Sprint announces Q1 2015 earnings – It’s still ahead of T-Mobile, but only just

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During the earnings call for the final quarter of 2014, John Legere announced that – unofficially – T-Mobile was already ahead of Sprint in total subscriptions. But the official numbers didn’t agree. After T-Mo’s blockbuster quarter, many had assumed that those official numbers would catch up. With the Verizon and AT&T posting disappointing subscriber add numbers, the industry was all but certain that Sprint wouldn’t do much better.

Sadly – thanks to strong prepaid performance – Sprint’s customer base grew. It’s still ahead of T-Mobile. But only by a very small margin.

Sprint, like Verizon and AT&T, posted relatively poor postpaid phone users. It lost 201,000 postpaid phone customers, but gained a total of 211,000 postpaid customers of all kinds. It also added 546,000 prepaid net adds and wholesale net adds of 492,000. In all, the company gained 1.2 million new customers. This means that now – officially – Sprint has a customer base of 57.1 million customers.

If you remember, T-Mobile added a total of 1.8 million net adds bringing it up to 56.8 million total subscribers. As anyone with any basic math skills could tell you, the carrier is still 300,000 customers short of taking 3rd place from its nearest rival. Now, if you believe T-Mo’s rhetoric that Sprint is including customers that have been inactive for up to 6 months, our favorite carrier has been ahead of Ol’ Yeller for months now. But we can only go based on the official, reported numbers. These state that T-Mo still isn’t the 3rd biggest carrier in the U.S. But it won’t be long now…

Source: Sprint

 

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  • MKashi

    Now let’s start going gaga about Sprint’s “ghost” subscribers, you know the users who haven’t recharged in 3 months… the 6 month and 1 year validity recharge users..

    • Mike

      U don’t recharge postpaid inactive lines

      • MKashi

        Well, that’s because the group of customers that John Legere claimed were inactive were PREPAID MVNO. ‘Claimed’ and ‘prepaid’ being the key words here.

  • carol argo

    Sprint probably wished they made as much as t-mobile .

  • Mike

    I wonder why it took Sprint so long to release there Q1 reports? My guess is they were looking up every inactive line they could find since they go back 6 months or sometimes longer I heard. In reality T-Mobile is already No.3 and Sprint knows it .

    • MKashi

      you heard? don’t believe everything you heard :) .. inactive doesn’t mean anything in 6 months when you have 6 month and 1 year recharge validity periods.

      • Mike

        Sprint counts inactive postpaid lines for 6 months so what’s your excuse since no other carrier counts inactive lines past 90 days

        • TK – Indy

          After 120 days on T-mobile a inactive account gets switched to paygo, 60 days later it is cancelled. Equals 6 months, same as Sprint.

        • MKashi

          wrong, the whole point that John Legere mentioned was that Sprint was counting possibly inactive PREPAID MVNO subscribers. And T-mobile does the same for prepaid for at least 150 days or more.

  • Sprinthater

    It’s a load of poop!! I use to work for Sprint, and they change the commission structure where counting tablet as a full unit so associates can heavily promote them. Especially making it 50% off! I bet you 70-80% of those add ons were from tablets alone. They expanded the tablet promotion for 3 months. Screw Sprint and their lies

    • IceMan

      All of the carriers are doing this. I don’t blame them. The investors won’t be happy if the company they’re invested in announced a 300K postpaid subscriber loss.

    • Frankwhitess

      Damm…. You couldn’t have said it any better!!!

  • calvin200

    Sprint customer here—-I don’t care who is 3 or 4. In my humble opinion neither should you.

    • jay

      Totally agree. Sprint customer here as well. I left T-Mobile for them, the reason? Look up zip code 07460. Bask in the map that’s edge. Unusable for me. Anyway my bill won’t go up if they are 3 or 4. Could careless. T-Mobile is amazing in populated areas, but for me I don’t live in those areas. So I have what works for me. I normally get 20’s to 30’s down so I’m happy with sprint. And id have no problem showing screen caps. At the end of the day as a consumer, does it really matter who ranks what? Think about it. Verizon is #1 and they kill everyone with their prices yet people still stay. Why? Because it’s their network and it works for them. So I’m sure T-Mobile will jump ahead and that’s awesome because look at where they were. And maybe down the road I’ll go back. But they have huge edge areas and no service places they need to fix. I don’t hate on anyone, because it’s pointless. If T-Mobile can turn it around why can’t sprint? That’s all I’m saying. And now I’ll wait for the haters to jump all over me. I’m not against T-Mobile. It’s great two smaller carriers are taking on the big 2. That’s what everyone should focus on. Just my opinion though.

      • Joe

        Yes exactly I do tend to sometimes hate on sprint but you are correct we should be happy that the big 2 are getting heat from the little 2. But I do believe that at the end of 2015 t-mobile will have a much superior network compared to sprint.

        • jay

          A year ago I would say I agree with the network comment. But again just my opinion, Sprint has made huge strides where I commute. Mainly LTE everywhere. Plus Sprint as a ton of spectrum as well as their building penetration is terrific. Again i’m just speaking on my experience with Sprint. But what you said can very well be the case.

        • Joe

          Yeah idk its just a guess that it will be better cuz of the 700mhz that they will cover like 170 pops by the end of 2015 (idk if that number is correct its just what I remember off the top of my head). BTW does sprint have LTE on there 800mhz?

        • jay

          “Sprint’s 4G LTE network will eventually run on its 1.9GHz and 800MHz frequency spectrums in addition to Clearwire’s 2.5GHz frequency spectrum. Until now, however, the 800MHz spectrum was used as part of Nextel’s iDEN network, and most of its 4G LTE network is powered by the 1.9GHz spectrum.” This basically is Sprints Spark.

          “Sprint Spark combines 4G FDD(1) -LTE at 800 Megahertz (MHz) and 1.9 Gigahertz (GHz) and TDD(1) -LTE at 2.5GHz spectrum, TDD-LTE technology (2.5GHz), and carrier aggregation in the
          2.5GHz band. These spectrum assets, technology and architecture are designed to deliver a seamless customer experience via tri-band wireless devices. Tri-band devices, named for their ability to accommodate multiple spectrum bands, support active hand-off mode between 800MHz, 1.9GHz and 2.5GHz, providing data session continuity as the device moves between spectrum bands.”

