Check out Sprint’s new offer, seem familiar?

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Yesterday, it was revealed that Sprint would be offering customers a chance to earn up to $650 to switch to its Framily plan. Sound familiar? It should. It’s pretty much a term-for-term copy of T-Mobile’s Uncarrier 4.0 “Contract Freedom” phase. But, unlike Tmo’s offer, it’s only for a limited time between April 4th and May 8th.

Sprint will give customers up to $300 service credit for trading in their old phone with Sprint Buyback. To make up the rest of the $650, customers will receive up $350 to pay off the ETF on their current contract in form of a Prepaid Credit Card. And – while you may be tempted to think T-Mobile customers are exempt since they technically don’t have early termination fees, Sprint is also offering to pay off up to $350 of your EIP.

It requires customers to port in their numbers like T-Mobile. And requires users hand in their final bill, like T-Mobile.

In almost every way possible, this is a carbon copy of T-Mobile’s offer. Except it’s just temporary. And, if that isn’t proof that Sprint’s running out of ideas, they opted for a purple/magenta backdrop on the advertising. I think someone’s having an identity crisis…

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  • Samonite

    this is just sad

  • Chris Hilbert

    I still don’t see people leaving their carriers for Sprint. Sprint has such a poor reputation. I am not sure sure if there is a way to remove the poisoned brand name.

    • bkin94

      Buying a smaller cellular company with a better brand name?… Not that I want that!

  • nd5

    There’s an article on pocketnow that kinda blasts Sprints Spark network. The article states that it’s incapable of handling simultaneous voice and data transmission… so much for Spark. Again more evidence that Sprint is run by a bunch of buffoons.

    • fsured

      Does it mention if it results from CDMA technology? I did a comparison with a friends Verizon LTE and T-Mobile LTE while both of us were tethering to our tablets. When we sent a txt message or phone call to his phone it would drop the tethering completely.

    • Moby

      Verizon doesn’t have that capability either. Are you saying they are run by a bunch of buffoons as well?

      • Barnassey

        What are you talking about? Almost ALL 4g phones on verizon support voice and data. only one that dont are the old cdma only devices.

        • Moby

          They support voice and data, but not simultaneous voice and data. LTE at this time doesn’t support Voice. So the Verizon device will have to go to 3G for the voice call, and unlike the 3G that AT&T and T-mobile uses, it can’t do data at the same time. So the data won’t continue until the call is over.

        • Eric

          Actually the phone just uses two antennas: One for calls (3G antenna or 1X) and the data antenna (LTE),

        • Moby

          You’re right. Except for iPhone on Verizon. Still can’t do it because they didn’t add the additional antenna.

        • Barnassey

          Phone that use a combination of CDMA and LTE are ALWAYS connected via 1x for calls. Data unless there isnt a LTE signal goes over LTE.

        • Moby

          I checked and you’re right except for iPhones.

  • bkin94

    Not familiar enough. It’s not affective if you’re leaving one contact only to get locked into another one

    • Paul

      Well, you don’t have to buy a phone. Go on eBay and get one. You may not get the full $650, but you’ll also not be stuck in a contract.

    • Jason

      Contracts on postpaid are still in the majority of postpaid business….
      If your past your grace period to return services/devices this is a blessing if your having horrible service…
      One may have moved into a bad service area after said grace period ended…
      Sometimes contracts are cheaper than byod….Sometimes an ETF charge is cheaper and easily to deal with than selling a phone and then buying a compatible phone…

      • Guest

        You have a grace period with T-Mobile too you know.

        • Jason

          yep, thats why I posted life changes after grace period….
          Am I posting on the Spanish site something? Maybe the French site??? LOL
          I know my english isn’t 100% proper but with how many misreads I’ve had today alone, I feel there is a language barrier for some folks here….
          I’m sorry yall my kids are on Spring vacation so I’ve posted like crazy…
          I have had alot of down time but this a blog site where you read where is the disconnect when it comes to comments? smh

  • GuyBorg

    I am calling it now, T-Mobile will sue sprint for the Magenta colored add, as they should. Sprint obviously feels like making the same mistake ATT did with their AIO wireless or whatever their pre-paid brand is.

    • Jay J. Blanco

      Exactly what I said. Lol. We’ll see though

    • Spanky

      I guess T-Mobile should hurry up and change the colors of the MetroPCS logo (orange and blue), or else AT&T will sue them (as they should).

    • Moby

      You can make a single ad any color that you want. AIO made their actual brand colors similar to T-Mobile’s magenta and that’s what the court ruled on.

      T-Mobile has no case against Sprint’s ad as you and mingkee are trying to claim.

  • mingkee

    Magenta again?
    I smell a lawsuit.

    • Moby

      You can “smell” it all you want. There’s no restriction on using a certain color for a single advertisement.

  • steveb944

    That Magenta is hilarious. I don’t think T-Mobile will sue tho as that will only bring more attention to a measly temporary offer.

    • Jason

      I believe the AIO lawsuit had more to do with the fact is was part of the permanant company logo….This is just a limited time advert….
      As of why Sprint wouldn’t use its traditional black and yellow has me beyond clueless, the color yellow is way more attention grabbing then the dark magenta in this add…lol

      • thepanttherlady

        Maybe by offering the almost exact same deal and coloring as T-Mobile, Sprint is trying to make everyone think the merger is/has happened. LOL

        • Jason

          Winning post of the day!!!!

          Please oh please no merger, I hate the thought of going to Att, Verizon, prepaid, or mnvo of TMo/Sprint…

          I’m at a perfect price point and have had amazing customer service so far for Sprint to come f#$% everything up LOL

          Get more towers up and I would voluntarily give up my discount believe it or not!

        • thepanttherlady

          Exactly!

          It was either that or Hesse and Son figured if it works for T-Mobile then they’d do the same thing. Literally. ;)

        • Jason

          I hope it works for them!!! Leave us alone!!! Lol

          Next Sprint will put out hypnotic messages in their commercials to the ffc members or whoever has a say in the merger….
          Maybe Verizon and Att put Softbank up to this task to show that higher prices are needed….Rofl

        • Nurdface Gamerhandz

          I would gladly accept a reverse merger, surprisingly. If Softbank bought T-Mobile and merged Sprint’s massive spectrum holding into tmo, it’d be an amazing thing.

          shame it’ll be like Canada, instead of getting French cuisine and British culture, we’ll get Sprint culture and T-Mobile cuisine…er, spectrum.

