T-Mobile HD2 Event Going Down In NYC, Live (Sort Of) (Updated)


Update: Almost forgot that the @TMobile_USA tweet finally finally finally is confirming what we already knew.  Many many thanks to the @WMExperts crew who gave me their blessing to repost their info.  Enjoy the show, guys!

Thanks to the good folks over at WMExperts who have so graciously and thankfully blessed us with the use of their pictures at the T-Mobile HTC HD2 launch event.  Things are happening live and we definitely suggest checking out the WMExperts live Twitter stream as they update the night away.  We’ll be updating details as they arrive.  Many many thanks to the guys over at WMExperts for allowing us to use their pics as, with little surprise, we weren’t invited.

  • Blockbuster movies: cost anywhere from $2.99-$3.99; you can also buy them. Purchases work w/other BBuster services. Saves to 16gb SD (included)
  • MobiTV is 3g streaming. Works very well. It’s basically live TV.
  • MobiTV is rocking. Very fast and great quality/channel selection. This HD2 is very media-centric. http://twitpic.com/190seq
  • Barnes & Noble eReader: very nice. Syncs OTA w/your acct. You can “lend” to the device but not from the device in this version.
  • Barnes & Noble eReader. Very sharp, legible. Nice animations. http://twitpic.com/191f5m
  • Block Buster Video app on HD2: can pause movie & cont. stream on other BBuster streaming apps/devices. http://twitpic.com/191eo1
  • T-mo Hd2 memory specs for ya… http://twitpic.com/191e1r
  • In flight entertainment app on HD2… http://twitpic.com/191ds9

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  • WMisbest

    Hoping for pre-order! I needs my HD2! Got my TP2 all souped up with the newest Energy ROM to give to my wife. Can’t Wait!!!! I hope pre-order is going to be made avail, Otherwise I will have to go and pick it up on my lunch break or after work = lame.

    • HerbieDerb

      sa…saa….SAA…SAAA…. SOLD!

      • drivethruboy168

        I’m using a HD2 right now… T-Mobile version, This thing is FLIPPIN AWESOME!!!! This is what I was expecting from the Touch Pro 2! I’m not even worried about Android anymore, this phone does EVERYTHING! And it works soo flawlessly! All you guys will love this phone! It is definitely worth the wait and anyone waiting to buy this will definitely be a happy camper! HD2 ALL THE WAY!!!!

  • Sgt. Cell

    Almost here, can’t wait.

  • Ricardo

    T-mobile needs to have contests that open a few seats to these events to the public. I’d love to be there.

    • john

      some of the poster’s here would have to be tazed to keep them from lunging at some of the phones…lol

  • Ronald


    • efjay

      DO EEETTT!!

  • gargoyle999

    so far nothing too new…what was the point of this press thing?

    • Doug

      to promote it? isn’t that one of the knocks on tmobile? they do a poor job of promoting their phones?

      • gargoyle999

        well hope something exciting comes of it to get promoted. Engadget isn’t mentioning it on their site yet and wmexperts is barely saying anything and they are there. It’s been running for an hour and a half!

      • lev

        Actually, they do a horrible job of promoting their phones, good service, most of their commercials are about their plans, and not phones, except the samsung behold 2 commercial that airs 4 months after the phone was released.

    • ItsMichaelNotMike

      Huh? Nothing new? Just because we know all about this device, 99.9999% of the public does not. This event is for them, not YOU as indicated by the fact that YOU did not get an invite. :)

    • ItsMichaelNotMike

      Gargoyle, this is a mainstream press event, not for tech sites, etc.

      And the way it works is that MSM attends the event then go back to their homes and offices and write the stories that will appear in the media.

      Since this is held at night the stories won’t appear until tomorrow’s afternoon edition and on the Thursday morning editions.

      If you go to Google News and search “T-Mobile” you will see that various media are reporting the event.

      So it is getting coverage despite how stories are typically published.

      Ask a white male politician caught with a 16 year male gigolo how the “news cycle” works, they are experts at this stuff.

      Here’s the Google link, hit refresh as often as you want and you can see the latest stories pop up.


  • phalosopher


  • I’ve been taking extra precautions to MAKE SURE I don’t die before this phone drops.

    If a NetFlix app ever comes out for this phone I think I’d loose it. It would be the most complete device I would have ever owned thus far.

    • Doug

      i agree. i’d love a netflix app. maybe that’s something the devs can bring over. who knows. the blockbuster app does seem cool. i wasn’t very familiar with them since i use netflix. but it looks like it’s similar to itunes movie rentals.

  • bigc17

    Somebody better say something good and informing about this because all of this is starting to tick me off, yhe whole 8 day wait, not knowing everthing about the phone and no pre orders yet, what else now. Hope that someone says something we don’t know about the HD2 yet.

    • gargoyle999

      that’s what I’m saying! There is nothing coming out of this event. Yawn…

  • gargoyle999

    I still haven’t been notified from that stick together site and I was supposed to be first! ha..ha…

    Maybe they will email me tonight with a secret presale offer….

    • bigc17

      I haven’t been emailed by tmo either cause I did the same thing. You’re right, they probably will email everyone who did the stick together thing and yeah, hope us loyal tmo customers get a pre order tonight or tomorrow.

    • dm

      Why would you want to pre-order? Wouldn’t it be be better to get it the morning off, instead of waiting for ups to show up at your door…

      • Ricardo

        Many times when you pre-order, you can get the phone earlier then it’s launch date to the public.

  • RCornelous

    I am soooo hoping we can preorder this…I’m ready to get this phone YESTERDAY!!!!

  • steve

    Can you ask them about this picture?


    $7.18 to rent The 4th kind

    $32.38 to buy it

    Seems HIGH as hell, I can take any movie and put it on this phone for free. But other people dont have the know how.

    • Jason Mc

      yea 7.18 is crazy plus taxes means like $10 looks like i will be stealing again movies i mean

      • Ricardo

        WMexperts were saying, and it makes sense, that because the content can be screened on multiple outlets, the price is high. Personally, i don’t need it on multiple outlets. Charge me 3 bucks and i’ll only watch it on my phone.

      • FutureGuyKnowsSoLittle

        I have to disagree on the ‘making sense’ part. It makes no sense when MS rents/sells movies via the Zune marketplace that allows you to download it up to 5 times across 5 different devices, including Zune players and Xbox 360s, and for HALF those BB prices.

        No, if that screen shot is for real, then Blockbuster fails and damn anyone who says BB makes sense. They don’t, and their pricing is proof they still don’t get it. First app to get deleted off my HD2: Blockbuster.

    • blockbuster is reaching hard netflix is killing the market with the 8.99 unlimited streaming. for the prices blockbuster wants you can just order movies from your tv.

    • jon

      I think those prices are to rent and buy the blu ray disk at a local blockbuster. The tweet that goes along with that pic mentioned being able to do that if the movie wasn’t available to stream.

      • FutureGuyKnowsSoLittle

        Now THAT makes sense.

  • Wilma Flintstone


  • waiting4hd2

    isnt the tmobile version supposed to have 1gb rom? am i missing somthing???

