AT&T Says T-Mobile Deal Necessary For Spectrum Needs

The AT&T T-Mobile deal stories just keep on coming with this report from CNN stating that AT&T needed T-Mobile for spectrum needs or face their own growth problems.

Speaking in Orlando AT&T Mobility CEO Ralph de la Vega stated that AT&T would face significant challenges “in the short term,” without purchasing T-Mobile. No time frame was given as to when AT&T might face a crisis of spectrum shortage but acknowledged that AT&T had to make a move within the next 3 years.

“With this deal, we’re set,” says de la Vega says regarding the acquisition of T-Mobile spectrum.

“One of the key drivers (for the deal) was the need for additional spectrum,” de la Vega said on a panel at the CTIA Wireless conference. “It resolves the pending spectrum challenges that we’re facing in major cities.”

With AT&T hoping that a T-Mobile purchase will alleviate coverage troubles in major cities, it will still face a tough road in receiving FCC and DOJ approval.

CNN

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  • http://ashn.myopenid.com/ Ash

    Sorry, but I don’t believe anything coming outta ATT’s mouth.

    I’ll believe them in 2 to 3 years time.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Lucas-LeCompte/47912789 Lucas LeCompte

    so you mean with the money they are using to buy tmobile they couldnt put out towers? Give me a break.

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/CeeGee-Borela/100000183782060 CeeGee Borela

      its cheaper to buy the towers that are already there working and in use than figuring all the hassle of new infrastructure

      • http://twitter.com/SayaX Debra Phagan

        And getting through the red tape to approve them.

  • Anonymous

    Is there not a spectrum sale coming up soon as in the next few years?

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/CeeGee-Borela/100000183782060 CeeGee Borela

    Charlie Sheen was the one who orchestrated the deal… more net more porn

  • Anonymous

    I personally look forward to finally having fast reliable coverage pretty much everywhere for the amount of money that I spend every month just to make a few phone calls and browse the web and such. The phone I buy at the end of 2012 will be bonkers.

    Every carrier has dead spots even in big cities. Maybe not next year.

    • Marc6

      Pimpstrong,
      You are a big supporter of AT&T buy the many posts you make.

      Why are you now not an AT&T customer?

      AT&T gets everything out of this deal and Tmobile customer get little; accept the iphone option and more coverage in remote areas.

      AT&T had stated before it wants Tmobile 1900 Voice spectrum and the present Tmo 3G band of 1700 for it’s LTE 4g network.

      Tmobile customers get rude, poor customer service; 2 week max voicemail saves; no WiFi calling;MUCH HIGHER bills (about 35% higher); only 9-6 phone support.

      Also, I had Cingular right before it switch to AT&T. AT&T actually used to be behind T-mobile as a company. Cingular was bought by AT&T landline and the used the AT&T name (’cause it was more recognized). ANYWAY, Cingular/AT&T sucked then. I have stopped at AT&T stores many times to check things out and they still have all the same problems.

      • Senor Chang

        It was actually the other way around.

        At&t sold At&t Wireless to SBC (Southern Bell/BellSouth) who owned Cingular. AT&T Wireless customers were switched over to Cingular, and Cingular ended up being the biggest carrier as a result.

        Then the whole At&t company went ‘bankrupt’ and was bought out by SBC. After the buyout, SBC then changed their name, along with Cingular, to At&t.

        The irony about the situation is that SBC was a spin-off company formed from the fallout of the At&t anti-trust breakup from the 70s. Verizon was also a spin-off of old At&t as well.

        • Anonymous

          Legacy AT&T never went bankrupt, nor did it come close. Also, Verizon Wireless is NOT Verizon; Verizon only owns 50% of Verizon Wireless.

      • Anonymous

        I’ve always been the kind of person who doesn’t fight the inevitable. Lets say I totaled my car and need to get a new one, should I flip out or just do what I have to do to take care of business? I take care of business. My cell provider is no where near as important as something like this buyout and therefore I take the most optimistic approach as possible.

        Why would I be an ATT customer? Have I said one positive thing about todays ATT or 2012′s ATT?

        Unlike some, I don’t care about 2 week VM saves(hear it and delete it), I don’t need WiFi calling since I live in eye shot of a TMO(soon to be ATT) tower, I have already compared a family of 4 plan and concluded an exact 10% increase after the switch which I am able to live with in exchange for better (eventual) coverage, and I barely ever call customer support and if I do I can just call em during their hours. TMO does have really good cust serv and I believe everybody when they say ATT’s suck but what should I do about it??

        You’ll probably get a bunch of likes for pretty much calling me an ATT fanboy even though up until Sunday I could give two sh!ts about ATT either way.

        At the end of the day I don’t want Sprint and their horrible coverage or VZW where everything is more expensive. I myself can’t keep TMO from selling so should I flip out?

        • Anonymous

          I pretty much agree with you. There’s nothing we can do except handle business when the time comes. We will all have to make the decision to get AT&T phones and (presumably) re-up on AT&T contracts, or go to another provider. I worry about the cost of sticking with AT&T, especially their data rates, but perhaps that will change as a part of the merger (if they repurpose spectrum, then bandwidth is at less of a premium and perhaps prices can fall as a result). I don’t so much worry about calling customer service (that’s what forums are for), but I do worry about my value as a customer. I’ve been with T-Mobile almost a decade and that gives me standing in T-Mobile’s eyes. That will likely be the last thing on AT&T’s mind when dealing with me. The other thing I expect to lose is my amazing no-contract EM+ plan, as well as the equally awesome payment plan that lets me split the full price of a phone up on my bill. The two combined are better than contract subsidies, something I will likely have to go back to no matter which company I ultimately end up with.