        • Joe

          Ok so at the moment they are starting to deploy LTE on the 800 mhz and using carrier aggregation. Hmm it sounds good but we will have to see at the end of 2015 how the networks compare. Honestly I would like to see both sprint and t-mobile improve so that we can see verizon and att bring there prices down to stay competitive. But deep down inside I still love t-mobile over all the other carriers :D

        • jay

          I agree with you. I would have loved to stay but I just couldn’t justify it. Im waiting for Frankwhitess to jump all over me because apparently I’m a traitor because one service doesn’t work for me and a different one does.

        • Joe

          LOL yeah.

        • Mike

          You can blab all day about what Sprint about sprint network upgrades but how many times have we heard this in the past and it never happens

        • jay

          Hey man all I was doing was answering a question. I don’t believe I once said sprint was the best in the world. Well all know Verizon is. I get people are brand loyal. I prefer dodge over Chevy and ford. But is my little opinion changing anyone’s life? Nope. I get it this is a T-Mobile site, I only know of it because I was a T-Mobile customer. Yes I know sprint has said a lot of things about their network, all I’ve said is I see a huge difference in it since having it now compared to a year ago.

        • Fabian Cortez

          You can blab all day about what Sprint about sprint network upgrades but how many times have we heard this in the past and it never happens

          Lol and Marcelo Claure also said they’re in the final stages of some massive network densification. As in they’re at the vendor selection point.

          Now tell me how that’s considered the final stages? Final stages to me is we’re pulling the trigger tomorrow or we’re almost done with the densification.

          More hopes and dreams… soon.™

        • TK – Indy

          And all is roses and sweetcakes in T-mobile land … T-mobile is such a joke, they will be crashing and burning soon. Their customers are too data hungry. That should be their brand identification, “Come to T-mobile, land of the data hogs”.

        • Fabian Cortez

          And all is roses and sweetcakes in T-mobile land … T-mobile is such a joke, they will be crashing and burning soon. Their customers are too data hungry. That should be their brand identification, “Come to T-mobile, land of the data hogs”.

          It’s comments like the one quoted above that displays your lack of understanding in wireless technology.

          A few congested and inappropriately back haul-provisioned sites and T-Mobile is “crashing and burning soon.” Amusing.

          So where does this quarterly report leave Sprint? Winning?

        • TK – Indy

          #GettingBetterEveryday

        • IceMan

          For some reason, people can’t grasp that Sprint’s in it for the long run, as was T-Mobile when they started their Uncarrier branding. Now that T-Mobile is finally returning on its investment, they deny Sprint is capable.

        • Fabian Cortez

          For some reason, people can’t grasp that Sprint’s in it for the long run, as was T-Mobile when they started their Uncarrier branding. Now that T-Mobile is finally returning on its investment, they deny Sprint is capable.

          I’m going to ignore Dan Hesse and past Sprint for the sake of argument.

          Marcelo Claure has been CEO of Sprint for almost 9 months now and has been making promise after promise.

          Where are the results?

          I’ll tell you where the results are: they’re nonexistent or in the negative. And there are hard facts and numbers to prove this. So continuing to ignore Sprint’s trendy past of losses (both financial and subscriber), why would anyone with a modicum of sense not deny that “Sprint is capable?”

          It’s all hopes and dreams from the select few as usual.

        • TK – Indy

          Results: Port positive for 1st time in 7 years, phone sub losses slowed to a trickle and should go away altogether, network vastly improved according to RootMetrics, will soon pass T-mobile as largest prepaid provider, revolutionary leasing program getting loads of hi-quality customers, the list goes on. #GettingBetterEveryday

        • Fredrick

          Well, TK – Indy, It just matters that as T-Mobile users, they use whatever childish, baby arguing tactics to help them sleep at night. All the while denying T-Mobile’s butt-ugly track-record and non-existence in 98% of the country up until until 2-3 years ago.

          Also, take it easy with that huffy puffy little lad… Fabian doesn’t deserve much food if any. He shouldn’t get dessert unless he eats his vegetables (facts) ;-)

        • thepanttherlady

          If you can’t contribute to the conversation/topic at hand without personally attacking another poster then do us all a favor and don’t.

        • Fabian Cortez

          FYI: That’s Mr. Paul.

        • Fabian Cortez

          Results: Port positive for 1st time in 7 years,

          Yet they still lost valuable postpaid phone subs.

          phone sub losses slowed to a trickle and should go away altogether,

          Proof?

          Because between this quarter and last quarter, there was only a difference of 4,000 subs. So technically, the difference (4,000) can be considered a trickle, but not the total sub. loss (201,000).

          network vastly improved according to RootMetrics

          That’s one source. Meanwhile, people are speaking with their wallets in volumes.

          will soon pass T-mobile as largest prepaid provider

          That’s not something to be too proud about when you’re losing valuable postpaid phone subs. and your prepaid brands aren’t even branded as “Sprint.” There’s a clear disconnect with the tarnished Sprint brand.

          revolutionary leasing program getting loads of hi-quality customers

          Sprint talking points. Also, that’s not very revolutionary and on the contrary, high-quality customers would prefer to buy and not lease a phone. Phone leasing attracts low-quality subs. with high-end phones at low monthly payments

        • IceMan

          Well, he gave me a free year of Sprint service for my new line on a Legacy plan, he’s shifted prioritization in network upgrades (Sprint’s ranked 1st/second in numerous markets already tested.), and he’s managed to lower churn rate for Sprint to under 2%. Not to mention, since he took over, Sprint’s consistently lost less postpaid phone subscribers each quarter. The other thing he’s done is sending me a free AC66U router, converted my plan to unlimited minutes from the family share 1500 (for free), and he’s enabled international roaming for each of my lines for free.

          Sure, Sprint’s still got more work to do, but they’re definitely making progress. The only argument most people have against Sprint is in reference to the pre-Marcelo era.

        • Fabian Cortez

          ell, he gave me a free year of Sprint service for my new line on a Legacy plan,

          Congratulations. You have contributed to their financial loss.

          he’s shifted prioritization in network upgrades (Sprint’s ranked 1st/second in numerous markets already tested.),

          You better hope Sprint doesn’t get VoLTE anytime soon if you intend on relying on those RootMetrics scores. Unforuntately, RootMetrics scores don’t really translate into real-world experiences as evidenced by even some of your own people who love Sprint but were forced to switch. Oh and the millions going to T-Mobile.

          and he’s managed to lower churn rate for Sprint to under 2%.

