DISH Networks And AT&T Customers Oppose the Merger

This has to be one of the most interesting developments in this merger case, if you ask me at least.  11 AT&T customers have gone to the New York-based law firm of Bursor & Fisher to help file an arbitration demand against AT&T, proposing that the merger will be in violation of the Clayton Antitrust Act.  Attorney Scott Bursor discuses the grounds for this arbitration:

 “Government enforcement is an important part of the antitrust laws, but the Clayton Act also permits private parties who may be adversely affected to challenge a proposed merger.  That means any AT&T cellphone, data or iPad customer who will suffer higher prices and diminished service because of this merger can sue to stop it from happening.”

This firm has set up a website to hopefully gather many more personal arbitration cases to help fight the merger (LAWYERED).  Real people, taking a stand, I love it.

In Addition to AT&T customers, DISH Network has joined the opposition, siding with Senator Kohl

“Chairman Kohl’s thoughtful and thorough letter urging the FCC and U.S. Department of Justice to reject the proposed AT&T/T-Mobile merger reflects the chairman’s experience as a business owner as well as his record as a legislator. Competition is the life-blood of a market economy, and Chairman Kohl correctly asserts the harm to competition that this merger would inflict.”

Things are getting heated, or as heated as they can in the legal realm.

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  • Respawn

    Nice!! This at least keeps hope alive that we won’t get screwed come 2012. Not by AT&T anyway.

  • n900mixalot

    T-Mobile is building another tower near me (Maryland) and at the same time one of their authorized resellers closed down.

    • The ATL Guy

      They do get 6 BILLION if this sale fails so its business as usual for TMobile. 

      • n900mixalot

        Word. I don’t care WHO they sell to, just as long as it isn’t AT&T.

  • Anonymous

    Funny that it’s a group of AT&T customers that started the arbitration.  Maybe another separate group of T-mobile customers should start their own arbitration under the Clayton Antritrust Act.

    • Anonymous

      If we only did that before Cingular got backstabbed from the “inside”.

  • Anonymous

    This really makes no sense, AT&T has made no suggestion -YET- that prices will increase and without a factual basis, this will be thrown into the wind without a second thought.  Beyond that, this wouldn’t impair AT&T customers’ services, it would greatly reduce congestion.  Some people really don’t think well before they act.

    • Anonymous

      So you think AT&T will not increase prices once the duopoly forms?  No one suggested that it would impair AT&T’s services, only that it will make things shittier overall for the consumer.  Apparently you didn’t think well before typing that comment.

      • Anonymous

        Re-read what I typed, read the act that the complainant are proposing, think hard about whether or not AT&T has announced anything in terms of pricing and then look at the second part of the complaint about ‘diminished service’

        Thanks for playing

      • Anonymous

        Re-read what I typed, read the act that the complainant are proposing, think hard about whether or not AT&T has announced anything in terms of pricing and then look at the second part of the complaint about ‘diminished service’

        Thanks for playing

        • hf

          Of course they aren’t going to announce price jumps BEFORE it goes through…

        • hf

          Of course they aren’t going to announce price jumps BEFORE it goes through…

        • Auser72

          @hf, yeah like a thief giving you a warning that he is about to Rob you……..lol.

        • Pdusk88

          Yeah dude your really stupid to think they would announce anything about price changes before their merger goes through. You are really dumb and obviously have no idea about history or economics. When did you drop out of high school?

        • The ATL Guy

          Just a quick FYI you didnt call him a troll. 

        • The ATL Guy

          Your post is chock-full-o’dumb. 
          Its not a merger assclown so maybe you need to get your GED and try again. 

        • Richard Christopher Cardenas

          Do you have your GED? 

          How do you expect anyone to take you seriously, when all your arguments consist of vulgarity, and repetitiveness?

        • The ATL Guy

          You have all the paranoids frothing at the mouth. 

        • The ATL Guy

          You have all the paranoids frothing at the mouth. 

        • Rage

          dude can you PLEASE use another word?!?!?!?  paranoid is getting old real fast!