        • Anonymous

          +100

      • Anonymous

        Honestly, getting more coverage in rural areas, or even across the map isn’t as trivial as you are pointing out, that alone is huge. You don’t think service has changed at AT&T since you’ve been a customer?

  • LBdaMercenary

    Sorry tmonews… But f%@k att its there in black and white “we need spectrum” thats the only reason for the tmo buy. So forget tmo customers we will continue to offer are plans $69 unlimited talk $10 text $25 for 2gb of web, deal with it. Thats why im bouncing when its all done att is just trying to save their own ass.

    • Anonymous

      U goin to Sh!tty Sprint or expensive(er) Verizon?

      • Aerofanbig

        Sprint will be the next home of serious Android, the other 2 are still going to be in pissing matches over the iPhail. Nexus, the EVO3D, EVO View, EVO 4G *which is still a good phone* and I bet we start seeing more Android based phones from LG and Samsung showing up there.

        • Anonymous

          If Sprint switches to LTE fast enough then they could be the only “T-Mobile” left and be a pretty good option. I hope they do continue to get the goods.

  • Aerofanbig

    Why do they have such spectrum problems if they are “more bars in more places” with plenty of towers?

    • Anonymous

      Bars != spectrum. You can have all the signal strength you want, but that doesn’t matter if there’s no open spectrum.

      Thank the government and the FCC for having such a dumbass method of allocating spectrum.

    • Anonymous

      Bars != spectrum. You can have all the signal strength you want, but that doesn’t matter if there’s no open spectrum.

      Thank the government and the FCC for having such a dumbass method of allocating spectrum.

  • Techguy

    “Spectrum” and “Towers” are two different things. You can have plenty of towers and still not have enough spectrum especially when dealing in WCDMA. Carriers are having bandwidth issues rather than coverage issues. When you are trying to provide 10-20Mb/s per sub, its not the towers that is the limiting factor.

    • Futscherr

      “Spectrum” and “Towers” are two dependent things.
      By having more towers with lower power, the spacing of each cell site can be closer. The cell site covers a smaller area allowing you to reuse the same spectrum in another cell site that is much closer.

      • Techguy

        yeah, and then you have to pay that much more rent to be on that tower. You have to buy that much extra equipment. You have to pay more monthly payments for power and telco. You will have to have more capacity in your central office. This is assuming you can even get the leases for all the new towers you would need. You are decreasing your per user earnings which will drive prices up. Tower density isn’t the answer.

  • TMoFan

    As upset as we all can be at AT&T it was really DT who wanted to get rid of T-Mobile and get out of the US market. I’m sure when the rumors were swirling about T-Mobile/Sprint, AT&T swooped in to take out a competitor and prevent the threat of a combined T-Mobile/Sprint. So anything they say now will be put in the best light as possible ahead of the approval process. The fact is they had this money they could have put into their own network to beef it up.

    • Brian

      It NOT that simple to beef up your own network. Each town or city has to give approval for new towers and many HATE towers. It’s all time consuming. T-mobiles voice network is 100% compatible with AT&T right NOW. They go through building more towers and getting city board approval when you can buy a pre-built system?
      They also get the Tmobile 3g band for use in their LTE network (they wanted this also).
      DT (tmobile parent) gets to dump Tmobile but the Tmobile customers get shafted in the deal.

      • Anonymous

        Right on the money. Honestly ATT would be a fool NOT to buy us out. I’d hate to see what would happen if Sprint bought us. Our phones wouldnt work PERIOD once they flipped the switch. Then how mad would everybody be?

  • plumbermaz

    Could they not have a spectrum/tower sharing agreement and leave everything else the way it is?

    • Suzy

      If the deal falls through…T-mobile gets spectrum from AT&T and they both get more sharing agreements. Tmobile will look better if the deal falls through. ATT also has to pay tmobile 3 billion if it fails.

      This is actually a win-win for Tmobiles parent company.

      • plumbermaz

        well… thats what i’m hoping for…..but a gint like AT&T will not let the deal fll through that easily.

        • Suzy677

          No, they have big money to pay off politicians. But this is clear in the anti-trust laws. They are removing competition in a big way. It pretty much destroys NOT only Tmobile but Sprint cannot complete with the two remaining companies. Sprint has voice its own worry about competing against two giants. Anti Trust laws are very clear but never underestimate the ability to bribe politicians.

        • Anonymous

          You’re right. AT&T has deep pockets and obviously inroads into the FCC. Even the AFL-CIO is siding with AT&T because they don’t like that Tmobile wouldn’t unionize.

          But, Wall Street always reigns supreme. If AT&T shareholders see this as a negative expense this deal will not go through. This is turning into a PR nightmare for AT&T and going to cost more money by the day.

        • Anonymous

          If people keep posting everywhere that they are not going to stay with AT&T, and the shareholders realize this will not result in more subscribers it will really shake their stock price.

          Stay positive everyone! We need to convince AT&T shareholders that his “merger” is too risky and too expensive.

        • Anonymous

          An accelerated LTE roll out on the Nations Largest network will be much more valuable than the small segment of “posters” b!tching about how they will leave.

      • Anonymous

        I think this could be a real possibility at this point. AT&T shareholders still have to approve the deal. So far there stock is up only .8% but Deustch Telecom’s is up 14%. Heck, Verizon’s stock is up more on the deal than Big T. Verizon’s shareholders think it will allow all the prices to go up, i.e. more profit for them!

      • Deff

        yeah but its a lose-lose for the customers, it gets accepted, were with at&t… if it isnt accepted… well we havent been making any progress over the past year so were gonna be behind everyone else anyway. Although… you never know because T-mo DID just make those towers 42 mpbs in Vegas, orlando, and NY… maybe they know something we don’t?…. maybe the deal WONT go through..

