Will T-Mobile Customers Have To Replace Phones After Merger Completes?

We touched on this in the wrap-up of this mornings AT&T Press call but apparently it’s causing such a stir we’re going to try and clarify a few things:

With AT&T planning to use T-Mobile’s existing 1700 MHz spectrum for future LTE rollouts, AT&T execs are saying that T-Mobile customers will have to replace their current 3G/4G phones once the merger is completed. This will be a mandatory upgrade unless of course you want your phone to work on edge only.

The spectrum they use for third-generation services, or 3G, will be re-purposed for 4G, which is faster. That would leave current T-Mobile phones without 3G. They would need to be replaced with phones that use AT&T’s 3G frequencies. Ralph de la Vega, AT&T’s head of wireless and consumer services, said this will happen as part of the normal phone upgrade process. “There’s nothing for them to worry about … it will be done over time, in a way that’s good for customers and good for AT&T,” says Ralph de la Vega.

This is bad news, no way around it, however the only way to positively spin this is that any change won’t occur for some time. The merger is expected to close sometime within 12-18 months and that’s when the real work begins. It could take years before the time comes where T-Mobile customers will be in a situation where they will be forced to make the switch. It’s not going to happen overnight and it’s likely if you were to sign a 2 year contract tomorrow, you’d run it out before you’d have to give it up.

So what will AT&T do for customers who are forced to give up their equipment? AT&T has mentioned that the cost of issuing replacement phones was built into the cost of the deal itself. Will they be giving away free phones that are of equal or better value? There is no way to answer that question yet but AT&T would have a riot on their hands if they just expected all T-Mobile customers to up and pay for new equipment.

Should you buy a new T-Mobile phone right now? Absolutely. There is no reason to suspect you’d have to get rid of the phone in any time frame that wouldn’t’ allow you to get your money’s worth. Aside from that, this deal is going to drive the FCC and DOJ crazy and until it’s approved, we can’t act as though it’s already happened.

T-Mobile has tried to clear up that they are still two separate companies. T-Mobile is going about business as usual and so should you. If you want the HTC Pyramid, get it! The T-Mobile G2X? Get it and then use it in good health.

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  • Anonymous

    This sucks no matter how you try to spin it.

    • sino8r

      Exactly, we all knew in some areas that tmobile 2G roamed off at&t’s towers so we can know always use 2G with our old phones. Doesn’t mean we should buy new phones and pretend all is well. I know this hurt tmobile employee’s sales but they should prepare for the worst. I was a cell tech for many years and was at Nextel when Sprint bought us. Total chaos for everyone including employees and customers! If you’re in retail, prepare to get laid off if your store is near an at&t location. I would say that your location would be saved if your sales were great but with this news… very few people will be buying new service or upgrading. Sucks, I know… but as a customer in a 3G (alleged 4G lol!) area it would be foolish to upgrade when your phone will go 2G in a year and a half.

  • TL;DR- AT&T will eventually give you a nice Motorolla RAZR for all your troubles, oh, and require a data plan that costs more than anything you have now.

    • Anonymous

      yay? oh and btw david title needs to be revised. “Will T-Mobile Customers ‘WILL’ Have To Replace Phones After Merger Completes?”

    • While you get less for the same price with an AT&T data plan, at least they have an equivalent (for 95% of users) plan for the same price. The part I’m most annoyed with is paying basically 50% more for voice and text, which is absurd.

  • ehhh, if you ask me, i think this only makes other T-mobile subscribers NOT want to stay in the At-Mos (this is what I’m calling them from this point on xD). It is HIGHLY possible that At&t will be the main control of this soon new company, and if so, the prices for all t-mobile customers will slowly inflate, due to Att’s influence…
    But hey I could be wrong.

    • sino8r

      They were bought by at&t outright…. this isn’t a merger

    • no, i think you are right. ATT only wants our spectrum and towers, thats it. They will slow get rid of everything tmo related.

  • http://droidchat.blogspot.com/2009/09/blog-post.html help the fight if it does not get approved it wont happen

  • double post

  • Rudy

    I’m going to be pissed off, if i buy a htc pyramid and then only get edge speeds a year from now.

    At&t had either give a free phone that is equal or let me out of my contract without a fee.

  • Anonymous

    good bye t mo :.(

  • thatguy

    You can try to convince us all you want, but we’re already spooked.

    My folks were planning to switch to T-Mo, but after hearing the news on TV yesterday, they have changed their minds. So two potential customers not switching now.

    And I don’t think, if this deal gets through, that AT&T will just give T-Mo customers free replacements. They’ll put some strings on it, like leave your current plan and switch to one of ours.

    • Aerofanbig

      it’ll be entry level android phones, or mid-upper level REFURBISHED phones…..for free when you sign a 2 year contract and that’ll probably be about the same time their prices start sky rocketing

      • Jutecat

        are you kidding me, att only has entry level android phones! they have one year to add some phones that dont suck

        • Well all android phones that would have been destined for T-Mobile will now be coming out on AT&T.

      • Anonymous

        YES !!! Precisely….prices for handset are going to go back up to the $399-$499 range like when the ATT Tilt and Tilt 2 were out. Or the Touch Pro2 just a couple of years ago which was $399. I guess people have forgotten how Android truly was the great LEVELER….sure you could get an iPhone for $199, but that was because Apple had the hook of the iTunes store surgically implanted on your hip, but it was Android that really made handset prices drop to the current levels they’ve reached.

        Do you really think a phone with the features of the EVO could’ve received the response it did if it weren’t for the fact that it could be marketed at the price point that practically anyone could afford ? I’ve said it before…there are 3 tiers to phone price vs impulse purchase. In retail there’s the widely known principle of impulse purchase, and it very much applies to phones as well.

        Entry Level Phone – Free to $29 ( a person will think to themselves, it’s practically nothing. Sure it doesn’t have all the bells and whistles, but at least I’m in the game )

        Mid-range phone – $79 to $99 ( a person thinks to themselves, Well it’s not as cheapy as the free phone. Yeah it doesn’t have all the features of the high-end phone, but I can do a lot of things I couldn’t with the free one. [Or at least that’s the logic marketers are trying to target] ).

        High-End Phone – $199 [to $249, but it better be COMPELLING]. ( A person thinks to themselves, “Yes, I’ve got THE phone to have. It does as much, if not more than I need or use now, but I can use the other features whenever I need or want to. [ Same logic marketers use to market luxury cars, people. Just different price scales. I didn’t work my way selling computers to businesses to work my way through college for nothing.] )

        If this sales goes through, the days of that above being valid……are DONE.

        You’ll pay through the nose for a handset, just like you did 4-5 years ago. Where an ATT Tilt cost $349. SUBSIDIZED….give me a break.

  • The dell streak 7, dell mini 10, and the newer webconnect data cards support at&t’s current 3g/hspa+ bands.

  • Anonymous

    The problem for T-Mobile is that no matter how much they say this, we the consumers know it is better not to jump on board a sinking ship. If T-Mobile wanted to seal its demise, this was the perfect way to do so. And I’m not convinced they even care to be honest…AT&T simply wants spectrum and DT wants out of the US market.

  • Anonymous

    Good write up. I hope this is made loud and clear everywhere so everyone has the SAME understanding.

    Although getting your moneys worth out of a $200 phone is definitely a matter of opinion.

    • sino8r

      I guess it depends on how often you buy phones… if your nuts like most of us phone geeks… its not too bad but the resale of your device would be nothing or you could just have a phone museum like me lol!

      • Anonymous

        So what you’re saying is that the guy who bought a TMobile MyTouch 2 years ago, shouldn’t give a rats arse about this ? Let’s see, the guy buys a phone, hangs on to his contract, takes care of his phone, so he shouldn’t complain just because he took care of his stuff ? C’mon…get real.

        • Anonymous

          Whats with the attack? You just described the OTHER kind of person that sino8r was speaking of (without actually describing the 2 year old MyTouch user). You just said it angrily.

        • sino8r

          It’s okay… everybody is a bit freaked out and angry right now. Lots of stuff will be said that sounds rash in the heat of battle, so to speak :)

        • Anonymous

          this is true.

        • Anonymous

          Seriously, I appreciate the understanding, and I’m sorry if I offended you sino8r, it wasn’t my intention, really. sino8r is absolutely right, everyone’s a bit frayed about this right now.

          As long as I’ve been with TMo nee Voicestream nee Omnipoint ( I actually signed up for their service away from ATT WS within 3 months of them starting service down here in SoFla. I took a chance because I knew about GSM and how it was deployed across Europe and gave improved call quality ) it really upsets me.

          Just to give you an idea of how long I’ve been a mobile data guy. I was able to configure the SMSC on my Nokia 6910 in July 1999 and surprised my friends who’d signed up with Omnipoint by sending them SMS’s on their phones. And to think….Omnipoint didn’t even CHARGE for SMS’s back then…HA ! Of course I wasn’t sending hundreds of msg’s…but the capability was there. I owned a Windows Pocket PC Phone 2002 from HTC ( it’s STILL packed away in my garage in it’s leather holster ! along with it’s charger ) along with an 32Mb SD card. Yes…32Mb. I enjoyed my GPRS. It wasn’t until I purchased an XDA IIs ( HTC Blue Angel to you XDA-Developer folks ) from O2 on Ebay, that I moved up to Windows Mobile…..only to flash to WM5…then WM6. Finally I was rocking a little more than 56Kbps on EDGE. So all this talk about buying unlocked Mobile phones and bringing them over…..that was me. I even used an HTC Hermes on TMo because I couldn’t bring myself to use the underpowered “Wing” or “Dash”.

          I kept saying….someday…..someday…TMo will have a phone I want to buy from THEM…..then came the G1….and even without 3G in SoFla rolled out yet…I took the plunge…..paid more so I wouldn’t have a contract, believing that TMo would come through…they’d always taken care of me, even though I had brought “out of network” phones to the table, they always helped out…..weird stuff happening with my MMS service…no problem, Sir, let’s take care of it.

          When the Nexus One came out I was intrigued, but I just couldn’t bring myself to go without a keyboard. And the price Google was charging for current customers ($279 with a 500 minute plan? Are you kidding me ? I’m married now, I couldn’t afford $500+ phones unlocked phone just to keep my 3000 minute+Nights/Weekends for $49.99 plan). So I waited until I found one used on Craigslist, and haven’t looked back….I’m STILL on the $49.99 loyalty plan….no contract. Do you think AT&T is going to be this nice to me ? Get REAL !

          Now, hopefully, folks will have some sense about why I might just be a little…teency weency bit incensed at TMobile’s actions.

        • sino8r

          Not saying that… I’m talking about us super geeks who buy a new superphone every six months or less. The average customer replaces their device every two years.

      • Anonymous

        My Touch Pro 2 lasted 11 months and then turned into a brick. Turned around and bought a $500 Vibrant Cash Money on day one and I could donate the phone right now and buy a new one for all I care.

        I think I could actually get 2 years out of the Galaxy S2 though.

  • So AT&T will offer you a new phone, but then you have to sign a new contract and play (and pay) on their terms…that’s definitely going to suck.

    • No you do not have to sign a new contract to get the free phone.

      • Jutecat

        since when do you NOT sign a contract to get a free phone?

        However i have signed a bagillion contracts that are grandfathered plans, so hopefully they will allow us to sign a contract to keep our old plan and let us upgrade the device. Usually most companies will let you do that because as long as there is a contract they know they will get money from us.

        • Becuase you have to get a new phone. It is mandatory. AT&T took over Alltel in my area and everyone had to get a new phone. They didn’t pay for a new phone AT&T had choices of free phones for the Alltel users. You did not have to sign a contract.

        • Anonymous

          did the phones suck? Could u get a new smartphone?

        • They were the Aria, Blackberry 3G, I think some got the choice of the Captivate. They had some okay devices IG because Alltel had horrible phones. For Smartphone users you had smart phone choices.

        • Anonymous

          Cool. That’s good to know.

  • Quailallstar

    Damn the Nokia N8 is looking real nice right about now. This sucker will work on the current T-Mobile 3G and the future ATT-T-Mobile 3G ;)

  • Damn the Nokia N8 is looking real nice right about now. This sucker will work on the current T-Mobile 3G and the future ATT-T-Mobile 3G ;)

  • MSalam11

    So if we do not upgrade, can we still keep our grandfathered plan and just buy unlocked 3G phones w at&t bands and still use it?

    • sino8r

      That’s not a bad idea… expensive, but not bad really.

      • Not expensive if you get an Even More Plus Plan. You end up saving more money.

        • sino8r

          That’s true… good call!

    • Anonymous

      I was thinking the same thing. And if you want one cheap and want to keep your current contract, upgrade to the C7 TMO is selling. I haven’t used Symbian and not sure if Gmail works fluidly with it.

    • Yes—-kinda. ATT’s 3G is on diff band than T-mo’s. You can use EDGE on ATT’s with T-mo’s phones. If you have the Nexus 1 it has att and tmo bands for 3G not 4G. Hope this helps. Keep in mind that the merger may never get approval. Hope you phone last at least a year before final decisions.

  • Anonymous

    What if we break our phones on purpose having the best buy black tie warranty and say they accidentally dropped in the pool???

    Would best buy approve of Letting us choose a new device from at&t plus at&t without knowing let us get a device of equal value also??

    • You would have to use the device on Edge until 18 months when AT&T transitions everyone over.

  • Anonymous

    It’s like throwing an anchor on a drowning man. I have a Nexus One unlocked phone that I love. There is no way AT&T can give me back that device. I bought the unlocked phone for that reason, it’s unlocked and I can not tell you how much satisfaction this phone has been. I was going to buy the Pyramid and the new LG device coming out but there is no way I will waste my money. I have been the biggest supporter of T-Mobile but I am pissed off. There is no way I would buy a high end expensive phone right now from T-Mobile. Never been a fan of AT&T so what is there to do but Verizon, man I am pissed off.

