T-Mobile Data Plans Revamping November 3rd

To be honest, I’m still trying to make sense of these images we received but as expected, T-Mobile is preparing a revamp of their data plans beginning November 3rd. That $10 200MB plan we talked about on the 16th? That’s in there as well as a little bit of data plan overage talk which leads back to the whole, “what happens after 5GB of transferred data” question?

T-Mobile handsets will now be assigned to a specific category which will help decide which data plan will be necessary for use. Feature phones are exactly what you think they are, the lower end non-smartphone. The Standard Smartphone will be “medium range handsets that have strong multi-media capabilities but where the web is not a central component of the phone.” Premium smartphones are exactly what they sound like, “high-end phones that are optimized for the web and multi-media experience.”

As expected, premium devices will require a smartphone plan that will be offered at $30 for Even More customers and $25 for Even More Plus subscribers. All other smartphones will also take advantage of these plans with the lowest offering of $10 for 200MB rounding out the options. So tiered pricing it is T-Mobile…guess it was inevitable.

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  • threetee14

    my mom has the cliq and she uses under 200mb… my question is, does the CLIQ count as a standard smartphone?

    • JB

      Yes.

    • BlackHawk

      Because its powered by Android, and Android is “optimized for the web and the multimedia experience”.

  • Tabasco

    Keep this in mind too,if your and Android power user and have a rooted phone and wanna change roms. “On the fly”,those roms alone are normally 90megs and up. You’ll go through that 200 megs in no time with just roms,that doesn’t include downloading mp3s or anything else that might take data.Ill stick with my $30 a month for data.

    • http://robert.aitchison.org Robert Aitchison

      Arguably a “power user” wouldn’t be downloading new ROMs OTA.

  • Gina

    One good thing that others have failed to mention in reference to the 200 MB plan: Overages won’t exceed $30

    So don’t freak out if you happen to use a grip of data one month. You won’t be billed hundreds of dollars in overages like you would on Verizon.

    Go check out Verizon’s new $15 / 150 MB plan and see what the overage penalties are.

  • Derek

    Well data is really unlimited. As stated before, you are never guaranteed a speed. If you look at the terms and conditions of your contract on any carrier, there is a limit to data per month although it’s presented as unlimited. Most carriers limit is 5GB. After that u no longer get data until the next month. All tmo does is slow ur speed but u still get data therefore it is unlimited still.

    • ItsMichaelNotMike

      Well despite the endless discussion on this, you continue to toe the T-Mobile line and logic.

      But being throttled to Edge renders your phone useless on all the high-bandwidth features the phones are capable and advertised to do (Google Maps, video streaming, uploading videos, downloading files, etc.)

      There’s a class action in a California Superior court where the Plaintiffs are alleging the above, while T-Mobile is defending along the lines of what you echo.

      Why don’t you do this test, turn off your phone’s 3G (switch to using 2G). And then use the phone’s features that require 3G or better. Report back on your experience.

      • 2FR35H

        @Michaelnotmike

        I agree 1000+

      • JB

        You’re an idiot. That “5GB limit” is FCC regulation. Do your homework before you start talking like you know what you’re talking about.

      • 2FR35H

        @JB

        Do you want to provide proof of that?

    • BlackHawk

      T-Mo was at 10GB until very recently. They just switched, or will soon be switching to the 5GB max.

  • Spokker

    The most efficient way to allocate a resource such as bandwidth is with the price mechanism. Charge a per MB or GB price from the beginning and allow users to set their own caps in their account settings. Hell, I’d offer the opportunity to set a daily, weekly or monthly cap. It would be the most you would be charged on your bill and if you never reach the cap, you get charged only for what you used. This is the ultimately way to maintain efficiency and offer choice to the consumer.

    Whether they would charge $5, $10 or $15 per gigabyte is partly up to what their in-house economists and statisticians have to say. They have those, right?

    But they will never implement this. That word “unlimited” means a lot of money to cell phone companies, even though your 3G connection is essentially dead once you reach an arbitrary cap.

    • Spokker

      I’ll use myself as an example. I don’t care if I reach the cap. I’ll hit 3, 4 or 5 gigabytes easily. Turn on WiFi? Why bother? It’s in my best interest to use 5 gigs worth of bandwidth because I’m paying $25 whether I used 1 byte or 1,000,000,000 bytes. It’s in my best interest to use as much bandwidth as I can because the marginal cost of each unit of data usage goes down as I use more.