  • Meagan

    Sadly TmobileUSA marketing would not do, what AT&T marketing is planning to do with Tmobile towers, expand and flourish… TmobileUSA should have revamped their marketing department a long time ago. TmobileUSA has the ball, but are not running with it.

    If 35M TmobileUSA customers expect to share the pie with 95M AT&T customers, the service quality will not improve for Tmobile customers. Have you had those days with TmobileUSA where you try to make a call and your mobile states “Network Busy”? If that can happen now, what will happen when 95M AT&T customers take over our Tmobile towers?

    Just saying…

    • Ex-SKLX09 User

      I’ve never had an issue making a call or text.
      when i try to call an att phone though, they drop out every third time or so.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1322800544 Joe Pacheco

    It’s funny how AT&T does not have money to expand their coverage & data speed, but they have $39 billion dollars to buy out t mobile.

    • Brian

      It is easier (and actually cheaper) to buy a pre-built network than ‘build out’ your own.

    • Anonymous

      It’s not about money. You can have eleventy-trillion dollars available, but still not have additional spectrum to buy. In big cities like NYC and SFO, the allocated spectrum is clogged from multiple uses, and the government hasn’t freed up more. And it’d take a decade to make that happen anyway.

    • ATL guy

      Did you even read the article?

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000288521317 Anthony Scott Pancurak

    well i may just leave when they merge, i had att and i do not like them at all, they hung up on my with customer service soo many times giving me a rude feedback and rude attiude.. i am not joking i will leave if they merge, even if they say its the same service, same phones

    • ATL guy

      I think you’re just joking.

  • Anonymous

    TMO(DT) and ATT worked out a deal that was mutually beneficial…This isn’t the Big Bad Empire striking down the little Rebellion…..DT expressed interest in getting out of the US Market, ATT needs spectrum..It’s like 2 puzzle pieces that fit together perfectly (from a business standpoint)…Unfortunately, the result of this means less competition (fewer choices) in the US market

  • ATL guy

    This just illustrates just how little t mobile cares about its customers and service.

    • the man behind the curtain!

      LOL

  • Alterans

    I think we just all need to take a seat back and wait to see what happens. As far as I know, all contracts will be honored that are entered into before Ma Bell takes over. It’s business as usual until then. We all know that AT&T has it’s problems right now. One easy way to think about how this merger could be great in terms of service reliability and quality for both T-Mobile and AT&T customers when it comes to wireless spectrum is to think of AT&T as a 10 gallon bucket overflowing with 11 gallons of customers. When you combine T-Mobile’s 10 gallon bucket of spectrum with its 6 gallons of customers with AT&T’s subscriber base, what you have is a network that is no longer overloaded. Thats my take on the whole situation, and I think it has the potential to be a very good thing. Hopefully an infusion of T-Mobile customer service and engineering expertise would maybe send a few more of those JD Power awards for excellence in customer service Ma Bell’s way… after the merger of course. Now, lets see about those higher prices with AT&T.

    • Brian

      AT&T is most likely going fire most of Tmobile phone support). AT&T thinks they are better than everyone. They won’t adopt any of Tmobile technology or customer service. Their own bravado ruins them.
      AT&T will gobble up bandwidth that normally goes to T-mobile customers (most of it to support the Iphone and Ipad). Yeah, I signed with T-mobile so I could support Iphone users.

      You said the key word “Contract” They will honor contracts. The longest contract is 2 years. After that you pick an AT&T plan (30-40% jump in price)

      • Anonymous

        Tmobile’s own site doesn’t say AT&T will honor any contract. It says “we will honor”, as in as long as Tmobile exists Tmobile will honor contracts.

        Honestly though, it would be pretty stupid for AT&T to not honor contracts.

        • remister

          They will for sure not honor my non contracted unlimited data plan, that’s for sure!

        • Alterans

          A contract is a contract. If AT&T does not honor T-Mobile contracts after they take ownership of the company, then they would have to let you leave without an ETF.

      • Dbell9

        True. 100% agree

    • Anonymous

      Good point.

      Would be awesome if T-Mobile Call Centers just changed names to ATT call centers with employee’s and standards intact. When your business grows by 1/3 over night you will need more CSRs to handle them.

      Sadly though TMO customers will go from a clear bucket barely half full to a murky one that only has a couple gallons left to spare. Good thing millions will abandon ship!!

      • Anonymous

        AT&T uses overseas call centers. How will they justify paying for US call centers to their shareholders. Sounds good in theory since a major part of Tmo’s brand is their customer service, but AT&T has never mentioned the “great customer service” as a reason to buy Tmobile even once.

        • Anonymous

          Oh that sux. Well, it was wishful thinking.

        • Drew

          All the more reason to oppose this deal with everything we have. I can understand both sides of the issue here, and I agree that we could potentially end up with better service here. But,what about choices? That’s what we’re talking about here people. Anytime there are fewer choices, we all suffer; bottom line.

      • NO

        T-mobile also uses overseas call centers. Everyone does. However in T-mobiles case that is generally for prepaid flexpay and some tech care.

  • Anonymous

    This fake spectrum argument has got to stop. Why is AT&T saying that they plan to turn off “Tmobile spectrum” when the deal completes and users will need to buy new phones. Because they are sitting on piles of spectrum. Just last week Dish Network filed a petition with the FCC declaring “unfair competition” for AT&Ts purchase of Qualcomm spectrum.

    They want the towers. Cell phone towers are incredibly hard to get built due to “not in my backyard” attitudes in major cities. They plan to use the towers with their own spectrum.

    AT&T clearly said they are moving forward with LTE technology. T-mobile hasn’t even invested in this area to have “spectrum” or those frequencies.