    • I know what you mean. I bought the N1 unlocked too, to have the freedom of choice. Now its being takened away. I hate ATT, and now Im hating on TMobile. I so love my nexus and its killing me I might have to go to a phone thats not as good just to get 3G

      • Rosario Lopez

        But by the time they actually force you to change phones, which seems like it could be up to a 2yrs from now. You have no idea what types of phones will be out, for all you know, they could release 2 more Nexus Phones by then with one being on AT&T.

        • Classicko

          Are you hot, Ms. Rosario? Somehow, I have this image of you looking like Rosario Dawnson. :)

    • Well that really depends on whether Nexus has the ATT 3g frequency. If it’s an unlocked phone (which I swore it was universal), then it may not matter for you and you can still use your phone. Look it up.

  • DrkMith

    What about those of us who still have T-Mobile@Home equipment and lines?

    • Ditto on that question.

    • T-Mobile@Home is dead even by T-Mobile standards. I expect @Home and UMA to both be scrapped by the time this deal goes through.

  • Anonymous

    “So what will AT&T do for customers who are forced to give up their equipment? AT&T has mentioned that the cost of issuing replacement phones was built into the cost of the deal itself.” – Just as I predicted they would. (http://bit.ly/fwPKRi)

    “Will they be giving away free phones that are of equal or better value? There is no way to answer that question yet but AT&T would have a riot on their hands if they just expected all T-Mobile customers to up and pay for new equipment.” – You think they don’t have a riot brewing already on their hands ? What do you think that posts on Engadget generally run to 3K plus comments in less than 12 hours on average ? Give me a break. Of course they already have a riot brewing on their hands.

    ” “There’s nothing for them to worry about … it will be done over time, in a way that’s good for customers and good for AT&T,” says Ralph de la Vega.” – Are you kidding me ? This from a guy where he and his crew have lied their collective tuchus’ (tuchii ?) off…

    citation 1- http://bit.ly/fPRR89.
    citation 2- http://bit.ly/eaaOdG
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    citation 4- http://bit.ly/hJoEz8
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    citation 7- http://bit.ly/eA10rF

    C’mon, how can any sane person really invest any significant amount of money on ANY phone on TMobile now with this on the way. NO ONE will really want to buy an LG Slate. NO ONE will really want to buy an LG G2x. NO ONE will really want to buy a Pyramid. They might as well GIVE away these phones, because no one in their right mind will tie themselves to a contract, spending any serious amount of money. And if you don’t think $200 isn’t serious money for any American household these days, I have some semi-swampy land in southern Florida to sell you for very little money…all you have to do is deal with the pesky local crocodilian population.

    I’m having trouble reconciling your “come what may” attitude towards this. I simply can’t accept that for as long as you’ve been at this ( going on 8 years now ), that you’re that comfortable with the prospect that this site which you yourself have sweated over is now effectively on a countdown timer.

  • This is a deal:
    I am sure unlocked 3G/HSPA devices will help you save a day. Purchase it and keep your grandfathered plans/services intact until this entity becomes another ATTWS.

  • Tfan

    It makes sense technically, but what a way to Piss Off us tight wad T-Mobile customers. I’d say depending on how good AT&T is at giving existing T-Mobile users new phones and what those rates will be whether they stay #1. Otherwise you will see a mass exodus and their subscribers will dwindle just like they have in the past when Verizon passed them before.

  • Jutecat

    Thankfully by the time this BS goes through I will be eligible for upgrade however i JUST added my bf to my plan a week ago with a G2 (such a good phone!) and it really pisses me off that they think they can just replace it. ATT had better step up their craptacular android offerings than and give us all a REALLY good deal to keep all the tmob people from jumping ship. So far this is the most upsetting thing i have heard about the merger.

  • I don’t know about you, but I buy a new phone with the intention of using it, keeping it in good condition, and then re-selling at a later date to put $$ towards a new purchase. Even if I get the Pyramid when it launches and use it for 1-2 years and then upgrade when the change happens, I won’t be able to sell the Pyramid because it will be as useful as a paper weight. Seriously, anyone who purchases a new T-Mobile device in the wake of this news is just throwing their $$ away

    • Anonymous

      Yeah starting to rethink my Optimus G2x purchase.

      • Honestly, it’s like buying a new car and being told “oh, btw, in 18-24 months the car is going to stop running and you won’t be able to re-sell it in the US”. Don’t try feeding me BS and tell me it’s really chocolate covered raisins. I ain’t buyin it….

    • Rage

      WOW i didnt look at it that way! well you just freaked me out LOL i was thinking about getting a new phone this summer but the way you just said that was GREAT! well looks like im gonna spend some time comparing prices between the big 3 then go from there.

    • jarjon76

      Yes, the resale value of any t-moblie phone you have or might buy in the future is going to be next to nothing once the merger kicks in. That’s why I’m VERY iffy on upgrading in November. OK I can use, say the myt4g, for 6-12 months then AT&T is going to make me get one of their phones? That’s not a commitment I’m willing to make.

      Even if they offer my a phone of equal value for free, who’s to say I’ll like that phone, or more importantly, AT&T’s coverage and customer service?

  • Anonymous

    Although your contract is likely to expire for the deal is complete, this is certainly a deterrent in buying a new T-mobile device at this point. Some people don’t replace their phones every chance they get to upgrade, and prefer to use them till they have to be replaced. For buyers like this, a phone purchase is viewed as a large investment.

    http://www.transdgtl.com

    • Aerofanbig

      thats me! I’m still rocking a G1 from the very first pre-order release of the phone. I can only make calls on speaker phone now lol and its really starting to become lagy but hey….still works for the moment enough to get by until Sprint announces a date for the Nexus S 4G

    • jarjon76

      This is me. I still use the G1, and it still works like it’s brand new. I’m up for an upgrade in November, but am going to hold off upgrading until we find out what the future of AT&T-Mobile holds. I don’t want to commit to another 2 years, only to be told that I can’t use my phone and have to get a new one halfway through my contract. What am I going to do with the phone I can no longer use? I can’t sell it, because it’s basically a paperweight.

      I really like the myt4g and g2, but again if I can’t use them once this merger kicks in why bother getting one of them? I was also wanting a g-slate, but now that’s on hold. There are too many uncertainties at this point to consider invest time/money into this company. I have a “wait and see” attitude until I get further information.

  • Anonymous

    It will be interesting to see what other changes are in store for T-Mo customers. Will T-Mo adopt AT&T’s data tiering and caps? What incentives will T-Mo customers have to stay with T-Mo? Will T-Mo’s selection of high-end smartphones improve? For T-Mo not to get the iPhone is plain stupid. Before this annoucement I was thinking of jumping over to Virgin Mobile.

    • Tabby

      Cingular.

  • Socalteknique

    This is good news for me because ATT’s uses the same bands as many international telcos which mean many compatible international handsets!

  • Catsigh

    wow it just keeps getting worse and worse.

  • I hope you all will leave this poor guy alone (david) even though he keeps clarifying this. I think he’s still going above n beyond by STILL twittering n responding to this OVER & OVER again… Btw thanks for all your infirmation on this merger davud, you’ve been really helpful……

  • Well, I have a Nexus S and a Nexus 1, so this leaves me just about dead in the water. AT&T has neither to offer to me for a replacement. Not saying that they will not get the Nexus S, but I would be stuck on edge with either right now. Looks like I will be selling the Nexus phones and Galaxy Tab and getting the Sprint Nexus S 4G and Sprint XOOM. Too bad, TMobile was–as I am sure everyone agrees–awesome.

    • Aerofanbig

      Nexus S 4G (and what looks like LED flash) dropping on Sprint soon-ish

    • Prsketch

      I read you can still use your nexus s and galaxy tab on AT&T network. there is a menu in the samsung galaxy phones and tablet that allow you to switch to the AT&T 3G network

      • Bimmerz

        I saw that within the settings, when I was setting up my NS – it had 2 choice of carriers listed (T-Mobile and AT&T), however, it’s my understanding that the NS on AT&T will only do EDGE.

        But if what you’re saying is true (and I hope you’re right), then I’ll be ok to continue using my NS – I’ll need to look into this more, but I think the NS will only do EDGE on AT&T.

        • Prsketch

          Yeah I read that once the change takes place that our galaxy phones will be covered and other phones 3G phones might have a problem. I hope what I read was true. Yeah I don’t want to change my phone. and don’t want the “MAN” to give me a locked down android phone.

        • tex

          Where did you read this? I’d like to look into this as well.

  • Tfan

    If Verizon and Sprint are smart at Marketing they will go after every T-Mobile user NOW by matching their rate plans and offering them phones. They could steal AT&T’s thunder by stealing a majority of their subscribers. I’m thinking about just locking down on the 3000 minute plan with T-Mobile and riding the storm out for now. I don’t think they will want to raise all T-Mobile customers rates right away after the takeover completes, but I’ve seen AT&T do some stupid things.

  • I get 6 Mbps on Tmobile HSPA+ network, when ATT takes over, they will literally tear ALL 3G/4G (AWS) Tmobile towers down to free up the spectrum block, and then use this to build their LTE network on, (even though they already have 700, greedy bastards). This will mean that virtually all tmobile 3G dependent users, ie, blackberry, android, smartphone users of any kinds will have to replace their phones, and will be thrown onto ATTs ridiculously slow network. Not only this, but ATT’s network will get even slower b/c tmo subscribers will be sharing bandwidth with them. This is going to be devastating for Tmo customers, no more fast internet and no more 3G/4G for us. ATT will control 37% of the US cellular market, which according to many is more than enough market share to influence costs, and form a terrible monopoly. As far as their claims of rural broadband is a lie, b/c Att will not invest in additional towers for only a family of individuals, when in city areas the same investment will bring thousands of subscribers, there is no evidence that a tmo acquisition will cause Att to push for rural broadband. This is taking an already heavily concentrated oligopoly and making it even more monopolistic. It is ridiculous, and unfair, our government should not allow this deal to happen.

    Att claims that they have rolled out HSPA+ like Tmo, but they have not pushed out more bandwidth, it doesn’t matter if my phone is on 4G when my speeds aren’t any higher than 3G. ATT has horrible service, tiers data, and automatically adds upgrades data plans for “suspected tethering” is complete bullshit and I cannot stand this.

    To acquire AWS license from a competing company or from an FCC auction they would need an excess of 6 billion dollars. Why spend 6 billion for a few paper licenses when we can buy a whole company for 49 billion, licenses in tact? This is NOT good for customers, we need to start a petition so that this deal never happens.

    • Jeffreygreen1315

      I totally agree with Flag. The ONLY reason AT&T is still in business, is because of the “I” family. Poor cs, dropped calls, slow speeds. When, if this deal goes through, I will switch to Verizon and pay more and get the same as what T-Mo is giving me now!

  • I guess phone manufacturer will be pushing out LTE/HSPA+ UMTS 1700/1900/2100 later this yr

  • This is why I’m waiting for nokia to release a windows 7 phone. They have pentaband radios supporting t-mobiles 3g and at&ts 3g so that problem is solved. I just hope they don’t change my current plan :(.

    • jarjon76

      They’re going to change your plan once your contract runs out.

      • You just want me to commit suicide don’t you.

        • jarjon76

          Just giving you the heads up. AT&T isn’t interested in us T-Mobile customers like T-Mo was.

  • Avi

    Pretty irresponsible advice. You are assuming people are paying between $100-200 on contract. What if I spend $600-800 on a phone or tablet off contract? Even without that, why is it no big deal to have to purchase two devices? T-Mobile acting like it’s business as usual means absolutely nothing to me. ATT/T-Mobile couldn’t care less about me. It’s all about the bottom line. Anyone who thinks otherwise is just fooling themselves.

    • krispy kreme

      i am not a contract customer. i pay for my phones outright. i obviously pay much more than the $150-$200 contract price. this has really got me thinking otherwise about getting the pyramid.

  • Anonymous

    If your the type who buys a new phone the week the 2 year contract ends, then yeah buy a new phone with T-Mobile. But I would avoid if you tend to keep the phone a year or two passed the contract.

    The real good news is that, if you are forced to buy a new phone, just to get 3G/4G service, then you can do that with any company. It adds alot of ammunution to the argument, in which you speak with a T-Mobile CSR and threaten to switch to another company. Im going to compare the prices and switch to whatever is the cheapest carrier, its that simple.

    I used to work for a small cable company, we swapped territories with Cox Cable in SoCal and when soon to be Cox customers call us up, anything they wanted, we gave it to them. Extended digital tv promos, free cable card rentals, install fee waived, free modem rental for 12 months, we didnt even need to confirm this with the manager. T-Mobile will be pressured into doing everything they can to keep those existing customers from leaving for Sprint or Verizon. So while right now might not be the best time to call and make the wild demmand that you may have felt like a jerk for asking, give it 6-10 months before you do.

    ATT is a horrible company. They cant win customers over with their service, so they lure you in with things like the iPhone, or buy out other companies. They originally sold off their cell phone unit, it later became Cingular, then ATT bought it back. Now theyre going to buy T-Mobile now that theyre bleeding iPhone customers to Verizon.

  • Brook

    This is going to pretty much kill the small GSM carriers around the US… they have always piggy-backed on either t-mo or att… now att will single handedly hold almost all of the GSM towers and could drive up pricing on roaming agreements to the mom and pop carriers effectively shutting them down. i’d be seriously surprised if the DOJ and FCC allow this to go through

  • If your a Nexus One or Nexus S user right now..You’ve got to be feeling sick…I wondering what Google will do about this?

    • I trust Google has a plan for the Nexus users.

