Un-carrier 12 is T-Mobile One, the end of data buckets and arrival of one unlimited plan

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Surprise! Turns out that that mysterious conference call that T-Mobile scheduled for today was to discuss Un-carrier 12.

Today T-Mobile unveiled T-Mobile One, a new data plan that brings an end to data buckets. The new plan includes unlimited talk, text, and high-speed 4G LTE data, as well as the Un-carrier benefits like Simple Global, Mobile Without Borders, and T-Mobile Tuesdays. Unlimited mobile hotspot is included, too, but at 2G speeds.

Pricing for T-Mobile One starts at $70 per month for the first line. The second line is an additional $50 per month, lines three through eight are an extra $20 per line, and lines nine and beyond are an additional $30 per month. One thing to note is that those prices factor in AutoPay. If you’re not enrolled in AutoPay, each line costs $5 more per month.

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There are also several add-ons for T-Mobile One:

  • Tablets: Add a tablet to your T-Mobile One plan for $20 per month per tablet.
  • Wearables: Add smartwatches and other wearables for $5 per month at 2G speeds.
  • Stateside International Talk: Unlimited calling to landlines in more than 70 countries and mobiles in 30 countries for $15 per line.
  • Smartphone Mobile Hotspot: 5GB of high-speed mobile hotspot use for $15.
  • HD Video: T-Mobile One offers unlimited video streaming at standard definition, which T-Mo says is typically DVD-quality (480p). If you’d like video up to 4K, you can add it for $25 per month per line.
  • High-Speed International Data: Data passes are available if you’d like high-speed data while traveling abroad.

T-Mobile One will be available to postpaid customers starting September 6, while prepaid customers will be able to sign up “in the future.” Existing T-Mobile subscribers can keep their current plan if they’d like.

To compare, the current Simple Choice unlimited plan is $95 per month. That plan includes 14GB of high-speed tethering, though, and you don’t need to pay extra for high-definition video streaming. Adding those features to the new T-Mobile One plan would bring your total to $110 per month with AutoPay ($115 without), and that includes just 5GB of high-speed mobile hotspot. If you care at all about high-quality video or mobile hotspot, you’re probably better off with sticking to your current plan.

If you want an unlimited plan that’s not T-Mobile One or just a cheaper way to get onto T-Mobile (the current plans start at $50 per month for 2GB of high-speed data), you’ve still got a couple weeks to sign up for one of the existing Simple Choice offerings.

 

UPDATE: Here’s a statement from T-Mobile COO Mike Sievert regarding T-Mo’s current Simple Choice plans:

“We’ll begin to phase them out right away on Sept. 6 when T-Mobile One launches. We haven’t announced an end date for each of the plans, there will be a time period while we get our customers and our team transitioned, but we will begin phasing Simple Choice out on Sept. 6 when this plan launches. And some of the plans will remain for a short time thereafter.”

UPDATE 2: T-Mobile CMO Andrew Sherrard says that the 2GB/$50 and 6GB/$65 Simple Choice plans will stick around and that T-Mobile One will only be replacing the current $95 unlimited plan. “We’ll still have the rest of the Simple Choice lineup, you can still go buy that $50 plan,” he told PCMag.

 

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  • besweeet

    The best part IMO is probably about tablets: “You can also add your tablet to T-Mobile ONE for just $20 a tablet per month and get Unlimited LTE data on that device too. That’s the nation’s first and only unlimited LTE data offer for tablets!”

    And the worst part: “With T-Mobile ONE, even video is unlimited at standard definition – typically DVD quality (480p) – so you can stream all you want from ANY video site out there. For customers who want higher definition video, T-Mobile ONE has you covered too with an HD add-on for $25 a month per line.”

    So if you don’t mind 480p video and 2G hotspot speeds, this isn’t bad. I’ll be holding onto my grandfathered $20 high-speed add-on.

    • capmike1

      And I’ll be hanging onto my 100 dollar Unlimited for 2 plan! MUCH better deal with no caveats, at least until my daughter is old enough for a phone.

      • Scott Miller

        So much this. And adding that third line for $40 should still be possible and a better deal.

      • Phone Guy

        When you daughter is old enough, just get her a prepaid. Then you don’t mess up your plan. Like Boost has unlimited with 1 GB of data for $30. Just saying there are a ton of options of giving her a mobile without screwing with your plan.

  • My kids are currently watching unlimited #BingeOn services with their Wi-Fi iPads tethered to their iPhones. Will switching to T-Mobile ONE lose that ability and be trying to watch videos over 2G?

    • Deval

      I would think so since 2G is effectively useless for any form of video streaming.

      • deval works for sprint

        Sprint employee and s4gru troll says wut??

        • Acdc1a

          Doesn’t mean Deval is wrong. If it is only 2G tethering I would assume it means no streaming. It’s why I’m not interested in this plan.

        • deval works for sprint

          read his comments all over s4gru..always wrong about tmus and making stuff up and saying how bad tmus is and shilling for sprint and how great they are…Now he’s a Tom expert and helping? Lmao more like trolling haha
          Don’t fall for the trap !

        • deval works for sprint

          *TMO

        • squiggleslash

          He didn’t mention Sprint and the comment you’re responding to is entirely correct – 2G is useless for any form of video streaming. Might it be worth your while being more selective with the comments you respond to with attacks?

        • deval works for sprint

          I get way your saying but your only looking skin deep LOL go over to s4gru to see the truth

    • Zachary Mais

      I wonder as well on the unlimited Hotspot 2g if Music Freedom applies if you’re connected to a tablet or desktop/laptop?

      • Just got this from @TMobileHelp: “Binge On is not going to be included with this new plan, that is correct. So the streaming through tethering, will count against the amount of tethering that you have.”

        I think it’s same to assume that Music Freedom is also not available via tethering.

        Bottom line is that, under the new plan, the unlimited LTE data is only for the device it’s on. According to Google, GSM’s 2G speed is EDGE with a theoretical max of 1Mbps, 500Kbps in practice, HOWEVER T-Mobile has traditionally throttled users to even a more brutal 128-150Kbps, which won’t work for music, let alone video.

        • emcdonald75

          Anytime I have experienced EDGE, it has always been a max practice speed of 50-70Kbps. 2G should be outlawed as a Year 2016 violation of technology progress. That means all M2M business should update their equipment or replace it with LTE modules. by the end of this year. These wireless carriers are only keeping 2G around to service M2M businesses and international travelers, which is becoming less of a need now because more people have 3G/LTE phones and can easily be throttled.

  • Garblicks

    I already have their unlimited plan for all 5 of my lines, including 7g’s of hot spot per line. How does this new plan benefit me?

    • Deval

      Potentially cheaper if you don’t use hotspot plus it’s simplified in terms of pricing.

      $180 for 5 lines, unlimited everything with 480p+ streaming, no LTE hotspot though.

  • John Doe

    So turning on T-Mobile Binge On saves T-Mobile $25 dollars and all they give their current unlimited data customers who turn it on is a free VUDU rental. LMAOOO

    • squiggleslash

      There’s no rule that says a new plan can’t be better than an old plan.

      • John Doe

        It’s not an improvement though. It is actually more expensive than the current plan. If you add the $25 HD FEE and add the $5 autopay discount then that is $30 + $70 will equal to $100!!! and the current unlimited everything plan is $90.

        • squiggleslash

          There’s no rule that says that if some things are better than the old plan, everything in the new plan must be better than the old plan, either. ;-)

        • John Doe

          I have never claimed that the old plan or the new plan is better. I am just saying there is no transparency and its a ripoff. But some people think being ripped off is a “better plan”, I say… enjoy it.

        • squiggleslash

          I don’t see either argument as being applicable. They’ve been public in announcing what it is. It’s not a rip-off, it’s a reasonable price for a plan that aims to ensure you can pay $X a month and not have to worry about overages or having your device crippled mid way through the month.

          I’m not saying I like it 100% – the tethering thing needs tweaking, for example. But most people are fine with 480p video on their 5″ screens (that are probably 480p anyway), so I’m baffled by the outcry about the $25 HD charge. And most people don’t tether.

          It’s a decent compromise. Sure, in any group you’ll find some people who’ll find an older, discontinued, plan slightly more useful for their purposes. I miss my old EMP with unlimited $20 data (including tethering) plan, personally… but this is a good plan, and probably a clear majority of T-Mobile’s customers will be better off switching to it.

  • DHar Harr

    Is this subject to “network prioritization” after 21gb?

    • Garblicks

      I used 32 gigs last month

      • QB

        I used 101GB

    • Alex Wagner

      That threshold is now at 26GB, but yes, the new T-Mobile One plan is subject to network prioritization. From T-Mobile’s announcement:

      “As with T-Mobile Simple Choice, customers using the most data, the highest 3%, (currently those using more than 26GB of high-speed data/month) may see their data traffic prioritized behind other users once they cross that threshold during their billing month. As a result, they may notice relatively slower speeds but only at specific times and places that may experience high, competing network demand or congestion.”

      • Acdc1a

        I’ve gotten myself de-prioritized on a 10GB metered plan with all of the streaming I do. It still wasn’t too bad. 26GB on phones alone though is a pretty high threshold.

  • squiggleslash

    I kinda wondered if this is where T-Mobile was going. They’ve made the biggest bandwidth congesters, streaming audio and streaming video, unlimited as long as you do it their preferred way. Saying “OK, now we’ve gotten people used to that, there’s no point in having limits for anything else” makes sense.

    That said, the unlimited hotspot at 2G speeds thing sounds awful. I wish they’d at least bump up the speed to a few hundred kbps, even understanding they don’t want to encourage widespread use.

    • TechnoRealz

      At some point that will change too.
      Legere has been forcing the walls down on a lot of things since he started this uncarrier strategy.

    • besweeet

      They’ll supposedly have high-speed tethering add-ons. 128Kbps / 16KB/s really is painful.

      • Acdc1a

        If they’re reasonable enough it may make this plan better than at first glance.

    • Hurlamania

      why not cap it at something reasonable 2-3mbps

      • besweeet

        That could cause confusion by those who aren’t as technically inclined. Regular people aren’t going to know what “2-3Mbps” even means.

        • squiggleslash

          Can’t be any more confusing than “2G”, especially as 2G doesn’t mean 64kbps to most people (EDGE was more like 300-500kpbs)

        • besweeet

          I think the general public think of “2G” of something that’s slow / outdated / probably not usable for what they want.

          If T-Mo wanted to be nice, they’d have unlimited 3G hotspot (capped at 2Mbps or something) with a 4G add-on. But this is the Un-un-carrier we’re now talking about… lol

  • varun

    Ah shoot. We were just thinking about giving up the $10 family-wide unlimited stateside mobile calling to move from the “old” Simple Choice to the “new” Simple Choice that allows 10 lines instead of 5, but this is worse in almost every way for us. Might have to hurry that decision through before the 6th. What a mess.

    Edit, just to give you a specific comparison: we have five lines under the “old” Simple Choice – $50 for the first, $20, $10, $10, $10. We also pay $20 for the upgrade to unlimited data on the first line, $10 for the upgraded data on the second line, and $10 for the unlimited stateside mobile calling. Our total, before taxes and corporate discount is $140 and we pay using a credit card which nets us 5x points. If we switched to this, we’d of course lose the points, but in addition, our cost would go to $70, $50, $20, $20, $20 plus $15 for one bucket of 5GB of highspeed tethering, plus $15 per line for the unlimited stateside mobile calling – $270.

    That’s Verizon pricing.

  • stuman19741974 .

    I think I’ll stick with my current “old” plan. We have 5 lines (mine is unlimited) and the rest of my fam gets 2.5 GB/mo. In total, it is $130/mo. Plus I am still getting my old 15% corporate discount that I’ll ride out as long as I can.

    As much as my kids would love unlimited, not worth the $$$…they can find WiFi most places when not at home.

  • Hurlamania

    did they do the conference call yet or just release the video? If not when is the call?

  • resource

    If you don’t want to watch blurry 480P video or use your hotspot at all, this plan is terrible as the upgrades for HD video and the hotspot are very expensive.

    Curious how the FTC reacts to the upcharge for non SD video.

    • Acdc1a

      It’s more NN compliant than BingeOn as it treats all video the same.

    • Wushu D

      Ugh, 480p looks perfectly fine on my Nexus 6. if it was 2006 it would look like shit.

    • Frankwhitess

      Blurry 480p ?? What are you smoking ? Pass that over !

      • resource

        You think 480P video looks good on a 1080/1440P phone or tablet, please share your drugs with me.

        • Acdc1a

          It looks perfectly acceptable. Remember that Netflix was pushing out 480p to AT&T and Verizon customers by default…AND NO ONE NOTICED!

      • squiggleslash

        I’m sure all three of the people who have 5″ phones with 8K screens are very upset about the whole 480p thing… ;-)

    • nearvanaman

      I rent SD Vudu movies and watch on a 46″ TV and, honestly, I think it looks fine. Maybe they upscale it or something.

      • resource

        When I watch SD Vudu rentals on my 50″ 1080P TV, I think it looks horrible. I tried Binge On and the SD looked bad on my smartphone. Maybe I have super vision but I hate low-res files and notice them right away.

        • nearvanaman

          I’m probably a bit low maintenance on the resolution thing. I’m happy enough using a 720p smartphone. But I would expect 480p to look garbage on a big screen.

  • lomsha

    Tempting.

    • Phone Guy

      Not tempting.

      • lomsha

        To you, everyone’s usage is different.

  • prayingandhoping

    Whoa!!
    No thanks john!
    I’ll stick with my current plan!

  • Hurlamania

    Also I don’t see it in t-mobiles interest to do away with their $50 2gb base plan with hot spot and choice of binge on toggling seems unrealistic to offer one plan with no hd video unless you pay $25, I don’t see the other plans leaving, the bucket plans they refer to are for Verizon and att

  • emcdonald75

    This is the worst Uncarrier yet. It is basically an a la carte system, so services that most people will use, become the reasons behind extra fees. The $95 Unlimited Plan is better than this. T-Mobile should get rid of all areas that are 2G only and focus on expanding coverage, even in areas without 700MHz by using their PCS spectrum licenses. If there is an area without enough spectrum for 2G and LTE, then LTE should be the preferred service since LTE and VoLTE services are the future of the network. There are still too many areas of 2G coverage or No Coverage. I know it is ideal to wait for the 600MHz spectrum to become available, but aren’t there areas covered by AWS and PCS spectrum that is owned by T-Mobile that must be used or the carrier is at risk of losing the spectrum license? I am proud of T-Mobile for expanding coverage and pushing the market to show more care for customers, but the Uncarrier is beginning to sound more Recarrier with each new plan or service released. I know T-Mobile is about making money and saving bandwidth on their network, which is why more money should be poured into expanding coverage and reliability. Their plans, services and the benefits of using T-Mobile as a carrier are already great enough persuasion; T-Mobile only needs to improve network coverage and reliability, and maybe a new billing system because the number of errors are downright awful, and I am a customer of only 3 years.

    • TJ Ninneman

      Unfortunately, you cannot just get rid of the 2G/3G network. There are millions IoT devices that depend on it and depend on T-Mobile to provide that service.

      • Bryan Pizzuti

        You can probably get rid of the 3G network, the IoT devices will work off 2G and generally won’t care about the speed change. On the other hand, LTE is much more spectrally efficient than HSPA, so it would pay to retire 3G and redeploy all that spectrum as LTE.

        • Isn’t that what they’re doing? There was an article a while back on T-Mobile retiring their 3G network entirely, starting in the cities, very soon I think.

        • emcdonald75

          The article you may have read might have stated that T-Mobile is shutting down their 3G network on their AWS bands and moving it to their PCS spectrum bands. He is speaking of shutting down 3G altogether and adding the PCS spectrum bands that were once HSPA/+ to LTE, which would increase LTE coverage for data and voice by 20%. I don’t understand T-Mobile’s delay in making this decision.

        • Thanks for the clarification. This was the article I read, and if you’re not reading very very carefully, at least to me, it seemed like it was being shut off entirely:
          https://www.tmonews.com/2015/06/aws-hspa-t-mobile-markets-shutdown-dates/

        • Thanks for the clarification. I have just checked a couple other articles that confirm this, so thanks.

          The article I read was on Tmonews and it’s called “Los Angeles, Chicago and Houston among major T-Mobile markets having their AWS 3G/4G networks shut down this summer” – I linked to it, but that comment is awaiting approval, and I don’t know how long it will take to approve, so I’m posting this.

          If you read that article, there is *nothing* about the 3G moving to PCS spectrum. I just thought all the HSPA was moving to LTE and I got us all new phones in preparation for this. I think I read it pretty carefully. Surprised to find a somewhat misleading article on Tmonews, but that’s kind of a doozy.

        • emcdonald75

          You’re welcome. Honestly, if T-Mobile just shuts down HSPA/+ and used the spectrum for VoLTE and LTE that would fix a lot of my city coverage problems. Though I have noticed at times my voice calls will switch from LTE to HSPA before ending the call, it does not happen all of the time; many times the calls drop. HSPA/+ -> LTE woudl also help address some of the reliability of VoLTE/LTE data coverage and boost bandwidth for faster speeds.

        • Which is why when I read that article, it made complete sense, even if it seemed totally ambitious (but this is T-Mo we’re talking about, so I thought OK). It said zero about moving these to PCS.

        • emcdonald75

          I agree completely.

    • Acdc1a

      Have you looked at the map lately? We used to run into Edge and GPRS frequently when we switched to T-Mobile. Now it never happens. There are a couple of very localized areas that are still 2G, but they are very small.

      • emcdonald75

        Maybe where you are, but there are many areas where I live and more Americans in other places that cannot attest to that. Sometimes I blame my iPhone 6S Plus but their are coverage holes that seem to just form out of nowhere and cause drop calls in the city, and then there are places that have never been touched or considered which makes me think T-Mobile is waiting on the 600MHz spectrum.

        • Acdc1a

          With the bold claims of matching Verizon’s footprint by the end of the year, they clearly have plans ahead of the auction. This is one Tmo claim that i don’t believe though.

    • I agree with most of this. I haven’t had any billing issues, even with many regular changes to my account. However, this plan doesn’t really seem “uncarrier” like. It’s confusing, especially since it seems they might be discontinuing the Simple Choice plans next to them eventually? Or no?

      As for coverage, it’s gotten SO much better – even on vacation in rural NH I had LTE in a lot of places. But the rural coverage in NH is STILL nowhere near Verizon’s coverage. Two huge resort areas in NH – Loon Mountain and Bretton Woods – still had zero coverage. Not even edge/roaming. I know they need to keep getting new customers to show they’re growing (and it’s getting tougher and tougher to lure folks from one carrier to another now), but this plan seems like the worse uncarrier yet.

      • emcdonald75

        I didn’t complain before because here in Jackson, MS, we have very good LTE coverage except in a few buildings and in certain spots around town, which is weird that the coverage map shows excellent coverage but the calls drop when you are in those spots. I complain now because the areas outside of Jackson had roaming before but now the roaming has disappeared especially as I drive to my parents house where there is LTE coverage but not the drive there. I drive about 20 miles with No Service displayed on the phone driving to my parents house. But the map shows LTE coverage. There was a time I had AT&T roaming but it disappeared, which made me think T-Mobile was going to build out in the area, but in 2 years that hasn’t happened.

        • I think the AT&T roaming agreement perhaps expired? It was the same for me on vacation in NH. Used to at least have roaming where there was no LTE. Now, if you don’t have LTE (some of it provided by the new spectrum up there), you don’t have ANYthing.

        • emcdonald75

          In 2011, T-Mobile entered into a seven-year roaming agreement with AT&T, which Deutsche Telekom said would allow T-Mobile to reach areas where it has not had a high-speed network or a roaming arrangement until now. With the roaming deal, T-Mobile will reach 280 million U.S. residents, up from the current 230 million.

        • emcdonald75
    • I believe that T-mobile has long term contracts in place to provide commercial 2G service, so it’s unlikely to go away. However, 2G spectrum can be finely allocated in 0.2MHz chunks, unlike HSPA spectrum which consumes 5 or 10MHz of spectrum. T-mobile is rightfully moving to shrink the spectrum used by HSPA, first by eliminating DC-HSPA to open 5MHz for LTE and then by thinning SC-HSPA to fit enough 2G channels with it within 5MHz. Eventually, HSPA will be shut off completely, freeing up to 10MHz for LTE using existing licenses, but not before enough volte devices are in the wild, for HSPA allows for simultaneous voice and data, which makes it a suitable fall back in the absence of volte, unlike 2G.

      • emcdonald75

        Do you know how long is that process? I have noticed better coverage in Walmart. Before I had no coverage and the phone shows No Service, now I have one or two bars that held the call the whoel time even in the back of the store. I was impressed and shocked. I’m hoping that a new Galaxy Note 7 or iPhone 7 Plus will have an improved radio for better coverage or support for T-Mobile’s Enhanced Voice Services (EVS).

