T-Mobile’s UnCarrier Phase 3 Begins Tomorrow, What Do You Want To See?

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We’re a little over 24 hours away from T-Mobile’s unveiling of the third phase of their three-pronged attack at changing the face of the wireless industry. With their first two Phases already showing signs of success and investor praise, T-Mobile has big expectations for what is expected to be the third and last phase of UnCarrier for 2013. The announcement of Shakira at a ticketed event as a performer as many speculating that the announcement will in some part contain international news. That’s something we’ve already suggested as rumors have come to our attention that involve free calls around North America.

That being said, there’s plenty of speculation about what else T-Mobile could have in store for tomorrow. New rate plans, LTE news, 2G coverage report and so much more are all being discussed as possibilities. Along with that, there have been whispers that T-Mobile will begin moving their entire customer base onto the Simple Choice no-contract rate plan with various special offers to entice a quick move. Could T-Mobile drop or drastically lower the migration fee to bring their contract customer base over quickly? Will T-Mobile remove deposit requirements for service altogether?

Let the speculation begin and let your wish list flow.

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  • Roger Sales

    I think its the migration to simple choice with no penalty. Customer service representatives already let you migrate without a penalty if you want to change your service plan – implying that corporate is encouraging people to streamline to the new plans and make everything easier for the future.

    When you reference deposits, are you talking about the difference between well qualified customers and building credit customers?(People who are “building credit” have to put up almost half the cost of the phone right away.)

    • fsured

      I got charged $100 to switch one of my lines 3 weeks ago. In 7 months when I’ve been with the company for 5yrs they will let me move my other 2 lines with no fee’s. There is the Bridge to Value option which won’t charge you fees but you have to be about 6 months (I forgot the actual number) before the contract ends. This is what was explained to me when I called asking how it could be done.

      • kalel33

        At least you get to be out of your contract. Because my contract is with the Value plan I don’t get any deal such as that. It’s weird, the Classic plan people can break their contract but Value plan customers can’t.

  • S. Ali

    Coverage. Everything else they are doing is excellent.

    • Paul

      I noticed Verizon is boasting about their stranger network coverage…and T-Mobile/Metro PCS was on the map used in the commercial.

      I do hope they expand the coverage-I don’t have issues but plenty of people do.

      • kalel33

        To be fair, building towers in the rural areas doesn’t give much or any return on investment, except people know they have coverage everywhere with a good data signal. Heck, my hometown of 3,500 has LTE coverage and the 6 hour drive has LTE all the way there. T-mobile? 2G the entire way and at my hometown. T-mobile has chosen to have their towers where they make the most money and leave the rest to mostly roaming. That’s a sound strategy but they’ll never compete against AT&T and Verizon with that thought process, no matter how uncarrier they try to be.

    • thirty5thrifters

      This is really their big weakness right now. If I’m in a larger city area coverage is great. Once I’m out more rural areas (such as where I live) Edge everywhere. I would love for them to at least discuss time frames. It really is a bummer when I’m stuck on Edge and my friends have 3g/4g.

      • fsured

        To take your comment further, even inside of larger cities the signal and speed can do drastic changes. Downtown Austin has 1 bar of LTE giving horrid speeds when just north of it (UT Austin campus) I’m seeing 20mb+. I use HSPA+ downtown because it has the better signal, speeds, and battery life. Travel a bit to the east and even HSPA+ is getting 3-4mb down which is more than LTE if the 1 bar of signal actually works. So even within cities the signal is not a constant. Coverage is their weakest link.

        • Paul

          Similar in Dallas, and likely do to how many people are on a tower. I live just north of Dallas and have AMAZING speeds, even with 1-2 bars of service.
          I do understand though, sometimes it’s LTE and the speed is terrible; building and tower usage can REALLY drag it down.

    • samsavoy

      If you said the same thing last year you would have 32+ downvotes instead of 32+ upvotes. I’m glad people are starting to feel the same way.

  • Luis Medina

    I have a value 1000 family plan, if they switch me to simple choice for about the same price I have now I’d be cool with that. I pay about $100 with tax. I have text and truly unlimited on one line.

    • Adrayven

      I have unlimited text, voice, data (true unlimited) under simple choice for $70/mo.. ok, add EIP for $20/mo and I’m at $90.. You have other phones on the family plan for that $100/mo?

      • Luis Medina

        I have 4 phones in total.

        • Zacamandapio

          You have a great plan. I remember the Value Plans.
          I switched to the 4-line for $100 everything unlimited but I have extras. In total my bill is $130 but it’s worth it.

        • Luis Medina

          Yeah and we barely use half of the minutes. If they switch me for 5 more dollars to simple choice I’ll take it but I’m good with what I have.

        • thepanttherlady

          I’m still on a Value plan with 3 lines. 2 lines are unlimited everything, 3rd line has 500 minutes, unlimited texting and no data and is free until January 2014. $5 after that. Cost before taxes, JUMP! (for my one daughter) etc. is $125.

  • Paul

    – Carly to come back :)
    – expanding coverage/upgrading outter areas for better speeds and cell signal
    – some card tricks and magic stuff, bunnies from a hat, etc.
    – move to no-contract, from a contract, with no penalty
    – bear on a unicycle…juggling
    – better cell signal in buildings (I know, but we can hope to get frequencies that can)
    – free streaming TV and movies…TOTALLY FREE
    – Magenta pays off my student loans

  • I’d like to see them offer wifi calling to anyone using their service, not just specific phones. That’d go a long way to building penetration issues with what bands they have.

    And another vote for Carly’s return.

    • fsured

      Check out Viber. It’s free and works with international calling/ txt messaging. It routes the communications to your phone and doesn’t require a different phone number either.

      • I’m extremely wary of Viber, or any “free” service where I don’t know how they get their money.

        • fsured

          Very valid concern but if you have a rooted phone or Google Edition then T-Mobile WiFi isn’t an option. It would be nice if they bring back the downloadable application instead of building it into the manufacture framework. Try Bobsled which is from T-Mobile but read the user reviews first. Some are not liking it.

        • rootnote2guy

          Rooted phines can most certainly have wifi calling. Flash a room that has it built in

        • fsured

          By rooted I’m referring to those who use a developer rom based off of pure android and build it from there. Sure you can have a rooted stock phone and use the same software on the phone originally or flash a rom that is based from stock.

  • 21stNow

    Please don’t try to force me to a Simple Choice plan. I’ve seen it and don’t want it.