    • TmoNinja

      (689.23 megabytes) + (355.69 megabytes) = 1.02042969 gigabytes

      • waiting4hd2

        it says
        total = 689.23
        In use = 355.69
        Free = 333.55
        So total (355.69 + 333.59) = 689.24….

        I dont understand the Total + free = 1 GB calculation :(
        shouldnt it show total as 1 gb and then show how much it is used and how much is free?

      • jon

        Math, you’re doin’ it wrong.

        in use 355.69 +
        Free 333.55 =
        Total 689.24 (rounding error)

      • TmoNinja

        LOL, wow, totally didn’t type that the way I meant it. Good catch guys. Yeah, all the training material and HTC specs point to 1 gig, dunno what’s up with these screens. Maybe someone should check one of the live demo models?

      • Duck Dodgers

        My TP2 says:

        Total: 220.20 MB
        In Use: 146.60MB
        Free: 73.30 MB

        Total: 186.79 MB
        In Use: 138.01 MB
        Free: 48.78 MB.

        The TP2 is suppose to have ROM: 512 MB and RAM: 288 MB so I don’t know if the WM 6.5 soaks up the rest of the 512 MB of ROM or not.

      • ColoradoGray

        WinMo Divides the ROM between space available for storage (documents, images, audio, video, messages, ect), and space available for Program installs. This used to adjustable WAY back when.
        Anywho, so the amth we are looking for is:
        689.23 MB Storage
        +458.76 MB Program
        1147.99 MB of ROM

      • jon


        Not quite, in this screen shot, Storage is ROM, and Program is RAM.

        You can verify this easily if you have a WinMo device. Check the numbers then open several programs, the Free Program memory will drop, close them and it goes back up.

    • ItsMichaelNotMike

      A little late with my post, but Colorado Guy has it right. The amount shown on the Settings page is what is available AFTER the OS, programs, drivers, etc. have taken up part of that ROM.

      The best way to confirm that the 1GB ROM is there and intact is to remember that the European version comes with 512MB ROM.

      The NYC Event screen shot shows 689MB of ROM left. So right there you have exceeded the ROM on the European HD2. 1GB ROM confirmed. :)

      This is nothing new. For one, notice on all computers they provide a disclaimer that says the hard disk capacity it lower than the specified size because of OS install. Same goes for the HD2’s ROM.

      To confirm and compare this with your computer’s hard disk, on your computer open up Windows Explorer. Highlight your “C” drive.

      Right click with your mouse so the drop down menu appears.

      Click “Properties” from the menu.

      Another window will pop up showing your C drive hard disk information.

      Now remember the ADVERTISED or specified size of your hard disk (e.g. 120GB, 160GB, 250GB). Compare that with the number that appears in the pop-up window, on a line item titled “Capacity.”

      Because your hard disk is partially used by instructions, commands and the OS, your disk’s “Capacity” is always LESS than your hard disk’s advertised size.

      Same goes for ROM.


    I wish they would just start selling the phone tmw morning! I’m tired of waiting already. They made me wait THIS long to tell me it’s official! How dare you?!?! LOL. This phone to me is THE perfect phone. It is drop dead gorgeous and with Meagan Fox riding along with me everywhere I go, makes me feel that much better. Haha. I could care less about the whole Transformers movies but it’s cool. It will definately keep my sons entertained that’s for sure. I can’t wait. Everyday does slower and sloower and sloooooooweeer. Can’t stop looking at the time wishing I could just fast forward.

  • NCole

    Ok, so I just logged on to MyTmobile went to upgrade my phone(G1), and if gave me the choice of Cliq…..However, when I put the htc HD2 in the search the product shows up and has an upgrade button. I clicked the button and begin to load only to hit me with this page can’t be loaded in DEVIL RED!!!!UGH!! And after trying it several more times it now just brings me back to the possible upgrade page!!…..Anywho I’m not sure if this gives us FAITHFUL CUSTOMERS A LITTLE LIGHT AT THE END OF THIS LOOOONNNNGGG TUNNEL!! Heres hoping for a pre-order Tonight!!

    • TmoNinja

      That button has been up for almost a week now. I hope there is a pre-order, but if so that button has nothing to do with it. =[

    • Wilma Flintstone

      I been there NCole. The Upgrade button has been there for days and is still not working. They are teasing us Maggie Faithful with all of this crap. Just give us the Friggin’ phone already!!!! First the Secretive crap now the Upgrade Tease. They better tell us something amazing tonight.

  • KiltDaddy

    asked via twitter if they were going to have pre-orders. answer: @kiltdaddy no, or rather no one here to confirm/deny :-/

  • Giddy

    Patience my fellow HD2 anticipatees. We must all quell the excitement rushing through our cores. Please settle yourselves and meditate about the lavishness of the phone. I too am excited and I am now Woooo Saaaaa-ing……..

    LOL! Yeah right! Come on with the phone already! I can’t take it anymore. Say it with me: Pre-Order-Pre-Order-Pre-Order


  • ItsMichaelNotMike

    MSNBC on MobiTV playing on an HD2. TV and tethering… that’s what I’m talking about.

    Goodbye $150 a month Comcast Cable TV and broadband.

  • NCole

    GEEEZ!!!!! Welp there goes my light:( Thanks for the honesty Mr.TmoNinja, I just can’t wait any longer!!! Can someone explain to me why Blockbuster has those outrageous prices for rentals?(Other than them being the devil)……You know something, It wasn’t this difficult or stressful when I purchased my G1 and I stalked & PRE-ORDERED it!! Tmobile is doing the most…But I’ll continue waiting:)

    • TmoNinja

      No prob,I work for em, but I’m waiting just as anxiously as you. Wish they’d just put this phone out for us who wanna pre-order. =]


    My question is why are we (in the USA) the last ones to get all the good phones? The N1 is probably the only phone that came out here first but that’s because it’s a pain in the @$$ to get one for a decent price unless you were a brand spankin’ new customer. What a slap in the face by Google! We make the G1 (which i’m dying to throw out my window now because of how Google treats loyal customers) a huge success and then they want us to pay over $400 for their phone which we (loyal G1 early adapters)made possible in the first place. I am SO happy that a GREAT non Android phone is coming out so that I can stop supporting Google. I actually LOVED Google until I got slapped in the face by them. That’s fine I’m tired of seeing that green snot on my screen….oops I meant green robot. I’m glad the N1 had so many problems and glad they haven’t sold like they expected. Thank God for the HD2. I will use it until I am ready to get another phone. Phew! I felt better now that I got to vent :). Comparing the HD2 with HTC Sense and WP7, the HD2 looks so much more ALIVE! WP7S looks like lego blocks on the homescreen. Very tacky and lame. That’s just my opinion. Oh and one last thing…F*&% Google!

  • RCornelous

    Well, I was hoping for additional information from the event…no info on pre-ordering or nothing!! What’s up with that??? Most of the stuff that was said we already knew!!