        • Stone Cold

          Which will have a nice C&D letter coming their way.

  • Bklynman

    I think Softbank/Sprint know they will soon be number 4,they don’t know how to stop it.
    Who knows,Maybe even Metro will best them as number 4,they end up as number 5.
    Wouldn’t that be something? LoL. U can never tell.

  • http://www.philosophicalreflections.com/ D.A. Elliott

    Good old Sprint terminated my brother’s contract for excessive data use while roaming. Sadly, where he works is literally 15 ft. away from Sprint’s coverage area. The irony is that they actually believed they were in a position to shed customers like that, even when he tried calling them to work it out. Little does he know, they did him a favor. Unfortunately, T-Mobile doesn’t have any coverage in that town outside of EDGE, and so that wasn’t an option. Hopefully though, the low frequency spectrum will change some of that.

    • Jason

      When i despised Sprint for the WiMax failure, I forced roamed like many others did to get released from contract….It took 3 months of 2gb plus for me while others were sucessful after 500mbs in there first month! Sprint is the worst carrier hands down in the U.S.
      It would be horrible if Softbank buy’s TMo….

    • Moby

      Of course Sprint terminated him instead of paying a roaming bill for him that was larger than what he was paying them each month! So they saved money by shutting your brother down.

      • http://www.philosophicalreflections.com/ D.A. Elliott

        Wouldn’t alternatives include charging overages, capping data, changing plans, or simply asking him to turn off data roaming? I would imagine that customer retention ought to be a priority, especially with someone who had over 10 years of service with no late payments and who had been working at the place in question for over two years without any previous problems. While I’m not privy to all of the details, IIRC, it sounded as if there was no warning with respect to an impending termination until a letter was received indicating that his account was going to be unconditionally terminated within two billing cycles. I could be wrong on that point though.

        • Jason

          Your right, some get notices some don’t….I got a notice saying that Sprint ended my service tf zand i was unable to attain services through Sprint….
          I wanted off the network so i dont know if u can appeal….

          Sprint is horrible…

          Sprint still lost money because the roaming was already done when they cancelled….If Sprint would of gave an option to the above customer to pay more to cover the roaming it would of been a win win…

  • ccnet005

    I hope this works for sprint, I’d hate to see our choices reduced to 3 big carriers.
    If that happens you can kiss all your discounts goodbye and pay more for data.
    Wait minute, it’s happening already!!

    • Jason

      To many Sprint already isn’t a choice to even consider….LOL
      I would love the framily plan though, $25 for unlimited talk n txt 1gb of data with option of adding more…..

      • philyew

        You need at least 7 lines on the Framily plan to be paying as little as $25 each. You get that price for 4 lines with TM and 5 lines is $22 each.

        • Jason

          Didn’t realize that, I only have 3 lines….lol
          But with TMo billing isn’t separate like Sprints Framily….
          Framily each line can be separately billed…
          I didnt know it took 7 lines either because when i go to their site on my phone, it never loads right no matter which browser i use LOL

          I’ve seen on craiglist ppl posting their framily id’s to get to 10

        • Moby

          You can get total strangers together to get that price on Sprint. With T-Mobile it has to be on one bill. Just not the same.

        • Nurdface Gamerhandz

          challenge is finding 7 people willing to switch to Sprint :3

        • philyew

          There may be some advantages to a Framily plan, but a lot of people (including the guy to whom I was responding) don’t realize that you have to collect 7 subscribers together in order to get $25/month pricing.

          But tell me this; what happens to the pricing for the four members of your family when the total strangers that you went in with through CraigsList decide to cancel their lines without telling you? Do you keep your $25 each? Or does your bill suddenly shoot up by $60 a month?

        • Moby

          Each person that leaves, it would up your bill by $5. So if you had a family of four the most it would go up to is $40.

        • philyew

          That’s $40 each, right? Increasing your family’s monthly bill by $60…

      • Singleweird

        its 22 at tmo with only 5 lines.

  • Jason

    Not to stick up for Sprint but TMobile wasn’t the first carrier to pay etf’s…..Att use to offer this in the Twin Cities in the early 2000′s but you didnt have to trade in a phone….
    I love TMobile but lets be honest, they weren’t the first carrier to offer incentives to switch carrier’s…..
    If one carrier offers something other carriers aren’t and are sucessful, why wouldn’t the other carriers follow?

    • dontsh00tmesanta

      Your quote would make sense if they still did it.

      • Jason

        Quote? Post maybe what you refering but I stated “TMobile wasn’t the first carrier to offer…” How does that not make sense? TMo would be copying from prior carriers unless they were 1st to do it…
        Sprint is copying TMobile currently, but TMobile copied and rehashed what other carriers have already done….So both TMobile and Sprint copied what others have already done….
        If it still doesn’t make sense idk how i can make it easier to understand….

        • Paul

          T-Mobile sparked a trend within the last several months with AT&T, and now Spring, following the motions. The point is that AT&T wasn’t offering to pay the ETF when Magenta did it recently, and your reference was for almost a decade ago.

          To be fair, even the cellphone industry didn’t originate the “we’ll pay what you owe off for ya” campaign. Car dealerships have been doing it for a long time.

        • Jason

          Exactly you validated what I posted….

          Whether it was a decade or a century, copying is copying….I used the Att example from early 2000′s to show that the specials of this sort have been around a long time….I’m sure if researched enough I could find more deals same or similar more recently….I know Sprint was also doing it after 2005 for limited markets and different duration of times…

          Every carrier copy’s sucessful promotions that rivals promote….Example unlimted data, unlimited minutes, etc etc

          Whoever started the recent trend doesn’t invalidate that it’s already been done….LOL

          Car dealership analogy is bit off though because car dealerships give you your car’s value at what they estimate it’s worth which is normally not even KBB/Nada and if there is negative equity it is rolled into the new auto loan….
          Or if they give you high value on your trade they don’t negotiate the new car purchase value….Apples to oranges maybe even grapefruits at its best for an analogy….

          With mobile trade in your phone value isn’t in question, it’s your etf value and there isn’t an etf when dealing with car loans….