          I take back what I said before: The CYBIH promotion is indeed working by locking people in. Unfortunately, more people are leaving Sprint than coming in which lead to the loss of 201,000 postpaid phone subscribers.

          Also, un-carrier 9.0 with the offer to buy out EIP and leases was launched at the end of the quarter. Once that word goes out, I have a feeling that the Q2 results won’t be so kind as people will be able to free themselves once again.

          Not to mention, since he took over, Sprint’s consistently lost less postpaid phone subscribers each quarter.

          A difference of 4,000 postpaid phone subs. (205,000 last quarter vs. 201,000 this quarter) isn’t much to champion about. Meanwhile, the first quarter (Q2 2013) after un-carrier 1.0 (March 26, 2013) was launched, T-Mobile added 685,000 postpaid phones. And that was with 157 million POPs of LTE at the end of the quarter.

          Now tell me something doesn’t stink here.

          He’s also sending me a free AC66U router,

          Not original and adding more to their financial losses.

          and he’s enabled international roaming for each of my lines for free.

          Another non original move that doesn’t even hold a candle to the original. What’s 16 random countries at 64 kbps to 120+ countries at 128 kbps?

          You guys are really reaching now.

          Under Hesse, I don’t think this would have happened.

          I’m inclined to believe that’s true.

          Sure, Sprint’s still got more work to do, but they’re definitely making progress. The only argument most people have against Sprint is in reference to the pre-Marcelo era.

          No, people are comparing them to their current status and current and/or recent promises and inadequate responses/reactions to T-Mobile’s offerings.

          To this day, they still charge overages, offer contracts, charge activation fees, and can’t compete technologically (VoLTE, simultaneous voice and data, carrier aggregation, etc.) with the rest of the industry.

        • UMA_Fan

          Sprint built its identity around unlimited. People go to them and find out the network sucks and port out. Tmobile doesn’t.

          Remember for every tmobile customer that goes to Sprint three join tmobile FROM sprint

        • Jay J. Blanco

          Yes 5mhz lol
          no vo-lte

      • Frankwhitess

        O You Dammm Rite I am going to Jump over over you!!! Traitor!!!… Just bare with me, am still writing and tuning what I am going to write to you -_-

      • dontsh00tmesanta

        Agreed its not for everyone. I used to live in an edge area only so i had att then sprint. Then I moved into the city so tmobile came to me

  • Fritz

    I think TMo needs to bump up its data offerings just a bit. $50/m Simple choice w 3-5GB LTE or $50/m simply prepaid with 5-7GB of LTE would deff be way better when competing against cricket wireless’s insane offerings and sprints cheap unlimited plan. People will be willing to tolerate more b.s if the price is right (apparently 1.2mil)

    • IceMan

      T-Mobile’s pricing I think is fine. They’re already the fastest growing carrier and they’re profitable. They should keep doing what they’re doing for now.

      • Joe

        Yeah there prices are perfect so they can return a profit and make their network more competitive so that ppl don’t have to complain about not having coverage.

      • Marcus Christopher McFann

        amen. I’d like to see the MetroPCS brand swallowed and unified with Tmo. Love their direction.

      • Fritz

        You think so? i still feel like its a little lackluster. Not by much but still just a lil bit for anyone that actually uses any of the popular media apps constantly (fb,tumblr,youtube,pininterest, ect)

  • TK – Indy

    T-mobile $7.8 billion revenue, Sprint $8.3 billion revenue. It is really getting close.

    • Joe

      Yeah but sprint spends way more money and are not returning a prophet.

      • donnybee

        I’m pretty sure T-Mobile still isn’t returning a profit yet either. I could be wrong though.. I know it was getting there, but that was a problem for them.

        • Joe

          I do believe they did return a small profit the last two quarters but I may be wrong.

        • TK – Indy

          Sprint lost $224 million, T-mobile lost $151 million.

        • Joe

          O ok still t-mobile is doing much better financially than sprint.

        • TK – Indy

          Not really, Sprint has Softbank, T-mobile has no one.

        • T. Boone P.

          You really this clueless? Ever heard of DT in Germany? In any case not sure what that has to do with “doing” better financially? Softbank basically owns the biggest loser in US Telecom of the majors.

        • TK – Indy

          DT won’t be contributing any capital to T-mobile, Softbank will continue to invest in Sprint if necessary.

        • Frankwhitess

          Very true……..

        • T. Boone P.

          And that’s your definition of Sprint doing financially better? Let me guess, you also think the Cleveland Browns and NY Knicks are great teams because they have owners with deep pockets despite their losing track records. Damn you are a simpleton.

        • Fabian Cortez

          DT won’t be contributing any capital to T-mobile, Softbank will continue to invest in Sprint if necessary.

          You have zero proof of either. You’re doing nothing but speculating at this point.

        • Threadbare Mobile

          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hWjtgMNop0I (12 minute mark)

          It goes like:

          With all the transformation we are doing in Europe and Germany, … they have to be in the position to self-fund their business in the US.

        • gmo8492

          That’s the only thing he does, make broad assumptions and pass them off as “facts”. Why he keeps coming here is beyond me.

        • Frankwhitess

          SoftBank should have invested in T Mobile…. Investing in Sprint will make SoftBank change there name to BrokeBank….. Sprint is Garbage..

        • TK – Indy

          In Indiana and many other places, it is T-mobile that is garbage.

        • Frankwhitess

          Who lives in Indiana ??? Listen, if you live out there with bambi and yogi bear, I seriously feel bad for you.. Can’t expect much from a area that has 1 Chinese restaurant in a 900 mile radius… :(

        • TK – Indy

          1.2 million in Indianapolis MSA, and T-mobile LTE is 4-6 mbps peak, and non-existent in 85% of state.

        • gmo8492

          Lol

        • IceMan

          I can understand how you’d pity people living outside a metro area seeing as you’re a T-Mobile customer.

        • Fabian Cortez

          I can understand how you’d pity people living outside a metro area seeing as you’re a T-Mobile customer.

          While his comment wasn’t very nice and rather ignorant, I would consider 1.2 million people to be a metro area.

        • Fabian Cortez

          Not really, Sprint has Softbank, T-mobile has no one.

          That’s also not true.