  • Davidohio

    I am glad the HD2 is not Win7 upgradeable because I just read on http://www.phonescoop.com that win7 won’t support multitasking or micro sd cards and will be “locked down” apple style. That sucks. It also had an article about the HD2 and said it will have windows mobile 6.5 and NOT 6.5.3

    • Kevin

      Not a problem for me. I’m getting this phone because of Sense. No Sense, no buy. It hides Win Mo so deep you can barely tell it’s a WM OS. So I’m very content and cannot wait until the 24th. The Only time I will really have to mess with WM is when I’m going to the Marketplace. This phone is a true beast, but most wont know it because their too busy b*tchin about it not having WM7. 6.5 is a blessing in disguise for the HD2.

    • Wilma Flintstone

      You’re kidding me right Davidohio? If that’s true about WP7, seriously count me out. I already didn’t like WP7 but that is just full of Suck.

      • wojax2

        its not looking so good for wp7s ..too many limitations like apple, I will not initially be upgrading to 7 series- this could end up like the win xp, windows 7 debacle…the hd2 is gonna do me just fine with a little help from xda.

  • NCole

    Thanks Wilma Flintston:)

    • Wilma Flintstone

      No Problem NCole. Cool Shades BTW :) Hopefully Maggy will give everybody here early access to the HD2.

      • Wilma Flintstone

        Also, have you seen SPB Mobile Shell 3.5? It’s a custom ROM for WinMo that I’ll be using on my HD2. If not, then here’s the link to it:

        SPB Mobile Shell 3.5

        Enjoy. Ciao.

      • NCole

        Thanks times 2:) That video was awesome!!! I think I’m going to copy cat you on this one!! I love how sleek it looks!!! Great video

      • Wilma Flintstone

        Thanks and feel free to copy as you’re one cool cat. HAAA!!! I will be getting that ROM as soon as I leave the Maggy Store with my HD2.

  • RCornelous

    I just read that Windows Phone 7 won’t even allow cut and paste!!!

  • Tony

    What is the purpose of pre-orders.. please elaborate! Do you get it mailed to your house the first day or something?

    • jon

      Every once in a while pre-orders allow early access.

      e.g. The phone is for sale on the 24th, pre-orderers could pick theirs’ up on the 22nd.

      Doesn’t seem to be the case here though.

    • FutureGuyKnowsSoLittle

      *OR* it guarantees you got one in case it sells out.

  • waiting

    I’m really not sure what the point of giving them our email addy’s was. Doesn’t seem like there will be a pre-order =/

  • phalosopher

    Yeaaaa I’m definitely askin for next day or 2day.. wutever they got available if we can pre-order!


    Tell me about it. I gave them my email address and have not received a thing from them YET! I can only imagine they will send something juicy besides the damn release date because EVERYONE knows what day it’s launching already. I hope they don’t end up emailing me to tell me the phone is available AFTER I already have the phone. When it comes down to pre ordering, I’m not quiet sure I want to go that route. When the G1 was coming out, my friend pre ordered his and I didn’t. I went to the store and got it the first day it came out. My friend had to wait for it to come in the mail and got it about 3 or 4 days later. He was really upset so I don’t want to take that chance with the HD2. I have a buddy that works at Tmo so he is going to let me know as soon as they get them in stock. I can’t wait.

    • waiting

      I’m hoping for a pre-order cause the closest T-mobile to me is about 1 hour away… unless walmart or target decide to carry it, but they never seem to have the latest phones at the ones around here.

  • NJchic

    i just called tmobile just to see what they would say about pre-odering, which i knew would be a NO anyway. The reps are still saying they have nooo idea when this phone is coming out OR the pricing! I find that hilarious! Guess they’ll deny till the last minute! Then she tried to sell me a MyTouch and home phone service, Thanks but I’ll pass LoL!

  • waiting

    From Tmobile_USA twitter…

    “@PhilUp100Proof You can’t pre-order but you can be notified as soon as them become available http://cot.ag/9cbfbE ^CG”

    lol Why even have a notification. Everyone who wants this phone already knows it will be available on the 24th… Tmobile, this is just fail.


    As if we need to be notified of when this phone is going to be available. Wednesday March 23rd 2010 as soon as the doors open for business! If that was the point of signing up to be “the first to know” then that was complete garbage. I know more than the Tmo reps know about this phone….or they play a damn good job of acting stupid. LOL.

  • gargoyle999

    Well at least this press thing tonight isn’t going to create any long lines. Still don’t think much came out of it. Guess I can sleep in late next Wed. Head over to the local store around 8:30am.

  • ItsMichaelNotMike

    My feeling about all this is that:

    1. As I said a few days ago, I was hoping (and still hoping) that there is some reason for us signing up for e-mail notices. I hope that was not simply to tell us about the 24th. But then again, that page assumes we are plain ol customers. So getting e-mail notice of even the most basic info would be a benefit to someone who does not follow this stuff (aka, someone who would ask “What’s T-MoNews?”)

    2. Remember loyalty pricing? Well T-Mo should bestow upon it’s loyal customers some kind of advance notice and the opportunity to buy before everyone else.

    Come on T-Mobile, give us loyal customers a reason to feel special and to stay with you. Some companies call that VIP status. Heck, even Walgreen’s Drug Store calls me a VIP, on the cash register when they ring up my drugs. If Walgreen’s can do it, why not YOU T-Mo?

    • ace

      Good point Michael……As an employee,one of my biggest complaints is how we treat returning or loyal customers. why would a 5 or 6 year customer get the same pricing as someone who has only been here for 1 year? Part of the reason we are #4 is that we do not hold on to the customers we have. We have a churn of over 2.5% while Verizon is under 1%. Could it be that they give upgrading customers $ 100 off the price of the phone? Imagine the HD2 for $99.99 !!!!!!!!!!!!

  • rigel

    Is the $199.99 price with or without a rebate? Also, will the HD2 be available at T-mobile.com and other online outlets, on the same day as the retail stores? T-Mobile offers 35% cash back through Bing.com and Amazon usually offers great deals as well. I won’t mind waiting a few days for delivery if it means getting the best deal on the phone. ;-)

    • gargoyle999

      Is that 35% Bing cashback still valid? I’m not finding it for T-Mobile.

      • rigel

        Still there. Enter “t-mobile” in the search box. You’ll see “Exclusive Online Offers at T-Mobile®. Get 35% Cashback From Bing!”. Click on the “Bing cashback” link, etc.

    • ItsMichaelNotMike

      The HD2 info brochure that this Site posted said it applied to everyone you mentioned.

      • rigel

        Yeah I saw the memo, but does that actually happen? Does T-Mobile implement a coordinated simultaneous release to all sales channels? As a long time Sprint customer, I have seen new products released to the market rather haphazardly. Retail might get the phone one week, telesales the next week, online another week and so on.

        I am hoping for a different experience with T-Mobile. ;-)

  • phalosopher

    So…. updates by midnight?! C’mon tmo…

  • Nellz3k

    i have a Sprint contract that expires in May but i’m gonna go ahead and drop $450 on the HD2 on the release day. Will it work just like a ipod touch with the wifi til i activate it in May?

    • DotNetCoderAZ

      AFAIK, you can use it with Wifi and no sim card, but I’m not 100% sure on that. I’ll have to test it with one of my devices.

