T-Mobile Says “Making Great Progress” On 4G Network Modernization

T-Mobile Senior Vice President Dave Mayo took to the company’s Insight and Issues blog this afternoon and provided us with a brief update on T-Mobile’s current 4G network modernization progress. Let’s hit some of the high-points as Mayo says that the first 400 modernized GSM/HSPA+ sites will be completed by the end of June, with more than 2,500 sites installed by the end of July. Of course, those sites are likely scattered across the country and are not ready for true consumer tests.

Furthermore, Mayo says the company has “…also secured zoning approval or do not require zoning for over 19,500 sites and have completed necessary entitlement work, including obtaining building permits for over 4,000 sites”

The good news is that T-Mobile is already testing some “small scale” tests of 4G HSPA+ service in the 1900MHz spectrum, as we just saw earlier in the week at Apple’s Developer Conference in San Francisco.

As so many of you ask, we’ll highlight with bold faced font this next sentence and say that “…More of these speed sightings will occur as we work toward introducing 4G HSPA+ service in our 1900 MHz spectrum in a large number of markets later this year.”

As for T-Mobile’s LTE rollout, trials are already underway and beginning this summer, T-Mobile will using Release-10 equipment in these trials hoping to give the company a big edge over the competition in the LTE arena when the network launches next year.

Hit the full press release below for all the details.

T-Mobile

 

Full Press Release:

By: Dave Mayo, senior vice president of technology

We’re making great progress in just three short months since we first announced T-Mobile’s $4 billion 4G network evolution plan, including network modernization and deployment of long term evolution (LTE) service in 2013.  Here are some of the highlights:

Just last month, T-Mobile announced multi-year agreements with Ericsson and Nokia Siemens Networks to support our $4 billion 4G network evolution plan, which will include a modernization of 37,000 cell sites and a move to the latest, state-of-the-art, LTE release 10 capable equipment.

Initially, this effort will improve existing voice and data coverage, make our 4G network compatible with a broader range of devices (including the iPhone), and pave the way for long term evolution (LTE) service next year.

With contracts in place, we’re making excellent headway on our network infrastructure transformation. By the end of this month we expect new equipment to be installed at our first 400 modernized GSM / HSPA+ sites and we plan to grow this to over 2,500 sites by the end of July.

We’ve also secured zoning approval or do not require zoning for over 19,500 sites and have completed necessary entitlement work, including obtaining building permits for over 4,000 sites.

As new equipment is in place, we’re turning up some small scale tests of 4G HSPA+ service in our 1900 MHz spectrum. Some customers with unlocked iPhones recently saw evidence of those tests; clocking much faster data speeds at the Moscone West conference center in San Francisco.  More of these speed sightings will occur as we work toward introducing 4G HSPA+ service in our 1900 MHz spectrum in a large number of markets later this year.

Finally, LTE trials are underway and this summer we’ll begin using Release-10 equipment in these trials. The ability to launch with this next version of LTE technology is one advantage of launching next year.

We’ll be sure to keep you posted on our progress along the way.

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  • Xavier

    O Tmo…when will Pink rain down upon us again…

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_CYQUMMC7Z4UBLSHQAJGNJBKVPM JamesS

    Woo hoo! Can’t wait!

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_CYQUMMC7Z4UBLSHQAJGNJBKVPM JamesS

    Woo hoo! Can’t wait!

  • GwapoAko

    Yes!!! Go Tmobile!!!

    Dear At&t and Mr. Randall,

    Thank you for the $4 billion :0)

    Sincerely,

    Tmobile

    Sent from my iPhone 4$

    • Deadeye37

       Amen!

      BTW, kung gwapo ka, pogi ako!  Ayos naman ang palayaw mo!

    • Deadeye37

       Amen!

      BTW, kung gwapo ka, pogi ako!  Ayos naman ang palayaw mo!

      • GwapoAko

        Ayos talaga hehehe!!! Yan ang surname ko hehheeh :0)

        • binfartin

          hahahaha! Mga baliw!

  • GwapoAko

    Yes!!! Go Tmobile!!!

    Dear At&t and Mr. Randall,

    Thank you for the $4 billion :0)

    Sincerely,

    Tmobile

    Sent from my iPhone 4$

  • ja5219

    Excellent. Just what I want to hear, 400 sites by the end of this month may seem like a small number but like the post said they are likely scattered across the country. Not to mention the bigger number 2500 sites by the end of July. Beautiful! GO T-Mobile!! 

  • Deadeye37

    SWEET!  I can’t wait to have T-mobile start saying they have the largest AND fastest 4G network around (and it actually be true).  Hopefully this will give T-mobile a huge leg up.
     
    Now if they could only expand their network footprint (or get that AT&T roaming deal started).

  • Deadeye37

    SWEET!  I can’t wait to have T-mobile start saying they have the largest AND fastest 4G network around (and it actually be true).  Hopefully this will give T-mobile a huge leg up.
     