    I’m sorry people but everyone is getting snowjobbed on this one.

    The spectrum argument is the part of the marketing for the FCC and Obama administration and nothing more.

    • Techguy

      They are not turning off T-mobile spectrum. They are reusing it for future LTE. LTE would be built on existing AWS spectrum of T-Mobile (currently being used for HSPA+) and AT&T. Current 2G coverage from T-Mobile would be used for existing HSPA+ purposes withing AT&T’s network. Many T-Mobile phones already have 1900MHz capability for HSPA+, so these phones would continue to work as intended.

      Yeah, AT&T has a lot of spectrum but you have to have enough bandwidth in the same bands nationwide. That is where the issue is.

      • Anonymous

        I am so confused now. Tmobile even reported part of the reason they are selling is they didn’t have any plans or resources to roll out LTE.

        Can you explain it better?

        Bandwidth is definitely a problem for AT&T with their drop calls and crazy data usage.

        • Techguy

          Okay, so part of the confusion when dealing with spectrum is that most people don’t understand that spectrum of a given bandwidth can be used for multiple purposes. T-Mobile did not have the resources to roll out LTE. AT&T could start rolling it out but not on a nationwide level. So here is what we have currently:

          T-Mobile has 1900Mhz spectrum that is being used for their GSM network. T-Mobile also has AWS spectrum for their 3G/HSPA+ network. T-Mobile had not other spectrum for future LTE rollout. They would have to completely turn off the GSM network and reuse that spectrum.

          AT&T uses a combination of 850Mhz and 1900Mhz spectrum for 2G and 3G. AT&T purchased AWS spectrum in the same auction as T-Mobile and planned to use that for future LTE expansion.

          The problem is this. AT&T needs more AWS spectrum in order to rollout a nationwide LTE network. So, they purchased T-Mobile who has the largest chunk of that spectrum. Why does AT&T not reuse their 1900/850 spectrum for LTE? Well, because customers are still using it and they cannot roll everyone off it and reuse it quickly enough.

          So here is what will happen if this merger happens. AT&T will begin turning off T-Mobile 3G equipment which frees up AWS spectrum. This spectrum will be combined with AT&T’s current AWS spectrum to launch LTE. Some of T-Mobile’s existing GSM spectrum will likely be reused to boost AT&T’s 3G/HSPA+ spectrum. My guess is, the FCC will make AT&T give up some of the acquired 1900Mhz spectrum of the merger.

          Let me just say, I’m not a fan of this merger just for the fact that I may be out of a job after it happens. That being said, there is a potential for a much improved network for both companies. The coverage will likely surpass that of Verizon’s.

        • Anonymous

          Wow techguy,impressive! I knew part of it is enabling AT&T to transition while supporting current users and you confirmed that piece.

          My understanding about the phones is they will still place calls and texts but during the transition of the towers the data functionality won’t be available on AT&Ts network because it will EDGE access only. For many people, the smartphone without data/internet function is unusable and a waste but I suppose still functioning.

          I’d hope the coverage surpasses Verizon’s for that price!

        • Anonymous

          Sticky.

    • Anonymous

      What?

  • Anonymous

    So AT&T NEEDS us? Oh yeah I so hope this doesn’t go through now so that AT&T can fall to the ground.

  • Derrickps3

    NO, I HOPE TMO REJECT THE OFFER

    • http://twitter.com/mlococo Michael Lococo

      The boards of both companies have already approved it… they’re just waiting on Government approval… but since they are playing the rural access card it will probably move right on through.

  • http://twitter.com/Deke218 Deke218

    I’m gonna sit back and wait to see how this turns out. I would think Government regulation would not allow this deal to go through but the government is never on the side of the people. If its good for the corporate bottom line, its gonna happen – damn the customer.

    • ATL Guy

      companies by other companies all the time. This allows companies to prosper and geeee I wonder how many thousands of people are employed and will be employed by this?

      • that guy

        kinda like when they bought out cingular… then fired everyone

        • TMOmatt

          Good ole “Ma Bell” bringing all of their “Baby Bells” back under one roof. I thought there was a reason the government forced them to split into several smaller companies and to think they are being allowed to merge back together and buy other companies too sickens me.. I work for T-Mobile and when we found out Sunday with the rest of the world that AT&T was trying to buy us it looked like a funeral. We are somewhat nervous about our futures. The call center I work in is one of the largest T-Mobile has and we have been told that AT&T plans on keeping all T-Mobile employees. I bleed Magenta and AT&T will never change that!!!

  • MIKEEEEE

    more the reason for someone to make another higher hostile offer in cash and in euros.

  • http://twitter.com/mlococo Michael Lococo

    When asked how they will treat the newly acquired T-Mobile customer base the head of AT&T responded with this video. http://youtu.be/g-nuxFZmmjg

    • Anonymous

      That was awesome, thanks for that.

    • Ldominguez1986

      nice, only tmobile just took it is the @$$

      • ATL Guy

        They did?
        Well no one forced DT to sell of Tmobile USA.
        Actually if this deal fails Tmobile USA stands to make some extra coin so I wouldnt say tmobile is taking it in the ass.

        • Gyno Guy

          Are you saying that T-Mobile is a pussy?

  • Jwest

    Wow so basically, T-Mobile could have sat tight for a little longer, and see AT&T’s spectrum troubles and either bought them out or let them fall.
    Instead, it happened the other way around.

    • Death_to_ATT

      basically, tmobile shoulda sat, and let att sink and burn, and they would be more powerful… but nope, money f*cked us all again

  • Techguy

    I’m not sure if they have thought about this yet, but a huge loser in this merger would actually be AT&T’s wireline service. T-Mobile is a huge consumer of theirs paying millions of dollars a month for transport to their cell sites. Now, most of that transport will go away due to collocation of towers.