      • Nellz3k

        DotNetCoderAZ, thanks for checkin on that!

      • DotNetCoderAZ

        So, in testing with my TP2 (which should be the same since it’s still HTC hardware), I was able to use WiFi, so in theory, you could use it until you get your SIM activated. However, things like GPS didn’t work quite as well (I think it’s because of A-GPS). Also, for some reason, things that should be network agnostic (Pandora and IE) would complain when I first launched them. After the apps ran for a few minutes, there was no problem.


  • trife

    I know this device isn’t being marketed as a business phone, but if there is somehow a pre-order for business accounts, I can assure you that some non-business account holders will get lucky with receiving an early HD2.

    Every time a new Blackberry has released on TMO (Curve, 8900, 9700), I’ve been able to order the phone early via Customer Care. Time will tell though, but time is getting short with only 1 week left until the official drop date.

  • tchez27

    Thanks a lot tmobile, I stayed up pass by bedtime for this friggin “press invite only” event just to find out that you either had a very small crowd or no one drinks at these events. Off to bed now in hopes that I wake up to a preorder email. Tchez out!

  • ItsMichaelNotMike

    Above I explained how news cycles work and that you should look to later tonight and tomorrow for coverage of the T-Mo event.

    Well take a look at how the respected PC World covered the event. Compare this with what you know.


    I’ll post it here in the event the link goes dead:

    “Phone maker HTC and wireless carrier T-Mobile announced the highly anticipated HD2 smartphone in the U.S. on Tuesday, but also said that no plans were in place to put Microsoft’s upcoming Windows Phone 7 OS on the device yet.

    The smartphone includes a large 4.3-inch touchscreen and runs the Windows Mobile 6.5 Professional OS. The HD2 was originally launched in October in Europe, and Microsoft has said Windows Mobile 6.5 devices could not be upgraded to Windows Phone 7.

    Users could therefore be left with a device that can’t be upgraded when Microsoft’s Windows Phone 7 is officially released. Microsoft has said that smartphones based on new OS could become available starting late this year.

    Despite the growing enthusiasm surrounding Windows Phone 7, the companies didn’t want to wait for the new OS to release the HD2 in the U.S., said Jon Eliav, a T-Mobile spokesman. Eliav said that HTC is not providing a projection on when or whether HD2 smartphones will carry the Windows Phone 7 OS.

    “We don’t know when the first [Windows 7 Phone OS] device is coming out,” Eliav said.

    At the time of the Windows 7 OS launch, a number of carriers worldwide, including T-Mobile, committed to offer Windows Phone 7 Series devices as part of their phone offerings.

    The HD2 phone will be available in the U.S. on March 24 for US$449 without a contract, and for $199 with a mobile phone contract with T-Mobile. It includes 3G, GPS, Wi-Fi and Bluetooth 2.1 wireless connectivity options.

    The phone includes a 5-megapixel camera and runs on Qualcomm’s 1GHz processor. It weighs 157 grams (0.35 pounds), and provides 3G talk tame of 320 minutes and standard talk time of 380 minutes. The standby time for the phone is up to 490 hours.

    The phone provides up to eight hours of battery life on video playback and 12 hours on audio playback. The devices comes with 576MB of memory and includes a MicroSD card slot for expandable storage.

    The companies have also tied up with a range of content providers to deliver multimedia to the device. Users will be able to download video from Blockbuster or e-books from Barnes and Noble. The company has also tied up with MobiTV to receive live TV. During a demonstration, the HD2 played back a movie and the MSNBC TV channel without choppy images.”

  • Ronald

    What was the whole point of signing up for the latest updates on the HD2? I never did receive an email every since I signed up on January 6th!

    • dj lu

      same here!!

    • FutureGuyKnowsSoLittle

      What is the point of asking this question again when it was asked a few posts up?

  • vic

    My local tmo had Hd2 in stock today but had none on the floor. The rep was cool and even took my name to set one aside for me but I told her that I would most likely be her first customer on the 24 to get it. She also told me that she did not know if pre-ordering would be available but she wolud let me know in the morning.

  • ItsMichaelNotMike

    Interesting how different media garnered different information from the event.

    Here’s what another media outlet said:

    “… The T-Mobile version of the HD2 switches to the US carrier’s native 3G network but also comes with several preloaded apps, including Barnes & Noble’s e-reader, Blockbuster’s movie streaming service and MobiTV for Internet streaming TV. A pair of incentives are also preloaded, including six months of free Gogo in-flight Wi-Fi and both modern-day Transformers movies.

    HTC’s handset remains the most advanced Windows Mobile 6.5 device to date and is the first with a capacitive touchscreen and multi-touch gestures, both owing to custom work by its creator and not Microsoft.

    A quick 1GHz Snapdragon processor, 5-mega-pixel camera, GPS, Wi-Fi and microSDHC storage put the HD2 in the mid-to-high range. Despite its capabilities, however, it won’t be eligible for upgrading to Windows Phone 7 due to its control layout.”

  • Bigg

    Anything about a one year contract pricing?

  • why pay for mobitv when you can just get a sling box? I got one waiting to use it on my curve when it can out (no support for it at the time) then got a G1 only to find out that they came out with one for blackberries. Then no support for android no im getting the hd2 its going to be great. live cable on my phone all the movie channels i already have. no point of mobitv if you ask me just sling it. cant wait til the 24th.

    • Ricardo

      Sling box let’s you control your tv and dvr while mobitv is actual live tv on your phone.

      • HerbieDerb

        Your comment makes you look very…. unintelligent.

  • tchez27

    So far last night’s event and participants havent produced anything we didnt already know. They would’ve been better off just making a youtube video of the youtube video the European demo showed.

  • benjitek

    Looks like a fun device for a while, but can’t help think I’d be purchasing an antique. Having to cover up the OS to make it usable, combined with it not being upgradable to WP7 makes this an unlikely purchase for the masses :( Enjoy it if you get one though :)

    • vic

      So I guess the fact that the desire that will be running android and have sense on top of it is to make android usable also? You android fans are killing me. Not be able to upgrade to WP7 is not an issue unlike all of the android devices that has yet to see an upgrade to 2.0 and new device that have been released that were released with outdated software. Take a chill pill homie.

      • vic

        So I guess the fact that the desire that will be running android and have sense on top of it is to make android usable also? You android fans are killing me. Not being able to upgrade to WP7 is not an issue unlike all of the android devices that has yet to see an upgrade to 2.0 and new devices that have been released with outdated software. Take a chill pill homie

  • wojax2

    speaking off subject a little here…I gotta say that wp7s is an epic..fail!!! no multi-tasking,copy paste,no removeable storage..wow! I just saw on another website that Microsoft demoed windows phone 7 on an samsung omnia hd!! This phone doesn’t nearly have the specs that the hd2 has,and its running 7series!!!are you serious Microsoft?! and they dont want to upgrade the hd2’s software huh? microsoft is full of it!… samsung themselves said that they dont know for sure if their omnia hd is getting the update-but the fact that microsoft demoed 7 series on their phone @ the 7 series event should indicate pretty clearly. if I were t-mo and htc I would’ve demanded that 7 series be ported onto the hd2, especially if their showing it on an inferior device!(OMNIA HD). But then again.. it seems like we are all better off with winmo 6.5 anyways-sorry for the rant ,but I was just trying to make a point to all the people on the fence about the hd2 because it wont get windows 7 series- the hd2 just…. doesnt need it!