    Now if they could only expand their network footprint (or get that AT&T roaming deal started).

    • Jim Jiang

      It will, 99% of cell sites will get LTE and HSPA

  • UMA_Fan

    So is LTE release 10 LTE advanced?  If so, why don’t they just say that to get them some positive buzz…  The perception is that they are playing catch up to At&t and Verizon when the reality is that they are launching something better than at&t and verizon.

  • UMA_Fan

    So is LTE release 10 LTE advanced?  If so, why don’t they just say that to get them some positive buzz…  The perception is that they are playing catch up to At&t and Verizon when the reality is that they are launching something better than at&t and verizon.

    • Tayshaun

      My guess is that they are likely avoiding using that terminology because though they will be deploying LTE Advanced hardware, only standard LTE will be operational at the time of deployment. T-Mo probably doesn’t want people getting confused thinking they’re jumping straight to LTE-A in early 2013.

      • UMA_Fan

        Is LTE advanced backwards compatible like HSPA+ was?

        • Tayshaun

          As far as I know, yes, but it also depends on how the carriers choose to implement LTE-A throughout there network. As in, they might want to make you buy new handsets to access the newer network

        • http://pharaohtechblog.blogspot.com/ Conan Kudo (ニール・ゴンパ)

          LTE-Advanced is actually a series of releases. Full LTE-Advanced will be in 3GPP Release 12, but a majority of the important features is included in 3GPP Release 10 and Release 11. Release 10 gear is also software upgradable to Release 11 and Release 12, since it is fully software defined and fully reconfigurable.

        • Tayshaun

           Interesting.. So as far as handsets go, will current models be able to take advantage of LTE Advanced (Whether it be Release 10, 11, 12 etc) when it’s released? Or are new phones required?

        • http://pharaohtechblog.blogspot.com/ Conan Kudo (ニール・ゴンパ)

          Some features at the handset side will be offered through software updates, but most of them are hardware specific on the handset side, so new hardware will be required for that. Infrastructure is big enough that you can have fully software-defined equipment.

  • MagentaMadness

    We just cleared 10 Mhz of 2G spectrum from our market to re-farm it for 4G. The process is moving right along!

  • MarcusDW

    All I get is EDGE from a repeater while I’m at work.  I CAN’T WAIT to get HSPA+ at my cubicle!!

    • MacRat

      Your employer doesn’t have wifi?

      • MarcusDW

        It’s gov’t wifi.   I haven’t felt like dealing with renewing my access every week.

  • http://profiles.google.com/scottoldfield Scott Oldfield

    Can anyone tell me how LTE release 10 is better than whatever release (release 8?) the other carriers have?

    • Jarrod

      Faster speed and efficiency

    • guidomus_maximus

      Includes voice for one thing which means your phone only has to run one radio.  Other carriers run voice over one radio and data over another.  Sucks battery.

      Also remember all that crap about who had ‘real’ 4G? and how we eventially found out that WiMax wasn’t ‘real’ 4G and HSPA+ wasn’t ‘real’ 4G and the LTE implemented by Verizon and ATT wasn’t ‘real’ 4G.  The governing body, they changed the definition of what ‘real’ 4G was so that all the carriers could say that had ’4G?

      LTE rel 10 is ‘real’ 4G old school up to 100 mbs

      • http://pharaohtechblog.blogspot.com/ Conan Kudo (ニール・ゴンパ)

        It actually can go up to 150Mbps for mobiles, and 1Gbps for fixed (stationary) connections.

    • Jim Jiang

      And, Can be called the ORIGINAL 4g, as its the real 4g, but by then, it may be called 5g for marketing;s sake

  • http://benpike.net/ Ben Pike

    1% now – 6% by next month – hopefully they will pick up the pace a little to reach the 75% goal by the end of the year.

    Looking forward to the coverage improvements this will bring.

  • BahamasGeek242

    NICE !!! I cant wait to see what markets get it first.  I hope Seattle and Portland are high on the list :)

  • TMoFan

    I don’t know about anyone else, but I’m at the edge of my seat waiting to see how this all pans out. I look at this network revitalization project as a rebirth, and believe we’ll start to see T-Mobile on the rise in the coming months and beyond when everything is complete. T-Mobile is doing LTE the right way but not rushing it out and deploying revision 10. It will be an easy upgrade to LTE-advance down the road and that will be TMo’s advantage in the LTE race. Not to mention that the network will mirror at&t’s and that opens up the door for many phones that will be compatible.

    Go TMo, go!

    • ChadBroChillz

      Can someone explain to me what is so great about LTE-A. I understand that it brings carrier aggregation, but I mean how will that help tmobile, and what other features does it bring to set it apart from the other LTE networks.

      I understand that sprint plans to aggregate their 800mhz to their 1900mhz to create a continuous 10×10. I also know ATT is going to bind its qualcomm unpaired spectrum to the downlink of its current 700mhz spectrum to boost the download speeds. Does tmobile have plans like these?

