Las Vegas Network Refarm Now 75% Live, Nationwide LTE Network Coming By End Of 2013

T-Mobile CTO Neville Ray, speaking at GigaOM’s Mobilize conference this afternoon has confirmed that the Las Vegas market is now at least 75% live as T-Mobile’s first refarmed spectrum on the 1900 band. T-Mobile continues to refarm its 1900 MHz spectrum for use on the HSPA+ band with other major cities such as Seattle, New York City, and Washington, D.C. expected to live soon as well.

As for LTE, Ray says T-Mobile will deploy 10 x 10 MHz channels across 90% of the top 25 US markets when it launches LTE next year. Ray went on to say that T-Mobile will have a nationwide LTE footprint by the end of 2013, but would not specify any targets for total expected coverage.

Ray said that T-Mobile’s LTE “…Will be one of the fastest LTE offerings that will be in the marketplace.”

I know a lot of you will fill the comments below with questions for your own geographic area, so I’ll try and emphasize that all Ray would say today is that a “material” part of T-Mobile’s network will be refarmed and ready for the iPhone by years end. He wouldn’t give any specific beyond that. Personally, it’s understandable that T-Mobile doesn’t want to give any specific deadlines they may not be able to make, as not all the network refarming is up to them. T-Mobile has said end of year since they first announced the refarm, so we’ll continue to focus on that timeframe and hope our own cities go live before then.

GigaOM@kfitchard, @yeswap, Fierce Wireless

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  • michaelnotmike

    what would be considered the top 25 markets according to T-Mobile?

    • Bajamin

      Not sure but think along the lines of LA, Dallas, Houston, NY, Chicago, Seattle, Orlando etc.

      • TMoLTE

        YES! Orlando! Miami usually gets everything!

        • terryjohnson16

          When I went to Orlando in June, the coverage there is nothing to write home about. Spotty coverage. I couldn’t wait to get back to NY, with the wall to wall coverage and HSPA+ speeds.

      • and Detroit Metro area(thank god)!

    • Waiting for Tmo

      I would guess that’s by population.

    • JB

      I’m assuming it depends heavily on subscriber base vs size of city… For instance, I live in KC. We are the 34th largest city in US (As of 2011) but we have the 20th largest T-Mobile subscriber base. Here’s a link for reference:

      http://www.tmonews.com/2012/06/t-mobile-breaks-up-galaxy-s-iii-launch/

      • Clifford Martin

        If that list is correct, then Atlanta is the 19th largest market and Las Vegas isn’t on the list. Yet Las Vegas is one of the first to get the refarm. So that means there is now real way to predict when we would get a refarm. I will say that they refarmed just 1 tower in my Atlanta suburb and now I get 3G on it for my iPhone 4s. A speed test today got me 5.53Mbps download and only 0.38Mbps upload. Download is OK but the upload is still slow imho.

        • JB

          Of course I was just being purely speculative based on a list they released… Again being speculative, I would assume it’s easier and more efficient to have a test run or wide rollout in one of your smaller markets to make sure everything goes right before starting on your larger markets.

          Just a thought… cause like everyone else I’m grabbing for straws.

  • moises1204

    is Boston mass on tmobile list for a soon to come?

    • conservative_motorcyclist

      Actually it is live in Waltham, Malden, and Melrose! (source http://airportal.de/ ) When I was up by UMass Lowell, I got 3G on my iPhone for a bout 30 seconds before it switched off to EDGE. I am hoping that means the market will light up really soon! They are doing something on the North Shore area because I noticed my EDGE signals get a little wonky in a couple of places that they didn’t before.

    • Chris Lombardo

      I spoke with a rep on the phone last week that said its active but I can’t test it with my G2 or my wife’s MyTouch 4G. Confirmation would be nice

    • Elad

      There are 3 dots in http://www.airportal.de in the Boston area and I have personally seen H on SE C510 in several other places like Quincy Center and the souther part of Morrissey Blvd in Dorchester.