    • FutureGuyKnowsSoLittle

      I somewhat agree that WP7 is trying too much to be like Apple, however, I don’t see it as a huge failure at all.

      First, because you’re techinically wrong about the HD2 not ‘updgrading’… not to WP7, but MS has stated that WM6.5.XXX will continue to be supported and will exist. Supposedly, once WP7 lands, WM6.5XXX will be renamed something to the effect of ‘Windows Phone Starter’.

      In other words, MS isn’t stupid at all. They aren’t replacing one with another, they’re going to have TWO distince mobile OS’s out at the same time. One to compete as a ‘media centric’ device to go against Android and iPhone; the other to appease the open-source and multi-tasking crowd who hate Apple for being closed. Its so damn smart… Apple goes for one crowd, Google goes for the opposing crowd; meanwhile, MS is trying to hit up BOTH crowds.

      Despite all the limitations, iPhone is still the #1 selling phone, even when Apple shafts everyone by leaving out features and then ‘upgrading’ the handset every year. So the complaints about WP7, I imagine, really fall on deaf ears. The mass consumer has proven that these things don’t matter to them as long as the UI is good and the phone runs smoothly.

      Personally, I would normally be in total agreement with you, but the two things that MS will hook me on: Xbox and Zune. I have and love both… so to have a phone that will integrate with them would be awesome. I also learned from time w/ the G1 about what I really and truly need from a smartphone, and WP7 would fit my lifestyly very very well. (I also learned from time w/ the G1 that I totally miss WinMo… I don’t give a crap what MS haters want to say about it).

      • Camusa

        I just have to say that this and the post above are two of the most astute and concise posts I have seen on the subject.
        I had been gearing up to buy this puppy from the word, “go,” but had trepidations due to the OS change and no WP7 upgrade.
        The above explanation is making me rethink that this device may be perfect for me in that I need a productivity device and want some nice media/gaming features. The “zunesque” features of WP7 are enticing, but I like how you both have phrased this and I may just move forward with purchasing this device after all instead of waiting for the first releases of WP7.

      • wojax2

        “that seems to me to In other words, MS isn’t stupid at all. They aren’t replacing one with another, they’re going to have TWO distinct mobile OS’s out at the same time. One to compete as a ‘media centric’ device to go against Android and iPhone; the other to appease the open-source and multi-tasking crowd who hate Apple for being closed. Its so damn smart” -that to me seems like a very dangerous game…I understand the logic of having a business geared OS and then having a media geared OS but isn’t that gonna confuse the common consumer a bit ; like the whole windows 7-windows vista debacle?…Microsoft to me seems a little confused at who they are trying to be. They alienate their loyal costumers by not letting them upgrade their os’s on newer winmo devices to 7 series, and now they want to appear to be hip! by bringing in the iphone loving,video game playing tweetin,facebookin teenie boppin crowds to come solely to their side to saturate the already flooded, and confused microsoft os market.- 7 series should be an os that appeals to everyone,not just some..seems like they are gearing up for an excuse to drop winmo 6.5 in the very new future, as to bring their costumers to a totally restricted and not very customizable OS. sure they can play the apple game but remember-Apple is not just successful because of the iphone they also have the great and reliable software, hardware to prove it!(imac,ipod iphone ipad,i-whatever..) Microsoft on the other hand…..doesn’t have that luxury- and you know it. if wp7series is your thing ,go for it….. me im sticking it out with winmo 6.5 till the wheels fall off! again 7 series =fail!!:(

  • randall

    dang it, I was really hoping for a preorder.I have to work the 24th, and wont be able to get to a tmo store till the 25th

  • Phalosopher

    yea.. the hope is starting to fade a lil bit in regards to pre-ordering.. (sigh)…

  • dm

    I don’t know about you guys, but not really upset about not being able to pre-ordering.. When the G1 came out I pre-ordered mine, and it ended up getting to me 3 days later than release date, and I couldn’t even cancel it and go into a tmo store and pick up one, which they had stock sitting there. Let’s say I wasn’t happy…

    • Joe Pa

      Yeah, at this point I wouldn’t preorder anyways now. I’ll just pick it up on the 24th when the doors open.

  • DK Brothers

    Prediction: Windows Mobile 7 will be the death of the WM platform. Everything I’ve read about it is nothing but warmed over iPhone guts. It’s the crap that crap passes in the toilet. Oh, Microsoft! You have fallen so far from your ivory tower. After my HD2 has become long in the tooth, I’ll be checking out Android once again.

  • SirMac

    All I know, Magenta will be getting a lot of money on the 24th. . . Im just asking for a pre-order.

  • imthatguy704

    My T-mobile store had two demo phones for folks to come in and play with. Needless to say I went this past Saturday and must say it’s a wonderful device. I also put my name on the list(#12) and had them run my info so all I have to do now is pay & play come march 24th.

  • ItsMichaelNotMike

    To help pass the time you can read the 310 page European HD2 user manual. LOL.


  • Phalosopher

    Greensboro,NC Tmo store still has NO INFO in regards to the release or price or the HD2!!! How can this be?!

    • Joe Pa

      Educate them.

    • TmoNinja

      Are you going to the T-Mobile corporate store in Greensboro or the T-Mobile Limited store in Greensboro?

  • JT

    An hour ago, main customer service people claim they know NOTHING about release dates or pricing for the HD2 – say they won’t know anything until they start selling it in the stores – that should halp speed up any lines, eh? She said she doubts the $199 and the $449 prices snd – shes’ even heard that the 24th date may not be any good! Talk about the blind leading the blind – I just want to get an estimate of how much an “early” upgrafe is going to cost me (got a Pro 2 in November w/2 year contract).

    • Joe Pa

      That’s pretty bad. It’s common knowledge now, I can’t believe they are still trying to keep this cloud of mystery around this phone.

  • Mike

    I only qualify for a partial upgrade. How much would i be getting this HTC HD2 phone ???

  • ItsMichaelNotMike

    Well my post from two nights ago did not register, so maybe there’s s space limit on comments? No matter, I’ll try this one more time. :)

    Warning and tip: Yes, this is long. If it offends, don’t read it. That’s better than posting flames.


    Can people quit with the expressions of betrayal and feeling cheated for not getting WP7 on the HD2. The HD2 is a WinMo phone, deal with it. Bonus suggestion: Buy an Android phone so you can get some sleep tonight.

    First, some statements of fact:


    Does anyone seriously think that MS intends to abandon the professional and business user and force them to use WP7, a mobile OS that is mostly about fun, games and social networking?

    If that was MS’s strategy that would have made the nightly news with headlines like “Microsoft Is Divorcing Businesses and Professionals .” But there are no such plans and that’s why the only place we hear about such nonsense is on these boards.