    I want a $100 credit on the full-price of phones if purchased upfront for customers who have had 12 consecutive on-time bill payments.

    • John

      Why would you deserve a credit for paying your bill? They provided your service that you paid for, that pretty much covers what they owe you for paying the bill.

      • 21stNow

        The on-time bill payment was a caveat that I put in for T-Mobile’s interests. My interest is in a $100 credit for an upfront payment. There is a benefit to T-Mobile to have all of the money upfront as opposed to coming in in installments.

        I’m one of the main ones that will post on forums to say that on-time bill payments are supposed to happen and that there shouldn’t be rewards for it. I put the caveat in so that late-payers wouldn’t be eligible for the $100 credit for device purchases.

        • Adrayven

          Eh? ^?

        • 21stNow

          What’s the question?

        • guidomus_maximus

          I’d like $100 from Shell for paying my bill. Can anyone set me up with that? It would be really cool if I could get money from Chevy for making my car payment. I think if could do that with enough companies, I could use the money to buy a new phone, That would be sweet. More companies should just rain down money if you pay your bill on time. Life would be bliss.
          Let us know how this works out. I think we are all interested in getting large piles of money for paying our bills.

        • philyew

          You are completely missing the point, which was explained pretty clearly.

          Forget about the paying-on-time issue for a moment. The proposition was that TM could give a $100 credit to people who paid for their phone in full at the time of purchase, rather than drip feeding their payment through the EIP. As 21stNow pointed out, there is some financial advantage to TM in receiving the money in full upfront.

          The point about making 12 on-time payments to qualify was simply to ensure that delinquent payers didn’t get to take advantage of this benefit. It wasn’t intended to be a reward for on-time payment.

        • 21stNow

          As I explained earlier, it isn’t a reward for on-time payments, but a penalty for late payments. If you don’t agree with the sentiment (I suppose some people don’t like saving $100), that’s fine, but don’t argue a point that isn’t being made.

        • kalel33

          I bet you bought that Chevy at a lower rate than the sticker price. If T-mobile would lower their costs on the phones then that’s an incentive. Every carrier does sales and T-mobile used to, so why not give an incentive to customers who pay regularly.

    • Sandy

      Why when you are getting a low rate to begin with? If you were running the company, you would NOT do this. Can you imagine how much in reconnect fees and late fees tmobile gets from late paying customers? Its ridiculous lol

      • kalel33

        They offered $200 off of phones before with the Classic plans and they didn’t go bankrupt. A flagship phone for free with the Classic plan is cheaper over the course of two years than the Simple Choice plans paying full retail.

  • Brian Bloom

    I’d like to see an actual sale on some devices. Unless I’m overlooking something, since they started the whole Uncarrier thing, all they’ve offered is the “0 down” promotion, which isn’t a sale at all, just a change in the timing of what you pay.

    Since Tmobile retail is about the only place to buy phones from them (if you want/need wifi calling, which I do), they have no need, or even ability, to compete with all the Walmarts, Targets, Cartoys, etc. All the other carriers give you some choice in where you buy the phone (and extend your contract), but we’ve lost that ability since most of the resellers won’t sell you a device without a contract. So there is zero competition for Tmobile’s device prices. About the only option is an international device unlocked from Amazon or the lesser known importers.

    Am I missing something? Is there a way to get a T-mobile-equiped domestic model S4 or Note 3 without a contract from anything other than a Tmobile branded store?

    • 21stNow

      Best Buy sells phones off contract (direct-ship only for T-Mobile). But they are ridiculously expensive.

    • KlausWillSeeYouNow

      Yes, at a retailer like Amazon, Walmart, or even eBay.

      • Brian Bloom

        Walmart will sell you a Tmobile phone without a contract? (and by “Tmobile phone”, I don’t just mean compatible bands, but that it includes the wi-fi calling app that you get when you buy a phone from Tmo itself)

        • KlausWillSeeYouNow

          Indeed! Yessir. A T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S 4, for example.

        • VG

          I see that Target is now selling what appears to be T-Mobile phones through their Brightspot service … do these phones also have T-Mobile WiFi calling? I see Target sell the Galaxy S3 LTE (the T999L model) for $400, which is $50 cheaper than T-Mobile’s current price.

        • SZL

          It will have Wi-Fi Calling for Brightspot.

        • KlausWillSeeYouNow

          I would assume so, although I can not personally verify this.

    • fsured

      I’ve not heard of a place that will not sell you a phone because you are not signing a contract. They simply charge you full retail price which is what T-Mobile is doing but with the option to pay it monthly. If you want a larger variety to choose from then you have to order online from Amazon, Newegg, or some other company like these.

      • Brian Bloom

        Costco is one kiosk I’ve been to that has flatout told me they won’t sell me a phone without a contract as well.

        • fsured

          hmm. Maybe it is the independent retailers who might be getting a commission from the phone sale and contract sale?

      • 21stNow

        I have seen this from Costco, Staples and Radio Shack, as well. I joined Costco to try to purchase a phone full-price, as the membership fee and the cost of the phone was cheaper than what T-Mobile charged for the phone. When they told me that they wouldn’t sell the phone to an Even More Plus customer, I got a refund on my Costco membership.

  • jon

    I personally don’t use an iphone or ipad and have no “wish” , but I’m betting you’ll see some announcement about expanded apple products, (i.e. ipad)

  • Hudi G.

    Would love to see them let contract customers move to the new plans without penalty, been waiting for my contracts to end and its getting annoying.

    • bob90210

      The key word in your statement is contract.

    • Adrayven

      Odd, they let me move, just was still under ‘contract’.. IE if I canceled service even though I was under the new plan while old contract was in play, I’d have to pay the ETF as well as for the EIP in full. I only had 9 months to go..

      Though, I jumped on it like, the first day. They may have let me slide on over?

      • Hudi G.

        thanks for that, i’ll see if i can convince a rep to let me do that

    • kalel33

      I wish they’d just drop the contracts for the people who never should have been put in contract in the first place, the Value customers who never bought a phone

  • princedannyb

    Did’t they say LTE advanced in 90% of top 25 markets by the end of this year? Maybe they will flip the switch on those. I hope they start patching up edge with hspa soon too. And why don’t they have wifi calling on iphones?

    • pbxtech

      That could be possibly one of them.

      I saw them blokes working at the tower yesterday and I’m in one of the 25 market you spoke off.

    • Adrayven

      WiFi calling requires integration with the phone app to work properly; otherwise they’d have to build a separate calling app that wouldn’t be integrated into the system. Not sure they want to do that.

