Will T-Mobile Customers Have To Replace Phones After Merger Completes?

We touched on this in the wrap-up of this mornings AT&T Press call but apparently it’s causing such a stir we’re going to try and clarify a few things:

With AT&T planning to use T-Mobile’s existing 1700 MHz spectrum for future LTE rollouts, AT&T execs are saying that T-Mobile customers will have to replace their current 3G/4G phones once the merger is completed. This will be a mandatory upgrade unless of course you want your phone to work on edge only.

The spectrum they use for third-generation services, or 3G, will be re-purposed for 4G, which is faster. That would leave current T-Mobile phones without 3G. They would need to be replaced with phones that use AT&T’s 3G frequencies. Ralph de la Vega, AT&T’s head of wireless and consumer services, said this will happen as part of the normal phone upgrade process. “There’s nothing for them to worry about … it will be done over time, in a way that’s good for customers and good for AT&T,” says Ralph de la Vega.

This is bad news, no way around it, however the only way to positively spin this is that any change won’t occur for some time. The merger is expected to close sometime within 12-18 months and that’s when the real work begins. It could take years before the time comes where T-Mobile customers will be in a situation where they will be forced to make the switch. It’s not going to happen overnight and it’s likely if you were to sign a 2 year contract tomorrow, you’d run it out before you’d have to give it up.

So what will AT&T do for customers who are forced to give up their equipment? AT&T has mentioned that the cost of issuing replacement phones was built into the cost of the deal itself. Will they be giving away free phones that are of equal or better value? There is no way to answer that question yet but AT&T would have a riot on their hands if they just expected all T-Mobile customers to up and pay for new equipment.

Should you buy a new T-Mobile phone right now? Absolutely. There is no reason to suspect you’d have to get rid of the phone in any time frame that wouldn’t’ allow you to get your money’s worth. Aside from that, this deal is going to drive the FCC and DOJ crazy and until it’s approved, we can’t act as though it’s already happened.

T-Mobile has tried to clear up that they are still two separate companies. T-Mobile is going about business as usual and so should you. If you want the HTC Pyramid, get it! The T-Mobile G2X? Get it and then use it in good health.

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  • http://twitter.com/SocalFrank1 Frank Alvarez

    Yeah, and when you “Upgrade” to the new AT&T phone I’m sure they will be “Upgrading” your rates and downgrading your data.

  • wtf??!?

    I currently have the original MT3G, and have been waiting for the G2X or Pyramid. Now, it seems buying one of these is a waste of $$ (resale value, etc). I certainly don’t want to be stuck on this laggy mt3g for much longer though- what are my options?

    Buy an expensive, mediocre unlocked phone? Switch carriers when my contract runs out in a few months? Or, just suck it up and do a T-mobile upgrade with a 2 year contract extension?

    Also, assuming the acquisition is complete in less than two years, will I be able to get out of my contract?

    • Johnfn

      Wait for the new Nokia phones to come out, they work on both companies systems.

  • http://twitter.com/admun Edmond Hui

    With AT&T “re-purpose” AWS spectrum for LTE, that’s mean there will be less spectrum for HSPA/+.

    With the combined user base on both AT&T and Tmo, I won’t be surprise the piss poor wireless experience all AT&T users are having now will be continued into both AT&T + Tmo users on HSPA/+ (and dont even mentioned you have to get a new phone…) The only way out at that point is to pay much more for LTE… is that what we want?

    To me, absolutely no. I just hope FCC shot it down, and I will urge all to write and complain to FCC just for that.

  • TM97

    All new 3G/4G deployment will cease, and adding T1′s and Ethernet circuits won’t be ordered because of this merger. They are already starting to let people go, two store managers were axed this morning. The main AT&T directive to T-mobile is stop spending anymore money.

    • trueforce

      that is BS. there is now way At&T can tell that to Tmo as it violates the antitrust laws. also i work here and for us its business as usual. there have been no layoffs so stop trolling

    • Cybersedan

      Agreed, the one thing people don’t need are Trolls creating more confusion than what already exists.

  • Menchi

    Will the upgrade to new phones be a free full upgrade? Or a partial upgrade? They better be paying for our new phones cause we didn’t sign up for this buyout

  • Minioninnc

    I will almost bet that the ones that are on a Even More Plus plan without contract they won’t give a new phone to. And also in turn if they do it will be a low end phone. I don’t see them giving away $500 phones without getting people to sign a contract.