      • I’m sure they do too, I usually only buy android phones that are stock vanilla(N1 & G2) and no other network provides them but T-Mobile.

        • BrendanMcC

          Sprint is getting the Nexus S 4G.

        • This is true, but I really hate Sprint… but if that’s where I have to go to get my vanilla…sigh

    • nexus one here and it really ticks me off!!

    • Google has been in talks with Verizon for some time. You may recall they were in talks on Net Neutrality with Verizon Wireless, so the topic of phones with Google on a Verizon Network must have been discussed.

      • I’ll be switching to Verizon then

    • Quattrocoupe

      I purchased a Nexus S 45 days ago at full pop price. This announcement has not only put a time frame on the useability of the phone as it was intended, but has killed any potential resale value. I have sent an email to Best Buy asking how I may return the phone.

      • Yea just this past Saturday literally a day before the buyout, I was going to buy the Nexus S and sell my Nexus One. As for resale value, I know how you feel

    • Akeem

      Yes I am sick to my stomach. Me and my NS

  • Bob_ahblah

    That settles it for me. Verizon here I come. I’ve already asked my co-workers that live in the area that use Verizon and they all said that they get great service here. It looks like they have a nice selection of Droid phones coming out this year. The Droid Bionic looks pretty sweet and the Targa is rumored to be the first quad core later this year. Thanks while it lasted TMO.

  • I posted this on another thread but it might belong in this one more:

    What I want to know is this:

    Since T-Mobile’s 3G runs at a different band than at&t and at&t has stated they will be shutting down that band for 3G, will T-Mobile continue to upgrade their 3G network at this point? I would think not. Yes, it’s a year until the merger is complete and then probably another year until things are merged but starting RIGHT NOW, why would T-Mobile put money into a 3G network that will be gone in a couple years.

    The 3G network here in the Seattle area is unreliable as it is now. I have dropped calls/messages, cut outs, etc etc. If I force my phone to EDGE, it’s fantastic. I now have no hope that the 3G will be fixed at th is band. So it seems I should get out now wouldn’t you think?

    • Akeem

      Yesssss leave. Im going to VZW

  • Tortionist

    Hey David, you might want to rename this blog…something like AT&TMOnews.com might work. I enjoyed your blog while it lasted.

  • A S

    > With AT&T planning to use T-Mobile’s existing 1700 MHz spectrum for future LTE rollouts, AT&T execs are saying that T-Mobile customers will have to replace their current 3G/4G phones once the merger is completed. This will be a mandatory upgrade unless of course you want your phone to work on edge only.

    I call shenanigans on this. What will happen to the current AT&T customers who have 3G phones? Will their phones somehow magically continue to work after AT&T rolls out LTE? If yes, how come AT&T 3G customers are unaffected by this? I think this is a clever attempt by AT&T to bring T-Mobile customers into its fold. In one genius stroke, AT&T would be getting rid of all the rogue T-Mobile devices out there with features that AT&T doesn’t approve and all the T-Mobile service plans that AT&T doesn’t like, because guess what are your only choices when it is time for the mandatory upgrade? AT&T and AT&T.

    • Anonymous

      ATT’s 3G band uses a different spectrum from Tmobile’s. It’s basically a way for them to get you to switch over by eliminating the Tmobile 3G spectrum.

      • jarjon76

        Yep, AT&T knew all along that the T-Mobile customers who stay will eventually have to switch over. And that means higher priced plans/service for less.

        • Tirtawn

          Not necessary, if you buy the phone off the contract. Put it this way, the rest of the world is not using AWS band.

          And in theory, you should be able to use iPhone when the deal go through :).

        • jarjon76

          You’re assuming I like the iphone. I like phones that are more than bells and whistles. The iphone is overrated.

    • Maybe you don’t know that Tmobile uses a different 3G frequency than the rest of the world. All they would have to do is turn off that frequency and there you go, no 3G on tmobile.

    • From my understanding, 3G will be unaffected on at&t. It’s just LTE that would be different. the current at&t 3G phones don’t matter anyways since they don’t do LTE. It matters for T-Mobile’s phones because at&t is going to use T-Mobile’s 3G band for LTE.

  • lexophile

    once you have to replace your phone to work with the new network, would your plan have to change? i have a grandfathered loyalty plan btw

    • If you buy a phone from at&t, you would have to change your plan. But if you buy a compatible phone unlocked somewhere, you would be able to keep your plan…at least for a while I would assume.

      • lexophile

        big red here i come…in 18 months

    • Anonymous

      I am sure at some point you will.

    • jarjon76

      Yes, your plan would have to change. This is AT&T’s plan (no pun intended)–switch all of T-Mobile customers (that don’t leave) to AT&T phones/plans. They are ridding themselves of the T-Mobile name. They wanted T-Mobile’s spectrum and customers–they aren’t interested in customer service or keeping the low priced T-Mobile plans. If you stay with the new AT&T, prepare to pay more for less.

      • Vejadu

        Anyone being fired or let go at any stores or at any call centers were already getting fired. These are two separate companies and will be for another 12 to 18 months. I think everyone is getting all upset way to soon in the process especially when there is a possibility it may never happen.

        • ximage

          “Anyone being fired or let go at any stores or at any call centers were already getting fired”. It’s going to get worst with stores and call centers employee after AT&T take over. It will just be a matter of time when AT&T cut their lost. It won’t matter how well you do your job at all. All AT&T want to see is the bottom line, how much profit they get by converting T-mobile user to new plan and how much profit they can get by cutting down their work force. It happens all the time after a company take over another no matter what they tell you before the take over.

    • Bdestroyer8418

      I would like to no what would happen to grandfather/loyalty plans as well. If they are going to make us sign up for a ATT plan then I might as well start shopping at Sprint or Verizon soon or on my next phone purchase. I’m happy with my Unlimited mins and Android Data plan for $70

  • swehes

    What happens with people who are buying phones off contract? Are they planning on repurpose those phones as well off contract?

  • Olographics28

    As long as the service and OF COURSE THE PRICE will be same or just a very little higher, everything sound ok, but if I will have to pay those EXTREMELY HIGH PRICES OF ATT, there is no way my family and I will be getting the service with this new company.
    I think there will be thousands (millions???) of T-Mobile costumer who are not happy with this notice and will migrate to another more affordable cellular company if AT&T prices are the same as today or maybe higher.

  • P Loco01

    This is not gonna be good if it is approved.There is no positive side for tmobile users we get higher planes less min and the big thing will be “no more unlimited data”planes. Those are the main reasons tmo customers are with tmobile, plus the no. 1 customer service. My brother has as&t and there customer service is not that good. plus they are still behind on 4g service.I use a Galaxy S 4g with at&t i will probly be spending over $70 just for data usage’ so what good is that with everyone using smart phones now. AT&t 4G cannot compete with tmobile so it will just a step down for tmobile users, worse service for more money.

  • Deceptivesmiles

    Yea, I’m definitely goin to switch to Verizon if this deal goes through. I really loathe CDMA networks but its gon be better than the monopoly that is AT&T. Verizon might be number 2 when the deal goes down, but after the smoke clears, they’ll be number 1 again.

    • Anonymous

      This doesn’t make any sense. How is Verizon any less of a monopoly than AT&T? They don’t offer unlimited data either anymore, and their prices are even worse than AT&T’s.

      Enjoy yourself on a slower, more expensive network.

      • Anthony

        verizon does offer unlimited data. check their site. its actually not too bad.

      • sino8r

        Verizon has the fastest network around and they haven’t bought a thousand smaller companies to become #1.

        • Anonymous

          No, Verizon’s CDMA network has shown slower data speeds than either AT&T OR T-Mobile in every independent test. And from a wireless perspective, who else has AT&T purchased? And didn’t Verizon buy Alltel? Wasn’t AT&T #1 before Verizon did that?

          So…you’re wrong on every count.

    • guest

      you are dumb!! Verizon isn’t a monopoly??? really??

      • sino8r

        No one said it was…. he was referring to at&t, dumbass!

  • P Loco01

    Think about it if AT&T is already the second largest cellular company and there prices are higher then Tmobile plus they dont offer unlimited data. So what do u think is gonna happen with they become the largest cellular company by a large margin.Tmobile being there with cheap prices is the one thing that kept the other companies prices somewhat in check, so trust its not gonna be good for customers if the gone.

  • Anonymous

    “T-Mobile has tried to clear up that they are still two separate companies. T-Mobile is going about business as usual and so should you. If you want the HTC Pyramid, get it! The T-Mobile G2X? Get it and then use it in good health.”

    Of course tmobile is going to say business as usual. they still need to make money. what happens if a year from now at&t comes out and says they are gonna make the switch faster and everyone will have to buy new phones? people with new htc and lg or whatever phones they bought will have to get rid of them if they want 3 or 4g. Do you really believe what at&t says? I wouldn’t. They say it would take a while untill you would have to buy one of there phones but at&t is not a company you should believe.

    Edit: I doubt they would give a phone of equal or less value. they will come out with some bs like “we are giving discounts so you can buy a new phone.’ some bs 50 or 100 dollar discount.

  • Hey if that means i can get an early full upgrade i’ll buy some more phones haha

    • Tazy254

      I say let the merge happen nd mayb AT&T will take the positives frm tmo ex cs

      • Aerofanbig

        the ONLY thing AT&T will take is bandwidth. Thats IT. Not their great service, not their excellent employee’s.

    • Tazy254

      I say let the merge happen nd mayb AT&T will take the positives frm tmo ex cs

  • Yeah, and when you “Upgrade” to the new AT&T phone I’m sure they will be “Upgrading” your rates and downgrading your data.

  • wtf??!?

    I currently have the original MT3G, and have been waiting for the G2X or Pyramid. Now, it seems buying one of these is a waste of $$ (resale value, etc). I certainly don’t want to be stuck on this laggy mt3g for much longer though- what are my options?

    Buy an expensive, mediocre unlocked phone? Switch carriers when my contract runs out in a few months? Or, just suck it up and do a T-mobile upgrade with a 2 year contract extension?

    Also, assuming the acquisition is complete in less than two years, will I be able to get out of my contract?

    • Johnfn

      Wait for the new Nokia phones to come out, they work on both companies systems.

  • With AT&T “re-purpose” AWS spectrum for LTE, that’s mean there will be less spectrum for HSPA/+.

    With the combined user base on both AT&T and Tmo, I won’t be surprise the piss poor wireless experience all AT&T users are having now will be continued into both AT&T + Tmo users on HSPA/+ (and dont even mentioned you have to get a new phone…) The only way out at that point is to pay much more for LTE… is that what we want?

    To me, absolutely no. I just hope FCC shot it down, and I will urge all to write and complain to FCC just for that.

  • TM97

    All new 3G/4G deployment will cease, and adding T1’s and Ethernet circuits won’t be ordered because of this merger. They are already starting to let people go, two store managers were axed this morning. The main AT&T directive to T-mobile is stop spending anymore money.

    • trueforce

      that is BS. there is now way At&T can tell that to Tmo as it violates the antitrust laws. also i work here and for us its business as usual. there have been no layoffs so stop trolling

    • Cybersedan

      Agreed, the one thing people don’t need are Trolls creating more confusion than what already exists.

  • Menchi

    Will the upgrade to new phones be a free full upgrade? Or a partial upgrade? They better be paying for our new phones cause we didn’t sign up for this buyout

  • Minioninnc

    I will almost bet that the ones that are on a Even More Plus plan without contract they won’t give a new phone to. And also in turn if they do it will be a low end phone. I don’t see them giving away $500 phones without getting people to sign a contract.

  • MIKEEEEE

    the deal breaker for me will be wifi calling and ANDROID.

    if they reduce current levels of service, i will rent a po box in a sprint coverage area and go sprint.

    their marketing geniuses are a lot dumber than ours.

    • Android users already can’t do WiFi calling…well, I take that back, SOME can, but not all/most.

      • Climber42104bg

        I’m using wifi calling no problems at home and other locations, so no issues for me.

        • Bart

          I use wifi calling through the non-root sipdroid, pbx proxy, google voice arrangement. I highly suggest it as it works on my Vibrant and is free calling essentially, just have to use your google voice number. I’m more worried about losing tmobile customer service/customer loyalty departments. They’ve helped me a lot.

      • Most new Android phones from T-Mobile have Wifi calling, as have any that have received Froyo firmware updates recently. Recent CyanogenMod builds also provide it for older phones.

        It’s more common than you might think :)

  • Anonymous

    It is absolutely ignorant to think that anyone who signs a two year contract tomorrow will be affected at all by the AT&T merger. The time frame for the POSSIBLE merger between the two mobile giants is 12-18 months. So let’s be extremely conservative and say 10 months. Do you think AT&T could possibly turn around and convert T-Mobile’s 1700 mhz frequency into LTE overnight? No. It is much more probable that we are, at minimum, two years away from anyone being forced into anything resembling a new phone. Let’s put that on pause for a minute though. How about the fact that it is 100% illegal to change someones contract terms without prior notice and prevent them from leaving the company. If you sign a contract tomorrow, and AT&T wants to change that contract in 3 months, then you can throw the deuce up and leave. No early termination fee, no armed guards. Just you and your pride.

    So please, for the sake of all humanity, don’t try to make people think that T-Mobile is any different today than it was yesterday. Sure, in a couple years, I’ll probably be shopping at Sprint or Verizon for a phone, but if you want the G2X, or the Pyramid, go get it. You truly have nothing to fear from these over-embelishing morons.

    • Shibboleth07…. Can you put this “guarantee” (as it sounds) in writing?

      Because if you can’t (and I know you can’t) You would have to be not an “over-embellishing” moron , but a “Plain Old” moron to buy a Tmobile 3g/4g phone now to possibly be forced to buy a new one a year or so from now!