        • Hard to say. Radios do get better, but it’s hard to say whether it’ll help in this or that location.

  • Bryan Pizzuti

    I think this is a decent enough option, it allows the base price of their unlimited plan to be much more appealing, and frankly the a-la-carte stuff are things a lot of people don’t use, or use rarely (except maybe streaming video over data, but there’s a decent amount of it that’s 480p only when you get down to it). A lot will depend on whether they retain the legacy plans as alternatives, including the more expensive legacy unlimited plan. Time will tell.

    • Jason

      Exactly another OPTION
      Until they force us all off our 2/$100 unlimited plans there’s nothing to worry about!!!!!!

      • Johnny 5

        Its not another option if new subscribers coming to TMO only have one OPTION to chose from. Legacy and grandfathered plans are not offered to anyone anymore. So there really is only one choice.

  • NardVa

    Data consumption is going up. With the One plan T-mobile can keep data usage under control with video capped at 480P and tethering capped at 2G speeds.

    • Acdc1a

      Give me 1Mbps for tethering at least…otherwise It’s useless for my situation.

  • Nick

    I have 12 lines on a Simple Choice 10GB Family Match Promo Plan. This new plan is the same pricing for Unlimited it seems, but it looks like you can only do 10 lines max. Is that correct? What happens if you have more than 10 voice lines.

    • Acdc1a

      I believe 10 is the max based on what’s been released thus far.

    • patt

      If you don’t do automatic payments it’s 5$x12 more lol and then if you want HD streaming.. well 12$x25$ lol. Make sure if you at least switch to do automatic payments. Now the 25$ HD streaming I don’t know what to tell ya.

      • Panzer

        Since you only have the one bill I doubt it would be $5 per line for not using auto pay.

        • patt

          Straight from T-MO newsroom

          Pricing is radically simple too. A family of four can get T-Mobile ONE for just $40 per line—the best price for Unlimited LTE nationwide. The first line is $70 a month, the second is $50 a month, and additional lines are only $20 a month up to 8 lines with auto pay. And it’s just $5 more a month per line without auto pay. All include unlimited talk and text and unlimited 4G LTE smartphone data while on our blazing-fast network.

        • Panzer

          OMG that’s insane. Essentially forcing people to use auto pay.

        • patt

          That’s what I’ve been saying. Recarrier 12 just began.

        • Phone Guy

          Love it. Re-carrier. So funny!

      • Nick

        I have auto pay to a rewards card for the cash back. 480p Streaming is fine for what I use it for. I have some HEAVY users on my plan some of them hit their 10GB in a few days so this plan maybe attractive to me. The only one that tethers is me and I do it very infrequently.

        • patt

          Then you have a unique situation ;)

    • Phone Guy

      Its $20 per line, line 5-8. Then its $30 per line for any additional lines.

  • Hurlamania

    i never understood why they never offered a service capped at somewhere around 7-12mbs and also on their unlimited amount type with a kick in cap like there 2gb why not slow down to 1-2mbs

    • Acdc1a

      I’m not sure how much benefit to the network that would be vs. allowing it to go wide open. 480p uses just under 1Mbps and that’s where BingeOn operates so it is probably pretty efficient. This may be the future.

      • Hurlamania

        Instead of using 30-70 mbps for 3 weeks and then 56k you get 10 mbps ask month, it will help the network alot you can get 4 to 5 more users at good speed to do anything

  • Panzer

    Being honest this plan sounds terrible compared to my current $70 unlimited plan. $5 for not using auto pay? 2g tethering? $25 HD package?

    • Acdc1a

      I’d go on auto pay for $5 off per line. Unfortunately I don’t think they’ll do it since I’m already at 5 lines for $140 at 10GB per line.

      • Phone Guy

        It’s not $5 off per line. The price quoted includes the $5 discount. So there is NO DISCOUNT. Really, if you don’t choose auto pay, your price will go up $5 per line above all the prices in the article and on the website. Evil.

        • Acdc1a

          I understand that. I’m simply saying I’d go on auto pay to save $5…and if I were buying a new plan, I’d do it to get the advertised price.

        • JG

          That’s true. I can imagine all the unhappy folks who will be calling in to find out whey their bill is higher than they were expecting.

    • besweeet

      Don’t forget $15 for 5GB of high-speed tethering.

    • John Doe

      It is even worse than the current $90 unlimited plan LoL

    • Verizonthunder

      I’ll keep my unlimited talk, text, data, with 7gb high speed data, and my data match tablet 5gb of unlimited high speed for ten bucks a month; all for 90 bucks a month, not including discount.

  • Medion

    Wow! So $120 for two lines. Add in the unlimited video streaming and the 5GB hotspot, and it’s $200/mo! Holy crap, T-Mobile can keep this one.

    • Hurlamania

      get the 2 total unlimited for $190

    • Hurlamania

      it would be $280 for both lines with add ons or $195 currently and you get 14gb hot spot each line not 5

      • Medion

        I’m talking about the T-Mobile One plan in this article.

        $70 for first line
        $50 for second line
        $15 for 5GB hotspot per line ($30)
        $25 per line for HD video ($50)

        That’s $200.

  • Michael Tran

    NO cursing mean’s he doesn’t believe in it =P

  • (J²)

    This is actually HORRIBLE!

    I mean, great move but the pricing structure needs some serious tweaking.

    All “Add Ons” should be included.

    We need clarification on the $5/Line Auto Pay discount. Is this all lines or only voice lines? If it’s all lines that could easily mean decent discounts.

    As far as forcing users to pay more to receive video at a higher quality… This is likely in violation of Net Neutrality.

    Another #Uncarrier with less than 24 hours of thought.

    • besweeet

      “As far as forcing users to pay more to receive video at a higher quality… This is likely in violation of Net Neutrality.”

      How is this any different from paying more to get higher hotspot speeds? Is the thing about NN the fact that it’s focusing solely on videos?

      • (J²)

        The focus of NN isn’t (or wasn’t video streaming) but has been in the forefront for some time.

        The problem is all network traffic should be treated equally. No party should have to pay more to receive (or deliver) prioritized or unthrottled content.

        Previously, content providers were coming forward admitting that ISP’s deprioritized their content and they had to pay the ISP more for their network traffic to be treated equally to ensure a good user experience.

        Binge On tested the waters of NN but since subscribers had the option to opt in/out and content providers had the option to sign up at no additional charge there was no real case against it.

        • besweeet

          With that logic, they can’t charge for high-speed data on throttled / 2G hotspot plans, right?

        • kevev

          yup. Every bit should be treated equally. That is the definition of Net Neutrality.

        • besweeet

          Then also with that logic, wired ISPs shouldn’t be charging more for faster Internet tiers, right?

        • (J²)

          This is a little different (and so is the other example).

          As long as ALL CONTENT is able to take advantage of whatever the advertised speeds are then there is no violation. It must be across the board.

          To tether/use hotspot this plan would throttle ALL CONTENT to 2G speeds.

          An ISP allows you to choose different packages with different speeds which is applied to ALL CONTENT.

    • Phone Guy

      Not a violation of Net Neutrality. They are advertising it this way, and you don’t have to join, so not a violation. Secon, its all lines, but its actually $5 more per line if you don’t auto pay, not the other way around.

      • (J²)

        That doesn’t get them off the hook though. It’s no different from what Comcast tried to do earlier this year.

      • (J²)

        I’d give this a read. It is in violation. NN has nothing to do with how something is advertised.

        http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-37130987

    • Acdc1a

      They’re treating all video the same…no “participating providers.” That means this is Net Neutrality friendly.

      • Fabian Cortez

        They’re treating all video the same…no “participating providers.” That means this is Net Neutrality friendly.

        People are routinely confused about the term “Net Neutrality.”

      • (J²)

        Net Neutrality is about treating ALL content the same, not just video.

      • (J²)

        Might want to give this a read…

        http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-37130987

        You obviously didn’t know the entire purpose of NN is to ensure ISP’s are treating all content equally.

        Keyword being ALL.

    • BBTech

      I’m pretty sure they’re going to be advertising the lowest possible prices, so they’ll be including the auto-pay discount in the quoted prices.

      • (J²)

        That’s what I thought and feared… :/

        It’s always a wait and see game with T-Mobile though.

  • Alex Zapata

    And that’s a big fat nope. I’m keeping my 14GB of tethering for as long as I can.

  • Josh Ramnauth

    This is probably the first worst Uncarrier announcement ever! Watch they’re going to pull a Verizon and make everyone go to the new plan.

    • Fabian Cortez

      Watch they’re going to pull a Verizon and make everyone go to the new plan.

      From what I’ve read, it seems unlikely:

      Current T-Mobile customers can keep the plans they have or choose to sign up with T-Mobile ONE. It’s their call.

      • Phone Guy

        Yes, BUT, no. You can keep your plan, but if you want to add another family member, you won’t be able to add new lines under your old legacy plan (any older plan than this) and you will be forced to go to T-Mobile One if you want to add new people.

        • Acdc1a

          Nope. That’s not happening here as it hasn’t happened yet with the old grandfathered Simple Choice promos.

        • Fabian Cortez

          Yes, BUT, no. You can keep your plan, but if you want to add another family member, you won’t be able to add new lines under your old legacy plan (any older plan than this) and you will be forced to go to T-Mobile One if you want to add new people.

          Do you have a link for this?

        • Debunked. See above.

        • Homero Garza

          I don’t think that’s true, mine still let’s me add a line

        • Incorrect. Confirmed by @TMobileHelp: “You absolutely can add lines to your grandfathered rate plans without having to switch to T-Mobile One! As long as the new line does NOT want unlimited data, you are not required to make the switch.”

      • Josh Ramnauth

        That’s probably subject to change. Is there any fine print?

    • Fabian Cortez
      • Josh Ramnauth

        That pricing is ridiculous! $160 for 4 lines and that doesn’t even include the price of phones!

        • Acdc1a

          I’m sure they’ll continue the “free” low end phones. $40 per line for unlimited is quite reasonable.

        • Fabian Cortez

          That pricing is ridiculous! $160 for 4 lines and that doesn’t even include the price of phones!

          It’s unlimited high speed LTE data on the phone…

        • Josh Ramnauth

          OK I take it back it’s not that bad but the fact that new customers have only this one plan to choose from is a little ridiculous

        • Fabian Cortez

          OK I take it back it’s not that bad but the fact that new customers have only this one plan to choose from is a little ridiculous

          New customers can choose another carrier…

          But the way things are going, with more and more data being consumed, this deal is looking better and better. Not to mention advancements in video encoding (H.265) and 1.5 Mbps could go a long way.

          Another fun fact: video uploads are not affected by Binge On.

  • Hurlamania

    plan started of good the $45 video is off the charts. And the tethering should be a bit faster you can get 2mb unlimited internet for $14.95 from TWC

    • Acdc1a

      But then you’re dealing with Time Warner…

  • Yeah, I’m sticking with my five lines of 10GB for $140. With BingeOn and Music Freedom, no thanks to this horrible plan, T-Mo. I love ya, but I’m starting to not recognize you anymore. The whole point of your previous uncarriers was about clarity and simplicity. Apparently, not anymore. Must be harder and harder to lure those remaining holdouts over.

    Just keep improving your network, and advertising that fact, and they’ll eventually be persuaded.

    • Acdc1a

      What’s not clear or simple about this plan? It’s pretty straight forward. While it won’t work for you (or me for that matter), it doesn’t mean it’s bad.

      • I’m referring to the fact that plans used to be XGB w/unlimited text, talk for $X per month. Now there are different plans in regard to tethering (some included, some not), you have to figure if you’re going to BingeOn or not, the line prices are different depending on which line it is, and there are different prices for lines as high as nine and ten. Then there’s the different speeds.

        And worst of all, it looks like T-Mobile wants to abandon tiered plans, which WORK for the majority of us, particularly since T-Mobile was awesome enough to give us Music Freedom & BingeOn.

        I think I agree with another comment here – no swearing means he’s not buying it. lol

    • AussieB

      Actually this is simple. Only one plan. Just not good or cheapest for many people. You guys keep thinking Tmobile is your friend. It made moves it needed to get new customers. Its a public company trying to make a profit.

      • I signed up when Uncarrier1 came out. I knew instantly that things were changing at T-Mobile and that it was a company that wanted to buck the system and change the way wireless was done. No contracts? I’m in. I paid my ETF’s to Verizon and said eff you, no more.

        But lately, it’s been more and more gimmicks. This one is the most gimmicky of all. One plan doesn’t fit for all, and it’s VERY expensive for my five lines, three of which never go over 2GB for the month (I’m on the 10GB for $140 plan).

        • Acdc1a

          There’s just no gimmick about this plan. You want T-Mobile going forward? It’s unlimited. Want to tether at speeds faster than 2G? Pay for it.

          Don’t get me wrong, I don’t care for the plan, but a gimmick? No way.

  • Frankwhitess

    This plan BLOWS !!!!! Thank mobile is in Trouble !

  • dontsh00tmesanta

    2 for 100 ftw

  • Phone Guy

    Ouch! Trying to fit everyone into one plan may not work as well as Mr. Legere hopes. It’s a bit of smoke and mirrors, and I am a loyal T-Mobile customer with 9 lines. Most industries have multiple price points/ tiers for logical reasons. When you price everything the same, the price vs demand/ Supply vs demand curve won’t work correctly. Also, if you share your rate plan with friends and family who each help pay on their credit cards, auto pay won’t work. Check: You must now add $5 PER LINE per person per month unless only one person is paying, not a reality for many. OUCH! Hotspot data is now limited to 2G. Basically, it’s useless. I use 2G data (or try to) all over the world and find that most of the time I must add on additional higher speed data plan as most apps won’t work well or even at all. Now, try running a laptop off of 2G; impossible. Check: Must add $15 per month per line to turn on a little bit (5GB) higher tethering speed. OUCH! Personally I share my high speed data from my “bucket” with friends when they are having speed issues. That will no longer be an option. How about trying to watch a Youtube video in HD because you want to look at it a bit closer. No big deal. Check: $25 HD video access fee per line per month. OUCH. Currently we can turn off the speed filter, watch something in HD, and then turn it back on again; super easy. That will no longer be an option unless you pay an additional $25 per line. How about a tablet? Most of us are currently paying about $20 per month with a $10 discount making it a final monthly cost of $10 per month. Check! Must add $20 per month for all tablets instead, no discounts. OUCH!

    I really appreciate the attempt to simplify the industry, and provide unlimited data, but in this newest derivative of T-Mobile One, it has actually become way more limiting with so many extra charges for everything you do. I will be curious to see where T-Mobile goes from here.

    On a side note, if you are a family of two or three, only one person pays the bill, you don’t do any tethering, don’t need tablets, and don’t need HD video on your phone (most shouldn’t) and just want to basically do everything on your phone, then this new plan should work well. But you better hold your breath as if you make one move off of this, here come the extra charges.

    Oh. Unlimited data is actually 26GB before you are throttled to 2G, unless the network is quiet or not a lot of people are on it, where, at that point,they will open it up to you again.

    • Acdc1a

      Actually a one size fits all model does work when priced properly and with the proper add-ons I don’t think this is priced properly though.

      • Phone Guy

        It doesn’t work for airlines or any other industry. It has been proven that when you price everything the same, you actually lose money. It would be like giving everyone the same service on a plane. It won’t work. But it would be nice if it did. I would support it if it would.

        • Acdc1a

          Airlines SHOULD offer the same rate to everyone on the plane. The fact that I paid $200 for my ticket and they guy next to me may have paid $700 is insane. We’re going to the same place. We need an Un-Airline.

        • Adam

          This is because airlines are super competitive.

      • Fabian Cortez

        Precisely. This simplifies it all.

        It must be clarified that all data being used by the smartphone occurs at unlimited speeds. The only thing affected is video and music. And even then, video is at 1.5 Mbps.

        Want more? Spring for the add-ons.

  • Guillermo Eduardo Ortega-ibarr

    It’s okay i keep my plan 150 for 4 lines unlimited data 14 gb of hotspot each additional line after 4-30 per line… So yea my plan it’s better and I have high quality video for free

    • AxelCloris

      I’m assuming this deal is long expired, right? Mine’s around $140 for 3 lines of unlimited and I wouldn’t mind adding a fourth for $10 if possible.

      • Guillermo Eduardo Ortega-ibarr

        Yes its about 6 months or more old

        • AxelCloris

          Thanks.

  • JJCommonSense

    Ive got the old unlimited family plan where 1st 2 lines were $100…… this new plan basically competes with Sprints unlimited plan for $75 or $70 if u get it at best buy…

  • AussieB

    I guess single people who don’t use a lot of data aren’t part of Tmobile target audience. $70 is now the lowest price plan, and that’s if you do autopay and forgo HD video. Makes me more inclined to try Project FI or stay with my $45 Straight Talk 5gb LTE plan. Don’t stats still show most people use less than 2gb a month?

    • Phone Guy

      I use 8 now. I don’t mean to, but the phones must be geared that way. I used to use 2, but whatsapp alone uses over 2.5 GB per month. Straight Talk is a very very smart alternative.

    • Acdc1a

      You said it right…for single lines there are much better options than a T-Mobile postpaid plan. Metro works out much better if you’re not a data heavy user…cheaper than Project FI too. $30 for 1GB and $40 for 3GB is pretty good.

    • TheCudder

      Unlimited plans are nearly useless to the average consumer with T-Mobile providing unlimited streaming on so many music & video services. I have a 7GB plan but I only hit about 3.5 GB of charged data each month — and I pay about $68 AFTER taxes, fees & Rhapsody/Napster Premier subscription $9.99). The $50 & $60 plans makes much more sense. The Uncarrrier thing should have ended long ago…a lot of them have been useless.

      • Yep. I took advantage of the 10GB/month plan for my five lines just to lock that in. I figured with BingeOn and Music Freedom, it was all I’d ever need. and three of the lines on my account never go over 2GB, but I figured best to lock that in.

        I think ONCE have I gone over, and my data stash took care of that easily.

        The great thing about T-Mo was that they basically eliminated any thought that I needed Unlimited very quickly after I joined up on Uncarrier1. Leaving my Unlimited on Verizon was tough, but T-Mo made it very easy pretty quickly after I joined.

  • JJCommonSense

    well if youre in a better plan you can keep your plan… theyre just competiting with the market is all..

    • For now you can keep it. It very much seems like the eventual plan is to abandon Simple Choice, no?

      • kevev

        Yes you are correct. Enjoy the ride while it lasts.

      • JJCommonSense

        IF U LIKE YOUR PLAN, YOU CAN KEEP YOUR PLAN! lmao lolol

        • John Doe

          Not really there are restrictions. You are not forced to change but if you want a new feature which I am sure they will announce new things in the future you have to upgrade or if you leave and comeback or whatever. You are not given a lifetime pass to the current plan you have. T-Mobile is doing this because they are to scared to just plainly increase their current plan costs instead they play these silly tricks and games to make it look like its a better plan.

      • idisestablish

        There are people with grandfathered plans paying $20 per month for an individual line. T-Mobile has never forced someone to change their plan, even before Uncarrier.

  • TMobileLuvr

    Would have been nice if the cost of these plans already included taxes and fees. Pay one flat rate, like Cricket wireless does. You can already get unlimited wireless on Cricket for $70 month and that includes taxes and fees. Plus Cricket uses the AT& T network so it is comparable to TMobile’s network. I realize that Cricket caps download speeds on their unlimited plan at 8 mb/s but not many people even need speeds that high.

    • AussieB

      8mbps seems fairly slow. Most people don’t need or use unlimited data. This is just a lot of marketing. If everyone used 20gb, the network would likely crumble

    • Phone Guy

      Boost now has unlimited for $50. Everyone is chasing on T-Mobiles tail. This plan isn’t very good.

  • HeatFan786

    I’ll pass. My current family plan is good enough compared to this new Uncarrier plan.

  • So according to the press release – “ALL IN on Unlimited” and “unveiling the move and redefining the very core of wireless service – the old, tired data plan,” it does certainly sound like they want to get rid of the Simple Choice plans, no?

    • Acdc1a

      It seems based on the tone that T-Mobile ONE is the plan going forward.

  • George Salcedo

    Uncarrier flop for sure, will stick with my current plan but probably dumping tmobile soon. “Congestion” in the 90706 zip code hasn’t been addressed for 3 years now.

    • msohail

      Congestion has been getting worse in the bay area as well

  • AussieB

    Worse, its increasing prices for potential new customers that don’t want or need unlimited data… Esp single people

    • Acdc1a

      There are so many other options available within T-Mobile for those single lines that don’t need unlimited.

      • TheCudder

        Until September 6th…then there’s only one plan.