        • Paul

          - The article never said T-Mobile was the first to make this offer
          - AT&T wasn’t the first when they did it a decade ago
          - Everyone copies someone else

        • Jason

          My posts never stated Att was the first carrier….

          My posts never stated that the article mentioned TMo as the first carrier….

          Last sentence of my 1ST POST…questioned why other carriers wouldn’t copy?

          So your replying to me because someone said my post didnt make sense yet all of your points reflect what i posted????

          A little reading comprehension goes a long way on a forum where we reply to blog postings….I’m seriously not trying to be mean or rude….

        • dontsh00tmesanta

          Again since att in 2000 stopped doing why bring it up? tmobiles seem permanent. SPrints isnt

        • Jason

          Att hasn’t stopped, they have varied markets, durations etc etc
          Our discounts seemed permanant aslong as we met set requirements and that almost ended….
          Do you have control over the shareholders of TMo to give that assumption and/or control over who eventually buys out the U.S. division of TMo?
          I brought it up because this is a dicussion forum where people bring up stuff to discuss, I’m very sorry if I forgot to get your approval maybe I missed one of the rules here at TMo that dontshootmesanta is king ding aling here???….

        • dontsh00tmesanta

          Our? hmmmmm

          Dude your post was completely irrelevant to the matter at hand.

        • Jason

          Our as in reference to people that had discounts almost dropped….clearer?
          Well so far a mod hasn’t deleted my post so hmmmmmm

          No comment on how you have inside knowledge that the etf payoffs will continue permantly? I didn’t think so….LOL

          Between you and Paul idk who loves me more…..muah muah

        • dontsh00tmesanta

          O ur still on this?

        • thepanttherlady

          Do you have another source besides what is on T-Mobile’s website?

          Limited time offer; subject to change. At participating stores. Eligible
          device trade-in, new device purchase, qualifying credit, port-in from
          eligible carriers (incl. AT&T, Verizon, and Sprint), and qualifying
          postpaid service required. Payments consist of: (1) credit of device
          trade-in value, and (2) prepaid MasterCard card in amount of carrier’s
          Early Termination Fee. Tax on ETF not included. You must submit final
          bill showing ETF within 2 calendar months of port-in and be active and
          in good standing with T-Mobile when payment is processed; allow up to 8
          weeks. Additional validation may be required. Up to 5 lines; all lines
          must be activated in same T-Mobile market with same billing address. One
          reimbursement per subscriber. Check your contract with your carrier for
          your rights and obligations. MasterCard card is reimbursement on new
          device, service, or port-in; for any tax implications of payment,
          consult a tax advisor. Fastest 4G LTE Network: Based on download speeds.

        • dontsh00tmesanta

          Legere counts right

          Google is your friend

        • Santah@sagun?

          Googled and found same thing panttherlady provided you with.

          Care to direct us to where you seen John Legere state that?

        • dontsh00tmesanta

          I did

        • Santah@sagun?

          Where’s the link? I have yet to see you post any link backing your claim up.

        • dontsh00tmesanta

          Interesting I post it last night your buddies must’ve deleted it anyway here’s the pwnage
          http://www.usatoday.com/story/tech/columnist/baig/2014/01/08/ces-tmobile-early-termination-fee/4379291/

          And you really need to google yourself. It comes in handy took me less than a minute to find this

        • Jason

          Nobody deleted it, you edited your post…LOL
          The USA Today story doesn’t have a qoute with John Legere saying its permanent…
          We didn’t have a need to google it because already knew there wasn’t a quote from John Legere….

        • dontsh00tmesanta

          It is a quote and no editing was done.

          I’m sure the emails yall receive prove that.

          Legere said they are here to stay while att was temporary.

          Now i remember there were his tweets here’s one

        • Jasonj

          U still on this? LOL
          the disclaimer for tmobile is key! if the disclaimer comes down I’ll be the first to say your right buddy!
          With a sale of TMo possibly, the waffling back n forth on discountsdiscounts, anything is possible….
          My one worry of the program is if customers don’t stay with TMo after trade in, TMo will have a hard time selling the traded in phones to make a profit…
          Tmo doesn’t profit off the phones whether eip or buying outright I’d assume…

        • dontsh00tmesanta

          U still on this? Face it I proved you wrong my life is complete now to get back to my life

        • Jason

          Your internet showing no disclaimer?

        • dontsh00tmesanta

          still on this eh? considering the time you take to post and change name each time lol dude let it go. go to school or something

        • Jason

          Actually have been getting paid while I was responding…..My boss came up with the name SantaShootBlanks….LOL
          He was suprised that both you and Jeffie kept responding with nonsense….Last week had paid vacation due to spring break but I suppose a little more schooling could increase my pay ;p

        • dontsh00tmesanta

          Lmao good night

        • dontsh00tmesanta

          Lmao if true there would be no need to explain anything to a random dude on the Internet like me.

          Have a good night tell u r boss it was a miss lol

        • Jason

          I have no problem telling random people that I work…I didn’t explain moreless was “PLAYING” nice as Cam said to….
          I really must of hit a nerve when I proved your dishonesty because now you think everyone’s a liar ….
          In all honesty it been really funny and has made my dull moments dumber but the comedy was free :)

        • dontsh00tmesanta

          Still on this?

        • dontsh00tmesanta

          Also looking more recently…..His zing at sprint saying theirs is only a promo bribe for a month only states to any educated person that tmobiles seems permanent. Also the word seems is in my op so damn the pwnage continues

        • dontsh00tmesanta

          I did but I guess you can’t google

          Here’s some pwnage yes I just used that haha lol
          http://www.usatoday.com/story/tech/columnist/baig/2014/01/08/ces-tmobile-early-termination-fee/4379291/

        • SantaShootsBlanks

          ” T-Mobile insists this not a short-term promotion, but rather the permanent end of contracts.”
          This is your “John Legere” qoute??? That’s not a qoute from John besides the above disclaimer overrides this statement.
          I could qoute yourself from a post above, “TMobile seems permanent”
          By all means I hope it is permanent but no statement by Legere nor TMobile that ensures that it will be forever.

        • dontsh00tmesanta

          Still better than the temporary nature of sprint and att

        • Paul

          Follow me along here:
          “…TMobile wasn’t the first carrier to pay etf’s…..Att use to offer this in the…”
          And AT&T wasn’t the first either. So you’re just making a lame-duck statement when-follow me along here too-the article never even mentions anything saying that T-Mobile was first to offer ETF reimbursement.