          SoftBank isn’t too happy with Sprint whereas DT is either neutral or feeling positive about T-Mobile based upon their EOY 2014 results.

        • TK – Indy

          Of course they are not happy. They will come up with some cash, or at least guarantees for some borrowings if necessary. DT has no money to help out.

        • Fabian Cortez

          Of course they are not happy. They will come up with some cash, or at least guarantees for some borrowings if necessary. DT has no money to help out.

          I have no doubt that SoftBank will secure (i.e. provide some more funds) their investment. However, one cannot be ignorant to the fact that with more money comes more changeups/conditions.

        • Joe

          O yeah I was about to say for not having any real financial backing they r doing better. And even without any I still think they are doing better.

        • Willie D

          Did you forget that a controlling % of TMobile/MetroPCS is owned by Deutsche Telekom?

        • Jay J. Blanco

          Sprint has DT, no one should forget that

        • UMA_Fan

          SoftBank has owned Sprint for over two years now. Everyone thought they would throw billions in US but they are not giving a dime to reinvigorate Sprint. The Sprint we see today would be the Sprint that existed whether SoftBank bought them or not.

          SoftBank bet on the wrong horse in the race to enter the U.S. market.

        • Fabian Cortez

          I see the trolls are out in full force today.

          Sprint lost $224 million, T-mobile lost $151 million.

          That’s not true. T-Mobile posted a loss of $63 million.

        • Joe

          And they only lost due to data stash which by the end of the year should reavers in to prophets I believe.

        • Fabian Cortez

          And they only lost due to data stash which by the end of the year should reavers in to prophets I believe.

          Correct. Which is similar to January 2014 when they launched contract freedom. They said the same thing where gaining these prime postpaid phone users would cost some money upfront but would be rewarding later on. Which is exactly what happened.

        • TK – Indy

          Explain how you can lose money with data stash? No cash changing hands there.

        • Fabian Cortez

          Explain how you can lose money with data stash? No cash changing hands there.

          Aren’t you the degree’d accountant?

          Ctrl + F “Data Stash”

          http://newsroom.t-mobile.com/media-kits/q1-2015-earnings.htm

        • TK – Indy

          You are correct, I looked at 2014, not 2015.

      • Platinum123

        Easter’s over :)

  • Ordeith

    Everyone seems to be net adding in the millions. Where are all these people coming from? Surely there weren’t that many people that still didn’t have cell coverage of any kind in 2015.

    • donnybee

      I was wondering the same thing..

      Verizon lost postpaid, AT&T lost postpaid, but those only accounted for around 500k subs. So, if T-Mobile is posting such huge adds, the only other national carrier to take from is Sprint. Seems odd to me that Sprint is still adding in some way. I guess maybe regional carriers got drained?

    • Fritz

      There are a lot of people in the USA without cellphones you know. And there are people without smartphones too, i know 3 people that still have flip phones and refuse to get a smartphone. Ages 49,26,23. So this doesn’t surprise me in the slightest. People just assume everyone cares about technology.

    • IceMan

      Tablets. All of the carriers are selling tablets at incredibly cheap rates to boost subscriber numbers. Each carrier lost phone subscribers except T-Mobile. Surprisingly, AT&T lost more than Sprint.

  • tony

    sprint is counting existing customers with tablets to offset pospaid subscriber losses.

    • MKashi

      yes, so does everyone else. Total subscriber base includes all – postpaid, prepaid, tablets, MVNO. If one customer has 5 active lines in his name, all operators count it as 5 active subscribers.

  • Derek

    Let me ask those who are Sprint/Verizon customers. Don’t you feel limited and trapped into the crap phones that these networks force you to buy because they use outdated old technology (CDMA). I love being able to go to my local Microsoft store / Apple store / Radioshack / ebay / amazon / *insert favorite store here* / etc… and being able to buy unlocked GSM phones anytime I want to switch up to somthing new. Not to mention you can also buy phones from oversees that you can’t get in America (firefox phone / MIUI phones).
    And because they are GSM phones, they are easy to resell. I don’t know how you would even resell a CDMA phone.

    • TK – Indy

      Sprint has any phone that I might want. The first name of my phone is always Nexus.

    • IceMan

      As a Sprint customer, I don’t see much of a difference. The world is converting to LTE, and if I buy a phone that’s internationally unlocked, I’m still limited by what LTE bands it supports. For example, I may be able to purchase a Sony Z3c for T-Mobile, but it will not be able to access B12. The hardware does not support it. The same limitations apply on all carriers, regardless of CDMA or GSM. I don’t feel trapped, because it occurs to everyone, everywhere (in the US.)

      • Fabian Cortez

        The phone has band 17 (AT&T).

        With AT&T agreeing to using Band 12, most new phones (apart from the Droid line) that come to this country will support Band 12 as AT&T always gets the best phones.

    • Omar Boyer

      It may be “outdated” cdma but at least it works to call when you travel in literally the middle of nowhere .I cant tell you how many times my friend on verizon have been able to talk in many places tmobiles newer hspa is nowhere to be found. I can literally be walking around trying to get a signal on tmobile while verizon has solid signal. And btw i tried both sprint and verizon before,sprints cdma does SUCK call quality ,txt messaging all messed up etc ,not verizons i was surprised when i borrowed a friends verizon phone i had no ISSUES at all solid signal in buildings,good call quality no problems with txt it may ne cdma but it works great not sprint ,sprint was real bad.

      • Melissa Cardenas

        Agree omar i bet those who say verizon sucks etc ..havent even tried it in the first place.. Theres no denying verizon works and it works great even tho its cdma it has the best coverage even better than att etc…Its xlte gets speeds as fast as tmobiles lte in some places , but its only problem is its not unlimited data and its SUPER expensive compared to tmobile. And also like that other guy said u cant bring in your own gsm phone you gotta use there verizon branded phones.. I had em but couldnt pay alot so im with tmobile.. Signal is not the greatest on tmobile here in LA like it was on verizon but hey im paying a lot less n have unlimited data..

        • Joe

          Yeah I know when ppl say that verizon suks I think like do you even know wtf you’re talking about like I have not used it myself but I know that with them coverage is amazing LTE speeds are not as fast as t-mobile but they’re not really much slower just marginally slower and to get that well you need to pay a lot in my opinion too much.