      • http://pharaohtechblog.blogspot.com/ Conan Kudo (ニール・ゴンパ)

        LTE-Advanced also supports aggregating non-LTE connections. You could aggregate a separate HSPA+ connection with LTE to boost the connection even more.

  • Steven Hammons

    This is so Fantastic! Im so happy I just made the switch. Im going to have an efficient, 2G/3G/4G/LTE, true high speed smartphone. The big V may have LTE but it is terribly inefficient and they are so expensive. I want to thank AT&T for their lack of foresight into what both the FCC and consumers would let them get away with. And my former provider Sprint can continue on alone with there paltry 600-900kbps. Very slow network, steep iphone debt, and an LTE timeframe to infinity and and beyond are going to kill them. Im so upset that they just abandon their Wimax build out. I had fully supported it purchasing four 4G devices, Lame. Well no more.

  • Xavier

    o_O………………………O_o  

    interesting…where are the complaining about this site being iphone news heavy…

  • ChadBroChillz

    Wow, That is quick. I have been following Sprint’s LTE rollout/Network vision, and they are not even moving that these speeds. I thought sprint was moving crazy fast, but Tmobile just lapped them twice. 

    • Xavier

       they too busy giving unlimited data maybe  lol

  • KPB

    I’m excited about this and it really worked out well for T-Mobile. They stayed competitive on speed with out having to deal with the cost/battery life issues of early LTE implementations or having to get a new block of spectrum to deploy LTE in.

    The one thing I have noticed is that a lot their existing devices don’t seem to support HSPA+ in the PCS band and when they start deploying LTE you’ll end up with less AWS HSPA+ spectrum. The AWS spectrum from AT&T is adding 6mhz on average but they are going to use 20mhz for LTE so there will be on average 14mhz less AWS HSPA+ for devices like the G2, G2x etc. This could lead to some congestion on the AWS HSPA+ depending on how they do with getting people to phones that support HSPA+ on the PCS bands between now and then.

  • gwhyte01

    72mbps….drooling. It’s funny how the fourth largest carrier in the us without the precious iphone will be able to run at the fastest speed, and provide better prices to its customers.

    • chum lee

       And the sheeple still won’t buy T-Mobile, because…..it doesn’t have the iPhone. The general American public doesn’t care about it unless it has that Apple logo on it, and is overpriced.

      • Guest911

        Or only the sheeple buy Tmobile and the majority of the country has it right?

        • gwhyte01

          Well lets not call them names, but one thing i noticed is, people like to spend money on overpriced things. Me personally, i cant do it. I need specs. I need to examine within myself to see if its gonna be profitable before i buy it, not because its the hottest thing around. I do have a preference tho, i love my windows phone, and i cant wait for a T-MOBILE LTE Windows phone. I can taste it.

        • Mfor33

           yea it possibly couldnt be that the iphone is just a better phone. because everyone who owns a smartphone is all about rooting and all this other crap instead of just wanting to use the phone and not get frustrated….sometimes im embarassed to be part of the android world

        • teabaghater

           DONT THINK SO.

    • Jim Jiang

      T Mobile made 1.4 Billion last year

  • BigMixxx

    Ok cool…

    now the device lineup.  Does this put t mobile back in the business of getting it’s own special phones to take advantage of network infrastructure that is uberfast, but having to wait for the right phones to fit the architecture. 

    Understanding we get ALL other phones from any other GSM carrier (hello padphone! bring that ass here) What device will be available to take advantage of the effeciencies in the network design.

    Big kudo on the first to get real 4g.  I’m going to have the verizon argument again this weekend.  LOL.  I have all of my ducks in a row, but I know they won’t understand a word I’m talking about…

  • NinaG

    So wait does that mean there will be some 1900mhz by the end of june or what? kind of confused .. :(

    • MacRat

      More likely around December as T-Mobile stated in their original refarming announcement.

  • ncmacasl

    Hopefully this means (PLEASE Correct me if I am wrong) that those of us in Suburbia with 2.5G STILL can expect a 4G upgrade in a few months?!?!?

  • Paul

    My bill came today with 4G insert ad with Carly Foulkes’ nipples sticking out thru her leather jacket

    • Brandon

      Its a fold in the leather. I thought I saw it also on the tv in the store but in another frame she rotated and you could clearly see that it was a fold in the leather.

  • Ddd

    I’m still waiting to see any other non T-Mobile phone beat my amaze download speed of 21 MB!

    • Mfor33

       i agree. none of the phones released or to be released are anything but a marginal upgrade to the amaze.

  • http://www.facebook.com/MMontanez347 Michael Montanez

    will tmobiles galaxy s3 be compatible with these new network speeds….including their upcoming LTE NETWORK or is it too early to know yet??