      Would be nice if we could get Apple to allow carriers an SDK for wifi calling to the phone app. Then they’d do it in a heartbeat.

      I’m sure it’s not because T-mobile doesn’t want to.. One of the drawbacks of being on an iPhone. It’s more stable imo, but price is less customization. I’m happy with that. Done the Android round’a’bout.. HTC One, Galaxy SII x2, Nexus.. (liked Nexus best).. still came back to iPhone.. :/

      • ghulamsameer

        Considering Apple’s new FaceTime Audio feature, I highly doubt they would allow for T-Mobile wifi calling.

  • tasha

    Any word on the Iphone 5s will be back in stock? Maybe that will be mentioned tmrrw.

    Def need better coverage. I travel and TMobile coverage is awful. I’ve been with them for 10+ years and don’t want to change carriers.

    • ChristianMcC

      Especially with price being the best nationally.

  • Deceptivesmiles

    If it’s not about coverage or better rates for family plans. I don’t really care. I pay less w/ my old plan than w/ a new family plan and I drove through the whole state of W.VA and was in roaming the entire time w/ no service. Heck, I can’t even get a strong signal in church.

    Speeds are coo and everything but u need to build the network as a whole then work on speeds or do it simultaneously.

    • an0nim0

      “Heck, I can’t even get a strong signal in church.”

      That’s not uncommon; there’s too much wireless interference from the Holy Spirit.

      • ChristianMcC

        Well done!:-D

  • guest33

    no bloatware on smartphones

    • Paul

      If only…
      Rooted Android phones can eliminte that.

      • sahib102 .

        also windows phones comes with bloat BUT you can easily uninstall them. NO rooting needed :) yay

        • Paul

          I learned something new!
          Thanks.

        • Ray Dull

          the windows phones have essentially the same thing android 4+ has, you can remove the apps (android you disable them in manage apps, windows you “uninstall” them), they don’t run in the background or show up, but if you factory reset they come back.

        • JustinCrouch

          yaya? a useless phone with no bloatware is still a useless phone haha. i kidd..

  • tmo-user1

    Let us use EIP on older value plans.

    • thepanttherlady

      Not sure how old your plan is but I’m on a Value plan and can use EIP.

      • 21stNow

        I’m not sure about Value plans, but I was told that I couldn’t use EIP on the Even More Plus plan, not that I wanted to anyway. The sales rep was confused on what I wanted to do.

        • sushimane88

          Man even more plus that’s way way back.

        • 21stNow

          It seems like it because of all of the changes, but I’ve only been with T-Mobile for three years.

        • sushimane

          even more plus was like four or five years ago there was a even more aka classic plan and even more plus aka value plan then they just shut down the classic plan and only had value plan when i switch and was happy when i did.

        • 21stNow

          I promise you that it’s been only 3 years, 1 month. Even More Plus didn’t end until July 2011.

        • ChristianMcC

          Began only October 2009, shortly after I did on a fave five 1800min shared family plan. I got some friends to start up because of it.

        • kalel33

          You are incorrect. The Value plans replaced the Even More Plus plans on July 20th, 2011. It’s barely been over 2 years since they were grandfathered.

    • Magenta Man

      You can silly…..

  • JaswinderSinghJammu

    I think it will have a little bit of everything. LTE expansion, no deposit option for people who want that, better HSPA hand off etc etec

  • alex

    Free international calls.
    2.5gb included.
    5gb-$5.
    unlimited-$10
    clone sim-card $5

  • phase 3 won’t affect me .. i’m a current customer already on a phone EIP .. so it won’t affect me because i’m not paying off or getting a new phone anytime soon.

  • sushimane88

    If the last one is true hell naw im on the value plan from way back and I like it after I pay off my phone my month bill would only be 70 including tax and I dont need unlimited minutes. But im looking forward for the last phase of tmobile and see tmobile rack upore subscribe rs and expanding their reach.

  • Anonymous

    Improvements to their coverage is what I want to see. The plans are already good enough if ask me but their coverage especially on the road and indoors – atrocious. Would be a blessing if they fix that..

  • Aurizen

    I was hoping for the uncarrier to get new spectrum for better building penetration…. or more spectrum or upgrading Edge to 3g/4g

    • Yeah. Nothing like some good penetration.

      • gadget_hero

        I wonder if some of the regional carriers that bought into the cellular 700 band auction would sell it to T-Mobile. I know C Spire for one doesn’t use theirs, and I know MetroPCS had some.

      • ha!

        lol, penetration!!

    • truckeemike

      2g has had it’s day, it must go away!!!

      • Magenta Man

        Agreed…..Unfortunately that is only missing piece of the T-Mobile puzzle to success…..

        • gentleman559

          Exactly

    • ChitChatCat

      More lower band spectrum isn’t available yet, but should happen with the 600 mhz auction…

      • Aurizen

        we definitely need that 600 mhz, when will that auction happen? I hope tmobile really jumps on that

        • ChitChatCat

          It’s sometime in 2014, providing we still have a federal government then.

        • Aurizen

          lol good, I know John Legere wont disappoint with that.I just hope I’ll be covered with that when it happens.

  • VG

    I still remember CEO Legere saying that Phase 3 would be something that the other carriers could not replicate, so I am betting on some sort of free/cheap international roaming in those countries where parent Deutsche Telekom has a T-Mobile carrier in place. The “Don’t miss it for the world” tagline certainly helps this argument (i.e., that Phase 3 will have something to do with foreign markets).

    • Jarrod

      That could be why it was speculated that AT&T and Verizon were looking to buy other carriers in other countries, though Sprint could do the samething with SoftBank.

      • ChristianMcC

        Not unless they use VoLTE on the 41 band , which they do use, and update Sprint’s phones to support such.

    • guidomus_maximus

      Nothing say ‘free international roaming!’, like a Shakira endorsement does. (sic)

    • jay_max

      Free roaming across TMO territory worldwide would be cool. I’d settle for that in Canada. :-)

      • ChitChatCat

        But there isn’t any T-Mobile in Canada….

    • analyzethis

      AT&T and Verizon could easily replicate cheap international roaming based on existing roaming relationships and global fiber networks. Just like peering for tier 1 isp’s.

    • gentleman559

      Free International calling to and from Mexico. Thus swooping up the business from the hispanic community. Metro PCS does it and now they are owned by T-Mobile. Im really betting it has something to do with this at least in part.