          What I’m saying is, your statement is weak to begin with and doesn’t relate to the article. In a forum, it is best if the content one writes is related to the article at being commented on.

          As for the “everyone copies someone else,” Of course they’re going to follow the trend, but Sprint tried the “JUMP” program and failed. It would be likely they wouldn’t have followed this step, let alone do it so closely to what T-Mobile is offering,

          *Just to clarify, some car dealerships will pay off what you owe on your vehicle. This isn’t the KBB value, but the remaining balance; usually up to a certain dollar amount, similar to the ETF offers.

        • Jason

          Wow….its Friday relax enjoy the day

          My statement you state as weak figrs perfectly into the dicussion topic of an offer that Sprint copied

          I’m sorry that we have difference of opinions but you win if thats ehat will make happy ;p

          Some dealerships? Where lead me to them please, i’d love to trade in my van thats worth 8k in trade in value but I owe 11k on a 3.5% interest rate…..
          I’ve bought from atleast 5 dealerships and then including close family n friends and have yet to hear a dealership lose money on either trade-in or purchase unless it was a clerical error….
          Most likely u seen an ad that states that they’ll pay ur remaining balance but when it comes to sale price the extra money they’ll lose on your trade in gets figrd into the sale price of ur new vehicle….

          Now the car dealership analogy is way off topic and very irrelevant to subject at hand….Normally a good analogy can relate without any discussion and doesn’t use the minority for it’s leg to stand

          But add a victory to your win total please, I swear I’m dumbing down myself each time I respond…

        • Paul

          It was never a win/lose situation, but you didn’t seem to follow the conversation easily. Go have a mojito.

    • UMA_Fan

      Most ETF offers in the past were usually bill credits

      • Jason

        I know I wasn’t inferring the bill credit programs but that adds even more offers that could qualify as the same thing….
        They also have had the bill credit offers where it doesn’t cover the whole etf so thats why i didnt mention them….
        I agree 115% with you….
        Alot of the bill credits were mail-in rebates which are horrible…

    • Nurdface Gamerhandz

      First major carrier in the modern smartphone era. nTelos paid my ETF on Verizon to switch in 2011, but they had and still have about half a million total subs.

      • Jason

        This post full of win….
        While I like TMobiles momentum of paying etf’s, it only can go so far….
        Coverage needs to be there otherwise the customers thinking of switching will start to wane…..
        Currently TMo’s adding customers thru the etf program payoff, Verizon without etf program added more customers than TMo…

        Etf payoff provided a well needed boost and so far has been a sucessful promotion but value is in the eye of the beholder….
        More people are willing to pay more and join Verizon as of now then join the reinvigorated TMo….

        Wasn’t Windows smartphones pre Win phone 7 modern….lol jk
        Windows 6.0 and before were terrible, I had like 12 cab files I had to use to make it run….
        I remember how excited I was when I bought my HTC Touch Pro, I also remember how quickly I was disappointed…. :)

  • Paul

    The prepaid card is kinda yellow.

  • derrick

    I have both sprint and T-Mobile service. and they both have their flaws. As far as my LET service goes with sprint I’ve had nothing but great service with them. Sadly on my recent trip I had to put my T-mobile phone away cause it wasn’t providing me the service I needed. When it came to Sprint it worked.

    But let’s be honest. Even though Tmo is adding customers there really no telling how many is leaving and how many won’t come due to the whole discount issue. Both sprint and tmo have damaged reps that need serious repairing.

    • thatguy

      actually they can tell how many are leaving, thats called churn, and most of the metrics you see listed when talking about customer adds are NET. Tmobile has extremely low churn numbers since uncarrier and it really shows they are doing something right.

  • Moby

    Sprint is the first carrier to offer to pay of T-Mobile’s customers Equipment Installment Fee. Now T-Mobile customers that are stuck can finally escape.

    • vrm

      from the frying pan into the fire !

    • Paul

      It’s the only part that sets them apart, and would draw Magenta customers. But what if my balance is above $350? Sprint won’t want my service?

      • Moby

        You could pay the rest yourself.

  • Guest

    Nice color. Must have gotten it from Aio.

    • Cam Bunton

      Hehehe..

      • The REAL Jeff Grace

        Cam please correct what is happening with Jason.and whover posted what is under my name or using my name “jeff grace making stuff up “as it is not me

        • Jason

          ROFL!
          R uuu thrEatning m3? Other measures? HaHa
          Atleast you finally told us that you were making stuff up as if we didn’t already know!!!

        • Cam Bunton

          Play nice Jason.

        • Jason

          Allright ;p
          Key thing to note is none of my post have threatened anybody here ROFL, I have only asked for proof of misleading or false statements….

        • Jeff Grace

          And Jason i don’t have to provide you proof of anything. But I admitted that I may be wrong for now about the limited data cap for Sprint .It still is only a matter of time.

        • Jason

          I agreed to play nice in above post to Cam….I only asked for proof didn’t demand….Anyone can speculate based off their opinion but speculating your opinion as fact is ridiculous and still remains an opinion….
          Your post stating you had an inside source that you couldn’t divulge and now that you are backtracking and admitting you lied (for whatever reason, which is beyond me) shows your lack of credibility and integrity…. :)

        • Jeff Grace

          Ok,Jason..I am going to just close this issue ..and let the companies pan things out how ever they do. If I have sources then I do .

        • Jeff Grace

          And If I did have a source I have every right not to divulge it ,Cam Bunton doesn’t divulge his sources. I like Cam try to be accurate with what we find out or hear about.I researched what I was saying more than my source and turned out not to be as accurate for now,Sprint may choose to get rid of UNLIMITED Data soon. I will let you take this how you will. But I am closing the matter.

        • Jeff Grace

          I said and was getting at that there is a good chance Srpint will follow through like their MVNO as well as the at&t and Verizon with capping or getting rid of UNLIMITED and then T-Mobile would be the only one left-therefore tmobile grows to number 3 carrier sprint dissapears or goes to number 4 . I was being honest with you that my phone like everyone elses type extra periods or guesses at spellings. I was not saying was my fault or a excuse coming clean about it…you calling people eractc things caused me to get irritated and call you out. Homer Simpson come on. Im 35 far from the age you say.