      So, for those of us Tmobile users that are in the “Wait and See” mode with this whole AT&T/TMobile thing. All we can do is “Wait and See” with what we 3g phone we have now!

    • andrzejn

      Let me ask you this question over next 12-18 months will Sprint or Verizon work on updating their network, putting more towers, improving speeds? The answer is most likely. Will T-Mobile keep updating their network? I don’t think so. So if I have a choice and my contract was up tomorrow I would not pick T-Mobile for my next contract no matter if merger with AT&T will most likely will not be over by the time this new contract is up.

  • Ldominguez1986

    I just called tmo cc and they said that we would still continue to get 4g without having to trade in the phone, is that correct or am I not reading this correctly

    • they’re wrong. once the merger happens AT&T will eventually shut off the 1700/2100 bands that T-Mobile uses.

      All 3G/4G phones for t-mobile will lose 3G/4G service when that happens.

      • Farhan

        Not exactly. AT&T need T-Mobiles spectrum so shutting it down is not an option. It might take several months after the acquisition goes through to eventually be used for AT&Ts LTE expansion instead of the HSPA+ that they’re being used for. That’s how T-Mobile phones will lose the 3g/4g service.

        • Anonymous

          Uhh ATT specifically said you would need a new 3G phone once the merger is complete. Their 3G/4G run off the same bands.

    • Steffanut

      Tmobile reps are giving the only information that they have for sure. Party line.

  • Anonymous

    Who said there’s a merger? This is gonna get block by FFC and DOJ.

    • Anonymous

      If that was the case then comcast wouldnt have been alloed to but nbc

      • Skozsert

        Maybe, but this is really a much larger issue. A duopoly in the field of communications is more damaging than cable/entertainment. And the national wireless market only has four companies left to begin with.

        • It will pass. AT&T would not even attempt this deal if it wasn’t at least 90% sure it was going to make it. Plus if your worried about a GSM monopoly then your thinking too hard.Its a type of technology which in the end gives phone signal just like CDMA. Two different technologies that deliver the same service so I dont see a problem of how there will be a monopoly.

  • bl

    This article is very myopic and is only applicable to people who upgrade their phones frequently (which is a majority of the people who come to this site, but only a VERY tiny percentage of T-mobile customers).

    I typically use the same cellular telephone for 5-6 years. This will definitely impact people (and the environment as hundreds of millions of useless toxic devices may wind up in landfills) who try to get more than a year or 2 out of a device. Most people I know currently choose to use the same device for 3-7 years.

    • I believe that people who use their phones 5-6 years will not care that much about EDGE, 3G, 4G, LTE, whatever else may come by the time this merger is completed.

    • Dude

      Wow, your phone actually LASTS 5-6 years?! That’s impressive. Let’s see…I married my wife 6 years ago…I think I was on Nextel with some crappy Motorola phone back then. Can’t imagine that still working!

      • T-ina Mobile

        Heh… My mother has been using her old nokia (which used to be mine) and its still ticking after 7 years. Those old phones are durable little suckers.

  • LuvnMT4G

    I just bought a MyTouch 4g last month. I am NOT a happy camper! I guess I will start looking at Verizon’s family plans. My mom also has Tmo, so we will both be forced to upgrade our phones. Hmmm….If I would have known about this, I wouldn’t have purchased the MT4G. At least I am on the EM+ plan, so I can jump ship whenever!

    • good luck with those vz family plans. i think they have…..wait for it……one! lol. at least they did last time i checked. last time i checked they only had like 5 or 6 plans alltogether.
      i stand corrected…just checked. they have a whopping total of 2.

      • jarjon76

        I checked Verizon’s family plans myself last night and was stunned how EXPENSIVE they are. Having been a very happy T-Mobile customer for 6 years, I haven’t had the need/desire to look at what the other carriers are charging. Needless to say, I was taken aback on the ridiculously high prices by Verizon and AT&T. Sprint’s wasn’t THAT bad, but I’m not a big Sprint fan. Not a good time to be a T-Mobile customer.

        • i hear ya. i laughed at the very limited choices. we’ve been so accustomed to tmo’s plans that seeing vz’s was a shock. if att sucks big time, sprint is the best deal as far as pricing.

  • Rfgenerator

    Even if the buyout is denied (pretty unlikely) effective immediately T-Mobile will be stopping any further 3G rollout. I also suspect the phone manufacturers for T-Mobile will quit development on any new phones as T-Mobiles brand of 3g is effectively on a death sentence. They may even put the brakes on any manufacture of current models. The horror show pretty much starts today… Good luck finding a higher end Blackberry or Android phone in the next few months…

  • E Hugus

    What happens to the service when traveling abroad? I have heard too many horror stories about not having any service at all with At&T when they tell you that everything will be fine if I go to China or other countries in the world.

    • Dude

      For what it’s worth I had AT&T before T-Mobile (switched Jan ’10), and never had issues when traveling international with my AT&T phones (I had a Treo 650 and then 750 back then). I used those phones in France, Iceland, Argentina, and in Japan…and never had issues. I’ve also been very hapy with T-Mobile when overseas…most recently in France.

  • So basically your saying we might as well not upgrade to any phones coming out this year unless it’s using T-Mobiles 4G service, correct? I’m getting that Sidekick 4G regardless who merges with T-Mobile, S-Mobile, No-Mobile. Period.

    • No… the Tmobile 4G or 3G (as it works now) will NOT work within the AT&T Network – Tmobile’s 1700 frequency is going to be used for AT&T’s LTE. You’d have to have a LTE Chip in your phone – which doesn’t exist yet!!!

    • OK guys, let’s go through it again.

      T-Mobile’s 4G and 3G systems are not separate, like their 2G and 3G systems are. T-Mobile’s 3G is something called W-CDMA, which supports the ability to run at different speeds. The “4G” thing T-Mobile promotes is simply an upgrade to their 3G system that’s extremely fast. The faster speeds only work with handsets that understand the technology, but, believe me, it’s still, fundamentally, the W-CDMA system with a lot of backward compatible enhancements.

      So when you hear “AT&T plans to turn off T-Mobile’s 3G system”, you can read that as “AT&T plans to turn off everything except T-Mobile’s 2G systems.”

      The utter contempt AT&T has for T-Mobile’s customers surprises me. I’m looking for a new carrier – if AT&T are successful, and take over T-Mobile, and haven’t announced a change of course, I’ll switch the next day. And frankly, TmoNew’s loyalty is understandable, but you’d have to be stark staring bonkers, or have more money than sense, to buy a $400 phone right now knowing that the phone will be only slightly more useful than a flip phone in two to three years from now. The only way I’m upgrading right now is if TMo gives me a G2 for free – and doesn’t require I switch to a contract plan.

  • Anonymous

    T Mobile will loose many customers.

    Europe’s “big wigs” have no clue how they effectively made T Mobile the worst choice.

    This is the real situation

    Smart phone Vbrant Captivate
    GSM: 850, 900, 1800, 1900 850, 900, 1800, 1900
    UMTS: 1700/2100, 2100 850, 1900, 2100
    HSDPA: Yes (HSDPA 7.2 Mbit/s) HSDPA 7.2 Mbit/s)
    HSUPA 5.76 Mbit/s

    As you can all see GSM bands will work and so will Edge.. But 3G wont. as 1700/2100 and 850/1900 are not the same frequency.

    Unless T Mob offers a phone that will guarantee continuity when they cease to exist. Anyone laying down 500 dollars for their service would be a fool.

    That was big shot on the foot.

    By the time ATT gets T Mobile.. it will have < half or less of its current subscribers. Its going to cost both ATT and T Mobile a great deal.

    • Kweef78

      You lost me at “loose”

    • JLo

      You are stupid, most tmobile customers are in contract and their contract won’t expire by the time At&t owns T-Mobile.

      Further the only people who know about this buyout are blog nerds. The masses won’t know about the merger until their local tmo store stays At&t on the outside.

      So to say by the time the deal is done tmo will have half or less of its current customers is stupid.

      Seriously, are you always this stupid in life or just online? Man if I had your stupid brain I’d cry every single day

      • Fortunate1

        Wow, you’re an @$$ hole! My mom even knows about this, because it’s been all over the news!

      • Yeah its even on CNN even though the world is about to end.

      • there was just a segment on fox news about the merger. more people will know than you might think. word is getting out quick.

      • Anonymous

        Absolutely right. It has been on CNN, Fox “News” and a host of other outlets. Apparently You ARE a blog nerd and don’t actually have a clue what is happening outside your parents basement!

      • jarjon76

        Actually, this story has made its way to the mainstream media. Most major news outlets have picked up on this story. It’s a huge story because it affects so many people. And it’s a story out of left field–most thought Sprint would buy T-Mobile.

        • T-ina Mobile

          yeah… I’m watching the Tonight Show, and he just made jokes about it in his monologue… and earlier I saw it on my local news station.

    • JLo

      Also the masses aren’t running to pay etf fees just to run away from the merger, unless you are stupid go ahead and pay the 200 fee

      • Fortunate1

        You’re still an @$$ hole! I’m on the EM+, so I can walk at anytime. However, some dislike ATT enough to pay the ETF. Doesn’t make them stupid. Although, your posts make you look like an ignorant jackass!

        • Ldominguez1986

          I am one of the people willing to pay the etf. I am just waiting to see what happens for now, but if it turns out that everything will go to shit for sure, Here I come Sprint

        • good thing my contract is over and i have the ability to leave without the etf fee, though, i will stick through to see if i can grandfather in my plan. it would cost me an extra 50 on my bill for the same service on at&t so if sprint can lower down for t-mobile customers and have awesome phones…here i will go sprint

      • jarjon76

        Don’t be so sure. YOU may not be willing to pay an ETF to rid yourself of AT&T, but there will be more than a handful that will. Not everyone will bolt, but a lot will. One of the main reasons people are with T-Mobile is because they either had a horrible experience or heard a lot of bad things about AT&T.

    • if i see one more person misspell the word lose, i swear i’m going to smash the screen on my g1.

      • Lastmilefire

        HA … that too drives me crazy my friend. LOOSE = Lindsey Lohan
        Lose= Tmobile customers AND employees

      • I can’t believe that you still have the G1 it is time for an upgrade for someone reading a tech Blog I can’t believe what I am reading

        • jarjon76

          I still have the G1 and it works great. I haven’t had one problem with it and I’m a heavy data user. No need to thumb your nose at those of us who don’t feel the need to change our phones every 6 months.

        • lol actually, the screen is already smashed. but it still works great,thanks to cyanogen.

    • The Nokia C7-00 and N8 look mighty nice right about now…. :)

    • Actually this is incorrect the for the Samsung Vibrant it has 1700, 1900, and 2100 for UMTS there is tones of news on this at Engadget/Engadget Mobile , also Nokia phones have pentaband meaning it will work. Nokia phones with Symbian ^ 3 and presumably Windows Phone Nokias

  • Angry User

    If you want to bend over, bend over.If you want to get fucked,get fucked. All in good faith

  • Mmmmaxheadroom

    This just in, it looks like the only future proof phone for tmob fans is the nokia astound or c7 everywhere else. Unless of course tmob neuters the radio. The reason is this is loaded with pentaband radios as in tmob and att 3g, so that grandfathered plan price might get you down the road a little further. So what I am saying is if you read between the lines in the att press release and I quote “tmobile customers will be able to keep their plan until the buy a new phone or change their plan”. So what this means is if you can’t get a 3g signal with tmobile we will let you trade in your phone for a shiny new one from att. However you will lose that grandfathered plan as soon as you do go for that new att phone. Sure we’ll let you trade in that old my touch 4g. Just sign here. Muhahahahaha. And then you see you bill……. cry

    • How is that possible? If you like your plan buy an AT&T phone off contract and you get to keep your plan. Its as easy as that.

      • that’s basically what i was saying. at least i thought i was lol. but that’s my plan. after the merger, buy att phone at full price. check out the service/data speeds etc. if i’m not happy, sell it on ebay and jump to sprint.

      • Hurlamania

        Your sim won’t work. You would have too get the phone unlocked and who knows what other issues wil arise. Att won’t want people on cheap plans and unlimited data.

        • Hnabi77

          That’s why you go to the Att shop, and ask for an att sim card after the merge. You will then be their customer and they won’t refuse you a sim card.

        • Like Hnabi77 said! You just go in and request a new sim. You don’t even need to tell them you were a T-mobile costumer and they would give it to you as long as your in the system. Your not dealing with the devil here they are people too.

    • i’m on em+. so, if i but my phone at retail, we’d still be on our grandfathered plan as long as we buy retail-full price,correct? i’m just looking way ahead. verizons family plans are amazingly horrible. sprint has that stupid $10 data surcharge or whatever the hell you wanmna call it. but, they come out closer to tmo’s rate plan for me. and their 4g is probably better than att’s, or so i’m told by friends with sprint. so i’m either going to buy the g2x and see how att’s data is, and keep buying full price phones, or sign my life away with sprint.

  • Realistic

    Any idea what the eBay resell value of a Sidekick 4G will be when it can’t be used with 3G or 4G on AT&T?

  • Realistic

    Any idea what the eBay resell value of a Sidekick 4G will be when it can’t be used with 3G or 4G on AT&T?

    • jarjon76

      No one knows that, but I would guess it would be far less than what you could have gotten had T-Mobile stuck around.

  • Agreeing with justmeherenow…. The only problem with David’s artical as it refers to “Going ahead and getting a Pyramid…” or any present TMobile 3g/4g phone is just that… you will NOT be able to continue to use the Tmobile 3g/4g only Edge once the switch actually happens.

    All we can really do now without feeling any lost is buy a good “Feature Phone” where it uses only GSM. But, who wants that???