        • The ATL Guy

          We really did land on the moon

        • Richard Christopher Cardenas

          And your arguments(or lack of) are weak!

        • Rage

          dude can you PLEASE use another word?!?!?!?  paranoid is getting old real fast!

      • Anonymous

        Re-read what I typed, read the act that the complainant are proposing, think hard about whether or not AT&T has announced anything in terms of pricing and then look at the second part of the complaint about ‘diminished service’

        Thanks for playing

      • The ATL Guy

        Its not a phuckin duopoly and you make yourself seem like a moron even claiming it is. 

        • Richard Christopher Cardenas

          Your use of words, punctuation, and grammar; really shows how smart you are. ;)

    • Anonymous

      if you were ATT and you just bought out the competition, wouldnt you raise prices?  Thing about it from a business stand point, given ATT’s history.  They like money and lots of it, and this isnt my opinion, its a fact.

      • Jaygqitalia

        Matter of fact . .If your an ATT customer and you just found out that people who are now part of ur network are paying 50 bucks less then you. Id be pissed

      • Jaygqitalia

        Matter of fact . .If your an ATT customer and you just found out that people who are now part of ur network are paying 50 bucks less then you. Id be pissed

      • The ATL Guy

        You must not be all that in touch with how the free market and competition works. 

        • Rottensteve

          Yeah it is based on GREED these days.

        • Rottensteve

          Yeah it is based on GREED these days.

    • Anonymous

      if you were ATT and you just bought out the competition, wouldnt you raise prices?  Thing about it from a business stand point, given ATT’s history.  They like money and lots of it, and this isnt my opinion, its a fact.

    • The ATL Guy

      You are a minority here dude. 
      Please the paranoid should be along any moment now to call you a ATT troll or maybe even they will imply that you work for ATT or are getting paid to post that. 
      This is one of the few tech forums where the paranoid get a voice so nice job David….you should be proud. 

      • Rage

        dude can you PLEASE use another word?!?!?!?  paranoid is getting old real fast!

      • Rage

        dude can you PLEASE use another word?!?!?!?  paranoid is getting old real fast!

      • Woodstock_15

        So how do you expect them to pay back the 39 billion dollar loan along with the equipment costs to upgrade to LTE? AT&T risks falling majorly behind Verizon if they don’t raise prices. There’s going to be a huge fallout from T-Mobile customers leaving so the amount of customers they claim they will have isn’t true. I expect you to troll around here but be realistic please. It’s simply not logical to think everything is going to remain the same after the acquisition.

  • Anonymous

    This really makes no sense, AT&T has made no suggestion -YET- that prices will increase and without a factual basis, this will be thrown into the wind without a second thought.  Beyond that, this wouldn’t impair AT&T customers’ services, it would greatly reduce congestion.  Some people really don’t think well before they act.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_SVSI3D2IN7O7Y7NJSUDFEBMEKQ Scott L

    Since its not a merger, the case should get thrown out.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_SVSI3D2IN7O7Y7NJSUDFEBMEKQ Scott L

    Since its not a merger, the case should get thrown out.

  • Jon

    What a very interesting turn of events. I didn’t see this coming.

  • Anonymous

    As Andrew says, this is an interesting twist, albeit I’m sure AT&T and T-Mobile anticipated things like this.

    I’ve always said in speeches that the danger of arbitration cases is that the procedures and benefits are no longer the same as existed BEFORE the Net.

    Basically the danger is that a company risks if people can organize (via websites like this) thousands of arbitration cases being filed against it.  That can get very expensive if a company has to pay lawyers to fight 100,000 arbitration cases in varied venues.

    After the SCOTUS took eliminated class actions in AT&T Mobility vs. Concepcion, the way to get a company to stop its cheating, dishonest, unethical, reckless, negligent or incompetent conduct is to use the Net to get out the word and file thousands of arbitration cases like this.

    It’s actually quite brilliant, to use the Net in this fashion.