    • http://tmonews.com David

      No phone they have is LTE compatible, that’s a hardware factor, not a software one. All of the phones will be ready for their refarmed network going forward, at least that certainly seems to be the idea. Notice I didn’t say all phones, but all phones going forward!

      • http://www.facebook.com/MMontanez347 Michael Montanez

        i see…i figured the GS3 would be compatible because the s4 processor in the phone can be use for LTE Networks…now idk if i just get the GS3 or wait for a phone that supports tmobiles new amazing speeds…damn decisions!!

        • http://pharaohtechblog.blogspot.com/ Conan Kudo (ニール・ゴンパ)

          If you’ve got the Value plan, don’t worry about it and get the Galaxy S III anyway. You can upgrade later without having to deal with any plan contract requirements. You’ll of course have to pay for the new device. ;)

        • http://twitter.com/SParKlngCyaNide SparklingCyanide

           I’m just buying the GS3 outright unsubsidized and Enjoy that and when the first T-Mobile LTE phones come out next year I’ll be jumping all over those as well.  cannot wait, I’m very Excited! – D

        • http://www.facebook.com/MMontanez347 Michael Montanez

          im with you! me personally, 5mbps on my G2 is more then enough in terms of data speeds….anything under that i will not have so ima stick with getting the GS3. Besides, LTE IS A MAJOR BATTERY HOGG so ill wait till LTE is battery friendly or untill they stick bigger batteries in phones

        • MarcusDW

          I’m using my brother’s upgrade lol and then I’m using mine on an LTE phone next year.

        • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1350219741 Derrick Ford

           Its the LTE Radio, and the Chip That needs to be in the phone.  So, no Tmobile Phone is LTE Compatible – yet.

  • Zingar

    What we really come to see on these “4g network modernization” or “1900 MHz spectrum” articles are 2 lines: “We will carry the iPhone” OR, “We are 100% iPhone compatible”. That’s it. Otherwise this will make no difference if after all, android phones work well on the current spectrum.

    • risingstorm

      you do realize that iphones are now and probably always will be 3G right?

      • David Haas

        Probably not always.  The next gen iPhone is pretty much destined to include LTE radios.  The third-gen iPad AT&T/International appears to support T-Mobile’s planned LTE bands (AWS band IV), so an unlocked [AT&T] sixth-gen iPhone will still likely work full force on T-Mobile LTE deployment, its 3G/’4G’ backup support, as well as GSM.

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/NWOCIYMX64U6TYAUMI5NSK2O5A chris meyers

        Always? Sorry I have to laugh, no, wrong. Network upgrades ensure that handset manufacturers will keep moving forward. 3G won’t even exist “forever”.

  • Guestt1

    Does this mean i will finally be of GPRS and EDGE where i live?

  • Madogmoody

    Hey this is awesome I’ve been waiting for an announcement like this for ages. I guess the test at WWDC went super well. Also @David do u know how/if it’s possible to unlock a lumia 900 from at&t at the moment I’ve been seeing almost all unlock sites say that at&t are being a..holes about getting that phone unlocked.

    • MisterBlue

      I’ve been wanting to find this out too.  Wish I could use the Lumia 900 on Tmobile.

  • SirAuron14

    hope to see the iphone soon coming to tmobile. 

    • MacRat

      You can buy the iPhone unlocked directly from Apple today.

      • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=547940103 Whitney Danielle Pyant

         Does all android fanboys said that? We get you don’t want the iphone on Tmobile so will you please shut up with that

        • MacRat

          I have an unlocked iPhone on T-Mobile.

  • Anonymous

    hey I have a question.

    When tmo’s LTE network goes live, will I be able to use LTE phones from other providers at full speed? Or will we have the same “the other providers phone doesn’t support tmo’s LTE band” like we have now with 3g? thanks!

    • David Haas

      IIRC, T-Mobile will be using one of the same bands as AT&T (and it appears MetroPCS and Cricket), so unlocked AT&T and MetroPCS/Cricket compatible LTE phones should theoretically work.  Metro/Cricket phones, assuming they will be allowed to unlock and work, will not work outside of LTE coverage unless they’re also GSM/UTMS/HSPA compatible phones.

    • Justinreynolds98

      T-Mobile sa,msung galaxy s3 will be compatible with lte thanks to the qualcomm processor. T-Mobile future proofed the phone. All those crying for quad core would have been stuck on the hspa+21 not even the hspa+42. And idiots who bought the international version can enjoy edge speeds which is 2g.

  • Osasco

    T-mobile is the Honda and Toyota of the cell industry. ATT and Vorizon are the Ford and GM.

    • Mfor33

       nah, ford or gm never tried to buy out honda or toyota and honda or toyota never tried to sell themselves off

      • Osasco

        That is a good point, but the point is that I think again ATT relied on the American patriotism and thought the congress would approve the buy out and eliminate the competition. The congress is patriotic, no doubt, so they know hat compeition from outside is healthy. Tmobie ended up getting a lot of money from ATT. Do you relly think that Tmobile did not see this coming? DO you rally think that Tmobile Germany wants t leave the American market and have no where to go outide Europe, knowing that Europe is in bad shape?