    • voltaire evardone

      Was in Springfield Mass for the big E yesterday and my wife was bragging 3g icon on her iPhone 4s on T-Mobile.

  • Jason

    so basically only one city in the country can get 3G speeds on a iphone via tmobile?

  • James Shaggy

    I left tmobile for sprint a year ago and i miss the fast speed. Sprint still hasnt launched LTE in my area. I wanna give sprint a fair chance to launch LTE but tmobiles HSPA+ is making it hard.

    • Bajamin

      Sprint is more expensive, drops more calls, doesn’t have a 4g network worth mentioning, why would you have gone with them? And before you say you live in an area with no T-mobile coverage, why would you switch back?

      • James Shaggy

        Sprint was cheaper with unlimited data, i got tired of being throttled but tmobile and there was no wifi at the places i went to. Sprint Wimax was ok but then it started to slow down so i just bought an Evo 4GLTE but like i said waiting for LTE is a pain.

        • mingkee

          The situation changed.
          T-Mobile has 100% unlimited (no sharing) internet and it’s truly save my day.

        • bleeew

          I bettmobile will have a bigger 4g network than sprint or areas that will get atleast 10mbps

  • Marcus Rose

    Any word on Denver, CO

    • GwapoAko

      I believe non yet. Also waiting here in the Springs,

      • ac21365

        I was in Denver a few weeks ago with my old HTC Fuze. I’m keeping a T-Mobile prepaid account running to keep tabs of the refarm. So far, I got nothing in Denver and am still on EDGE here in the ‘Springs. I’ll report on Airportal.de as soon as I see any signs of HSPA action on 1900mHz.

        • GwapoAko

          Yipeee got 3G on my iPhone 4$ last night here in the Springs… Citadel Area!!!

        • Kris

          Confirmed! East parking lot of Citadel Mall had near perfect signal. I added it to airportal.de already. Go to howardforums and look up the t-mobile refarm thread, I made a post there, you’ll see it.. post #1604.

    • GwapoAko

      You should have the 3G in Denver by now. Check the Airportal.de

  • Michael Lococo

    So no news on LTE for the folks down in Joe Bobs Holler? :-)

  • Kyle

    What about Idaho? I havent seen jack-squat and there is a pretty good T-Mobile presence here!

    • Tyler

      I am in Boise and I am hoping for some news about Idaho too!

      • Hesster

        Same here. I had 3G on my Droid 3 in a few spots when I went to visit my parents near Seattle last week, but still running on EDGE here at home…

  • gtdeaner

    T-Mobile is just trying to find any niche to make money before they go under.

    • ogopogo

      If you are circling and waiting for them to die, I guess that makes you a vulture?…..no, wait…..that makes you a moron.

      • Tbyrne

        A Troller perhaps?

  • This is so funny lol, I’m not even gonna do it again. I’m just gonna say they look so silly bringing up the iPhone.

  • RickF

    When you say Iphone ready by years-end, are we talking 2012 or 2013? I’m currently near the end of my 2 year AT&T contract and can’t wait to kick them to the curb — Tmobile is looking better and better than the rest.. I’m aiming for a quad phone setup (4 phones) with limited data (don’t need unlimited) so I’m looking at their pre-paid no-contract plans.. Should be able to save $$ over the other carriers..

    • GwapoAko

      I believe it is 2012. 2013 is for LTE.

    • Tim Moore

      My guess is this year if he specifically mentioned 2013 for LTE but said end of the year for the refarm. People I’m sure will be happy with this.

      I wonder if t-mobile will get a deal with iPhone early in 2013 the way Verizon in 2011.

  • ninag

    whens chicago?? I bet never.

  • Does anyone know what T-Mobile “LTE” frequencies would be? Would say the new iPhone 5 which has LTE, work on the T-Mobile LTE network? Or is this another one of the ATT and T-Mobile “3G/4G” MHz differences? Thank you guys in advance!!

