    And lately, OY VEY! Continuing with its 100% USDA Grade A Certifiable Prime Totally Confusing “HTC One” naming convention it appears instead of getting it, HTC decision makers are figuratively receiving advice from has-been CEOs doing time in federal prisons.

    Bad moves HTC, especially in these days of bloody knife fights by manufacturers.

    These days HTC could not afford one bad move, much less the repeated missteps it has made. Samsung and Apple are shoving in their blades and giving the cold steel a few extra twists for good measure.

    Is Samsung winning against HTC, that is, if Samsung even cares about HTC (which I suspect it no longer does). Judging by the amount of HTC blood splattered on my computer display, I’d say so.

    For example, some measures of success include:

    – Are people talking about your product?

    – Are your products talked about on the NATIONAL news?

    – Does your product have NAME RECOGNITION?

    All last week I watched national media and news programs cover the upcoming SGS IV (Samsung smartly issuing pre-debut press releases to generate anticipation and excitement).

    In contrast, I have never heard “HTC One” talked about on the national news. Matter of fact, if you stop 1000 people and asked “What is the Samsung Galaxy S,” many will respond “that’s a cell phone.” Ask them “What is the HTC One?” they will respond “Some kind of all-in-one vitamin?”

    (Of course when a company resorts to name calling and insults: TV, national news, people talking aside, THAT kind of behavior pretty much says it all, doesn’t it.)

    Over and out, for now.

  • OnlineRefugee

    OK, I can’t resist commenting to this HTC big shot’s delusional drivel:

    “Watching the presentation, it looks like they invested a lot in marketing instead of innovation.”

    Uh… who gives a rat’s pitoot. People use about 20% of a cell phone’s features. They don’t know about technical details nor innovation. They understand bling and flash. That’s why if you say “Our phone is 12MP, not 8MP” people think “Oh, the 12MP is the better phone” (even if the 12MP camera takes PO$ pics).

    That’s why manufacturers falsely label a feature as an innovation, rather than tell the truth: “this is actually a rebranding of an old failed product.” Most of tech revolves around investment and emphasis on marketing rather than producing revolutionary and innovative products.

    I mean come on, does anyone seriously think the iPad was an innovative product. Marketing a notebook display, sans physical keyboard, as a must-have device was innovative, but technical innovation it was not. To be sure, I have never heard people say “I have a computer, I have a netbook, I have a smartphone, but I really need a tablet.”

    The iPad (and later tablet) boom was a bubble, that is now going pop, especially in this poor economy. The iPad was evidence what Steve Jobs market prowess could do, he making millions of people thinking they needed a tablet, their lives were incomplete without one. The new thing is probably going to be the “phablet” where people pass on the 10″ tablet, but want something slightly bigger than a 4″ to 4.5″ smartphone. When traveling to work, for example, “poor and portable” Americans want one device, not three.

    In regards to dissing Samsung’s debut hootenanny, should we judge new uncarrier T-Mobile by CEO John Legere taking to the stage looking like a sixty-year-old Beastie Boys impersonator?

    “With a continuation of a plastic body, and a larger screen being the most obvious physical change, Samsung’s new Galaxy pales in comparison to the all-aluminum unibody HTC One.”

    Yeah, OK, that may sound right, except for the fact that Samsung is selling millions and millions of its plastic body phones. Seems to me few are comparing phones based on whether the phone is made of plastic or metal. The only critics of phone composition are people who get paid to be critical. In other words, no one selling phones is asking the customer “will that be metal or plastic?”

    “This is more of the same.”

    Yes, if something is not broke, you don’t fix it.

    And if people can look at a phone from a distance and ID it as a Samsung Galaxy S device, it is foolish to tinker with the design.

    “HTC remains… the best technology wrapped in premium design. Our customers want something different from the mainstream, who appear to be the target for the Galaxy.”

    Comical. Isn’t HTC’s comment indicative that it is simply envious that it is not “the mainstream?” Is HTC trying to stay a niche player? I guess so since this remark appears an insult to the masses.

    “Our customers want original cutting-edge technology, mouth-watering design and a premium feel from their mobiles, which is why we created the HTC One.”

    Is this guy trying to sell chocolate, or perhaps admission to a mink petting zoo?

  • krazytrixxxsta

    desperate times call for desperate measures. What the fuck happened to you, htc? Shit, your ass used to be beautiful!

  • Phedre

    My last two phones have been HTC… and I’m no longer impressed. My current phone can go from 90% battery to 2% battery in the blink of an eye (or last all day, it’s very random) and shuts off for no reason. It’s ridiculously slow and I have very few apps running or downloaded after a factory re-set several months ago.

  • KTP

    All this talk is nice, but when is the HTC One going to be released. Was hoping to get it by my Bay.

  • i just might go HTC One afterall :( … i just can’t get into Touchwiz despite my efforts over the weekend .. and even design wise i just don’t know .. so i’m leaning back to the One over the S4 despite the treachery of HTC and updates and battery performance etc.

  • Kahlayoh

    HTC should try making sure there “Top of the line” phone can be released and not delayed. HTC one…more like HTC None!!! hahahaha