T-Mobile Un-carrier 6.0 is all about the music, including streaming that doesn’t count against your data allowance

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We had a feeling that tonight would be big, and it looks like we were right. Immediately after detailing Un-carrier 5.0 and the iPhone 5s Test Drive program, John Legere dove into the details of Un-carrier 6.0.

The focus of Un-carrier 6.0 is music. The first part of the effort is known as “Music Freedom.” Just as the name suggests, the Music Freedom program allows T-Mobile customers to stream as much music as they’d like without it counting against their data allotments.

Music Freedom applies to Simple Choice customers and includes a select group of music streaming services: Pandora, iHeartRadio, iTunes Radio, Rhapsody, Slacker, Spotify, Samsung Milk Music and the upcoming Beatport app. T-Mo is open to adding other services to Music Freedom and is inviting consumers to vote for the next addition right here.

Also part of Un-carrier 6.0 is Rhapsody unRadio. T-Mo has patterned with Rhapsody on the service, giving users access to Rhapsody’s 20 million track catalog. The streaming radio service also includes unlimited skips, no ads and the ability to save music for offline listening. Live streaming of certain terrestrial radio stations are also included.

Rhapsody unRadio will be available starting June 23 to users on iOS, Android and the Web. unRadio will be free to Simple Choice customers with an unlimited 4G LTE data plan. Those subscribers without an unlimited Simple Choice plan aren’t out of luck, though, as they’ll be able to stream unRadio for $4 per month.

And just in case the Un-carrier 5.0 and 6.0 double-whammy isn’t enough for you, T-Mobile teased tonight that Un-carrier 7.0 will be revealed in the “late summer.” What pain points would you like to see T-Mobile address with its Un-carrier 7.0 effort?

Sources: T-Mobile (1), (2), (3)

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  • Turb0wned

    So is this free rhapsody also available to us on the $20 unlimited plan?

    • Louie

      As in second line unlimited? Then yes.

      • Turb0wned

        He said its available to the people in there “newest” unlimited data plans, I’m on the $70 one….

    • D. Maki

      No you have to gave there new Unlimited Data 4G LTE

      • Turb0wned

        Well that sucks… How are you guys trying it already? Doesn’t show up in the App Store.

    • Justin Merithew

      I don’t believe so, if you’re referring to the grandfathered plan. I tried to do it and it was trying to charge me. I’m a little disappointed, but I’m hopeful they will change it to include us too.

      • JBrowne1012

        Yeah its really not fair at all the way it is now it should include everyone on Simple choice so now most people on tmobile are grandfathered in n this unlimited $20 plan so why do we have to give an extra $4?

        • philyew

          They’ve always restricted some of their new services to exclude grandfathered plans when there is a specific new plan at a higher rate available.

      • Dakota

        Grandfathered plans are what they are. Companies ditched those plans cuz they didn’t want to offer them so they’re going to provide incentives to get you to switch not ways to make you more comfortable. One day, they’ll tell you that plan has been phased out

        • Justin Merithew

          The new plan is already worth it for the extra tethering. This just sets a bad precedent of devaluing the grandfathered plan until we switch, and is very “carrier” . Something like this should really be available to all the unlimited SimpleChoice plans.

  • Louie

    Grandfathered $70 unlimited plan here. Thank you T-Mobile!

    • D. Maki

      Those don’t count for the Rhapsody unRadio service.

      • metalspy8

        I was just about to say that, I have the old unlimited data plan and my wife has the new unlimited data plan. I’m just using her rhapsody account.

    • besweeet

      Just now noticed this… Pretty disappointed. Oh well. Will stick to one of the other services or my locally-downloaded music.

  • Stefan Naumowicz

    One pain point I’d like to see removed is the fact that only simple choice subscribers get these uncarrier benefits. I work as a sales rep for T-Mobile at Walmart and its hard to sell prepaid to people when the customer and I both know they can go across the street and get a plan with more bang for the buck

    • Paulie W.

      And if they do the T-Mobile marketing department has done their job. Although, I would imagine, many folks signing up for prepaid have credit that precludes them from a contract plan.

  • dm33

    Roll fees into the service plan price like was rumored. I think rolling in taxes is too much to ask for because they’re so variable. Just rolling in fees at least would be nice.

  • TmoNJ

    I Agree with DM33 I think that all taxes included would just be a little to generous. I’m very happy with the free music streaming ,and I hope they will consider free video.

  • Peter Valencia

    Rhapsody update for UnRadio just came online on the App Store FYI

  • Mike Coleman

    How is the whitelisting on streaming features going to work and when? I just pulled up iHeartRadio, listened for a couple minutes, checked the app usage, and saw that it had used 7mb. Will looking at data usage from the android system itself no longer give us an accurate portrayal of how much data we have used against our monthly bill since these streaming services wont count against our data allotment? so the only option to see where you are officially at is now the tmobile myaccount online/app?

    • besweeet

      Monitoring data usage with Android’s built-in thing has never really been too accurate. Definitely checking with My Account or #932# should be the best route.

      • steveb944

        Thanks for the 932 note, I had no idea that existed.

    • Scoop003

      I always just used their usage widget. That way you have your correct usage right in front of you

    • MerikC

      Yes, the only official place to get your current usage is through the T-Mobile App or online.

      Also please note : Most music streaming includes small amounts of non-music streaming data, such as album art and pic advertisements. This data does use data from your high-speed data bucket, and the amount of data varies by streaming partner and the device being used. If you stream music for hours at a time, you can expect to see an increase in your data usage.

  • Spasillium

    Sucks that this doesn’t apply to the $30 5GB plan.

    • Ĵϵṟϵṃψ Ψαñ

      Source?

      • MerikC

        support.t-mobile (.) com/docs/DOC-10969

      • Spasillium

        Keyword: Simple Choice. The $30 plan isn’t one. It’s the $50 and up plans.

    • besweeet

      None of the perks have ever applied towards the pre-paid plans, have they?

      • Spasillium

        Nope, and if they keep adding incentives like these and the cool changes, I just might jump onto the $70 or $80, as I’ve been contemplating it lately.

        • Dakota

          That’s the point

  • Erika Perez

    So if I have the 70 dollar unlimited plan will I still get the service for free or will I need the 80 dollar plan -_-

    • metalspy8

      you need the 80 dollar plan.

      • taron19119

        where did you get that from

        • metalspy8

          i was watching the live stream event i tried it asap and it wouldn’t work with my grandfathered plan.

        • taron19119

          well I guess my $20 truly unlimited data plan won’t work for this

        • philyew

          LOL. Old timer…

        • Matt Pankey

          The plan isn’t that old.

        • philyew

          No it’s not, I misunderstood what he meant, thinking it was a legacy plan of some kind for $20, all in.

        • Dakota

          Nothing ever will

        • Daniel

          It says it on the Tmobile press release… You need the “newest” unlimited data plan.

        • thepanttherlady

          Which is no different than the “old” unlimited data plan except $10. So they want me to pay $10 a month to get streaming services for “free” on my unlimited data plan?

          Am in understanding this correctly?

        • philyew

          Isn’t it that you get the Rhapsody UnRadio service (value $4/month) for free on the $80 plan, and the rest of the streaming for the named services without it impacting your data usage?

          It makes more sense to pay the $4/month and keep the $70 plan, surely?

        • thepanttherlady

          Eh, I’ll stick to iHeart Radio and keep my money on my pocket. =D

        • Moby

          It’s not streaming “services”. It’s Rhapsody unRadio app. You can obviously use any other streaming service as much as you want with an unlimited plan. And now those on lower tier plans can do the same and not have it count against their throttle.

    • taron19119

      as long as you have truly unlimited data and then it doesn’t matter which one you have

      • metalspy8

        you need the newest unlimited plan.

      • philyew

        I do recall them saying the $80 plan…I think.

    • besweeet

      The $80 one, unfortunately…

  • spartanjet

    Id settle for a new Windows phone thanks.

  • Antonio JcRM

    What will happen if u try to surf the web at the sametime while u listening to music in the bg? The connection is already open to full speeds…

    • metalspy8

      I’m sure that was on magentas radar.

    • Nick

      It wouldn’t be that hard to figure out where a packet is going to and realise it belongs to one of the music providers they listed.

    • Dakota

      You’re gonna end up with pissed customers whose data gas run out when they claim they were streaming music

  • Erika Perez

    Uh do any of u guys actually know lol haha

    • metalspy8

      why dont you just try it ..its easier to try it yourself than to sit here and wait for answers…sorry

      • Dakota

        Or contact Tmobile for accurate information as the date nears vs asking anonymous folks who don’t have to stand behind their answer. And if you have a problem or suggestions, tweet Tmobile and Legere directly

    • Tm0nj

      From what I understood the free music is for the new plans that they have- the plans that have no contract that came out last year.

    • Nick

      I’m willing to bet you’d have to change plans. This is a way they get people to remove themselves off older cheaper plans. Though sometimes it’s not worth it for the consumer or the consumer just doesn’t know any better.

      • Dakota

        The old plans will disappear soon enough

  • Aurizen

    My next pain point is the taxes, taxes should be included in the plan, 100 dollar plan bill should be $100 no more no less. simple.

    • Nick

      Taxes will be vastly different depending on where you live. There is no financially responsible way for a corporate entity the size of T-Mobile to do this.

      • Dakota

        So why in the world was this blog saying that was the announcement? Honestly for a site whose sole focus is Tmobile, that was a pretty huge journalistic fail. They not only had no info on the iPhone trial or any of the music and data announcements, but someone sent them on a wild goose chase about taxes. Reminds me of the complaints people had when David left. They had nothing right… Ni good sources?

        • philyew

          Don’t you get it, the internal sources have been told to clam up.

          The stories in the week prior to the event were clearly marked as rumors, but they were published because someone – if not you, then someone else – would have been all over Cam complaining if he’d ignored the rumor and it proved to be true.

  • Erika Perez

    If I have to change my plan for this when will the unradio be available to use

    • philyew

      It says “Available June 22” on the page with the link

  • taron19119

    so nothing here today affects me so sad

  • besweeet

    So has anyone been able to sign up for the free Rhapsody unRadio service yet? The apps are already available for iOS and Android. Currently being offered the $4 deal on the $70 grandfathered unlimited/unthrottled plan.

    • taron19119

      you need $80 unlimited data plan

    • AxelCloris

      During the announcement Legere chose the words “free for those who are on our new unlimited plan.” From his wording, it sounds as though those of us who are grandfathered into the old unlimited data plan will need to pay the $4/mo.

      • JBLmobileG1

        Not a big deal for me. I have the old $70 grandfathered plan plus I am grandfathered into Google’s All Access Music service at $7.99 which is probably better than Rhapsody anyways. I still save $12 bucks a month so I can’t complain.

    • philyew

      It says “Available June 22” above the link…

      • taron19119

        you also need to be on the $80 unlimited data plan to take advantage

  • $15454173

    Rapsody starts June 22 so says the Tmobile site officially.

  • taron19119

    you need the $80 unlimited data plan to take advantage of unradio

    • Dakota

      Or pay four bux

  • Bryan

    As a subscriber with a grandfathered plan, this does nothing for me.
    Still nothing beats what I have currently and I appreciate the no overages.

    • Dakota

      New announcements likely won’t affect you unless Tmobile decides to stop honoring old plans, which theyve been doing as a courtesy. That likely can end if you find yourself as a Sprint customer in 2015

      • Matt Pankey

        If that happens I feel that T-Mobile will be the surviving brand.

  • Rob916

    You only need the $80 for the rhapsody service. All of the simple choice data plans will let you stream the other services for free.

    • taron19119

      everybody that’s on older unlimited data plans nothing here is for them

      • philyew

        I guess that maybe you will be able to stream to a tethered Android device without it impacting your tethered allowance…?

        Can anyone confirm?