  • MIKEEEEE

    the deal breaker for me will be wifi calling and ANDROID.

    if they reduce current levels of service, i will rent a po box in a sprint coverage area and go sprint.

    their marketing geniuses are a lot dumber than ours.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_WO4F4JZ4GRAXM5H34G6GNVXNKQ -=Pat Maweenie=-

      Android users already can’t do WiFi calling…well, I take that back, SOME can, but not all/most.

      • Climber42104bg

        I’m using wifi calling no problems at home and other locations, so no issues for me.

        • Bart

          I use wifi calling through the non-root sipdroid, pbx proxy, google voice arrangement. I highly suggest it as it works on my Vibrant and is free calling essentially, just have to use your google voice number. I’m more worried about losing tmobile customer service/customer loyalty departments. They’ve helped me a lot.

      • http://twitter.com/squiggleslash s slash

        Most new Android phones from T-Mobile have Wifi calling, as have any that have received Froyo firmware updates recently. Recent CyanogenMod builds also provide it for older phones.

        It’s more common than you might think :)

  • Anonymous

    It is absolutely ignorant to think that anyone who signs a two year contract tomorrow will be affected at all by the AT&T merger. The time frame for the POSSIBLE merger between the two mobile giants is 12-18 months. So let’s be extremely conservative and say 10 months. Do you think AT&T could possibly turn around and convert T-Mobile’s 1700 mhz frequency into LTE overnight? No. It is much more probable that we are, at minimum, two years away from anyone being forced into anything resembling a new phone. Let’s put that on pause for a minute though. How about the fact that it is 100% illegal to change someones contract terms without prior notice and prevent them from leaving the company. If you sign a contract tomorrow, and AT&T wants to change that contract in 3 months, then you can throw the deuce up and leave. No early termination fee, no armed guards. Just you and your pride.

    So please, for the sake of all humanity, don’t try to make people think that T-Mobile is any different today than it was yesterday. Sure, in a couple years, I’ll probably be shopping at Sprint or Verizon for a phone, but if you want the G2X, or the Pyramid, go get it. You truly have nothing to fear from these over-embelishing morons.

    • http://twitter.com/ITMedCEO Derrick Ford

      Shibboleth07…. Can you put this “guarantee” (as it sounds) in writing?

      Because if you can’t (and I know you can’t) You would have to be not an “over-embellishing” moron , but a “Plain Old” moron to buy a Tmobile 3g/4g phone now to possibly be forced to buy a new one a year or so from now!

      So, for those of us Tmobile users that are in the “Wait and See” mode with this whole AT&T/TMobile thing. All we can do is “Wait and See” with what we 3g phone we have now!

    • andrzejn

      Let me ask you this question over next 12-18 months will Sprint or Verizon work on updating their network, putting more towers, improving speeds? The answer is most likely. Will T-Mobile keep updating their network? I don’t think so. So if I have a choice and my contract was up tomorrow I would not pick T-Mobile for my next contract no matter if merger with AT&T will most likely will not be over by the time this new contract is up.

  • Ldominguez1986

    I just called tmo cc and they said that we would still continue to get 4g without having to trade in the phone, is that correct or am I not reading this correctly

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=205100175 Nathan Olonoff

      they’re wrong. once the merger happens AT&T will eventually shut off the 1700/2100 bands that T-Mobile uses.

      All 3G/4G phones for t-mobile will lose 3G/4G service when that happens.

      • Farhan

        Not exactly. AT&T need T-Mobiles spectrum so shutting it down is not an option. It might take several months after the acquisition goes through to eventually be used for AT&Ts LTE expansion instead of the HSPA+ that they’re being used for. That’s how T-Mobile phones will lose the 3g/4g service.

        • Anonymous

          Uhh ATT specifically said you would need a new 3G phone once the merger is complete. Their 3G/4G run off the same bands.

    • Steffanut

      Tmobile reps are giving the only information that they have for sure. Party line.

  • Anonymous

    Who said there’s a merger? This is gonna get block by FFC and DOJ.

    • Anonymous

      If that was the case then comcast wouldnt have been alloed to but nbc

      • Skozsert

        Maybe, but this is really a much larger issue. A duopoly in the field of communications is more damaging than cable/entertainment. And the national wireless market only has four companies left to begin with.