    • andrzejn

      On top of that starting today T-Mobile will put zero money into improving their H+ network so forget about speeds of 42 even 21 in most places

  • Fortunate1

    My mom has a 3G phone, but she ONLY talks on it, nothing else. It should still work right? I’m sure she’ll have to unlock it, but she just wants something to talk on. I’d hate to see her have to cough up money if she doesn’t have to.

    • Yes.. she will still be able to make voice calls. That’s the compatible GSM frequencies. Only the 3g or 4g frequencies for data – is what would be lost. Her phone for data will turn to EDGE Only!

      • Fortunate1

        Thank you. She will be more than happy to hear that!

  • It isn’t so cut and dry as rendering your phone obsolete. I’d imagine they would handle it one market at a time. I’m still buying the Pyramid when it comes out. By the time this thing is through I will upgrade to a quad core LTE Nexus 3D.

    I’m just nervous for the next year or two of Android phones on T-Mobile. I upgrade around every six months. I doubt OEMs will make much for them until this is through unless they make pentaband phones.

    I was excited for 42Mbps HSPA+ but I guess that won’t happen

  • Manusferrera

    I know tmobile 4g phones won’t work on AT&T network but will regular 3G phone be ok. I’m not sure but don’t tmobile phones already have the bands for AT&T 3G.

    • No you will NOT have 3g or 4g on AT&T. You will only have EDGE with a TMobile 3g or 4g phone and AT&T’s network!

    • remister

      If 3G did work, iPhone customer on T-Mobile will be also be able to use 3G. Sadly they are only on EDGE!

    • T-Mobile Samsung Vibrant has AT&T 3G(1900) and if you are a Nokia Symbian/Windows Phone fan (maybe Meego) you should be fine (Nokia phones have pentaband 3G meaning T-Mobile and AT&T

  • Aaron_aarsm

    Help T-mobile join my group to show T-mobile how much we care!(T-mobile should not join AT&T!)http://www.facebook.com/home.php?sk=group_119178814824847

  • Anonymous

    TMO is about to release the Nokia C7 which is pentaband. This means it will work on ATT 3g correct? Might be a solution. Very professional build.

  • kojikabuto

    Well, “nothing to worry about” is the same as saying you will be force to upgrade and the cost is for the t-mobile customers to bear. Don’t trust execs all they care about is making themselves rich and sending our jobs everywhere but here.

  • phonegeek

    If this falls through ill see what at&t is talking but 9/10 I’m leaving if the rates go up my only thing is verizion or sprint? Sprint will have the evo 3d and verzion the droid 3….only time can tell

  • Jp2dj1

    and…………….. at&t is starting to kill us……………………..

  • Hurlamania

    That’s a nice way of you will be forced to get on a att rate plan if you want anything other than edge.

  • Can’t Believe T-Mobile . Now i wonder what this website is going to be called At@tNews?

  • AdrianG2

    Maybe this whole situation is a sign that the world really is going to end. 12 to 18 months from now will bring us to around October of 2012.. We’re being bought out by the network Carly always bashes. Hmmm. They might as well approve it on 12-21-12.

  • g2 user

    just got the g2 in october if i have to give it up they better give me something of comparable value or they will have class action lawsuit i know a lot of lawyers ha

    • remister

      Cant we get people to sign petitions now?

    • yyevo

      And the lawyers will get all the money, while the customers get a $20 discount.

    • Their is the HTC Desire z (import) and old Nexus One (AT&T model) that you could buy one E-bay have fun with the class action lawsuit

  • Bruce

    “Should you buy a new T-Mobile phone right now? Absolutely.”

    I disagree. You will regret it when AT&T shuts down the 3G on your phone. It will happen. TMo news does not know when it will happen and neither do I.

    • Buy a phone new phone right now for two rezones, resene number one if you do buy a new phone chances are that AT&T is going to give you some incentive to buy a new phone at a cheeper price most likely. The second resene the Samsung Vibrant has AT&T 3G (1900 band) and if you are into Nokia right now all the Symbian ^ 3 phone will work on both AT&T and T-Mobile also the trends show that Nokia is going to use pentaband 3G from now on meaning Nokia Windows Phone devices also will work on AT&T/T-Mobile Nokia said their goal for their first windows phone is going to be before the end of the year. Also don’t forget about one year contracts and Even more plus

      • 4G_or_not_4G

        how about the G2X, that is an international phone, may have both bands

  • Verizon is a merger of several baby-bell mobile operators and PCS operators. They also recently bought Alltel.

    Recent tests have shown they’re not faster than AT&T, although the LTE roll-out might change that, temporarily. And the voice quality on Verizon is absolutely terrible, which makes me wonder why they’re so popular.

    • Verizon is so popular because when people look at that map and see all red their I need this reliability because for sure they travel all across the US also these people are teches and text and make phone calls, the thing I don’t understand is I all ways here people on Verizon complain about there phones refusing to text and can’t connect and has only one or two bars and they always move closer to the windows to get service, also most regulare people think that if they pay more for service then it most be better.

      • 4G_or_not_4G

        funny how a buddy always talks trash about T-Mobile’s network because it was so small…However when we compared the places he goes…Miami/NY/Washington… that is it, and T-Mobile is strong in all of those places. I personally do not care where T-Mobile is not as neither am I. I only care about where I am and that T-Mobile is at those locations. Then as usual, I would challenge him to see whose network is faster and naturally I always win!

  • To note if the phone you are getting has AT&T bands you are good the Samsung Vibrant has the 1900 and it works on some place in the US on AT&T also note that the Nokia phone have pentaband if you don’t mide the Symbian OS than you would be absolutely fine for when the transition goes threw. My question is for LTE is AT&T/T-Mobile going to use 700 and 1700(AWS)MHz for their LTE network because that is what I assume because I know AT&T has 700MHZ and 700MHz being lower frequency works better in doors also Verizon uses 700MHz and that means their devices will be compatible with AT&T/T-Mobile devices. And I just remembered Nokia making Windows Phone devices means they should be hot sellers because they would have pentaband 3G and sweet.

    • 4G_or_not_4G

      I was just about to post that they need to start selling dual band phones, and this problem will go away…can’t be that expensive!

  • Robert Henderson

    In other words, YES all of you current T-Mobile customers, we are AT&T and we intend to force you to take the AT&T name so we can screw you like we do our current customers!

  • Anonymous

    tmobil just posted the merger on the website

    http://www.t-mobile.com/

    • Fortunate1
    • Anonymous

      “If the acquisition closes, will I still be able to use my T-Mobile USA phone?

      Yes. Your T-Mobile USA device will operate the same in the future as it does today.”

      ATT has already confirmed this isn’t totally true. No 3G/4G after the merger.

      • Anonymous

        RTFA (Read the f***ing article)

        The spectrum they use for third-generation services, or 3G, will be re-purposed for 4G, which is faster. That would leave current T-Mobile phones without 3G. They would need to be replaced with phones that use AT&T’s 3G frequencies. Ralph de la Vega, AT&T’s head of wireless and consumer services, said this will happen as part of the normal phone upgrade process. “There’s nothing for them to worry about … it will be done over time, in a way that’s good for customers and good for AT&T,” says Ralph de la Vega.

        The last sentence says that it will take some time for this to happen. I don’t like what is happening but i don’t know why is everyone so sensational and just jumping to irrational conclusions?

  • Jay

    okay so eventually I’ll need a phone for at@t network, my main concern is my even more plus plan my bill is 60 bucks, I just pay full price for my mytouch 4g and save a lot in the long run as long as I don’t don’t use discounts my bill stays nice and low, so will I still have this option?

    I don’t think t-mobile is worth more than 60 a month. 500 minutes, free t-mobile to t-mobile, unlimited text and data

    houston, texas

  • TNipps

    “There’s nothing for them to worry about … it will be done over time, in a way that’s good for customers and good for AT&T,”

    I’ve heard something like this somewhere before…. Oh YES! I remember now… “”If you like your health care plan, you will be able to keep your health care plan.”

    it was BS then…. and it’s BS now.

    • Anonymous

      Oh were you forced out of your healthcare plan?

      • TNipps

        Yes as a matter of fact I was.

        • Anonymous

          Gov job?

        • TNipps

          Nope – private sector.

  • Mrand07

    Please Read and comment. yourworld2day.blogspot.com

  • Surge234234

    If I am on simple mobile with my iphone which is a part of tmobile and can’t get 3G because of diff bands, does this mean I should be seeing some 3G on my non AT&T iPhone soon???

    • Anonymous

      Not unless you switch carriers. Simple mobile is pretty much done for if they don’t change bands after this merger.

  • Ilyas_k15

    this just gets worse and worse. i really hope this deal doesn’t go through. not only would we have to give up our devices, but at&t will obviously mess up the plan costs. I really enjoy my myfaves family plan, and a $30 a month data service. i don’t want to give that up, considering that i’m satisfied with the service in my area. deutsche telecom is a douchebag for doing this

  • Hecg55

    I hate this I hate this I hate this! I wanted to get the optimus 2x or the pyramid but I seriously think this is bs! And now it’s pointless to me that I do. The fcc should stomp this! soon there will only be two major carriers and prices will be ridiculous. I really hope this doesn’t pass!

  • jj

    What happens if we opt out of our plans when the merger is complete? If we go into contract now, and we want to opt out because we don’t want to go to ATT, would they compensate us for having to buy a new phone with a contract elsewhere? If not, there’s no point in buying a phone right now for there is a risk for the merger to happen earlier than our contracts expiring, no?

  • Anonymous

    Even if this doesn’t go through this will still hurt Tmobile and their HQ still wants to sell the US branch obviously. Alot of potential buyers will avoid getting any service until they see how this plays out. We are on a sinking ship I guess it’s best to bail while we are ahead. I hate this.

    • Derrickps3

      gas is high, we are in recession, bills………….and now i find out att has defeated tmo by buying them out??? LIFE IS GREAT……lol

  • Anonymous

    You know, now that I think about this…..I wonder to myself why Michael Moore hasn’t thought of doing another one of those “Roger and Me” movies about AT&T and how utterly anti-customer they are.

    If I had the $$, hell, I’d even through some sheckels into the mix to make a documentary about it. Getting to bottom of who the REAL Ralph De La Vega is, would probably be a VERY interesting movie indeed. I’d go see it in the theaters.

  • matt

    if the merger is approved and att suspends simple mobile services, i will no longer pay for cell phone services anymore, anything over $60 for unlimited talk, text and web is just not worth it. i dont plan on switching back to metro, verizon or using any companies under sprint. i personally like gsm and using sim cards to switch back and forth phones i’ve purchased here in the us and internationally. but i guess we’ll just have to wait and see the outcome.

  • Galaxylover

    I don’t understand. Am I the only one concerned about SPEED? I’m not a rich man by any stretch of the imagination, but I am far less worried about price of plans going up a few dollars than I am about ATT having horrible data speed. That’s why I’m with T-Mobile. It’s the fastest network, and ATT is the slowest. That’s the nightmare for me.

  • Bigger Mac

    So I have a question.. what happens if I switch over to AT&T before the merger is finalized, would I still have to pay the early contract termination fee? I really want the LG Thrill (optimus 3D) when it comes out!

  • 4G_or_not_4G

    Good chance T-Mobile is going to stop putting money into their network and may stop allowing the fast speeds that they have, thus we may start suffering now…been through this before!

    • Galaxylover

      Please elaborate.

  • OCF

    MT4G Bands

    # 850 MHz;900 MHz;1800 MHz;1900 MHz;UMTS: Band IV (1700/2100)

    So, I won’t get 4G :'( But I will get 3G? :'( (after I get an ATT sim card, I’m sure)

    • Petey

      You will not get 4g nor 3g when using on the AT&T network.

      GSM/Edge: 850/900/1800/1900
      Tmobile 3G/4G: 1700/2100
      —-

      AT&T uses 3g/4g: 850/1900 (different from the GSM/Edge: 850/1900)

      • Guest

        Incorrect. The MT4G will work on ATT and does now when you swap in an ATT sim.

  • 4G_or_not_4G

    Best Buy buy back program:)

    • Bigger Mac

      I’m pretty sure Best Buy will stop taking Tmobile phones once the merger is complete

  • Teeiski

    I’m not happy about the merger. Tmobile is a brand that I have come to respect. I may have to go to Verizon just to avoid joining AT&T. I always wanted the Iphone but was too loyal to the Tmo brand because of their exceptional customer service and loyalty to me for being with them from the start.

    Not a happy camper right now but I’ll stay on until the end of my contract.

  • Petey

    Since I’m out of contract now (good thing I didn’t upgrade my phones, since there’s no attractive phones right now), I’m going to wait and see what’s going to happen with the merger/acquisition. If it does get approve, I’m probably going to wait until the next iphone reveal and go for that, or wait til there’s an android phone to come out with ATT that I want. If it doesn’t happen, then I’m going stick with T-Mobile and upgrade my lines whenever those new super phones lands on tmobile!

  • g2 forever

    this is funnny how att now owns tmobile . its funny how a couple months ago tmobile wad makin fun if att and they were at eachers throat lol with their commercials n their trash talk now there hugh as a kite like frends lol.. now wuts the websites new name for this forum?hummm attnews.com or attmonews.com lol or is it goin away?? good question isnt it

  • g2 forever

    hey also wut about the 4g hspa speeds is it gona work now or is it gunna get slower or faster now with att ? r we even guna have 4g cus att doesnt :/

  • g2 forever

    hspa+speeds sorry das wat i ment not hspa

  • J Contreras2172

    Darn! I Just purchased my Nexus S, I guess I’ll go return it since It’s still within the 15 days or I can hold out and enjoy the phone until this acquisition happens. Then, upgrade to an equal value at no cost to me according to what At&t states they will do for us T-Mobile customers.