      • Dakota

        They can switch to new plans of its a better option or be grateful Tmobile hasn’t forced them off their old plans. Their contracts are undoubtedly over and the company doesn’t have to continue to offer those prices

      • Joseph Torres

        No, all plans get music freedom promo. Just not the Rhapsody promo. Just pay the 4 dollars more and be happy you still save 6 bucks. :/

        • philyew

          Here’s what the support document says about plans:

          “Music Freedom is already included if you’re on one of the following data plans:

          Simple Choice™ Plan
          Simple Choice Plan with No Credit Check
          Pay in Advance (Prepaid)
          Pay in Advance Mobile Internet

          Some of our Classic plans also include Music Freedom. If you’re not sure which data plan you have, you can find out by logging in to My T-Mobile and clicking PLAN at the top of the page. If you’re still not sure if Music Freedom is included in your data plan, please contact T-Mobile Customer Service.”

        • Justin Merithew

          So therefor Taron is correct. The people with unlimited data don’t need music freedom, so grandfathered people got nothing. I think this is pretty lame because we already sacrifice a few gigs of tethering for 10 bucks less, now this sets the precedent that they’re going to throw shiny perks at the new plan until we feel enough pressure to switch.

        • Joseph Torres

          Sorry I didn’t notice I added that first line. But now we still get to expereince it for 4 dollars. That and seriously you pay for what you get. As for tethering 3 gb free is very generous for any company to do. So its 2 gb less then the newer plan gets at there higher price. Get over it. Accept that you pay less and there for dont deserve a little bonus like the ones that are paying more. LOL.

  • Nick

    I’m wondering why people are upset about why they aren’t eligible. I mean, you signed an agreement or agreed at one point what you were paying for was fine. If you don’t agree, then change the plan and pay for what you think you want. Working in a retail environment this has been the one thing I’ve never understood how so many people think they can just change the terms on their end all the time without penalty.

    With the type of logic I’m seeing here, basically anything I buy now and if it’s upgraded down the road, I should receive all those benefits free of charge. So my car I just bought gets better next year, I’ll demand that new one for the same price without any loss, financially, on my part.

    • taron19119

      Your missing the point of everything everybody is benefiting from this except for people who have grandfathered truly unlimited data plans it’s not right

      • Nick

        Uh, you just missed the entire point I was making. Perhaps I am not clear.

        You agreed to pay for what they were offering. $70 unlimited, no matter what. They aren’t forcing you or changing your terms at all.

        If you want the fancy new features, then you’ll have to agree to their new terms, which I think is perfectly right.

        Like I said, I bought a car, I liked what I saw, I paid for it. Next year something new comes out, I’m like, oh wait I want that, but I don’t want to pay for it. I don’t throw a fit to the dealer and act like they ripped me off or say, it’s not right they upgraded or added new features to a new model.

        I have the choice to decide that if I want those new things, I pay for it. Just like anyone else who wants the new things.

        And by the way, you have every right to feel left out. I think I would too, but that’s just the facts of life.

        • Matt Pankey

          Yeah but unlike a carrier based subscription service you don’t have to keep paying Ford to simply drive the car.

        • Joseph Torres

          But you do if you want to use the service Matt. A phone is useless without a provider. Just saying. Also I don’t see why people see the overall picture. Your paying 10 dollars less the new subscribers, why can’t you just live with it. Why bitch over a water down version of a music service? I have the 70 dollar plan, and I feel 100% ok with being left out. Why? Because I have something that may never be offered again. And at the time they offered it, there was not music promo going on. I get what I pay for and I am fine with it all.

        • Matt Pankey

          I don’t have an issue with it personally. I don’t use Rhapsody. I wish there had been more transparency in the announcement. Saying “The new Simple Choice Plans” mean nothing to people on the grandfathered $70 plan. Chances are they don’t even know there is any kind of new plans because they aren’t shopping for plans. I’m a marketing guy and I would have made that more clear to avoid upset customers who heard “unlimited plan” and thought it included them.

        • Joseph Torres

          I will give you that one, they could had said the 80 dollar plan would only be eligible for the offer. But business is business. I’m just waiting on how AT&T will react, will they just ignore this or will they find a new way to disguise their version with hidden charges and tricks.

        • Matt Pankey

          I’d bet on the hidden charges and tricks.

        • Nick

          Yeah, you aren’t quite getting the point I’m making. You signed an agreement/deal accepting the plan you have and what you got for it. You’re point to me makes me sound more legitimate anyway, you say you aren’t forced to pay Ford to keep driving the car. Well, we all know for most financed cars, you pay a bank, to keep the car to use. Now if you decide you want a different car, you trade in or sell and that involves a wide variety of variables. NOTHING STAYS THE SAME.

          You don’t trade in the car or sell and stick with the same terms on a different vehicle.

      • Sapper11d

        Actually if your plan is unlimited and you can stream to your hearts content then where exactly is tmobile at fault here?

      • ChitChatCat

        Well, you are benefiting with that $10 cost savings each month. You can pay the $4 for unRadio and still come out ahead.

        • taron19119

          I don’t pay 70 dollars. For true unlimited data I pay 20 dollars for true unlimited data

        • philyew

          And your data remains truly unlimited. You just are not getting a $4 discount for a paid service like other people who are paying $30 for “true unlimited data”.

          It works in the same way as hundreds of other subscription services that you could use, which don’t incur addition data costs from TM, and TM wouldn’t pay your subs for you.

        • taron19119

          U don’t get it

        • philyew

          I do get it. You want what they are giving to their $30 unlimited data customers when you are paying $10 less.

          Unfortunately, sometimes some customers don’t benefit from the changes that are made. It’s happened to me before. Now it’s your turn.

        • taron19119

          No I want what they are giving there
          80 dollars data plan customers I have the same plan I just pay 20 dollars

        • philyew

          Isn’t that what I said? Their $80 is comprised of $50 for phone and text and $30 for unlimited data.

        • ChitChatCat

          And the new feature is $30. That’s $10 more.

        • Yup, comes out to a $6.00 savings..lmao! Eh, what’s an extra $4. You should hear the ****** customers, who call into CS ( i dont work for tmo) saying that they want the $0.02 credit that they are deserving of/entitled to, and not a penny less…lmao.

      • Moby

        What benefit do you need if you have a grandfathered truly unlimited data plan?? You can ALREADY stream as much music as you want from any service that you want! People with throttled plans can only stream from certain services.

        • taron19119

          People on the $80 dollar true unlimited data plan gets unradio for free

        • Moby

          Yeah, they pay more than everybody else too! If you want it for “free”, you can increase your plan to $80. It probably is cheaper just to pay $4.

        • taron19119

          Not for me I pay 100 dollars im not paying more

        • Moby

          You pay $100 for a single line? If you do, you should switch to Simple Choice and save money.

        • taron19119

          Im on simple choice plan

        • philyew

          Unless you are including your EIP, fees and taxes, there’s something wrong with that $100/month.

        • taron19119

          No eip

        • philyew

          So it’s a $70 plan which costs you $100/month when fees and taxes are added?

        • taron19119

          Im not paying eip

        • Joseph Torres

          He probably has additional lines or has additional services like jump. That or he is just an ungrateful liar.

        • Paulie W.

          His parents probably pay it so he has no idea.

        • Dakota

          Prob includes phone payment. I’m glad I have a Nexus 5 and a $45 plsn

        • Joseph Torres

          LOL you already get a 10 dollar discount and are unhappy that you have to pay 4 dollars more to access some water down version of their 10 dollar music plan on Rhapsody? Get over it. How is it fair for those that have to play 10 dollars more to get what you have? Think of that next time before you spill stupid on these posts.

        • taron19119

          Im not paying more I pay 100 dollars a month and I just want what every one that has the 80 dollars plan is getting

        • Joseph Torres

          So I pay 230ish a month for five lines. And still have enough to live life. In July I can trade in my iPhone 5S for a better phone, but I’ll hold on to it until Apple sells their next phone.

        • taron19119

          Ok I see im over it and if the dummy units of the iPhone 6 are real that’s going to be one bad phone im looking forward to the galaxy note 4

        • Joseph Torres

          Funny thing is I had a Galaxy Note 2 before I got this phone. Nothing but charging issues, and buggy stock apps like messaging and the propose of a phone, the phone app. I just don’t trust Samsung, it’s a buggy mess. And even though iPhone messes up also, I have had less overall problems. If I ever do switch back to android, it will be a phone that Google made like the Nexus. Without all that bloatware, and gimmicky useless shit.

        • Justin Merithew

          I wouldn’t say we get a 10 dollar discount. The tradeoff is we give up a few gigs of tethering and save 10 bucks. This seems like they’re just going to leave us in the cold with promos until we feel enough pressure to pony up the 10 extra. Doesn’t seem super “Uncarrier”.

        • Joseph Torres

          Lol get over it I am in the same boat. I don’t feel entitled to any extra. If I want that ill just pay the 4 bucks, but nah Im happy with what I have. And seriously you complain about having 2gb less of tethering. Get over it.

    • Paulie W.

      Because they’re probably all butthurt 13 year olds that thought they would have something to show off at school. Welcome to Marketing 101, expect T-Mobile to do everything in their power over the next several years, to get everyone off the old grandfathered plan and on to the new one. They want cohesion with plans to save on billing, add to the bottom line and for future cost increases.

  • $15454173

    Hey all, Go on over to the TMobile site, VOTE for your choice of additional music choices and get a chance at a FREE GALAXY 5S. Requires only you email address.

  • Alex Zapata

    I’m already on an unlimited data plan, but this is still good news!

    • taron19119

      only if you have the $80 truly unlimited data plan

      • Alex Zapata

        I’m on the old $70 plan. This doesn’t affect me, but for other customers it’s potentially a great deal.

  • Freddie Lopez

    How do I enable the Music Freedom feature?

    • taron19119

      if you have limited data plan and all the services did they mention will be free for you to use on get data plan won’t count it your data allotment the unradio is only for people with the $80 truly unlimited data plan and everybody else on T Mobile has to pay $4 a month if they want to take advantage

      • Freddie Lopez

        But how would I enable it? Just load said app and I have free music?

        • taron19119

          What app are u trying to use unradio u have to download the app and it’s free automatically but not until the 23rd

        • philyew

          Subject to whatever charge the music streaming service levies.

          It’s the fact that the streaming service doesn’t use up your data allowance which is the deal TM is offering (aside from the free subscription to Rhapsody UnRadio specifically for people with the new unlimited data plan).

        • Tanner

          download the Rhapsody App from the play store. Then you click on the purchase options, they will give you an exclusive t mobile option, send you a confirmation code, and give you the free one if you have the $80 unlimited or $4.00 one for other tmo customers.

  • $15454173

    I stream music, radio and use my phone as a GPS and never get close to using my data as it is:) I dont have an $80 unlimmited plan either. New unlimited plan.

  • Aye Yo

    Everything is for EVERYONE EXCEPT UNRADIO!!! Why are people still complaining??? As a T-Mo employee I see that not paying attention doesn’t only happen in retail stores but clearly when reading also…smh

    • Nick

      I think that’s what people are complaining about. They are butthurt because they have the old unlimited plan and so the sweet free unradio deal doesn’t work for them.

      • Aye Yo

        Let’s just say for arguments sake you are on a grandfathered rate plan you still have a plethora of choices to stream music….UnRadio didn’t ever exist and technically still does not so why even make it an issue??? Use the other options or change to the $80 plan JUST to have the benefit of UnRadio in ADDITION TO the other choices?!!! Y’all want everything and expect to pay nothing…. T-Mo is giving you write a bit still with lower prices… Ughhhh

        • Aye Yo

          You weren’t the y’all Nick…just venting ;-)

        • Aye Yo

          *a lot and but…damn autocorrect

    • $15454173

      I hope you dont get asked about this too much in the coming days ahead. Reps are going to be busy hopefully with new signups.

      • Aye Yo

        Ha! I’m always pleasant even when repetition is the name of the game ;-)

    • xmiro

      but if I paid attention then what am I going to talk about with teh cute T-mobile guy :D

  • pboggini

    I went to the web site and it looks like you can’t add other streaming audio. I, for one, would love to have mlb.com gameday audio included in this streaming freedom. Sure it’s not music, but it’s audio and with T-Mobile’s agreement with mlb, I think it makes sense.