        • Acdc1a

          Prepaid and Metro PCS…

        • John Doe

          You can’t get phones on prepaid and you can’t get good phones on Metro PCS. Come to think of it, T-mobile’s smartphone lineup is horrible. They only have 28 phones and some of those are refurbished. What happened to the days T-Mobile used to get all the new phones first, They were the first to release an Android phone.

  • steveb944

    Wow, let’s burry the hatchet with Unmarried already. It keeps getting worse and worse.

    This ‘unlimited’ plan has so much fine print it makes Verizon look good.

  • Meziane

    If anyone thinks this new plan is good, state your case here, i’ll wait…

    • lomsha

      Easy, i dnt tether, no video watching outside the house, currently on the 3gb plan, no way I’m paying $95 for current unlimited plan. Boom. Lol

    • Acdc1a

      It’s not good for me but someone coming over from AT&T or Verizon? Huge! We complain about our tethering, but that’s only because as T-Mobile customers we’re used to having something everyone else charged for.

      • Meanwhile, the current customers get screwed if we ever leave Simple Choice or need to add a line. It’s the same thing with the Verizon folks who are still doing everything they can to cling to their Unlimited deals. I never thought I’d be back in that circumstance, and especially not with T-Mobile. Looks like I’m never making any changes at all ever again to my plan. Ugh.

        • Acdc1a

          I’ve been on my grandfathered 10GB plan and added 2 lines. You can still add lines to the old plans. No one is getting screwed. New customers aren’t being offered what we’ve become accustomed to, but existing customers keep their plans and can add lines just as they have since the launch of Simple Choice.

      • Phone Guy

        It cost way more than VZ, SP or AT on a single plan now.

        • Acdc1a

          Not if that person is on 5GB or higher…and as I mentioned before, the big 4 carriers are not targeting the single lines.

        • csr specialist

          It’s 70 for unlimited for a single line which is 25 cheap then tmobiles current offer for unlimited everything

  • Guest

    I told you people, T-Mobile is not your friend and John Legere is not a reincarnation of Jesus Christ.

    • Acdc1a

      Very few people here saw T-Mobile as anything but a for profit company.

      • Aaron Peromsik

        True, but for-profit companies have to price their offerings to attract customers who would otherwise go to other for-profit companies where they could meet their needs for less money. This doesn’t seem to be doing that.

  • Walt

    Guess i’ll be keeping my unlimited plan with metro for $60 otd

    • Matt

      I won’t be leaving Metro anytime soon.

  • icwhatudidthere

    So can you add unlimited 4k streaming for $25 and then use that over a hotspot?

    • Acdc1a

      Oh…good question…but I doubt it.

  • TheCudder

    Wait…are they eliminating all existing lower tier plans? Making the lowest price point for new subscribers $70 regardless, even if you don’t need unlimited data?

    • From the wording in the press release, that is the impression everyone’s getting, yes.

    • csr specialist

      Those who are prior plans can keep them forever, new customer would be on this rate plan after it is introduced

    • Alex Wagner

      T-Mobile will begin to phase out Simple Choice on Sept. 6, but it sounds like some plans might stick around for a little bit after. Quote from T-Mo’s conference call today:

      “We’ll begin to phase them out right away on Sept. 6 when T-Mobile One launches. We haven’t announced an end date for each of the plans, there will be a time period while we get our customers and our team transitioned, but we will begin phasing Simple Choice out on Sept. 6 when this plan launches. And some of the plans will remain for a short time thereafter.”

  • JJCommonSense

    Now I’m not a fan of how they snuck in that “auto-pay or its $5 more per line per month” thats a whole nother 25 dollars in my case.. and I aint goin on auto pay! lol

    • junkcorreo

      I agree! They seem to be on a path to recoup all that money they lost giving away stuff and having great deals to get people to switch or notice Tmobile

      • JJCommonSense

        I doubt they lost very much since they’re turning a profit. And that Tmo Tuesday’s stuff probably costs them very little or net $0 because of all the cross/affiliate marketing…. But they do have shareholders (a group of which I belong and hope u do 2 since they gave shares away), and they gotta keep the revenue coming in… long as they dont force me to change anything about my account im good… and i dont think they will, unless they put u into something equal or better… like they changed my tablet plans from a $10 match your data plan of up to 5gb, to a $20 5gb data plan with a $10 discount……

    • TMOTECH

      Nother is not a word.

      • JJCommonSense

        it is whatever i choose it to be on a blog comment…. thanx… now head your grammer trollin @$$ back up under the bridge or rock from which you came.. there’s nothin to see here… GO’ON NA! GET! LOL

  • Phone Guy

    I have a new question. While it is Sprint, one can get unlimited talk, text, and 2G data with 1GB of 4gLTE for $20+$20=$40 per month. Unlimited for $40. at&t is $30+$20 on their new plans coming up, (unlimited talk text and data with 1GB of high speed) for $50 per month. And Verizon is much less as well. So on this new plan, T-Mobile is officially more expensive that at&t, Sprint and Verizon on a basic one person plan. How the heck did this happen. Its fine if you want all the data, but for a basic user, they now need to go to one of the other three carriers.

    • Acdc1a

      Target market is not the single user.

  • Joe

    There was a plan for unlimited, $50 a line, 2 line minimum. Now this is even more money ($70 + $40). How is this a deal again? LOL. Come on Tmobile. $25 extra for not using Binge On? This is a new fee. John was talking about how Verizon and AT&T adds on extra fees but this is no different. This is not news. This is Tmobile starting to go downhill.

    • Matt

      This means that Binge On now may verywell violate net neutrality. Now Binge On is pay to play

      • Fabian Cortez

        This means that Binge On now may verywell violate net neutrality. Now Binge On is pay to play

        Actually, Binge Off is pay to play.

        • Ascertion

          Glad user’s have a choice now. /s

        • Fabian Cortez

          Glad user’s have a choice now. /s

          They absolutely do have a choice.

          They can choose not to use T-Mobile.

          They can also choose from the two upgrade packages. But what choice is needed? Every single person who walks off the street gets unlimited high speed LTE data. Data is everything these days so why compromise on data buckets?

        • ShutUp

          This right here is spot on.

    • junkcorreo

      I have to agree. I guess they have to make up for all the free stuff they giving away and cheap prices they handed out before (example 2 lines unlimited 50$ a pop)

      They got people to switch over at a cost and now they have to make up that money. I never expected them to keep handing out great deals.

      Another thing to mention is … if they ever become #1 they will be as greedy as Verizon.

    • Joe

      I’m keeping my 6 GB 2-line minimum for $80 plan as long as I can. This new plan is so much more money for basically nothing. I feel sorry for all the new people switching to Tmobile. They have no choice now.

  • tranceformer978

    So no free pizzas?

  • So some don’t agree with me that this is a gimmick, that’s fine. I see your points.

    But ONE thing in this T-MobileONE plan is certain —

    My love affair with T-Mobile since Uncarrier1 has just ended.

    Now I’m back to FREEZING any account changes in the hopes of keeping the plan I like for as long as I can (gee, feels like Verizon all over again).

    It was a fun 11 Uncarriers, T-Mo. What a shame.

    • csr specialist

      You don’t have to change from your current plan

  • Matt

    I’ll stay with MetroPCS for 60.00 per month truly unlimited 4G LTE per month. This new plan is quite expensive and surprising as it is rather consumer unfriendly. T-Mobile is trying to charge Verizon prices for a network that doesn’t match up. I’ll bet this won’t last.

  • Guest

    This may backfire like the free pizza, time for Legere to leave.

    • Fabian Cortez

      This means that Binge On now may verywell violate net neutrality. Now Binge On is pay to play

      Do you have any evidence that the free pizza backfired? Did T-Mobile lose customers? Did their churn increase?

      The opposite is quite true: They gained record customers in a slow quarter and their churn decreased to a record low for the company.

  • I think all the recent J.D.Powers and other reports have gone to T-Mo’s head. Since their data speeds are excellent, and they’re tops in customer service, now they figure they can act more like a premium network (despite the fact that there are still major swaths of the country not covered – I guess POPs are all that’s really important). Therefore, they’re going to raise rates and let the MVNOs like Straight Talk and Metro take care of the single folks who don’t need much data and want a cheap plan.

    Guess it was inevitable. They’re a corporation after all. The pressure must be intense.

    • Fabian Cortez

      They’re a corporation after all.

      Yes, they are not our friends. They are a business.

      • Jrunner

        I spent 2 good years with t-mobile, but it’s sort of strange now to me that I’m back on At&t and feel like my wife and I have the better deal there, especially when at the end of the day the network is still slightly larger in places I live and travel even with the band 12 upgrades T-Mo has done (not that I can get without upgrading my phone anyway currently). Glad I could be a part of the customer base that helped t-mobile achieve the disruptions they have, but I really have no need for unlimited. They’d be better off keeping the basic $50 plan with 2GB and nothing else and then skipping and going straight to the unlimited.

    • JG

      “despite the fact that there are still major swaths of the country not covered”. I’m glad I’m not alone with this thinking. The prices are good TMo, but the network still needs fixing. I can’t even make a phone call in my home without being on wifi. I’m in a fairly populated subdivision. If that isn’t bad enough, my daughter can’t make/receive a phone call or texts inside her high school. Same with my wife inside the hospital she works in. The negatives are adding up. TMo One plan is not attractive to the majority of new customers. That’s another negative for me as I don’t see how TMo will be able to sustain growth and fix the broken parts of the network.

      • I live on Long Island, which is totally saturated with T-Mobile LTE. I still hit areas though where there is no usable data. My doctor’s office in Bay Shore on Main Street is an example. The hospital in West Islip is another. It’s amazing to me that with all the LTE coverage here, and despite the fact that in a log of areas I can get like 50 or 60 down, there are still pockets that have absolutely zero usable data speeds. It’s why my friend on Verizon won’t switch, even though T-Mobile supposedly has the entire Island covered. If you look at their maps, coverage is excellent. In practice though, not so.

        until they fix that, there will always be those who won’t move.

        • JG

          This is very similar to my experience here in Phx, AZ. I have called multiple times to get support just in my neighborhood (even though there is an LTE tower less than a mile away), but since T-Mobile’s coverage map shows we are ‘covered’ nobody believes me when I call in. I had a friend over the other day and his data/talk was dead in my home. I didn’t know he was on T-Mobile until I saw him struggling to get a signal and then offered him my wifi password. T-Mobile would be ‘Awesome’ if they could just get the dead holes worked out. I’d be telling everyone I come in contact with how great my service is. As it stands, my bragging about gobs of data, free stuff, and low prices isn’t really convincing when everyone sees me struggling to get a signal in many “covered” areas. And now that the prices are rising, that makes it harder to tell others. Ah well, despite all this, I stick around because I can put up with the pain points. Call me cheap, I like to pay less and get more. But as soon as I have to pay more, I’m going somewhere that can provide better value and service for similar pricing.

  • KenP

    I think T-Mobile has the right idea moving to an all in plan on data, but T-Mobile One is not the answer at the current pricing. It it were, then most existing simple choice members would be wanting to jump on this plan. Instead, I’m reading that most want to stay put, including me (4 lines, 10GB/line, $120 +tax/fee /mo., includes generous tethering)

    The lack of any included LTE tethering in T-Mobile ONE is a real problem. I only use this feature like once a month and probably only use 0.1 GB. But I want it fast, not 2G and I don’t want to shell out $15/month extra for this very limited use.

    • Acdc1a

      $50, $30, $20…That’s where they should be with this if it’s what they’re doing going forward.

    • JG

      I’m with you on this one. Staying put with my 4 line, 10GB plan. I don’t think this new plan is very friendly to attract new customers either. I use tethering at least twice per week for a short burst of time. Why would I want to shell out an additional $25/mo to use it? 2g will be staggering, slow, on a network that frankly has too many deadzone areas in my travel path (Phx, AZ). As long as I get to keep my current plan, I’m good. If I have to change to a plan like the TMo One plan, I’m heading back to Verizon for better coverage at similar pricing.

  • kev2684

    • Smartphone Mobile Hotspot: 5GB of high-speed mobile hotspot use for $15.
    • HD Video: T-Mobile One offers unlimited video streaming at standard definition, which T-Mo says is typically DVD-quality (480p). If you’d like video up to 4K, you can add it for $25 per month per line.

    These shouldn’t be there and should be included in the plan. This undermines the “Uncarrier” thinking. This should be included. At most, Binge-On should be automatically flipped on with an option to turn it off for HD quality video.

    • JG

      Agreed. Agreed. TMobile is stepping backward in this thinking.

  • idisestablish

    Current unlimited plan vs T-Mobile One
    Single Line: $95 vs $70
    Two Lines: $140 vs $120
    Four Lines: $220 vs $160

    How is this increasing the cost of unlimited?

    • kev2684

      Current Single line $95
      Unlimited Data/Talk/Text w/ Vudu credits w/ Binge On turned on.
      All bells and whistles + 14GB LTE Speed Tethering

      New Single line $70
      +$25 for Unthrottled Videos
      +$15 for 5GB LTE Speeds Tethering

      it gets worse the more lines you add with +$40 on top of monthly fee to get HD videos and Tethering

    • John Doe

      Because the new plan is not truly unlimited…check the fine print. And is puts everything behind a paid wall. You want HD? pay $25. You don’t want autopay? pay $5. You want HD tethering? pay $15. So the new plan is $115 while all of that was included in the previous $70 then $95 unlimited plans.

  • Isaiah

    Not to mention they will be officially violating the FCC’s Net Neutrality Rules with the new T Mobile One Plans for charging customers to have the ability to get HD Videos. The only reason why they did not get into trouble with Binge On was due to the fact it could be turned off for free.

    • Acdc1a

      And Comcast is certainly in trouble for offering different speed options for different rates…wait..

      • Isaiah

        The difference is T Mobile is discriminating against traffic and is charging for prioritization of video traffic so you can have HD or 4K video. Comcast is not engaging in that type of activity.

        • Croq

          Correct. Netflix pays Comcast some money to get prioritized bandwidth, but we as customers don’t pay a different price if we want to watch 4K video (other than the obvious need to have a higher speed plan to support the bandwidth needs). But that’s not a violation of net neutrality. What T-Mo is doing is a violation.

  • kpb321

    Definitely going to stay with my 6gb per line family plan promo for $80 a month. 2gb at that price was practically unlimited for us anyway based on our data usage and 6gb with roll over is way more than we need. No reason to spend more for no benefit to us.

  • Croq

    I’ll stick with my 2-line unlimited everything plan for $100 a month. I don’t get the free calling for Mexico and Canada (but I don’t have any need for it either), but I do get 7GB of hotspot a month (don’t really use this, but it’s nice to have it there). And I get to use HD video (I have Binge On turned off) for free. Definitely not a deal for me.

    • ShutUp

      You actually DO get the mexico and canada benefits. EVERY postpaid customer gets that.

      • Croq

        Actually, the Mexico Canada free calling was added to plans after we already had this plan. We were told that it could be added, but at a cost of $10 per line. We also didn’t get the upgrade to 14GB tethering.

  • Brucipher

    Right now I have 5 lines with 10GB per line for $140.00. At least with my current plan, you have an option to change your video streaming quality and manage that usage yourself without having to pay extra. Plus you get a lot more, like tethering, without paying extra. No way I will be changing to the new plan.

    We rarely ever get close to the 10GB in a month…and even if we did, we have the 20GB in all the lines data stashes. I bet next year Simple Choice plans lose the data stash. I hope not, it is nice to have a backup.

    Big T-Mobile fail in my book.

    • I have the same plan. Five lines as well. It has been working great. I hope we can keep it forever. If i had to switch to the new plan, I’d actually be considering going back to Verizon for those prices (shudder) just so I’d have coverage in rural NH when I go up there.

      • JG

        Agreed. I’m on same plan, and would do the same (go back to vzw for better coverage) if anything changes with my current plan.

      • ShutUp

        So youre saying verizon will currently give you 50+ GB for anywhere close to that price? I dare you to try..

  • Joemail

    One thing i liked was how t-mobile gave the people the flexibility to choose the right plan.
    now they are choosing for you!

    This is very uncarrier like and i see it backfiring badly for new subscriber growth.
    Unless that growth was not sustainable network wise, why change it if it aint broken?

    two thumbs down!

    • I upvoted your comment, but I think you might be wrong. Only reason I say this is we have a guy in the office who’s still on Verizon unlimited, but has been considering switching to T-Mo for a long time. He hasn’t pulled the trigger because: coverage (still). But he says he’s very tempted by this. I don’t get it, but maybe other Verizon/ATT/Sprint folk will be too. T-Mo has to have done their research on this.

      • Joemail

        Certainly does, but suppose this is less attractive to the current offerings if you are a tmo customer now adding a line. I wonder what happens then if you are on the old plan.

  • Cellphone Chris

    Does the 21GB soft cap for de-prioritization apply to this plan as well? If so, while it may be a good deal for some, I’ll remain grandfathered on my 2-for-100 plan.

    • ShutUp

      Keep that plan forever! There will never be a better plan than that one. Never change it lol

  • Tom

    So are all the plans prior to this one now grandfathered? Or can we choose those plans still for new people signing up?

    • Isaiah

      All the plans T Mobile offers now will be grandfathered and replaced by the T Mobile One Plans.

      • Tom

        That’s unfortunate, they should provide an option for a one time fee to choose the old plans or something like that.

    • ShutUp

      No, there will be a grace period that will allow you time to do your math on which works best for you going forward.

      Basically: simple choice will be slowly phased out. The key word is SLOWLY.

  • adam

    Tmobile is for poor people, if your rich you go with att and verizon. Thats class right there.

    • Acdc1a

      Real classy to overpay.

    • Quimi

      Well said Adam – you gotta be rich to get the rip off prices of ATT and VZW. I get unlimited everything for $50/mo (will be grandfathered in for life) and I have friends who pay average of $300-$400/mo for less than what I get. So yes, in this economy, it makes so much more sense to be wasteful than frugal…not. And also super classy to use the wrong instance of “you’re”. :P

    • T1000

      That is the dumbest statements I heard, if you have good coverage in your area with T-Mobile why pay 2-3x the amount for another carrier with even less benefits. it would be possibly 1) They don’t realize they have a choice 2) There on a contract 3) or just likes to give money away because it grows on trees.

    • lomsha

      If you are a sucker go with att and Verizon. There corrected.

    • Jared

      I suggest you read the book ” The Millionaire Next Door”. The “wealthy”always look for value like myself. T-Mobile is great value in my opinion. Been with them for 6 years now after I left Verizon because they were too expensive for me.

      Understand this, just because someone acts “Rich” or has a high income doesn’t mean they are “wealthy”. The wealthy don’t spend all their income and buy liabilities (i.e. Cell Phones and plans). Instead they spend less then they make (save money using T-Mobile) and invest it in assets not liabilities.

      • Adam

        The “value” of a dropped call depends on what you could be doing with the money otherwise. If I need money for rent, I don’t care if my call is dropped. If you are going to lose a business deal, that call better not be dropped.

    • Adam

      I see the wireless industry to copying the beer industry. Over the last fee years premium beer (beer for rich people) prices have barely moved. Cheap beer (beers for poor people) have skyrocketed. Once again the rich win beer, while the poor people get screwed. Or was that cell phones?

  • PD

    What is Tmo thinking? Binge on and Music Freedom going away? Higher Prices? The reaction to this is overwhelmingly negative.

    • Acdc1a

      From existing customers who aren’t giving up their plans anyway. The market will judge for new customers.

  • JEFFJAGUAR

    What is happening to the LTE data in Europe. That is scheduled to end 01 September. Is that finished too? Their foreign high speed data was a great advantage they had over their competition and the use of foreign sims.

    • nearvanaman

      Looks like it’ll be back to 2G. I just posted above about my current experience in Poland and the speeds are not great. When I DM’d them before I left to confirm the promotion, they focused on ‘2G and 3G speeds’ being available because it depends on the network signal. They deliberately downplayed the LTE speeds. It’s a lot better than 2G but hard to describe it as LTE.

  • mjfadaway

    I’m sorry people but TMobile is full of crap. Why doesn’t anyone see that?

    • Adam

      Have you been reading other’s comments? Most agree “TMobile is full of crap”.

    • Joe

      This Uncarrier move is full of crap. Tmobile as a company is not full of crap. They have been good up until this point.

      • mjfadaway

        I disagree. They are like the antichrist of the mobile world. They’ve sucked everyone into believing that they are the best thing ever when that’s far from the truth. What they are is the king of fine the fine print. A very deceptive company. Changing the game in the worst way.

    • ShutUp

      In what specific way is this affecting you to make you feel this way?

  • Mixed feelings about this (well, mostly negative). For people who barely use data, seems weird that it could be too expensive to join T-Mobile? I guess this is why we got a 17-hour notice instead of a weeklong ramp up like previous Uncarrier announcements.