        • http://www.facebook.com/people/Bassam-El-azzeh/1057698400 Bassam El-azzeh

          It will pass. AT&T would not even attempt this deal if it wasn’t at least 90% sure it was going to make it. Plus if your worried about a GSM monopoly then your thinking too hard.Its a type of technology which in the end gives phone signal just like CDMA. Two different technologies that deliver the same service so I dont see a problem of how there will be a monopoly.

  • bl

    This article is very myopic and is only applicable to people who upgrade their phones frequently (which is a majority of the people who come to this site, but only a VERY tiny percentage of T-mobile customers).

    I typically use the same cellular telephone for 5-6 years. This will definitely impact people (and the environment as hundreds of millions of useless toxic devices may wind up in landfills) who try to get more than a year or 2 out of a device. Most people I know currently choose to use the same device for 3-7 years.

    • http://twitter.com/Emir_Mu Emir

      I believe that people who use their phones 5-6 years will not care that much about EDGE, 3G, 4G, LTE, whatever else may come by the time this merger is completed.

    • Dude

      Wow, your phone actually LASTS 5-6 years?! That’s impressive. Let’s see…I married my wife 6 years ago…I think I was on Nextel with some crappy Motorola phone back then. Can’t imagine that still working!

      • T-ina Mobile

        Heh… My mother has been using her old nokia (which used to be mine) and its still ticking after 7 years. Those old phones are durable little suckers.

  • LuvnMT4G

    I just bought a MyTouch 4g last month. I am NOT a happy camper! I guess I will start looking at Verizon’s family plans. My mom also has Tmo, so we will both be forced to upgrade our phones. Hmmm….If I would have known about this, I wouldn’t have purchased the MT4G. At least I am on the EM+ plan, so I can jump ship whenever!

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_NROHHGNFDNJW47HF42XADBZLJM crazythunder

      good luck with those vz family plans. i think they have…..wait for it……one! lol. at least they did last time i checked. last time i checked they only had like 5 or 6 plans alltogether.
      i stand corrected…just checked. they have a whopping total of 2.

      • jarjon76

        I checked Verizon’s family plans myself last night and was stunned how EXPENSIVE they are. Having been a very happy T-Mobile customer for 6 years, I haven’t had the need/desire to look at what the other carriers are charging. Needless to say, I was taken aback on the ridiculously high prices by Verizon and AT&T. Sprint’s wasn’t THAT bad, but I’m not a big Sprint fan. Not a good time to be a T-Mobile customer.

        • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_NROHHGNFDNJW47HF42XADBZLJM crazythunder

          i hear ya. i laughed at the very limited choices. we’ve been so accustomed to tmo’s plans that seeing vz’s was a shock. if att sucks big time, sprint is the best deal as far as pricing.

  • Rfgenerator

    Even if the buyout is denied (pretty unlikely) effective immediately T-Mobile will be stopping any further 3G rollout. I also suspect the phone manufacturers for T-Mobile will quit development on any new phones as T-Mobiles brand of 3g is effectively on a death sentence. They may even put the brakes on any manufacture of current models. The horror show pretty much starts today… Good luck finding a higher end Blackberry or Android phone in the next few months…

  • E Hugus

    What happens to the service when traveling abroad? I have heard too many horror stories about not having any service at all with At&T when they tell you that everything will be fine if I go to China or other countries in the world.

    • Dude

      For what it’s worth I had AT&T before T-Mobile (switched Jan ’10), and never had issues when traveling international with my AT&T phones (I had a Treo 650 and then 750 back then). I used those phones in France, Iceland, Argentina, and in Japan…and never had issues. I’ve also been very hapy with T-Mobile when overseas…most recently in France.

  • http://www.facebook.com/ElectroHop Jay Alford

    So basically your saying we might as well not upgrade to any phones coming out this year unless it’s using T-Mobiles 4G service, correct? I’m getting that Sidekick 4G regardless who merges with T-Mobile, S-Mobile, No-Mobile. Period.

    • http://twitter.com/ITMedCEO Derrick Ford

      No… the Tmobile 4G or 3G (as it works now) will NOT work within the AT&T Network – Tmobile’s 1700 frequency is going to be used for AT&T’s LTE. You’d have to have a LTE Chip in your phone – which doesn’t exist yet!!!