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/NWOCIYMX64U6TYAUMI5NSK2O5A chris meyers

      So wait, is that a compliment or a negative? You do realize that the Japanese car makers are struggling and the American ones are in a full blown recovery right? The Yen is so strong against the dollar, the Japanese are sunk. In all industries, cars, electronics. Everything is moving to Korea and China.

      • None

        Go Kia?

        • Jose Hernandez

           lol

        • Osasco

          SAMSUNG is  Korean giant. Kia is also Korean too.

      • osasco

        So, who has better customer service? Who has better technology? Who relies on American patriotism rather than quality?

        • http://profile.yahoo.com/NWOCIYMX64U6TYAUMI5NSK2O5A chris meyers

          So now you’re going to humor us all with a great dissertation on the glories of the highly technological Japanese right? Let me fill you in on how they did business. They used the Koretsus in the 80s, flooded the market with cheap imported junk without all of the technology, they sold them in America for multiples less than they did in their home market because America had looser import restrictions. Meanwhile at home, Japan gouged its local customers by severely limiting imports and used their profits to enable the dumping in America to pick up marketshare. That’s how your glorious Japanese companies came to get the power they had. Now notice I said HAD not have. Japan is over, you know it and I know it. See that;s the thing about unrestricted ‘free-market’ mercantilistic capitalism, it starts off benefiting poorer third world countries until they develop into prosperous ones, then all the manufacturing goes to the next cheapest country. Hence China and Korea today. Sony can’t compete, Honda and Toyota are struggling. What are your massive companies today? Samsung, Hyundai, LG, etc.

        • Mfor33

          Hey smart guy…he meant quality wise. But you are obviously the worst kind of republican who lives in a bubble and doesn’t consider anything unless fox spews it out so whats the point

        • Osasco

          I said qualty, not technology. Quality means you develop your product with the user in mind, not your pocket only. We all sould thank Hodan and Toyota for bringing quality and say Ford and GM “Heloooo!”. Tmobile was the irst that gave usrs the chance to limit the amount of minutes spent, whle with ATT/Cingular people would have no option other than paying overage every mont, or moving to Tmoble. Actually that was what made m move to Tmobile to start with. Had 5 lines with ATT and huge overags every month. I called ATT to ask for a way to limit the usage and was getting ther peculiar arrogant customer representatives. Use in mind and not only your pocket, or you will have to do like GM and FORD and go bagfor help in Washington DC. Pretty much humiliating, so they taste their own recip they appied to their customers. I once had an Oldsmobile and used o receive imilar arrogant tratment at the dealership when taking my Oldsmobile for repair. Same arrogance as ATT service. Then I bough my first Mazda and guess what. Much better customer service from MAzda alers for year now. Congrats to T-mobile and Mazda!

  • Mfor33

    meanwhile i have been a tmobile customer since 2005 and have yet to see anything but EDGE data where i live…but yea cmon lets bring on lte…why not? im not getting it either way

    • None

      100+

    • Jim Jiang

      Do you live in rural america? otherwise just stay for 2 more years, you will not be dissapointed.

      • Mfor33

        Nope live in the capitol. Stay for two more years? 7 hasn’t been enough?

        • Phozfate

           if you are in an area that is edge only for the past 7 years and you are still with t-mobile then you are a moron for complaining. Switching to a carrier with good coverage like verizon would be smart if you care about coverage/speed.

          T-mobile is good only in markets where it has good coverage then the price value is unmatched. The value isn’t good if your service isn’t good.

      • Mark

         What about those of us who DO live in, if not rural America, someplace other than the “Top 100 markets”?  What’s our future with TMo?  (By way of example, we didn’t even get Tmo 3G until c. 2 years ago.)

  • Mfor33

    i stay steady that tmobile’s HSPA+ is more than sufficient and considering its cheaper to build out….i think tmobile is making a mistake. i would rather see them be the only network with 100% HSPA coverage rather then another network joining the lte race

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/NWOCIYMX64U6TYAUMI5NSK2O5A chris meyers

      How do I put this nicely? You’re on the wrong side of history, as Reagan used to be fond of saying. Things progress, LTE will start out as a portion of the AWS spectrum, but will eventually migrate to the entire AWS spectrum. The future isn’t HSPA+, it’s LTE, and this is just the starting point. All HSPA+ will eventually be on 1900 ONLY within a few years, and then LTE will added to 1900 as well after that, and HSPA will be phased out.

      • Mfor33

         hahah wrong side of history and you cite reagan…..hahahaha

        • Jim Jiang

          They will keep both up, LTE is best where there are LOTS of subscribers in a cell, HSPA is best at cost/subscriber, but HSPA isn;t best at handing the number of celluar devices predicted in the USA by 2015. HSPA simply put is a  mix of the good in 3G and 4G, high speed, low cost and good battery life.