      Switch to a per MB or per GB price system and suddenly I’m watching my data usage. Suddenly I’m switching to WiFi. One month I might use 500 megs and another month I might go all the way to 5 gigs, but it won’t be the frivolous usage as in the other scenario.

      Unlimited plans, even if you impose a cap, still creates an incentives for customers to use as much data as they can.

      • Monkey

        I would have thought it was in your best interest to get the best throughput that you can. I would switch to WiFi at home just because it is faster.

        I imagine that you are paying for your WiFi too. Why wouldn’t you want to maximize the value of that investment?

    • Vibrant addict

      That’s the most brilliant idea ever $5 per GB

  • Derek

    There was a lawsuit filed against T-Mobile not too long for overages on an unlimited plan for data. TMO won that case because of what’s stated in the terms and conditions.

  • Bill

    Bottom line, no more unlimited data for everybody living wherever high speed is available. Verizon Wireless at the end of the month rolls their tiered data plans out, AT&T has already tiered their service and we’re next! It’s a copy cat league!

  • RoTo

    Let’s see.

    Premium phones = lowered “unlimited” limit from 10GB to 5GB for the same price.
    Average phones = new choice of $10/200MB if you don’t need “unlimited”.
    Cheap phones = lowered unlimited to 200MB for the same price.

    I don’t get what the tmobile employees are raving about. Yes one more choice, but two more squeezes. It’s like that guy that loosened the belt but tightened his tie knot and his shoe laces… or like it has been said one step forward and two back, the famous crab walk.

    BTW, real choice is to let customers decide how much data they want to use.

    I have been deciding whether to dump ATT for tmobile. But now I’m gonna look more to Sprint. Their corporate discount is twice as much and I have wimax here.

  • motocliq owner

    So I can go to eny tmobile store buy a g2 or mytouch and use 1 gb internet for less what is one gb enyway and how much internet would I use.

  • DatNizzle

    So no more $10 unlimited data for feature phones? I need to sign my GF up for it today then, she’s got a Nuron.

  • userfriendlyme

    ok this is disappointing im not sure why the 200mb plan can’t be offered on all smart phones. Just becasue i have a g2 doesnt mean im going to use more data.

    • eYe

      Yes it does. G2 will go through 200mb without you touching it in 2 weeks. Trust me, you want unlimited with any newer Android phone.

      • trmacdonal

        That’s just not true. My wife had a G1 and now a G2. She has always used between 75 to 125 MB’s per month. The G2 doesn’t use anymore than the G1 did.

      • http://robert.aitchison.org Robert Aitchison

        Somehow I doubt that, my G1 is running 2.2 and I’ve only gone over 200MB twice in the past 12 months (and just barely both times), I’m under 100MB as often as I’m over it.

        And far from not touching it, I use the phone constantly, but of course most of the places where I use data features I have WiFi available.

        Not sure what would be different about a “newer” phone running the same software that would cause it to magically use a lot more data.

    • BlackHawk

      Being on WiFi doesnt count towards your data plan. So if your on WiFi more than your not, of course your data usage on network will be lower.

  • Tyrone

    Well, they seem to be right on top of scheme to charge people. Too bad they are so delinquent in updating their Android offerings to 2.2 due to all of the non-removable hardware specific bloatware they want to customize for each model.

  • lauren

    I disagree with some of these comments. My dad uses the MT3G Fender Edition and last month he used a whopping 97mb. I think it’s incredibly unfair that they won’t allow “premium” handset users to at least try the 200mb a month plan.

    I think I will call anyway when the new plan hits and bully my way into one for him. I mean, 6 years as a T-Mo customer has to count for something, right???

    • Jrsykind

      My wife uses 180-220 mb a month on her G1. I use 1.2-1.8 gb a month with a G1 (use Google Listen for podcasts)

  • TonyJohns

    Gawd people! The plan is unlimited! They only throttle the data, not cut it off! You are still getting data, how hard is that to understand. If you don’t like it, guess what!? You can CHOOSE not to sign up or stay with TMobile.

    • The Hammer

      +1

      No body can ever be happy.