      • truckeemike

        Ahh finally, an intelligent answer! Great pick. And certainly would take aim at a big group of consumers! Give the man a hand!!!!!!

        • gentleman559

          Bows. LOL. Thanks Mike

      • kalel33

        That would be T-mobile replicating a plan that at least one other carrier has, Verizon. They have a plan that’s $10 more a month, family or individual, that gives you the minutes from your plan to call for free to Mexico or Canada.

    • Abalika

      With Phase 3, for people with JUMP will get a bill credit when doing upgrades if their device is in a good working condition. This will wipe off their current Installment contract and when they upgrade to new contracts they may get bill credit depending on the remaining balance on their current contract and the device condition being returned.

  • I want to get out of my current classic plan, and convert with no fees.

    • Nathaniel Ily Jacob-Joshua Hud

      Call and complain. I did last week and the moved me on the new plans at no charge.

    • JustinCrouch

      if you have been with TMO for 5 years or more you CAN migrate with no fees. Source: Tmo employee

      • 16 years, and they won’t take the fees off when I call.

        • just me

          As long as the account you are trying to migrate has been opened for more than 5 years, it is within policy to waive the migration fee. Ask for a supervisor if the rep won’t do it.

        • I know, it’s been 16 years straight, but when I call they won’t do it.

        • Magenta Man

          Just me is correct, I work in a store and have personally had thousands of dollars in migration fees credited….

        • I just called again, and this time…FINALLY, they said they would take off all the fees. WOOHOO!!!

    • sushimane

      u should be able to move to simple choice from classic when ur contract is almost over like 2 month before ur contract is over. that’s what i did from a classic plan to a value plan with no fee because my contract was basically over in 2 months

      • Ambalika

        Anyways the Classic Plans will soon be history starting next year. They are planning to move every customer to Value Plans.

  • gadget_hero

    I really would love to see T-Mobile start a “Network Vision” as an extension of their current upgrades, it would be cool business wise if they could host other people’s spectrum. It would be great if they moved all their footprint to HSPA (PCS only) and/or LTE (AWS), and only maintain a small Edge network for strictly M2M business.

    • Nathaniel Ily Jacob-Joshua Hud

      I feel like they have something like that already just without any kind of name, not to mention Sprints Network vision has missed most of their deadlines and has fallen very short of expectations. Tmobile has been moving at a much faster pace.

      • gadget_hero

        Oh I agree, but most of Sprint’s delays were due to waiting for Fiber to be run to a tower. But Sprint unlike T-Mobile is upgrading every tower to carry x1 Advanced, LTE (800*/1900/2500). *800 has some border issues with Mexico and Canada. T-Mobile has entirely to many sites with ONLY Edge.

        • Nathaniel Ily Jacob-Joshua Hud

          Well I live in a metropolitan area so I’m safe, but I’d rather have edge in rural area with fantastic service and amazing 4G in larger cities than the crop Lte and poor service Sprint delivers in general. I guess we just have to wait and see what will happen!

  • Ernest

    How about free international calls as Metro is offering for $5 monthly?

  • J05H

    How about free everything!? Free calling, texting, data and free phones! Aaaaaand then T-Mobile will go out of business and we will all have to another carrier where we’ll have to pay an arm and a leg for service. Hows that F’n sound!

  • Stew

    – Increase in LTE coverage area
    – LTE advanced in major metros
    – Free roaming on T-Mobile in Europe and discounted roaming in Latin America and Canada
    – Reselling the used phones people have been trading in for JUMP at a discount on EIP
    – New prepaid plan for families that includes shared data for light data users, or unlimited LTE on one or more lines for heavier data users
    – Wi-Fi calling for all smartphones
    – End of migration fees, just put everyone on simple choice
    – Let everyone who signed up for JUMP in the first month be eligible to use their first upgrade in October instead of having to wait til January
    – Announce that T-Mobile has the nation’s fastest internet, that covers 200 million people with LTE, and costs a lot less than AT&T and Verizon
    ….did I leave anything out?

    • NHL Counterpoint

      You left out increasing data for us. The $50 indiv plan right now only has 500MB data before it is throttled. Hoping tomorrow that goes up to at least 2GB (been rumored here), or maybe, just maybe, no throttling :)

      • ABC

        The unlimited plan currently has up to 2 GB of throttling.

        • NHL Counterpoint

          Not true.

          http://www.t-mobile.com/cell-phone-plans/individual.html

          The cheapest postpaid plan, the $50 plan, only has up to 500MB until throttling. You have to pay $60 to get up to 2.5GB until throttling and $70 for no throttling. I am hoping tomorrow the $50 plan goes up to 2GB w/o throttling, but really want them to only have one plan with no throttling, but not getting my hopes up.

        • Garry

          What does that mean? Paying for unlimited but you are throttled at 2GB?

      • tmofan

        yea it would definitely be nice to see them compete with some of these pre paid options since they are also out of the phones

      • besweeet

        An extra $10 for 5x the amount of data shouldn’t be that hard to afford… Still a bargain compared to other major carriers.

        • NHL Counterpoint

          That besides the point. You want to be the uncarrier? Then have the “un-plan,” $50 unlimited everything, no throttling. 1st addtl line, $30, additional lines $10/each. That would be an industry shakeup.

        • besweeet

          They already have that, for $70 instead of $50. Their plans are already the simplest and most straightforward out there, consisting of just 3 total plans.

        • NHL Counterpoint

          Are you not reading what I am posting?? Do you know what is more simple than three plans? ONE PLAN.

        • NHL Counterpoint

          One plan is simpler than three plans. Simple math. If they are the “uncarrier,” they just might go that route.

        • NHL Counterpoint

          One plan is simpler than three.

        • besweeet

          That would leave consumers with fewer relevant choices and T-Mobile with less money. Dumb idea in most respects.

        • NHL Counterpoint

          It’s not dumb. All about gaining market share and volume. People would leave Sprint, VZW and AT&T in droves, especially Sprint who also likes to tout having a plan that has unlimited everything.

        • besweeet

          Many aren’t comfortable paying for the potential data that they might never use. Again, we’re only dealing with a $20 difference between their lowest plan and their highest. Hence, their current lineup of 3 plans is the most practical.

        • NHL Counterpoint

          I don’t think you are seriously considering what I am proposing. If someone doesn’t use data, why do they care if $50 is unlimited everything vs. 500MB then throttle? If they are the uncarrier and want the un-plan, they go with one plan. $50 unlimited everything and really shake up the industry.