    As for uncarrier stuff? I’m with others on including the taxes. Honestly, if they did that they could likely migrate some of the current corporate discount customers off of their plans and onto the same plan as everyone else.

  • philyew

    Here’s something that people need to be aware of, and I haven’t seen mentioned so far (forgive me, if you’ve already posted this). From the TM Support document:

    “Important: To stream music so you’re NOT using up your data, you need to use the specific music streaming application. If you stream directly from a music company’s website through a browser on your phone, you’ll be eating into your data plan”

    • $15454173

      A question about the music streaming app. I can listen to Pandora throught the free app. Does that count or do they mean a paid subscrition app only.

      • philyew

        See the whole of the TM support document that I posted above. I can only assume that it is any app available for the listed services.

        • $15454173

          okay, thanks :) This is sounding better and better.

    • Dakota

      They’ll be tons of asterisks & fine print & probably pissed customers… I guess streaming from your Google music cloud ain’t included. This Uncarrier point could be big for young people as streaming music over data can eat up your data. If you’re driving, at the gym etc… That could enable folks to bump down their plans

      • philyew

        Google is one of the services that customers can vote for.

        I use my own server and Subsonic, but I doubt that option will be offered.

        • Matt Pankey

          Google All Access is winning by leaps and bounds.

        • JBLmobileG1

          Even if Google All Access wins my guess is you would still need to pay Google for their services. It would just be unlimited streaming for the one’s who don’t have Unlimited data.

        • Matt Pankey

          Oh of course. I don’t use All Access, but I do use Play Music to stream I have stored in the Play Music cloud. I also have unlimited data so no biggie. I just thought it was slightly odd that Google All Access had such a huge lead.

        • Hurlamania

          google made a voting bot LOL

  • measaurus

    For this saying you need the $80 per month plan.

    I don’t think this is correct. I think all you need to do is bebon the simple choice plan, and add any tier of current data plan. These are all related to 4G LTE Unlimited plans whether it is 1, 3, or more GB

    • philyew

      Let’s just post the whole support site document. The issue of $70 or $80 unlimited plans relates ONLY to the free availability of Rhapsody UnRadio. Here’s the rest:

      “Music Freedom allows you to stream all the music you want from select streaming services and it won’t count toward your data. Depending on your plan, you automatically receive Music Freedom and at no additional charge.

      Music Freedom is already included if you’re on one of the following data plans:

      Simple Choice™ Plan
      Simple Choice Plan with No Credit Check
      Pay in Advance (Prepaid)
      Pay in Advance Mobile Internet

      Some of our Classic plans also include Music Freedom. If you’re not sure which data plan you have, you can find out by logging in to My T-Mobile and clicking PLAN at the top of the page. If you’re still not sure if Music Freedom is included in your data plan, please contact T-Mobile Customer Service.

      Depending on your phone or device, the following music streaming apps are available:

      iHeartRadio
      iTunes Radio
      Pandora
      Rhapsody
      Samsung’s Milk Music
      Slacker
      Spotify

      Important: To stream music so you’re NOT using up your data, you need to use the specific music streaming application. If you stream directly from a music company’s website through a browser on your phone, you’ll be eating into your data plan.

      Note: Most music streaming includes small amounts of non-music streaming data, such as album art and pic advertisements. This data does use data from your high-speed data bucket, and the amount of data varies by streaming partner and the device being used. If you stream music for hours at a time, you can expect to see an increase in your data usage.”

    • $15454173

      I hope that you are right :) This would be great.

    • Hurlamania

      Rhapsody confirmed, tmobile ask what unlimited i had 20 or 30 they were afraid to say any more. I thought John said unlimited were there best customers? only if you pay $80 thanks for $hitting on us Mr. Legere

      • Moby

        How’s he $hitting on you? He let you keep your $20 unlimited plan while new customers $30. How about showing some gratitude to Legere? What’s so great about some stupid Rhapsody app anyway that has gotten you so upset?

      • UMA_Fan

        I guess it depends if you see the glass half full or half empty. You are getting everything promised to you when you signed up for the $20 unlimited plan and guess what? You are paying $10 LESS than people signing up for unlimited now have to. Think of what you have as just a loyal customer unlimited plan for signing up for T-Mobile. Years from now, as data demand increases, it’s going to be insane how much data you can use at such a low rate.

        • JB

          Right. And even if you pony up the $4/mo for the radio service, you’re still ahead by 6.

  • GameBoi/KillaBit

    This is great, I use Samsung Milk alot and have 2GB high speen and unlimited. Milk works great with EDGE as well… since most of my town is still on that network! But this is still great.

  • Hurlamania

    Sign this please if it doesn’t effect you today it may one day with a similar practice let T-Mobile and John Legere Know it isn’t right it isn’t #uncarrier it’s discrimination. https://www.change.org/petitions/t-mobile-and-john-legere-treat-grandfathered-unlimited-customers-the-same-as-new-unlimited-customers-and-offer-us-the-free-unradio-service-also-we-shouldn-t-be-punished-for-being-long-time-customers#share

    • UMA_Fan

      I don’t think this is the issue people are making it out to be. T-Mobile isn’t receiving any type of monetary compensation from the internet radio companies so it’a very different issue, than say, the sponsored data program from at&t. Amazon PAYING at&t for free customer access to their content IS a problem. Two different things here.

    • tmo

      I don’t think it says anywhere that customers on the old unlimited data attachment are left out of this music thing. Unless I’m missing something big here…

      • Tanner

        I’m on the $70 and it charged me $4.00. The website says “customers on the new unlimited LTE plans” in reference to the free music subscription. They are leaving the grandfathered plans out.

        • erikdrakon

          it doesn’t start till june 22nd

        • Hurlamania

          Yes sign the petition so it can be added

        • Joseph Torres

          Well they have to make money somehow, it’s better then what the others are doing. Building a network is not cheap, and even though they have a strong network people are using more data on the network now because they offer unlimited data. You should look at it like well I’m just happy I don’t have to play 10 dollars more for a service I may not even use.

    • Joseph Torres

      OMG, you pay 10 dollars less and have unlimited also? Just pay the 4 bucks extra and shut up.

      • Hurlamania

        I bought my plan long before that plan was around, i still have unlimited plan why am i treated differently for being a loyal long time customer. #unradio is free for unlimited customers why am I discriminated against? legere said we are the best customers, it’s not my fault they did a price increase when your plan is $90 and you pay $80 still it will be a different story. if you don’t stand for something you’ll fall for anything

        • Joseph Torres

          I actually have the 20 dollar plan on my account, and I feel ok with playing 4 dollars more to get that service. It’s better then paying 10 dollars more. We have a great plan that is not offered anymore to anyone and save 10 dollars whether we give care for some music service or are happy with the songs we already owned on the device and can listen for free regardless of a internet connection.

        • JBLmobileG1

          I agree with Joseph, if you really want the Rhapsody music, just pay the $4.00. Your still paying $6.00 less than the ones who have the unlimited plan. I have been with T-Mobile since 2004, have the $70 plan with unlimited data. I don’t think they are discriminating at all. My advice, don’t complain on something your still saving money on and getting something extra that you didn’t have before to begin with. People who complain about nothing tend to screw it up down the line. While some things may be worth fighting for, this isn’t one of them.

        • Hurlamania

          no unradio is not the same as rhapsody service. unradio is $5 regular price

        • Hurlamania

          any injustice is worth fighting for… I am Unlimited data don’t act like im not and not loyal john legere is pooping on my porch and i don’t like it

        • Joseph Torres

          Going way overboard, stop being ungrateful. Go to AT&T if you don’t agree with how pretty reasonable and fair it already looks. lol

        • Hurlamania

          I left att for this reason, my grandfathered plan wasn’t allowed to get features without big plan upgrade, i thought Tmo was uncarrier i see legere’s way’s

        • Joseph Torres

          And what features were they? Because I was with AT&T unlimited when they offered it. I don’t remember anything about features.

        • Hurlamania

          I was with att since 2000 I never had unlimited with att I had a talk family plan couldn’t add any feature unless i changed plans totaly,

        • Joseph Torres

          Oh, how sad I feel for you. Try not being able to get new phones unless you changed your plan “totaly” just because you had a older plan. Better to just miss out on a free service offered to those that pay more. Oh but wait for 4 dollars more instead of the full 10 you too can enjoy the cheap music service as well. :/

        • g

          First of all, the plan is $80/mo for Unlimited LTE (which was raised $10/mo for new customers).
          Secondly, you are a companies worst nightmare as a customer. If it was up to me I would remove your service and tell you to go fly a kite. You are the most ungrateful, irrational, complaining person I have see on this forum.
          My recommendations? First, please use that $10 savings/mo and learn correct grammar. Learning to form a full, complete sentence helps your case. After that is complete, come see me for your $4/mo fund. I am sure we can click some ads for you to help donate.
          If both of those do not sound good to you then I would suggest finding a part-time job online to help pay for your $4 monthly service THAT IS DISCOUNTED TO YOU AS A T-MOBILE CUSTOMER. Oh wait, you are loyal so everything should be “free”.

        • Hurlamania

          john said he was doing it for his best customer’s people on unlimited plan’s, well i am his best customer on a unlimited plan and im not getting it so it is $hitty that that is how he see’s us as not his best unlimited customer’s

        • g

          Tell me why you are a “better” customer then someone who just signed up? Wouldn’t that be treating someone differently as well? You do realize you are contradicting yourself in every way possible. Also, what makes you think these new customers will not be loyal as you? Don’t they have the possibility of staying for years to come? What sense of entitlement do you have over them? They are paying MORE money then you. If anything, this is the right thing to do. Give them MORE reasons to stay since they have to pay more then you.

        • Hurlamania

          tell me why someone why just signed up is a better customer, you just made my point thank you

        • Blake

          You’re not on the plan they’re offering the deal for. The deal was for the people paying $80/mo – not every single unlimited plan out there under the sun. You have every option to change over to the $80 plan if you want the free music service – no one is screwing you over but yourself.

  • Dakota

    What kind of reporting did this blog do & what quality sources do you have that the last few days were posts about rate plans with taxes included? Thats why you don’t speculate. It was totally wrong.

    I stream my iTunes collection via Google Music (that I’ve uploaded to my phone) so doesnt sound like that’s included – at least for now. And a trial period only for iPhone but not high end Androids? I thought phones had free trials anyway but maybe that return policy was for contract plans (or less than a week)

    • taron19119

      Not true at all uncarrier 7 is at the end of the summer so it might come then

    • Moby

      When you return, regular phones, they usually make you pay an expensive restocking fee. No restocking fee on the iPhone. Just use it and return it.

      As for Google Music it is leading by far in the vote getting for the other services that could be added. Keep voting if you want it.

    • philyew

      The site reported the stories as rumors and said so clearly. If they had ignored the rumor reports that were popping up around the internet and they had proved to be true, you would have been on here complaining that the site missed the main story that other sources had picked up days before the official announcement.

      Damned if he does. Damned if he doesn’t with some of you.

    • Blake

      Rumors are rumors – people want speculation as to what to expect, build the excitement. Sometimes they’re wrong (such as today) and other times they’re right.

      As for the test drive – they covered this in their event. iPhones were chosen for two reasons: 1) Apple was willing to provide them with the devices. 2) To help build awareness that T-Mobile carries the iPhone (they said something like 2/3 of their customers didn’t know they had it). They were open to expanding it to Android phones down the line. With regards to why – there’s a difference in having someone send you a phone – no bill, nothing to worry about, that you can just up and return for no money VS them charging you for it, you paying fees to activate, and then you canceling the service and the phone and waiting for a refund. It really is in the same line of thought just a lot simpler and more direct to deal with.

  • Cornelius Hardy

    I was searching the app store for it while watching and couldn’t find it. Is this one of those services that is going to skip Windows Phone. I’m on the $80 and listen to music nonstop. Would love to press skip more than 3 times and skip lame commercials. I listen to Pandora and Nokia music is also good by this sounds even better.