    • http://twitter.com/squiggleslash s slash

      OK guys, let’s go through it again.

      T-Mobile’s 4G and 3G systems are not separate, like their 2G and 3G systems are. T-Mobile’s 3G is something called W-CDMA, which supports the ability to run at different speeds. The “4G” thing T-Mobile promotes is simply an upgrade to their 3G system that’s extremely fast. The faster speeds only work with handsets that understand the technology, but, believe me, it’s still, fundamentally, the W-CDMA system with a lot of backward compatible enhancements.

      So when you hear “AT&T plans to turn off T-Mobile’s 3G system”, you can read that as “AT&T plans to turn off everything except T-Mobile’s 2G systems.”

      The utter contempt AT&T has for T-Mobile’s customers surprises me. I’m looking for a new carrier – if AT&T are successful, and take over T-Mobile, and haven’t announced a change of course, I’ll switch the next day. And frankly, TmoNew’s loyalty is understandable, but you’d have to be stark staring bonkers, or have more money than sense, to buy a $400 phone right now knowing that the phone will be only slightly more useful than a flip phone in two to three years from now. The only way I’m upgrading right now is if TMo gives me a G2 for free – and doesn’t require I switch to a contract plan.

  • Anonymous

    T Mobile will loose many customers.

    Europe’s “big wigs” have no clue how they effectively made T Mobile the worst choice.

    This is the real situation

    Smart phone Vbrant Captivate
    GSM: 850, 900, 1800, 1900 850, 900, 1800, 1900
    UMTS: 1700/2100, 2100 850, 1900, 2100
    HSDPA: Yes (HSDPA 7.2 Mbit/s) HSDPA 7.2 Mbit/s)
    HSUPA 5.76 Mbit/s

    As you can all see GSM bands will work and so will Edge.. But 3G wont. as 1700/2100 and 850/1900 are not the same frequency.

    Unless T Mob offers a phone that will guarantee continuity when they cease to exist. Anyone laying down 500 dollars for their service would be a fool.

    That was big shot on the foot.

    By the time ATT gets T Mobile.. it will have < half or less of its current subscribers. Its going to cost both ATT and T Mobile a great deal.

    • Kweef78

      You lost me at “loose”

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_NROHHGNFDNJW47HF42XADBZLJM crazythunder

        lol, ditto

    • JLo

      You are stupid, most tmobile customers are in contract and their contract won’t expire by the time At&t owns T-Mobile.

      Further the only people who know about this buyout are blog nerds. The masses won’t know about the merger until their local tmo store stays At&t on the outside.

      So to say by the time the deal is done tmo will have half or less of its current customers is stupid.

      Seriously, are you always this stupid in life or just online? Man if I had your stupid brain I’d cry every single day

      • Fortunate1

        Wow, you’re an @$$ hole! My mom even knows about this, because it’s been all over the news!

      • http://www.facebook.com/people/Bassam-El-azzeh/1057698400 Bassam El-azzeh

        Yeah its even on CNN even though the world is about to end.

        • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_NROHHGNFDNJW47HF42XADBZLJM crazythunder

          what is this c n n you speak of?

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_NROHHGNFDNJW47HF42XADBZLJM crazythunder

        there was just a segment on fox news about the merger. more people will know than you might think. word is getting out quick.

      • Anonymous

        Absolutely right. It has been on CNN, Fox “News” and a host of other outlets. Apparently You ARE a blog nerd and don’t actually have a clue what is happening outside your parents basement!

      • jarjon76

        Actually, this story has made its way to the mainstream media. Most major news outlets have picked up on this story. It’s a huge story because it affects so many people. And it’s a story out of left field–most thought Sprint would buy T-Mobile.

        • T-ina Mobile

          yeah… I’m watching the Tonight Show, and he just made jokes about it in his monologue… and earlier I saw it on my local news station.

    • JLo

      Also the masses aren’t running to pay etf fees just to run away from the merger, unless you are stupid go ahead and pay the 200 fee

      • Fortunate1

        You’re still an @$$ hole! I’m on the EM+, so I can walk at anytime. However, some dislike ATT enough to pay the ETF. Doesn’t make them stupid. Although, your posts make you look like an ignorant jackass!