    I liked the promotion where the 4th line was free, making my 10GB+Data Stash plan more affordable, and LTE tethering was included. Even tethered tablets get BingeOn and Music Freedom. This one is more expensive and loses those capabilities.

    If T-Mobile is going with this ONE more expensive yet limiting plan going forward, people better grandfather themselves into the ‘legacy’ plans now.

    Uncarrier 12 is definitely on its way to polarizing people as much as this election cycle.

  • John

    This is great, this will get me a nice bonus! What’s that!? I deserve a bonus too… You haters! Go away!

  • Isaiah

    I would encourage people to go to the FCC website to file a Net Neutrality Complaint against T Mobile since their new plans are violating the FCC Net Neutrality Order by charging for paid prioritization.

    • Guest

      That’s a good idea. Looks like NN will be the only thing that could stop this BS. Also contact other organizations like the EFF.

    • theicehog

      I don’t like the plan so I’m not defending it but this isn’t Net Neutrality. This is just like paying for a higher internet speed with your home internet. Binge On was more of a Net Neutrality violation than this is. I think that’s why they went that route.

      • Isaiah

        No it is not like paying for a higher or lower speed since it does not apply to all traffic equally, the video traffic is only affected. T Mobile identifies video traffic and downgrades it to 480P. But that was not a problem with Binge On since you could turn it off for free so their was no paid prioritization with the older plans so the FCC let it go and took a wait and see approach. Now their new T Mobile One Plans have the same Binge on restrictions but you can no longer turn it off for free. In order to turn Binge On off in their new plans you have to pay $25.00 per line. So now you have paid prioritization going on for video traffic which is a clear and cut violation of the FCC Net Neutrality order.

        • TK – Indy

          Many people seem to have this view, including myself – but I have to think that they would have run this by the FCC before doing it. I guess we will see, lots of FCC complaints already filed on it.

  • Isaiah

    T Mobile USA is going to drive all their customers over to Metro PCS. Just like AT&T Wireless is driving all of their customers over to Cricket Wireless.

    • emcdonald75

      I am seriously considering Cricket and using my tablet with T-Mobile. I can pay $35 for a 6GB plan with BingeOn for my tablet on T-Mobile and $70 for Unlimited Plan with Cricket, which is cheaper than the $160 I’m paying for one tablet with 5GB of data and one phone with Unlimited Data on T-Mobile now.

      • emcdonald75

        Sorry, I included my phone and tablet EIPs in that math; so it would be $100 for just the plan prices along with my 15% discount.

        • ShutUp

          Lol… cricket still sound good to you?

          Unfortunately, the average customer does the math the same way..

    • JG

      Cricket would be great if they didn’t charge for tethering.

  • Brucipher

    Instead of calling this Un-carrier 12, we should call it Carrier 1. T-Mobile is starting down a dark path with this one…

    • Perfect. I joined up on Uncarrier 1 when I knew this was the company with which I wanted to do business. Looks like I might go out with Carrier 1.

      • Jon

        Why would you leave? Your plan stays the same…

        And no doubt they’ll do Uncarrier 18 or something one day to eventually bring back one of the cheaper simple choice alternatives. My plan is currently the 2-lines for $100 promo they had a year or so ago, and I’ll stick with it until I can find something better. After that promo people said “TMO is done with unlimited data!”, blah blah. And here we are again, with another unlimited data offer.

        It all comes back around.

        • ShutUp

          Exactly. Everyone is complaining because they didnt get their own personal uncarrier move.

          What changed for current TMO customers from yesterday to todays announcement?

          Absolutely nothing.

        • Steven

          It’s not about people being mad they didn’t get a “personal” uncarrier move… open your eyes. It’s about being a T-Mobile fan. People like being a part of something they support, and T-Mobile empowers the customer. People are upset because this WILL hurt T-Mobile’s growth. If growth slows, money for network improvements slows. Everything hurts. People are upset because this looks like it would do much more harm than good in the greater picture, deterring people from switching over. Rather than assume why people are upset, think about it from that perspective.

        • Brucipher

          I agree with this. I am not personally upset, because I still have a great plan and don’t plan to change it or leave T-Mobile. It is just disappointing after all of the great strides T-Mobile has been taking to see them move backwards. Guess like others have said, it was bound to happen eventually.

        • JG

          Same. Well said. Thanks.

        • JG

          I actually agree with this. I can see it happening for sure. Unless, of course that darn rumor yesterday about Sprint wanting to merge with T-Mobile comes about. Then it’s all up in the air, haha.

    • Henry Pham

      I have a feeling my next carrier will be Google Fi considering where the four carriers are heading.

  • Adam

    2012 called and they want their business model back. The ultimate irony is that John himself prevented single pricing from working when he announced un-carrier 1.0 in 2013. The idea behind single pricing and bundling in general is to get customers to buy more than they need. In non-competitive industries, such as cable, this works because customers only have take it or leave it options. Mobile networks used to be one of these non-competitive industries. Mobile networks are now very competitive, thanks to John pushing the others guys to get off their lazy butts and work for their customers. Ironically for T-Mobile, if it was not for John, the wireless network industry could have waited many more years before becoming competitive, allowing for single pricing to work for those years.

    The posters yesterday predicting John leaving T-Mobile are correct. This is the type of behavior you see in a CEO just before retirement. A massive price increase leads to a temporary jump in profits. John will get a nice bonus out of the new profits. Eventually, customers find the completion is offering better deals and start to leave, resulting in losses. Finally, John will pull the cord on his golden parachute. John will become a shining example of the principal-agent problem.

    • (J²)

      While I get your point, I don’t believe this is this case.

      Sprint, AT&T and Verizon have caved to the pressure caused by T-Mobile’s antics and since this is a corporate case of “monkey see, monkey do” T-Mobile is having a very hard time remaining several steps ahead of the competition.

      Sprint is not a threat to T-Mobile, Verizon and AT&T are.

      T-Mobile is running out of rabbits to pull out of the hat. It now has to do things that the others will not do.

      Yes, in the short term some customers will pay the price but it does ensure that T-Mobile doesn’t go into another tail spin like it did several years ago.

      With some minor tweaks, T-Mobile One will be a good thing.

      T-Mobile is also attempting to address several problems:

      – Unlimited data sustainability
      – Those who are using hacks to tether much further beyond their allotted data tier.
      – Competition is forcing T-Mobile to make bolder moves.

      • Adam

        The new pricing is an increase over the previous prices for the AVERAGE new customer. T-Mobile has changed their goal from getting as many customers as possible to attracting only a select group.

        • (J²)

          It has been announced on another article, late yesterday afternoon (after many of these comments) that T-Mobile WILL be T-Mobile’s plan of choice but only the current Unlimited Plan and eventually 10GB plan will be phased out until they decide to revamp plans again like they tend to do twice a year anyway.

          If you think about it, this is an Unlimited Data A La Carte. Besides the changes to tethering that people don’t tend to use often (if at all), this plan is priced almost the same as the existing plan.

          It’s a small increase if you want all the bells and whistles but if you don’t you’ll be able to take advantage of some savings.

      • ShutUp

        Spot on assessment IMO. The only people complaining are current TMO customers who can only be affected by this if they CHOOSE to be.

        Im fairly certain that a ton of current Att/Verizon customers will love these new plans compared to what they currently have.

        We’ve all been spoiled by not having to watch our data consumption..

  • Bruce Wayne

    Hello, ProjectFi.

    • Quimi

      I really like the idea of Project Fi, but I use waaaayyyy too much data per month to justify the cost. Waiting for a better/bundled plan in future.

      • Matt

        You may not have to wait too long. Virgin Mobile may be making a big announcement. I even have my eye on it and I am a happy T-Mo/Metro customer.

    • emcdonald75

      The data costs will kill you. I am surprised Google hasn’t come down in price to $5 per GB, which is still expensive, but better than $10/GB.

    • Android_God

      I tried Project X but came back to T-Mobile. It really got old real fast having to monitor your data usage.

    • Ordeith
    • Ordeith

      and give Google more of my data? no thank you!

  • Android_God

    I’m sorry I’m a bit confused here… I didn’t see a mention of Music freedom being eliminated but is this the case? We have the 2 gig plan does that mean we’re about to lose music freedom?

    • (J²)

      This only applies to T-Mobile One plans.

      • Android_God

        Thank you!

  • Nugget

    I believe they are slowly trying to keep up with the cost to support the current capacity they have for the amount of data bandwidth being used, and so raising the prices will help improve their infrastructure for additional growth. Just an opinion, i’m sure others have different views.

    • jozefd14

      I just hope Music Freedom will STILL be around… they didn’t mention that…

      • (J²)

        Binge On and Music Freedom were services that allowed you to stream without going against your data allowance. If T-Mobile is moving towards T-Mobile One… These “gimmicks” will fade away. Of course, the services will still be there for those who don’t switch to the new plans as always.

        So to answer your question, yes and no.

        • jozefd14

          That’s why I don’t think I’ll be switching to T-Mobile 1 because MOST especially, Music Freedom is the thing that’s keeping me on the 2 GB data plan. I use mainly internet at home but when I need internet, I’m either on wifi or cellular… mostly wifi.. even at school/work…

  • Aleks

    To be honest. I saw this coming.

    I see it like this….

    John Legere and T-Mobile figured by making them the “uncarrier” network and making people believe in fairy tale plans and offers, people would come in flocks. And in flocks they came. But with a bigger population of subscribers comes more costs and current prices weren’t going to sustain the network in the long term. With that said, they waited for all of these factors to become a part of their identity so that it wouldn’t make much of a difference when they finally pulled the switcheroo and became very much like their competitors. This is essentially what happened. Kind of like when a drug dealer has a new product and he gives his buyers a “free” sample so that eventually they will get hooked and come back for more. That is exactly what happened here. People got hooked to T-Mobile for being the “people’s” network with their uncarrier moves which made customers want more and more. T-Mobile figured now would be the best time to capitalize on this even though there has been a moderate increase in data prices over the course of time. As a result, now we have this ONE size fits all plan but with certain caveat’s. You can buy what you need on top of the regular ONE size plan at additional costs.

    What is this called…..

    Typical Business Model. T-Mobile is done being your friend and is ready to take more from your pocket. They are now thinking with a corporate mindset with the people’s concerns on the back burner.

    Welcome to Corporate America. :)

    • Matt

      It certainly does appear this way. This opens the door for Marcelo Claure at Sprint to do something game changing.

      • Aleks

        Not necessarily. I still feel John Legere is a great CEO but he can’t abandon his companies investors and long term, there needs to be money coming in or the current business model would strain the company and cause tensions to rise. John Legere is a great CEO, he has done his best and it is time for him to think with his corporate mind for the betterment of T-Mobile.

        • Matt

          I think you’re a corporate apologist.

        • Aleks

          Actually no. I like lower prices, but if I was a CEO, at some point, I need to be CEO or I will be ousted for being too soft and for the people.

    • Yep. It’s a business. Their strategy worked. John Legere is a genius and will be rewarded accordingly. Meanwhile, he’ll either go disrupt another industry or will retire and the wireless industry will return to it’s Old World status, where the big boys all are pretty similar with how they shaft the customer.

      Thanks John, it was fun while it lasted.

    • Acdc1a

      You fail to understand economies of scale. More subscribers = less cost to service each subscriber. Your conclusion is correct but you were all wrong in how you got there.

      • Aleks

        Actually the cost of each subscriber is much more thank you think when it comes to wireless providers. More data users means more constrains on the network that cost more than what the subscriber originally outs in per month. I’m sure I’ll stick with what I said and you shove your nonsense up your arse. SMH!!!

        • Acdc1a

          Everyone’s an expert. Carriers used to put in their quarterly filing the cost to service each subscriber. I’ll give you a hint…the more subscribers you have, the less to service each one.

        • Adam

          Installing and maintaining towers is what’s expensive.

        • Acdc1a

          Why is it so painful…my head hurts. When T-Mobile serviced 33 million customers in 2011 their quarterly overhead was $4.528 billion. Now that they serve 67 million their quarterly overhead must be WAY over $9.193 billion per your logic right?

          NO!

          T-Mobile’s expenses were $8.454 billion. The cost to service each subscriber is down.

    • JG

      All sounds right to me. Forgot to add one thing… after they take this step to make their network appear more valuable to potential buyers, they sell the business and move on to something else with the profits.

      • Aleks

        Exactly…..and that is what I call……BU$INE$$.

  • Geoffrey

    TMO is now slowly turning on the profit spigot.

    • Yep. This is the shareholders’ reward now that the network is solid, customer service is tops, and churn is low.

      If they start forcing people onto Simple Choice – either by mandate or by eliminating things like Music Freedom – will be interesting to see where that churn ends up.

      • ShutUp

        Im not a stock expert by any means, but 2 years ago the share price was like $12. Now its around $48. Ive been a shareholder for 3 years and im extremely happy already. Am i missing something?

  • Whiskers

    Thanks but no thanks T-Mobile.
    I’ll keep my 2 lines unlimited everything for $100/month .

    • ShutUp

      T-Mobile even admits that you should stick with that plan

  • TK – Indy

    This might create a market for legacy T-mobile unlimited data lines much like the one that exists for Verizon. As to the new plans – one size fits all is almost always a bad idea. Hang on to your grandfathered plans, they will likely be worth something someday soon.

  • skywalkr2

    They Better leave my family 10gb plan alone.

  • Matt

    Verizon prices at a network that doesn’t match Verizon? No thank you. I’ll stay a MetroPCS customer.

    • JG

      Pretty much says it all right there. John Legere are you listening? Not attractive to potential new customers.

    • ShutUp

      You should stay with MetroPCS if it works for you. Whats the problem?

  • emcdonald75

    Sprint released their Unlimited Capped Plan too today. We pay some of the highest prices in the world to enjoy our capped data plans. What’s next!? We have to build or buy and maintain our own small cells or macro towers to ensure access to a carrier’s frequency leased to them by the public. Lol

  • So it looks like those of us on tiered plans might be grandfathered, but a BIG PART of being able to stay on tiered plans depends on Music Freedom (and BingeOn, which looks like it’s staying). For those on my family plan, the big reason we were able to stick with limited plans was because of Music Freedom.

    If that goes bye-bye, it will be an easy way for them to force people off Simple Choice and on to this new plan. Not sure what I’ll do if that happens. We have five lines and T-MobileONE is not cost-effective in the slightest for us.

    • Isaiah

      Those features would have to stay because they were included with our plans meaning they would be grandfathered in.

      • We’re not on any contract. The only thing keeping us on those plans is John’s claim a year ago that we can stay on whatever plan we’re on for life. They can change things whenever they want, no?

        • JG

          This is the way I understand it also. No contract, can change whenever. I challenged a tmo rep on that last year. As good as a tmo rep response I could get was that even though it’s not a signed ‘set in stone’ type of feature, it can go away, but there has been no talk of that so don’t worry about it. I have 6 lines and we enjoy the current plan we are on. If it’s disrupted, we’ll move to verizon. Even though vzw costs more (at this time, maybe not with the TMo One plan anymore), it’s the coverage that has been causing me to lose confidence staying with tmo. I love the plan, but buying me out with ‘free’ stuff every Tuesday isn’t making the network better. Anyway, technically there is no contract, but I feel comfortable that our current plans will stay untouched for awhile at least. Could be wrong, I’m just a paying customer and don’t know the inside cooler talk. But, I’m not too worried at this point.

        • Agreed on all counts. It will be a shame if they do away with these things that made T-Mo such a great deal for so many of us. But if that’s what happens, that’s just the way it goes I guess. As I said before, with Uncarrier12, the direction is clear. My love affair with T-Mo since Uncarrier1 is over.

          If pricing is the same, I’ll bite the bullet and go back to Verizon and enjoy the coverage everywhere.

          The “Get Thanked” BS needs to go as well. I don’t need free stuff. Just improve your coverage and make sure data speeds stay solid.

      • TK – Indy

        For a time this will work. I doubt there will be new services added, so attrition will reduce the benefit of this as new services become popular, and old ones end.

        • Isaiah

          I do not know what other services could be added of value since their T Mobile One Plan is unlimited data. I have switch my plan to the Unlimited plan so I can get grandfathered in.

  • nearvanaman

    I actually agree with unlimited data as it’s been going that was for a while. But to handicap tethering as they have is a disgrace. They should have allowed a specific amount of tethering at LTE speeds or unlimited at HSPA+ speeds, not 2G.

    I’m in Poland at the moment taking advantage of “unlimited 4G LTE data”. But the reality is that the speeds are puny, usually around 1-2 Mbps. The odd time you will get more, but not often. It’s all a bit smoke and mirrors.

    • JG

      I’ll buy into a data cap on the high speed tethering option. I agree, it should have been this way on the new plan offerings.

    • Bill Main

      Have you tried switching off Automatic for carrier and trying another? I was in Mexico last week where we get unlimited high speed and it was awful. So I switched off Automatic and selected a specific carrier (in this case TELCEL) and it worked great. I only tried it because the locals told me it was the best service in the area,

      • nearvanaman

        Thanks for the suggestion. I have tried to turn off Automatic, but it just swivels for minutes on “searching” instead of giving me a list of carriers. I’ll try it again later.

  • stuman19741974 .

    For most families of 4-5 users, wouldn’t they probably be better off signing up for the current 6GB/line plan while they still can? Costs $40 less, has rollover data, and better tethering.

  • sgtguthrie

    It’s like the nickel and dime plan. For me to have what I need, I would pay much more. I’m content with my 10 gigs for all plan.

    • Les

      That’s what I got right before it expired! 10Gig on 5 lines + you get the datastash so I usually always have an extra 10-20Gig if I need it.

  • JG

    John Legere, your new T-Mobile One plan just made Verizon more enticing to switch to. You’re ditching the ‘Simplicity’ that comes with the ‘Simple Choice’ plans in favor of itemized pricing? This doesn’t feel like an ‘Uncarrier’ type move to me. It honestly feels like you’re stepping back, and you’ve just given your competitors a hand out with this one. I just don’t see how this is attractive to new customers. 2g tethering, $5 penalty for not being on autopay, $15 for high speed tethering, $25 for HD video. From a customer’s perspective, I don’t see this as something I’d want to ‘Jump’ into. As a new customer comparing pricing and services, I’d take verizon for the better coverage for similar prices.
    Fortunately for me, I have the 4 lines, 10GB plan. I’ve been telling friends about it for a year and some of them were really considering T-Mobile for service. When I shared the new T-Mobile One plan as unbiased as I could be with one potential new customer, his comment was “Lame!”

    • Christian D

      why are you messaging john legere here? this ain’t his site and he won’t even read your comment here. email him personally. John.Legere@T-Mobile.com

      • thepanttherlady

        John has actually commented here before so it is possible. :) With that being said, I agree. If someone has something to say, emailing him directly or reaching out to him on Twitter are probably better.

      • JG

        I’ve done that before (sent email to that address). A T-Mobile account rep from a call center will respond. John Legere loves himself so much he might just do a search for his name and find talk about him here.

    • As a avid fan of T-Mobile, I have to also voice my disappointment in this latest development. We were the underdog and we all helped make T-Mobile climb to the top of the charts, with all of John Legere’s zany antics and announcements throughout the various Uncarrier movements. Nearly every previous one was beneficial or breakthrough, but this is the one is where it can actually crash their winning streak.

      Now, granted, most CURRENT subscribers will be smart enough NOT to switch into this plan, as it loses the freedom of LTE tethering and BingeOn toggling, but this actually hurts me as a customer and supporter that might not be able to convince prospective customers, whether it be family or friends, to switch into this new, worse plan (and the only plan to be available). I’m not even considering the fact that it’s going to be a lot harder to gain those T-Mobile StockUp shares in referrals with this new plan, too.

  • Philip

    Isnt the greatest deal of it is 2 lines unlimited for $100? Mine is 3 lines(4th line free) for $150 unlimited data + 14gb of hotspot each. This never going to come back?

    • AxelCloris

      I just recently found out about that special and I’m sad I missed it. Oh well, such is life.

    • Bradley Karas

      Right! I got the OLD plan with the international calling, texting and unlimited data no binge on garbage for $70. If they try doing me like Verizon and AT&T and making me switch my plan to jump to a new phone I’m gone!!! I’ll buy a phone for cash if I have to! This new plan is garbage I’m glad on I got my gf on the 6gb plan to save some dough before they switched to this crap. Pain point my a$$ you don’t charge overages so where was the pain point JOHN??

      • Panzer

        Technically you still have the option for Binge on. I have the same plan. I tried Binge on to see if get the Vudu credit. I didn’t.

    • Hector Escobedo

      All Tmobile lines have binge on enabled even the unlimited plans you have to disable them.480p looks great on 5 inch displays
      The new hotspot plan bugs me

  • Philip

    This plan is simply awful! Tether at 2G speed? Remember the dial up modem days? Only 480p video? Have to pay more on both instance? T-mobile is going down!