    • GwapoAko

      IT will be same as AT&T. So if you want to buy unlocked iPhone buy the AT&T unlocked or off contract from AT&T.

      • Much appreciated for your response!!

      • Fabian Cortez

        That’s if you want LTE.

        All of the iPhone 5s (*cringe*) will work on T-Mobile’s PCS HSPA+ network at 42 Mbps. You just have to get them unlocked.

        • GwapoAko

          Yup . I think the off-contract iPhone 5 from AT&T is unlocked too.

    • terryjohnson16

      T-Mobile’s LTE network will utilize the AWS band. The AT&T-branded iPhone 5 will work on T-Mobile’s upcoming LTE network. Verizon/Sprint’s iPhone 5 will not work on T-Mobile’s upcoming LTE network.

      Once an area has been PCS HSPA refarmed, the iphone will work on it.

      AWS = Band 4
      PCS = Band 2

  • kitpogi

    David, when will be LA’s turn for refarming?

    • Like I said in the post, we don’t know exact timeframes.

      • kitpogi

        Thank you sir!… I actually was able to hit HSPA speeds in Alhambra Ca. …just that area though, along Valley Blvd. I have an HTC one X international unlocked…

  • Jake

    How will I know if my areas ready without jumping ship too soon?

  • rgilmore

    Hey it works. I was able get 2.26Mbps down and .05Mpbs up. Might not put that old 3g on ebay after all.

  • tinky_30

    OMG people you don’t realize how awesome this is! All the phone that are/were used on AT&T network will be able to be used on T-mobile network! Motorola atrix phones etc…..

  • Christopher_McG

    Las Vegas PCS 3G spread like wildfire when it started lighting up.

  • alfonzso

    It would be EXTREMELY helpful if T-Mobile would give us a coverage map of this refarming as well as a timeline. I want to know when HONOLULU/HAWAII.

    • Mirad77

      Seriously dude?

      • alfonzso

        Yeah, seriously braddah!

      • James Shaggy

        yes seriously. try it out!

    • James Shaggy

      There is a website that people can use to map where they have seen tmobile 1900 HSPA+ coverage. airportal.de

      • alfonzso

        Awesome! Thank you!

    • MacRat
    • shdw03

      from a reputable source, november!!!!! for Honolulu

      • alfonzso

        I really hope that source is as reputable as you claim. :-) That would be lovely!

  • shaolinkaz

    I just switched over to T-Mobile from AT&T about 2 days ago and brought along with me an unlocked iPhone 4s. I can’t wait till NYC gets lit up in 1900MHz HSPA+ There have been reports of “3g” sightings throughout parts of Brooklyn & Queens. I’m on Staten Island, and so far my iPhone is only showing a nice, phat “E” so hopefully they’ll have it rolled out before the end of the year. I’m being very patient with them….lets hope they can get this done.

    • napster

      you’ve been on T-Mobile for 2 days and you call that “being very patient”?

      • ghulamsameer

        Yeah, patience is something along 3+ years of waiting. Oh wait, that’s me!

        • TmoPimp

          +1 since 2009

        • Dinux

          I’ve got you all beat…. Been a TMo customer since 2003… Haha! I’ve been waiting 9+ years… Oh wait, that doesn’t count… iPhone 3 unlocked here. Had it 6 months. Before, had a Motorola Android device with MotoBlur. NIGHTMARE!

        • Riopato

          it’s been 15 long years for me!

      • shaolinkaz

        considering that I never really had any issues with AT&T, was already “grandfathered” on an Unlimited Data plan and was off-contract, switching to T-Mobile is a big deal for me & scrafice. I have to say I was intrigued by what they were offering and I’m definitely saving at least $60 a month having 2 lines with Unlimited Talk-Text & data. The only downside to it (for now) is having traded off my faux 4G (3.5G) data speed to now 2G “EDGE”. I’m not a heavy bandwidth consumer but it is a pain in the butt browsing with that data lag. I guess we’ll see what happens before the end of the year. Maybe when T-Mobile starts lighting up LTE, I’ll buy an iPhone 5 unlocked

  • John

    At this point, I’d be happy with something better than 2g out here in the sticks where I live.