    • ItsMichaelNotMike

      I repeat… throttle YOUR phone down to 2G and try to access the Net, upload a video to YouTube, use Google maps or watch a Netflix preview, watch MobiTV, a movie, play Pandora, etc. and report back to us that under 2G (EDGE) that you still have the same “unlimited plan 3G user experience.”

      • TonyJohns

        Haha..even with full HSPA+ you are not guaranteed a seamless data experience. I repeat AGAIN; T-Mobile is still providing you with data. That data is subject to network congestion, phone location, time of day etc. AGAIN, if you don’t like it, trot over to the other cell phone carriers who are doing the same thing.

      • evil

        Im almost always on edge with my mt3g. It works just fine. Yeah its not as nice as 3g but I’d much rather be cut down to edge than have my data cut off or be charged for going over my limit. I don’t know how much bandwidth I use every month but I know its substantially more than the average user. Anyway my whole point is that 3g is great but edge works too and I’m just happy tmo. Isn’t gonna cut me off or charge me when I go over…

  • Deadeye

    I don’t understand why they are saying that the G2 can only get the unlimited plan when it’s running stock android. I would think that the Charm or other mid-range android phone could potentially gobble up just as much data at the same rate as the high end android phones. The only high end android phone that I think may be the exception would be the upcoming MyTouch 4G and it’s video calling function.

    • Deadeye

      Where does the CLIQ & DEFY fall in this picture?

  • Nathan

    So the new minimum EM+ plan for “premium smartphones” is 500 minutes, unlimited text and unlimited data for $65/month? Remember 18 months ago you could get 300 minutes, unlimited text and unlimited data for $65/month AND get a $250 phone subsidy?

    I’m really disappointed in T-Mobile. Neither ATT nor VZW prevent premium smartphone users from choosing a lower-tier data plan, and it makes T-Mobile completely uncompetitive for customers who want that.

    Here are the minimum plans for my usage, which is 300 minutes (total, including nights, weekends and M2M), 30-60 MB of data, and 1000 text messages:

    With phone subsidy:
    ATT with 450 minutes, 1500 texts, 200 MB data — $70
    VZW with 450 minutes, 5000 texts, 150 MB data — $75
    TMO with 500 minutes, unlimited text & data — $80

    No phone subsidy:
    TMO prepaid with unlimited minutes & text, 100 MB data — $50
    TMO EM+ with 500 minutes, unlimited text & data — $65

    Between the G2 locked-MMC issue and this, T-Mobile has really shot themselves in the foot lately. I thought pretty highly of them for being the first to introduce Android and then offering the progressive EM+ plans, but I guess that hasn’t made them any money because they’re back-pedalling on customer choice pretty rapidly.

  • http://robert.aitchison.org Robert Aitchison

    How can they stop you from adding a 200MB plan to a line and then using that line for a smartphone?

    My wife will probably be getting her first smartphone next month (probably either a G2 or a Vibrant) but no way will she use more than 200MB of data (We have been married almost 18 years, I know my wife).

    Maybe what I will do is add the 200MB plan to her line while she still has her current phone (POS Motorola ACTV (W450) – not even a feature phone but in theory it could use data).

    Buy a new phone myself and then swap her SIM in.

    Obviously TMO can tell, if they want to what kind of device is being used, but will they look and will they care?

    • 2FR35H

      @Michaelnotmike

      You will most likely receive a note saying that your plan is not compatible with the device.

    • JB

      The device warranty tool T-Mobile uses converts the IMEI of the device the SIM is in into the system so it will default all available data plans for that single device and no others.

      There are ways around it, but not for 75% of the CSRs you’d talk to.

      Also, T-Mobile has set protocols for devices, such as Android vs. Phonefirst that won’t work with each other. If you swap SIMs, the web simply won’t work unless you have old features like that $5.99 t-zones feature that used to exist.

      Hope that helps in your quest. :)

      • http://robert.aitchison.org Robert Aitchison

        Hrm I’d be interested in finding out about those ways around it, if we could save $15/mo it would add up over time.

      • JB6464

        BS !
        They said Web2Go would’nt work with my HD2 but it does. All you have to do is change the APN settings from TPC-T-Mobile TO internet2.voicestream.com and your using 3G internet speeds all for $9.99/month instead of the $30.00/month data plan that T-Mobile says you Must to have to make the phone work properly.