    • Moby

      Yes, the T-Mobile site said that app would not be available for Windows Phone or Blackberry.

  • enyceckk

    I on 750 mins plans with added 5GB a month service. Do I get free radio streaming ?

    • Aye Yo

      No because you are not on simple choice

      • enyceckk

        ty

        • Aye Yo

          More than welcome. You’d probably be saving more by switching to Simple Choice to have the advantage of the streaming even if you took the $50 or $60 Simple choice plans. Get the unlimited streaming, talking and texting by switching.

        • Singleweird

          Simple global, wifi calling, free tethering, too.

    • philyew

      Here’s what the support document says about plans:

      “Music Freedom is already included if you’re on one of the following data plans:

      Simple Choice™ Plan
      Simple Choice Plan with No Credit Check
      Pay in Advance (Prepaid)
      Pay in Advance Mobile Internet

      Some of our Classic plans also include Music Freedom. If you’re not sure which data plan you have, you can find out by logging in to My T-Mobile and clicking PLAN at the top of the page. If you’re still not sure if Music Freedom is included in your data plan, please contact T-Mobile Customer Service.”

      • enyceckk

        I have this

        Even More for Families 750 Talk

        $49.99/mo

        This plan includes:
        • 750 Whenever Minutes®
        • Two-year agreement – great discounts on phones
        • Two lines to start; add more lines if eligible*
        • Unlimited T-Mobile to T-Mobile calling
        • Unlimited Nights and Weekends
        • Free domestic long distance and no digital roaming charges across the US

        added 5GB of data for 2 lines 15$ each

        • philyew

          Unless there is a rep here to answer that, you’ll have to call customer service or contact TForce via social media.

        • enyceckk

          Thanks.

        • ChitChatCat

          That’s not a classic plan. Classic plans have the word classic in them. I imagine it is only the unlimited classic plans that launched at the same time as Simple Choice.

    • Moby

      See the support doc listed below. It says it’s available on some Classic plans.

  • Number_18

    Still a crap network. Lipstick on a pig.

    • Joseph Torres

      So, it doesn’t have full 4g coverage everywhere. But for those that it does work for are enjoying it and its great perks. Things aren’t offered everywhere in this world so get over that fact.

    • taron19119

      T-mobile is working on the network but its going to take some time so until that gets done they need a fix for the right now Sprint days as number 3 wireless carrier is coming to an end

      • Number_18

        Same old story. It was the story when I worked the 3G build out in 2008 at TMO. It is why I left the company and it is why I am no longer a customer. I keep hoping something changes, but they just do not have the capital to build out and support their network like Verizon, AT&T, or even now Sprint.

        • taron19119

          This is not the same t-mobile the ceo is getting the that spectrum the build out the network he is fixing yeahs of neglect and that doesn’t happen overnight

    • Singleweird

      Lipstick on the most badass, shape shifting pig ever. These are just preparations put in place while we wait until 2015 when our network is 99.9% LTE

    • monkeybutts

      Why not take the test drive yourself? See if it’s really as bad as you think?

  • Daniel Gomez

    what happened to taxes and fees being included in our bills so much for that rumor if metro pcs does it and now tmobile controls them would make sense to me that is an un carrrier move is it not

    • philyew

      Obviously it was just that – a rumor, as Cam made clear.

      • Aurizen

        might be apart of uncarrier 7, remember John Legere reads sites like these so it could happen.

        • philyew

          Yes, and it will probably be a rumor before the next event as well LOL!

          Life is getting tough around the TM blogosphere these days. Legere’s love affair with social media means that he can control the release of news like none of his predecessors was capable of doing. I’m not an insider, but I’m pretty sure that he’s been tightening the screws on unofficial leaks for quite some time – from even before David left here.

          Did ANY site get a hint that these were going to be the content of Uncarrier 5.0 and Uncarrier 6.0? It’s not like people are leaking this stuff elsewhere.

          Legere’s attention to the media makes it worthwhile us discussing all kinds of ideas about how UnCarrier should progress. That’s certainly why I harp on about some of my hobby horses…

      • Daniel Gomez

        Yea do you think uncarrier 7.0 will be better then this I was not so impressed with this event

        • philyew

          Who knows. I think there is more Uncarrier in 5.0 and 6.0 than is being recognized, but everyone has their own opinions…

        • Daniel Gomez

          Yea true are you satisfied with tmobile

        • philyew

          I’ve been a customer for nearly 12 years and have been happy – mostly – on a personal level, though there were times before the Uncarrier era where I was not happy with their business practices.

          I do think that consumers need Uncarrier to succeed in the long run, so that the industry is transformed. Essentially, I think the profit margins are unacceptably high and the market needs to realign closer to the TM model.

          No one but TM is trying to make those changes. I’m not sure even TM is as committed as they claim to be, but it’s up to the customers to do everything possible to make them live up to their claims. That in turn required picking the right issues on which to assert pressure.

  • Matt Pankey
  • guatemala7

    I would like uncarrier 7.0 to be ahoy phones with no bloatware

  • SprintHater

    All other Simple Choice customers, including those on grandfathered unlimited 4G LTE plans, will get Rhapsody unRadio at a special discounted price of $4 per month.

    • Hurlamania

      Thats only a dollar off the regular price

      • JBLmobileG1

        A dollar off the regular price and $6 off what the one’s who do get it for free and pay the $80 plan. Stop complaining, if you want it so bad, pay the $4 extra and still save yourself the $6. Now if they told you the only way you can even get it would be to switch to the $80 plan, then I could see why you’d be upset, but this isn’t the case. Even if you pay the $4, you still end up saving…. stop being cheap.

        • Hurlamania

          people who get it for free get the $5 unradio offer not the $10 Rhapsody service please try to understand that before further comment

        • JBLmobileG1

          When did I even mention the $10 plan for rhapsody!?!? You sir don’t understand do you?

        • Hurlamania

          A dollar off the regular price and $6 off what the one’s who do get it for free

          that is your quote from above it’s not $6 off you still don’t understand and yet you comment
          LOL

        • JBLmobileG1

          Ok… $80 Unlimited with free music…. $70 Unlimited without free music. $70 Unlimited plan + $4 music fee = $74. $80 – $74 = $6 which is what you save and you have exactly what the one’s who pay for the free music app with unlimited data. It’s not rocket Science.

        • Hurlamania

          got it

        • 212223

          You know, it’s people like you that their care reps hate talking to. You call in thinking you’re entitled to something, and no amount of common sense can convince you otherwise. What you are saying does not make any logical sense. These fine people here have explained it many times in many ways. But for some reason you hold your ground although it is clear that you are wrong. You have a grandfathered unlimited data plan that costs less. That’s how tmobile is treating you like you have unlimited. Non simple choice rate plans don’t get the option of unlimited and don’t get simple global rates. Because those extra services weren’t around when they figured the pricing of the rate plans. Just like with your data plan. The music service and extra hot spot weren’t around when they did the pricing. So you get exactly what was sold to you at the time you bought it.
          Say you buy a box set of some dvds of some show you like (for you ill guess glenn beck, you have the same logic skills as him) and then later, 5 years later, the 22 disc set of your beloved glenn beck rants is re released with a new blooper reel dvd and a collector’s tin but costs 10$ more. Would you go back to the store you got it from and demand they give you the extra dvd and collectors tin without you paying anything else?
          No you wouldn’t, because that’s absurd. Just like what you’re arguing.
          Please never harass a retail or care rep with your lack of common sense. And please kindly stop harassing us with this ridiculousness.

        • Gfhgffg

          He’s saying with 80 plan it’s includes radio

          With 70 plan you add 4 for it = 74..80-74= 6 dollar savings..but I totally agree with u hurlamania it should be free.. Also paying 70

      • UMA_Fan

        You save $120 a year over people who get un-radio for free. You’re complaining why?

        • Hurlamania

          I am treated differently
          because i purchased at a different price point ? what sense does that make? this offer is for unlimited customers I am that customer…

          do you thing you shouldn’t get free services for your car because you paid less than another customer?
          should a store not warranty your shirt because you got it at it’s old price?

        • Blake

          Those aren’t the same things though. You’re treated differently because you’re not on the same plan, you pay less than what they do. It’s got nothing to do with when you became a customer because you could just change to the $80 plan.

          The offer is for customers on their $80 plan, not all unlimited customers – you’re generalizing it to be all unlimited customers to prove your point. By your analogy that’s like a hotel offering buy two nights get a third free when you pay the full rate but you’re mad you don’t get the free night when you pay AAA’s rate, complaining that you’ve been to the hotel before and how dare they not recognize your prior business.

          Worst case scenario you add it on and you’re still saving at least $6/mo over the people paying $80. How’s that for a reward for your loyalty? $72/year savings over everyone who gets it for “free”.

    • Hurlamania

      unlimited plan is a unlimited plan it doesn’t matter what you pay and it shouldn’t matter sign the petition please

      • Joseph Torres

        Good thing I already have 10 dollars off my unlimited plan, I can make the extra 4 dollars expense should I even care for such a service.

        • Hurlamania

          you don’t have $10 off you just didn’t pay the price increase because you were a loyal customer but now your treated differently but you are unlimited, what is the next feature you don’t get for your loyalty, let this go and wait till you are forced to upgrade to a $100 plan just to get a current offering. that is how carriers work that is why i left att

        • JBLmobileG1

          You know what you get for your loyalty? You save $6! You are not being forced to even get the stupid music app. You never had it for free to begin with. You want it then pay the $4 and still save yourself $6. The only way they are messing with your loyalty is if you are being charged more than other’s which you are not.

        • UMA_Fan

          …Except that no one is being forced to upgrade to a $100 plan. That’s your inane fantasy. It’s kind of like complaining that you don’t get 5GB of hotspot when people on the $30 unlimited plan get the hotspot while you’re sitting on the $20 unlimited plan and only getting 3GB. Well, the answer is pretty simple, it’s because you’re not paying $30. You’re not losing anything and you’re not being forced out of anything. You make no sense.

        • Hurlamania

          not now your not… there is always another day…

          john said he was doing it for his best customer’s people on unlimited plan’s, well i am his best customer on a unlimited plan and im not getting it so it is $hitty that that is how he see’s us as not his best unlimited customer’s

        • Joseph Torres

          I just don’t understand how you think a shitty music service is really a big deal. Just be happy they didn’t force everyone migrate over to the 80 dollar plan and kiss your 70 dollar one goodbye. Now that would be a carrier move. Adding a feature free of charge to those that have to pay the increase feels more like a thank you for understanding.

      • philyew

        What has a subsidized music service got to do with unlimited data? There are other streaming services that carry fees for the service, the use of which is going to be exempted for data caps.

        Implying that having to pay service fees to a third party is somehow a breach of the unlimited plan means that TM should be expected to pay the service fees for any of the other streaming services they exempt.

        Of course that is nonsense.

        There is no guarantee that any of these UnCarrier changes will bring benefits to every customer. Sometimes you win, sometimes you don’t. This time the legacy unlimited plan subscribers don’t get the cookie.

        • Hurlamania

          this offer is a reward for unlimited customers I am a unlimited customer and always have been even when they capped it for a while at 5 gb I never reach 500mb a month and don’t use tethering but i pay for unlimited as i am loyal but im not getting treated as such in return, things like this is the reason i pay for top tier service. and john legere is pooping on my porch

        • JBLmobileG1

          Why not go to AT&T then and let them poop on your porch? Wait… let them shard all over your porch!

        • Hurlamania

          It’s Shart not shard

        • G

          How are you “entitled” as a loyal customer? This to me has never made sense. You pay for service, you receive service. End of story. Because you have been “with” a company for X years does not entitle you to anything more. Stop acting like a child.

        • Hurlamania

          legere said the free unradio was for loyal unlimited customer, his bes customers guess what thats me…. sorry i bought in at the lower rate, does that make it right to treat my unlimited data differently NO

        • monkeybutts

          if you weren’t already using rhapsody does it really make a difference?