        • besweeet

          This “un-plan” thing that you’ve come up with sounds quite dumb. But anyway, “$50 unlimited everything and really shake up the industry” _STILL_ makes no sense, given that their $70 unlimited everything plan already does that. They’re saving $20 for fewer choices while T-Mobile makes less money. Stupid.

        • thepanttherlady

          Agreed. One of my lines used by a 13 year old has no data and that’s the way I want it.

        • NHL Counterpoint

          TMO’s new simple choice plans do not have a “no data” option. So given that, what does it matter if you are paying $50 and getting 500MB then throttle or fully unlimited? If you aren’t using it anyways, it doesn’t matter.

        • thepanttherlady

          My Value Plan offers no data options and the line is free until January 2014. If I’m forced to take on data for that line after that, it will be canceled.

          ETA: It matters because my 13 year old does not need data, 500MB or unlimited. Period.

        • NHL Counterpoint

          I won’t be surprised if you are forced into a plan that has a data component. Unless, of course, TMO has an options for parents to turn off data as you’d like.

        • thepanttherlady

          If T-Mobile offered a free option for turning off data then this would be a non-issue but as it is now, they want to charge for parenting a line.

          As far as being “forced” into something I don’t want, no worries there. As previously stated, that line will be canceled if I don’t agree.

        • xmiro

          hm really?

          We had data on one of our Value1k lines blocked off completely, for free, after I removed the data option.

        • thepanttherlady

          If you have no data on your plan then of course it’s blocked. I also have a Value Plan and my 3rd line is 500 minutes, unlimited texting, no data.

          The OP is hoping everyone will be forced to have a plan with unlimited everything, including data. My point is that I will cancel my line if I’m forced to accept/pay for data on that line with no way to block/remove it. I don’t want it on there at all.

        • ChitChatCat

          Even with a 500 MB included line, there is the option to just not add the data feature. The price doesn’t change, but it prevents data access.

        • kalel33

          Verizon has an unlimited talk, text, and 2GB of data for their prepaid, so I don’t see how T-mobile selling it for the same thing is a “bargain”.

        • besweeet

          I’m talking in regards to postpaid plans.

        • kalel33

          It’s not apples and oranges here. T-mobile charges you per month with no contract or subsidy. Verizon prepaid charges you per month with no contract or subsidy. It’s a fair comparison. So what makes an account post paid vs prepaid. You can’t say because you pay after the month is up, because Verizon postpaid makes you pay for your next month’s plan 5 days before the new cycle begins.

        • besweeet

          In that case, T-Mobile’s $60 plan is the better deal.

        • kalel33

          Depends on what you deem as “better”. They’re both the same price but with T-mobile you get 1/2 GB more data. With Verizon you get their network coverage, which is larger than T-mobile’s coverage with their roaming coverage and there’s no 2G but at least 3G everywhere, with LTE covering 90% of their towers. My hometown of 3,500 in BFE Kansas has LTE and there’s LTE almost the entire trip of 6 hours. T-mobile has 2G and GPRS almost the entire way and it’s almost all roaming, which means I only get 50MB of data usage.

          T-mobile can’t win by being “barely” cheaper. They have to be much cheaper because they don’t have the network to compete.

        • besweeet

          Then it would come down to what the user would be better off with. Limited traveling? T-Mobile. Must have fast speeds everywhere possible? Verizon.

        • kalel33

          Really it comes down to how much data you need. Under 2GB? Verizon gives you the best bang for the buck. Need unlimited data? T-mobile, definitely. The problem with that is the last numbers of average use by a T-mobile smartphone customer was 1.3GB per month, which means the average user would do better by being with Verizon prepaid, getting the data they need and having the coverage as an added benefit.

          Now if you never left the city your in then you’d never notice the difference between them, then it’s a toss up and I’d probably lean towards T-mobile just because I prefer GSM over CDMA for ease of use in switching phones and you can get the Nexus phones, which you can’t on Verizon.

  • NHL Counterpoint

    Indiv Postpaid “un-plan” $50 unlimited talk, text and data (no throttling)

    Family postpaid “un-plan” start at $80 (again, unlimited everything, no throttling). ($80 is 2 lines, additional lines after 2 are $10/month each)

    No options, just plain and simple. All existing postpaid customers who are on postpaid no contract plans automatically migrated to the new “un-plan” for the un-carrier. (those paying $70 right now for unlimited everything would now be paying $50 for unlimited everything. Those paying $50 now for unlimited talk and text and data (but throttled after 500 MB) now are unlimited everything with no throttling)

    Talk about the scaring the f*** out of VZW, Sprint and AT&T.

    • Eric

      Cheaper plans = Everyone wins!

      Cheaper plans = More customers,
      More customers = More money,
      More money = More HSPA+/LTE cell towers,
      More HSPA+/LTE towers = More happy customers,
      More happy customers = Lower churn rate..

      And finally: Lower churn rate = A successful company!

      (Cheaper plans for what you receive.)

    • hanfeedback

      There are other posts which speculate the same thing you posted pretty much, Id say something along those lines.

    • just me

      More like “Talk about reducing margins to the point that T-Mobile can’t afford any more network upgrades at all.”

      • princedannyb

        That is why there is jump. The sales men will probly try to get the customer to sign up for jump. T mo will make lots of money from jump because they can then sell referbished phones. So the $50 + the $10 for jump brings it to $60. That is the current price for the 2.5 gb plan wich is how much the average user uses. While some customers wont use data at all, some will use 20+ gb. But when its all averaged out, it would be about 2.5gb. So t mo will still be making about the same amount of money.

        • just me

          You’re forgetting that the $10 fee is also for insurance, some of that money goes to assurant. There’s also the cost of refurbishing and repackaging the devices. I’m no expert, but I’m willing to bet that the revenue lost from reducing the bills of every single customer who has truly unlimited data by $20 a month outweighs the revenue gained from customers who use jump every 6 months.

        • princedannyb

          True, but there are still a lot of people who still have basic phones who wont use data. And though t mo might make slightly less per costomer, they will have alot more customers. If they do pull this off, I just hope that people dont abuse the unlimited data too much or it wont last long.

      • kalel33

        If Verizon and AT&T can afford selling an unlimited talk, text, and 1GB of data for their prepaid AND sustain their much much larger networks, then T-mobile can afford to make an unlimited talk, text, and web for $50. T-mobile doesn’t operate in low density populated areas and they make more money per tower.