  • EVERYONE, this is what is going to happen when/if AT&T is given the green light to gobble up T-Mobile. AT&T will move – as quickly as possible – to TURN OFF and convert T-Mobile’s 3/4G 1700/2100 HSPA+ network to LTE. None of of the phones with 3/4G HSPA+ data that we previously bought, T-Mobile is selling now, or until the deal closes will continue to work once AT&T does this. AT&T WILL ATTEMPT TO FORCE YOU TO BUY ONE OF THEIR PHONES AT WHAT THEY FEEL IS A DISCOUNT. All of the back haul T-Mobile put in will IMMEDIATELY BE USED TO SUPPLEMENT AT&T”s current poor excuse for a network, providing some relief and improvement for their present customers. Former T-Mobile customers who fall for AT&T’s upgrade/phone replacement ploy will immediately be introduced to what SCREWED is. The will find themselves LOCKED INTO A 2 YEAR CONTRACT with AT&T’s HORRIBLE, MUCH SLOWER 14Mbps HSPA+ network that AT&T NOW CALLS 4G, HAVE HORRIBLE, HORRIBLE CUSTOMER SERVICE, and BE PAYING MORE FOR IT!!!???? WTF???!!! In the meantime (while all this is occurring), after AT&T CHEWS UP AND SPITS OUT ANY REMAINING FORMER T-MOBILE CUSTOMERS, they will take well over a year to actually push out real 4G LTE and when they do, T-MOBILE CUSTOMERS WHO CONVERTED WILL STILL BE STUCK WITHIN THE TWO YEAR CONTRACT THEY AGREED TO WHEN THEY CONVERTED TO AT&T. All this time, AT&T will be spewing propaganda about how they are the FASTEST, BEST 4G network while maintaining the present ATROCIOUS DROPPED CALL RIDDLED, SLOW NETWORK that they have now with EVEN WORSE CUSTOMER SERVICE (because they refuse to change tactics) AND EVERYONE WILL BE PAYING HIGHER PRICES FOR THIS CRAP SERVICE!!! Don’t believe it, WATCH.

    • Bratty

      Wow. You need to get off those drugs. Try herbal stuff instead.

    • guest43

      Already experienced the above when Cingular bought ATT Wireless and then they branded back.

    • Anonymous

      Seriously, your writing hurts my brain. Paragraphs are your friend.

      If you bothered to read about this proposed merger, instead of sharing your rich fantasy life with the rest of us, you’d know that it will take 12 months or more simply for this merger to be approved. Thus, no change for a year.

      Both the FCC and FTC will crawl up AT&T’s ass to get further consumer concessions from them in exchange for signing off on the deal.There are assurances that your current Tmo agreement would be grandfathered into the merged company, for example (so your nightmare scenario of being “LOCKED INTO A 2 YEAR CONTRACT”–you’re aware you write just like a 13 year old girl, right?–doesn’t follow, unless the consumer finds merit in going with a contract with AT&T). Otherwise, there are plenty of AT&T phones on eBay right now, and no reason to believe there won’t be plenty for years to come; buy a used (whatever the successor to the Atrix or Inspire will be) and light it up on the AT&T system when you’re ready to retire your Tmo hardware, and keep your current Tmo deal going.

      Then, the companies will begin to merge, and that will consume another 12-18 months of simply sorting through assets and personnel and putting all the pieces in place. Then the process of migrating Tmo customers to AT&T’s 3G band will begin, and THAT will probably take 2-3 years, with a hard sunset date built in for the end of Tmo’s 3G. Any current Tmo phones should work until that day, since both companies currently use the same frequencies for voice and EDGE, differing only on 3G.

      Very shortly after that date, AT&T would launch its LTE, using the repurposed Tmo 3G band as part of the bandwidth required. By now, we’re somewhere around 2015, which (take a moment and look at the calendar if you must) is a long time from now. If the idea of LTE makes you happy, THEN you can sign a deal with AT&T–or Verizon, since they’ll have their system in place as well. Or you can be a retro-hipster in 2015 and continue rockin’ 3G on your grandfathered Tmo plan. You have choices now, and you will have them then. The future isn’t nearly as grim as you want to pretend it is, if you use your head.

      • Nyckat

        Where the future IS grim Geo, is in the customer service side of AT&T. I am STILL being billed- a joke since they bill one month in advance- and I left them mid-month with a fully up to date paid bill!
        I think I am going with metro pc or some pay 40 bucks for everything deal- and 400 for the phone, I will save a fortune- and if I am unhappy simply switch to the next new thing that comes out in the pre-paid line!

    • Anonymous

      If you don’t believe this guys rantings, go talk to a former cingular customer. Or a verizon customer that was forced to switch to AT&T when Verizon bought Alltel. AT&T will offer you the lowest discount on a replacement phone they can, plus lock you into a two year contract. You will get a better deal going to another company when your contract is up then you ever will when AT&T forces you onto their network.

  • TedC

    TMo will stop investing in new towers and build out while this is all happening and won’t be in a position to compete for good phones. Expect a long slow slide until TMo is fully acquired and then a rough transition. Basically this is a death blow for TMo. I know I will have to reconsider staying with them when I’m off contract.

  • Galaxylover

    I just lost HSPA+ connection with tmobile. I only have EDGE now. Is this for real?????

    • Msmyspaz1

      Ur phone just sucks

  • Derrickps3

    damn man, this can’t be true, tmobile been defeated by att???? wow, and att is known for terrible coverage…….all i know is they better give every last one of the tmobile members a free phone for this………..i might even leave when my contract expire in sept and just go to verizon……..i just can’t be under att, this is sad news to me

  • Derrickps3

    hell i might be going back to pre paid phones………..lol

  • Josh

    Help sign a petition to stop AT&T from buying T-Mobile. Make your voices heard. :) Looking for at least 3,000 signatures! http://www.thepetitionsite.com/2/stop-t-mobile-from-being-bought-by-att/

    • Anonymous

      Done!

    • Anonymous

      done

    • Analog Spirit

      Done.

  • Greyfoxxero

    Who in their right mind is gonna sign a 2 year contract for a phone that they won’t be able to use in a year?

  • I think this is the worst news (so far…) I have heard about the buyout. There are ALOT of people who do not upgrade every time they can. I just got my Amazing G2 last month, yeah sure in 2 years there will be newer cutting edge phones. BUT, I took a lot of time choosing this phone. And you know what, AT&T just undermined every single T Mo customer by forcing us to buy a new phone, at some point, to work on their network. Certainly our Plans will not be honored at some point either.

    AND WHAT ABOUT MY @HOME LINE????? Gone for sure. I am pissed at the whole thing.

  • Tmoemployees

    As a tmobile rep it was hard today to take calls and listen to people be upset about this. I would feel the same exact way all of you do. Tmo is such a family atmosphere and nothing feels better than having someone,say “i only stYed with Tmo because of the customer service.” Today we all felt betrayed but what sucked the most is having to answer questions about all of this while having a smile on our face worried about of jobs. If we ave to merge with t&t then fine, but at least give us the chance to be able to give at&t customers the customer care that we were able to give our,tmo cutomers. Let us change at&ts customer service. Nothing is worse than going,to,work not knowing if your going to get laid off and leaving our tmo customers to crappy customer service

    • I am tmo sales rep… I am 100% with you on this one. Sorry customers, but as much as it sucks for you it sucks for us even more. So when you come in and see your local sales rep or call customer care. Express some love, we are, and always have been here to serve you. Im truly going to miss my job, atmosphere, and customers if this gets approved.

      • Shore

        lol lame

    • Wanda

      I have always told almost every rep I have ever had to speak with how much I love tmos customer service. I can be having the worst issue ever and even if you guys cant fix it, you’re still there to listen and apologize every which way you can. I know for a fact that AT & T is not like this. A co-worker of mine was on the phone with them for literally 45 minutes just trying to make a payment arrangement, which she has never even done before, they gave her a hard time, and she still got no resolve and doesnt know if her service will be interrupted. She even threatened to leave them and come to tmo, but I guess that wont really matter now. I have been with Tmo since they were voicestream and only had prepaid phones. I have talked to many cc reps from the bottom level all the way up to third tier and from the bottom of heart, I truly have never dealt with better people and I pray that this merger doesn’t happen for the sake of you all and the customers.

  • Bobby Jo

    Stupid At&t!!!!! I hope the feds deny this deal…..

  • Philosoraptor

    Now is a good time to try and sell my phone since it will be a paper weight in a year. Use that money to pay my termination fee and jump ship.

    • Nglive2

      I agree! That is a great idea, how else can we get back at them then to jump ship now. The hell with at&t. Lets start the “churning” now dammit

    • Scwrath88

      Exactly…lets show those rich execs that we are fed up. Why invest money in a new phone at T-Mobile when we can go to Sprint who is about the same price and coverage.

    • Anonymous

      Jesus, read up, Nobody has indicated your current phone will be a “paperweight” in a year. The merger isn’t even expected to complete for a year, and it will require 2-3 years for the companies to integrate their assets and reassign frequencies.

      • Philosoraptor

        Satan, I did read up. In a year’s time I will be close to renewing my contact but my phone’s resale value will be $0. Who wants to buy a smart phone that can only run on Edge? Yes I realize that T-Mobile’s 3G network will still be up, but that coverage is going to dwindle down little by little. A year from now most people bright enough to have a smart phone won’t touch a T-Mobile phone with a 10 ft pole.

        So, Satan, either I lose that money now by switching, or I lose it in a year by keeping my phone and having 0 buyers in a year when I want to sell it.

        • Anonymous

          Apparently, you haven’t read enough.

          First of all, the acquisition needs to pass through Federal hurdles. Had you done any reading in the last two days, AT&T’s stated 12 months to get approved could run even longer to an estimated 18 months. No changes happen with T-mobile during that time. It is widely expected that the Feds will rake AT&T over the coals, just as happened with Verizon when it bought Alltel. There will be a lot of work done on this transaction before it is green-lighted, and it will take a lot of time.

          Then, the combined company will be serving BOTH companies from those towers, not just AT&T. This will go on for probably 2-3 years, while AT&T digests its purchase and frames its plan to roll out LTE. A lot of this is behind the scenes work and doesn’t impinge upon current service (quiz any Verizon friends if they noticed anything negative while LTE was being prepped in the background). Your Tmo phone will continue to have 3G/HSPA+ service during this time, although it will come from a wider array of towers than it presently has, maybe the most robust service with Tmo many of us will ever experience.

          This takes us up to 2014 to 2015 before AT&T shuts off the 3G frequency of T-mobile and repurposes it for LTE. And, yes, by then, any Tmo phone will be not much more than a collector’s item. But until then, it is ludicrous to insist that your phone, one year from now, will have “$0 value”. And by that time, a ca. 2010 model phone wouldn’t have had significant resale value, anyway.

        • Philosoraptor

          Oh Satan, I liked you better when we made bets on Job and stuff.

          Anyway, phones do hold resale value… well mine do. I sold my last phone for $200. Once that 12 – 18 month period is over and the acquisition is official I can guarantee you that AT&T will be putting on the pressure to convert T-Mobile customers over.

          Their priority is to convert T-Mobile’s 3G towers to LTE. And where do these conversions always happen first? Big cities. Where do I live? A big city. In fact I live in DFW where AT&T is headquartered. Think they’ll leave their own headquarter last? Right….

          The most they’ll get is me sticking out my contact to the end, but I, for one, do not welcome our AT&T overlords with open arms.

        • Anonymous

          Tell you what, Chicken Little–You keep convincing yourself the sky is falling. That, and deciding whether your phones “hold their resale value” or whether “it will be a paper weight in a year”.

          If you want to believe the End Is Near, then have at it. I, on the other hand, prefer to keep up on current events, read from knowledgeable writers on this proposed acquisition, and have a sober, rational view of the unfolding events.

          Best of luck to you.

        • Philosoraptor

          It’s Jesus to you!

          So Satan, tell me why any of us should be excited about paying MORE for LESS? For 700 minutes + unlimited everything + phone protection I’m paying about $140 a month. On AT&T that will run me $209, on Sprint it’s just over $160, and on Verizon it’s $170. OH JOY! Please tell me that they include lube for the screwing they are going to give us.

          Besides being some AT&T troll (I’ve never seen so much perfect punctuational in my life on a message board. throw in a typo for Go… for my sake), I don’t know why you’re perfectly fine with it. If you don’t use data then maybe, but just maybe. Either way it’s still more for less.

        • Anonymous

          You seem to believe that I am concerned with your thoughts and feelings.

          I’m not.

          My only concern is to correct the misinformation caused by your apparent estrogen overload the other day. That mission was already accomplished. At this point, I’ll leave you to your phobias, misconceptions and irrational outbursts. Go crazy. Literally. It is all the same to me.

          Best of luck to you.

        • Philosoraptor

          Come on. For once I’ll be serious. Tell us why we should excited about paying more for less? That’s not misinformation. Anyone can go to AT&T’s website and run the numbers themselves. Numbers don’t lie. You will pay more for the same service (or in my case less) .

          FYI I’m on 2 person family plan if you want to run the numbers yourself. And I misspoke by saying 700 minutes. That’s what AT&T would give me, when right now I have 750 on T-Mobile. Also AT&T would cap me at 4 gb for $45 per line while T-Mobile gives me 5 gb for $30 per line. My fiance hits 2 gb a month regularly and with AT&T it is either 2 or 4 gb so I had to choose the larger one.

          If the merger is approved then I’m going to be paying more even if I don’t move to AT&T. It’s not good for customers. I can handle $20 – $50 more month, but I am not happy about it.

        • Anonymous

          ::sigh::

          Is it possible you’re not aware that the FCC, FTC and possibly even the DoJ will be up AT&Ts ass like a colonoscopy? This isn’t going to be rubber-stamped any point along the way, perhaps even more scrutinized than the Verizon/Alltel deal. As T-mobile is known for low-price service plans, there will be oversight by the Feds to ensure consumer-friendly pricing doesn’t disappear.