  • Techguy

    I’m not sure if they have thought about this yet, but a huge loser in this merger would actually be AT&T’s wireline service. T-Mobile is a huge consumer of theirs paying millions of dollars a month for transport to their cell sites. Now, most of that transport will go away due to collocation of towers.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1025378056 Zhaoxin Ding

    One word: Horsecrap

    • English Teacher

      Actually, “horsecrap” isn’t considered to be “1 word”.

      It’s a conjunction; that was flagged by my spell check.

  • http://twitter.com/YanivC Yaniv C

    Sooooo basically AT&T is no going to oversubscribe T-Mobiles network.
    This sucks big time.

  • Wilma Flintstone

    AT&T: T-Mobile, We need your Rect, I meant Spectrum
    T-Mobile: I don’t think you can afford my “Spectrum”
    AT&T: Oh no? How’s $39 billion sound?
    T-Mobile: OMG!!! You’re joking!!! My Rect, Spectrum is yours.

    And thats how we got to this point people. AT&T just has to get the Astroglide and the Trojans, oh wait, they already have the Trojan, his name is Humm.

    • ATL Guy

      WTF? What do you mean about Humma and Trojan?
      LOL you think one man can cause DT to sell off USA Tmobile?
      You dont know much about the business world apparently.

      • Anonymous

        And you don’t know much about humor, apparently.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_RKOFXGTD7JPYHD4RM4DIPRFBDM J

    So essentially, AT&T bought T-Mobile just for their own needs?

    • Ldominguez1986

      who else would they buy tmobile for??? No company would spend 39 billion to help someone else out

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_RKOFXGTD7JPYHD4RM4DIPRFBDM J

        Good point.

    • Ldominguez1986

      who else would they buy tmobile for??? No company would spend 39 billion to help someone else out

    • Techguy

      The buyout isn’t all about spectrum though. For $39 billion, I’m sure they could have found a willing seller of spectrum for less than that. Heck, they could have purchased someone like MetroPCS to get the same spectrum. By purchasing T-Mobile they also get 30 million subscribers (give or take whatever changes happen by the time it goes through) and a work force to pick apart to meet their needs.

      • Anonymous

        I think they are trying to get rid of the competition. This purchase kills two birds with one stone. The other bird being Sprint. Then they can just “keep up” with Verizon.

        • ATL Guy

          LOL!
          Well genius you cant actually, “get rid” of competition if they are willing to be gotten rid of!
          Maybe tmobile doesnt give 2 shits about us!
          YA LOL the evil AT&T riiiiiiiiight

        • Anonymous

          Yeah it’s not a hostile takeover, but I didn’t say that!!! It’s still getting rid of the competition, and hurting Sprint. That wouldn’t be evil anyways, just a part of business– but is it legal? We shall wait and see.

        • Anonymous

          Well, “genius,” willing or not, they’re gone.
          Sounds like they still got rid of them to me.

          If I want to get rid of my car, I don’t have to trick somebody into buying it.
          They buy it willingly, and I still got rid of it. QED.

      • Anonymous

        The buyout is definitely not really about spectrum… at least from the ATT side. TMobile needed spectrum not ATT. For ATT this is about a cheap way of getting 30M customers, more towers and a way to sell more smartphones to TMobile customers and eliminate a competitor that kept a lid on prices. Since ATT will be getting spectrum they will take advantage of it for sure and it will make the LTE transition easier. The fact that ATT is willing to screw all existing TMo customers with smartphones by repurposing the AWS bands that TMobile used and obsoleting all existing TMobile smartphones is a measure of how little choice ATT thinks customers will have.

  • kaepos

    This doesn’t solve any real problems. In another 3-5 years, growth and limited spectrum will force another “merger” of mobile telecom companies. If the trend is to just buy out another company, the public will have other problems to deal with.

    The correct procedure would have been to invest in their infrastructure and tighten up their own FCC-granted spectrum to allow for larger bandwidth/data/communications.

  • Sgt. Cell

    Competition is always good, we had a choice for GSM carriers, when and if T Mobile go’s away, no choice. AT&T will tell T Mobile customer to bend over or kick rocks. I take pride in being a T Mobile customer, not a follower to get the Iphone or be part of “The Network”.

    • Anonymous

      I’m a bit confused as to how, for the vast majority of consumers, it matters that AT&T now will have no GSM competition. Most consumers don’t give a crap about the technology; they care about price and service, period. Besides, it’s not like you can move 3g phones between the two, even if you get them unlocked.

      AT&T never even took T-Mobile very seriously as a competitor anyway.

      • jarjon76

        It matters because AT&T would have the power to charge practically anything they wanted if they were the only GSM option. T-Mobile may not have been a “serious” competitor, but they are another major GSM option for consumers, esp with their affordable pricing. You need competition to keep prices affordable to the average consumer and to keep companies like AT&T honest. Not sure what’s so hard to understand about that.

        • Anonymous

          That doesn’t make a lick of sense. If AT&T tries that, people will just switch to Verizon or Sprint. Average consumers won’t stick with AT&T just because it’s GSM.

        • Wrong

          Wrong and misleading. With GSM, customers can switch phones easily by switching sim cards. That’s the advantage. Verizon and Sprint is a hassle if you need to borrow someone’s phone or use a backup phone because yours is not working or you want to try out other phones. It’s just a better technology.