  • Ordeith

    Too expensive, too little coverage.
    Same old T-Mobile.

    • Les Wyatt

      Get a good phone that has Band 12 LTE and you will be amazed. I didn’t think they had Band 12 LTE near me but they do. I can’t use my OnePlus 2 once I walked into the door at a Kroger near me, but with the new Moto G4 it works anywhere in the store.

      • Matt

        This is true. I have a band 12 capable device and it has really made the difference.

        • matt

          they still have that deal i think. where if you finance a band 12 phone and if your coverage sucks, you can continue financing the unlocked phone and switch carriers ( and continue to make your device payments ) . that way you only have to pay t-mobile for the phone. good luck trying to get sprint or AT&T to unlock your phone before its paid off or because you owe them money

        • Matt

          I’m a MetroPCS customer. I’ve been prepaid since 2009. No need for me to go postpaid because there is substantially more value in prepaid.

        • TK – Indy

          I agree – it is looking like postpaid makes sense only for those who travel overseas or need to finance a phone. Maybe really big families, as well.

        • Matt

          Even the family prepaid plans on Metro, Boost, and Cricket are very attractive.

        • matt

          t-mobile only gives certain features like Binge on and Data Stash to post paid subscribers. take the ipad for example. ipad prepaid only gives you canada and Mexico and music freedom, pay the exact same amount at the end of the month and your ipad or internet device gets canada and mexico, music freedom, binge on, data stash and t-mobile tuesdays

        • Acdc1a

          I go to the Bahamas regularly and travel occasionally to Canada so I’m sticking with postpaid. Otherwise you’re right.

      • Ricky Wong

        OnePlus 2 has band 12 though?

        Unless by “use”, you mean VoLTE..

    • Orly Duran

      Said no one ever

      • Ordeith

        Well, no fools anyway.
        Intelligent people say it all the time :)

      • irony

        funny because ordeith has tmo LOLOL

  • Matt

    The competition is now really in the prepaid side of the industry. It will be really interesting to see what comes up between MetroPCS, Cricket, Boost, and Virgin in the coming month or two.

    I am puzzled by this T-Mobile ONE plan because it makes prepaid that much more attractive. This new plan seems like it would be the nail in the postpaid coffin.

  • emcdonald75

    T-Mobile must not feel so good about the costs of the incentive auction to have such a focus on a universal data optimization plan. The 600MHz auction has already reached $10 billion in bids with $88 billion to go to end the auction with the current amount of spectrum.

  • dontsh00tmesanta

    1. You get unlimited data, Verizon doesn’t offer it and att requires you to have directv
    2. Most people don’t care for HD video on their phone they just care to watch videos snapchat and social media they won’t notice that resolution on that tiny screen
    3. How many actually use tethering legally?
    4. Last would be the other options are prepaid cricket is awesome have used 50gb with zero issues

    • Isaiah

      1. All their plans are virtually unlimited now due to Binge On & Music Freedom. Their current unlimited data plans you can get HD Video with no fee by turning Binge On off. With their T Mobile One Plan you have to pay $25.00 per line for that. Not to mention their old Unlimited plans include 14GB of High Speed tethering data while their new unlimited plans include 0GB of high speed tethering data.
      2. People who pay for a high end phone are going to care.
      3. I use tethering legally with Binge On while I visit my Aunt and Uncles’ house for a couple of days.
      4. I would consider Cricket Wireless and other carriers if T Mobile forces T Mobile One on my account.

      • dontsh00tmesanta

        People on T-Mobile are gonna be on eip thus won’t care considering

        Only a few would care about 1%

        Out of that 1% of those whiners complain even though their plans won’t change

    • JG

      1. I basically get unlimited data with BingeOn, MusicFreedom, and DataStash. I can never use 30 GB/mo with my current activities. Yes, true.
      2. The video quality from BingeOn is good enough for me. I agree. Yes. True.
      3. I use tethering legally. About 2 times per week I need it. Capping tethering on an unlimited data plan would have been more welcoming to me.
      4. Cricket would be awesome, I have looked at them recently, but they also charge for tethering, which is something I use legally. Actually, looking at Cricket, even with the tethering charge, might be a good option to move to, if I felt a need.

      Lucky for me I suppose, I’m grandfathered in with the SimpleChoice plan. I see no incentive to me to go to the new T-Mobile One plan. Someone may (I’m not sure who yet, but someone just may).

      • dontsh00tmesanta

        Not everyone uses tethering nor knows about it lol but yea I’m sure there are people who use it however they are already on their plans so this wouldn’t affect

  • SP_Jon_M3

    The update (phasing out Simple Choice Plans): That’s just for new subscribers right? If they take away my grandfathered $70 unlimited, I’m gone…

    I used to be a big proponent of T-Mobile and convinced several people to switch. With this new One plan, I can’t in good confidence recommend them anymore. They now they seem to be loosing the ‘Un’ from their uncarrier branding.

    • Isaiah

      I agree will leave too if they take away my Simple Choice Plan. I just switched to Unlimited Simple Choice Plan so I could get grandfathered into that plan.

  • Once again T-Mobile finds a way to cram a ~20% price increase on people, and that’s for folks on unlimited now — if you want anything approaching parity in features. What’s worse is that when they start killing the lower tiers; the increase in price THEN (e.g. against their current 6Gb offering, all of which can be used via Hotspot, and all of which then downgrades to 2G when the bucket is exceeded) winds up being a SIXTY PERCENT price increase. #OligarchsForPrison2016, Legere first.

    • Robert Dunn

      Well, what I am seeing is T-Mobile becoming a sort of premium brand focusing on postpaid family plans, which is why it relies on MetroPCS and its MVNO partners as its prepaid brand for single users.

  • Matt

    I think this plan is the nail in the coffin for postpaid. If you don’t travel much outside of North America, there is really no reason to go with postpaid. You’ll have better value, even with a prepaid family plan.

    • IJK

      Indeed. I fail to understand why so many people do postpaid.

    • Nate595

      Do you get the same speeds with prepaid? A lot of prepaid carriers cap your speeds but I’m not sure if that’s 100% the case with T-mobile prepaid.

      • Matt

        MetroPCS is full speed LTE

  • I bet a lot of people wished the mystery announcement was a Sprint merger or something else instead of this mess.

    • lomsha

      Nope, sprint merger would still be worse.

      • Matt

        I was hoping it would be a merger with US Cellular.

    • Adrayven

      hell no.. a plan can be changed.. a merger attempt again with Sprint cannot be undone..

  • Panzer

    Wow, I just called Customer Service and the wait is insane. People must be going nuts about this plan. I’ve never had much a wait before.

  • It’s a little ridiculous, I know, but I just emailed this to John at T-Mo. He will never see it, but it was fun writing it, and now maybe I can get on with my day knowing I don’t have to be a T-Mo fanboi anymore. lol

    Hi John,

    I don’t expect you to read this, or care, but I thought I’d write in anyway.

    I spent 12 years as a Verizon customer. I had an unlimited data plan on three lines where the extra two lines were $10 each all-in. It was a special deal only offered once, and I held onto it for dear life. My bill was still around $230 a month with all the fees and extra stuff, but that was less than lots of others were paying for the same service. Still, there were the occasional fees and extra charges, and I was one of those unhappy Verizon customers who just felt like he was paying way too much for a basic service.

    Then you came along with T-Mobile and the Uncarrier 1, where you said no more contracts. If you like us, stay, but if we fail you, you can leave.

    I knew at that moment that T-Mobile was turning into a special company that I wanted to be part of. I paid my early termination fees (about $500), bought three new Nexus 4 phones, and signed up with a very basic plan.

    Then you introduced Music Freedom, and that feeling of data squeezing ended. I also signed up my in-laws on our plan, putting two more lines on my account with you. That 2.5GB plan was great for all of us. Then you offered the 10GB plan, and I just couldn’t resist locking in that price, despite the fact that three of our lines never used more than about 1GB.

    In short, I kept “buying in” to T-Mo, and spending more money with you. You improved the network coverage in areas like NH where I go on vacation.

    I guess I knew a day of reckoning would come eventually. I mean, your network is faster than Verizon or AT&T, your customer service is top notch. I guess now that you’re getting all these awards, it was time to reward the shareholders.

    So I see the plan – now that you’re competitive, you decide it’s time to start “Carrier 1” where you become one of the big boys with your add-ons for this, extra charges for that, etc. and a plan that doesn’t really fit everyone, especially families that don’t use that much data.

    I get it, John. It’s almost time to cash out.

    And good for you. You’ve done a lot for us, and a lot for your shareholders. T-Mobile has been building to this, and now you can let the MVNO’s take care of the cheap folks who just want a solid network at a good price. You can charge a premium price now and leave with the shareholders and owners happy. They can sell T-Mo or merge with another company and do very well for themselves with all the work you and your team have done.

    I just wanted to say thanks for the ride. It was a lot of fun, and I got a bunch of folks to switch to you. I watched as the LTE towers went up in NH and every year when I went there, I found more and more places I could get my Waze to work.

    But the love affair is over.

    I never thought I’d say this, but I can now see breaking up with you.

    I’m sorry it’s come to this.

    It’s not me, it’s you.

    But thanks for the memories.

    • ShutUp

      Why not just stick witb the plan youre already happy with?

  • Guest

    TmoNews should make an article of the negative reception of Un-carrier 12. And maybe add some info on current promos for people to adjust their plans before the new plan takes effect.

    • Matt

      Or just scrap the idea altogether?

      • Guest

        That’s gonna be hard. Some people on reddit are talking about a petition to T-Mobile. Others here want others to contact the FCC claiming a NN violation.

  • SBacklin

    I don’t think this plan was well thought out. Lol. I mean, why pay $25 to disable BingeOn/be able to watch HD when you hit the de-priortiziation cap either way. See I think this is why T-Mobile is now phasing out the old plans for new customers because they know this plan sucks and most of any sane current customer wouldn’t touch it. So they got to force it on new customers.

    • Matt

      I’ve said it before and I will say it again, the value is in prepaid. Unless you simply must finance a phone or travel heavily outside of North America, postpaid will end up costing you a lot more.

      • maanshu

        Thats right. Economy is not healthy, thats why this is the last stage for tmobile to shake things up before they get hostile takeover.

  • Yep

    I can’t wait for UnCarrier 13 to release T-Mobile TWO!

    • Isaiah

      You mean carrier 2.

      • Guest

        So this means Uncarrier 12 is: T-Mobile Carrier 1

        • Isaiah

          Yes it is. I do not consider T Mobile One Plan Uncarrier. It is so a carrier move.

        • Guest

          I agree, and T-Mobile Carrier ONE should be the name we use for it.

  • If the data is unlimited, why do you even need Binge on and video compression. The data is unlimited, you can watch whatever you want, at whatever resolution you want…

    • BKPhil

      Right? Something fishy about all of this.

      Maybe it’s “Unlimited Data (but we’ll force cap all video to 480)” ?

    • squiggleslash

      You don’t need it, they need it. T-Mobile requires the use of Binge-On to make this type of plan practical. Video streaming is especially problematic with mobile data systems, a small number of people can rapidly render a tower unusable for everyone else by trying to stream high bandwidth video.

      • So on this new plan I won’t have a choice to turn it off… That really sucks!

        • Acdc1a

          Sure you do, pony up another $25.

        • ShutUp

          Or…… dont switch to it.

      • BKPhil

        Their dilemma is real, I suppose. In 2015, video accounted for 55% of mobile data.

        That said, removing video from the equation (by throttling it into submission) pretty much renders the unlimited claim meaningless. I’ll have to send 16 million emails or read 18 trillion tweets to get anywhere near 2GB/month of usage, so…. yeah, unlimited, whatever. They might as well make it a 2GB plan with unlimited BingeOn, same difference.

        • Acdc1a

          I burn 6-8GB each month on things that aren’t white listed.

        • Panzer

          That’s a lot of games and web browsing.

    • PD

      You don’t. I’m guessing people didn’t use binge on as much as Tmo wanted them to.

  • Dark enV

    Well I’m not a fan of this new plan at all and won’t be touching it with a ten foot pole. My first big issue is with the autopay. You shouldn’t be showing the price and then say that’s only with autopay and it’s $5 more PER line, that is absolutely ridiculous. I have a plan with 10 people on it. We all pay at different times and with different cards. If we went to this plan we really couldnt do autopay unless we had a prepaid card that we filled before the bill was due each month so unless we did that this would cost us an additional $50 on the bill. Next would be about video streaming. Unlimited standard def isn’t bad but $25 more to have HD video per line????? That’s $250 extra if all of the lines I have want HD video. Thirdly is the hotspot option. Unlimited 2G hotspot……. that’s essentially dial up Internet if you need to use the hotspot unless you pay $15 more for only 5GB. My current plan is perfect for my lines and I will not leave it for this. All my lines have 10GB each with data stash and two of us have unlimited data with 14GB hotspot. We pay $280 just for the service and that’s $20 cheaper than what this plan would be with autopay enabled and we’d essentially be getting less in the end. Not a fan at all.

    • ShutUp

      Its great to have OPTIONS isnt it? Nobody is forcing you to switch to anything

      • Dark enV

        Oh I know but I’m also thinking about future customers. The “options” are just a bit too ridiculous in cost now and the structure of the plan is odd.

  • Frankwhitess

    Okay guys( and if there is any ladies , Ladies !) …

    It’s Official !!! NO ONE LIKES THESE NEWS PLANS !!

    TIME TO WRITE TO JOHN THRU TWITTER AND VOICE OR THOUGHTS !!!

    • Isaiah

      Do not Forget to also file an FCC Complaint for the Net Neutrality Violation in their new plans. Paid Prioritization is not allowed under the FCC Net Neutrality order.

      • Let me play Devil’s Advocate for a second. How is this “Paid Prioritization” when it’s “un-prioritized” to begin with? Isn’t it paid normalization or paid re-prioritization?

        As far as I understand it, “paid prioritization” is when certain services are given a fast lane over the rest of the normal traffic flow. However, in the case of T-Mobile’s cellular data service, everything else is given the normal traffic flow and media is given a slow lane.

        • Adrayven

          Doesn’t matter what lane you call what.. you pay for a faster or discount for slow, it’s still ‘paying’ for extra speed to get to your content. period.

          Before, it was optimization (you could keep it or leave it, at no cost)..

        • As such, attorneys on both sides could interpret the FCC regulations differently as people have noted, so time will tell if it’s really a violation or not.

        • Sean McLaughlin

          You’re right. That’s the legal loophole they’re going with. Just like how it’s not legal to fine me for smoking under my insurance, so they just give non-smokers a “tax credit” to lessen their cost of the “standard rate”. It’s disingenuous, but legal, apparently.

    • squiggleslash

      Speak for yourself. Right now the only objection I have is the tethering implementation. Otherwise it looks like generally an improvement.

  • Isaiah

    Did anybody else notice too that John Legere was sort of avoiding or not directly answering questions and also he did not go all out on Uncarrier 12 compared to the previous Uncarrier events. It is like he knew it was a carrier move and went as fast as he could with announcing those changes.

    • Derek

      According to reports, he called an emergency press conference so that he could beat out Sprints Announcement of unlimited which they planned on announcing and launching tomorrow. That’s why T-Mobile isn’t launching it for several weeks whereas Sprint is starting tmw.

    • SP_Jon_M3

      Have you seen their twitter feed? They are telling people to DM them when those people are calling out the new plans. Trying to take the discussion offline as people are questioning why this new ‘better’ plan is expensive yes has less options as the old plans.

      Really disappointing that they’ve started a u-turn from the ‘uncarrier’ movement. Come September 6 I can no longer recommend t-mo to anyone.

  • Brandon Matthews

    I see a lot of negative comments, but from this verizon customer it seems like a better deal than what I have. I pay Well over their plan for 4 people and I only have three lines and 2gb of shared data per line. Plus I’m charged if I go over it. Seems good to me.

    • Sean McLaughlin

      It’s like people complaining about the choice between Hillary and Trump, though. Just because one is slightly better than the other doesn’t mean it’s a good thing to be praised. Just because the holocaust was worse than the Serbian genocide didn’t mean Milosevic should get a pass… lol All in all T-Mobile is ignoring net neutrality (I see a lawsuit coming eventually) with their “binge on” plan, and they’re becoming more and more guilty of false advertising in their “unlimited plans” using small print to explain what unlimited means to them. This is expected since they’re getting bigger, but when a company makes your plan worse, I think there’s ample reason to complain. For most people, the reason they picked their carrier was the plan. Now T-Mobile is switching em up on us, and if you financed a phone through em you’re stuck. MUCH to complain about in my humble opinion.

      • ShutUp

        No. You can keep your current plan forever.

    • SP_Jon_M3

      I’d switch now if you’re planning on switching. You can still get in with the older plans and they should be grandfathered. Not sure what you’re paying with Verizon, but with 4 lines you can get the following data for each line:
      2gb x4 lines $100/mo
      6gb x4 lines $120/mo
      10gb x4 lines $160/mo
      Unl x4 lines $220/mo

      https://www.t-mobile.com/cell-phone-plans.html#4lines2gb

      • Acdc1a

        If you don’t tether this os better than the 4 lines 10gb program if you need that much. I’m using 6-8 of my 10 and some is tethering so I’m not switching…but this could be excellent for some.

  • Guest

    Video streaming and downloads at 1.5Mbps without an off switch, and tethering at 2G speeds!? I knew T-Mobile was doing bad things for consumers, but I would have never imagined they would do something like this.

    This must be a nightmare… Google. How do I wake up from a nightmare? Enter.

    • 21stNow

      Google’s answer: Join Project Fi! It’s not a great option for those that use a lot of cellular data, though.

      • Guest

        Thanks Google, I’ll try Bing now. ;)

    • ShutUp

      Are downloads affected too? I thought it was just video streaming??

  • Bob Archer

    Does this mean they eventually won’t have ANY plans other than this $70/mo one?

    • Isaiah

      Yes and they are also going to make this the only plan you can get on the T Mobile Branded Post Paid and Pre Paid.

      • Bob Archer

        So, they are couching this price increase as this awesome thing. For those just carrying the 2gb or 6gb plans anyway. Guess I’ll have to get on that plan before this switch. Been putting off switching rest of family from Cricket, mainly because it seems to work for them, I couldn’t stand the slow cricket speeds.

        • Robert Dunn

          MetroPCS is also a good alternative. I assume it will still have the tiered data plans.

  • 21stNow

    With the bad experience that I had with money ‘disappearing’ from my prepaid account, there is no way that I would trust T-Mobile with Autopay. Discounts for autopay are customary in prepaid accounts, not postpaid accounts. T-Mobile should rethink this one.

  • BKPhil

    Long-time (VoiceStream!) customer here.

    I’m pretty happy with the plan I have now and presumably can hold on to, but in a year or two my kids are going to need lines, and if this garbage will remain your best (only!) offer, I’ll be taking my business elsewhere.

    There’s plenty not to like here, but the 2G tethering is the death knell for me. I don’t use it often, but for the handful of weekends or days a year where I find myself in a hotel room or maybe even a hospital bed, I need tethering to work well.

    • Fabian Cortez

      You can still add lines to your existing plan…

      • stuman19741974 .

        Is that true? I still have a grandfathered plan where extra lines are $10/mo for 2.5 GB. If I can still add an extra line without any other changes, that’s not too bad if they still honor it.

        • Acdc1a

          It’s true…and if you might need one you should

    • ShutUp

      You can also add the tethering feature on an “as needed” prorated basis since T-Mobile plans are month to month. Add it, use what you need, then cancel the feature. Makes sense, right?

  • FILA

    This plan is garbage! Having to add features on for a additional monthly fee. T-Mobile will now be more expensive then its rivals. Why should I have to pay to get better video quality. The simple choice plans were fine before this.

    • Jsun

      I was thinking sh*t but garbage is just as bad. A lot of the feature is something that is offered now without the additional charges and now they’re basically add on for more money. I’m not liking this plan at all and i wasnt really fond the signal quality of some places I go to. All this did for me was check other carriers and see if the difference is significant with same plan. I wouldn’t hesitate to switch to another carrier if the difference is minute for a slightly better coverage.

    • FILA

      Imagine the law suit about to come. How are they even gonna advertise this on TV. Unlimited everything for $70 with a million stars after it. Add $15 for this, add $15 for that, and you mise well add another $10 or $15 for that

    • ShutUp

      Then keep what you have now. Simple.