  • Laz

    Anyone in Phoenix seeing 3G testing on their iPhones? I’m waiting on AT&T without a contract ready to jump off once the 1900 band has 3G flipped on.

  • Vlad Andreyev

    Until fairly recently, devices sold by T-Mobile didn’t support UMTS in the 1900MHz band. Samsung Galaxy S2, for example, isn’t compatible. So, it’s not just a matter of getting people off 2G; they will have to run both UMTS and LTE in the 1700MHz band concurrently, which will reduce the amount of spectrum available to each.

    • Mirad77

      That is not very accurate and you should be very sure of yourself before posting info like that. If a frequency is not listed doesn’t mean it doesn’t exist.

    • philyew

      I have the box in front of me and it clearly says UMTS Band II (1900) is supported.

      The spec list on the TM website only refers to bands that were relevant at the time the device launched, so even the GSIII doesn’t refer to UMTS 1900 on its page…BUT I have the box for that as well and it also says UMTS Band II (1900) is supported.

      • Vlad Andreyev

        That’s good to know. But the specs for most of the 3G phones sold by T-Mobile list only UMTS bands I and IV. I’m led to believe there have to be some that don’t support band II. Unfortunately, the user manuals for many phones don’t even list the frequencies supported, like it’s totally not important.

        • philyew

          It’s possible there may be issues with some HTC devices, as I’ve read complaints about that elsewhere, but they are now addressing that – in the upcoming 8X, for example.

          As far as I can see, the Samsung range all the way back to the Vibrant looks good to go. I have a box for the Vibrant as well that lists UMTS Band II as covered.

          As I said, the listings on the TM website only address those bands that were relevant at the time the phone was launched. It is certainly not the place to get definitive information. Elsewhere, there are probably as many sites that list the band being included as there are missing it out, so the only real source will be the manufacturer themselves.

        • philyew

          Before I fuel any unnecessary concern, I should add that the HTC One S also supports UMTS Band II. as does the HTC Sensation 4G and the Amaze 4G. You have to drill down into the Specs & Features documents in the support documentation, rather than just looking at the Sales data sheets.

  • Joeblo

    I heard that Miami / Fort Lauderdale refarm will go live by mid-October. Can’t wait!!

    • guest5509696

      who did you hear that from? i hope it’s true, i’m in Ft Laud and just signed 2yr Unlimited 3G/4G on the GS3!! (hello unlocked iP5!)

    • Jason

      from who?

    • T user

      For real?

    • Aurizen

      where did you hear that? is there a list somewhere? like an estimate?

  • Sharklover

    Cool. I’m very happy with speeds I’m getting on my s3. I average around 7 or 8 mbps. Fastest was 22 one time. Not sure why any faster is necessary. I watch tv perfectly.

  • bravomatador

    I have an unlocked iPhone 4 on T-mobile. When the refarm is complete, I will get 3G? Or is it just for the 4S and 5?

    • â“œ@®!â“ž G@®CI@ â„¢

      You will get 3G it works on any iphone or unlocked phone that supports the 1900 band

      • bravomatador

        Sweet deal! thanks. Gotta wait a while in Kansas City I assume.

    • GwapoAko

      You will also get 3G!

      • bob90210

        You get 3G! And you get 3G! Everyone gets 3G (who has an iPhone 3G or later and is in a top 25 market by the end of the year)!

  • mreveryphone

    It’s live here in Kansas City Missouri I’ve been getting the 4g icon on my unlocked att galaxy s3 for about 2 weeks now

    • JonShipman

      Me too but no data while on 3g. It comes and goes.

      • mreveryphone

        I get data too and it’s pretty fast. Saw some guys working on a cell tower in overland Park ks and now there’s a small pocket over there With 4g

        • JonShipman

          What apn are you using?