        • just me

          I respectfully disagree. Verizon and AT&T make MUCH more than that on their postpaid customers, which is why they can afford to go that low on their prepaid plans. The only reason these cheap plans exist is so they can compete on the prepaid front to squeeze as much market share as possible. Prepaid customers are low-value from the companies’ point of view, in no small part due to the the cheaper plans(there are other reasons too of course). But it balances out- low profits from the prepaid customers, high profit from the postpaid customers. If T-Mobile were to make their postpaid plans that cheap, where would the balance come from? Probably by drastically cutting back on things that are normally considered part and parcel to being a major nationwide carrier. Network upgrades, customer service, marketing, etc. T-Mobile already is fighting an uphill battle against being the cheap(and thus low value) carrier. It might be possible, but I really don’t think it would be a smart business move.

        • kalel33

          Oh, I know that prepaid customers for Verizon are second tier. Verizon actually makes a majority of their money from business/government accounts. Consumer post paid and prepaid are secondary to their strategy. They could make as much as T-mobile does just from the business/government accounts and not have a single consumer dollar made. What I’m saying is that Verizon and AT&T build out towers in rural parts of Kansas, Montana, ND, SD, Texas, etc. where they get almost no revenue stream from those towers but because they have that network they have many more customers and pretty much have the government/business accounts cornered. T-mobile can’t compete with the big 2 on those accounts, except with city governments that stay within the confines of the metropolitan areas.

          Why can’t T-mobile even match their own sub-company in Metro PCS. They get unlimited talk, text, and web(unthrottled) for $60. They use the same towers as the T-mobile customers but they charge them less.

          I still have a few friends working at Verizon and I was told that early next year they will allow LTE phones on their prepaid accounts. That means for $60 a month you could get unlimited talk, text, and 2GB. The only reason anyone would choose T-mobile then would be unlimited data or being able to break up the price of the phone, but even the most recent numbers show that T-mobile customers average just a little over a GB of data use per month. Most don’t need unlimited data. If you paid $20 a month for your smartphone then you’re really only saving $20 a month over Verizon’s 2GB postpaid plan vs T-mobile’s SC 2.5GB plan. I wouldn’t call that much much more.

  • Scott

    Won’t scare competition, but get rid of domestic data roaming limits.

    • KingCobra

      Too costly. Imagine how much they would have to pay AT&T to allow unlimited data roaming.

      • Luis Medina

        It doesn’t have to be unlimited, they don’t even have to change the allotments per say. They should let people add trips where they got more than 50 mb of data.

      • kalel33

        They used to have it, until the AT&T merger attempt came about. Sprint allows 5x the amount of roaming with data, with Verizon and AT&T giving unlimited roaming.

    • Dustin Maki

      This is what I want! Going to Wisconsin a few weeks back was terrible!! While everyone I knew was on AT&T they were all on 3g and had data but NOT T-MOBILE! NO I was roaming!! T-Mobile really needs to fix that. Everyone around me checking facebook and instagram and crap while I was sitting around with my S4 twiddling my thumbs waiting to get to WiFi.

  • hanfeedback

    anyone know what time the event starts?

    • besweeet

      8:15PM Eastern.

  • Kevin

    What I’d like to see:

    -Free incoming calls and texts from any country both prepaid and postpaid
    -Free international minutes and texts
    -Free roaming to other T-Mobile countries
    -Upgrading EDGE towers
    -Lower prices on plans
    -Free SIM cards to help lure people over and include it with some credit to start with once they’re activated
    -Some kind of payback program for recruiting people over to T-Mobile
    -Phones being unlocked from the start whether buying them in full or making monthly payments. Even if one goes to another carrier, they still have to make payments on the phone until it’s paid off. Plus, some of us travel overseas and shouldn’t have to wait to unlock our phones.

    • John

      So basically see them go bankrupt?

      • besweeet

        This.

    • 21stNow

      T-Mobile already has a referral program.

      • tmofan

        yea, you get a 25 dollar gift card 60 days after someone signs up and pays their bill on time. oh you can only use that gift card in tmobile stores and cannot apply it towards your bill.

        i signed up 4 people and after hearing about the referral program i didnt even bother trying to get it for the next 3

        • 21stNow

          I used my $25 gift card to pay part of my bill in August.

        • ChitChatCat

          You can totally apply to it your bill.

        • tmofan

          how? i was directly told that i couldnt by the tmo employee and the manager

  • KingCobra

    I would like to see:

    – Upgrading coverage along all major interstates to at least HSPA+ (I just took a trip from Charlotte to Raleigh/Durham along I-85 and there are still some spots where I had Edge or even no data signal at all. Couldn’t even use iTunes Match at times).
    – Increasing the domestic data roaming allowance by 100MB

    Other than that I’m pretty satisfied. No Wi-Fi calling on the iPhone still but that’s because of Apple rather than T-Mobile.

    I think they’re going to start a program for selling refurbed phones in stores. I notice that the option is now given to select refurbished phones when we do upgrades for customers in store now.

    • D Nice

      Hello my fellow North Carolinian. I agree with you 100%. I find the data coverage between Greensboro and Raleigh to be better vs. Greensboro to Charlotte.

  • Mr. Coverage

    I would like to see:

    – Upgrading Coverage
    – Upgrading Coverage
    – Expanding Coverage
    – Increase Coverage
    – Free flat rate unlimited international calls from abroad or to there
    – And better coverage

    • noc007

      You’re missing “More Coverage” in that list.

  • Buttira

    You guys make me sick! All you can think of is more coverage, more data allocation, free this free that. What a buncha nerds you are!

    What I want is to spend the night dancing with Shakira, so I can teach her how to really Shakira her Buttira. Can I have that boss? Please, please?? I’ll sign a five year contract!!

    • SkylaC90

      5 years…. no no no sir i’ll sign a 10 YEAR CONTRACT!!!

  • Joey

    Just Expand your Coverage and Upgrade all EDGE area’s to HSPA+. :)

    • tmofan

      as much as that would make me a tmobile die hard. we all know it wont. how about some loyalty rewards?

  • Qual3n

    T-mobile should change to a car dealership model. All phones would be financed at 0% for 24 months with zero down. You would have your choice from new and used phones to select from. Jump and trade-ins would supply the used late model inventory. And make the price of new models negotiable in corporate stores.
    That’s truly Uncarrier in my opinion.

    • ABC

      This is coming up in Jan 2014.

    • xmiro

      except no car dealership gives all its cars away for $0 down, read their fine print for the catch

    • kalel33

      I’d rather see T-mobile have sales on their phones, instead of charging the same amount and just lowering the down payment.