    A tip o’ the hat to these guys for picking up the post-Concepcion gauntlet. It will be interesting to see how this all plays out.  Keep in mind, as I said before, a request for arbitration can be demanded on any grievance you might have, e.g. the problems people are having with the G2x.

    The companies only response to this is to pay your claim or pay millions in fighting arbitration claims.

  • Anonymous

    As Andrew says, this is an interesting twist, albeit I’m sure AT&T and T-Mobile anticipated things like this.

    I’ve always said in speeches that the danger of arbitration cases is that the procedures and benefits are no longer the same as existed BEFORE the Net.

    Basically the danger is that a company risks if people can organize (via websites like this) thousands of arbitration cases being filed against it.  That can get very expensive if a company has to pay lawyers to fight 100,000 arbitration cases in varied venues.

    After the SCOTUS took eliminated class actions in AT&T Mobility vs. Concepcion, the way to get a company to stop its cheating, dishonest, unethical, reckless, negligent or incompetent conduct is to use the Net to get out the word and file thousands of arbitration cases like this.

    It’s actually quite brilliant, to use the Net in this fashion.

    A tip o’ the hat to these guys for picking up the post-Concepcion gauntlet. It will be interesting to see how this all plays out.  Keep in mind, as I said before, a request for arbitration can be demanded on any grievance you might have, e.g. the problems people are having with the G2x.

    The companies only response to this is to pay your claim or pay millions in fighting arbitration claims.

  • Anonymous

    If anyone thinks that AT&T won’t raise their prices then you must be either real dumb or from another planet. Not only will they raise prices across the board but will squeeze all small Carriers out of business. After that happens Sprint will become the two big guys next victim. This deal should legally be stopped, obviously a violation and if it goes thru as I said before a 3rd party must investigate and follow where the dirty money was divided. This deal must be stopped. 

    • The ATL Guy

      Do you have proof of this instead of hysterical cries from paranoia?
      Calling people a troll for asking your for evidence is weak so try and be more original. 

      • Jcj1

        So what proof do you offer?? Haven’t seen any. ATT fan boy? Not sure which but I am deeply concerned about this issue, what gets me is people who have no facts posting crap and when people offer their opinion they get blasted. Well here is mine, ATT has big network but horrible customer service, T-Mobile has moderate network and excellent customer service. On paper it looks great, but for the employees it is a nightmare! 

        • The ATL Guy

          Yes I agree MANY people here claiming att will raise prices without any proof

        • ATL guy is ignorant

          nobody needs any proof to know this.  its like saying we need proof to know  that you are ignorant, we don’t we just know you are. hey if you are with t-mobile right now and you are happy that you are gonna be with at&trash soon good for you is your choice everybody is free to go with whatever carrier they want. JUST GET THE LUBE READY FOR YOU. 

        • ATL guy is ignorant

          nobody needs any proof to know this.  its like saying we need proof to know  that you are ignorant, we don’t we just know you are. hey if you are with t-mobile right now and you are happy that you are gonna be with at&trash soon good for you is your choice everybody is free to go with whatever carrier they want. JUST GET THE LUBE READY FOR YOU. 

        • gadgetguru

          When people like you with iphone on AT&T crappy network can tout for the best phone and carrier out there and haven’t  experienced other phones or carriers in recent years, your horn must be blowing real hard. Believe me that are plenty of people are you who are ignorant. 

        • gadgetguru

          When people like you with iphone on AT&T crappy network can tout for the best phone and carrier out there and haven’t  experienced other phones or carriers in recent years, your horn must be blowing real hard. Believe me that are plenty of people are you who are ignorant. 

      • jay_max

        How long have you worked for AT&T?

        • The ATL Guy

          Dude you should see the PHAT paychecks I get!!
          Sorry you are jealous because I have a SOLID GOLD IPHONE due to my undercover work here!!!

  • The ATL Guy

    SHHHHHHHHHHHOCKING to see ambulance chasers chasing ambulances. 
    YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAWN. 
    Slow news day?