  • austinsho

    Nice background. Must have gotten it from Aio’s going out of business sale.

  • jeff grace

    Sprint had a ETF payment promo once before it failed. .90 days before you get rebate or gift card. Only if on time payments do you get it. Same applies to new PROMO key word month PROMO. T-Mobile is a permanent thing not a PROMO. Even them paying EIP of T-Mobile or other carrier ,ita not enough money spring is giving in promo to pay ETF or EIP or both depending on carrier. And sprint is CONTRACT T-Mobile is not. Sprint wont capatalize on the PROMO

    • thepanttherlady

      According to T-Mobile’s website:

      Limited time offer; subject to change. At participating stores. Eligible
      device trade-in, new device purchase, qualifying credit, port-in from
      eligible carriers (incl. AT&T, Verizon, and Sprint), and qualifying
      postpaid service required. Payments consist of: (1) credit of device
      trade-in value, and (2) prepaid MasterCard card in amount of carrier’s
      Early Termination Fee. Tax on ETF not included. You must submit final
      bill showing ETF within 2 calendar months of port-in and be active and
      in good standing with T-Mobile when payment is processed; allow up to 8
      weeks. Additional validation may be required. Up to 5 lines; all lines
      must be activated in same T-Mobile market with same billing address. One
      reimbursement per subscriber. Check your contract with your carrier for
      your rights and obligations. MasterCard card is reimbursement on new
      device, service, or port-in; for any tax implications of payment,
      consult a tax advisor. Fastest 4G LTE Network: Based on download speeds.

      • jeff grace

        Ok panther lady, John legere said that it is not a PROMO like other carriers and that it is here to stay. The other info is correct that you gave stated.

        • thepanttherlady

          *panttherlady ;)

          Let me know when they take the clause off the website.

        • jeff grace

          Will do,I know they have the info up there like that to protect themsleves ,and so they can change the ETF scenario when need be . I just know John Legere has stated its not a Promotion and that it was here to stay. Atlwast until uncarrier 5.0 changes something again.

        • Jeff Grace Be Making Up Stuff

          Care to share the quote? I’m sure you have a link handy ;p

        • The real Jeff Grace

          Its not wise to post stuff with my name in tow. I will report this and you Will be removed from the site..hey cam Bunton ..if he doesnt due it I will take other measures.You whoever you are and Jason have been on my ass like white on rice. Fine I may of made some things that may or may not be true at this time. I am going to say that sprints MVNO ,BOOST,VIRGIN etc are at 2.5GB cap for high speed at one time they were unlimited for said cost other MVNO have unlimited except Sprint to my recollection. It is only a matter of time before the other two MVNO ,AT&T & Verizon eliminate their unlimited as they have for the contract part of it.

          Sprint will eventually follow suit with eliminating unlimited all together as the company is loosing a crap load of money and subcribers by the day.

          Verizon is wanting to have all phones updated to new technology 4G or LTE phones or newer ,as they will be having all 2G for prepaid and partial 3G for prepaid ,to eventually turn that band into dual band LTE- A they wont tell the customers this .

          T-Mobile will not follow suit with the above three and will keep unlimited data and have LTE -A rilled out here soon as well as some other tech they are working on with a company to cover more rural areas. They will in 6 months to 18 months turn all 2g or 3g into 4G or LTE or both.

          My guess is they will surpass Sprint in customer adds and become number 3 real soon,and buy out sprint and us cellular. Since Mr John Legere knows Mr Son or Sprint I am pretty sure Legere will be CEO of Sprint and keep the name T-Mobile and the now CEO Mr Hesse will step down as he is ready to retire..I.guess we will all have to see if this comes to the light of day and reality .

  • jeff grace

    T-Mobile facts Cheaper service ,real customer service,no contracts, no extra fees ,no smartphone fee,real fast LTE just to name a few

    Sprint facts more pricey,promo only,doesnt listen to customers,hightaxes and fees overpriced rates no unlimited data,no real lte per say slow LTE 3 x charge for smartphones, contracts, lie to customer’s

    • maximus1901

      No unlimited data? Isn’t that what their $20 add on is?

  • jeff grace

    Sprint says unlimited data ,but capped at 2.5 GB ,waive right to lawyer when sign contract,they can change your plan without consent from you,call customer service to much they can shut your service off. You pay for device 3 x cost if trade in u pay on old and new past 2 years. 1GB data per customer on framily sprint is NOT the way to go

    • Moby

      Sprint doesn’t cap their fully unlimited plans at 2.5GB. That’s nonsense.

      • Jason

        You were able to understand that run on paragraph? LOL
        I tried like 3 times and gave up….

      • jeff grace

        Yes they do ,and the other stuff is in new contracts…fall into sprints scam they dont have real unlimited. ..the.idea of framilIs to wein th. Customer off the 2.5GB so called unlimited to 1GB framily and then get rid of the unlimited Bullshit. Believing Sprints crap gots you tasting the milk to much…T-Mobile is thE only real unlimited .

        • maximus1901

          That applies to virgin and boost, not sprint brand.

        • Moby

          That is just false! Produce the “new contract” that says Sprint will cap it’s truly unlimited plans at 2.5GB. You can’t do it because you are making this up.

        • jeff grace

          Slow down cap at 2.5.GB is not in contract from. Internal procedure. The lawyer waive right,change of bill cycle or plan etc is in new contracts fine print.

        • Moby

          What’s your source that it is an internal procedure?

        • jeff grace

          I will not divulge that

      • jeff grace

        Even though the future definitely looks bright for Sprint - especially given its recent acquisition of Clearwire and future cash infusion from Softbank – many people still want out of their contracts. The grass is always greener on the other side, and lucky for those who have been waiting for a way to leave Sprint without paying the early termination fee (ETF), it seems as if an opportunity might have just presented itself.

        Effective July 1, 2013, Sprint changed its postpaid contracts in a way that legally should allow anyone to leave without paying the ETF. Sprint, of course, denies that any of its changes are grounds for terminating a subscriber’s contract, but many people seem to think that the law doesn’t side with Sprint this time.

        After combing through countless forum threads and cached Google sites that Sprint conveniently took down, along with a bit of legal investigative work of my own, I have come up with four significant changes that Sprint has implemented, each of which are grounds for cancelling your contract without being required to pay the ETF. Of course, I’m not a lawyer, and I’m not qualified to give legal advice, so you should only interpret this as my opinion – however, I strongly believe that these arguments would stand up in court, if necessary.