        • Death_to_ATT

          yes and no, no one realy cares about gsm or whatever, they may know or not know the difference… basically what drives the world is “how can i save the most money?” att prices go up, they say ‘fck this’ and walk to another carrier…

          also, there were rumors saying that if this were to happen, att must drop prices due to lack of competition, if they obey this, who knows, but truthfully, if it gets sh*tfaced, people are walking

        • Aerofanbig

          AT&T could probably get away with lowering their advertised contract prices big time and then hidden/surcharging you up the ass to get the actual payment prices back up high and still be kosher with regulations that required lower price because of a monopoly. Higher data use, charge extra for texts at certain times of day, “connection” fees for phone calls. I’m sure they have a whole garage full of extra hidden charges they can pop out

      • Anonymous

        I think you underestimate the number of business-oriented customers who do understand that GSM is a must-have for international travelers. Granted it’s a small percentage, but those customers also tend to buy the more expensive plans because they often live or die by their connectivity.

        The bitter upshot in this case, of course, is that AT&T sucks monkeyballs in terms of other features useful to more savvy businesspeople … tethering and data plans and so on.

        The GSM monopoly may not matter to a lot of people, but that doesn’t make it right.

    • laniece

      The courts have to approve or disapprove the merger. Who knows if the courts will deny the merger because of the impact on the economy (due to any lay offs) or deny because AT&T will essentially be monopolizing the GSM, UMTS, GAN, HSDPA network. AT&T and T- mobile are the 2 major company’s that use this technology. Sure there are smaller companies I.E. Cincinnati Bell. They are probably buying space from either T-mobile or AT&T. Someone in another area won’t be able to benefit from a local sector. Verizon Wireless is one of two major U.S. carriers that use CDMA technology, the other being Sprint Nextel Alltel and Metro PCS. Am I wrong at saying this is a borderline monopoly? Hmmm food for thought.

    • Death_to_ATT

      i agree… not everyone wants an iphone and att needs to respect that… if u look at their phones, they have two of the shittiest android phones, shitty nonsmartphones and an iphone… sadly, i think those non smartphones are better than the iphone, but you get my point

      on another note, tmobile is a great carrier and cingular was eaten up, and now tmobile; they fear a monopoly but since att funds politicians (demos’ and repub’s) they basically ‘own’ the government, and it will UNFORTUNATELY go through… im upgrading my phone soon, knowing that it will settle and deal with it when the time comes, but i swear, the day att tells me either join their plan, tries to raise my rates, taxes me w/ hidden charges, or tells me to buy our phones w/ our plans, im leaving that minute… ill pay the fee, idc.

      i suggest you people keep going on with your ‘mobile’ lives, it will settle and everything; and take notes and sight sources so you can argue and (even possibly sue????) att if they try to charge u with hidden fees or raise ur rates and not give a reason, or a good one.

      • Inquiring Mind

        Which handsets are you referring to as “two of the shittiest android phones”?

        Inquiring minds wan to know.

  • Youngt82

    PLEASE NO DAMNN DEAL!!! LET T-MOBILE BE INDEPENDENT FOR NOW AND RELEASE THE HOTTEST AND BEST PHONES WITH THE FASTEST 4G NETWORK!! LOL THAN AFTER A YEAR OR TWO THEN T-MOBILE CAN SEE WHAT THEY WOULD NEDE TO DO WHETHER STAY INDEPENDENT OR MERGE A DEAL WITH SOMEONE

    • Anonymous

      T-Mobile USA was experiencing financial difficulty. Only in a fantasy world would they stay as is and release the hottest/best phones, etc. The choice was either (A) a sale, or (B) shrinkage.

  • Anonymous

    DT had to get rid of TMOUS, for reasons I mentioned before.

    As much as TMOUS seems to us like a good investment and venture for DT (since it has always made money), many of you may not know that for DT its adventure into the U.S wireless market has been a big bust.

    You talk about Sprint suffering when it acquired Nextel, consider this:

    – In year 2000 DT paid $51 billion for what was then one of the smallest carriers in the U.S. (Yes, that’s BILLIONS.)

    – By my calculations, in today’s dollars that means DT paid about $63 billion for TMOUS.

    – Just for perverse amusement, adjusting AT&T’s $39 billion offer to year 2000 values, that works out to DT selling its $51 billion company for $32 billion.

    – Not adjusting either number, DT is trying to sell TMOUS for 40% less than what it paid for it eleven years ago.

    – Even assuming T-Mobile made $500 million in net profits each quarter (it did not), DT can’t get rid of TMOUS fast enough. It also considers itself lucky that AT&T is so desperate to get TMOUS spectrim licenses that it offered that $39 billion, I submit an offer almost double what TMOUS is valued (I say TMOUS is worth about $20 billion on a really good day).

    By the way, these numbers are why DT/Sprint could not reach a deal. Sprint, IMHO, was looking to steal TMOUS (probably for about $15 billion, at most) and there was no way DT, with the memory of what it paid for TMOUS 11 years ago, was going to let Sprint steal DT’s U.S. operation by accepting its low ball offer.

    It will be very interesting to see how this all pans out over the next 18 months. By end of summer DT will know which way the wind is blowing in Washington and all concerned will know the liklihood of the deal being approved.

    If Washington yields to the immense pressure the carriers, public, Congress and consumer organizations are putting on regulators to not allow the sale, I wonder how DT will react. For sure, DT will be angered that it can’t unload TMOUS and for all intents and purposes will be “forced” to continue doing business in the U.S., something DT clearly no longer wants to do.

    When I said last year to “hold on, 2011 is going to be a wild ride for us all” I was referring to the great new handsets coming out. I sure wasn’t including DT abandoning ship into the mix.