        • philyew

          The problem is you have this whole thing ass-backwards. It’s the poor souls who have to pay an extra $10 a month for unlimited data who are the ones who are getting stiffed by TM, if anyone. Not those who got the benefit of retaining their legacy unlimited plan.

          Recognizing that, TM have said, in effect, that they will mitigate that extra charge by giving those customers the offer of a subsidized music streaming service. What do they need to mitigate for you?

          As I’ve already said, not everyone gets to benefit from UnCarrier every time. Just because you don’t this time doesn’t mean that TM are mistreating you.

        • Hurlamania

          well i have never got a benefit , i’ve had t-mobile way before uncarrier technically i have less, they took away online photo’s, email / text and address book.
          and i get 2 less gb of tether i dont use, but i pay for as a loyal customer

        • philyew

          No contracts? No overseas roaming charges? No overseas calling? No Jump!? You’ve had no benefit from any of them?

          Well, I’m pretty much the same, except that I got 500Mb of extra data that I have only eaten into once since the change. That’s the way it goes…and I’ve been a “loyal” customer for 12 years or more.

        • Hurlamania

          no i use none of those features, i never use tether and only use about 400 mb or less a mo. usually less i usually stream my music at home i stream a lot it is my main thing i guess.

        • philyew

          If you “never use tether and only use about 400mb or less a mo.”, why, for goodness’ sakes, do you pay for an unlimited plan?

        • Joseph Torres

          Exactly, why?

        • Hurlamania

          because im a loyal customer

        • philyew

          We obviously have a different understanding of loyalty, and so does TM.

          I used to have a 5GB plan, but very seldom needed to get anywhere close to the limit. It was actually TM support staff over at TForce who analysed my data usage over time and convinced me that I could drop my plan down to 2.5GB without risking being throttled. We went through a thorough review and they saved me $70 a month and none of the 4 lines on my plan have problems with data consumption.

          It’s that kind of thing that convinces me to stay, not whether I get every dime’s worth of benefit from every change that is being made.

          If you are paying for unlimited data and only using 400Mb a month, you need to get that fixed ASAP. Then paying $4/mo for UnRadio will not even be an issue.

        • Hurlamania

          I would not get the service even for $1 I would use it for free as with the other tmobile unlimited data customers

        • philyew

          You wouldn’t be an unlimited data customer, if you right-sized your plan. You would, however, not be paying unnecessarily for a service you aren’t using.

          Unfortunately, you seem so utterly consumed by the idea that TM have done you wrong, that you can recognize neither that it is the people who pay an extra $10/mo for the same service who are most injured nor that you could save yourself unnecessary expense by ceasing to be an unlimited data customer.

        • Hurlamania

          you dont get it, i dont care about paying for more than i use i care about being treated like im not a unlimited subscriber because ive had mine for 5 years and my rate is lower. thats how it is that doesn’t mean im not an unlimited subscriber and shouldn’t be less important to T-Mobile and John Legere as an $80 unlimited customer.
          we are both unlimited…

        • philyew

          I get it. You’re responding to the marketing pitch that Legere used. Fair enough, but the REALITY is that the people he’s actually chosen to acknowledge are paying $10/mo more than you and, until now, for the higher price only got a larger tethering allowance that most probably don’t use.

          He told you you’re special, and you’re determined to hold him to that. Sometimes, though, these people really are just blowing and this is one such occasion.

        • Hurlamania

          thats the point , im holding him to it or the world can see the true colors, it’s all about people being who they say they are and treating people the way the should and not saying stuff for the camera only and not point out other peoples deceptive ways and gimmicks with your own

        • Joseph Torres

          LOL, you sir I am shocked you even know how to use whatever it is you are on to post messages after reading what you just wrote.

        • TechAce01

          IT could be so he doesn’t have to worry about ever going over. I use about 50 text messages, but I pay for unlimited so I won’t have to worry about ever going over.

        • philyew

          But on a data plan the worst that happens is you get throttled. If you are only using 400Mb you don’t even need a separate data plan and there are three levels of plan in between before you reach unlimited, so it still doesn’t really make any sense.

        • TechAce01

          Throttled is just as bad as no service. Being throttled halve-way though a month is extremely bothersome. I’ve almost left T-mobile over that so I can understand why a person would want unlimited even when they’re nowhere near the cap. Peace of mind can be a good thing.

          P.S. I’m not saying that’s why he believes the way he does, just that I can see a compelling reason to get a unlimited plan when you’re not a “power user”.

        • philyew

          I kind of see what you are saying, but frankly having an unlimited plan because your frightened of being throttled when you usually only use 400mb is a bit like driving to work in a tank because you’re worried about having a fender-bender. lol!

          There’s a simple remedy when you’re approaching your limit, which is to go online and add the next data plan. You can take it off again when you no longer need it. In that way a user in this situation could save $20 a month, every month that they use their normal amount.

          Heck, he’s not even using 50% of his “free” allowance. It’s irrational.

        • Joseph Torres

          Who cares whether you use the service lightly or not even at all, you agreed to pay for something that came with what it came with. You are not entitled to anything especially if you are a lucky person to save 10 dollars then the unlucky that are stuck on paying the new pricing.

        • Hurlamania

          it’s not luck i bought my service when that was the price it doesnt mean i dont have a real unlimited service?

        • Joseph Torres

          Yes you had good timing and was lucky to get in before they surprised everyone with a 10 dollar increase. Though 10 dollars more for true 4G LTE unlimited data is still not a bad deal. Being that the only other one that offers something like that is sprint and we all know how horrible their version is…. It’s like yes we have unlimited internet at sprint, if you can find it that is…. But anyway, you pay for unlimited internet and you are getting that unlimited internet. They start to offer a cheap music service free to those that are stuck paying 10 dollars more and you feel that you don’t have an unlimited plan anymore?

        • Hurlamania

          It wasnt good timing, ive been here 5 years not 2 months as has the $80 rate

        • Joseph Torres

          Lol, either way you have the best deal in American wireless and you still complain? Also if you use only 400 – 500 mb like you said on another post because your being “loyal” (LOL). Then maybe you should go to a prepaid provider. If you don’t like how things are going with your current provider then switch, though should you ever need true unlimited 4G LTE you will be missing out on the already great deal you possess.

        • Emily

          You do realize the grandfathered unlimited plan refers to calls, text and internet. Any other features are not part of the unlimited plan. Also why are you complaining about a service that apparently you won’t use since you don’t use a lot of data or even tether? You just like to get everything free. Sorry the world does not revolve around you. This company can not satisfy every single customer so get over yourself!

        • Joseph Torres

          I have been on a lot of carriers, both prepaid and postpaid. Ever since I unlocked my iPhone 3GS from AT&T years ago right after my contract ended I have been with T-Mobile. Why did I leave AT&T, because they would charge me for things I never added, they started to throttle my unlimited internet and accused me of tethering just because I would touch 10 GB or more monthly thanks to Netflix and YouTube mainly. But moving to T-Mobile I have never had a problem with them, and certainly don’t feel they owe me anything for sticking with them. (Not that 3 almost 4 years is that long anyway.) I have always felt they have treated me very well, and made sure if I have a problem it get fixed quick. They even gave me a free signal booster with no charge, I just have to take care of it or yes I will be charged. But I plan to never return it because I feel that I will never need to switch to another provider. What I am trying to get at is that we should all just be grateful that they are the only provider today that offers true unlimited data with speeds that kick my expensive house internets speed and pricing.

        • Jess Gonzalez

          Sir how did u obtain a free signal booster? I have 3 lines w tmobile and I am only able to get lte upstairs in my house. I have no internet at home so a signal booster would help. What words did you use to make them give you one or lend you it?

        • Nemesai

          As long as you can get 1 bar of signal in your home, then you have the ability to order a signal booster. This is done by either giving customer care a call and having one shipped (and pay shipping cost of $6.99), or by contacting a local store to see if they have them in stock (some do, like mine, but not all stores will). Very easy process, and you only get charged for the equipment if you either don’t return all of it at the end of your service or if any of it is damaged. Hope that helps!

        • Jess Gonzalez

          Thanks for your help!

        • ChitChatCat

          So they took away a bunch of services that are provided by zillions of other apps (including Apple and Google as part of the ecosystem your phone works in) and you are subscribed to a plan that gives you more than you need but you continue to pay for it. And this is T-Mobile’s fault. Got it.

        • Hurlamania

          nope not at all , it is their fault to treat my unlimited service different than others no matter what they pay. what if an airline didn’t offer you a beverage because you paid less for your ticket than the person next to you.
          what if an amusement park wouldn’t let you ride a ride because you used a coupon when you purchased your ticket

          so your ticket for those are not the same as everyone elses because you got a different rate on yours
          am i clear that that’s your view on the situation
          can a car dealer refuse service’s to your car because you bought your car before the price went up????????
          let’s be clear

        • ChitChatCat

          If, when I purchased my ticket, the service included didn’t say beverage included, then, at a later time, the airline decided to sell a more expensive ticket for the same flight that did include a beverage, I wouldn’t expect them to provide me a beverage.

        • g

          Nicely said.

        • g

          Do you even read what you type?
          How is the analogy about a car dealership refusing service related to this? You did not sign up for your grandfathered plan and have this included at the time of purchase. So how can you include a new feature, at new pricing, the same as yours. Also, you did not use a “coupon” or special discount at the time of your purchase… Both are terrible examples.

        • Mdhen

          The benefit is for simple choice cusomters. T-mobile clearly differentiates and so should you.

        • thepanttherlady

          Simple choice plans started over a year ago. The only “differentiations” are the perks they add to the customer’s who pay $30 versus $20 for their data. Other than that, the plans are exactly the same.

      • riopato

        This is BS, do you even want Unradio? I joined it, not that great BTW. Regular Rhapsody is 100x better. To make you feel any better, I’m a windows phone user and I can’t even take advantage of this service since the Unradio feature is exclusive to iOS and Android only. Rhapsody wants me to join for $5/month to use première as a replacement to Unradio.

  • HangmanSwingset

    I’m doubtful of this, but does it apply to tablet users who don’t pay for anything more than the free 200MB? If so it’d give me a reason to actually take my iPad mini out of the house.

    • Hurlamania

      no it shouldnt because you have a cap,

    • $15454173

      I am siding with your doubt :)

    • erikdrakon

      “Stream all the music you want on your phone or tablet from the top music services including Pandora, iHeartRadio, iTunes Radio, Rhapsody, Spotify, Slacker, and Milk Music without using your 4G LTE data.”

      • HangmanSwingset

        Yes, I get that. I’m just wondering if you need to pay above the free data allotment.

        • ChitChatCat

          It isn’t listed as one of the plans, so, yes you would have to pay.

      • philyew

        It is however plan related. Here’s what the support document says about plans:

        “Music Freedom is already included if you’re on one of the following data plans:

        Simple Choice™ Plan
        Simple Choice Plan with No Credit Check
        Pay in Advance (Prepaid)
        Pay in Advance Mobile Internet

        Some of our Classic plans also include Music Freedom. If you’re not sure which data plan you have, you can find out by logging in to My T-Mobile and clicking PLAN at the top of the page. If you’re still not sure if Music Freedom is included in your data plan, please contact T-Mobile Customer Service.”

        • T-Mobile Cares

          The 200MG free plan is consider MBB on Demand and therefore does NOT qualify as. Music Freedom rate plan. I hope that clears up your question.

      • Hurlamania

        if you pay for a tablet plan

        • HangmanSwingset

          The thing is it doesn’t say that you have to pay, but it also doesn’t say you don’t. The free plan is still a plan, with a data cap just like the paid tablet plans. I’m guessing it’s something we’ll have to just real world test.

        • philyew

          Is the plan defined as either a Simple Choice or Pay in Advance plan? If not, you will have to call customer service, but it’s unlikely to be covered. See the support article I copied below.

    • Joseph Torres

      Nope, and I’m glad it don’t. Why should they be allowed? If you have hotspot on your phone you maybe able to use that to share the net with your iPad being that sadly there are ways to trick the system.

  • Devin

    If we pay the $4 a month, will it use our data?