    Even if you don’t follow this kind of stuff it does not take much faith to accept that MS will continue to support its business and professional customers.


    If you accept the contention that MS does not intend to abandon the professional and business user, which OS do you think MS will make available to them? Uh… it’s Windows Mobile Professional. While older iterations of WinMo may be renamed Classic, etc., that’s only to differentiate the “base OS” or basic OS from the professional version that includes MS mobile Office apps.


    What about hardware? Well guess what, the professional and business user too want the latest, fanciest handset. If you are on this board you follow handset development and know what is what. Thinking about all the handsets out there, it’s a safe bet that HTC will be supplying at least two smartphones for the WinMo professional/business user, the HD2 and the upcoming Touch Pro3.

    (I submit that the HD2 is more a hybrid device, catering to people who want a multi-media phone, but also need the business applications. That’s a good move considering, for example, that many business travelers like playing a movie when on the plane or in a hotel room.)

    That’s right, the HD2 is a Windows Mobile device. As I said above, accept that it is and move on. If you don’t want a phone meant for professional and business users, STOP COMPLAINING ABOUT THE HD2, don’t buy it and take a look at Android offerings. Buy an Android-based phone or wait to buy a WP7-based phone that will emphasize social networking and is promised to provide you a multi-media extravaganza.


    People on the Net continue to confuse and/or lump together into a single concept: WP7, WinMo, consumers, professionals, business users, smartphones, superphones, pricing, current phones and upcoming phones. Absent from the discussion is Microsoft’s dual-platform strategy and MS’s intentions in the mobile market. Everyone, including the media, makes unfounded assumptions and post BS as if they are an insider with the real scoop.

    So for the tenth time:

    — WinMo is not going anywhere. MS will continue to develop the platform. (Not so YOU say? Does anyone have any evidence whatsoever that MS intends to abandon or discontinue WinMo?)

    — WP7 is NOT replacing WinMo so quit saying that.

    — MS will continue to develop the WinMo OS, new versions will be debuting this year and next. MS has in fact said these things. In contrast, MS has never said WinMo will be no more.

    — WinMo is for the professional and business user. It is NOT for the consumer.

    — WP7 Series superphones are for the consumer, people who are debating whether to get an iPhone, Nexus One, WP7 Series phone (and of course Android-user trolls.)

    — WinMo-based phones will continue to include apps and programs geared toward the professional such as Office mobile suite.


    WinMo is obsolete (please look up the definition of “obsolete,” it’s different than “outdated;” I agree that aspects of WinMO are outdated); WP7 is replacing WinMo; MS is taking WinMo off the market; MS will not be further developing WinMo; WP7 and WinMO are similar platforms — therefore WP7 should be judged on how much of an improvement it is over WinMo…


    If you think you do, fell free to post evidence to support any of the above contentions. Don’t look too long because MS has never intimated any of the above. In contrast, for example, Google with “dual platform” in quotes and see what pops up.


    Stop the whining, protests and complaining. The HD2 is a WinMo handset. Buy it, love it, caress it. Or don’t.

    Yes, it would be cool if MS and HTC gave HD2 purchasers the option of selecting WP7 or WinMO, or slipped a coupon into the T-Mo HD2 box promising an upgrade to WP7 (and that may well happen) but you need to stop with the rants, saying you feel gypped and then proceeding to diss MS and the WinMo lineage.

    Personally I prefer WinMo because it’s an OS more suited for professional use. The WP7 user interface looks something in concept like MotoBlur where the emphasis is providing, as MS said last July 2009, a “rich, premium user experience where people can keep in touch with all their social contacts from one place on the Windows Phone, the Today screen.”

    Moreover, WP7 will be closed source. MS is going to put coding in there that makes it very difficult for XDA or others to get everything to work on a hacked HD2, for example. Look at the TP2 to see what I mean. XDA senior members (meaning they are really smart and gifted) cannot crack Android and the TP2 to where they can get critical features to work, for example, Bluetooth, GPS and initially, custom ringtones.

    So IMHO it’s going to be some time before WP7 is cracked and ported on to other devices (assuming MS takes steps to keep XDA out). So I’ll keep my WinMo 6.x.x, thank you.

    Well the Ambien is kicking in so I better post this while I still can. Flame away Android fanboys. And pardon in advance no time to spell check or review for content/grammar. I am nodding off as I type. Thanks for reading, hope it all made HTC sense.

    • David, Managing Editor

      Michael, shouldn’t be any space on the comments, not sure what would have happened. If it occurs again let me know. Though two nights ago we did go down for a few hours so its possible some wires might have gotten crossed.

  • H Deezy

    Yeah the same thing happened to my friend when he pre ordered the g1. I don’t want to risk it. I need this phone the minute the doors open at Tmo. If I were to pre order and the phone comes a few days later I will raise hell. LOL. I am already having a hard time waiting for the release date. I just came back from playing with an HD2 at Tmo. The rep there told me that he doesn’t know if they will be selling on the 24th. He said they might start selling the 27th. That would really SUCK! That would be a Saturday and it will be pandemonium at the stores. I didn’t mention anything to him about the official release date from the event last night. He also told me that I might be able to pre order it starting this weekend but I am not going to go that route. He didn’t too much sound like he knew what he was talking about but you never know. I just know I hope he is wrong about the release date. My bday is the 23rd and waiting until the 24th to get this phone is long enough. This phone to me is the perfect phone. The store had 2 HD2’s. I was checking one out and another customer also. They might have more who knows. They are probably stocked up with them but can’t tell anybody about it. Oh well, one more LONG ASS WEEK to go. Let’s do this!

    • Joe Pa

      I’ve talked to 3 stores in my area and that all said the 24th. The 27th would be sucky for sure….

  • MuLtiPaSs

    Does anyone know what the cost of MobiTV will be? Will it and the Blockbuster Movie app be something you subscribe to separately or will they bill through T-Mobile?

    Waiting on HD2… Trying.. Patiently…

    • Bdar

      MobiTV is around $10/mo. added to your bill. BB I’m not certain, but from screen shots it appears as though it’s free to browse and you pay for what you watch.

  • JR

    I’m not looking to get flamed here but just as an FYI, you might want to wait for CTIA next week before you drop some coin for the HD2. I don’t know anything BUT, for me I don’t want buyers remorse if some cool phones are announced at CTIA. As much as I like the HD2, I for one am hoping for a new Palm device for Tmo. Pleeese

    • Lol I kinda know where your coming from.

    • Joe Pa

      Palm has money to develop new phones?

      • DotNetCoderAZ


    • greg

      tmo has a 14 day return policy. So if something better comes out, return it. Also a good way to test it out…if your so concerned about winmo

  • randall

    so with the confusion on the pricing with the cliq xt, is it certain we will get 199 w/data pricing,I am fully upgrade eligible with no data plan. I am getting a little worried.

  • phalosopher

    @ ninja.. I called the tmo store @ 4 seasons mall(3rd floor)

  • gargoyle999

    about as exciting as the event itself (not very) but here is what’s on cnet now..


  • Charlie

    Stoppped by the store in Denver…played with the HD2. They got the display units in today. I will prob jump from VZN for this phone….or at least I will give tmo a shot. Where do I get a good review of carriers based on city??