  • Aurizen

    I cant wait till Philadelphia area sees the refarm soon

  • Jane

    Any clue if Dallas is going to get a reframed network, if so when??

  • Poopschute

    I know San Diego will start in mid to late October.

    • JT

      Liar! Are you a clairvoyant?

    • Soun Maokhamphiou

      That’s Hog wash… Although i really want to see it. If I believe you it will be an iSad day for me if October passes with no HSPA+ on my iPhone

      • JT

        Ditch the iphone. they’re for fashionistas! Gotta keep it hood. Morse ’99!

  • D33UU

    I live in a semi-remote area of northern CA between Yuba City and Chico and up until 2 weeks ago was only getting GPRS on my unlocked IPhone, now I am getting full bars of edge all around here. My wife also noticed on her Galaxy S Blaze 4g she is getting Edge everywhere around here now too. Seems silly to be happy about Edge but when you live with near no data for 3 years it is pretty cool, hope this is not the extent of the network upgrade in this area, I would kill for 3g at this point.. lol. All other network providers have 3G or better in our area and no congestion due to sparse population. I am seriously considering going to Straightalk at the end of the year when my contract is up because they use ATT and it is really good around here, Iike TMO.. but need to have better than EDGE for the money we pay.

    • Mirad77

      Prop to you for hanging that long though there are benefits and disadvantages lining in the urban areas or country. You’ve come this long you might as well hang in there. Peace.

    • eanfoso

      Dude may as well hang and sign up for a value plan, you won’t have a migration fee and your bill will be half of whatever you’d pay with anyone else, look up value plans, ie, unlimited texting is five bucks, unlimited web with 2gigs of data is 10 bucks so yeah man you’re looking at a lot of savings bro

    • LE119

      That sucks! I feel ya…but props to you for hanging in there! I’m in Gridley using a gevey sim unlocked iPhone 4 and I always get GPRS when I get outside town, but mostly on EDGE! Been with T-Mo for 5 years now since I got the 1st gen iPhone…so here’s hoping they refarm the area before my contract is over next year or I’m afraid I’m gonna have to make the switch!

      • D33UU

        Thats too Funny, I actually live in G-town also. Get a awesome Edge signal in Gridley, I work in Oroville and I never used to get anything more than GPRS but recently I get almost a full Edge Signal now at work and even around downtown Oroville. I can get Pandora to stream now finally at work!! Never get any signal in Live Oak however.. deadzone. They just need to push the 3g/4g up the road from Yuba City to us and fast. Got 4 months left on my contract.

        • LE119

          WHAAAATT??? LOL ! that’s crazy!!! Yeah, it does feel pretty remote up here, but hopefully the signal upgrades are a sign of more great things to come! Also, do you get 3G in YC?

        • D33UU

          NO 3G IN Yuba or Chico even they do have 3g/4G service there. Its crazy living in G-town with the big Cell/TV tower structure in the middle of our town but yet.. old School edge only.. lol

  • joel_axel

    san antonio is a big city… will it get LTE?

  • mike

    T-Mobile has 37,000 cell sites according to a May press release. Out of that T-Mobile owns 7,000. So , one could guess that a lot of the work is out of their hands directly.

  • Raul Vasquez

    My wife’s factory unliked iPhone 4s was showing 3G on tmobile in some pockets of Sacramento, CA. Download speeds were in 6.5 mb an upload 4.5 mb.

  • Jefferson Josue Morales

    I love my 4G in LA..simply amazing..for some reason it works better than the iPhone 4s on ATT..thank u Amaze 4G

    • James

      That’s because the iphone 4s isn’t a 4G phone…

      • mreveryphone

        The amaze technically isn’t either, it’s 3.5g that’s why he made the comparison

      • mingkee

        HTC Amaze sustains up to 42Mbps while iPhone 4S only sustains 14.4Mbps(?).
        I get 7-9Mbps with S3 while I only get 6-8Mbps with Galaxy Nexus.