        • Ldominguez1986

          I am one of the people willing to pay the etf. I am just waiting to see what happens for now, but if it turns out that everything will go to shit for sure, Here I come Sprint

        • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_E3SQQ432VXCSYB4OW67BOEESME Edwin

          good thing my contract is over and i have the ability to leave without the etf fee, though, i will stick through to see if i can grandfather in my plan. it would cost me an extra 50 on my bill for the same service on at&t so if sprint can lower down for t-mobile customers and have awesome phones…here i will go sprint

      • jarjon76

        Don’t be so sure. YOU may not be willing to pay an ETF to rid yourself of AT&T, but there will be more than a handful that will. Not everyone will bolt, but a lot will. One of the main reasons people are with T-Mobile is because they either had a horrible experience or heard a lot of bad things about AT&T.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_NROHHGNFDNJW47HF42XADBZLJM crazythunder

      if i see one more person misspell the word lose, i swear i’m going to smash the screen on my g1.

      • Lastmilefire

        HA … that too drives me crazy my friend. LOOSE = Lindsey Lohan
        Lose= Tmobile customers AND employees

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_MB2VO2ZDMMUWH57BENGVG5C2CM RobN

        I can’t believe that you still have the G1 it is time for an upgrade for someone reading a tech Blog I can’t believe what I am reading

        • jarjon76

          I still have the G1 and it works great. I haven’t had one problem with it and I’m a heavy data user. No need to thumb your nose at those of us who don’t feel the need to change our phones every 6 months.

        • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_NROHHGNFDNJW47HF42XADBZLJM crazythunder

          lol actually, the screen is already smashed. but it still works great,thanks to cyanogen.

    • http://www.volkswagen.de Quailallstar

      The Nokia C7-00 and N8 look mighty nice right about now…. :)

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_MB2VO2ZDMMUWH57BENGVG5C2CM RobN

      Actually this is incorrect the for the Samsung Vibrant it has 1700, 1900, and 2100 for UMTS there is tones of news on this at Engadget/Engadget Mobile , also Nokia phones have pentaband meaning it will work. Nokia phones with Symbian ^ 3 and presumably Windows Phone Nokias

  • Angry User

    If you want to bend over, bend over.If you want to get fucked,get fucked. All in good faith

  • Mmmmaxheadroom

    This just in, it looks like the only future proof phone for tmob fans is the nokia astound or c7 everywhere else. Unless of course tmob neuters the radio. The reason is this is loaded with pentaband radios as in tmob and att 3g, so that grandfathered plan price might get you down the road a little further. So what I am saying is if you read between the lines in the att press release and I quote “tmobile customers will be able to keep their plan until the buy a new phone or change their plan”. So what this means is if you can’t get a 3g signal with tmobile we will let you trade in your phone for a shiny new one from att. However you will lose that grandfathered plan as soon as you do go for that new att phone. Sure we’ll let you trade in that old my touch 4g. Just sign here. Muhahahahaha. And then you see you bill……. cry

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Bassam-El-azzeh/1057698400 Bassam El-azzeh

      How is that possible? If you like your plan buy an AT&T phone off contract and you get to keep your plan. Its as easy as that.

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_NROHHGNFDNJW47HF42XADBZLJM crazythunder

        that’s basically what i was saying. at least i thought i was lol. but that’s my plan. after the merger, buy att phone at full price. check out the service/data speeds etc. if i’m not happy, sell it on ebay and jump to sprint.

      • Hurlamania

        Your sim won’t work. You would have too get the phone unlocked and who knows what other issues wil arise. Att won’t want people on cheap plans and unlimited data.

        • Hnabi77

          That’s why you go to the Att shop, and ask for an att sim card after the merge. You will then be their customer and they won’t refuse you a sim card.

        • http://www.facebook.com/people/Bassam-El-azzeh/1057698400 Bassam El-azzeh

          Like Hnabi77 said! You just go in and request a new sim. You don’t even need to tell them you were a T-mobile costumer and they would give it to you as long as your in the system. Your not dealing with the devil here they are people too.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_NROHHGNFDNJW47HF42XADBZLJM crazythunder

      i’m on em+. so, if i but my phone at retail, we’d still be on our grandfathered plan as long as we buy retail-full price,correct? i’m just looking way ahead. verizons family plans are amazingly horrible. sprint has that stupid $10 data surcharge or whatever the hell you wanmna call it. but, they come out closer to tmo’s rate plan for me. and their 4g is probably better than att’s, or so i’m told by friends with sprint. so i’m either going to buy the g2x and see how att’s data is, and keep buying full price phones, or sign my life away with sprint.