      • FILA

        Yea…I am, I’m stating the facts for people coming to T-Mobile. Its not good for business, and I hope something changes in the future in case I ever need to add a line on or change something which will force me to upgrade to a new plan

  • Sticking to my current Plan

    As stated by the T-moNews writer (Alex), I am better off with sticking to my current plan versus changing to a lower speed data plan. I wonder at times if John Legere is morphing tmobile to an ATT mix bags with these plans and prices…

    • Sean McLaughlin

      UPDATE: Here’s a quote from T-Mobile’s conference call today regarding T-Mo’s current Simple Choice plans:

      “We’ll begin to phase them out right away on Sept. 6 when T-Mobile One launches. We haven’t announced an end date for each of the plans, there will be a time period while we get our customers and our team transitioned, but we will begin phasing Simple Choice out on Sept. 6 when this plan launches. And some of the plans will remain for a short time thereafter.”

      • Sticking to my current Plan

        Thank you for the update and clarification!

      • Joe2050

        To summarize, they won’t be offering the old plans any more to new customers and will be offering only the T-Mobile One plan. But for existing subscribers they can keep their current plan or change to the new one if they feel like it which I imagine a lot of folks don’t.

        • Sean McLaughlin

          I hope you’re right, but I’m not sure where you see that it says existing customers can keep their plans.

        • Peanut

          I’ll copy the quote from the article above: “Existing T-Mobile subscribers can keep their current plan if they’d like.”

        • Sean McLaughlin

          Then the update I posted at the bottom of the article negated that.

        • Peanut

          Official Press release from T-Mobile:

          “Of course, current T-Mobile customers keep the plans they have, or they can choose to sign up with T-Mobile ONE. It’s their call.”

          https://newsroom.t-mobile.com/news-and-blogs/rip-data-plans.htm

          Re-negated the negated.

        • Sean McLaughlin

          lol, long as I get to keep my current plan I’m happy.Moving on… :)

      • Francisco Peña

        i wonder if Jump on Demand will still be available if I have it now.

        • Sean McLaughlin

          I don’t think the Jump programs are affected by this, but who knows. Won’t know everything until we see the fine print, I guess…

      • John

        Here’s a statement sheet from T-Mobile:
        https://newsroom.t-mobile.com/doc_download.cfm?doc_id=211

        Look under ‘Who Gets It’ and that should clarify the question on existing subscribers.

        • Sean McLaughlin

          Fair enough then, thanks. The update in the article was misleading then.

        • Sticking to my current Plan

          Simply said, thank you for the reference for existing customers. As I stated earlier, I will stick with my current plan…

  • Almonds

    I feel bad for the new people joining…it’s getting to the point where it’s slightly better than there previous carrier and not totally better like before terms of the new rates/price.

  • Steven

    So, basic question. I have a Simple Choice plan, post-paid, 2 lines, getting 6GB high speed per line, for $80. I never use all my 6GB, but come close. I dont need more. Am I going to be forced to now pay $120 for no benefit suddenly? Or can I keep my same plan?

    • Panzer

      You will not be forced to switch plans. I had the exact same question.

    • tony

      holy shit its got unlimited tethering.

      • Phone Guy

        No, it doesn’t. It has unlimited 2G data (unlimited stalling) which won’t do anything but open a very limited web page. You can do nothing with 2G, so in reality, they are giving you a feature that won’t really work. Next they are going to give all of us unlimited phone calls on the moon. (if you can find a way to get there and use the feature). Like this one, useless. You will have to pay to speed it up.

      • MisterSuperGod

        At 2G speeds.
        Which is what i have now if i use up all of my 4G LTE tethering first.

  • Ray

    They also increased the cost of international stateside calling from $10 to $15. It seems they forgot to mention that little price increase

    • Joel

      That change happened a while ago. They got rid of the $10 feature and made the $15 feature the only one available.

      • Ray

        Hmmm. I check that at least once a month when I go to pay my bill. I do not recall seeing it last month. Either way it sucks to see the uncarrier making carrier moves. I guess someone has to pay for Tmo’s new arena in Vegas?

        • Shane W

          Any price changes don’t affect you unless you remove the feature and add the “new” one with the “new” price.

  • teachuslove

    This is starting to smell like… THE OTHER CARRIERS.
    UNLIMITED…. but with lots of fine print (SD video streaming unless you pay $25 / line, 2G mobile hotspot unless you pay more money, and $5 penalty per line if you don’t use autopay). THIS. IS. TERRIBLE. And ultimately it will end up being more costly for the customer than current post paid plans. This really stinks John. Don’t blow your winning streak with this awful initiative. This is very UN-UNCARRIER. DON’T LET T-MOBILE GO DOWN LIKE THE REST OF THEM. YOU’RE BETTER THAN THIS.

  • I regularly use 60-70 gigs a month, and am still rocking the original $50 plan with $20 unlimited addon that I bought when I signed up in 2013.

    Paying $40 more than I am now to get the same thing as I have now doesn’t sound very uncarrier. In fact, it’s about the price I was paying AT$T in 2013 before I switched.

    • ShutUp

      The UnCarrier part is that you can keep your plan forever. They even say themselves that you SHOULD keep it.

  • sino8r

    This makes sense unfortunately. As a extremely long-time T-mobile user, I saw this coming a few years ago. T-mobile is expanding its consumer base further than its network can handle. This is the response to that. It will keep towers from being over crowded and speeds faster. As much as I like to hog data like alot of y’all, we do have wifi everywhere these days so maybe it won’t be THAT bad. I know lots of folks on unlimited (including myself) that won’t even switch on to wifi at work and at home even when it’s available. Maybe this will finally force us to do so. Again, hopefully this won’t be too bad but it certainly isn’t an “uncarrier” move. Oh well. Times change even though we humans generally hate change ;)

  • Booyah

    Here’s my outlook for the rest of 2016 and beginning of 2017.

    There will be a surge of subscribers to T-Mobile before the September 6 deadline where the old plans are gone.

    Afterwards, subscriber growth will be lower than shareholder expectations for the last quarter of this year and beginning of next year given the change in moving towards a ‘Carrier’ model rather an ‘Un-carrier’ model.

    • nutmac

      Nah.

      I suspect T-Mobile One (Un-Carrier 12.0) is the first step among many in T-Mobile’s grand plan.

      1. Un-Carrier 12.0: T-Mobile One ($70, $40, $20…) for high margin customers, with unlimited high-speed data with HD video ($25) and Hotspot ($15) add-ons.
      2. Un-Carrier 13.0: New Jump on Demand to coincide with new iPhone.
      3. Un-Carrier 14.0: Low-end version of T-Mobile One ($50, $30, $10…) with low priority on congested tower (similar to MetroPCS) and few other features that are standard on T-Mobile One (e.g., Mobile without Border, unlimited travel) are now add-ons.

      • Guest

        You can’t go lower than 1.5Mbps for videos and 2G speeds for tethering.

  • JB

    All those free small frostys must be hurting their bottom line…

    • Yep

      It’s from all those free T-Shirts that everyone’s saying looks great.

      • Francisco Peña

        I got two.. one for when I do my oil changes (black hides it well) and the other for my kid to get all dirty in.

        I’d rather have the pizza.

        • Johnny

          You can also wrap it around the pizza when it’s get starting to get cold.Comes in handy.

    • Ray

      Someone’s gotta help pay for the new Tmo Arena in Vegas.

  • Realistic Expectations

    1 hour of 4k video streaming uses 7GB. When/if this becomes the normal streaming quality for customers, carriers will obviously need to be able to 1) collect more money (25$ as of right now) for each line planning on using that type of data, and 2) deter/prevent users from streaming at that quality while offering the OPTION to pay more if they choose. Nobody seems to realize that this is helping all Tmobile customers in the long run. If every single person on this new plan had true 100% high speed data capable of streaming 4k content to a cell phone, the network would bog down to a crawl and then everyone here would complain about how slow and congested the network is in their zip code, while wishing for a miracle and wondering what is causing the issue. On another note, if you have verizon, att, or sprint?, Your “data buckets” are so small and SHARED, that you would not even be able to watch 1 full 4k movie before going over your data for the month and having ALL forms of media throttled to a crawl (or overage fees).
    There is no other way for a carrier to offer Unlimited data when 4k is the upcoming thing. Again, if everyone had the ability to stream at 4k, the network would suffer and affect everyone. Also, 4k streaming is not even possible on any other carriers current data plans, unless of course you are on an old grandfathered unlimited plan, which still gets throttled after 23gb if the network is congested. This is a great plan for those coming from Verizon/ATT/Sprint, but we Tmobile users are so spoiled with the promo plans of the past, that we have become so ungrateful. Think about it, these new plans are not geared towards the customers that they already have… We already have great cheap plans with excellent features. This plan is geared towards everyone else who are overpaying big time and looking for unlimited data at a great price. 4 lines of unlimited for 160$ (only 20$ for each additional line) with no overages, free international data, texting, .20 cent calling. Also, nobody seems to realize that Tmobile does NOT CHARGE a SMARTPHONE ACCESS FEE PER LINE/PHONE just to access the data you are ALREADY overpaying for. This fee is anywhere between 10-40$ PER LINE! depending on how that phone was purchases/leased/financed and on which tier data bucket you are on. Honestly, people find anything and everything to complain about when they should be appreciating what they have now compared to what customers get/pay from the other carriers.

    • Sean McLaughlin

      So we should be happy that they won’t honor the plan that was the reason we signed with them in the first place because they decided it was cutting into their profit margins. Got it.

      • Shane Walker

        You do realize they’re grandfathering current customers in forever, right?
        https://newsroom.t-mobile.com/doc_download.cfm?doc_id=211

        • Anti-Sean

          Sean’s Lost in Translation, he thinks otherwise.

        • Sean McLaughlin

          The update at the end of the article suggests otherwise.

        • MisterSuperGod

          From the pdf: “Current T-Mobile customers can keep the plans they have or choose to sign up with T-Mobile ONE. It’s their call.”

          i wouldn’t use the word “forever” as Shane W did but from what i’m seeing, those with current plans can stay put where they are.

        • Sean McLaughlin

          Yeah, I see now…. lol The article stated differently is all. All good now. ;)

      • Realistic Expectations

        Can you elaborate? Previous unlimited plans have always had disclaimers about deprioritization after 23gb or so. From what I understand, when paying the extra 25$ for 4k streaming, i would imagine that you will never be throttled while streaming the 4k content.

      • Josh Warfel

        You can keep the plan that you signed up with.. They are not forcing existing customers to change to this new plan.

        • Mike Thaler

          Announcement says us old users will be transitioned to the new 50% higher priced plans “in the future”.

        • Sean McLaughlin

          finally someone else that read it. lmao

      • Realistic Expectations

        I misunderstood your comment. You will not be forced into changing your current plan.

    • Philip

      Yes I understand now. I need to be humble. Streaming on a tiny screen at 4K is a waste of bw!

    • ShutUp

      Exactly. Everyone is losing their minds without even spending a few moments to understand the details. This is great for everyone, especially considering everyone can keep their current plans forever. Yes, Tmobile says forever.

  • Jason Caprio

    Wow am I happy that I am still on my $70/month TRULY UNLIMITED plan when I signed up in 2014! This plan is horrible, and if I’m reading correctly, if they are scrapping their cheaper tiered plans for light users, this is going to seriously hurt their chances of gaining new customers. The plan is basically identical to what I currently have, but with a forced Binge-On enabled. I don’t steam much on my phone anyway so the plan probably is good in some aspects, but not for the budget user.

    It’s alright though, T-Mobile’s network is so bogged down that it is nearly unusable in certain areas due to network congestion. I can see why they are desperately trying to force people into being throttled on video content with these deceptive plans. There have been times with a full signal that I can’t even load google maps, and other times in buildings that I have little to no signal while my AT&T work phone has a good signal. I’m most likely going to be jumping back to Verizon within the next year or so.

    I have to give credit to T-Mobile though, they have definitely incited serious competition since Verizon’s deals keep getting better.

    • Jim

      That’s true, there are places where I get full signal but their network is bogged down with congestion. I even have the Band 12 phone, same thing. When I drive a mile or two away, it gets better. That’s because I was at a crowded area at the time, when I started driving the network gotten better.

      • Jason Caprio

        Yep. In places in Trenton, NJ even when my Note 5’s service mode shows Band 4 and Band 12 in Carrier Aggregation, speeds are very often under 1MBit/sec. Then in another spot, I can surge close to 100MBit/sec. The network is so inconsistent!

        • ShutUp

          Try switching your phone to 3g only (HSPA+) in those situations. Works for me

    • ShutUp

      In the rare cases that im in a congested area, i just switch my phone to the old 3.5G HSPA+ and enjoy fast speeds again.

      • Jason Caprio

        I have had to do that many times, and MOST of the time, HSPA yields faster speed, but other times the speed is just as bad, if not worse.

        Don’t you find it a bit odd that at times we are forced to switch to an older technology in order to get better speeds? I find that UNACCEPTABLE. T-Mobile needs to make their network more consistent and live up to their “Fastest LTE in America” claim more often!

      • jdubtrey

        Switching to hspa isn’t easy to do on all phones.

  • JB

    Though I wonder, I’m on the old simple choice with unlimited (the 50+20)

    I also have three other lines: A wearable, a tablet (with the free 200MB) and a @home line I’ve been clinging on to for dear life.

    Should I just go ahead and turn that @home line into regular line before TMO One goes live?

    • ShutUp

      T-Mobile has “linelink” now, which is the @home service, for $10/month. As far as i know, linelink should be compatible with all current and future plans.

  • Manny

    So 25 dollars for streaming HD video on top of the line fees? So 220$ for a family of four with HD streaming

    • kev2684

      It’s $260 if Data Match is discontinued since there is no data tiers to match.

      • Manny

        But I though Legere said a family of four is 120? So plus 100 for HD would be 220

        • kev2684

          “A Family of Four can get as low as $40 a line”
          $70 + $50 + $20 + $20 = $160/month.

          Today you can get it at $220 w/ data match. Unlimited Everything and you can turn off Binge-On and has 14GB High-Speed Tethering per line. That’s all gone by September.

        • Manny

          Ahh yes..I messed definitely screwed the math up. Thanks for clearing it up.

        • Mario Muriel

          to clarify $160 with no HD Video and 2g Tethering lets do the math again for the same plans shall we

          4 lines $160 + $100 HD Video + $180 Same LTE Tethering = $440
          current 4 lines is $220 with everything included already, I am not sure what T-Mobile is thinking this is not something that sounds fair to customers considering that there is throttling after 26GB why limit the customer to using 480p or not let them use the hotspot how they like until those 26GB, it is ridiculous, and shady.

        • JG

          Don’t forget the autopay fee, or penalty.
          We don’t like doing autopay here because every month T-Mobile gets the “Amp’d” discount we bought into last summer wrong until the very last minute and sometimes after we call in to get it applied.
          Anyone remember the Amp’d discount from labor day last year? Buy iPhone 6 now, get iPhone 6s in a month, with a $15 bill credit for 18 months. The bill credit continues to get missed in our billing experience, so we have to stay vigilant with that every month. I’m sure autopay would just pay right ahead without waiting for any discounts to come off.

    • squiggleslash

      Are there really that many people who want HD streaming to a 5″ screen? Especially given the number of devices that have 480p screens?

  • gmo8492

    Best family plan T-Mobile ever offered was the 4 unlimited lines for $150. I get to reek all the current uncarrier benefits and have 14GB of tethering. I had the old $70 plan, but it made more sense to just combine my families lines into my account and split the difference. I pay like $45 just for my line alone every month. This was kinda the last chance to get a pretty awesome deal on unlimited data for a family plan. I totally disagree with this pricing scheme and I’m going to stay with this plan for a while until they try to take it from me.

  • GinaDee

    Extra fees for this and extra fees for that. Totally not the Uncarrier that John keeps trying to sell the public. Might as well charge for voicemail and caller ID while they are at it.

    • maanshu

      We are moving towards the à La Carte industry. Just wait until we see session based pricing.

    • JG

      Don’t give them more ideas!!

    • squiggleslash

      Extra fees for what, in fairness, are things most people don’t use. Do you watch 4k video on your phone? Do you tether? For 90% of users, the answer is “no” for both.

      The concept isn’t bad. I don’t like the tethering implementation, but otherwise it seems an entirely reasonable way to say “Here. Now you don’t have to worry about overages or your device suddenly becoming unusable mid way through the month.” That’s the thinking. It needs some tweaking, but the idea is sound.

  • Mike Thaler

    A 50% increase! and more!! We now pay $50+30=$80 for first 2 lines. Price going up to $70+$50=$120. Now pay $10 for each line 3 thru 6 = $40.00. That DOUBLES to $80.

    • Mario Muriel

      huh? you are comparing the 2GB plan with unlimited? seriously smh, if you made a comparison do it with the current unlimited 2 lines $140 and the new is 2 for $120 difference comes with the $25 each for HD and $45 each for the same hotspot which I think is bs to have those charges to begin with if you want the same that the $140 offers now then you will pay $260 which is a rip off I hope the FCC stops this since it goes against Net Neutrality.

  • Rod

    Network still sucks though :/

    • MisterSuperGod

      Must not suck that much if you haven’t switched.

  • Cam Fas

    Ive been leaving binge on even while on the grandfathered 70 unlimited plan but now I feel like I need to turn binge off.

  • M H

    We will likely loose our plans when we upgrade our devices

    • Acdc1a

      Highly unlikely.

    • MisterSuperGod

      Your plan is tied to your SIM card, not your phone.

  • ltnstar

    All these new and ad on plans have me confused. Where I don’t know what plan or features I have. Have 3 lines, mines unlimited w/ 7gb of hotspot and the the 2 lines have 2gb. Smh, all this does is trick current customers

    • JG

      Hence the removal of the ‘Simple’ choice plans.

      • J

        Good point, it’s no longer ‘Simple’

  • Drewski

    Come on now people, this right here is actually a great deal to be made right there you idiots that just feel the need to complain about T-Mobile keeping the video resolution at 480 dpi on their soon to be all in Unlimited Everything plan(knowing the 480 video resolution deal is just as good as the 1080 HD Video resolution deal). You guys are such ungrateful cry babies. Get over yourselves already now.

    • Adam

      People have a legitimate reason to complain about the new HD fee. Creating a business model around easy to circumvent rules is dumb. When using an encrypted proxy, there is no way for T-Mobile to know you are streaming video and throttle. This extra fee will only penalize “rule followers”. When you create rules that people can easily break and people feel are a ripoff, the result is always people not following those rules.

      • Drewski

        Adam you sound silly and unreasonable Bro. Goodbye Crybaby. Next person please. Enjoy being a total idiot and crying about stuff that shouldn’t be worth crying over Bro. If everyone does HD 4K movies within the whole network itself, it can easily strain the network, and cause me congestion on the network itself. Go sit down somewhere, okay? Case closed. Buh Bye now sweetie

        • Adam

          When a business creates a contract that is asking customers to break that contract, it is worth crying about.

        • Drewski

          Troll along Crybaby. Not a contract. Learn to take better notes next time around. Hmm Go back to Sprint, AT&T or Verizon if you want to keep disloving T-Mobile so much now Bro. Sprint won’t allow you to view videos in hd 1080 quality, the same going for AT&T n Verizon.

  • Good Question

    Can 3rd Party Authorized Retailers offer a different plan than this one? I understand T-Mobile is going to the T-Mobile One plan next month however that’s only if you go direct with them, but what about authorized dealers? Can they offer different plans?

  • DW Duck

    I’m on a family plan two lines unlimited high speed data for $100 I’ll be keeping that thank you very much

    • Gabriel

      I have that and will also keep that plan forever if I could, no throttle,no binge on. It seems like the best plan of last few years

  • MisterSuperGod

    It wasn’t all that long ago, March of this year to be exact, that the headline read: T-Mobile plans to pivot away from unlimited data…

    • Acdc1a

      Before Sprint was going to launch unlimited…Tmo was taken off guard by that.

  • Wondering

    If you turn off binge on, you pay $25 fee? I dont understand how TMo will distinguish what the video quality rating is on all sites on the interwebs. Am I missing something obvious here? Anyone care to elaborate please.
    TIA

    • Wondering

      What’s to prevent a rooted phone or a vpn from just enabling an unlimitied pipeline?

      • Joe

        I don’t know how they can prevent that what I can say is the average Joe would probably not know how to root their phone or know what vpn is. So I imagine it would be a small percentage of folks who would attempt that.

  • emcdonald75

    T-Mobile could have at least included the 5GB LTE data hotspot free of charge (like Sprint), and made unlimited HD feature for $25 come with additional hotspot data, which basically means leave the $95 Unlimited plan in place. I think the 6GB and 10GB plans should have stayed if they are truly phasing out the $95 plan. The 10GB plan with BingeOn and Music Freedom is perfect for me.

    • Rob

      The 6GB plan is staying.

  • T

    Seems like every year, the plans keep changing?

    • T

      To add to that, it looks to be getting worser than better in terms of what you get and how much it is.

  • CircuitSwitched

    T-Mobile is claiming that they are the first and only provider to offer unlimited LTE data for tablets.