  • rupert22

    Mobile TV is free the first month then 9.99 each month after. The phone works wonderful and everything is hd quality. Cant wait till next week will be the first person at the door.

  • Doug

    Just called a Chicago store. I asked if they’re doing pre-orders or keeping a list. He said no but they’re getting around 40 phones so there won’t be a problem. ALSO I asked if it would be available on the 24th. Get this, he said they are going on sale on FRIDAY the 26th but they will be available to demo on the 24th.

    He seemed pretty sure of himself. Is it common for stores to pick their own release date? This is getting pretty confusing.

    • Doug

      Aaaaaand I called another store and they said they will definitely have them available on the 24th. And they have some for demo already. Stop playin’ with me, TMO.

  • phalosopher

    (Sigh)… sooo no pics or additional info about the event lastnight.. did it even happen?!lol

    • gargoyle999

      It was a snooze fest. lol…

      Just as well for those of us wanting to buy one. Don’t think there will be to much competition from others storming the doors as 9am.

  • scc

    I visited my tmo store today and the manager actually had the HD2. He confirmed that the phone will be in stores on the 24th, but said that the it will – more than likely – cost more than $199 & It should be around the same cost as the Pro2.

    • Doug

      that would be really annoying seeing tmobile announced it was going to be 199.99

    • ItsMichaelNotMike

      Huh? What a cornball that manager is. For one, the time for rumors and speculation is over. Maybe before his comment might have been plausible, but he (and you?) is aware that T-Mobile officially announced the price.

      In my book that trumps what a moron misinformed manager says. Talk about out of the loop.

      • randall

        Well tmo has only posted a price with a qualifying 2 yr plan w/data, it may be the price for new activation, and not upgrades.I certainly hope this isnt the case

      • ItsMichaelNotMike

        I don’t get what people are saying here. I have seen every web media site, including those who attended the launch event, say that the phone is $199 on a two year, $450 on Even More Plus (meaning no discount).

        What is unclear about $199 and $450?

      • scc

        Look Mike, don’t shoot the messenger. That’s what the manager told me. I even questioned him with disbelief because pretty much everything else was right on the forums about this device. He said he didn’t know exactly how much it would cost, but was pretty damn sure $199.99 was out of the question. Is he wrong? We’ll find out soon!

        He just got the phone that day & was excitedly playing with it in the store. Nice ‘entertainment’ phone. I’m anxious to read the forums after this phone has been purchased.

  • manushka

    Finally saw it today! woo hoo!! Weirdly, it did not feel as big as I assumed. It feels right in my hand. I like it and cannot wait.

  • hansmann1

    I have been reading all the glowing comments about the T-Mobile HTC HD2 for some time now and finally gave in and called T-Mobile yesterday.
    I am a 10+ years T-Mobile customer (going back to the early VoiceStream days) with a grandfathered BB unlimited e-mail package ($19.99). While I understand that T-Mobile requires me to sign up for a new Web plan (no grandfathering possible) incl. e-mail for $30.00 without SMS. I have a problem that they also require me to pay $10.00 more for my existing voice plan (1000 anytime minutes for $39.99) which I do not intend to upgrade. I was asking how many customers they have with 10+ years of continuous service – and why there are no customer loyalty plans available? I did not get an answer and I did not expect one. So for me – unless their (voice) plan prices stay the same – no HD2. Oh well….

    • HerbieDerb

      That will be your loss for trying to save $10 a month and lusting after the most spec’ed out smartphone currently in the US.

    • Joe Pa

      Just buy it unlocked.

  • Mista

    I just sold my blackberry bold 9700 to get the htchd2

  • Joe Pa

    lol…it says “out of stock” on T-mobile site

  • david

    I just got off the phone with a tmob rep and they said they don’t know what site I’m on and I told them the site and they said you can’t listen to anything that is posted on a 3rd party site so yeah..also they said that they don’t know when the phone will be out or how much the phone will even be so I don’t know what’s going on with damn tmob and some people are hearing the 24th n some hearing 27th so I don’t know what day it will be..I hope it willl come out on the 24th..

    I just hope they don’t wait till like the last minute to say well the phone is out and u can get it and have people sit out at tmob store for doors open and them say its not out today on the 2th and I be not till like 27th or in april so hope they will let eveyone know in advance so noone wastes time sitting in front tmob store for nothing..

  • waiting4hd2

    TMOBILE site for HTC HD2 has the following information. Funny…technical bug..

  • hansmann1

    “HerbieDerb says:
    March 18, 2010 at 11:23 am

    That will be your loss for trying to save $10 a month and lusting after the most spec’ed out smartphone currently in the US.”

    Not really – this is more a matter of principle – why does Tmob have to increase the price of my existing voice plan? I understand the data plan – np there – but this is just greed. Guess what – 3 months down the road another “most spec’ed out” phone will be available – and another one in 6 months…
    You hopefully realize the day you buy the HTC HD2 it is old news. Now if HTC has a similar phone with a more mature Android OS, that would be something to think about…

    • HerbieDerb

      Either their greed or your cheapness. New gadgets come out and go out all the time. Pricing of plans will change with demand. There is more demand now than before, so pricing goes up, ie. VZW. If you can control yourself and not lust after the latest and greatest handset, youll save yourself some change but have a boring phone. If youve talked youself out of the HD2.. then this is all moot. btw, the next big thing is coming in the next 2 weeks. Too bad you cant grandfather your CHEAP plan to Sprint.

      IMO, HD2 will have a VERY long shelf life in the US.

      • hansmann1

        Now HerbieDerb – hold your horses…

        I still do not understand what the correlation is to my voice plan? The demand is not on voice – it’s on web and other neat features. No one buys the HD2 because of the voice plan. As mentioned before – I understand the data plans – voice has nothing to do with it – except maximizing profits and greed!
        Not sure how long you have been with tmob – but based on your philosophy (the newest gadgets, the next big thing) it probably is only a few months – since you seem to jump to the next BIG thing. IMO – the long shelf life will be debated when the next BIG thing hits the market…

  • Bdar

    Just left a T-Mo Retail store in BR, LA and played with the HD2 for about 45min. |D
    Also the reps there were not as versed on the device as I was, but they loved listening to me rave about this device. I showed them (on the HD2) the video of the guy taking keys, scissors, knife, leatherman to the screen, and I taught them about Skyfire.

    They said that their location will only be receiving 8 units and they’ve already begun a waiting list (I quickly put my name down for 2[BOGO FTW]). Two others already had the same idea. The rep said that the first 8 lines signed up will get them, and that they’ll call all of us on the 23rd to confirm. They also said that after those eight are gone it won’t be until ~April 5th before the next batch arrives, so no BOGO on those.

    Also, they let me watch them unpackage and play with some of the accessories they’ve received for the HD2. They got some screen protectors and (laughably) some inferior quality gel-skins to the one provided, and a nice set of hard-cases with silicone exteriors (unfortunately they only came in pink or fuchsia, no nice black, metal, or white yet) but I definitely will go back for one of those hard-cases, the quality felt nice.