        • http://profile.yahoo.com/NWOCIYMX64U6TYAUMI5NSK2O5A chris meyers

          I cited Reagan because he used to quote it speaking about those repressive Stalinist Eastern European regimes that used to cage in their people behind fences and walls. But yeah, seems like the current moron in the White House would define the wrong side of history pretty well, wouldn’t he? Not for too much longer though ;-)

        • Mfor33

          Oh please, no matter what he does he won’t be worse than bush, as far as the Ronald goes…he started the decline of America and republicans are hell bent on keeping that dream going. Romney??! Hahahahahah yea right

        • TMOTECH

          Hey bud, this is not a political blog. If you want to speak about big boy stuff,  first you need to know what your talking about and not get your history from Family Guy or John Stewart. Second. Don’t mix fun with politics. Go bash Reagan somewhere else. 

        • Aattilk

          Hey bud, he was replying to an obvious conservative douche bag who thinks Obama is ruining this country. He did not start a political conversation, they Reagan worshiper did. And yes, Reagan did start the decline of this country and it got somewhat better with Clinton and then Bush threw all that away. Obama came into a catastrophe and did the best with what he could. Please, refrain from making big people comments until you take US History in high school.

    • Justinreynolds98

      . LTE is designed to be more efficient then other wireless networks (HSPA+, 3G, etc. It is alsodesigned to handle more people without waste of speed. LTE+ (LTE advanced) is amuch different story (best part is, it’s a software upgrade from LTE).T-Mobile will have late advanced which is better than the late on verizon’att and sprint. Lte is better more efficient technology,

  • GinaDee

    Has T-Mobile USA ever committed to just finishing an entire network build out?  

    I wish they would just say they will have their entire PCS network overlaid with HSPA+ by 2013 or something similar.  

    They’ll never be known for a solid contiguous network experience if it’s always done in patches and full of holes in between service areas.

    • Jim Jiang

      Their GRPS/GSM network?

  • rasstar

    Man I hope to get an iPhone finally.

    • MacRat

      The iPhone doesn’t have LTE.

      • Jarrod

        Who’s to say it won’t? Typically most features from the iPad the iPhone don’t have get carried over to it so it could have DC-HSPA+ and LTE capability.

      • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=547940103 Whitney Danielle Pyant

         iphone 5 will have LTE

  • Get_at_Me_Banana

    im curious with all the re farming of the 1900 MHz will all the smartphone like the g2x,sensation 4g,amaze etc. sense they use the 1900 MHz as their 2g data network will it stay on 4g data in places where they dont have 4g hspa+ coverage? because their are going to use the 1900 Mhz with the hspa+ service

    • J-Hop2o6

      You need to re-write that. But i’ll try my best to make sense of it. If your area is refarmed with 1900 HSPA+ and your phone supports 1900 HSPA+ (not many Tmo branded phones do currently, but MANY non-Tmo phones do), then the phone will use either 1700 or 1900 HSPA+, depending on the signal strength. If neither of those, then 1900 GSM.

      • Get_at_Me_Banana

         so it basically stay the same if there’s 2g service in a area it stays 2g its only affecting non t mobile phone mainly att phones?

        • J-Hop2o6

          If your area gets refarmed to 1900 HSPA+ and your phone supports 1900 HSPA+, then you will be on HSPA+. I think mainly Tmo Samsung smartphones support 1900 HSPA+

        • get_at_me_banana

          Idk about if my area will be re farming but I got the g2x so it wouldn’t matter 1900 is 2g I was just curious if I would get 4g in areas where there’s 2g service around the dirty south Carolina. But I was thinking about buying a Motorola atrix 2 with the webtop lol

        • J-Hop2o6

          If an area already has HSPA+ then it will be refarmed. If the area is still 2G/EDGE then it take more time after the end of 2012 to get the refarmed 1900. All we know so far is Tmo is focusing on the Top 25 markets for the 1900 refarm for this year. Next year will reach more markets.

        • Get_at_Me_Banana

           ok got cha! hopefully they upgrade the area with 2g/edge to hspa+ .

        • TMOTECH

          Our 3G 4G footprint will continue to expand. Eventually all 2G coverage will be covered by 3G as well and eventually, years from now, 4G. I cannot promise when that will be but it will happen eventually. Could be next year could be the year after… At some point in time the vendors will stop supporting the 2G equipment and we will not have a choice. Just like analog went away, So will GSM. At&t already has a plan to decommission it’s GSM network. Ours will not happen so quickly because we depend on overseas roamers for a lot of revenue but it will still go away sometime in the future. 

        • Jctusa7

          Tmotech… do you know how many cell sites t mobile has in total.. i would assume its more than 37,000

        • TMOTECH

          Around 52000

    • TMOTECH

      The sensation and all 4G phones that came after it support 1900 MHZ HSPA+. The G2 will not. 