      • Magenta Man

        iPhone users = hypnotized zombies

    • OneRcknMan

      Is that Louisiana or Los Angeles?

  • Guest

    Would an at&t unlocked one x works on tmobile hspa+ with the new 1900 band

    • 21stNow

      Yes.

  • mloudt

    major market update for Houston,Texas. and i know a few people from Houston be on here as we talked on here a few weeks ago about the same topic. i was at work today and this guy i noticed had an iphone now he was a regular guy and by that i mean the average cell user that doesn’t be on these types of sites you know tech sites; where he doesn’t know much. i assumed he had another carrier because t-mobile doesn’t have the iphone but he said he had t-mobile. so i think it was the 4 or 4s, so i quickly asked him has he ever seen 3g on his iphone and he responded yes. i looked at his phone and it was on e for edge and explained to him that t-mobile is suppose to refarm where the iphone will always get 3g in which he was unaware of because like i said he doesn’t get on these sites he just knows what regular t-mobile customers know about the future of the company which is not much lol. also, he stated he was on the no contract $50 plan which throttles speeds after 100mb 4g and he said at first he got 3g but after he used it up it went slower. so i can’t say how often he got 3g but i can say he got 3g and this is southeast houston/alvin/pearland/pasadena southloop 45south area.
    also david didn’t somebody confront you a few weeks ago for not citing your sources? they stated they gave you the info because tmonews would get more views than their site, then all they wanted from you is to cite them and you didn’t. they then told you they would never give you information again, which makes you not very professional. well david the reason i’m bringing this up is because most people mite not understand why you included these twitter accounts well i know why and i’m going to explain. people do you see the second twitter account yeswap well he is a blog writer that has his own site and he broke a story about the iphone refarm also which in my opioion was better written than david’s. my point is david is not giving yeswap credit formally by mentioning him in the article so instead he just showed an image of his twitter account. yeswap’s website is called prepaidphonenews.com and here is the link to his iphone refarm t-mobile article http://www.prepaidphonenews.com/2012/09/t-mobile-announces-iphone-friendly-1900.html. yeswap mainly blogs about prepaid wireless but still my point is david doesn’t credit smaller sources or in most cases even bigger one’s, sometimes he does but it’s only his friends in the blog world. david if you want to be known as credible you need to credit everybody!

  • mloudt

    major market update for Houston,Texas. and i know a few people from Houston be on here as we talked on here a few weeks ago about the same topic. i was at work today and this guy i noticed had an iphone now he was a regular guy and by that i mean the average cell user that doesn’t be on these types of sites you know tech sites; where he doesn’t know much. i assumed he had another carrier because t-mobile doesn’t have the iphone but he said he had t-mobile. so i think it was the 4 or 4s, so i quickly asked him has he ever seen 3g on his iphone and he responded yes. i looked at his phone and it was on e for edge and explained to him that t-mobile is suppose to refarm where the iphone will always get 3g in which he was unaware of because like i said he doesn’t get on these sites he just knows what regular t-mobile customers know about the future of the company which is not much lol. also, he stated he was on the no contract $50 plan which throttles speeds after 100mb 4g and he said at first he got 3g but after he used it up it went slower. so i can’t say how often he got 3g but i can say he got 3g and this is southeast houston/alvin/pearland/pasadena southloop 45south area.
    also david didn’t somebody confront you a few weeks ago for not citing your sources? they stated they gave you the info because tmonews would get more views than their site, then all they wanted from you is to cite them and you didn’t. they then told you they would never give you information again, which makes you not very professional. well david the reason i’m bringing this up is because most people mite not understand why you included these twitter accounts well i know why and i’m going to explain. people do you see the second twitter account yeswap well he is a blog writer that has his own site and he broke a story about the iphone refarm also which in my opioion was better written than david’s. my point is david is not giving yeswap credit formally by mentioning him in the article so instead he just showed an image of his twitter account. yeswap’s website is called prepaidphonenews.com and here is the link to his iphone refarm t-mobile article http://www.prepaidphonenews.com/2012/09/t-mobile-announces-iphone-friendly-1900.html. yeswap mainly blogs about prepaid wireless but still my point is david doesn’t credit smaller sources or in most cases even bigger one’s, sometimes he does but it’s only his friends in the blog world. david if you want to be known as credible you need to credit everybody!