        • Acdc1a

          I am one who has used Verizon. While their network was fine for me it was much more expensive and not nearly as fast as T-Mobile in my area. The coverage hole by the airport from 10 years ago still hasn’t been filled either.

        • marvin bolden

          I will take cdma any day

    • Platinum123

      CDMA technology is neither outdated nor old, just minority, which is not the same thing. In fact, as a technology, CDMA is younger and more advanced than GSM, so much so that GSM (2G) evolved into WCDMA (3G) by pretty much cloning most technical aspects of CDMA.
      Moreover, all CDMA phones sold in the last several years also support GSM and HSPA, but the reverse is not true.

  • Rob H.

    The gap has closed in even more.

  • Raiterio Patterson

    Why can’t T-Mobile buy Virgin Mobile like they did with Metro PCS? That’s where Sprint gets most of its subscribers base from: Prepaid. I used to have VM in the early 2000s. The phones are a lot better but the service in NC is poo.

    • Fabian Cortez

      Sprint seems to be getting most of their prepaid subscribers from Boost Mobile. Also, with how successful Boost Mobile is, I doubt Sprint would be willing to sell them and lose the subscriber numbers.

      • Raiterio Patterson

        You got a point there. I know several people who use Boost Mobile, my teenage sister plus some family members

    • jay

      I believe Sprint owns Virgin Mobile

      • Raiterio Patterson

        Correct. I want T-Mobile to buy Virgin Mobile from Sprint.

  • jay

    I have scrolled and read everyone’s comments. Yes we all get it, Tmobile is the only company that could go from sucking to being amazing. Its not possible for any other company in the world, so Sprint should just shut down. Holy crap its like a bunch of preschool kids saying whose a better superhero. I have Sprint but left Tmobile for them. Ive explained why in previous posts so no point in repeating. Hey guess what!?! Tmobile sucks outside of populated cities, drive down the east coast. Enjoy edge, hell drive through northern NJ into ny state. Go ahead check their coverage maps. And everyone can say Tmobile has DT. They already said they are not putting in anymore money, google it you’ll see it. Sprint is far from perfect, but i don’t hear their ceo saying they are the greatest. Oh and final thought…. Where would Tmobile be if it weren’t for the failed merger with ATT? Exactly gone or barely being mentioned. If someone has an opinion that doesn’t mean they should be bashed. I was called a Traitor because Tmobile didn’t work for me where i live.. HAHA

    • TK – Indy

      Good points, without AT&T billions and Verizon’s cast-off 700 mhz, T-mobile would still be tiny. I don’t see another prince coming to rescue the princess from the tower, so I would say that it is all downhill from here.

      • jay

        Well as a Sprint customer it works for me.. Just amazing the bashing you get here. haha I don’t have a crystal ball, so who knows whats going to happen. But Sprint now for me has made leaps forward with service here.

      • jay

        Oh don’t forget they bought Metro PCS so its not like those people had a choice. They inherited them

      • Fabian Cortez

        without AT&T billions

        You have zero evidence as to how much T-Mobile USA received from DT after the breakup.

        and Verizon’s cast-off 700 mhz,

        And “cast-off 700 mhz [sic],” that’s some quality low band spectrum that will be included in every single phone that AT&T sells going forward. I cannot quite say the same for SMR.

        T-mobile would still be tiny.

        Unlike Sprint, T-Mobile is seeing some genuine organic growth. How genuine you ask? Oh I don’t know, capturing 100% share of the entire industry’s postpaid phone adds.

        What about Sprint and their 2004 (end of 2004) acquisition of Nextel? Oh and the fact that they sat on that SMR (800 MHz) spectrum for a good decade? What about the 15.3 million subscribers they added via this merger?

        Sprint + Nextel combined netted them ~40 million subscribers, which put them close to both AT&T (46 million) and Verizon (42 million) at the time (end of 2014).

        Now let’s look at today, 2015, where both AT&T and Verizon are more than double the size of Sprint. And Sprint has barely deployed their low band spectrum (I don’t want to hear about the issues as they have had 10 years to mitigate the problem) and is hovering at ~57 million subs. while losing customers and money quarter after quarter. So if we want to truly keep things in context, Sprint is “tiny.”

        I don’t see another prince coming to rescue the princess from the tower, so I would say that it is all downhill from here.

        The only carrier that needs a “another prince” (SoftBank being the first time around) is Sprint, as evidenced by this yet another lousy quarter.

        But yes, everything they’re doing is great. Adding all of that wholesale and prepaid is clearly [not] paying the bills.

        • IceMan

          Sprint’s B26 is deployed in a ton of areas, and I’ve seen CDMA on SMR pretty much everywhere I’ve been lately. Sprint’s phones will support T-Mobile’s frequencies, so the argument about what bands AT&T’s phone support are moot.
          T-Mobile wouldn’t have a chance to come back if it weren’t for the failed AT&T purchase. They gained a lot of spectrum and T-Mobile has wideband today in many markets as a result.
          The important thing to remember is that we want Sprint and T-Mobile to grow.

        • Fabian Cortez

          Sprint’s B26 is deployed in a ton of areas, and I’ve seen CDMA on SMR pretty much everywhere I’ve been lately.

          You live in Florida. There are no restrictions (IBEZ) in your part as far as I know.

          Sprint’s phones will support T-Mobile’s frequencies, so the argument about what bands AT&T’s phone support are moot.

          No, it’s not moot. But thank you for supporting my point by reminding myself and others to Sprint’s commitment to adding Band 12 to “a majority” of their phones. That makes Band 12 even less of a “cast-off.”

          T-Mobile wouldn’t have a chance to come back if it weren’t for the failed AT&T purchase. They gained a lot of spectrum and T-Mobile has wideband today in many markets as a result.

          You seem so sure about yourself there. What makes you think some other company wouldn’t have invested in them like SoftBank did for Sprint? While they were losing subs., they were still turning a profit. Unlike Sprint who is losing subs. and losing money. Might I also add that T-Mobile didn’t have the iPhone and Sprint does?

          The important thing to remember is that we want Sprint and T-Mobile to grow.

          Both need to grow by picking away at the twin bells. Unfortunately, that’s not happening.

        • marvin bolden

          U are right ice man i took a trip to little Rock Ark i live in Memphis Tn. 90%of the time while i was on i-40 i was on band 26 1×800 the other 10%i was on band 25 1900mhz so band 26 is deployed 70%of the country

        • UMA_Fan

          They could have still merged with metro and cricket without the AT&T spectrum.