        1. Sprint removed the right to a lawyer during arbitration.

        Sprint’s new contract terms state (emphasis mine): “Instead of suing in court, you and Sprint agree to arbitrate all Disputes (as defined below) on an individual, non-representative, basis.” In the old contract, this section stated: “We each agree to arbitrate all Disputes between us, on an individual basis, not on a class-wide or consolidated basis.”

        The addition of the word “non-representative” seems to imply that you are not allowed to have a lawyer represent you during arbitration with Sprint. In other words, by agreeing to the new terms, you effectively waive your right in the future to an attorney.

        2. Sprint can now disconnect phone calls at whim.

        Sprint added this sentence to the new contract: “Call time for a single call may be subject to a maximum duration and may be automatically terminated if the maximum duration is exceeded.” This sentence didn’t exist anywhere, in any form, in the previous terms. In effect, it allows Sprint to terminate any call it wants, purely at its whim, and cite the excuse that it exceeded a “maximum duration” that Sprint doesn’t define anywhere else in the contract. This seems incompatible with the “unlimited” plans that Sprint advertises so heavily – if you signed up for service that was advertised as unlimited, and Sprint can now disconnect calls at its whim, this seems like a good reason to leave without paying an ETF.

        3. Sprint can now change your rate plan to whatever it wants.

        Sprint also added another new sentence in the new contract, which (again) doesn’t appear anywhere in the old one: “If you lose your eligibility for a particular rate plan or if a particular rate plan is no longer supported or available, we may change your rate plan to one for which you qualify.”

        This in effect gives Sprint the right to change pricing, with absolutely no grandfathering clause. At any time, for any reason, Sprint can decide that you are no longer eligible for a particular rate plan. Alternately, it can decide to simply no longer support unlimited data. Since Sprint has taken away the option to grandfather your existing rate plan, this seems to be as good a reason as any to cancel without an ETF. (On a side note, could this be Sprint preparing to finally do away with unlimited data on smartphones?)

        4. Sprint can call you anywhere, at any time, using auto-dialers.

        Finally, Sprint added an entirely new paragraph called, “Contacting You Regarding Billing and Collections.” Here it is, in its entirety:

        You expressly authorize, and specifically consent to allowing Sprint and any of Sprint’s agents to contact you in connection with any and all matters relating to unpaid past due charges you owe Sprint. You agree that, for attempts to collect unpaid past due charges, Sprint and any of its agents may contact you at any mailing address, telephone number, cellular phone number, email address, or any other electronic address that you have provided, or may in the future provide, to Sprint. You agree and acknowledge that any e-mail address or any other electronic address that you provide to Sprint is your private address and is not accessible to unauthorized third parties. For attempts to collect unpaid charges, you agree that in addition to individual persons attempting to communicate directly with you, any type of contact described above may be made using, among other methods, pre-recorded or artificial voice messages delivered by an automatic telephone dialing system, pre-set e-mail messages delivered by an automatic e-mailing system, or any other pre-set electronic messages delivered by any other automatic electronic messaging system.

        The most concerning portion of this new section is that you are agreeing to be contacted by “automatic telephone dialing systems” and “pre-recorded or artificial voice messages.” You are also agreeing to be contacted at absolutely any address, phone number, or email address you have ever provided to Sprint in the past – ever.

        Since Sprint obtains your credit report when you start service, and this clause involves debt collection, it is actually illegal for Sprint to do this: under the Fair Debt Collection Practices Act of 1977, Sprint is a debt collector. And according to the Federal Trade Commission, “A debt collector may not contact you at inconvenient times or places, such as before 8 in the morning or after 9 at night, unless you agree to it. And collectors may not contact you at work if they’re told (orally or in writing) that you’re not allowed to get calls there.”

        Additionally, the Telephone Consumer Protection Act of 1991 protects people from being contacted over the phone by auto-dialers unless they specifically agree to it.

        So, will Sprint let you out of your contract for free?

        Probably not. After all, it wants to keep squeezing every penny out of you that it can, so it most likely will make it as hard as possible for you to quit. Some lawyers have even suggested sending certified letters to Sprint explaining your intent to cancel, and disputing the early termination fee in arbitration or in small claims court. As with all things of this nature, your mileage may vary, even though it seems like the law sides with you.

        Full disclosure: I’m attempting to get out of my contract using these changes. So far, I’ve been unsuccessful, although I’ve made some headway and am waiting to hear back about my individual situation. Many other people have been rejected over the phone and have given up on trying to cancel their service.

        If you are successful at getting out of your Sprint contract, let us know what methods you used! If not, share your story anyway, and let us know what your next steps will be. Just remember that ultimately Sprint is not acting in the best interest of consumers, and you are justified in your attempts to cancel your service without incurring any extra charges. You are standing up for your rights as a consumer, and if you have enough time, willingness, and determination, you can win this battle – even if it means getting the BBB, FCC, or FTC involved, or even ending up in the legal system.

        [Sprint | Diff Checker | SlickDeals: 1, 2 | FTC]

        Updated 7/12/13: Sprint sent Pocketables the following message regarding these contract changes:

        Sprint made some changes to its Terms and Conditions, effective July 2013, which clarified its practices related to collections and arbitration and removed provisions unique to its iDEN services. Sprint does not view the changes as material changes that would warrant early termination fee waivers. As always, customers are free to contact Sprint to discuss issues, including those related to their unique Service Agreement with Sprint,  so we can work with them to resolve any service or account-related issues.

        ****I will give you the the unlimited data scenerio for prepaid MVNO or Sprint wireless ,but I have heard they are considering 2.5 GB cap for CONTRACT. .granted computers arent doing it.

        • Moby

          Tmobile has a similar passage in their contract that they can change your plan at any time.

          But the fact remains that Sprint Unlimited is still unlimited, just like T-Mobile.