  • TMoFan

    T-Mobile should really offer some sort of refarm map. I’ve have perfect 4G until June and now all I get is EDGE. I just spoke with my cousin and he too had perfect 4G on his SII until August and is now on EDGE. I’m due for an upgrade in Oct so I can hang tight but it seems AWS hspa+ is shrinking and those who have older phones will experience coverage issues.

    Despite my issues I’m really excited to see how this refarm plays out. T-Mobile going a long way to steady the ship.

    • TMoFan

      I was just reading through the comments. I’m sure he meant a SI/Vibrant.

  • Singleweird

    my 4G always beats ATT’s LTE at MINIMUM 4mbps. often matches verizon’s LTE in some areas.

  • Joseph Tongret

    We’re taking steps forward, not backwards, and not standing still! This is all we can ask, and as a long term customer, I very much appreciate they’re efforts. I also appreciate Davids efforts to keep us up to date on the ever changing & growing Tmo of today! It’s a good time to be with T-Mobile right now, and I see a bright future!

  • Hoping we have some 3G up in Charlotte before the end of October since we’re on their top 25 markets list. Worst thing about 2G is no simultaneous voice and data.

  • MatthewMurawski

    Living in the most populated city in the US can have it’s benefits :)

  • Dinlasvegas

    I wonder when las Vegas will be 100%

  • M42

    Who cares about LTE, that’s only for the iPhone fanboys. PC magazine showed T-Mobile’s HSPA+ beat Verizon’s LTE in 90% of the markets. They need to keep building out HSPA+ and expanding that platform to HSPA 84. By starting over T-Mobile is only putting themselves at the back of the race. Again.

    • philyew

      By definition HSPA+ 84 fails the test for the 4G standard (100mbps mobile download), which is confused at the moment, but will become very clear and relevant next year when carriers begin to deploy true 4G using LTE-Advanced.

      Once true 4G networks become available, carriers will cease to be able to describe their 3.5G networks as 4G. You will then get “T-Mobile: the nation’s largest used-to-be 4G network”.

      TM must move to LTE to maintain competitive presence. It’s a commercial imperative. In fact, the way they are doing it puts them at the head of the pack, not the rear, as they are deploying hardware capable of supporting LTE-Advanced while AT&T and Verizon will have to do a network-wide hardware upgrade to reach that point.

  • MasterTan

    In the Portland Oregon area, tmobile is doing something. 3G has been on and off for the past 2 days now on my iPhone 4S. Just in time for my iPhone 5!

    • GwapoAko

      Good for you!

      • MasterTan

        Yes, very good for me…schmuck.

        • GwapoAko

          Sorry what is wrong with my comment? I said, good for you meaning I am happy for you.
          Sent for my iPhone 4$

        • MasterTan

          I took it as sarcasm. Sorry if that was not your intent.

        • GwapoAko

          Not a problem :0)

  • joey

    Will the LTE network work with an AT&T/Unlocked iPhone 5?

  • elijah

    Lets just hope they really do get 1900MHz 3G/4G and LTE on every cell tower they use by the end of 2013. GPRS isn’t cutting it in 2012

  • Winski

    Same old spew of BS we heard from Humm and the idiotic CMO before he got blowed up. The next thing we’ll hear is that they’re ditching all phones going back to wires and cans…. Are these clowns ever going to step up or are they too gutless to do anything?

  • bleeew

    By nationwide lte do they mean its whole network will have lte? What about them upgrading 2G netoworks?