    • Fabian Cortez

      So you’re going to ignore their 2G-to-LTE upgrade scheduled to be complete by mid 2015?

      • Fredrick

        Give it a rest. Only 7 more weeks when T-Mobile obviously (no kid, I’m not trolling) won’t be completely done with LTE upgrades, then what will your excuse be?

        And you’re confident ALL of what they claim for EOY 2015 will be done also, right?

        How long have you worked for T-Mobile?

        • Fabian Cortez

          Back again Mr. Paul/Yeah/Yawn/Frederick/Truth?

          Your obsession with me is toxic. Enlighten us all to how the “banned” page looks like when you log in.

          Please don’t reply to me again.

        • Fredrick

          Wow, you had the comment removed fast. How many accounts do you operate exactly?

        • thepanttherlady

          He didn’t have them removed, I did. I’ve already warned you. This is the last one. If you cannot contribute to the conversation constructively then don’t.

        • Fredrick

          I get it. However, him calling me 5 different people and then telling me I have “a toxic obsession” with me is a worthy contribution?

        • Chad Dalton

          Need a tissue? Lets discuss the topic at hand!

        • Android_God

          I think you need to pass out Midol to SEVERAL posters.

        • thepanttherlady

          For once, I actually agree with you. Good grief!

        • Android_God

          #WINNING

        • mreveryphone

          Me too! This thread is full of babies that have no idea how gruelling the work is to upgrade towers etc… I bet if they spent a day doing that work they’d have a new respect for network upgrade time frames and enjoy the improved we have now…

        • Chad Dalton

          I thought they moved their deadline to years end? hmmm i may be missing something!

        • Fabian Cortez

          I thought they moved their deadline to years end? hmmm i may be missing something!

          280 million POPs by mid-2015 and 300 million POPs by EOY 2015.

          Nothing has changed and they made it clear that they are right on track [and maybe even ahead of schedule].

        • Chad Dalton

          Thanks man for the clarification!

      • jay

        Oh yeah when did they say that was happening? What like a year ago? Sorry but stating facts northern nj Sussex county has not seen a flicker. Go check their coverage map on their website. I’m stating facts, if it happens awesome but I couldn’t wait for it to happen.

        • Fredrick

          Oh, and before the bogus “EOY 2014 and Mid-year 2015” excuse, wasn’t it supposed to be EOY 2014?

          Then EOY 2015 when it’s only metro and a handful of suburban areas that see most if actually all of upgrades complete, what will it be then? EOY 2016? Or 2026? They talk about Sprint, but NV will end up taking 3 and a half years when done in a few months.

          It’s been almost eight (8) years since T-Mobile announcing their initial 3G upgrade plans

          “The company began selling its first 3G-capable phone, the Nokia 6263, in November 2007 and announced in February 2008 that its 3G network would finally be activated “within the next few months””

          Over four (4) years since they announcing they’d finish upgrading the 3G.

          “The company has begun rolling out its HSPA+ capabilities throughout its cellular network, planning to complete an upgrade of the entire network by the end of 2010”

          With admitted plans for upgrading the remaining 2G areas to if not 3G than LTE by end of 2015 making it five (5) years.

          We like to forget about that; T-Mobile’s HORRIBLE track record.

        • jay

          Amen

        • dtam

          I think you need to separate the track record of Tmobile before Legere and after Legere (Sept 2012). Their more recent network build outs have actually been ahead of schedule.

        • Fabian Cortez

          Oh yeah when did they say that was happening? What like a year ago? Sorry but stating facts northern nj Sussex county has not seen a flicker. Go check their coverage map on their website. I’m stating facts, if it happens awesome but I couldn’t wait for it to happen.

          T-Mobile set the goal to expand LTE to their entire 2G/EDGE network (i.e. convert all of their remaining 2G EDGE sites) by mid-2015 back in March of 2014.

          No one is asking you to wait or hope. That’s for Sprint’s loyal subjects.

          You have to go with the carrier that works best for you.

        • jay

          I only say that because i was called a traitor for leaving to go to Sprint. Id be with Verizon if they weren’t so expensive

        • Fabian Cortez

          Verizon has a decent $60 prepaid plan.

        • Chad Dalton

          dude, you owe nothing to us here…select service that best suit your needs…when T-mobile gets your neck of the woods booming, come back and join us!

      • Jay J. Blanco

        and the never ending network vision

        • Frankwhitess

          Hey Genius…. Network Vision is Sprint never ending story… I think instead of you trying to look like Fabulous the rapper, you need to read more…

          T mobile doesn’t make bs vision fantasy story like sprint… T Mobile makes it happen.. Period!!! Don’t be mad fabulous because T Mobile is putting it on Sprint ;)

        • Android_God

          I would say YOU need to read more about the proper use of grammar and the English language.

        • Frankwhitess

          So you was a t mobile customer for 7 years and went back to Verizon…. That explains your anger.. Sorry man.. I too would be upset and mad at the world if I had to live off WiFi and was limited to just 6 gigs a months. I can see how your life can suck dealing with issues like that.

          I burn 6 gigs with in the first 4 days of my billing cycle.. And that’s not me even warming up lol ;)

          Fabulous you need to move to the Real world… There is a reason why T Mobile doesn’t want to invest in your area… Population of 112 is not worth it.. Actually I find it impressive that a amount of that many people can live in the woods ;)

        • Android_God

          Your extremely poor grammar probably explains why you can’t afford home internet so you have to misuse your T Mobile service.

        • Android_God

          I’m actually weeping after rereading your nonsense. Please please please go back and finish junior high!

        • Frankwhitess

          Lol… Your silly!

        • Christopher Van Gaasbeek

          You can get a free WiFi thing for your cabins. T-Mobile is trying to get y’all out there. In the city it is well worth to have shitty coverage in the boondocks. To be able to blast through 5 or more gigs a day. Plus 5 gig hot spot. Love it. I chrome cast mirror…

    • iMotoXperiaGalaxy

      T-Mobile fanboys are the lamest! Think about it, they represent a pink color (lol). 15 years in 4th place? I’ll cry too if I didn’t have a life.

      Haha!