      • B-Mobile

        According to gsmarea the vibrant has 1900 HSDPA support – HSDPA 1700 / 1900 / 2100. Does this mean after the refam in my area I will experience a better 3G footprint in old 2G locations?

        • TMOTECH

          If the Cell site has only 2G on it it will probably stay that way until next year.  But they will all eventually be upgraded to 3G / 4G. See My comments below….

  • Jmpowell813

    will 4g phones get faster?

  • Jim Jiang

    People, AWS Stands for the 1700/2100 MHz Spectrum, Also, your phone will become NEGLIGIBLY faster, as the switch from coax to Fiber will speed up communications slightly, but with the upgrades at 37k cell sites, this may make T Mobile really compete with Verizion’s LTE, as it will have similar coverage (One will obviously be best), but with 37k cell sites, most should get the full treatment, as it would push T Mobile to the front of the pack in technology, as T-Mobile, ATT, Verizion, and Sprint aall are deploying LTE in the same way, only with T Mobile using more advanced equipment (Att are 20×20 LTE, 20 Mhz(iirc), on 20 channels communicating to your smart phones. IF TMobile can get spectum, I would like them deploy 30×30 or even 40×40 LTE, and 672+ HSPA+ as Both are TRUE 4G, but are spectrum hogs, lets just hope tMobile can launch nation wide 4g (lte)coverage by Summer 2013.

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/NWOCIYMX64U6TYAUMI5NSK2O5A chris meyers

      Not just negligably faster on HSPA+, but faster and better in-building penetration and 4G HSPA signal in general if they have a 4G HSPA phone that supports the 1900 Mhz refarmed spectrum. 1900 is just a better frequency for propogation.

      • Jim Jiang

        Yep that is infact true. But most phone are capped at their current radios set, HSPA+ 7,14,21,and 42 each number being their max speed in mbps.

    • ChadBroChillz

      37k cell sites is a ton, but tmobile uses PCS/AWS. They have to have more cell sites compared to Verizon, who has nationwide 850/700.  Also Verizon has said by the end of 2013, that they will have their native network covered in LTE. Verizon is going to be king of LTE coverage, like they were with 3G. Tmobile should at least be able to cover 250+ Million POPS, which is close to what ATT/Sprint said they planned to cover. So if you live in MiddleOfNowhere, Montanna, go with verizon, but if you live in or near the city, Tmobile should be a viable option for you. 

      Also 20mhz is 10×10, not 20×20.  And ATT only has enough spectrum to cover 1/3 the country in 20mhz. another 1/3 will get 10mhz, and the last 3rd will not get any LTE. 

      The only carrier that has enough unused spectrum to build a True LTE network is Clearwire. If we look at current tests to get to 1Gbps, the companies( Ericsson and Nokia) needed 60Mhz for downlink and a device with an 8×8 MIMO antenna configuration. If you were using traditional paired spectrum, to get that 60mhz for downlink, you would need 120Mhz of spectrum total.

      Also HSPA+672 is not True 4G. To be TRUE 4G, you must have speeds of 1Gbps for low mobility communication( stationary and pedestrians) and 100+Mbps for high mobility communication( trains and cars).  

      • http://twitter.com/ReyBanz Reyes Banz Paramore

         Amazing post @ChadBroChillz:disqus but one thing I do have to mention is that all of the top 4 American carriers have between 37,000 and 40,000 towers.

    • TMOTECH

      And to add to what others have replied to you… All of the 1900 MHZ radios are going at the top of the tower which means they are at the antenna or in some markets, in the antenna.  This means little to no loss from the radio to the antenna and a better coverage area. Plus, moving half of our traffic to 1900 MHZ it will reduce interference in the AWS band which will increase coverage and quality as well. So when it is all done everyone will have a better experience. And at the same time, we are continuing to add 3G/4G service (HSPA+)  to our 2G only sites. So Our 3G/4G foot print will get bigger as well.

  • None

    blah blah blah… I am just tired of my Android phone being on E. Plain ole 3G would be a godsend. And I bet I AM in one of those top 100 markets (Baltimore). I used to have 3G and then all of the sudden, junk signal day in, day out. I just want 3G back.

    • Jim Jiang

      Factory Reset my friend. Also, just bring it into a tmo factory store for tech assistance

      • None

        I have factory reset.  TMO store will take one look at my Mororola Charm and try to sell me something else.  I dont want to pay for something else.  I want my own phone with the 3G service it has had for the last year+.
        I am not asking for a new phone, better phone, software update, or something else for free.  I am not seeking to take anything I am not paying for.  But I expect TMO to hold up their end and prvide the 3G service I had when I bought it.

        • Andrew Vallejo

          First problem is its a charm. I would most likely attribute poor signal to the device itself. It was really inexpensive when it launched and most likely didnt have the greatest internals. Poor signal isnt always on the network side of things. The phone technology isnt going to be perfect and sometimes the devices themselves fail.