          Ralph de la Vega has already said that current Tmo plans would be grandfathered. http://www.intomobile.com/2011/03/22/att-says-tmobile-get-keep-its-pricing-structure/

          We know that AT&T is dedicated to making this merger happen, as shown by the $3 Billion (plus bandwidth) play-or-pay fee it would pay if the deal falls through. This places AT&T over a barrel, and the Feds can be expected to demand plenty to protect the consumer and general public (who own those very airwaves the cell companies use).

          Again, T-mobile won’t vanish in a puff of smoke when the merger is approved 12-18 months (or more) from now. It takes time to integrate two functional companies. It wouldn’t surprise anyone if Tmo remained as-is, a subsidiary of AT&T, until LTE was ready to go. AT&T had made noises months ago that it would be testing LTE is a few markets by the end of this year, but a merger will occupy the company’s full attention, especially if combining the companies causes technical changes. They’re rolling out their HSPA+ and figure to be limiting their “4G” efforts to that for the near term–just as with T-mobile, HSPA+ buys AT&T time until they’re ready to roll out their LTE products and service.

          Now, when LTE is ready to go, that will certainly spell the end of Tmo as a service provider, as its 3G band will be repurposed to LTE service, but regardless of which company you were subscribing to, you’d be needing new service to get LTE; just as new 3G phones were needed to upgrade from EDGE (and new service plans resulted), there will be a need for new LTE hardware as well. There is every likelihood that your grandfathered plan with Tmo wouldn’t have survived the change to LTE even if this AT&T thing never happened, as the company would have charged a premium for the premium service.

          And by this time–2014 to 2015–just about anyone would be needing a new phone to replace their 2011 model. Meanwhile, if the data sheet for the LG G2x is to be believed, it will carry 3G bands for both companies, perhaps the harbinger of a trend for Tmo phones for the next couple of years and enhancing value during a transition.

          As an industry trend, people are talking less and less on their phones, and using them more for text messages and data (internet and social media pushes). Where voice was once a profit center for the cell providers, and then text messages (before unlimited became the norm), data will be the new revenue generator. Tmo is already raising its data prices, as has every other company.

          The bottom line is that change is happening throughout the industry. Industry observers will note that the Federal scrutiny of this deal should protect T-mobile customers in the short-term, but in the long-term (2015 and beyond) there will be plan and fee changes to deal with and new technologies come online, which would have happened with Tmo anyway.

        • Philosoraptor

          Long story short I agree with alot of what you said.

          We eventually would be paying higher prices but I don’t agree full with saying that “would have happened with Tmo anyway”. Yes overtime it would have gone up, but never to the price of AT&T.

          Based on AT&T past, grandfathered plans will only work until you want to renew. If they change that for T-Mobile customers I would be very surprised. But hey, you never know. Worth gambling your service on? Not for me.

          No one is sure how long AT&T will take to bring down T-Mobile’s 3G towers. Some are saying a few years until completion, but we don’t know if that is 75% in the first months followed by the last 25% in a year. I do not think they will drag their feet. If you want to gamble your disposable income on it then go right ahead. You obviously aren’t concerned about higher costs in the long run, less choices, or possible lack of service during the transition.

        • Anonymous

          The projections I have seen of the expected merger would have the combined force of the towers from both companies blasting out both services. This has the potential to provide the best wide-area coverage Tmo has ever known once the AT&T network is assisting.

          Instead of “taking down” the Tmo towers, they’d be left up and sending out Tmo 3G, *until* LTE is ready to launch, at which time the band spectrum housing Tmo 3G would be replaced by LTE for the combined AT&T. Not something which would be phased in, but instead something which would be off one day and on the next.

          As for “gambling [my] disposable income”, did you notice that Even More Plus is nearly gone the way of the dodo, since corporate must have discovered that the enticement of lower monthly pricing didn’t lock customers in, and thus led to more churn? Or that the data charges are being raised? Even if this whole thing with AT&T hadn’t come along, there seemed to have been marching orders from DT to increase revenue ASAP. The good times to come at T-mobile would have been less so with or without AT&T.

        • Liphot

          i really dont,t like any of those company especially att thats why i have no landline phone. i think i would buy a prepaid phone like cricket where there is no contracts really nice phone and everything is unlimited for $60.00

  • Jeanninecomeau

    If we’d have wanted to be AT&T customers, we’d have been AT&T customers.

  • BeVol13

    I am the type of person that finds a good phone, gets equipment protection, and uses it for 3 years. Then when I get a new one, after months of debate, I keep my old phone, which are still in perfect working order, as my back up phone. So what this means for me is no more back up phones and I’m gonna have to upgrade sooner then I want. Also what’s going to happen to my wifi calling and @home service?

  • Nospam

    Look if you have a ohone that handles the 1900Mhz you can still use att 3g. I have the motorla defy and if the merger happens I can still use it on ATT.

    • Thehawk555

      That phone sucks take it from an employee

  • JBLmobileG1

    I have a feeling this merger won’t happen. For one Walmarts very own branded cell phone “Walmart Family Mobile” is powered by Tmobile. This would effect those customers as well because they would require new phones. This would most certainly piss off those customers and I don’t think Walmart wants for that to happen considering customers must buy their phones at an outright price. I really hope Verizon, Sprint, and Walmart team up to help stop this from happening. Those companies combined should have a bigger influence than crappy AT&T. Plus there is Simple Mobile which I am sure made a deal with Tmobile to use their towers. Iam sure there was contracts involved.

    • Anonymous

      This is a problem for Walmart YEARS from now. It is more likely that Walmart would abandon this service (if it isn’t profitable for them) before T-mobile surrendered its 3G band. Walmart drops products and services which don’t return a minimum standard of profitability.

      Read up, educate yourself. If you’ve followed electronics for more than the last few minutes, you know that we can’t even imagine the sort of products and players we’ll find in the marketplace in 3-4 years, which is the timeframe for the most drastic changes to Tmo in the proposed merger.

  • now_onTMO

    i love tmobile to death, but not really that worried about the merge…umm well except for higher rate plans on att if the deal ever finalized.. ughh

    is tmobile doing real bad here in the US or is it worse in europe that DT has to come up with such ridiculous idea of selling tmoUS? pffft..

  • Scwrath88

    So can someone please clear this question up then?:

    What is going to happen to T-Mobile’s 4G HSPA+ network, the network that they have been enhancing and boasting about and creating new phones specifically designed to run on.

    The info i’m gathering is that, its going to be dead technology is less than 2 years, and all the money customers have invested in new handsets will only be useful until the deal is complete.

    This sounds so bad, I can hardly believe it.

    • Anonymous

      You’re really overthinking this.

      HSPA+ was always only a bridge to LTE for T-mobile. Now that the companies are planning on combining their assets, it will accelerate the addition of LTE. At that time, HSPA+ would have gone by the wayside, too.

      More to the point, we’re discussing a 2014-2015 timeframe for the HSPA+ service to vamoose, which means if you buy your phones on a two year schedule, you’d have dumped the HSPA+ phone you have now, anyway, replaced it with another one, and finally been ready to swap out with AT&T for a third one.

      There is a lot of time between now and then, and a lot of dominoes need to fall first. Don’t sweat this. Enjoy your life.

      • Mark

        From some of the stuff that came out during the buyout announcement, I think HSPA+ was more a pier than a bridge. One of AT&T’s comments was that “T-Mobile USA does not have a clear path to delivering LTE.” Cite: http://www.tmonews.com/2011/03/breaking-att-acquires-t-mobile-from-deutsche-telekom/

        • Anonymous

          True, it was a stall offense while the company tried to figure out how to acquire the bandwidth necessary to bring out LTE, but it also served to satisfy the customers of Tmo. This is why there were frequent rumors of partnerships with Clear and/or Sprint, as Tmo sought the necessary bandwidth to roll out “true” 4G.

          AT&T,as we see, had the same problem, and the joining of the two companies solves the problem for both.

  • jlwstl

    damn i just got a htc hd7 with tmobile a month ago will that phone still work or will i need a new one

    • Patrix_star

      Only on Egde — 3G spectrums differ.

  • Heyyou488

    So if you have a phone supports: 850 MHz;900 MHz;1800 MHz;1900 MHz;UMTS/HSPA+: AWS Band IV / 2100 / 1900 / 850 Wouldn’t that work for AT&T and T-Mobile even after the buyout?

  • Dfireballwow

    GUYS READ IT AGAIN THIS IS GOING TO BE 2 YEARS DOWN THE ROAD.

  • If there are no providers that offer off-contract plans, I guess cell phone service is not in my future. I definitely won’t be a customer with AT&T.

  • AdrianG2

    Can the title of this article be fixed already.

  • AdrianG2

    Can the title of this article be fixed already.

  • AdrianG2

    Can the title of this article be fixed already.

  • Loco4e

    Is ATT going to give same price value of my current phone??

    I spend a lot of money $$$

  • vo5

    How about UMA?

  • Given that I have little (or no) doubt that I’ll be dropping T-Mobile/at&t (since there is little (or no) doubt that they’ll discontinue their PAYG plan(s) just as Verizon did with Alltel), then, yes, I’ll have to get a new phone (with some other provider [Sprint? Does Sprint even have PAYG?])… if I want any service at all.

    • Guest

      Idk where you are located, but what about Metro PCS??? 

  • Nick

    Looks like my new G2 will be nothing but a fancy media player when my contract expires.

    • AdrianG2

      LOL! Same here man

  • Anonymous

    Yes you will have to replace your phones, but at&t will offer comparable phones free with no contract. i work in an at&t sales call center and answered thousands of Alltel transitioning customer calls, the way it worked out was whatever type device you have, att offered a similar or comparable phone, allowed alltel customer to keep their really good rate plans, and did not make you sign a contract unless you want a device different from what they are offering you. so lets say you have the Samsung vibrant 4G when you time comes to select a phone, you will be offered an HTC inspire 4G, Atrix 4G or and another mid range smartphone, then they offered another 3 phones(6 in all)which were quick MSG phones and a couple flip phones. so they will give you options, you do not need to worry. HOWEVER!!!!!!! We are currently FORCING CINGULAR migrated customers who have REALLY good plans, change their plans and upgrade to a new at&t phone(three phones are offered contract free) and if they do not change their rate plans, at&t will finalize their accounts by MAY15TH!!!!! THESE PEOPLE ARE FUCKING PIST and i hate talking to them. I hope that this deal will not go through and dont think that it will, if it does, then at&t will probably get certain markets and will have to sell some markets to Verizon or sprint because that is what happened with alltel, the FCC forced at&t to sell a little less than half of the alltel customers to Verizon.

    • Anonymous

      Oh yeah, the Alltel customers HAVE to at least try the service out, you CAN’T refuse to receive a replacement phone, if you do, at&t sends you the one they feel is closest to what you got automatically. especially if you are under contract at the time. They give alltel customers 30 days to try the service out, and if you do not want to stay, you can leave and your contract from T-Mobile(New or Old) will be squashed WITHOUT ETF. Hope this clears up some stuff for some people. This is how at&t handled alltel, lets see how things shape up.

      • Northernborn76

        I thought Verizon bought Alltel. We had Alltel and Verizon became our new carrier after the merger.

  • Catsigh

    So it’s so long nice innovative phones, decent prices, good customer service and few dropped calls and God only knows how many jobs. hello metered internet service, higher prices, less service, less support, at&t attitude and lets not forget the over price over promoted iphone. Lucky us.

  • Bashaallen

    I hate AT&T. T Mobile has been a great company and I am very sorry that it is going away. Just when you think you have the best wireless service, the big blue and white monster eats it up

  • Pleasestopthebashing

    This is the problem with blogs, so many wrong opinions and everyone thinks they are experts providing uneducated opinions and write stuff that worry others. First, I am not an expert either but I do know people that work within T-mobile and AT&T, plus I am highly involved on mobile industry news. If you are worried please take 3 minutes to read this.

    First, I love T-mobile, it’s been a great company with its flaws as any other, but in my opinion it provides great value, the best customer service (not just my opinion as you can see all the JD Power Awards), and in the last couple of years they have delivered great devices and let’s not forget that Android introduced its first device via T-mobile. So do I want T-mobile to be bought by AT&T…of course not, but here are the facts:

    Although it’s not set in stone, AT&T will most likely be approved by the FCC and regulators to acquire T-mobile since they will have to pay roughly $3 billion to T-mobile if the deal does not go through…this tells you that AT&T lawyers and lobbysts have done their diligence to make a proposal that will most likely be approved…once again I am saying most likely, no one can know for sure, but it’s highly possible…you may not like AT&T but you need to know that they will not gamble $3 billion dollars.

    If this deal is approved, it will take about 12 to 18 months to get cleared by all authorities (FCC, etc.), therefore at this given time AT&T will start fine tuning the strategy to migrate customers, this may easily take 12 additional months or more since they have to integrate internal systems, phase out the T-mobile branding and educate consumers (both new and existing), and many more activities…all of this takes time.

    What does this mean for you? It will be about 2 or 2 1/2 years before you see the T-mobile brand phase out and have an impact on your plan or phone…more about this next.

    Most likely AT&T will honor your existing plans, this is known in the industry as having your plans “grandfathered” (believe me they have done it with other acquisitions, most importantly with Cingular)…remember they know that if they cancel your plans you may opt for another carrier. So, you will keep your existing plans for quite some time until they can not longer keep it on their systems, and by the time this happens you will most likely have better options as plans on the industry are cheaper or offer more minutes for your money…don’t believe me, just remember how many minutes you were getting on your plan 3 years ago.