  • Realistic

    Any idea what the eBay resell value of a Sidekick 4G will be when it can’t be used with 3G or 4G on AT&T?

  • Realistic

    Any idea what the eBay resell value of a Sidekick 4G will be when it can’t be used with 3G or 4G on AT&T?

    • jarjon76

      No one knows that, but I would guess it would be far less than what you could have gotten had T-Mobile stuck around.

  • http://twitter.com/ITMedCEO Derrick Ford

    Agreeing with justmeherenow…. The only problem with David’s artical as it refers to “Going ahead and getting a Pyramid…” or any present TMobile 3g/4g phone is just that… you will NOT be able to continue to use the Tmobile 3g/4g only Edge once the switch actually happens.

    All we can really do now without feeling any lost is buy a good “Feature Phone” where it uses only GSM. But, who wants that???

    • andrzejn

      On top of that starting today T-Mobile will put zero money into improving their H+ network so forget about speeds of 42 even 21 in most places

  • Fortunate1

    My mom has a 3G phone, but she ONLY talks on it, nothing else. It should still work right? I’m sure she’ll have to unlock it, but she just wants something to talk on. I’d hate to see her have to cough up money if she doesn’t have to.

    • http://twitter.com/ITMedCEO Derrick Ford

      Yes.. she will still be able to make voice calls. That’s the compatible GSM frequencies. Only the 3g or 4g frequencies for data – is what would be lost. Her phone for data will turn to EDGE Only!

      • Fortunate1

        Thank you. She will be more than happy to hear that!

  • http://www.facebook.com/joeyklatzko Joseph Klatzko

    It isn’t so cut and dry as rendering your phone obsolete. I’d imagine they would handle it one market at a time. I’m still buying the Pyramid when it comes out. By the time this thing is through I will upgrade to a quad core LTE Nexus 3D.

    I’m just nervous for the next year or two of Android phones on T-Mobile. I upgrade around every six months. I doubt OEMs will make much for them until this is through unless they make pentaband phones.

    I was excited for 42Mbps HSPA+ but I guess that won’t happen

  • Manusferrera

    I know tmobile 4g phones won’t work on AT&T network but will regular 3G phone be ok. I’m not sure but don’t tmobile phones already have the bands for AT&T 3G.

    • http://twitter.com/ITMedCEO Derrick Ford

      No you will NOT have 3g or 4g on AT&T. You will only have EDGE with a TMobile 3g or 4g phone and AT&T’s network!

    • remister

      If 3G did work, iPhone customer on T-Mobile will be also be able to use 3G. Sadly they are only on EDGE!

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_MB2VO2ZDMMUWH57BENGVG5C2CM RobN

      T-Mobile Samsung Vibrant has AT&T 3G(1900) and if you are a Nokia Symbian/Windows Phone fan (maybe Meego) you should be fine (Nokia phones have pentaband 3G meaning T-Mobile and AT&T

  • Aaron_aarsm

    Help T-mobile join my group to show T-mobile how much we care!(T-mobile should not join AT&T!)http://www.facebook.com/home.php?sk=group_119178814824847

  • Anonymous

    TMO is about to release the Nokia C7 which is pentaband. This means it will work on ATT 3g correct? Might be a solution. Very professional build.

  • kojikabuto

    Well, “nothing to worry about” is the same as saying you will be force to upgrade and the cost is for the t-mobile customers to bear. Don’t trust execs all they care about is making themselves rich and sending our jobs everywhere but here.

  • phonegeek

    If this falls through ill see what at&t is talking but 9/10 I’m leaving if the rates go up my only thing is verizion or sprint? Sprint will have the evo 3d and verzion the droid 3….only time can tell

  • Jp2dj1

    and…………….. at&t is starting to kill us……………………..

  • Hurlamania

    That’s a nice way of you will be forced to get on a att rate plan if you want anything other than edge.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Don-Roly/100001562641705 Don Roly

    Can’t Believe T-Mobile . Now i wonder what this website is going to be called At@tNews?

  • AdrianG2

    Maybe this whole situation is a sign that the world really is going to end. 12 to 18 months from now will bring us to around October of 2012.. We’re being bought out by the network Carly always bashes. Hmmm. They might as well approve it on 12-21-12.