    • Auser72

      You call them Ambulance Chasers, you need to a quick study of Corporate Morals and Ethics. You will find that they have none, they are a heartless fictitious entity, who’s only sensitivity is tied to the bottomline. That means if they can sell you food that causes cancer, cut corners in safety standards for bigger bottom line, they will. The language of Corporations is Money. If you aren’t speaking about anything that doesn’t negatively or positively affect their bottom line, you might as well be speaking a foreign language to them. Class action lawsuits are the way to level the playing field and have had exponentially more positive results for the individual consumer than negative.

      • The ATL Guy

        WOW I have been slapped by a bag of stupid

        • gadgetguru

          Yes..you are being slapped with a phrase called dirt bag..hahah..idiot. You are what I called the dogs who bark when they see elephant is running down their local street. 

    • Auser72

      You call them Ambulance Chasers, you need to a quick study of Corporate Morals and Ethics. You will find that they have none, they are a heartless fictitious entity, who’s only sensitivity is tied to the bottomline. That means if they can sell you food that causes cancer, cut corners in safety standards for bigger bottom line, they will. The language of Corporations is Money. If you aren’t speaking about anything that doesn’t negatively or positively affect their bottom line, you might as well be speaking a foreign language to them. Class action lawsuits are the way to level the playing field and have had exponentially more positive results for the individual consumer than negative.

    • jay_max

      You seem to be the type that will always hate lawyers until you need one.  Then you’ll change your tune real quick.

      • The ATL Guy

        I do?
        No I can’t stand ambulance chasers out for their 15 minutes of fame.

  • The ATL Guy

    SSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSHOCKING THAT AN ATTORNEY  after some bucks and publicity would claim that prices will go up. 
    I guess we shall see what kind of EVIDENCE he can produce to back his BS up. 

    • JBLmobileG1

      I have some evidence. Remember when the iphone first came out and the unlimited data was only $20? Then a year or so later they introduced the iphone 3G? Well unfortunately those who wanted the new iphone were FORCED to get the higher data package that was unlimited for $30. True you were paying for a faster data connection but what makes you think that once they get Tmobile in their hands they won’t raise the prices again because hey! The network is bigger and faster than before. They already rip people off with their current data plans. And I believe once the smart phone took off they knew it would require more bandwidth. I mean seriously 200mb is another $15 for their low end plan if you go over and the high end plan is $10 for each additional GB. And please don’t tell me data is priced high because it’s overly expensive. Look at Virgin Mobile… It’s 3G with unlimited data and 300 minutes for $25. Makes me wonder how they make it so cheap for prepaid. Well I guess it’s because you purchase the phone outright… But still.

      • Jonathon

        I remember when the iPhone launched that the data packages were $20, $30, and $40. They included 200 text messages, 1500, and unlimited. Then when the iPhone 3G came along it was $30 data plus $5, $15, and $20 text messaging. so just in one year a customer would spend $15 more, $15 more, and $10 more respectively. So as they got bigger they got more expensive. Then along came the tiered data option. $15 yes was a price drop of a whopping $5 but the customer got a whole lot less. No texting included and no more unlimited access. The customer with the 2 gig data plan saves a whopping $5 but again with no unlimited access and don’t forget the overage fees for both plans either. Just in the wonderful world of the iPhone at&t is giving less with less cost of course. however thanks to the overages they are making more at our expense. Yep Everyone wants proof that they raise prices at our expense and argue that we don’t provide any. Well here you go naysayers. A little evidence over the last 4 years in the wonderful world of the iPhone. 

      • The ATL Guy

        You do realize that tmobile has also added hefty fees for more data.

    • JBLmobileG1

      I have some evidence. Remember when the iphone first came out and the unlimited data was only $20? Then a year or so later they introduced the iphone 3G? Well unfortunately those who wanted the new iphone were FORCED to get the higher data package that was unlimited for $30. True you were paying for a faster data connection but what makes you think that once they get Tmobile in their hands they won’t raise the prices again because hey! The network is bigger and faster than before. They already rip people off with their current data plans. And I believe once the smart phone took off they knew it would require more bandwidth. I mean seriously 200mb is another $15 for their low end plan if you go over and the high end plan is $10 for each additional GB. And please don’t tell me data is priced high because it’s overly expensive. Look at Virgin Mobile… It’s 3G with unlimited data and 300 minutes for $25. Makes me wonder how they make it so cheap for prepaid. Well I guess it’s because you purchase the phone outright… But still.