    That’s a blatant lie as AT&T has offered unlimited LTE tablet data from day one of their new Unlimited offering..

    • Dark enV

      No not entirely true, AT&T did initially but then they took it down and those who had it were grandfathered in. I don’t think it applies to unlimited LTE data though just unlimited 3G.

  • Dan

    So the only plan will be this one for new customers? Seems really shortsighted. I would never be a tmobile customer if I was not already. I use no more than 2 GB a month and would never pay $70 for that

    • Rob

      Read the article… The 2GB/50 and 6GB/65 plans are staying, this is replacing the 95 dollar unlimited plan and the 10GB plan.

  • RIP unlimited data. That $95 plan is superior to T-Mobile ONE in almost every way, unless you don’t really want to use your unlimited data. Thank God I’m still grandfathered on the $70/month unlimited, I just hope I never need more than 7GB tethering.

    • cajunflavoredbob

      Here, here. I prefer my current $70 unlimited plan to this mess.

      The new plan is $70 for unlimited data. If you want to tether at any reasonable speed, it’s +$15 ($85). If you want HD video without using a VPN, it’s another $25 ($110). Heck, the current $95 plan is better than this new one.

      I’m still surprised that they didn’t run afoul of FCC regulations with the Binge on stuff in the first place. Charging extra for HD video seems like a violation in the same manner. It’s also creepy for me to think about an ISP snooping on my data packets. VPN anytime I’m on cell data.

      • Honestly if I ever get forced onto this, I would definitely consider VPN constantly if it could bypass Binge On and tethering limits. But then you would face a speed hit. Ugh.

        • cajunflavoredbob

          Not if you use a decent VPN. The free ones are going to suck on speed. I use PIA, and if my speeds get bad, I just swap to a different server, and I’m back in business. They’ve got tons of servers around the world, and the price is pretty darn cheap. This could easily bypass the video restrictions since T-Mobile would not be able to see what the data is inside the VPN.

  • TheRealPapaSnarf

    Here’s what you have to remember, this whole plan is to actually drive customers away from tethering… thus the a la carte approach… why would I pay $15 to tether (usually a tablet) when I can add it unlimited for $20. This would also go for a stand alone hotspot as well… since the fact sheet TMO ONE specifically calls out the smartphone hotspot. They are also doing it because they are going to start to introduce new connected devices like a in-car hotspot wifi thing and the new Samsung S3 Watch which will actually fall into a “gray” area between a wearable and a tablet since it might sport 4G LTE… Granted I’m not going to switch right away since I don’t come close to ever going over my data… however when my little Snarf Snarf gets old enough, I probably will in order to have a tablet that’s unlimited. It’s really 2 in one hand and one in another. For anyone thinking it is going to save money…. come on, really, come on… they are a business, not a non-profit. Someone below commented correctly. With 4K becoming video standard, there’s got to be a way to discourage people from streaming it, not that it just doesn’t make good business sense, it makes sense from a service perspective. In the US, just got to face facts. Our infrastructure sucks… this includes wireless. No current carrier network could handle unlimited no restrictions data from all its users. Its a case of technology ahead of reality… If we stopped spending trillions on unwinnable wars and instead spend that on infrastructure… yeah we could get there.., but right now unless all the carriers became one giant Evil Corp Wireless, it is physically incapable. And also…. like everything else that cost money in the world… prices go up as time moves forward… “…this isn’t as good as the deal I got from Alexander Graham Bell some years back…” duh… of course it isn’t… besides McDonald’s Cheese Burgers, what costs the same that it did even 2 to 3 years ago… smh…. Not that I don’t think there’s room for some improvements that others have mentioned below, but that is what future uncarriers and amp’d will do… stick with your old plans and see where this goes before hauling out the pitchforks… you could always go to another carrier… oh, wait yeah they suck more! snarf

    • Guest

      I read your first line… sorry. I agree, the way they are talking about tethering suggests they’ll probably make tethering useless in the future, including for prepaid. Their lies about “double the coverage” and others brings them more customers than the word “tethering”.

    • squiggleslash

      It doesn’t really work like that. Most Tablets are Wi-fi only, and I doubt that add-a-line will be available for laptops.

  • Mike

    Honestly, I think that all this unlimited crap is just another way for TMO to pick more cash out of ur pocket. Most of us are in wifi areas through the work day and or at home. How much data can you consume if data usage is only supplementing gaps in WIFi?

    • Dan

      Totally agree. It’s why I only use 2 GB per month. When tmo had the free unlimited over the holidays I turned off wifi and was using 6 to 8 GB per month.

      • MIke

        I did the same thing. That free unlimited data was just to get us hooked on watching movies on Binge On. I get better quality video via wifi. Also note the xfinity (Comcast) service of signing into your xfinity account for data use. I do that with my tablet when working at night. Works well and no extra fees involved or up charges for enhanced video quality. If Google’s project FI offered service over an iPhone i’d be so gone from TMO.

    • Guest

      With 2G speeds for tethering and 1.5Mbps throttle I’ll be consuming less than 2GB a month. Thank You T-Mobile, Thank You John Legere.

      • Fabian Cortez

        ith 2G speeds for tethering and 1.5Mbps throttle I’ll be consuming less than 2GB a month. Thank You T-Mobile, Thank You John Legere.

        Except you’ll be consuming more since it’s an unlimited high speed data plan with Binge On enabled.

        • Guest

          Read the T-Mobile (Carrier) ONE webpage.

        • Fabian Cortez

          I read it just fine.

          It clearly states that this is an unlimited LTE plan with Binge On.

          People tend to use more when provided with more and have no fear of going over or enduring penalties.

        • Guest

          There’s no mention of Binge On.

        • rdubmu

          No mention of Binge on as a term, but they are going to only offer standard video instead of HD which is what Binge on now offers.

    • Drewski

      Honestly Wifi too alone is never good enough, due to it going in and out on you there Brother. I think cell carriers own network LTE has more of a better advantage than the wifi itself most times, unless if you are on your laptop computer or tablet(That’s when it would have been a different story Bro). No need to come up with such idiotic thoughts there.

    • M H

      there’s no wifi at my company

  • Craig

    UPDATE 2: T-Mobile CMO Andrew Sherrard says that the 2GB/$50 and 6GB/$65 Simple Choice plans will stick around and that T-Mobile One will only be replacing the current $95 unlimited plan. “We’ll still have the rest of the Simple Choice lineup, you can still go buy that $50 plan,” he told PCMag.

    Talk about a small detail that was left out of the press release – they should have made that clear during the call. I couldn’t believe they would have no option for new customers who don’t want/need unlimited.

    • Fabian Cortez

      A lot of people must be looking pretty silly at this point…

      • Adam

        I wouldn’t characterize the T-Mobile C staff as “a lot of people”.

        • Sectime

          I think he means fanboys

        • Adam

          I considered that interpretation, but it is not as funny, considering Fabian’s posting history. I knew Fabian would also immediately remember that Mike Sievert’s job title begins with the letter C.

    • Jay Trainer

      To reference the quote above, here is the reference point.

      http://www.pcmag.com/news/347143/t-mobiles-uncarrier-12-unlimited-plans-what-you-need-to

    • gmo8492

      That’s cool, but the downside is that it makes the unlimited plan even more expensive since you now have to buy back full speed LTE tethering and full resolution video quality. It’s over $110 to match the current unlimited data plan, the way it was.

      • Will

        No it is $140 on the new plan to match the current plan as the current plan includes 14GB of tethering.

        So it is $70 for the plan + $25 for HD streaming + $45 ($15 for 5 GB X 3) = $140.

        So the new plan is $45 more. And if you have the 2 for $100 plan, the equivalent would be:

        $120 for the plan + $50 for HD streaming ($25 per line) + $90 for tethering 14GB. That’s $260 compared to $100 for 2 current unlimited lines with 14GB tethering and all the HD/4K you can consume.

    • Guest

      How many hours did it took for them to change their mind, sorta?

      • NapoPeb

        Exactly. They fucked this up badly. They’ve done a complete U-turn in 12 hours!

        • PD

          the whole point was to create only one plan..now that they have backtracked they should just cancel this whole new plan. what’s the point? no one will want it.

        • NapoPeb

          Exactly. Major #fail from TMO over this. If this is what they’ve been working on for years, for then to u-turn on it so quickly, well that’s pretty piss poor planning.

    • Phone Guy

      Its super funny because they made this Hollywood style video saying, NO MORE BUCKETS, no more data counting, and now Andrew Sherrard says well, I guess we will keep the buckets around after all. This is a big fuckup for them, and makes John look silly.

  • Uri

    I think my plan is better than T-Mobile one I got the T-Mobile promo 2/100$ Unlimited everything I will be sticking to this plannedFOREVER……….. Love T-Mobile

    • Phone Guy

      Well, you won’t be able to forever. Things will change, and you’ll need to switch. Something will happen. Like all the international free roaming and the free high speed use in Canada and Mexico. T-Mobile keeps adding more and more stuff that only works on the new plans.

      • maanshu

        Lol this move is the last move the pink guy can pull before the company gets taken over by dish. This is really desprate move by tmobile.

    • frankinnoho

      Same here. Still can’t beat that plan. The tethering… Well, for all intents and purposes they’ve eliminated tethering, haven’t they. Unless you pay more. I just wish I had gotten the Match Your Data hotspot plan when it was still there.

  • Guest

    If the current $50,65,80 plans continue, who in his right mind will switch to the new T-Mobile (Retarded) ONE plan?

    • Walt

      Me!!!!! I’m a sucker for all things T!

      • Guest

        So you want throttled video and useless tethering? Nah, you’re kidding me.

        This is a nice way of killing unlimited without killing it.

        The T-Mobile Undead One Plan.

  • M H

    Tmo can always pull a trick of have to choose their new plan before moving to a new Jump for ur device

  • Jay Holm

    More than 6 years after Verizon killed off unlimited data, T-Mobile continues, and continues to offer it!!!

    • Sectime

      With a 26GB soft cap in congested areas.

      • MisterSuperGod

        Which is still more than what it takes to hit AT&T’s and Sprint’s soft caps.

        • Sectime

          Oh boy a 3 or 4 Gb difference you for the win.

        • MisterSuperGod

          Where i’m sitting right now, usage wise, it’s making all the difference. (Plan renews in 4 days)

      • frankinnoho

        The 26 GB is not a cap. It’s a threshold level after which you MIGHT be throttled IF your calling area is experiencing heavy demand, and ONLY during peak times, not the balance of the billing period. I’ve hit up against it many times before BingeOn came out, and it never lasted more than a couple of hours.

      • Scoop003

        I just used 58gb last month, and I experienced no such soft cap. Maybe learn to read about deprioritization, and what it actually is before you spout off utter nonsense. But you won’t, I know, because thinking is hard.

        • Sectime

          If being an asshat is winning then you get a gold medal, too me your just another keyboard loser. T-mobile wrote the T&C not me. Maybe few users in the trailer park you call home so you don’t experience prioritization. Please continue Winning.

        • Scoop003

          Typical response from someone that can’t think for themselves. You get your ass handed to you by facts, and you resort to name calling and slinging insults. How about you use the time spent trying to come up with a witty response, and try doing some actual research and reading on the subject at hand, instead of sitting here spewing misinformation as if it were gospel. You think deprioritization is new? Verizon and AT&T used it on their unlimited plans (back when they had them) long before T-Mobile did. Very few people actually get hit with the deprioritization. Sometimes, the network is just slow due to congestion, same way the freeway is slow during rush hour. But I’m sure that all just went over your head. So please, feel free to lob your next volley of insults my way, instead of giving a reasoned response, because I don’t want you to hurt yourself trying to think.

  • MOe

    If you have Comcast you can log in to you Comcast account and use wifi for free in lots of area. WTF who need unlimited data from TMO when you have wifi available at work/home and on the road via your Comcast account. Lots of options for data access without using TMO data. T-Mobile 1 is a bone headed idea. THey are being down right piggish with all these extra fees and charges. Guess the next move for TMO is to charge a fee for using wifi data on your devise.

    • Drewski

      Half of the times wifi won’t work on most phones the majority of the time, while the cell phones network won’t go crazy on you there(unless if you use your laptop computer or tablet). Remember now, cell phones are not known for computer usages.

    • Acdc1a

      Then you have to have ComShaft. BingeOn allowed me to tell them to take a hike.

    • M H

      theres no wifi at my job!

      • MisterSuperGod

        Ditto!

  • Botiemaster

    what good is unlimited mobile hotspot at 2G speeds? I had to endure this throttling last month for 10 days. I ended up using about 200 MB worth of data on hotspot during those 10 days, 5-8 hours each day of sloooooooooooooooooooow web browsing, and no videos….that’s 600 MB a month if a person was forced to use that speed for a whole month. Like, seriously? I appreciate the fact that they don’t cut your data off period, but for all the money these carriers take from us every month, you’d think tmo could at least afford to toss us a gig or two a month. Doubling the overdone throttling to 256 kbps would help a ton. Maybe then I wouldn’t have to hit refresh half the time to try to load a web page again….

    Seriously, when your speed takes such a hard hit that dial up would perform better…you’re punishing people too hard to get them to buy more data. Be reasonable. It’s all about sticking it hard to the other guys and gaining loyal customers. 2G speeds does nothing to gain more loyalty from me, especially when I am in the middle of nowhere so there ain’t no lame ass “the tower is at max capacity!1!!” excuse that can be used in my case.

    I had to upgrade to unlimited just to get the 14 gig hotspot/unlimited 480p vid watching-binge on benefit this month, so I’m not overly worried about this anymore while I wait for flipping windstream to install internet/phone at my new home. But I would like to be able to just curse about acceptable throttling speeds rather than creating new four+ letter curse words about the overly done and melodramatic decrease in speeds to get me to buy more overpriced data.

    Shit, I need to be telling them this, not all of you. REAL TALK.

    • MisterSuperGod

      That’s the whole point. They know 2G hotspot is a joke and are hoping that people will pony up the additional $15.

      Those who balk at spending the extra money will probably use the hotspot less, if bother using it at all.
      That means less stress on the network.

  • Scott Hare

    I will keep my t-mobile plan the same. Two things I hate about the T-mobile One plan is the 2G speed of mobile hotspot/tethering and Autopay. I prefer to pay my bills when I get my paycheck and not when they want to just take it.

    • Acdc1a

      Honestly if they offered something usable for tethering this would be an awesome deal. My best guess is they’ll run a 4th line free ($140) promo to soften the blow at some point.

      The 480p isn’t a big deal. Clowns here will disagree but Netflix streamed 480p to AT&T and Verizon for years and no one noticed. Moreover, frequently I get 1080 even with BingeOn enabled.

  • mlody_me

    I was able to last with t-mobile for like 7-8 months. I could not stand their shitty coverage and service. Thus far I admired all their attempts to review and put some new life into the carriers in general but this uncarrier 12 is a total crap.

    next thing we know there will be uncarrier 13 with unlimited service for like $40 but people will have to pay a la carte for everything:
    want facebook access – $10
    want twitter access – $10
    want to use maps/gps – $10
    want to steam music – $10
    etc
    etc
    etc

    just LOL t-mobile. Focus on service and coverage instead of dumping new plans on people every 3-4 months!

    • Philip

      I have to say T-mobile is getting better n better ever year. I can see the difference.

      • Acdc1a

        Compared to 2012 when I switched it’s a different company as far as coverage is concerned.

  • M H

    match your data is being taking off accounts this month too! but you won’t loose anything

  • Cam Fas

    Glad I’m grandfathered on the old unlimited $70 plan. The question for new people is if they pay the extra $25 bucks will they still be subjected to the 26gig congestion soft cap? Because if they were it wouldn’t even make sense to pay the extra money for the HD content.

    • Prode

      yes they do. It is in the TOS on the T-Mobile page about this.

  • Trevnerdio

    On our family plan, I pay $20 for my truly unlimited data add-on, with 5 gigs of tethering. If you touch my plan, T-Mo, so help me…

    • Goat

      Same!

      • maanshu

        same.

  • Guest

    T-MobileCarrierONE webpage:

    ONE PRICE.
    ALL UNLIMITED.
    FOR EVERYONE.

    it is the
    END OF
    DATA PLANS

    Sherrard… hours later:

    “We’ll still have the rest of the Simple Choice lineup, you can still go buy that $50 plan,”

    Conclusion: They did a U turn, for now. But they might end Simple Choice at some point.They might end Binge On for Simple Choice too, as a way to force people into the new plan, and just do the all-detectable-video-files throttling. So keep that in mind in your calculations. I’m gonna miss you Binge On.

    • MisterSuperGod

      The keywords are for now.
      Though, they are rectifying customer complaints and in record time!

    • Brucipher

      I don’t really care if they end Bring-On (personally). What I hope they never end for Simple Choice is Music Freedom. I use a ton of data streaming music every day at work.

  • Joe

    “Un-carrier” 12 is to be just a “carrier” again. No more “un”.

  • Elier Ruiz

    I have a new found love for T-mobile. Glad I’m still with them.

  • smat

    What a crap move. T-Mobile’s becoming just like the other carriers.

  • MY 2 CENTS

    T-Mobile, please take note. Given the tremendous backlash of your latest ‘Un-Carrier’ promotion it would make sense to have test out the reaction and opinions from a Sample Test Group before you release it to the general public. This will help avoid something like this from happening as you can see from all the comments below.

    TO SUMMARIZE: BEFORE YOUR NEXT UNCARRIER CHANGE, TEST OUT WITH A SAMPLE GROUP OR MULTIPLE GROUPS TO VIEW THEIR REACTION FIRST AND MAKE ANY CHANGES BEFORE GOING PUBLIC.

  • ShutUp

    Keep in mind that everyone on here complaining and losing their minds over the new plans are doing so from a current TMO customer perspective.

    Of course these new plans arent better than some of the PROMO plans offered 1, 2, or 3 years ago. The great news? You dont have to switch. Choices are great to have though, right?

    These comments only show one side since ATT and Verizon customers typically dont comment here.

    My point being that im sure these new plans look very attractive to the majority of customers of the bigger two…

    Everyone is just mad that they never took advantage of one of the PROMO plans when they were offered.

    Besides, most of us smart ones are also current TMO stockholders, so we should all be welcoming these changes lol

    • Steven

      Keep in mind that you are missing the point. It’s not about the current, it’s about the future, why would people switch if they are forced to pay more for services they’ll never use, 2 lines $120 unlimited or 2 lines $80 2GB. If you only need 2GB you are getting screwed… It’s about the bigger picture, not the individual. That’s why people are mad. It’s forcing people to pay for more than what they need/want.

    • AussieB

      Im not a Tmobile customer and making the cheapest plan $70 would make me not switch. I currently have Straight Talk $45 for 5gb on ATT LTE which is more than enough. I had considered trying Tmobile but now may try Google’s Project Fi ,which likely will lower my bill even more on a monthly basis by just paying for data I use

  • frankinnoho

    2 Lines Unlimited for $100. Best deal they ever offered. They’ll have to pry it from my cold, dead fingers,

    • HawaiiD

      Sorry my 3 lines +4th line free unlimited data+14 GB of mobile Hotspot for each line{56GB every month) @ $150.00 with 15%corporate discount =$127.00
      Is a much better deal than yours

      • Dominimmiv

        I am quite fond of my 4 lines at 10 gigs each with data stash $105 a month after government discount. I’m certainly not changing plans.

        • HawaiiD

          My youngest daughter uses 50GB + alone
          I myself use about 40-50GB. Wife and eldest uses about 10-20GB each every month. We have binge on demand set at off full HD netflix. So I’d say we got a sweet plan for what we use.

        • DominiMMIV

          Yep i’d stay put on that plan!

      • Philip

        The 15% is eating up in the crazy tax. Basically its just tax free. With this account, you can add up to 10 lines. I am not letting this go unless I died cause nobody is paying for it. LOL

    • brybry

      Are you able to add more lines?

    • Enki

      It might be the best for you, but it isn’t the best universally. I pay $70/month for 2 Lines w/6GB data, plus 2 tablet lines w/5GB each for $20/month (total) more. With BingeOn, I rarely use more than 1-2GB/month, so have 30-40GB of data in my carryover bucket. Oh, and I still get 15% off, which wasn’t available (IIRC) on the $100/2 plan you mentioned. So for all that, I pay about $77+tax.

  • ericdabbs

    How is this Tmobile One plan any different and better than Sprint’s Unlimited Freedom plan? They look very similar and even Sprint offers 5 GB of hotspot data uncapped vs. Tmobile’s 2G unlimted hotspot data.

    Not to mention that Sprint’s plan is $60 for first line vs. Tmobile’s plan for $70 for first line. Paying $25/line to watch high definition video is such BS.

    • AnthonyReyes

      also it violates FCC Net Neutrality

    • Fabian Cortez

      Paying $25/line to watch high definition video is such BS.