    • Vasyok

      I am also in Baltimore and always have 4g on my phone, Baltimore, Pikesville, Owings Mills, Columbia, Bethesda, Silver Spring, Reisterstown, I never have bad coverage.  I don’t know where you live in Baltimore, but it might be your phone, have it checked out.

    • George

      do you have a new 4G sim card? if not go to t-mobile store and get one for free

      • George

        I had the similar problem when I got mytouch 4g, I transferred the sim card from my old phone (vibrant) and signal was really bad. I called the tech support and they directed me to the store where I swapped my sim cards to that newer 4G one and valla, it worked!

      • None

        No, I do not have a 4G card, it is a 3G phone.

      • Jim Jiang

        HPSA+ and UMTS are the same thing, both in Europe are considered “3G” but Tmo Markets it as 4G because they use HSPA+42 So you just need to get a new sim card.

    • Getsome

      4g sim card means nothing. Its a myth that a new sim increases data speeds

  • Robjms14

    On a different note. I got 19.11 Mbps on my galaxy s2 :D

    • https://www.facebook.com/pages/TruTechies/241886182579005 TruTechies

       Really? I’ve still carrying my myTouch 4G around and it won’t go faster than 14.4 Mbps. Still this is fast enough for me :D

      • itmustbejj

        The mytouch 4g hpsa+ radio only supports up to 14.4Mbps, I believe the gs2 supports up to 42Mbps

  • Kimyk

    so is tmobile adding the 1900 band by june or what? 

    • TMOTECH

      No. Read the article. It said 400 sites scattered across the markets. We will still have 36,600 sites to go. It will be late in the year before anything substantial happens. There is tons of work to do. 

  • Abe_The_Babe

    Does this mean the Galaxy S3 won’t be future proof?

    • J-Hop2o6

      The Tmo version will support 1700 & 1900 HSPA+, so it’ll be fine until your next upgrade.

    • Jarrod

      The T-Mobile version won’t have LTE I think.

  • Daswahnsinn

    I love 4G but I don’t have it where I live. I only have EDGE. So I hope this means more market and the expansion of current. I have pretty decent 4G about 30mins away but I would like to have it closer. This sounds like great news. Hopefully the Shenandoah Valley and the rest of northern VA will see some of this action. 

    • http://twitter.com/ReyBanz Reyes Banz Paramore

      For a second think about what they said in the press release. They’re modernizing all of they’re 37,000 cell sites which could mean one thing and one thing only they’re broadening the coverage and adding LTE/HSPA+ to all the towers just how Sprint is adding LTE, 1x Advanced and enhanced 3G to all its towers. T-Mo and Sprint are the only two carriers choosing this approach, and in the end customers of both will rejoice knowing that they’re signal, reliability and dropped call rates exceed Verizon and US Cellular. Then that’s when the real competition starts. FYI AT&T is so dreadful that they’re not even a factor.

      • Jarrod

        I thought they had something like 40/50k towers?

  • Andrew Vallejo

    That release 10 action is going to place T-mobile in the center of the LTE battle. 

  • Jarrod

    Does anyone think T-Mobile will use DC-HSPA+ on PCS? If so that would be really cool to get the new iPad and have a blazing fast mobile data network.

    • MagentaMadness

      We just recently harvested 1/2 of our 2G spectrum and refarmed it for 4G…we just also just recently trialed iphone and ipad on TMO’s 4G network at +6 Mbps…this is just a trial but its on the way!

  • Mloudt

    tmo usa is a struggling company that doesn’t get much support from its parent company DT, which we all know this. but we keep reading about them trying to sell their 37,000 cell site towers. i’ve said to myself since I heard they were going to do this that they are dumb for trying to sell all the towers. reportedly they can make between 2.5-3.5 billion most likely 3billion for all towers.  well for a company that doesn’t get much support it doesn’t make sense to give away all of what you own it would just make tmo usa less valuable. my point is as you see in the chart it only costs tmo usa 1.4 billion to start refarmiing and roll out the lte network. remember the failed att deal gave tmo usa 1 billion in spectrum in top markets so when you add this with 1.4 billion investment from DT/Tmo Usa you get refarming and the beginning of the lte build out for this year and next year. conclusion if tmo usa was smart they would sell half their towers make around 1.5 billion which will be enough to pay for the 1.4 billion expansion of their current network and also still own half their towers. by only selling half they will be able to sell the towers faster and will also see quicker return on their invest from vendors.

    • sk4g

      They’re investing 4 billion dollars on their 4g network

      • Mloudt

         yea i know that that’s why i said this year and next year. their spending 4billion over 4years my explanation is for this year and next year in which they are spending an initial 1.4billion just like the article says also read closer next time

        • Jim Jiang

          But, IIRC, the buildout was funded by money from DT and the failed merger.

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