      • Frankwhitess

        Heyyy!!! It’s T Mobile Biggest Fan!!!! Dude… You love your Verizon company that bags you every month for a retarded amount ,… Yet you monitor T Mobile network, follow up with all the updates and always act like a massive Hater…….

        You sure you are not in love with T Mobile ?? Wait… Do you live in the forest with bambi and yogi bear?? Are you upset because T Mobile doesn’t have service in your forest so you have to settle with Verizon? Is that the case??? Dam… It makes sense now..

        • Android_God

          I sense a butthurt strongly in this one.

        • Frankwhitess

          Lmao…. Okay.. I see.. Verizon Tag team… How’s that $150 a month phone bill for one line, 3 gig plan coming along ??

        • Android_God

          I’ve been a T-Mobile customer for 7 years.

      • Android_God

        Ya there are some posters here who CLEARLY need to get laid.

      • NinoBr0wn

        But you’re poking fun on an internet forum. Living the dream.

      • Christopher Van Gaasbeek

        A hot chick in pink bro… Duh

    • IamTwone

      what you talking about NJ i live in central/northern NJ, and had great service. Left sprint 2 yrs ago after being with them over 10 yrs. I even recently activated a nexus 5 on sprint just so i could get a 732-423 # and the data speeds was still slow no higher then 5mbps average around 2mbps on lte. In union county area, where my tmobile phone averages around 20-30mbps and gotten as high as 69mbps. So coming from a former sprint fanboy, i waited many yrs for sprint to have decent lte in NJ but left when they started picking and choosing which phones could go on what plans like sero.

      • jay

        I’m confused, and I’m not being a jerk, but what do you mean what am i talking about? Stockholm NJ, straight up to Port Jervis is pretty much straight edge or No service with Tmobile. Even Warwick Ny where the drive in movie theater is, not very good. So thats why I switched to sprint, where I live and Travel I needed to have coverage. And I get no one will believe me, but Sprint in Oak Ridge 07438 I’m pulling down 25. Tmobile I wouldn’t have service in my parents house. Now having said that, Tmobile does completely blow away everyone with speed. (when you have service) I was in brooklyn NY when i had Tmobile. I was pulling 76 down. It blew my mind, but where I travel and live, I do not live in city areas so I couldn’t justify staying. Doesnt mean I think Tmobile sucks, not even close, just Sprint has better coverage for me. Thats all, I really do hope that Sprint and Tmobile grow and continue to put pressure on Verizon and At&t. Its better for the consumer. I think each service provider (Tmobile and Sprint) have their purpose. Each are affordable and have unlimited data. They continue to work on their coverage and you’ll see the big two start to really lose customers. They are way to arrogant, So thats really all I’m saying, I’m rooting for both companies, but I’m just one guy and thats just my opinion.

  • guest

    are all sprint phones unlocked now because i want to get the g flex 2 from them since t mobile isn’t carrying it this year

    • TK – Indy

      Postpaid phones are unlocked when they are paid for if installment or straight buy, or at end of contract if subsidized. Prepaid has to be in service for 1 year to be unlocked.

  • Bryan Pizzuti

    Actually it’s going to be very long, I imagine Sprint won’t “lose” a single customer for a long time now..they’ll simply be “idle” or “inactive” but still count.

    • IceMan

      If that was the case, Sprint wouldn’t have mentioned the 201K phone postpaid losses.

      • Bryan Pizzuti

        Which I bet they’re still counting towards their total anyway.

      • Medion

        Yet want counted as a loss. Tidy number was ignored when calculating their gains.

        They’re using funny math.

      • Stefan Naumowicz

        Postpaid can’t be counted if its dormant, unless its an account that has been suspended for a very short time. The account gets closed by the customer so that they stop getting billed, or it gets automatically closed and put into collections if its not being paid. For prepaid and wholesale the account doesn’t get closed (except when the number gets ported), the user just stops refilling the account and the carrier decides how long to go before officially closing the account. Simply put, there’s not as much grey area on postpaid accounts.

  • TK – Indy

    I don’t see how accruing a tiny liability for unused data could have a material impact. Sounds creative.

    • TK – Indy

      They are saying that they accrued 2% of their service revenue for unused data. That sounds bogus, when not many have a stash.

      • Fabian Cortez

        They are saying that they accrued 2% of their service revenue for unused data. That sounds bogus, when not many have a stash.

        How do you know who and who doesn’t have Data Stash? Wouldn’t T-Mobile be the ones in the know?

        They made a similar proclamation with respect to contract freedom and it panned out. There’s no reason to assume that it won’t pan out again. Nor is there reason to not believe them.

    • Mike

      They figure it using a calculation based on how many people that run out of data that may have upgraded their plan as opposed to those that are using the data stash. Its based on lost possible data upgrades

  • Luis Espinal

    How many of that 57.1 million are free plan FreedomPop users, apparently its around 400k sub’s..so I guess they still win for third, even though they have to give away to half a million people service, for free. Oh and I would love to know how many millions are lifeline phones!

  • Medion

    Let’s see here.

    211,000 (gain) + 546,000 (gain) + 492,000 (gain) – 201,000 (loss) = 1,048,000

    You only get 1.2 million net adds (1,249,000 exactly) if you don’t count the losses!

    Sorry, it’s hard to take Sprint’s numbers seriously when even the posts numbers that they use don’t add up.

  • mingkee

    Am I missing something?
    Sprint has “bill cut in half” promo, hasn’t it?

    • Frankwhitess

      Listen,… Sprint can give free service… Example: freedom pop… Yet no one can careless… Sprint is horrible…

      • TK – Indy

        No, T-mobile still losing, and it now looks like they will never catch Sprint, which makes sense with the terrible T-mobile coverage. #SorrierNotSorrier

        • Chris

          Right, cause T-mobile will suddenly stop getting new customers in the next few months.

          They still got a positive net add last quarter and a pretty big one as well.

        • Mike

          T-mobile has more active lines then Sprint . Sprint inactive lines that they count gave them a edge on charts. In reality T-Mobile is the healthier company and is #3 and by next quarter things will get even more better at tmobile

        • TK – Indy

          T-mobile trails Sprint in both subscribers and revenue, T-mobile is number 4 to stay – get over it. #RealityStinks

  • iMotoXperiaGalaxy

    The butthurt is strong here…

    Haha!

    • Android_God

      No doubt!! There are A TON of posters here who take this just way way too personally. It’s as if Sprint came to their trailers and took a poo poo on their shag carpet!