    What about my cellphone/smartphone/device? Your phone will continue to work to make and receive calls, send text messages and use internet using EDGE in 3 years, 5 years…and many years from now…AT&T and T-mobile use GSM and this will continue to work for customers. For those customers that have a Smartphone or device where you need 3G access, AT&T will not turn it off for some time, most likely they will keep it until they are ready to transition to LTE…it’s not in their interest to shut down the 3G from T-mobile in order to overflow their towers with new traffic…this will be transitioned slowly. In regards to 4G, it’s a similar scenario, and AT&T will benefit from the existing coverage T-mobile has on its HSPA network expansion.

    If and when AT&T decides to shut down 3G or 4G, remember not anytime soon, those customers affected will be offered a comparable device at no extra cost to offset those customers impacted…of course they will ask you to extend your contract for 2 more years, but you’ll be getting a newer device…so its kind of like getting an upgrade…remember this may occur in about 2 1/2 years or even 3 years.

    So to wrap this up, yes I think this transaction it’s going to happen…and I don’t like it, I love my magenta and wish it stayed like this, but the reality is that in terms of revenue it is not providing Deutch Telekom the income they expect…it’s just business at the end. But I can only tell you is stop the negativity, stop thinking about leaving T-mobile now since it’s not going anywhere for some time, and take advantage of the awesome plans T-mobile has and the new devices coming up. It’s still an exciting time to be a T-mobile customer, and if at the end the unfortunate fate is to be transitioned to AT&T you will have the opportunity to see your options at that time…in my case I will keep my existing plan which provides the best value out there and I’m looking forward to the announced T-mobile G2X which was just announce… No way I’m leaving my beloved Magenta, I’ll stick till the end.

    • Anonymous

      Hmmm…accurate, thoughtful and reasoned. Writing like this has no place in this thread. If you can’t be hysterical and irrational, then keep your thoughts to yourself.

    • YouSuck

      you sound like an att rep ! please eat Sh$t

    • kracker

      All well and good for people with contracts. However as a T_Mobile customer with an Even More Plus plan, I don’t know what this merger means for me. Hell, the whole reason I got T-Mobile was for the plans. Will AT&T honor non-contract plans? Will they offer people on non-contracts plans new phones? Will they give us a contract with no hassle, considering my credit is not so good. So, I think the answer is no. Looks like I’ll be going back to prepaid and just get a tablet on Verizon.

    • Gambo

      Umm they do NOT grandfather anything. I know because I’ve just sought legal counsel for AT&T giving me a date of August 31st to get a new more expensive plan and phone or they will cancel my service. I have had a phone with them for along time and they want me off it.  Their Customer Service told me a few months ago they would’nt actually do it but that my reception would degrade. But today on the 10th  they shut my phone off for a few hours and when I called them they turned it back on . They said they did it so I’d call them and get me to switch over. The notice was August 31 for the service to be terminated and like I told the guy today,  if you give me a date of termination and then you turn it off 3 weeks earlier to get me to call you it’s unjustified especially since I’ve called them like 10 times since they notified me and I told them my postion and what I was planning on doing. My bill has never been late, no issues, so they really crossed the line today pulling that stunt.

      • Katie

        They shut off your service just to get you to call them?  That sounds highly illegal.  No surprise coming from AT&T, though.

  • Pleasestopthebashing

    This is the problem with blogs, so many wrong opinions and everyone thinks they are experts providing uneducated opinions and write stuff that worry others. First, I am not an expert either but I do know people that work within T-mobile and AT&T, plus I am highly involved on mobile industry news. If you are worried please take 3 minutes to read this.

    First, I love T-mobile, it’s been a great company with its flaws as any other, but in my opinion it provides great value, the best customer service (not just my opinion as you can see all the JD Power Awards), and in the last couple of years they have delivered great devices and let’s not forget that Android introduced its first device via T-mobile. So do I want T-mobile to be bought by AT&T…of course not, but here are the facts:

    Although it’s not set in stone, AT&T will most likely be approved by the FCC and regulators to acquire T-mobile since they will have to pay roughly $3 billion to T-mobile if the deal does not go through…this tells you that AT&T lawyers and lobbysts have done their diligence to make a proposal that will most likely be approved…once again I am saying most likely, no one can know for sure, but it’s highly possible…you may not like AT&T but you need to know that they will not gamble $3 billion dollars.

    If this deal is approved, it will take about 12 to 18 months to get cleared by all authorities (FCC, etc.), therefore at this given time AT&T will start fine tuning the strategy to migrate customers, this may easily take 12 additional months or more since they have to integrate internal systems, phase out the T-mobile branding and educate consumers (both new and existing), and many more activities…all of this takes time.

    What does this mean for you? It will be about 2 or 2 1/2 years before you see the T-mobile brand phase out and have an impact on your plan or phone…more about this next.

    Most likely AT&T will honor your existing plans, this is known in the industry as having your plans “grandfathered” (believe me they have done it with other acquisitions, most importantly with Cingular)…remember they know that if they cancel your plans you may opt for another carrier. So, you will keep your existing plans for quite some time until they can not longer keep it on their systems, and by the time this happens you will most likely have better options as plans on the industry are cheaper or offer more minutes for your money…don’t believe me, just remember how many minutes you were getting on your plan 3 years ago.

    What about my cellphone/smartphone/device? Your phone will continue to work to make and receive calls, send text messages and use internet using EDGE in 3 years, 5 years…and many years from now…AT&T and T-mobile use GSM and this will continue to work for customers. For those customers that have a Smartphone or device where you need 3G access, AT&T will not turn it off for some time, most likely they will keep it until they are ready to transition to LTE…it’s not in their interest to shut down the 3G from T-mobile in order to overflow their towers with new traffic…this will be transitioned slowly. In regards to 4G, it’s a similar scenario, and AT&T will benefit from the existing coverage T-mobile has on its HSPA network expansion.

    If and when AT&T decides to shut down 3G or 4G, remember not anytime soon, those customers affected will be offered a comparable device at no extra cost to offset those customers impacted…of course they will ask you to extend your contract for 2 more years, but you’ll be getting a newer device…so its kind of like getting an upgrade…remember this may occur in about 2 1/2 years or even 3 years.

    So to wrap this up, yes I think this transaction it’s going to happen…and I don’t like it, I love my magenta and wish it stayed like this, but the reality is that in terms of revenue it is not providing Deutch Telekom the income they expect…it’s just business at the end. But I can only tell you is stop the negativity, stop thinking about leaving T-mobile now since it’s not going anywhere for some time, and take advantage of the awesome plans T-mobile has and the new devices coming up. It’s still an exciting time to be a T-mobile customer, and if at the end the unfortunate fate is to be transitioned to AT&T you will have the opportunity to see your options at that time…in my case I will keep my existing plan which provides the best value out there and I’m looking forward to the announced T-mobile G2X which was just announce… No way I’m leaving my beloved Magenta, I’ll stick till the end.

  • Really, no 4G

    I just re up’ed my family plan via Costco. When contacted about the merger, and any implications to Costco customers, Costco support quickly wiped their hands of any direct involvement in the matter (nice to know that Costco customer care only goes so far).

    I had wondered how the news would affect T-Mo’s commitment to increasing “4g” infrastructure and had assumed any new builds would be brought to a standstill. I had no delusions that I would get 4g in my little 80,000 person suburb in the near future, and the purchase by AT&T affirms that suspicion.

    This article seems to give me a two year head start at finding another provider. AT&T is crap, and no amount of PI work will make me feel otherwise. I don’t want the I phone and I damn sure don’t want to be a part of a bad company. Maybe Metro PCS will have grown by then. Or maybe it is time to start buying phones outright and just go month to month? Ahh, in 2 years, maybe some new wimax plus 7g technology will be present and Obama will have mandated universal cell service.

    • Guest

      “Costco customer service”? There’s an oxymoron if I ever heard one.

  • Nyckat

    We finally got out of our God forsaken AT&T contract- I dumped the i-phones and we went to android phones with T Mobile . Love the customer service t mobile offers. AT&T was the WORSE ever- service/prices and accurate billing- every month there was an issue. THANKFULLY I found an OUT for the contract WHEN AT&T robs us of of customer service, and droid phones- not to mention the dropped calls of at least 10 per day in Manhattan- an no service in some places in the city (t mobile has wonderful coverage!) It is called a “Material Adverse” clause..here is T Mobiles quote
    T-MOBILE
    Changes to the Agreement or Charges. EXCEPT TO THE EXTENT PROHIBITED BY LAW, IF WE: (A) INCREASE THE CHARGES INCLUDED IN YOUR MONTHLY RECURRING ACCESS RATE PLAN, OR (B) MODIFY A MATERIAL TERM OF OUR AGREEMENT WITH YOU AND THE MODIFICATION WOULD BE MATERIALLY ADVERSE TO YOU, WE WILL NOTIFY YOU OF THE INCREASE OR MODIFICATION AND YOU CAN CANCEL THAT SERVICE WITHOUT PAYING A CANCELLATION FEE (WHICH IS YOUR ONLY REMEDY) BY FOLLOWING THE CANCELLATION INSTRUCTIONS IN THE NOTICE. IF YOU DO NOT CANCEL YOUR SERVICE BY FOLLOWING THOSE INSTRUCTIONS, OR YOU OTHERWISE ACCEPT THE CHANGE, THEN YOU AGREE TO THE INCREASE OR MODIFICATION, EVEN IF YOU PAID FOR SERVICE IN ADVANCE. IF THE NOTICE DOES NOT SAY HOW LONG YOU HAVE TO CANCEL, THEN IT IS WITHIN 14 DAYS AFTER THE DATE OF THE NOTICE, UNLESS A LONGER PERIOD IS REQUIRED BY LAW. EXCEPT TO THE EXTENT PROHIBITED BY LAW, CHARGES FOR PRODUCTS, SERVICES, OPTIONAL SERVICES, OR ANY OTHER CHARGES THAT ARE NOT INCLUDED IN YOUR MONTHLY RECURRING ACCESS RATE PLAN (SUCH AS DIRECTORY ASSISTANCE, ROAMING, DOWNLOADS, AND THIRD-PARTY CONTENT) ARE SUBJECT TO CHANGE AT ANY TIME WITHOUT NOTICE, AND IF YOU CONTINUE TO USE THOSE SERVICES, OR YOU OTHERWISE AGREE TO THE CHANGES, THEN YOU AGREE TO THE NEW CHARGES. VISIT OUR WEB SITE, RETAIL LOCATIONS, OR CALL CUSTOMER CARE FOR CURRENT CHARGES.

    They are , IMHO, directly hurting me by forcing me to be stuck with horrible customer service- not to mention buying a new phone- dumping my i phone because I no longer wanted to stay with ATT- having to “learn” to use a new phone- now going to have to give up my new phone because it’s 4g, and having to deal with ATT once again- when the buy out is done- end my contract- or take me to court!

  • Sylvia Allen80

    t-mobile customer service SUCKS since the AT&T takeover! I’m so going to Verizon!!!!!

    • Gentleman559

      Good luck. When they suck you dry like they did to our family you will regret ever going to Verizon. Mark my words.

    • Guest

      I have had only good experiences with T-Mobile customer service. And you’re talking to someone in the US who speaks English.

    • Guest

      I have had only good experiences with T-Mobile customer service. And you’re talking to someone in the US who speaks English.

    • Craigalderman

      No problems w/ TMoblie here in the past 7 years I have had them. Will leave though if ATT acquires!!! Have HATED ATT products and services for a looooong time. That is why I do not have ATT NOW!!!

  • Leighyanagihara

    i agree with sylvia my internet sucks i sometimes cant get on even though i have full bars and some of my calls dont even get through

  • Lyn

    I am NOT happy with this  Merge at all.  I have been with Tmobile over 10 years.
    I have a good repor with them.  I love Tmobile.  I am already compaing all the
    companies with each other

  • Lyn

    I am NOT happy with this  Merge at all.  I have been with Tmobile over 10 years.
    I have a good repor with them.  I love Tmobile.  I am already compaing all the
    companies with each other

  • Nerdacide

    Hey, When The Takeover Happens, I’m Switching To Sprint Because;
    A) Cheaper Than Verizon
    B) Faster Than AT&T
    C) I Love “Unlimited” Data Because With AT&t Unlimited=2GB Of Data & Verizon It’s 4GB

  • Jefferykazimer

    i have a samsung fascinate with verizon wireless…works great, bill isnt too bad, but only conspiracy i beleive in is that, 3g, 4g, 5g, etc….so dumb, just create a network that can be updated, and phones can receive firmware updates to change the different bandwidths or frequencies, or whatever…its just for the money, kinda like pharmaceutical companies, theres always a new pill here in america, then 6 months later u see a commercial about deadly side effects or repercussions….bwahahahah

  • Rayray

    I think that ATT phones should  be available for T-mobile customers, Ive never liked their phones and I always end up paying a high price for an unlocked ATT phone for my Tmobile service and it is quite expensive, I’m not upgrading and extending my contract unless they have a phone I actually want, For instance now I am searching for a cheap Brand new Torch 9810 and have to pay for it but if ATT would share their phones they would be reaping the benefit of a customer willing to pay for a phone she wants and extending my contract. Just an FYI….

  • Mrt

    This is why  

  • Evan J. Butler

    Hey if anyone can tell me how to get my Nexus S to have 3G that would be great my brother and all my friends have worse (as in not as now) phones as i do and they all have 3G not to mention we all have T-Mobile my brother and exgirlfriend both have 3G and they are on the same plan as me…kind confused and pissed off considering my bro and ex got free phone replacements and i had to pay straight up $600+ for my phone and i cant even use it the way it ws meant to be used (FAST) So please someone help me out..and if you cant maybe copy and paste this somewhere where some other people will see it and possibly be able to help.
    My email is SuperSayenEvan@gmail.com

    Thank You Someone In Advance!!!
    Evan J. Butler.