    Guess I’ll revise my statement:

    Hold on, 2011-2012 is going to be a wild ride for us all :(

  • Levin49

    Please sign this petition to stop this from happening…. PLEASE!!! http://www.change.org/petitions/stop-the-att-t-mobile-merger

  • Levin49

    I want to debunk this and what AT&T is saying: http://finance.yahoo.com/news/ATT-talks-of-spectrum-apf-1900180595.html?x=0

    AT&T says T-Mobile deal driven by spectrum shortage, yet it has plenty left

    Peter Svensson, AP Technology Writer, On Monday March 21, 2011, 5:49 pm EDT
    NEW YORK (AP) — AT&T says it wants to buy T-Mobile USA to acquire more airwaves to support the growing use of data-hungry devices such as the iPhone. But if that’s the case, the T-Mobile deal isn’t much of a solution.
    Having the right to use airwaves, or wireless spectrum, is essential to phone companies. More spectrum means more phone calls and more data can be carried in the same area.
    But AT&T Inc. already has an ample supply of unused wireless spectrum that it plans to use to expand its network over the next several years. And much of T-Mobile’s spectrum is already in use, so the deal won’t result in fresh airwaves becoming available.
    “The notion that there’s a spectrum crisis has been greatly exaggerated for (the) political purposes of a few select companies like AT&T,” said Derek Turner, research director at public-interest group Free Press in Washington.
    In fact, AT&T has made great strides in addressing network congestion in such cities as New York and San Francisco not by tapping its unused spectrum, but by upgrading its cell-tower equipment.
    AT&T has reasons besides spectrum gains to pay $39 billion for T-Mobile. For one, it hopes to persuade many of T-Mobile’s customers to switch to smartphones, which carry higher monthly fees. That’s an argument that appeals to investors, but not to regulators at the Federal Communications Commission and the Department of Justice, both of which will be reviewing the deal.
    In a conference call with investors Monday, AT&T CEO Randall Stephenson said the company is facing “impending spectrum shortages in major markets.”
    “AT&T has been at the leading edge of mobile data growth on our network as a result of supporting more smartphones, more tablets, more e-readers than anyone else in the country,” he said. “This has created an urgent need, an ongoing need, for significantly more spectrum to support this explosive demand.”
    Mobile data usage has indeed exploded over the last few years, but AT&T’s own figures indicate that growth is slowing down now that smartphones are already in many hands.
    Speaking to investors and journalists after the deal was announced, Stephenson said several times that the company’s mobile data volumes have increased 80-fold over four years — since the launch of the iPhone. But he also said he expects data volumes to grow eight to 10 times over the next five years, a much lower rate.
    AT&T and its chief competitor, Verizon Wireless, have healthy spectrum holdings, thanks in large part to a government auction of old TV airwaves in 2008.
    Sprint Nextel Corp., the No. 3 wireless provider, has huge amounts of spectrum available to it through a partnership with Clearwire Corp., of which it also owns the majority. That spectrum, too, is largely unused, but some technical considerations make it more difficult to exploit than Verizon’s and AT&T’s holdings.
    AT&T has enough airwaves that it agreed to transfer some of its spectrum holdings to T-Mobile USA, along with a $3 billion breakup fee, if the deal is blocked by regulators.
    Even if the deal doesn’t increase the amount of spectrum available to U.S. phone users, there are some gains to be expected in terms of the amount of data and the number of calls that can be carried.
    That’s because combining the spectrum holdings of AT&T and T-Mobile would let AT&T make better, more efficient use of T-Mobile’s holdings.
    Today, if AT&T’s data network is overloaded in an area, the traffic doesn’t move over to T-Mobile’s network, even if there’s spare capacity there. But that would happen after the two companies combine, resulting in better utilization.
    But the logical extension of that argument is that we could make even better use of the airwaves if we had only one wireless company in the nation — a monopoly. The economics of the business already point in that direction: The No. 3 and 4 carriers, T-Mobile and Sprint, have been struggling for years against the industry leaders, AT&T and Verizon Wireless.

    • WTF

      http://mobilizeeverything.com/ ….visit the spectrum portion of this website…tmo has way more spectrum per 1mil users…adding att users will significantly reduce the amount of usable spectrum for current tmo users

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/CeeGee-Borela/100000183782060 CeeGee Borela

    $25mil in CASH and $14mil in STOCKS… maybe DT si slowly trying to eat up AT&T from the inside if they get 51% ownership since 14mil buys them a whopping 8% of AT&T

    • Sluggo12

      Not million….Billion with a B

    • http://twitter.com/GOPMatt Matt Macri

      Its $39,000,000,000.00 BILLION not Million…and 8% stock in a company the size of AT&T NOT jusylt at&t wireless is a huge chunk.. Oh and they also have an option for another 4billion depending o the difficulty of the fcc maneuvers….

    • http://twitter.com/GOPMatt Matt Macri

      Basically they paid 11billion dollars for 8% of a HUGE company. Ticker symbol (T) att not just attwireless they got 8% of.. and they get 4billion more if the FCC and the DOJ gives them anything other then a smooth deal so 29 billion cash cuz we all know they’ll give them a hard time even though it’ll be just for show ya know…….

      • Maginot

        That is 8% of the AT&T dividend….it will be billions to its shareholders without the hassle of chasing the market.

  • Anonymous

    vipshopper.us

  • http://twitter.com/xxmonkey92 Tulio Mesa

    People who are making the new Phones should add the ATT Bands just in case the merger does go through.

    • Techguy

      They have been adding them even before this merger was thought of. The reason is, T-Mobile had plans to migrate off some of their GSM spectrum and reuse it as 3G spectrum. AT&T’s 3G spectrum just happens to be the same. That is why some phones, like the Vibrant, already have the necessary frequencies to work on AT&T’s 3G network.