    Hopefully I’ll be tided over until the 24th now. :)

    • Joe Pa

      My local store said 20, and that new activations get first dibs. He told me not too many people were calling, spas long you made it in by 10am…..you would get one easy. They aren’t taking names either….

      • ItsMichaelNotMike

        Having been with T-Mobile since 2004 and having bought all the hot phones, including the Touch Pro2, my prediction is that the HD2 will not be a big seller.

        The reasons:

        1. MS failed to explain its dual-platform strategy that means WinMo will continue to be developed. And the OS on the HD2 will be improved, updated and upgraded.

        2. Instead, the story that got legs and stuck with the media: “The HD2 has the OUTDATED WinMo OS and it WILL NOT be upgradeable to WP7.”

        3. The consuming public does not know about this device. Ask everyone you know if they have heard about the HD2, no one will say they have.

        4. The media (MSM) has said squat about the HD2. This tells you that the phone’s debut is not a big deal, not even with T-Mobile.

        5. And last, but not least, people are posting on here that stores are getting very few HD2s. That tells me it’s not a big launch. Consider, for example, the one post that says there’s a waiting list started but few people are on it. Six days before launch what does that fact alone tell you.

        Check it out yourselves. Go to Google News and search T-Mobile HD2 and click to show you stories in the last couple days. Most of the stories announcing the HD2 say the OS is outdated (its not) and as a negative that the HD2 will not be upgradeable to WP7.

        Many stories say that the HD2 is outdated before it has even debuted.

        Yes, all the stories are nonsense, but that does not matter. What does matter is that the HD2 has been declared DOA before it has even debuted.

        As for me, I was stoked on getting the HD2 but based on a negative experience with T-Mo customer care today I am considering canceling T-Mo and moving to Verizon. (For two months T-Mo keeps “forgetting” to credit my account $80 in over charges, each time they say they took care of it, but they have not so I had to pay it to prevent it erroneously going into collections.)

        Oh well. What’s that saying “It was a nice run while it lasted.”

  • HerbieDerb


    The demand is not for the voice plan. The demand is for a Tmo plan with a hot phone. Tmo will not feel negative effects from you are protesting the HD2 over $10. There is a HUGE demand for this phone. Watch it sell out next week and then again 1st week of April… even with the non-existant marketing campaign. Your loyalty reasoning has some validitiy… but when it comes down to something so silly as $10, they would rather not deal with you… youre already theyre customer. They will be signing many NEW Tmo customers next week and you will simply be left behind. Thats business.

    • Joe Pa

      Sounds like bad business to me…..

      • HerbieDerb

        if youre looking at it from the customer side

      • Joe Pa

        Only side I care about.

  • Bdar

    Speaking of bad business, this is why I am glad this phone doesn’t have android:


    (Although the reveal at the end is someone I like.)

  • phalosopher

    Just got off the phone with tmo.. apparently they are all informed. Spoke with “Heather” who had just got out of a meeting about it.. lol she was damn neare more excited than me.. she basically told me the same thing about pricing and said people could call in on the 24th as early as 7am Pacific Time to order.. she suggested I go to the store bc she could tell I needed asap lol she also peeped my account and said I qualified for the $199.00/2 yr contract..(been with tmo since 2003). I asked how come there wasn’t a preorder and she said she wondered the same thing yet apparently they were tryin to build the initial anticipation of the phone..which they’ve clearly accomplished that.. well that’s all I know for now.. no preorder and I will be @ my local tmo store ready to make it happen!

  • phalosopher

    My bad! 199.99 lol

  • Joe Pa

    The 24th can’t get here soon enough…..

  • phalosopher

    Yea… who u tellin.. never wanted a weekend to go by so fast in my life! Lol weds is gonna take forever to get here…

    • Joe Pa

      At least we got March Madness this weekend….

  • dm

    We want hump day!

  • why is tmobile being such a dick about the phone we already know when its coming out but when you call them to order the phone they keep telling you that they dont know and all that other bull shit it pissing me off that they wanna act this stupid about the phone

  • gargoyle999

    Called my local store, no waiting list. First come first served. Think I’ll get there about 7:30 and scope it out.

    • Joe Pa

      First come first serve besides new line activations who get first dibs according to the couple of stores I’ve talked to. 7:30 is a good time, I was thinking about heading over to my local store at that time too….

  • Phalosopher

    Just called my tmo store..1st come first serve.. they open at 10am.. so im gonna be there right when it opens.

  • cdrobinson83

    yeah, the store that actually seemed to know what they were talking about by me got their demo 2 days ago and said they’ll have them for sale on the 24th. no preorder, no list. i was told they’re getting around 30 phones and it’s first come first serve. they open at 10 am and said they don’t expect a high demand. which doesn’t surprise me seeing the guy who was showing me the phone was doing his best to tell me how his nexus one is a much better phone and that the HD2 doesn’t hold a candle to it. other than that, he was very helpful.

  • Flgirll

    There are a bunch of videos posted on YouTube from the NYC Tmobile event for the HD2. One of the links: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bYw8pQTviYU

  • Flgirll

    FYI – There is full video review of the HD2 on YouTube up! :-)


    • ItsMichaelNotMike

      That’s a very good Wirefly review, one of the best IMHO. Thanks for the “re-link.” (They had a review before, but they tool it down because of what I speculated at the time, T-Mo, as he says, was not ready to reveal the HD2 to the world. LOL, I’d love to see the e-mail they sent to Wirefly, “Take that video down immediately if not sooner… Or else.”)

      Sidenote, he ripped off my joke in my G1 video. :)


  • ItsMichaelNotMike

    So far I have looked at the manual and all the videos of the HD2 in search of a lanyard or strap hole. Have not seen one. :(

    Does anyone know if the HD2 has a hole to insert a lanyard, like there is on the Touch Pro2?

    If not, guess I will have to make a workaround like I did on my G1. (May need to drill a hole into that HD2 metal cover.)


    Why is HTC inconsistent on this. No lanyard hole on the G1, maybe none on the HD2, but they put one on the Touch Pro2.

  • hansmann1

    @ HerbieDerb:

    Thanks for your feedback. Called tmob again today – and what a difference!

    My voice plan stays the same and my new data plan is only $5.00 more then my old BB. Throw in another 5 bucks for 300 SMS – and I am all set!

    • HerbieDerb

      Congrats.. small guy wins! Enjoy the phone.

  • gargoyle999

    How does T-Mo price the data plan? On the website it shows as being $30/month. But my wife just got a TP2 and the data plan was $25 when we activated it not $30 like on the website. Is there a current customer discount or something?

  • Lee

    @ItsMichaelNotMike No there isn’t a hole for a lanyard. I caught a video on youtube how to rig one, That’s how I know.

  • steve

    What the hell is a $18 UPGRADE FEE? That’s a big ass rip off, I’m gonna move my sim card from Iphone to my HD2….where does the “upgrade” come from?

  • phoneking13

    I played with one today at the mall…. A T-Mo kiosk has them in stock already. It’s not a pretty bad phone. The screen was very clear (especially watching movies on…)