    • philyew

      Depends on your plan.

      Here’s what the support document says about plans:

      “Music Freedom is already included if you’re on one of the following data plans:

      Simple Choice™ Plan
      Simple Choice Plan with No Credit Check
      Pay in Advance (Prepaid)
      Pay in Advance Mobile Internet

      Some of our Classic plans also include Music Freedom. If you’re not sure which data plan you have, you can find out by logging in to My T-Mobile and clicking PLAN at the top of the page. If you’re still not sure if Music Freedom is included in your data plan, please contact T-Mobile Customer Service.”

  • Hurlamania

    Try to understand this people who argue
    you dont get it, i dont care about paying for more than i use i care about being treated like im not a unlimited subscriber because ive had mine for 5 years and my rate is lower. thats how it is that doesn’t mean im not an unlimited subscriber and shouldn’t be less important to T-Mobile and John Legere as an $80 unlimited customer.
    we are both unlimited…

    if you pay less for your car, jeans, ticket, house etc… that doesn’t make it worth any less than people who paid more for the same thing.

    grandfathered unlimited plans are being specifically targeted as being inferior and they do not matter, they are not regular customers of our unlimited service, but yet outsiders

    John legere is pooping on your porch grandfathered people

    • Joseph Torres

      OMG. Could you please get over it already. You have a great unlimited deal, and you feel that just because someone that pays more then you and gets a little feature for it you feel that you are inferior?

      And what the hell is this about pooping on your porch. He is not even throwing the finger at you with this deal. You are getting unlimited, and are paying less for it. And 5 years is not that long to be considered loyal.

      • Hurlamania

        I dont have a great deal i have the deal that was available at the time you just got a bad deal. time doesn’t = loyalty
        being loyal does…

        • Joseph Torres

          Nope, i have that 70 plan also just like you.

        • Bratty

          Whine whine whine. How about growing up and not being a fool?

    • Blake

      Dude – really it’s $4/mo assuming you even want it (it might suck). You’re saving at least $10/mo over the folks paying $80/mo – so what’s the big deal? Think of it more as a bonus for the people on the $80 plan is all.

      • Hurlamania

        If you reAD what i posted you would see it’s not about the $4 i wouldnt buy it for $1 it’s about not being treated as an unlimited customer because i bought my plan when it was at a lower rate.

        lets say you bought a music service for 9.99 a month and they raise the price to 17.99 but you keep your 9,99 price as long as you want but then on day you try to listen to a song and you can’t because they added that song to the library after the price went to 17.99 so if you want to hear the new songs you need to pay more or listen to the old stuff because your unlimited listening isnt as important to them as the other peoples.
        sorry you bought yours previously to help the company grow and get to the point where they could charge more for new customers.

        what if you couldnt update your gps to the new software because you bought yours before the price increased would you think that was right? same model you just registered it before a certain date thats all
        i bet you would just say aw shucks

        • Blake

          Do you get unlimited data? Then you’re treated as an unlimited customer. The deal wasn’t for every unlimited customer, it was only for those on the $80 plan.

          I see what you’re trying to do with your analogy but it’s wrong honestly – with a music service you have the expectation to be able to play any and all songs. Them raising the price and then suddenly blocking a song from you unless you pay more is a jerk move. In this case it would be like them also adding music videos for the $17.99/mo plan only and not giving it to the $9.99/mo people. Same holds true to the GPS situation. Garmin did this actually before they introduced lifetime maps on certain models. If you bought one of the older models you did so not expecting map updates, then they introduced ones that came with it and that’s how it goes. Usually the ones with lifetime traffic cost a little more than those that don’t have it. In the end it’s about expectations.

          You had no reasonable expectation or right to this music service – it honestly has little to do with your data plan or cell service. It’s at best a tangential product, not an expansion of an existing catalog of expected content.

          Your analogy, and honestly your entire argument, would make sense if they said “Oh hey, all you folks on grandfathered data plans don’t get wideband LTE – for that you’ll have to upgrade”. But they didn’t do that. They didn’t do anything like that at all honestly.

        • od312

          Switch to cricket, ya big baby

        • MARK

          Listen. T-Mobile is providing this service for free to $80 subscribers because T-Mobile needs the money to strengthen its network. T-Mobile wants to thank the customers who jumped onto the $30 Unlimited Data bandwagon.

          The $30 data plan also includes more legalized tethering plus free music.

          If you have a grandfathered data plan, you still get unlimited data. Go stream Pandora or this new unMusic service for $4.

          I have the Preferred Android Unlimited data plan that does not throttle for $5 per month with an old plan that has Bridge to Value. I can stream video and music all day for just that $5. I have used well over 20GB a month on this old plan. Do I get any legalized tethering included in this $5 plan? No. Do I get this new unMusic plan for free? No. Do I get any of the international data or text services for free like Simple Choice customers? No. But I do pay much, much less per month for my family of 5 to have unlimited and un-throttled data ($5 per line) plus Unlimited Talk and Text Nationwide.

          I do not expect T-Mobile to give me anything else. I am grateful that T-Mobile has let me keep this plan since 2006 with the many perks that I have accumulated over the years.

          Be grateful that T-Mobile has let you keep your $20 or less Unlimited Data plan. Even if you sign up for the unRadio service and you currently pay $20 for your data plan, you still save $6 per month over the new $30 data plan.

          To be honest, I may switch over to the new Simple Choice plans to take advantage of the global freebies, legalized tethering abilities, and now that music does not count towards the data high-speed threshold (which is what I primarily do on my phone), the Simple Choice plan is sounding better than my grandfathered plan.

        • Mdhen

          I really have no clue what you are concerned about. If anything it is rather childish and incredibly short sighted. T-mobile is OBVIOUSLY trying to phase out the grandfathered plans. All companies try and do that, this is exclusive to T-mobile. They don’t make the same profit off your plan as they do the new ones and really their ploys are about increasing subscriber base. You are getting a better deal on the important things to you. If you like the perks associated with the new payment plans and service structure then switch. If not stop crying and enjoy your plan and your freedom.

          Your arguments and points are completely illogical. Why would any company further benefit something that is not the majority and not a way to new customers. New customer means new revenue, which helps provide the capital to invest into a better network and continue to provide great devices etc. Your cries fall on deaf ears my friend. Go bloo bloo bloo somewhere else.

        • TechAce01

          You say his points are illogical, but they make sense to me. What doesn’t compute is your post. In business it’s almost always been easier to keep existing customers than try and get new ones. Think about it. Why do you think they have a retaining group?

          It’s always more cost effective to re-market to existing customers rather than attract, educate, and convert new ones. The fact that these customers have already demonstrated an interest in your offerings and are engaged with your brand gives you an advantage that you’d be mistaken not to capitalize on. The rule of thumb is that it is 5 times more expensive to acquire new customers than it is to retain existing ones.

        • Mdhen

          You may have a point on the new customers being more expensive, but unfortunately, without subcriber growth, T-mobile can’t excel. So I am sorry that this hurts your feelings. Yes I agree that keeping good customers around is a key and I think T-mobile has a great and loyal core of folks, but you and I are not enough for that to matter much.
          But again, T-mobile isn’t the only ones that do this. Look at Directv, Comcast, At&t home products, they all give you tremendous introductory rates and then that is it. Good luck with Directv if you contract is up and you would love to have the same offers as new clients. The fact of the matter is in a business that is based on market share for capitlization the new are typically always going to get the better deal. In the end, those moves will help those of us who have been around for a long time with better network more reliable network, but the shiny toys don’t come to us. Products are the same way… Apple doesn’t reward you for having an original iPod and being a first adopter, they reward the customers and phase out the old.
          His crying makes little sense inasmuch as he can have unlimited streaming of all music anyways. He can watch the world cup on his phone, in fact the entire tournament and it doesn’t matter, he can stream netflix all day every day. His arguments make no sense because new customers pay more on the base plan to get the international texting that isn’t in his rate. If he wants those PERKS, or if you do, then you should ditch the sanctuary that you have and go for it.

        • TechAce01

          Those listed companies don’t have any real competition (Except Apple) so they don’t care about maintaining their existing customers as a regular business. In Apple case, I agree with you.

          I don’t agree with everything he posted, but I can follow his line of thinking. (And it didn’t match what your last few sentences says.)

        • Mdhen

          Yea I mean I guess Directv doesn’t compete with Dish, Comcast, Time Warner and other local providers… Because T-mobile has so MANY real competitors nation wide…. At&t, Sprint and Verizon. SOOO different.
          I am sorry you are bloo bloo about it and same with the other guy. It makes sense to INCREASE customers not keep the 5 happy that they already have. It is a gamble most companies make that loyalty will trump. They are being loyal to you by ALLOWING you to stay in your plan. They are trying to entice you to move with added value. T-mobile was bleeding customers for many reasons and had little or no value added to entice people to switch. Now they have developed added value via price, international texting, unlimited streaming music, etc. Their benefits are for adopters of the NEW plans not the old plans and it is very clear why.

        • TechAce01

          Direct TV only competes with Dish and Comcast or Time Warner. Comcast and Time Warner aren’t in the same area so that leaves only three. That’s not a free market where we have competition. The mobile carriers are starting to move more and more towards becoming monopolistic. That doesn’t mean we the consumers should just roll over and take it. If we see something that we don’t like, We SHOULD speak our mind about it. That’s one of the reasons why I’m trying to convince more people that The Sprint/T-mobile merger is bad for us consumers. If you don’t like someone else opinion, fine. that’s okay. But to attack someone who differs from you don’t add to the conversation and make you look like a spoiled child who only his opinions matter. It’s possible to disagree with someone without calling them crybabies.

          P.S. Also, it wouldn’t hurt to understand why someone may disagree with you. Before I state an opinion, I try to stay open mined so I can hear both sides to the topic.

        • Mdhen

          If you continue down in the comments you can read his nonsense. He is upset that as an unlimited customer on a grandfathered plan he doesn’t get the perks that new customers get. Yes I can understand being distraught, but again you can have your cake and eat it too. Interestinyl, he further attests that he doesn’t even use more than 400mb of data a month with streaming as a main component of that, so I guess my confusion is why he is complaining. He would probably be better off switching.

          If you think that the moves T-mobile is making goes against customers I think you are definitely wrong. T-mobile is the only change agent in the business that has a national scope. They are turning things around, generating press headlines and growing its business. It will only grow its business with new customers NOT grandfathered plans. End run getting new customers = better network, robust network, better customer service (hopefully) and new opportunities for the company.

          You have still yet to undermine the argument about customer growth, which is what this ultimately about. I listen to people all the time, but just because you listen doesn’t make the complaint logical or just, it just makes it a complaint. It is a simple cost benefit analysis in keeping what he has (and doesn’t use to any extent) and changing to a simple choice plan. Again, I am all about T-mobile gaining customers and if that means we need some gimmicky ideas and offers with a differnet price structure and a loud mouth CEO, I am good for that. They are improving choice in what was a stagnant market place.

      • riopato

        I really don’t understand this complaining about $4/ month thing. These people do understand that the $4/ month has to do with Unradio which is a gimped version of regular Rhapsody? They do know they still have access to Pandora, iHeartRadio, iTunes Radio, Rhapsody, Spotify, Slacker, and Milk Music with no effect on their data? Why would anyone want to add this crappy version at all? Am I missing certain specifics here? Or is their grandfathered p unlimited really that cheap?

    • Moby

      Stop being so cheap and pay the $80 if you want the $80 benefits. If you can’t afford it, stick with what comes with your cheap plan and STFU. Many businesses offer premium services to those that are willing to pay for them. Ever heard of first class seating on an airplane?