  • shadowdawg

    unlimited teathering on unlimited plans, or make it a 20 doller add on.

    • princedannyb

      No! Too many people would abuse that and t mo would loose money. Some people would probly even use unlimited tethering as home internet.

      • ChristianMcC

        Already do…

      • kalel33

        You are exactly correct but just one correction, it’s spelled “lose” not “loose”.

  • princedannyb

    There is one thing we can all expect. Profanity!

  • tmofan

    i think its going to be a few things….

    1) since the tagline and the celebrity are both international, i think we will see some kind of plan
    2)i think loyalty rewards are on the way.
    3)some type of major discount for family plans
    4) paying your etf off if you come over from another carrier?

    gotta say not really sure, but am excited.

    • ChristianMcC

      I think 5 lines with unlimited everything at $220 is about as low as they can go, besides business customers, though it would be nice if family plans could have more than 5 lines, not just waste of money internet devices.

  • ChristianMcC

    One thing they need to do, at least, is make their edge towers usable, bring it to the highest edge speed, 386kbps, not “no data connection available”, if not making them 3g/4g.

    Also, make a WiFi calling app for all phones, not just branded.

    • jimmiekain

      Dude a wifi calling app would be so wonderful. Thats the only thing I hate about my Nexus 4.

      • ChristianMcC

        It truly isn’t the most amazing thing, because there is no transition to mobile, but it’s nice to have when you’re in a bad area or international and are stationary.

        • jimmiekain

          Hmm… I came to t-mo when I got a nexus 4. So, I have never had WiFi calling. If it doesnt hand-off to mobile then that sounds just like the Airrave I had when I was w/ sprint. Still its better than not having coverage.

      • John

        I hear Nexus people say this all the time? I’m a Realtor with a Nexus 4 and I make all my office calls by WiFi with the Gvoice GTalk app..has always worked flawless for me. Talkatone is great too. https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.moplus.gvphone

    • bloodymurderlive

      For Android, you can use SparePhone to make calls over WiFi or data.

  • sidekicker89

    so this announcement will be made at night and not the morning right?

    • Yes, but that’s all I can say.

      • PhoneGUY

        So have you sold-out to T-mobile so you can attend the event? No time or good leaks the night before?

        • Not at all, I’ve already posted leaks on it, we know it has something to do with international and that free calls to Mexico and/or North America are likely a part of it. I don’t know anything else, I’d never sell out to attend an event and I don’t even like Shakira for forget that as a reason.

        • Legere_Rulez

          If you’re right, and this big to-do is for free calls to Mexico, I’ll be VERY disappointed! I’m sure it will make some people who call internationally happy, but not me. I hope its something better than that!

        • Paul

          There will likely be more. Mr. CEO said they’d unveil something that no other carrier could replicate. International calling is something the others can replicate.

          International calling doesn’t apply to me either, but it would entice others to sign-up with Magenta. More customers = more cash coming in = build out. Or at least I like to think of it as that.

        • Marc Klein

          Unlimited Tethering perhaps?

        • besweeet

          That could possibly kill the network.

        • kalel33

          No way that’d happen. You’d have people who’d use their phones as their home internet and just crash the towers. Each tower has a finite amount of data that can be passed through it.

  • Wil

    Rational international data rates. As a current AT&T (for another month) user, the *only* thing I’m going to miss is the ability to turn on a small amount of international data on my US plan for emergencies when I go overseas. AT&T is exorbitant, $25 for 120 mb, but TMobile’s current deal is $15 PER MB. Clearly that’s not competitive, let alone honest, fair, reasonable, useful, or customer-friendly. Here’s to Uncarrier phase 3 fixing that weakness.

    • ChristianMcC

      Holy poop! That’s ridiculous, especially when I paid $6 for a month of internet in Europe this summer. I used over 2GBs, or over $30,000 according to their fees.

      • Wil

        Exactly my problem! Local SIM always offers better prices, but sometimes I just need to use my US number briefly, so would like a reasonable charge.

    • BRUISER1369

      T-Mobile offers a flat rate international plan starting at $25.00 for 150MB of 4G data that throttles once the threshold has been reached. Packages are available in 400MB 1GB and 2GB.

      • Wil

        Really? That would be great, however I can’t find that nor can I get that answer out of a support rep. Do you have a link?

  • The Man

    I think just adding 500 more megabytes of high speed data to each plan would make lots more people happy. And also adding 500 more megabytes to mobile hotspot and for the unlimited customers 1 more gb of mobile hotspot. Also start expanding coverage outside of big cities. Not anything dumb and crazy like upgrading all edge towers to LTE because thats simply not gonna happen. But at least upgrading 50% of EDGE towers to at least 3G. That would be huge AND REALISTIC.

    • besweeet

      They changed the hotspot allowance for the unlimited data users from 500MB to 2.5GB. Also, 500MB to 2.5GB of normal high-speed data for an extra $10 isn’t exactly a wallet buster…

  • Dianalagurl33

    i would like to see cheaper roaming rates for Mexico i go to mexico alot and i have no time to buy a mexican phone besides i tried using a cheap prepaid Mexican phone last time f××k its horrible i put 400 pesos made 1 effin phone call back to the US call lasted less than 30 seconds btw this was with TELCEL amigo kit called lesss than 30 seconds just called my mom and told her i was ok all 400 pesos which is about 40 bucks was gone horrible i learned the hard way Mexican cell networks rob u alot same with T-Mobile roaming they charge 1.49 the minute i got my bill 3,000 bucks just for using it Mexico since the mexican prepaid route dnt work..

    • ruffst

      what

  • PrepaidNexus

    They should open the 5GBdata/100talk plan to all phones and hotspots, for both prepaid and postpaid. I’m sure the would gain a slew of prepaid hotspot users.

    • kalel33

      Just a google search for your phone and mobile hotspot can get you by the restrictions they put on tethering.

    • JoshGroff

      It’s already available on all phones, you just need to buy a SIM and get a re-up card through Wal-Mart. I did it on my N4 when I was testing the plan earlier this year. Ended up just going with full unlimited for 70 because why not? ;)

      • kalel33

        You missed the last part of the first sentence where he wanted it for both prepaid and postpaid.

        • JoshGroff

          I didn’t miss it, just casually ignored it. ;)

  • gadget_hero

    do we have a live-stream link for the event yet?

    • hanfeedback

      also looking for this, what time does it start?