        • jeff grace

          Ok…I can tell you with Sprint adding the new Framily @1GB per up to 10 people I believe that for one is a PROMO like the ETF thing is they just started or will soon. Framily is there to attract customers new and current in hopes they switch to Framily ,and eventually get rid of UNLIMITED Data all together..the big three Sprint.AT&T and Verizon do simular deals and plans,they sometimes wait to see the effectivness of it before changing themsleves ,Verizon heavely relies on this.T-Mobile does not and will not go along with typical carrier moves in the cell phone insdustry.T-Mobile is the UN-Carrier they do keep a eye on the key players and will have similarities of them ,but they usually find the faults of what the main three come out with and make it way better,to change the industry and disrupt it ,from the typical money hungry carrier agenda, yes all cell phone companies or companies in general love money and need it to operate,but no at the point of greed verus services rendered.Think Verizon, John Legere has stated that he WILL change the cell industry and they will change no matter what.He calls this stupidly of the industry and pain points and has eliminated a majority or them with each UN-Carrier move he has done. 5.0 is next one of the Magenta Revolution .Experience a real carrier Tmobile is that a leader not a follower now. T-Mobile HAS the fastest LTE not Verizon HD Audio intergrated WIFI into cellphone op system not an app pre installed like other carriers. T-Mobile test phones longer than any carrier before released to general public and so much more…

        • Moby

          Sprint offers 1GB or you can upgrade to unlimited. T-Mobile offes 1GB or you can upgraded to unlimited. Except T-Mobile charges $30 for the upgrade to unlimited now and Sprint only charges $20. But I don’t see any evidence that Sprint is trying to get rid of unlimited. Just giving customers more choice.

        • jeff G

          I am reffering to the Sprint Framily Plans 1GB per device. Not normal plans.

        • Jason

          This is the post i thought you typed legibly but come to find out its copy and paste from Pockettables or Slickdeals? Your citing something from July of last year and what you did you save it this whole time just to share for us…..

          I’m sorry that you want or /ed to get out of your sprint contract for free….The only time you can get out etf free is if there as adverse change like a raise in cost of service for something you were already utilizing….Pay or swallow your etf fee and mobe on with your life, your enjoyimg and saving with TMobile now right?

    • yoda

      Unlimited means unlimited at any speed, they can slow you down and still keep their promise.Look at the wording, somehow people think unlimited means unlimited at higher speeds all the time. Companies are ambiguous on purpose.

      • jeff grace

        Point taken,but sprint slows you down at 2.5GB plain and simple, with T-Mobile it is real LTE with no I repeat no slow down..it is truly UNLIMITED period Sprint is not #SprintLikeHell and come to T-Mobile. ..see what you all are missing,I am not affilited with T-Mobile. Nore Sprint and I don’t work for them. I am a very happy T-Mobile cucustomer. Sprint is done for. Keep in mind John Legere T-Mobile CEO knows Mr Son personally and if anything of a merger Legere would be at the helm sprint CEO Would not nore would Son..

        T-Mobile is not a fad ,they are here to stay and conquer, the train will not stop, magenta is stron . No lies and promotions needed like other carriers. Its a magenta revolution. …come Join

      • Jay Holm

        All 30 days of my billing cycle I get high speed data on T-Mobile, they don’t play BS and screw customers over like Sprint!

        • jeff grace

          You tell em Jay Holm,we know what is correct

        • yoda

          what are you talking about. My point is valid and neutral. your opinions are biased based on your post. I’m not for or against either company, I’m just letting you know that technically sprint still gives you unlimited data even thought its not at high speed all the time, although I cannot verify that information, and i refuse to take your word for it. but who cares.

        • yoda

          Sounds like a hyperbole to me, i have tmobile and my signal inside my house tends to drop every once and awhile so i dont experience high speed data all the time. I’m sure you dont either. But to make my point clear unlimited does not mean unlimited high speed all the time, having unlimited 2g is still unlimited. Don’t go off the point and pay attention to what i wrote.

  • William Burr Winans

    Well the only thing I have to say is Sprint and AT&T are scared of T-Mobile. I wish T-Mobile would sue Sprint because it’s the same color Aio Wireless used, but I do not its going to happen because T-Mobile are laughing at Sprint and AT&T trying to compete the UnCarrier. Keep Upgrading Towers T-Mobile!!

    • Moby

      Sue them for what? There’s no law that says you can’t use a certain color in a certain advertisement. That’s ridiculous.

      What AIO got sued for was trademark infringement. Sprint has infringed on anything. Where do you come up with this?

      • Singleweird

        These Marks Rules set forth basic rules about how to properly use the trademarks, service marks, trade names, logos, designs, icons, slogans, trade dress, sounds, colors, and other source identifying devices of T-Mobile USA, Inc. (the “TMUS Marks”) and, Deutsche Telekom AG, which is the owner and licensor of the T-MOBILE family of trademarks (the “DT Marks”). The DT Marks and TMUS Marks are collectively referred to as the “Marks”. By following these Marks Rules, you help Deutsche Telekom AG (“DT”) and T-Mobile protect their rights in their respective Marks.

        colors.

        • Jason

          What’s TMobile waiting for if what you say is true?

        • maximus1901

          Cause they want sprint to buy them? Duh.

        • Jason Anderson

          Sprint Tmobile buyout/merger has major antitrust concerns…..
          I give it 1% chance of any buyout/merger between the two carriers…

          Instead of armchairing and ending posts with the highly sophisticated word “duh”, I actually did some researching…. :)

          “The first question to answer is whether you are actually using a color in a trademark manner to indicate the source of your products or services. Being able to claim color as a protected trademark can provide a very powerful advantage if the color has no particular function or meaning in the industry in which it is used. However, the entity claiming color as a trademark must showcase the color as a source indicator for its products or services in its marketing campaigns and advertising materials to be able to assert trademark rights”

          “whatever color is used, it must not be “functional” in any respect in the industry in which it is used. Various “functionality” tests have been developed by the courts over time, and some of the factors used to assess the functionality of an alleged trademark include:
          whether the design (or color) yields utilitarian advantage,
          whether alternative designs (or colors) are available,
          whether advertising touts utilitarian advantages of the design (or color), and
          whether the particular design (or color) results from a comparatively simple or inexpensive method of manufacture.”
          quoted from
          mintz.com/newsletter/2012/Advisories/2243-0912-NAT-IP/index.html
          broke link i think idk if allowed to post links

        • Jason

          Antitrust concerns make that buyout/merger very unlikely to happen…

          Sprint met with US regs halfway thru Feb about the buyout…..At that time Sprint was told most likely not going to happen….
          The recent news reports state Softbank’s Ceo’s desire while repeating the likelihood as slim to none….