  • Trenthancock

    Doubt Oklahoma will ever get the refarm….

  • BigMixxx

    HYFR! What does this mean for GS II/Amaze owners who have those bands in their phones…more less edge and more HSPA+?

  • dd

    How would this affect users of the unlocked Samsung Galaxy Nexus?

    • gadget_hero

      It wont the Galaxy Nexus is a pentaband WCDMA device and supports 1900mhz HSPA+

      • Tony

        If it’s pentaband then it should pick up the 1700/2100 AWS band and get HSPA+42. It should not pick up the 1900 MHz band since the AWS band is stonger.

        • Mirad77

          Gnex is hspa+21 and will never do hspa+42. That is a hardware limitation and you want to be sure of your info before posting.

    • Mirad77

      Gnex users will be on the advantage as they’ll have reception on 1700/1900/2100 MHz bands for hspa+21.

  • Tom

    so if tmo deploy LTE with the AWS (1700) spectrum, would our older tmo 3g phones still work on its network?

  • Aneirin

    I have been with TMobile through everything for the last 7 years. Unfortunately, I got fed up of the eternal waiting and of the uncertainty. On friday, I showed up at a T-Mobile store in my area (West Palm Beach) and even on our neighboring bigger market (Miami – Fort Lauderdale), on the hope that they were supposed to have the IPhone there ready to demonstrate the functionality on T-Mobile’s network. They were unprepared with information, and only gave me evasive answers.

    I had been on an Even More plus for both me and my wife, with an unlimited Home phone line. At first, UMA on the blackberries was a savior, but then, on my wife’s Nexus S there is no way to put WiFi calling, and even on my HTC One S, half the time I don’t receive the calls or texts when it is on. Connectivity has always been poor at my house with T-Mobile

    That same afternoon (friday), I went to an AT&T store and switched my old plain phone line + DSL extreme for DSL direct, and ordered two IPhone 5’s. 64 Gb, with 6Gb shared data. I know it is more expensive, and I didn’t want to do it, but you know, in the end the wait was just too much.
    The hardest part will be to completely move away from Android on the HTC One S, but I suspect I will get over it in no time.
    Good luck to you all.

    • Mirad77

      Am surprise you this going for 7yrs and you just switch to at$t. You’ve come this far 3 months wouldn’t kill ya’. But you will see the difference in network and your wallet tho’.

  • daswahnsinn

    I would love to see anything other than 2G in my area. It’s hard for me to even care about 4G and LTE when I have download speeds of 100kbs.

  • Frank Lenovo

    Hello folks I have a iPhone 4S factory unlocked now I see 3G I am located in NYC uptown GWB it is really fast maybe 5 times than edge E

  • Mark

    Any word on whether they are still expanding HSPA+ into markets that don’t have it yet? I don’t think the LTE is going to matter for my One S, and I know the refarm won’t (unless they break existing frequencies).

  • Frank Alvarez

    If you have an unlocked iPhone…is wifi hotspot free?

  • Ryan DeArmond

    I live in Las Vegas… and I see the difference. Currently using the HTC one S. and Im always on 4G now, with far less switching between 4G and 2G. So I couldnt be happier.

  • danrey22312

    3G sighting on my wife’s iphone 4 in Alexandria, Virginia 2 miles from our house.
    She said she noticed it around Kingstown, VA. We were at a McDees drive thru and I saw the 3G indicator. Ran speedtest and it got all the way to 2.8Mbps download speed.

  • Jose Alvarado

    How will this effect my coverage and data speeds while I’m using an unlocked pentaband galaxy nexus here in Los Angeles California?

  • TheWorldisYours

    Airportal.de

    Everyone should check it out
    It offers a map of 3G sightings on any 1900mHz phone (including iPhone)

  • price

    Here is an unofficial google map of where the phones are getting HSPA/3G on 1900MHz http://www.airportal.de/ also the pricing is much better for unlimited 4G if you use the MVNO solavei.com/price