  • Patrick

    I can’t believe that Tmobile can say that my inlaws BB 8520 EDGE only phones are “premium” devices!

  • Patrick

    Here’s what I want to know. How about customers that have “not so smart” smartphones that now qualify for the $10 data plan and currently have the $30 thrust upon them. Will Tmobile allow them to “downgrade” to the new plan to fulfill that part of their plan requirement?

  • some internet dude

    i wonder if they will force people to give up the 30 unlimited

    • MattB

      Give it up for what? This makes no sense… $30/unlimited is still being offered.

  • Sulu600

    Screwed again. I have a MT3G, aka Premium Smartphone, but I am stuck with 90% GPRS data speeds with some EDGE and very little 3G when I travel. I have never gotten close to 200 MB per month because I spend most of my time on WiFi. It takes over 2 min to load a Google Map page on GPRS speeds and a look at my usage looks crazy with all at only .002KB. But I can not take advantage of the $10 dollar plan. I would love to be penalized for going over 5GB and getting upgraded to EDGE speeds (o;

  • ItsMichaelNotMike

    Well didn’t I say repeatedly that T-Mobile will go to tiered data and will by December 2012 do away with unlimited plans. Except it will be in small steps.

    (See my previous posts.)

    This is not a matter of whether or not YOU could not or would not use 200MB or whatever, the real news here is that T-Mobile is moving toward AT&T’s pricing model and will be doing away with ALL unlimited data plans.

  • ItsMichaelNotMike

    Some of you also don’t see what T-Mobile is doing because they are doing it in small steps. Someone should make a timeline of the changes to understand the process.

    In any event, data is the only thing saving carriers from ruin. But T-Mobile, as others, have discovered that most users don’t use data and given a choice they won’t sign up for it.

    So what does T-Mobile (and others) do? They make data plans mandatory. You want to use a fancy phone, even one you bought on eBay, for example, you are going to have to buy a data plan (which some of you don’t seem to understand, it’s a sizable purchase, anywhere from $600 to $840 over two years).

    Want to understand how much is at stake. Assume 30 million T-Mobile customers are forced to buy data plans from $25 to $35 each. Times that by 24 months and you see why carriers are making data plans mandatory, but also providing less service for those prices.

    And you are gullible if you think that T-Mobile, AT&T and Verizon are doing a great thing by offering $15 data plans. For one, the limits are artificially low, assured that users will incur overage charges, and second, just how long do you think it will be before even the $15 data plan price to increase to $20, then $25, and for “premium data” to shoot up to $40 and $50.

    Mark my words, people will soon be opting for POTS (plain old telephone service)from the prepaid carriers, especially if T-Mobile forces data plans even on its low-end feature phones.

    I’m telling you, in this tanked economy people are going to go back to using cell phones for calls, maybe checking e-mails, and that’s it.

    We are contemplating selling all our smartphones and getting simple prepaid call plans from Boost or someone else. (They have e-mail only phones that are fine).

    On my Even More + plan I pay full price for phones. On my EM+ plan I am paying $3840 for two years service. While I do sell my smartphones recouping the price I pay for them, I say to heck with paying close to $2000 (with taxes) a year simply to play around on the Net, download some games, etc.

    • some internet dude

      Well It all sounds bleak, so everyone just bend over and take it.

    • JB

      Do you not realize that Smartphones are turning more and more data dependent? Look at the G1; the phone won’t even work normally without the data plan.

      Here’s an idea, don’t buy a $500 SMARTPHONE if you don’t use it for what it’s developed for.

      Once again, I’m saying you’re an idiot.

      Cheers.

      • some internet dude

        I’d go fix your teeth, I’m sure there in bad shape been a brit and all.

        Cheers

    • Dan

      T-mobile does not require a data plan for smartphones. Only if you want a subsidized phone do they require a smartphone data plan. Buy a G2 full price and use it on the EM+ plans with voice and text only, they allow that.

    • Steve

      @itsmichaelnotmike, I agree with what you are saying. I hate to say it but owning a smartphone nowadays is a real pain in the neck and not worth all of the hassle to me! with all of the data plan requirements, (by the way those didn’t always exist. I have a dash that I use strictly off wifi), usage caps, throttling etc etc etc. It is getting ridulous even if you pay full price for the equipment.