  • The ATL Guy

    Man this is a GREAT GREAT THREAD!! 
    Its like all the paranoids have come together for one big giant paranoid filled ORGY!! 
    Keep up the good work and get those Tin Foil Hats pointed extra high!

  • http://cosmicbreeze.tumblr.com/ DtheArtist

    I don’t wanna hold my breath just yet, but my feet are inching closer towards Sprint or Virgin Mobile everytime I see AT&T pulling behind the scene schemes. 

  • GregP74

    I hate to be a downer, but here’s my thinking on this whole subject…

    Some of you guys need to look at the bigger picture here. The real question we should be asking is not “Is AT&T going to be allowed to buy T-Mobile?”, but “What’s going to happen to T-Mobile?”

    All of the attention is on possible rate increases, duopolies, and LTE rollout. People are ignoring the point that 
    Deutsche Telekom wants out of the US market. Things are not going to go on as-is if this deal falls through. This company has some serious financial issues — remember the articles last year about them filing for bankruptcy if a buyout does not take place?

    I actually think that this deal not going through would lead to a quicker demise. We’re kidding ourselves to think that the $6b they are to receive is going to be invested into T-Mobile. Speculation is that should the AT&T deal fall through, the network could be broken up and sold off piecemeal, so it would make no sense for DT to put that $6b back into it only to receive far less in return.

    As I see it, a buyout by AT&T would at least keep T-Mobile running as-is until it’s eventually swallowed up.

    • The ATL Guy

      You agree with att buying tmobile therefore you are a troll

      • GregP74

        I don’t much care for AT&T, but it comes down to being realistic.

        • The ATL Guy

          I am hoping for better coverage within my home with ATT

        • The ATL Guy

          I am hoping for better coverage within my home with ATT

        • The ATL Guy

          I am hoping for better coverage within my home with ATT

    • http://twitter.com/jeux999 Daner Doodle

      then google could buy it. ;-)

      • GregP74

        I reckon they’ve had a couple years to make an offer, but so far they haven’t.

    • Hamster

      Realistically, it would be better for competition if Sprint or some other carrier were to purchase T-Mobile. Yes, they would have to maintain two separate networks while LTE rolls out, but they have experience with that now, so I’d expect less issues. Sprint showed interest before, and if AT&T is rejected as a buying partner, probably will be again. T-Mo may not get as much money from Sprint in a sale, but it most definitely be better for consumers.

  • The ATL Guy

    .I heard that the JEEEEWS control the world’s banks and that their master is ATT!?!?
    I saw it on the Internet so it must be true!!!

    • Rottensteve

      “Internets” silly.

    • Rottensteve

      “Internets” silly.

      • The ATL Guy

        Oh ya that’s right!

      • The ATL Guy

        Oh ya that’s right!

  • Anonymous

    Oooooo, 11 whole customers!!!  LOL!

    Greedy lawyers and their frivolous lawsuits trying to pick pocket some deep pockets. 

  • http://twitter.com/phonecount StalkyTheFish

    Dish Network must have really learned their lesson after trying to merge with DirecTV a few years back and getting slammed down by the DOJ. Or maybe they just want the law applied fairly. So if anyone is qualified to say this shouldn’t go through, it’s them.

  • macman37

    It’s interesting, in a hilarious way, to hear and read about this from AT&T’s former partner before their U-Verse.

  • http://twitter.com/iGNetworks iGNetworks

    How about Dish Network team up with T-Mobile to sell its satellite service with an agreement Dish Network sells its cell phone service and broadband products? Bad or good idea?

  • http://twitter.com/iGNetworks iGNetworks

    How about Dish Network team up with T-Mobile to sell its satellite service with an agreement Dish Network sells its cell phone service and broadband products? Bad or good idea?