  • Parkchristoph

    13 year T-mobile customer. Will cancel all phone lines immediately if this merger is approved. Would prefer to live in a cave and send smoke signals than ever allow my mail box to be infected by AT&T. Had them for land line service more than 15 years ago and it took at least 5 years to completely heal my life from their sickness. Never again…..NEVER!

    • NotADramaQueen

      Aren’t we being a bit melo-dramatic?

      You’ll be able to retain your rate plan (grandfathered) when the buyout completes at least in the near term. If you want to throw a fit in protest nobody will care and you’ll just wind up paying more and lose out on the free smartphone upgrade that AT&T plans to give you and all your lines.

      • Parkchristoph

        Already have a 4g smart phone, great rates, and great customer service . If I have to take a downgrade in a service which I purchase, and given my past experience with AT&T and their current track record, this I certain to be, I will most happily cancel and give someone else a shot at my business. Still remember business with AT&T like a bad case of the flu. Once is enough, thanks anyway.

      • Xtreamski

        you actually think AT&T is going to do that? hahaha. i dont know whats more pathetic, you’re blind faith in an evil as$hole of a company or the fact that they actually got you to believe them to begin with. AT&T is not going to do anything nice or kind for anyone.. its AT&T. enough said. shouldnt be long until someone crashes their entire network. you would be surprised what you can do with a computer. its only a matter of time before they piss someone off real good.

  • TMoEmp

    T-Mobile Employees – now is a great time to sign up for the union. WHEN the merger is approved, I’d rather have a union represent my job, than be alone, jobless… AT&T has one, why shouldn’t we?

    http://www.tuworkers.org/index.php

    • Techguy

      Yeah, so I can pay some guy who knows nothing about me personally and what I want to “represent” me? No thanks.

    • i420BBerryBum

      unions are usless. they do NOTHING except take money out your check every week. f*@k you and your idiot union.

  • Sluggo12
  • Death_to_ATT

    tmobile is being ripped off… att has trillions of dollars… they with that money, could just make new towers to get more spectrum, but just like other big companies, they take the easy and cheap way out, with no regard to people’s thoughts… they could spend double the money for new towers, or half and buy out a decent company and screw everyone in their path…. the hell w/ att; im upgrading my phone w/ tmobile, but when att tells me to upgrade to their plan im going to verizon… and if their service is even worse, fck it, ill pay the early cancellation fee… ATT SUCKS

    • Astonished

      You have proven that one doesn’t have to have as much of a hint of a clue, so as to write in here and prove that perhaps Mommy & Daddy might have produced an intellectual genetic downgrade.

      Are you even from this planet?

      I mean, if you think that a corporation can just buy real estate for tower placement and that that automatically transforms into (the equivalent of non FCC type approved) additional frequency spectrum usage, then perhaps, I could interest you in some waterfront property in Florida. Pay no attention, when others warn you that it’s useless swamp-land.

      IF it was as easy as you (and probably the tooth fairy and the Easter bunny) think that it is, do you really think that the thought tank at at&t would have just constructed additional towers?

      And news flash – Einstein – at&t isn’t going to be able to exist without your $70.00 a month.

  • Anonymous

    Google should have bought T-Mobile!
    G-Mobile would have been huge!
    All nexus phones/tablets released on tmobile. deep integration for every google venture. google voice, etc
    I would have welcomed my google overlords.

    • Anonymous

      Unfortunately Google knows that if it wants distribution through the AT&T’s and Verizon’s of the world the last thing they’d want to do is buy T-Mobile.

      • Anonymous

        Google would still allow manufacturers to release their phones to others carriers.
        Htc, motorola, lg, samsung make money off selling hardware.
        Much more that what google would make through searches.
        It could work.

  • http://twitter.com/sir1jaguar gigolo

    I had AT&T wireless & landline (10 years) and its super expensive (fees & taxes are more than other companies) then I gone to tmobile last year with vonage as my landline – more than half cheaper & much better service with unlimited data (free tethering on my nexus s) for just only $20 & $30 unlimited worldwide messaging of any kind ( send & receive ) 4 lines (family plan) with the fastest mobile download & upload now then my landline has unlimited calling to 60 countries with unlimited faxes too. Can AT&T do that? ( price wise & great fast service & unlimited)
    Theres lots of morons now that they just open their mouth or typing in the internet without thinking & finding the fact.
    ALL STUPID PEOPLE SHOULD GO BACK TO THE CAVE… THEN DONT GO OUT!!!

    • English Professor

      And, with your grammatical and sentence structure, it seems that you are as you refer to others as (“Stupid”) and you’ve been nominated to lead the mass exodus to the caves, that, in your case, will hopefully possess a 1-way entrance that’ll retain you as a permanent guest, until such time as you sharpen your sophomoric writing style to at least, 2nd grade level

  • Aortiz2k

    FCUK ATT

    • Sister-Slurper

      I’d rather try your sister – AGAIN.

  • Zee4lau

    i hope this merger gets denied

  • Anonymous

    If it happens, which is almost certainly will, at least we will have a nice LTE network to show for it. Though prepare to get reamed from behind on pricing.

    http://www.transdgtl.com

  • Guest

    When AT&T Mobility CEO Ralph de la Vega says “With this deal, we’re set” what he means is that with this deal, they will be completely eliminating 33% of their competition with a single stroke.

    Whenever these big deals go through the spineless FTC, competition is reduced, and prices always go up – especially when the companies “promise” they won’t. Less competition means higher long term prices, period.

    The solution to AT&T’s problems in not buying other telecom providers. Their solution is to innovate. Using their spectrum more efficiently is the answer. But they choose to no longer invest their huge profits in ground-breaking R&D.

    They can afford to spend 39 billion on a buyout. Can you imagine what 39 billion in engineering would accomplish?

  • oedveron85

    I can see ATT losing 34 million customers soon…