    • Jimmy James

      Loyalty means nothing to corporations. I am a long time Rhapsody subscriber and pay $9.99 a month. Now I read people are getting it for $4, just because they signed up 3 months ago. I signed up 8 months ago, so I pay the full $9.99. I definitely won’t be using T-mobile to add Rhapsody to my phone bill, I will just keep paying with my credit card directly to Rhapsody. At least this way T-Mobile won’t be able to count me as someone who signed up for their UnRadio deal (not that lowly me means anything). I only stay with T-Mobile for their unlimited data. I switched phones a couple of months ago, and the sales associate took me off the old grandfathered Jump! plan and put me on the new one without asking me, or explaining there was a new one. Yes I should have stood there (no chairs at the T-Mobile location I go to) and read the entire contract word for word. I know, my fault. I read about the new Jump! plan after I was in the store. No, I should not have to keep up on all of the changes T-Mobile is going through. Luckily, he did not change my $70 unlimited data plan.

      • tmoguy

        If you call care they can put you back on the old jump plan. The rep did this because they wanted the $4 in commission.

        • Jimmy James

          I called as soon as I found out a week later. They said nope. They do not have the option in the system to go back.

        • tmoguy

          There are guidelines for adding the original jump plan back on to an account. This situation indeed falls into those guidelines. If care will not help go back to the store and speak to the manager and have them call the RSL and have it reverted.

        • Guest

          I called them right away. They said nope. I probably should have harassed them politely. Seems to be the only way to get things done in the USA nowadays. Nice guys never get the discount.

        • Guest

          I called them. They said nope.

        • Guest

          I called as soon as I found out. They said nope.

      • riopato

        Your Rhapsody subscription will not count towards your unlimited data so why would you want to subscribe to unradio?

    • riopato

      Again, I would like to know how much is this grandfathered unlimited costs? I’ve been paying $80 for a very long time ever since Voicestream became T-Mobile. So how much cheaper is this grandfathered unlimited? I remember having the truly unlimited plan when T-Mobile converted to hspda 3.5G but that was still costing me around $80.

  • jeffy

    Will rhapsody unradio be available to the grandfathered plans, or you need to be on the $80 unlimited plan?

    • Hurlamania

      it’s only the $80 for now sign the petition, link is below or on twitter and change dot org

      • jeffy

        Where is the petition link?

    • Cokman

      Only simple choice plans

      • Hurlamania

        that is simple choice just not being treated like one and unradio is only for unlimited unless you’ve had it for more than 3 months then you don’t count, it’s all very carrier

        • Geez

          Let it go man. Nobody is going to sign the wack petition.

        • riopato

          Yeah, he was being sarcastic. I surely hope you was also.

        • :)

          I’ve owned my Honda accord for 10 years. Loyal customer here. Please sign petition for them to give me better gas mileage like the new ones. I’ve been so loyal I paid a lower price and haven’t bought a new car in 10 years.

    • Fabian Cortez

      $70 for some of us.

      • $14077376

        You need to have the $80 plan to use it. I myself have the $70 unlimited plan and I would have to pay the $4/month to use it. It’s on T-Mo’s FAQ page (you have to click “Show more questions” to see it)

        • Fabian Cortez

          You’re correct.

          I read about that on their site an hour ago.

          Oh well, $4 is better than $10.

    • Moby

      $4 if you’re on a grandfathered plan.

  • Uncarrier Is Dead

    YAWWWWWNNN
    Thank goodness that every carrier doesn’t make every little move an extended commercial

  • vrm

    another costly blunder- why would people sign up for unlimited now ? Most unlimited data users listen to crap radio over the network. Now that futile pursuit will be funded solely by t-mobile.

    • Ughudad

      I only download stuff on my wifi, I have never used more than 3GB of data on my line and I don’t try to conserve it. I have a 128GB micro SD card with all my music from Spotify on it.

      My house internet is much faster than their network anyway. I see no point in paying for unlimited unless you can’t get fast internet where you live/work.

      • Jimmy James

        I like to spend as much time outside in the summer, away from home. I can watch Netflix or Aereo at the beach or a park, or on my hour lunch at work. I can browse YouTube and not worry about HD video putting me over the limit, now that YouTube lets you set 720p HD on your phone. An hour of Netflix uses 400 something MBs. If I was still with AT&T I would be over my limit in 5 days. I also like finding new music, and downloading or streaming it adds up. If you search for data usage on T-Mobile, you will see that many people use gigs and gigs each month.

  • big_ole_truck

    I’d rather keep my ‘old’ unlimited without the unradio for $10 less per month than have the ‘new’ unlimited. It really doesn’t matter to me if the other music is streamed without counting on the data usage meter or not – it’s unlimited high speed data for me. I’d rather have the monetary savings than the unradio service for ‘free’.
    As for the others on the ‘old’ unlimited, if you want the unradio, it’s just $4 more per month. Not a bad price imho, much cheaper than $10 fee for other streaming services.

    • Fabian Cortez

      That’s because you didn’t opt for the uimintws high speed when it was /only/ $20 a month.

      • $14077376

        How long ago was that? Don’t you still have to pay a subsidy if you have an ancient unlimited plan?

    • riopato

      What exactly is this old unlimited plan? The last time I changed my plan, I was paying $80 for truly unlimited everything and that was without the ability to internet share. I’m now paying the same rate $80 for everything with internet sharing. So what’s the difference?

  • mazdajdavis

    Why is everyone missing the point? If your unlimited how is not having music count against your UNLIMITED data a favor. They could double how much data the music streaming takes, your unlimited who cares. Not counting data when I have a never ending pot of it matters not to me. T-Mobile is uncapped, if it was 5gb “unlimited” ok but its not. So really its just a ploy to get those that don’t count to pay the $4. Also my Windows 8.1 tablet(Dell Venue 8 Pro) comes with free Xbox music for life. So I can get any album I want and listen to it just like I own it as long as I have a data connection. I like that much better, radio, blah, whole albums now were talking. All for one 30 video Surface add right when I start the app and no other adds at all. Its great that was 2 crappy uncarriers T-Mobile. No one wants to test an iPhone for a $700 holding fees are you nuts?

    • Fabian Cortez

      Those of us on the unlimited high speed plans benefit from unRadio.

      Free internet radio with their ads and skip limitations is the very reason why I don’t stream them. This free unRadio is a bonus for me.

      I hope that I could actually search for the songs that I want with the subscription. I hope it’s not limited to the premier service.

    • speeb

      The “Music Freedom” is definitely a plus for me, and a lot of other people on Simple Choice plans. My wife has a 1GB plan, I have a 3GB. I’m always conservative with my streaming, but now? No big deal. Keep Spotify going all day.

    • Oy

      Can I borrow your phone for a day? I promise I won’t drop it or do something stupid. And I will return it at the end of the week oop I mean at the end of the day. I won’t steal it and sell on EBay. Can you trust me??

    • riopato

      Is this rant even in English or just short hand? I don’t understand this point.

  • kevev

    This is bad for net neutrality. Trying to split internet usage into tiered services can destroy the internet and make it like cable.

    • DDLAR

      Huh? Giving end users unlimited free access to some services is not a threat to net neutrality. You really need to think this through.

      • $14077376

        I think he just wanted to use current buzzwords. I agree, music streaming can use up your whole data plan in a day, yet everyone wants to use it, so this is great!

        • Matt

          Honestly,Pandora doesn’t use all that much data. I once used it for 8 hours of streaming music and it barely put a dent in my plan.

        • kevev

          Actually it is a NN issue because customers who don’t pre-pay for the “free”(nothing is free) service are charged $4 for it.

        • riopato

          The only thing that is charged $4 for is unradio for those who are not top tier Unlimited 4G LTE customers.
          Pandora, iHeartRadio, iTunes Radio, Rhapsody, Spotify, Slacker, and Milk Music subscription is still free data for those who opt for any unlimited plan.
          If you are referring about those who are pay as you go customers, why would they even care about this?

      • BlackJu

        Semantics. Once the cap is hit, whitelisted content is given preferential treatment.

        • riopato

          This preferential treatment benefits the customer. 1. By offering offloaded bandwidth that’s never touched by music streaming. 2, Giving the customer more data for anything outside music streaming..3, essentially giving more data to the user since music streaming isn’t counted.
          Simply put, if you’re a voracious music streamer, a 3gb unlimited subscription customer will have the whole 3gbs of data to use outside of anything that isn’t music. Once that cap hits, throttling will effect everything except for music streaming. What’s the threat here?

    • Matt

      It isn’t really a net neutrality thing because (AFAIK) packets aren’t being prioritized: it’s simply that this music streaming service won’t count against the customer’s data bucket. I would love it if Netflix could enter into a similar deal!

      • DirkDigg1er

        I would love it if Netflix provided wifi in airports, buses, and subway stations.

    • Moby

      You would prefer that the government come in and restrict T-Mobile from providing free music streaming? That would be very bad for the consumer. But I know the net neutrality supporters could care less about the consumer.

    • riopato

      Net neutrality has more to do with content creators and service providers over the internet to provide equal service across the board to the consumers. What Netflix is doing by paying cable companies to ensure optimal streaming goes against net neutrality. What T-Mobile is doing is the exact opposite by ensuring optimal streaming by providing no limit to the consumer’s service subscription. Now if T-Mobile charged extra for this service, then that would go against net neutrality since it would interfere with creator content and subjugate the service provider. It’s like Time Warner/ Comcast actually letting Netflix provide a service without any interference that would degrade the quality that Netflix wants to provide but of course that will never happen.

  • BlackJu

    I see WP users are getting the big stiffy again.

    • DDLAR

      What’s WP?

      • $14077376

        Windows Phone (8)

    • Bratty

      Why? Download any of these apps and you have no issues…..hahahahahahah

      • JJCommonSense

        Will the unradio app be available in the WP store?

        • riopato

          nope

    • S. Ali

      Blame MS not T-Mobile. In fact, this should give MS an idea to allow carries to test drive Windows Phones. MS is moving too slowly with updates and features, they should be release updates every 3-6 month. Instead they are just matching features that already exist on the market. For heaven sake, MS still locks down their phones not allowing you to sideload apps. They won’t let you change stock apps (stuck with IE). They won’t let you tinker with their platform. Why should developer waste their time with that platform?

      • BlackJu

        You obviously aren’t a user and are full of BS.

        • S. Ali

          I have a Nokia 521, no it isn’t BS. Microsoft failed HARD with Windows Phone, that is just fact. They are trying too hard to be Apple and Google, but they failed on both fronts. Here Maps sucks (poor POI database). Email sucks (crappy attachment handling, no file management). IE sucks (nobody uses IE anymore). Multitaksing sucks (resuming..hell). There are no games (the newest games came out 3-4 years ago on Android/iOS). There are no popular apps. Developers have to go through loops to release apps using MS propriety platforms. It is a dead platform. On Android and iOS you get cutting edge innovative features…..on Windows they give you Cortana and a Notification window. Wow, such innovation. I mean it took them THREE YEARS to add VPN support. You are delusional if you think anyone should waste time with WP.

        • BlackJu

          Then you know that they release updates quite often, let you preview the newest OS, and position their OS between Apple and Google. All devices get OS updates for 18 months min, unlike Android. As for sideloading, the average consumer doesn’t know what that is and wouldn’t use it if they did. I have not personally tried it, but MS provides detailed instructions on how to do this. So, yeah, I’m still leaning towards BS

        • S. Ali

          You can lean on all the BS you want, marketshare speaks for itself. I’m STILL waiting for an official 8.1 release on the 521 (no, not an early preview). That’s the real facts right there. By such time, iOS8 and Android 5 will be out. Who cares about WP then? I’ve been using Windows Mobile since the 5.0 days (Samsung Blackjack, HTC Touch Pro 2) so I have some clue what I’m talking about. MS has FAILED.

        • BlackJu

          T mobile has already committed to the 8.1 update this summer. For someone who is interested in sideloading apps, you don’t care to register as a developer and preview new features…odd. The market share argument is a poor one. Should Tesla stop building cars, our Apple discontinue all desktop systems. No, they shouldn’t. Failure comes only when you quit from lack of resources or will. You are spewing pure FUD.

        • S. Ali

          I can do all that on my Android without registering. I can even get the latest OS without becoming a developer. WP is a failure, just ask people on WP7 that DIDN’T get an upgrade to WP8. Did you forget about that joke of an update WP7.8? Yeah, most people did too!

          You’re confusing FUD with truth. Pure non-sense.