      I really think I’m going to buy a basic flip phone for calls and texts and an Ipod touch for web browsing and email. that way I don’t have to constantly worry about new rule or restriction TMO or the carriers are going to impose upon me as a customer.

    • BlackHawk

      Cant argue with any of that. I dont like it, but its hard to argue. Makes $60 a month for prepaid BB much more appealing.

  • 2FR35H

    I swear most of you act like the girlfriend or wife that gets beat and raped on occasion that tries to justify that its their own fault and their better than their last abusive ex.

  • http://TheMixtapeCity.com TheMixtapeCity.com

    Ahh.. Imma abusive mofo when it comes to the data plan. Luckily im on an employee account and this doesnt effect me for one second.

    *sent from rooted Vibrant wifi tether. Its such a vibrant thing ::in qtip voice::*

  • MW

    doesn’t make sense to go by the phone, needs to go by the user then it makes sense. Just because somebody has a low end phone doesn’t mean they won’t be a power user; likewise just because somebody has a high end phone doesn’t mean they will be a power user

  • TonyJohns

    Look, times change. Everything is not going to stay the same forever. This is not doom and gloom or the end of the world. Owning a cell phone costs differently than it did years ago. Honestly if you don’t like how things are being done, you have the freedom of NOT owning a cell phone or going with a regional low cost cell provider, which I’m sure most of us have in our respective areas. If not, then I guess you will be stuck with no phone or a landline.

    All major cell phone carriers will go to tiered data pricing. That’s just the way it’s going to be. Data is where the money is at (at least for cell phone companies).

    As long as the USA cellular model remains prevalent (pick your cell phone provider based on the phones they have and phone subsidies) this trend will continue. Only when you take the actual cell phone out of the providers hands, is when you will see prices come down and become competitive.

    Think about you, you buy a (full price) iphone, droid x, mytouch HD etc. and you get to pick which company you’d like to use your new phone on(T-Mobile, Sprint, AT&T or Verizon). That’s when the power is in YOUR HANDS. Because now the cell companies have to focus on their network and plan prices if they want to attract customers, not which exclusivity cell phone deal they can get.

    It’s like when we buy our computers and TVs. We buy a computer and PICK which internet service provider to use, we buy a TV and PICK which cable provider to use.

  • Mc T

    I wouldn’t mind dealing with Tmo’s new tiered pricing if it included teathering. I don’t like that sprint & verizon charge an additional fee for tethering (in addition to the data plan). I only need to tether occasionally for work (when now open wifi is availalbe) and don’t want to pay monthly fee just for tethering – it’s not worth it for the infrequent use. (Full time wifi for a laptop is always preferred for a laptop anyways – tether is just a short workaround)

  • Zuben

    Exactly what will be going on with grey market phones? It looks like they are lumped in in certain categories.

  • Rome

    Well this is useless… So if you have a phone worth having a data plan for, you can’t take advantage of this new 200 MB plan, even though many many people who have myTouch’s, G1′s and G2′s do not even use 200MB a month.

    Thanks for nothing T-mobile, Scratch my plans to buy myTouch 4G’s now.

  • bloggingpig

    Let me reiterate:

    VIRGIN MOBILE USA
    $25 / month = 300 minutes + UNLIMITED DATA/TEXT/EMAIL
    Android phone? Yep.

    T-Mobile? Ripoff.
    AT&T? Ripoff.
    Verizon? Ripoff.
    Sprint? Can’t say nothing since VM USA is part of Sprint.

  • maximum

    i was thinkin to buy G2 and use it without data plan.

    if i buy it by nov 2nd, can i keep it without data plan? or i’d be forced to add data plan? i know some people still using $5 data plan made contract years ago.

    • DatNizzle

      I bought a Cliq using my GF’s upgrade online. It did not put a data plan on her line, and I used the phone for a month on my line. I had t-zones for $5. The browser would say I needed an upgrade. I just used wi-fi. Some apps worked some didn’t. I then added the $25 web text pack to my line. They never tried to put a data plan on my GF’s line. But that was last year so…

  • DatNizzle

    Check this out, quick question
    My GF has a Neuron. I put the $10 umlim net on her phone yesterday. Since the chart has the Charm and the Optimus in the same class as the Neuron. Now if I get her one of those phones, is she grandfathered into the unlimited plan? According to them she’s not going up in class, she should be able to keep that plan right?