    • Android_God

      No doubt!! There are A TON of posters here who take this just way way too personally. It’s as if Sprint came to their trailers and took a poo poo on their shag carpet!

      • Frankwhitess

        Lol….. [Mod edit…no need for name calling]

        Okay, first, t mobile customers are mostly located in cities… T Mobile barely has service in the forest which is clearly where you are from.. It’s Clear that you don’t have t mobile because you live in the forest…. Clearly why you have Verizon ;)…. Soo no trailers in the city silly… Now in the forest that you live ,… I bet money your find them there ;)

        • Android_God

          “I bet money your find them there” Does the city you live in NOT have proper English courses?

  • gperez

    IDK who’s 1,2,3,4 as long I get to save money and the coverage is decent, so far TMO is the real deal for that, I’d been on every network

    • WD

      You don’t know who’s 1, 2, 3, 4 as long as you get to save money??? You mean: I don’t care, yes?

      • gperez

        Right, the K sound it stronger but forgot IDK means I don’t know LOL

        • mingkee

          Perhaps “I don’t see”….

      • Android_God

        WTF is wrong with you? Ease back from the edge there pal!

      • Mike Palomba

        Idc means I don’t care

  • mingkee

    Regardless the rank, T-Mobile customer count has increased a whopping 75% compared 4 years ago.
    Sprint is very desperate to make up number to keep #3, but just don’t make fraud.

  • Android_God

    May I recommend Midol for the severe PMS many of you seem to be experiencing over this issue? All signs point to TMobile overtaking Sprint next quarter so why all the butthurt?

    Not to mention the fact that who F’n cares anyway? It must be a sense of entitlement. Seek therapy.

    • Frankwhitess

      Because you Verizon lovers can’t see a under dog rise… Eventually t mobile will be number.. The area that start to cover, the more customers t mobile will continue to gain..

      • Android_God

        I’ve been a TMobile customer for 7 years.

        • wirelessnet2

          ive been one for 11 years :)

        • mingkee

          I have been for almost 12 years.

        • Android_God

          Ha!

        • Chad Dalton

          1 year and 4 months…so i’m cool too!

        • zo zo1`

          Almost 20 years if you count the voicestream days :)

        • Christopher Olson

          I was on voice stream back in those days

        • Android_God

          Haha!

        • gmo8492

          9 years and counting.

        • Mike

          I’ve been a customer going back to the VoiceStream Wireless days.

        • Christopher Van Gaasbeek

          15

  • TK – Indy

    T-mobile is the worst. always was, always will be.

  • Lou Gardella

    Sprint is losing (giving up on) 1.7 million WiMax customers by Nov 6, 2015. This will cost them about 80 million a month. They said to call for your options. Sprint then tells you that you need “to find another provider”. OMG, really? One of the top ten business blunders of all time.

    • TK – Indy

      Sounds like data hogs that belong on T-mobile anyway. #DataHogsRUs

      • Frankwhitess

        Don’t be mad because you can’t use more than 6 gig a month… It’s not our fault we can burn 80 gigs in a month and not sweat it. #verizon-customers-Are-fools

        • Christopher Van Gaasbeek

          I got like over a hundred one month. Must have been snow on the ground. lil

    • marvin bolden

      U are wrong. Those people That still have wimax devices can come in the store and get an upgrade to a lte device

      • Frankwhitess

        I agree with you!!! WiMAX users,… You can Come into any T Mobile Store and pick up a newer device & Witness True 4G LTE!!!! You don’t have to Seattle for the weak network sprint has…

        • marvin bolden

          U think those little pocks of 700mhz that tmob bought think it’s. Going to save them…….NOTTTTT tmnob sold themselves out and they played right into verizon hands and others they wanted to get rid of some 700 so the can be better off getting more hands on that sweet 600mhz

      • Lou Gardella

        I have 17 clear modems. I asked what my options are (their email) and was told to find another provider.

    • calvin200

      Please show me your source. I doubt this is company policy.

      • Lou Gardella

        Dear Valued CLEAR/Clearwire Customer,

        You are receiving this notice because our records show you are subscribed to services on theCLEAR 4G (WiMAX) Network or Clearwire Expedience network. Sprint is in the process of implementing major enhancements to the Sprint 4G LTE Network, including the deployment of Sprint Spark, an enhanced LTE network capability, by repurposing the CLEAR 4G (WiMAX) Network and Clearwire Expedience Network. As a valued customer, we are providing you formal notice thatSprint will cease operating the CLEAR 4G (WiMAX) Network and Clearwire Expedience Network on November 6, 2015 at 12:01AM EST.

        What this means to you:

        • Sprint will no longer support CLEAR 4G WiMAX and Clearwire Expedience devices or services.
        • Your CLEAR 4G WiMAX and Clearwire Expedience devices and services will no longer work,
        including your ability to contact 9-1-1.
        • You should not return your device(s).

        To discuss your options or learn more, please call 1-888-888-3113.

        Thank you for your business.

        Sincerely,

        CLEAR/Clearwire Wireless

        • Lou Gardella

          Call the number and ask what you options are. There is your proof. Unbelievable!!

        • calvin200

          Called. That is for clear wireless, internet. Not the Wimax 2.5 cellular. Wimax, cellular coverage, is being turned off but they are not saying get lost.

        • calvin200

          http://www.clear.com/
          Website seems like they still want your business.

        • calvin200

          This is what I hear when I call, “Clear no longer sells Clear devices. To purchase a device and new internet service visit http://www.sprint.com“. Maybe they are messing it up. I don’t know what they are all doing.

    • Rbo

      Sprint’s shutting the WiMAX network down. Sprint also purchased Clearwire, and clear is basically just an MVNO of Clearwire. Big whoop, WiMax is dead. Clearwire is gone unfortunately after this.

  • “Rhetoric”? Really Cam?

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  • Chad Dalton

    i’m all for T-mobile but i’m not crying over whether they are #3 or #4 yes it makes me happy to see them do better and overtake sprint. But some of you just take it too personal. Does the service they are providing work for you? Yes? then good! I’m happy with T-Mobile!

  • Chris Bagatello

    Finally Band 12 is on Longisland I’m getting LTE all over eastern Suffolk love it !Streaming my dish app TV is amazing on the new S6 edge and unlimited data :)

  • mary5652

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