        • BlackJu

          So you want me to ask the WP7 people who didn’t get an update almost two years ago if an OS they haven’t used is a failure? And mind you, updates are often made available to carriers, who chose not to test and deploy. You haven’t thought this through obviously. I’m done here.

        • S. Ali

          Let me put it this way. My original FOUR YEAR OLD Gingerbread phone (Android 2.3) can run KitKat (4.4), that is THREE generation leap in OS. Meanwhile the original T-Mobile Nokia 710 didn’t even get WP 7.8. So please, go on and tell me how I haven’t through this through, please I’ll wait…

          You have no idea what you’re talking about. So yeah, just walk away.

        • riopato

          You just supported BlackJu’s point. T-Mobile blocked the update to 7.8 for the Lumia 710. Fortunately the official update can easily be flashed on this phone but the process might be a little too complicated for your simple Android mind.

        • S. Ali

          Yes, WP is too complicated for me, you’ve enlightened me. Go away now.

        • riopato

          It must be too complicated for you since you can’t grasp the concept of having different architecture under the same platform. It’s probably because a decrepit platform like Android will always be the same OS no matter what added gimmick is stacked on it.
          I’ll never go away as long as you continue to make comments that spews nonsense

        • riopato

          So are you saying that you can install the latest android into the HTC G1? I’d like to see that because that’s what you are suggesting when comparing WP7 and WP8 which are 2 totally different operating systems. I suppose you can run iOS 8 on the original iPhone also.

        • S. Ali

          Yes! The G1 can in fact run 4.1 (jellybean). So let me ask you this. When can I run WP 8 or 8.1 on my Lumia 510, 610, or 710, 800, or 900?

          You know the answer to that question. NEVER.

        • riopato

          wp8 will come to those phones when kit Kat is available for the HTC G1 and iOS 8 comes for the first iPhone.

        • riopato

          I don’t think 8.1 will be available for the 521. Again, it’s due to the low specs that the hardware offers. Most of the apps available for windows phone can’t even run on the 521.
          All that market share proves is that people are gullible or don’t really care about innovation. Everything that is popular doesn’t mean that the product is superior. It just means that their marketing is more effective.

        • riopato

          You have the worse example of Windows Phone. Half the issues you are having with it has more to do with Lumia 521 hardware. I’d like to see what kind of innovations can either iOS and android make with such low end hardware. You’d find that neither platform can hardly run on that phone.

        • S. Ali

          I have a VERY old LG Optimus S (half the specs of the Nokia 521) that runs KitKat (4.4) very well, it originally came with Gingerbread (2.3). The iPhone 4 also has lower specs than the 521 and currently runs the latest iOS. I STILL don’t have 8.1 on the 521, so I have no idea what you are talking about. Microsoft screwed up big time on Windows Phone.

          Furthermore, you can ask all those T-Mobile Nokia 710 owners why they didn’t get 7.8, 8.0, or 8.1 if you want to get into a “low end” phone argument. All Android and iOS devices have run the latest OS (officially or unofficially). But the latest Windows Phones don’t get the latest OS. These are the FACTS.

        • riopato

          The latest windows phones don’t get the latest OS? WTF are you talking about??? 521 is an entry level phone and the 710 is more than 2 years old in addition to the fact that T-Mobile stopped supporting it 6 months after it’s release. The LG has a gimped version of kit Kat and still runs pretty bad and the iPhone 4 has much higher specs than the 521.
          Windows phone 7 and windows phone 8 are 2 completely different architectures which is why wp7 phones could not run on WP8 platforms.

        • S. Ali

          You can retort with as many apologist responses as MS feeds you, I’ll just let the market share figures speak for themselves. People have spoken and they are saying to NO to Windows Phone.

        • riopato

          My mistake, I thought we were talking platforms, not about marketing. You seem to be flip flopping topics when you don’t have a responds that would make any sense.

    • Moby

      Because there’s not enough WP users to make it worth the time to construct an app.

      • BlackJu

        There is a rhapsody app

        • riopato

          Which isn’t free, but at least there’s no data hit if we subscribe to rhapsody prime

      • riopato

        Xbox music started out strong on the users voting poll but is currently getting trounced by Google access and Grove Shark.
        It’s still holding it’s own though by being in 4th place so it’s kind of telling how many WP users are out there

  • Matt

    T-Mobile is arguably doing some things to shake up the industry and it is refreshing. I would like to see T-Mobile offer a value added package to do away with voice/data international roaming and long distance charges altogether. I would gladly pay an extra 10-20 bucks a month for this. I realize this may not be possible because I’m sure international use is a large revenue stream but it would really force AT&T, Verizon, and Sprint to re-evaluate their business models and be more competitive.

    The only thing keeping me on AT&T at the moment is simply a lack of stable coverage where I live. One of the purposes of having an unlimited plan is to avoid a landline and T-Mobile just doesn’t serve my home area very well.

    • bakgwailo

      Why don’t you get a signal booster for your home? Also, Texts + Data are free when roaming, and calls are free when on Wifi internationally. It actually works out very, very nicely.

      • BlackJu

        Yeah, just don’t go far from your house… Kinda like the old cordless phones.

      • Matt

        You’re assuming that I have a phone capable of WiFi calling. I’m an iPhone user so I’m out of luck in that respect.

        • bakgwailo

          Well, iOS8 will have wifi calling baked in, so there is that.

        • John

          Actually he isn’t. He’s taking about a T-Mobile cel-fi repeater. Available free from tech support.

  • peharri

    No Amazon Prime music streaming?

    • $14077376

      You can vote for it on the information page!

      • bt

        I would but it’s not on the list!

        • $14077376

          It’s actually first on the voting list under “PRIME MUSIC”

        • riopato

          Prime music is losing drastically in the polls. Looks like Google access and Groove Shark are heating up this race.

  • S. Ali

    Uncarrier 7.0 may have to do with those rumored 700mhz deals, or that leak about the simplified billing.

  • vrm

    it is not about the “music”. Whatever stuff you listen to that passes for ‘music’, you wouldn’t listen to mp3 if you gave a $h1t about music, not to mention a streamed version of that garbage.

    It is all about tmobile losing unlimited data subscriptions because those m0r0ns get that specifically for streaming “music”.

    • qmc

      Oh great, one of those audio snobs.

    • TechHog

      Silly peasants. I bet that you spit on them for their insolence. How could someone possibly consider him/herself a music lover without spending $1000+ on audio equipment? Silly plebeians.

    • Robert. A. Phet

      Seriously? I have over $15K in audio equipment (mostly towards speakers), and about $60K in home theater equipment (dedicated theater room), and I would never say anything like that. Streaming music serves a purpose, most of the time convenience trumps quality. I am never going to waste my time organizing music

      As the photography saying goes “the best camera is the one you have”

    • Jimmy James

      My JVC boombox still vibrates the concrete.

  • JJCommonSense

    I’m sorry, I don’t care what anybody says, TMO is kicking @$$ right now!! Unlimited data, competitive plan prices, upgrade freedom, free international calling and data.. now if we can speed up the turnover of those 2g areas, we’d be sitting on top!

  • Jimmy James

    People always forget about Slacker, one of the original music streaming services from way back.

    • riopato

      Slacker is already one of the top 6 services that all unlimited customers can stream with no hit to their data

  • William Burr Winans
    • 212223

      You want the new service? Get the new data plan. Someone get these petition idiots to stop.

      • Good

        well we aren’t the old people only paying $5

        we have the plan from just 2 months ago and were already deprecated

    • Robert A. Phet

      I’m on the grandfathered plan. I don’t think I should get UnRadio for free. When you ask for everything all the time, you start being ignored. This isn’t worth complaining about – it is just an extra perk for those PAYING the most, not those receiving a grandfathered unlimited plan.

      Further, I will probably drop from unlimited to 1GB, because streaming music is the primary reason I have unlimited.

      • Spokker

        Well I pay $58 a month because I buy my own phone. How does that fit in?

    • Mdhen

      So tired of these people. You don’t get to have the cake and eat it too. Seriously folks what are you crying about?

  • TechAce01

    On the face of it, This sounds good, but the more I think about it, the more I’m not okay with this. Here me out before instantly thumbing me down. One of the argument for net neutrality is all data is treated the same. What T-mobile is doing is treating streaming music differently than all the other data. (That isn’t treating data as neutral data)
    The carriers and broadband providers can use things like this to fight against net neutrality. Just thought I’d share one of my objection to this.

    • Joseph Torres

      I get what your saying but others try to place limits and charges one services like netflix. I see t-mobile giving you an opportunity to experience without degrading it all after you reach a certain amount. Plus they are adding more services as we go. But in order to handle it all they need to first test the waters and slowly add companies that use high bitrates like 320kbps. See pandora n itunes use like 90kbps or less i believe thats why edge speeds can kind of handle it. Its just baby steps.

    • riopato

      I’m confused, are you suggesting you would rather have streaming music data to go against your limit instead of having no hit to your data limit all for the sake of net neutrality?

  • wsj

    It would have just been easier to say only those with the 5G data plans get the “free” music.

  • Jimmy James

    The grandfathered plans did not have their $300 disconnect fees paid off from other providers by T-Mobile, like the new customers did. So some of the new customers already got a huge discount.

  • Gfhgffg

    omg guys! I didn’t sign up last night cause it was asking for 4 dollars..I reinstalled today and its FREE!!!!!!!! I’m on the 70 dollar plan..thanks T-Mobile!!!!!!!

    • Jimmy James

      This is not true. It is still $4.00 for unlimited skips and no ads, and $9.99 for full control and offline access.

  • Gfhgffg

    Try it again!!!!

  • Gfhgffg

    Under settings it wants me to upgrade.. But its already working..I’m confused..

  • Gfhgffg

    What happens if ur on prepaid
    . can they still bill u?

  • Matt

    T-Mo would be the bees knees if they could offer an add-on package for like 20.00 a month for unlimited international roaming/long distance.

    • guest

      There is free international roaming. Calls for .20/minute

  • Jamie

    TMobile rep told me tonight, that you need unlimited 4G and hotspot of 5GB – 11GB running in 4G for Rhapsody unRadio.

    • Dark enV

      Yeah they told me that too and it’s stupid, the announcement said if you have unlimited data you get unradio for free but then the rep tells me I have to go to the new unlimited data plan to get it which is $10 more for me since I signed up in September. Basically it’s only good for those who signed up with the lower data plans or those who signed up with the new unlimited data, those of us with the older unlimited plans are left out in the cold.

      • riopato

        The announcement specifically said Unlimited 4G subscribers get the service for free as a thank you for being the upper tier customer. Regular unlimited customers gets this service at a discount rate.
        There are 6 other music streaming services including regular Rhapsody that doesn’t use up your data plan and that’s across all unlimited tiers and 1 additional service that is decided by user poll

  • conservative_motorcyclist

    anyone get this to work yet? I have the unlimited plan that includes 3GB tethering, and when I click the link to go to the Rhapsody site, it wants me to pay $4 a month? Am I signing up right?

    • Jamie

      You must have unlimited 4G and hotspot of 5GB – 11GB running in 4G for Rhapsody unRadio.

      • riopato

        It’s free if you have Unlimited 4g+ hotspot. $5/month if you have the lower tier unlimited. Also it only works for iPhone and Android phones since T-Mobile doesn’t want to support Windows Phone and Blackberry

  • Mikey Donohue

    For Uncarrier 7.0, I think an unvideo service would be cool. Like netflix. Or youtube. Or hulu.

    • tmolover31

      I doubt they will offer an UNvideo service, because it would make the $50 1GB plan seem unlimited. If they do, then they might as well remove the 1GB cap and make the $50 plan unlimited since no one would would get close to the 1GB cap.

    • tmolover31

      I doubt they will offer an UNvideo service, because it would make the $50 1GB plan seem unlimited. If they do, then they might as well remove the 1GB cap and make the $50 plan unlimited since no one would would get close to the 1GB cap.

  • UralBas

    Would anyone know of this applies just to iPhones or Android as well?