  • g2 user

    just got the g2 in october if i have to give it up they better give me something of comparable value or they will have class action lawsuit i know a lot of lawyers ha

    • remister

      Cant we get people to sign petitions now?

    • yyevo

      And the lawyers will get all the money, while the customers get a $20 discount.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_MB2VO2ZDMMUWH57BENGVG5C2CM RobN

      Their is the HTC Desire z (import) and old Nexus One (AT&T model) that you could buy one E-bay have fun with the class action lawsuit

  • Bruce

    “Should you buy a new T-Mobile phone right now? Absolutely.”

    I disagree. You will regret it when AT&T shuts down the 3G on your phone. It will happen. TMo news does not know when it will happen and neither do I.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_MB2VO2ZDMMUWH57BENGVG5C2CM RobN

      Buy a phone new phone right now for two rezones, resene number one if you do buy a new phone chances are that AT&T is going to give you some incentive to buy a new phone at a cheeper price most likely. The second resene the Samsung Vibrant has AT&T 3G (1900 band) and if you are into Nokia right now all the Symbian ^ 3 phone will work on both AT&T and T-Mobile also the trends show that Nokia is going to use pentaband 3G from now on meaning Nokia Windows Phone devices also will work on AT&T/T-Mobile Nokia said their goal for their first windows phone is going to be before the end of the year. Also don’t forget about one year contracts and Even more plus

      • 4G_or_not_4G

        how about the G2X, that is an international phone, may have both bands

  • http://twitter.com/squiggleslash s slash

    Verizon is a merger of several baby-bell mobile operators and PCS operators. They also recently bought Alltel.

    Recent tests have shown they’re not faster than AT&T, although the LTE roll-out might change that, temporarily. And the voice quality on Verizon is absolutely terrible, which makes me wonder why they’re so popular.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_MB2VO2ZDMMUWH57BENGVG5C2CM RobN

      Verizon is so popular because when people look at that map and see all red their I need this reliability because for sure they travel all across the US also these people are teches and text and make phone calls, the thing I don’t understand is I all ways here people on Verizon complain about there phones refusing to text and can’t connect and has only one or two bars and they always move closer to the windows to get service, also most regulare people think that if they pay more for service then it most be better.

      • 4G_or_not_4G

        funny how a buddy always talks trash about T-Mobile’s network because it was so small…However when we compared the places he goes…Miami/NY/Washington… that is it, and T-Mobile is strong in all of those places. I personally do not care where T-Mobile is not as neither am I. I only care about where I am and that T-Mobile is at those locations. Then as usual, I would challenge him to see whose network is faster and naturally I always win!

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_MB2VO2ZDMMUWH57BENGVG5C2CM RobN

    To note if the phone you are getting has AT&T bands you are good the Samsung Vibrant has the 1900 and it works on some place in the US on AT&T also note that the Nokia phone have pentaband if you don’t mide the Symbian OS than you would be absolutely fine for when the transition goes threw. My question is for LTE is AT&T/T-Mobile going to use 700 and 1700(AWS)MHz for their LTE network because that is what I assume because I know AT&T has 700MHZ and 700MHz being lower frequency works better in doors also Verizon uses 700MHz and that means their devices will be compatible with AT&T/T-Mobile devices. And I just remembered Nokia making Windows Phone devices means they should be hot sellers because they would have pentaband 3G and sweet.

    • 4G_or_not_4G

      I was just about to post that they need to start selling dual band phones, and this problem will go away…can’t be that expensive!

  • Robert Henderson

    In other words, YES all of you current T-Mobile customers, we are AT&T and we intend to force you to take the AT&T name so we can screw you like we do our current customers!

  • Anonymous

    tmobil just posted the merger on the website

    http://www.t-mobile.com/

    • Fortunate1
    • Anonymous

      “If the acquisition closes, will I still be able to use my T-Mobile USA phone?

      Yes. Your T-Mobile USA device will operate the same in the future as it does today.”

      ATT has already confirmed this isn’t totally true. No 3G/4G after the merger.

      • Anonymous

        RTFA (Read the f***ing article)

        The spectrum they use for third-generation services, or 3G, will be re-purposed for 4G, which is faster. That would leave current T-Mobile phones without 3G. They would need to be replaced with phones that use AT&T’s 3G frequencies. Ralph de la Vega, AT&T’s head of wireless and consumer services, said this will happen as part of the normal phone upgrade process. “There’s nothing for them to worry about … it will be done over time, in a way that’s good for customers and good for AT&T,” says Ralph de la Vega.