      • Victor Castro

        8:15 pm eastern time or 5:15 pm pacific time

  • emmanuel

    What time!!!

    • xavier

      12 pst time

      • thepanttherlady

        Are you sure? T-Mobile’s FB page shows 20:15:00 EDT which would be 5:15 pst.

  • Tarik Husejinovic

    500 mb on 4G LTE then you get throttled to “4G” HSPA+ instead of 2G would make me very happy. ;-)

    • Luis Medina

      It doesn’t have to be 4g, 3G at least would be fine.

      • kev2684

        that’s what he meant. HSPA+ (buffed 3G) is AT&T and T-Mobile’s “4G”

        • Luis Medina

          And what I meant is not what he or you meant. I meant 3G as 1.5 Mbps download

        • kev2684

          i had no idea they still run that. afaik they only have edge, HSPA+ (21 and/or 42) and LTE.

        • Luis Medina

          He was speaking about throttling when you finish your allotment. His example was the 500 Mb limit and after that it’s edge speeds

        • fsured

          3mb on HSPA+ is considered good signal quality/speed. Those 21 and 42 figures are the theoretical speeds the network could reach if conditions were perfect for it. It’s great marketing to say how fast the network can run. The average user experience is totally different.

    • besweeet

      I’d be happy with .5Mbps down/up, or maybe even EDGE speeds with HSPA+-like pings and reaction times.

    • NHL Counterpoint

      Might as well just go one plan, $50, unlimited everything, no throttling. That would shakeup the industry.

  • vrm

    Regarding improved coverage, at & t is selling its towers –

    http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-10-08/at-t-said-to-be-close-to-tower-sale-to-crown-castle.html

    tmobile sold its towers to the same company – crown castle last year and is leasing from them. I believe that once at&t’s sale happens, tmobile can lease those towers as well and instantly make their coverage as good as at & t !

    Correct me if I am wrong.

    • coolbreeze

      Hopefully that is the case, will be more level playing field.

    • fsured

      Isn’t their problem the quality of the spectrum and not so much towers? Leasing more could add access points to weaker areas but they would still have to deal with the same 1700 frequency offering less range and building penetration. If they had the extra spectrum to already expand outward from the city centers but needed towers wouldn’t they have done so already?

      • xmiro

        t-mobile has nationwide spectrum, it’s not just for big cities but for whole areas. They just haven’t upgraded 2G equipment in many places, or added coverage to some areas. The problem is all of T-mobile’s spectrum is 1900Mhz and they need to be on more towers in rural-ish areas to get a signal to people

  • bloodymurderlive

    They have everyone’s attention. But if they don’t now address their network, they will lose everyone’s attention, all over again.

  • TMoFan

    Not sure I believe the rumors in the other post about classic being forced to simple choice but I wouldn’t mind seeing this if we get a reduced SC plan.

    Things I’d like to see: tablets for SC, loyalty program and ETF reimbursement to switch.

    I wonder what time it starts? And if there will be a live stream???

    • besweeet

      The announcement is for 8:15PM Eastern. Not aware of a livestream link yet, but it’ll probably show up eventually.

    • CrzyP

      I would like that too. I don’t make many calls so unlimited minutes is kind of a waste for me.

      • carlos arroyo

        And that is the point of unlimited minutes, the new model is all about data, minutes and sms, does not matter anymore, as long as you have a good amount of data to use, 5 years ago, minutes matter, but no more. carriers really cant make money of minutes anymore.

    • tasha

      It’s time for me to upgrade. I’m holding out hoping that they offer something to change plans.

  • jimmiekain

    Call me crazy but I’d like to see ABSOLUTELY NO CARRIER BLOATWARE. I’d be nice if they made all of the T-Mo apps (including wifi calling) downloadable from the playstore or the T-Mo website. This may help speed up initial releases and OTA updates.

    • Tone

      Get a nexus problem solved

      • jimmiekain

        I have a nexus 4 but the lack of wifi calling is an issue. I don’t like any of the other wifi calling / voip solutions. Also, I think no bloat on all phones would be awesome. LG G2 is awesome but with no bloat it would be unstoppable. Besides apple users don’t have to deal with it. Why should Android users?

    • fsured

      Or at least offer the option to delete the program from the phone. Have the phone come out of the box with the software in case a customer actually uses the mobile tv or whatever.

      • psreddy1234

        All Windows Phones have the option to delete the carrier apps … and you get wifi calling .. Nexus is also good option but no wifi calling

  • Encino Stan

    Does Europe still get incoming calls for free?
    VoiceStream used to have the first incoming minute free.

    • CrzyP

      I used to live in the UK until September 2010 and incoming calls were free then.

    • xmiro

      yes they do get incoming calls free

      • Encino Stan

        International data is great, IF you travel internationally. I go international once every few years, and when I go, I just get SIM from what country I am in.
        If T-Mobile is trying to follow the European model of doing things (non-subsidied phone, no contract, etc.), then I would have liked to see free incoming calls. (Although, I guess if you had unlimited minutes it would not matter.)

  • gali5446

    I just want 4G in Hermiston, Oregon

    • Scubasteve

      Just Move to Tri-Cities. =)

  • Frettfreak

    at least some part of this announcement WILL be LTE. I am in a town that has pretty bad data coverage normally but i went into the central part (i live in the sticks) and got LTE! I have noticed it lighting up in more spots all over all week.

  • Goliath King

    So.. Around what time are we slated to hear this information?

    • Victor Castro

      5:15 pacific time 8:15 eastern standerd time

  • Galan

    Has anyone found out where one can view the event???

  • Ctru

    I recently purchased an S4 this past weekend and t-mobile waived their $200.00 migration fee if i switched my classic plan to the simple choice plan which included truly unlimited data for the same price as i was paying for 5gb in the classic plan.

  • fsured

    Wonder if AT&T is a bit spooked. Seen two press releases about their network improvement just before T-Mobile does their release. One yesterday was about their phones to start shipping with the ability for voice over LTE with their network capable of handling it next year. It is to offer HD quality (yet T-Mobile already has HD voice). That same article mentioned next year they will have LTE-Advanced. Now Cnet has another article about LTE expanding to 13 new cities, mentioning how many people they cover, etc.

    Trying to sound relevant? Could be pure chance but marketing and releasing info at the right times can help soften a potential blow. We know T-Mobile views AT&T as sitting with giant target sign.

    • xmiro

      not pure chance, it is pretty typical PR though I’m more surprised they didn’t do it after T-Mobile was done.