          Do you think any sane lawyer would advise TMobile to not do anything to stop trademark infringement on the grounds that there is a slim to none chance buyout would happen?
          Do you think Tmobile after being paid by ATT in case buyout was to fail, would keep quiet for free and allow Sprint to use it likeness to steal market share which would lower TMo’s potential value if and when the sale of TMo happens?

          Judging by your use of “duh”, it might make your brain explode if you actually reand and/or answer those 2 questions…LOL

          I just don’t think the shade of hue is the exact hue of TMo nor do I think a limited time advertisment would have legs in any trademark suit unless more criteria was met….
          I’m not a copyright lawyer but I did more than ask my brain to form an opinion, I actually searched around on the Interwebs before making a statement within a post…

        • Moby

          Again, it doesn’t mean you can’t use a particular color in your advertisement just because it is the color of someone’s logo. Or else T-Mobile couldn’t use blue, yellow, orange, red or black in it’s advertisements. There is no law that says having a pink background in an ad is a trademark violation, and you can’t show such a law.

        • Jason

          We are aligned with same opinion but you can be sued for colors for trademarks but certain critea has to met….
          I don’t think this ad infinges but comes close….
          cuthttp://www.mintz.com/newsletter/2012/Advisories/2243-0912-NAT-IP/index.htmlandpaste
          takeout “cut”and “andpaste” i don’t know if links are allowed here…..

        • Jason

          i guess no links…LOL

          mintz.com/newsletter/2012/Advisories/2243-0912-NAT-IP/index

          add www. and .com
          2nd times a charm???

        • Jason

          ww w. min tz. com/ new sletter/2 012/ Advis ories/224 3-0912 -NAT- IP/inde x.htm l

          3rd time lucky??takeout spaces
          i posted full link, post deleted posted partial and the link broke LOL

    • http://youtube.com/2Bunny2012 Channel 2012

      Sprint scared of TMobile? TMobile has such a useless service footprint that finding a TMobile signal is like trying to find a needle in a haystack. With Sprint’s new 1×800 network upgrades, they’re the exact opposite of TMobile (trying to find a place without coverage is a needle-in-a-haystack situation) – and there’s EvDo and LTE to boot.

      I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again, you get what you pay for.

  • ronjon400

    so they’re gonna pay you to switch to their service……that has no service.
    not for nothing, go to the yellow website and try to add devices and get a framily plan going….wow very cumbersome. people like to click and order, they can’t even do that right.

  • Don Kim

    It won’t attract T-Mo customers, because THERE ARE NO EARLY TERMINATION FEES on T-Mo! HAHAHAHA

    • thepanttherlady

      Did you read the article?

      “And – while you may be tempted to think T-Mobile customers are exempt since they technically don’t have early termination fees, Sprint is also offering to pay off up to $350 of your EIP.

      • Jay Holm

        If Sprint moved 2-3x faster with Spark, and carrier aggregation, I might be I interested. But they only intend to cover 100m with Spark in 2014, that’s just not ambitious enough, compared to the 209m T-Mobile covered with LTE in only 8mo’s. Also, for a fallback network, T-Mobile is the only network in the U.S. that has HSPA+42. EVDO Rev A is garbage and unusable.

        • maximus1901

          H+42 is disappearing no? They’re cannibalizing AWS for lte and TMO isn’t doing h 42 in pcs.

          Ev do is unusable if there’s not fast backhaul. On full sprint upgraded sites, people get 1-2.6mbps, definitely usable.
          In anaheim TMO bloooooows. Outdoors. Indoors. Midnight.
          I’d love to have gotten 1-2mnps consistently on iPhone 4s.

        • dontsh00tmesanta

          Only in places they need to. Which is very few

      • Cam Bunton

        And there was me thinking that if I typed it, everyone would read it and notice that the offer included EIP installments..

  • Brian Richards

    Hilarious that they used Magenta for the background color.

  • jeff grace

    Trust me its 2.5 GB high speed on their slow harldly existing LTE or slower. And after its drops to 3g or 2g speeds. Sprint will not tell you this ,I have resources that know what they do. T-Mobile is the only Legit no throttle company with unlimited data. Sprint network is not capable of the net adds and traffic…they are still updating thier system to do this. I can read just fine Jason. Accidental periods and errors are do to phones mistakes. I have been in the industry before, have worked for all cell companies in the past except T-Mobile, trust me I know what crap they pull.

  • Jason

    So are you Homer Simpson? I’ve never met any cartton characters outside of Nickelodeon Universe and you can tell those guys are wearing costumes….

    “Accidental periods and errors are do to phone mistakes” Full of Win!

    Trust me, can’t divulge sources, what’s next your related to John Legurre?

  • jeff G

    Jason you are very childish. .we adults have no problem admitting to mistakes may it be my person fault or my phone. Either way it doesn’t matter. I have no affiliation with John Legere the CEO of T-Mobile of any carrier for that fact ,I have worked for the big three in one shape or form in the past,orginal sprint,original at&t and airtouch ,now known as Verizon. As well as Alltel. So I have a vast knowledge of the cellular industry as a whole then and now. Your childish comments about animated cartoons of a overun show that needs to end.and comparing me to that just shows the inferior mentality you have in that thing called a brain.

  • Jason

    you ranted in three consecutive posts with run on sentences, gramatical errors, mispellings,with information that is simply not true for no other reason then glamorizing your love for TMo….

    When you were hired for any of the big three, did you write your information as you have above? Your post’s are what i expect from a 14 year old that just learned how to use the internet….

    To top it off i know of atleast 5 sprint customers in the last six months to have terminated services with Sprint with only paying ETF…1 of those five, happens to be my neighbor, that hasn’t been throttled and used atleast 10gb of lte used….

    All your “inside information that can’t be divulged” is false and can be be factchecked by doing a simple look at sprint website. Furthermore you could check within sprintusers website, howard forums within sprint section, xda etc, etc….I could list even more websites that are also independent from Sprint Corp…

    It really hurts deep inside my heart that I was told I have an inferior mentality by someone who blames their phone for their opinions looking Illiterate and illegible… Cumon LOL

    Do you even know what inferior mentality means because your use of it makes absolutely no sense….

    I’m done feeding you, its making you use big words….1 post you actually posted legible but that was even short lasted….LOL