        The last sentence says that it will take some time for this to happen. I don’t like what is happening but i don’t know why is everyone so sensational and just jumping to irrational conclusions?

  • Jay

    okay so eventually I’ll need a phone for at@t network, my main concern is my even more plus plan my bill is 60 bucks, I just pay full price for my mytouch 4g and save a lot in the long run as long as I don’t don’t use discounts my bill stays nice and low, so will I still have this option?

    I don’t think t-mobile is worth more than 60 a month. 500 minutes, free t-mobile to t-mobile, unlimited text and data

    houston, texas

  • TNipps

    “There’s nothing for them to worry about … it will be done over time, in a way that’s good for customers and good for AT&T,”

    I’ve heard something like this somewhere before…. Oh YES! I remember now… “”If you like your health care plan, you will be able to keep your health care plan.”

    it was BS then…. and it’s BS now.

    • Anonymous

      Oh were you forced out of your healthcare plan?

      • TNipps

        Yes as a matter of fact I was.

        • Anonymous

          Gov job?

        • TNipps

          Nope – private sector.

  • Mrand07

    Please Read and comment. yourworld2day.blogspot.com

  • Surge234234

    If I am on simple mobile with my iphone which is a part of tmobile and can’t get 3G because of diff bands, does this mean I should be seeing some 3G on my non AT&T iPhone soon???

    • Anonymous

      Not unless you switch carriers. Simple mobile is pretty much done for if they don’t change bands after this merger.

  • Ilyas_k15

    this just gets worse and worse. i really hope this deal doesn’t go through. not only would we have to give up our devices, but at&t will obviously mess up the plan costs. I really enjoy my myfaves family plan, and a $30 a month data service. i don’t want to give that up, considering that i’m satisfied with the service in my area. deutsche telecom is a douchebag for doing this

  • Hecg55

    I hate this I hate this I hate this! I wanted to get the optimus 2x or the pyramid but I seriously think this is bs! And now it’s pointless to me that I do. The fcc should stomp this! soon there will only be two major carriers and prices will be ridiculous. I really hope this doesn’t pass!

  • jj

    What happens if we opt out of our plans when the merger is complete? If we go into contract now, and we want to opt out because we don’t want to go to ATT, would they compensate us for having to buy a new phone with a contract elsewhere? If not, there’s no point in buying a phone right now for there is a risk for the merger to happen earlier than our contracts expiring, no?

  • Anonymous

    Even if this doesn’t go through this will still hurt Tmobile and their HQ still wants to sell the US branch obviously. Alot of potential buyers will avoid getting any service until they see how this plays out. We are on a sinking ship I guess it’s best to bail while we are ahead. I hate this.

    • Derrickps3

      gas is high, we are in recession, bills………….and now i find out att has defeated tmo by buying them out??? LIFE IS GREAT……lol

  • Anonymous

    You know, now that I think about this…..I wonder to myself why Michael Moore hasn’t thought of doing another one of those “Roger and Me” movies about AT&T and how utterly anti-customer they are.

    If I had the $$, hell, I’d even through some sheckels into the mix to make a documentary about it. Getting to bottom of who the REAL Ralph De La Vega is, would probably be a VERY interesting movie indeed. I’d go see it in the theaters.

  • matt

    if the merger is approved and att suspends simple mobile services, i will no longer pay for cell phone services anymore, anything over $60 for unlimited talk, text and web is just not worth it. i dont plan on switching back to metro, verizon or using any companies under sprint. i personally like gsm and using sim cards to switch back and forth phones i’ve purchased here in the us and internationally. but i guess we’ll just have to wait and see the outcome.

  • Galaxylover

    I don’t understand. Am I the only one concerned about SPEED? I’m not a rich man by any stretch of the imagination, but I am far less worried about price of plans going up a few dollars than I am about ATT having horrible data speed. That’s why I’m with T-Mobile. It’s the fastest network, and ATT is the slowest. That’s the nightmare for me.

  • Bigger Mac

    So I have a question.. what happens if I switch over to AT&T before the merger is finalized, would I still have to pay the early contract termination fee? I really want the LG Thrill (optimus 3D) when it comes out!