  • Mike Larry

    will the nokia e73 be eligible for the new $10 data plan ? thanks

  • bitooo

    will i be able to cancel my contracts with tmobile early w/o termination fee because of this? i really hate tmobile…. and asurion, but thats another story.

  • snr

    more than likely if we are on this site we already have t-mobile….
    So it may be in our best interests to stick with our grandfathered plans.

    However the major cellular carriers copying each other is getting tiring and they fact that they keep putting the squeeze on their customers with not truly giving an unlimited data plan will eventually come to an end when someone sues their ass.

  • Mark

    FAIL…massive massive FAIL…so sick of these cell phone companies.

    I was looking forward to this new $10 plan but OF COURSE there has to be this stupid system where they put pricing options for the different categories.

    I was really excited to finally be able to pick up a smartphone, specifically the G2, and now I read this and the full $30 data plan is still going to be required for this “premium” phone. Lots of BS. Thanks for nothing Tmobile.

    I haven’t updated my phone through tmobile in probably 4 years (i’ve bought unlocked phones off Ebay), and basically there is no reason for me to EVER upgrade through them until they stop this mandatory $30 data plan nonsense.

    Hopefully I can find an unlocked G2 on Ebay for a reasonable price in the next few months.

  • some internet dude

    Great now that tmo is going tier, I have no reason to like they anymore. Been with them since they where called voicestream. Welcome to the douche bag club Tmobile.

  • BGK

    They didn’t learn anything from AT&T. The HUGE iPhone sales this summer were due in large part to the lower tier smartphone data option. A 65.00/month bill is much more palatable than an 80.00/month data plan. When the majority of people never use more than 200 mb/month they should give that option to all smartphone users. This sells more phones, gets more people on contract and makes more money. But T-mobile seems to be afraid of missing out on the price gouging that will go on until OEMs start getting the balls to make handsets that have both ATT and AWS 3G frequencies.

  • dt

    I have a cliq xt with no data plan right now. I’d only get a data plan if it were the $10 for 200mb, not going to bother if I have to pay $30

  • jennifer

    you guys comparing t-mobile to other networks don’t have a clue what ya’ll talking about, you own a android phone, google “verizon unlimited data cap”, “t-mobile unlimited data cap”, “sprint unlimited data cap”, & “at&t unlimited data cap” for goodness sakes before comparing their data plans

    t-mobile and at&t are the only ones using this unlimited limited data plan crap

    i currently own a nexus one which is a google experience phone, rumor is motorola or samsung are creating the next google experience phone, i hope it’s sprint or verizon, cause that’s where i’ll be heading to for true unlimited data

    • J-man

      FYI verizon also has data caps, at 5 GBs and that is for smartphones. I am not sure if they are throttled down or not, I suppose.

  • jennifer

    also check out their new plans for tethering

    http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2010/10/26/t-mobile-to-debut-tethering-plan-on-november-3rd-14-99/

    $15+ to tethering with no additional data, so it’ll still be counted towards your 5gb caps, what a joke

  • lemmyslender

    Any suggestions on my best course of action?

    Currently on EM+ 29.99 +$10 unlimited web = $40. Data ranges from 100-400MB average of 220MB.

    Should I switch to EM 39.99 + $10 unlimited web = $50 (but on contract for 2 yrs), I assume I’m safe from having to pay more once in a contract if I don’t make any changes.

    or

    Stay on EM+ ($40). Will I be forced to change data plan at next monthly cycle after Nov 3? In which case it would be $29.99 + $25 = $55

    Any ideas?

    • dt

      from what I know, I don’t think you can go from an EM+ plan to an EM plan. You have to get a new account with them. If you really want to try this, talk to a CSR, they might switch you

      • dt

        nevermind, you are allowed…but back to your original question, I think you are grandfathered into the plan you had, even if you’re not on a contract so I don’t think you need to do anything

  • Bill

    The plan I saw was the “5GB Overage Free Plan”…5 gigs costing $50.