      Sprint’s HD offering is “free” until October. Then one has the choice to pay for its premium.

      With 200 MHz of spectrum, that Claure boldy boasts about, one has to wonder why they’re capping the quality.

  • AnthonyRyan89

    I’m set I got a promo $120 for 2 lines unlimited data plan with 14 gb of hotspot. I’m not switching

    • dontsh00tmesanta

      dang when was this? i got the 2 for 100 with 7gb tethering

  • Steven

    It looks like they took note pretty quickly, Update 2 saying the will keep the current 2GB and 6GB plans just in case. Good Job T-Mo. Now when my parent’s service improves in their area, they can switch and take advantage of the 2GB plan they need and not be forced to pay for unlimited BS they’ll never use.

    • AnthonyReyes

      I believe they always intended to keep them and this was replacing the unlimited plan. I think people just got confused because they stupidly named it the One

  • (J²)

    After looking at this from other angles I don’t believe that T-Mobile has any bad intentions behind this.

    The current unlimited data plan is $95. T-Mobile One is $70 and for $25 more ($95) you get un-optimized video streaming.

    Where the deal becomes sour is tethering at 2G speeds is the only option unless you want to spend $15 more for 5GB buckets. Unless you are tethering for an iPad, the 2G connection speed could be deemed useless. I feel that T-Mobile should provide 2GB of 4G/LTE speeds by default. This is just enough to deter those who take advantage while still offering an option to those who may use this feature in an emergency.

    With all that being said, I still feel that T-Mobile will be found in violation of Net Neutrality by the FCC once this plan becomes available officially.

    I know T-Mobile really wants to increase its revenue to continue to please shareholders but they need to axe the $25 add on to this plan – It takes the industry backwards.

    • Philip

      I have experience 2G speed on T-mobile hotspot before when my 14GB of hotspot ran out. It is next to impossible to surf! Might as well take the hotspot at 2G off!

    • RE

      Axe the 25$ fee and watch as everyone streams up to 4K quality and causes network congestion… Data usage will only increase year after years and T-Mobile needs a way to prepare for that type of usage. Have those that would like to stream at such high quality pay for it, and those who don’t need/want it will pay a cheaper price. It’s actually a genius idea that no one seems to understand. The 25$ I believe is meant to be an unattractive figure to dissuade many from actually purchasing it. If everyone had access to full unlimited video streaming at up to 4K or even more in the future, the network would no longer handle the congestion down the road. People need to see the bigger picture.

      • (J²)

        Actually, many of us do understand but the issue is this is in violation of Net Neutrality. These tactics have occurred in the past and have often not been beneficial to content providers or customers. This is why these very tactics were outlawed.

        • RE

          Don’t know what to tell you, it is simply not going to be possible in the future when UHD becomes the streaming norm. Everyone will complain about crawling speeds and it will be because the amount of bandwidth being used by every individual streaming a video. By offering the option to upgrade, I believe they are okay with their decision… Unlike sprint who I believe does not even offer an option to upgrade full quality. The 2 options are, offer a plan with a set data limit with full speed access to everything including video, or offer an unlimited data plan that caps the video streaming quality.

        • donnybee

          You assume technology is going to be at a standstill as time progresses. As history shows, the more our lives become reliant on internet-based services and media, the technology that allows for consumption progresses as well. As the internet matured, we went from 2G to 3G and 3G to 4G. We’re on the cusp on new methods to devour data. The capabilities for consumption will keep up. They must.

          Let’s not forget that Verizon and AT&T are arguably running older tech with twice as many users. T-Mobile has nothing to fear, therefore I disagree.

    • AussieB

      What percentage of cell phone users need or use “unlimited data”? As of 2015, studies showed that most consumers used about 1.8 gb of data

  • Ray

    Update #2 sounds like a little back-pedaling to me. Good! Maybe Tmo is listening to their customers’ complaints.

    • taxandspend

      It sure does. I think the name “One” was supposed to mean that was the one plan they have. Good news that they’re keeping the original plans.

      • Acdc1a

        They’ll tweak One and right price it. Eventually Simple Choice plans will be gone…but I agree, this is good news for now.

        • AnthonyReyes

          only way Simple choice is going anywhere is if they significantly lower the price. A good portion of people still just get the cheapest plan wit hardly any data because they don’t need it.

        • jozefd14

          ESPECIALLY ever since they’ve introduced “music freedom” AND “binge on”. It’s nice to know that when I listen to music, my data doesn’t get affected. Same thing with video. I have the 2 gb plan so video does get used but not as much and I most watch YouTube videos from time to time on my iPhone 6.

        • AussieB

          Thats why they want to upsell people to a $70 plan. T-mobile is a public company out to make a profit; not your friend. I thought binge on and music freedom didn’t apply to their 2gb plan. Thats what I was told anyway. That it was only the $65 and above plans

        • jozefd14

          Oh no ESPECIALLY music freedom is applied to the 2 GB plan. For Binge On, it still uses SOME of the 2 GB BUT of course its set according to binge on specs etc. Well I won’t be seeing myself and my parents moving to unlimited. I/They don’t even use that much data and 2 GB is MORE than enough + music freedom/binge on… it’s do-able.

        • AussieB

          Which is why Tmobile wants to raise the prices to $70. Thats what this really is about, esp knowing the most people wont be using all that much data

      • AussieB

        They’ll only keep it for a short time and slowly phase them out. They wont advertise them any more. I wonder what percentage of cellular customers are on family plans vs single lines…and how much data does the average customer use. I always read that most people use less than 2gb . Most of the people on this blog aren’t typical of average consumers who don’t even know which version of Android they have.

  • Dominique Wilson

    PSA: Those who come to Tmonews and constantly read news about Tmobile, are not the average Tmobile customer. Most of them didn’t care about Binge On (don’t let the tech news over-coverage get you confused). Many new customers will not care they can only get SD video (its still unlimited and on a phone looks decent).

    Can we talk about unlimited data on tablets? That,s big news to me! I prefer my hotspot data over tablet data so i’m staying with my current plan but to others, that will be attractive.

    I admit that the hotspot/tethering sucks. Nothing attractive about that at all. 2g is the worst. I think by merely upping that to 3g (1-2mbps limit) would alleviate the complaints.

    Understand this, they are a business. They still have to make a profit. They have been spending billions buying up spectrum and building out the network. They ran great promotions for years. We all knew (or should have known) the other shoe would drop. The uncarrier moves have been great. They have led to major changes in the big 2 carriers and Sprint. Overall more good than bad. Uncarrier does not mean non-profit.

    If you like your current plan, then stay on it. If you like the new plan and it saves you money then switch. You can’t have it all. Some want the lowest prices while others want to use just a hotspot and get rid of home internet all together. Others want 4k video. Many want a network to rival Verizons. A vocal few, want all of the above. Mix and match. If Tmobile is still allowing you to hit most of your needs, then stay. If not then leave.

    Overall, could T-Mobile One have been better? Yes.
    Does it still offer value to people switching? Yes.
    Is it perfect? By no means.

    But being a large, adaptable company if it doesn’t do well or garners tons of negative criticism then they will change it or scrap it and do something else.

    Sincerely,

    A Tmobile customer since the days when they were a laughing stock

    • Matt

      I would actually love a tablet plan with unlimited. I much prefer watching movies on a 7-10″ screen.

      • Dominique Wilson

        Right?!! I don’t want to switch to this plan to get that though. I’ll wait until they do something about this hotspot thing. I’m on the 2/$100 unlimited with 7gb. And i have 5GB for my tablet so it’ll do for now

    • Acdc1a

      Many good points. 1.5 Mbps would be sufficient for tethering and would even cause me to consider a move to this plan. It’s possible that T-Mobile will realize this and offer it in the future.

      The Verizon network is fast becoming old news. Much like T-Mobile still gets hammered for past performance, Verizon gets credit for a network that isn’t as good as its reputation. It’s 2016 and I’ve watched network outages run an entire workday with Verizon. Not acceptable in this day and age. The last thing propping up Verizon is their physical footprint. If T-Mobile were able to match that (19 million pops doesn’t seem like that much but it’s a TON of area) there would no longer be a gap.

      • emcdonald75

        Yeah Verizon’s purchase of Alltel really helped them in the Mississippi areas. I wish T-Mobile bought Alltel. If Sprint was smart, it would have bought Alltel for native Southeastern U.S. coverage.

      • Dominique Wilson

        Yea getting those final pops and nice size square miles is what really makes the difference and will truly cost. I live in a city and generally stay in cities so not as big of a deal to me.

    • AussieB

      But the average customer doesn’t need or use unlimited data and they will care that suddenly Tmobile’s cheapest plan is higher than their competitors.

      • Dominique Wilson

        The average customer doesn’t need unlimited data because of either purposely watching less video or religiously switching over to wifi. And you are correct this will hurt that single plan user who doesnt need a ton of data. They probably will have to course correct on that.

  • Richard Roma

    These new plans just made it easier for me to switch to AT&T or verizon, You know, the carriers that actually have service outside metro areas and within buildings.

    • Matt

      yes… please leave our network. thanks

    • Acdc1a

      311 million covered pops not enough for you? Fun story, went to Presque Isle, MI this summer…1,700 residents and a single traffic light. Had full LTE signal. I guess that qualifies as a metro area to you.

      • JG

        311 million ‘covered’ is a subjective term. I wonder how much low frequency spectrum that penetrates through buildings and trees is included in that number and term.

        • Acdc1a

          Funny you should ask. 270 million by the end of the year will be covered by extended range LTE. That little town of 1,700 is included in that figure.

        • JG

          Very good. I like to see progress. I have extended range LTE on my phone (iPhone 6s Plus) (700mhz). I also read more extended range LTE rollouts are expected here in Phoenix too. I welcome it. It’s a little embarrassing when I have friends over who have T-Mobile and can’t make a phone call or get data until they ask for my wifi password. As far as small towns goes… that’s great to see, but there are many areas still in need of service. Take a trip to Kauai, Hawaii and you’ll know what I mean.

      • donnybee

        Similar situation with Nephi, UT. 5,000 residents, 1 traffic light, and not even a McDonalds in town.. But full LTE at 20-30mbps in nearly every corner of town.

        • Oh Snap

          Everyone along I-15 gets full coverage… there is an antenna down the street.

    • Matt

      I get a signal way out in the sticks now. You need a new argument, sir.

      • JG

        My wife works in a hospital in a city population of 1.5 million residents. She has no signal in the building, but her coworkers on the ‘other’ carriers do.
        My daughter cannot make a phone call or text inside her high school building in a town of 29,000 people. Her friends on the ‘other’ networks can.
        I cannot make a phone call inside my home without being on wifi. Our town houses 81,000 residents. I have to go outside and down the street a quarter of a mile to get a signal.
        Data drops on my phone when I enter a store in a shopping center placed in a town of 229,000 people. Outside, I get a signal. And that’s right near a Corporate T-Mobile store.

        • Phone Guy

          Why would you complain and pick T-Mobile. Not very bright. AT&T will buy out all your phones, your fees, and switch you. Don’t stay on T-Mobile and complain if it’s obviously not right for you. Switch.

        • JG

          I don’t think you are understanding the complaint that Richard Roma started. If T-Mobile is going to start charging similar prices to Verizon, they need to provide as good of coverage as Verizon. I think he was stating that if we are paying dollar for dollar on price point, it makes more sense to go to AT&T or VZW.
          With TMo, I’m on a low price plan and put up with the pain points. But how am I going to win friends over to T-Mobile (and increase network coverage opportunities in my area) when I can’t sell T-Mobile having as good of coverage as they have currently?
          As far as my initial comment, I was simply pointing out that Matt’s scientific (sarcastic) data of his one person experience is not the best ‘argument’ in favor of T-Mobile’s widespread coverage.

        • dontsh00tmesanta

          The question should be why are ya still with tmobile in that case?

        • JG

          Good question. I put up with the pain points. Every network has it’s issues. Before VZW came out with their ‘safeguard’ or whatever it’s called on their data caps, that was the major thing that kept me away from them. I’ve been a VZW customer before and got surprise charges for data usage during the iPhone 5 bugs on their network. T-Mobile doesn’t charge for overages. But now that VZW is similar, I might look at them closer. Fortunately, I have a good plan with a decent price with T-Mobile, and I put up with the paint points for now.

        • AussieB

          Straight Talk uses ATT LTE and you get 5gb at $45 or 10gb at $55. Ive had them for 4 years although I don’t even use 5gb and just got a Nexus so might try Fi to lower my bill even more. The downside is you have no store to go to if you have problems and you usually have to deal with outsourced customer service people.

        • dontsh00tmesanta

          as much as i like tmobile I have horrible speeds at home thus why I am testing cricket and constant 8mbps is better than 50mbps in some places I rarely go and .20mbps at home…..

    • AussieB

      Ironically those others will now also be cheaper for people who use smaller amounts of data.

  • vrm

    Here’s a suggestion to t-mobile-

    Make all plans unlimited with the following pricing tiers-

    data capped at 2 mbps – $50/mo(or less)
    capped at 3 mbps – $70/mo
    capped at 5 mbps – $95/mo

    all other features same as simple choice plans.

    • Matt

      That is a fantastic idea! I don’t need full speed LTE anyway.

    • Matt

      Or even, 2, 4, and 8. If you need more than 8, charge 15.00.

    • Guest

      But then they’ll not be able to sell the “fastest network” idea and other carriers will seize the oportunity to say T-Mobile data speeds are capped “and slow”. Unless, maybe, they have one full-speed unlimited plan.

    • lomsha

      No thanks this isn’t 2003.

    • Adam

      Your idea is a bit ahead of its time. In 3 years, I predict we will see that kind of pricing.

  • Sticking with my current Plan

    From one of the posters (John) below: please read (suggestion only) T-mobile statement sheet, under ‘Who Gets It’ and “that should clarify the question on existing subscribers”.

    https://newsroom.t-mobile.com/

    Thanks, John (TmoNews poster) for the Reference….

    • Matt

      I saw that link to, below is the direct link to the sheet. I clicked the one above it just took me to the main newsroom homepage.

      https://newsroom.t-mobile.com/doc_download.cfm?doc_id=211

      • Sticking with my current Plan

        Simply said, thank you! For me, it cleared up a lot of confusion, especially for existing customers.

  • Chuin_masterofsinanju

    Recap:

    Then: T-mobile lets you keep your grandfathered unlimited plans.

    Couple years ago: Well, you can keep your grandfathered plan still, but we are putting in data caps on all lines (so you don’t really have an unlimited plan).

    Now: : We are announcing an all new plan with unlimited data with no caps (which was the same plan as the grandfathered plan you had years ago before we put a cap on it. And no, we aren’t removing the data cap on your grandfathered plan.

    • This is nothing new; T-Mobile has several times in the last 10 years *forced* you off grandfathered plans by doing something like removing old APNs (and the new one wouldn’t work without a new SIM, and THAT you couldn’t change to on the old plan!) This sort of thing goes all the way back to the original days of the Nokia candybar phones and tethering by cable, which they used to allow without restriction or extra charge — and then the games began…..

    • Louie McAllister

      Oh but didn’t you notice that their are still caps on the data with this new plan.

      “As with T-Mobile Simple Choice, those using the most data, the highest 3% – currently people using more than 26 GB of high-speed data per month – may see their data traffic prioritized behind other users once they cross that “

  • Dark enV

    I still have to say the whole autopay feature is one of the things that I dislike the most. Not because you get a discount for using autopay but how they represent the pricing. If T-Mobile had said the plan for 4 lines is $180 but if you use autopay then you get a $5 discount per line I’d think it isn’t so bad because you actually see the real price for the plan and those who use autopay get rewarded for using the feature. But having shown as $160 for 4 lines makes it seem like customers who don’t use autopay are being punished.

    • Prode

      You are being punished. If you pay your bill every month on time just use it. When you get your bill in the mail if something is wrong with it call or go into a store other wise it comes out of a checking account or CC every month. I have used auto pay since being with t-mobile for years and never had a problem. Just check your bill.

      • Dark enV

        But for autopay to work it has to come from one card or bank account correct? Because in my case I have 10 lines with about 7 people paying at different times of the month so for us to use autopay we’d have to load a prepaid card or something like that each month which would be a bit ridiculous to do. But this is all hypothetical cause I’m not going to this plan. I just did the math for my plan if we were to switch and have all the bells and whistles that we have our bill for just the service would go from $280, where 2 of us are completely unlimited and the other 8 have 10GB each, to $750. $300 for all 10 lines, $50 for not using autopay, $150 for 5GB hotspot, $250 for HD video streaming. That’s nearly triple the cost. No thanks lol

        • Prode

          But as long as everyone pays you by the due date the money will be in your account. If someone doesn’t pay then it is a different story.

        • David

          lol, I’m in the same boat, 10 lines. But, I collect money for all line 1 year in advance. Each line average about $24/month, so I tell them to pay me $288 each and I won’t bother them unless there’s a usage charge for that line. To have each one pay its own is too troublesome and we know people don’t always pay up on time. If they don’t like it, I kick them out of the plan. Maybe you can collect 6 months at a time. honestly it’s not that much money.

  • Guest

    How about this plan idea:

    $40 for 2GB XS
    $55 for 5GB S (promoted)
    $70 for 10GB M (promoted)
    $85 for 15GB L (promoted)
    $100 for 20GB XL

    $20 off the 2nd line, $30 off the 3rd and following lines.

    All at full speed.

    With optional Data Saver mode that throttles all your data traffic at 1.5 Mbps.

    The S, M, Ls are more honest, as in “small/medium/large amount of data”. Thank you Verizon.

    • Phone Guy

      Horrible. So Verizon!

    • Acdc1a

      15GB over multiple lines is NOT a lot of data.

      • Guest

        You mean tethering? Well, you can get another line or a second line with data only, that should be cheaper. I think we have to understand that unlimited at full speed is not possible for T-Mobile.

  • Kevin

    I have the 2 lines for $100, then 40 for line 3 and 40 for line 4. So $180 all in unlimited everything and 7.5gb of hotspot per line. I think I will stick with that. Unless someone can explain where I might be wrong.

    • Dark enV

      Hang on to that plan unless you don’t need the hotspot or HD video streaming and you use autopay. If you use autopay and don’t need the other features then you save $20 but it doesn’t seem worth it to me at all. Otherwise to get almost everything you have right now it’d cost you $320 if you use autopay and $340 if you don’t and that only comes with 5GB of hotspot instead of the 7.5GB you get now. ($160 for the plan of 4 with autopay, $25 per line for HD video x4 = $100, $15 per line for 5GB hotspot x4 = $60, $5 per line if you don’t use autopay x4 = $20)

      • Lawrence Ferreira

        yep im keeping my 150.00 plan for 4 lines unlimited everything with 14gb hotspot on each line and free hd…..and 30.00 add a line …. the new plan sucks for tmobile customer its only good for new people moving from verizon/ att / spirnt to t-mobile


        Simple Choice North America Unlimited Family Match Promo
        Takes effect 08/28/2016 $150.00
        This plan includes:
        Unlimited talk, text and data while on our network with no data overages and no annual service contracts.
        Each line gets UNL 4G LTE data on your smartphone while on our network. Includes up to 14 GB of high-speed Smartphone Mobile HotSpot (SMH) service; speeds reduced after 14 GB SMH.
        Includes Binge On optimized video streaming that saves your data.
        NOW! Includes unlimited calling to any number in Mexico and Canada from the U.S. PLUS get 4G LTE data and unlimited calling and texting when you’re in Mexico and Canada, just like in the U.S., at no extra charge.
        Unlimited data and texting when you travel to any of 140+ countries and destinations so you can stay connected when you’re abroad.
        The first 4 lines are $150. You can add more lines for $30.00 per line per month

    • Rocket Scientist

      Don’t change a thing! I have the same thing, plus the “follow my phone” data level (so 5gb) for $10 for each of my ipads. NO WAY am I changing anything.

      For my current usage, it would more than double my bill, and their idea of an acceptable “2g” speed is pure unusable garbage. Whenever the phone says “E” on it, that doesn’t mean “edge” network speeds… It means “Everyone else other than you has data service” b/c NOTHING loads. Even trying to load Google’s default front page takes over 30 seconds, IF it loads at all. It usually doesn’t.

      Stay FAR away from this new option.

      • SirStephenH

        When they throttle you to “2g speeds” they don’t actually force you on to 2g (Edge). You still connect to the fastest network, they just reduce you to an inhumane 128Kbps.

    • SirStephenH

      Stay with it! The new plan will cost you A LOT more for the same features.

      We have the same plan and we’re never going to give it up.

    • Lawrence Ferreira

      yep im keeping my 150.00 plan for 4 lines unlimited everything with 14gb hotspot on each line and free hd…..and 30.00 add a line …. the new plan sucks for tmobile customer its only good for new people moving from verizon/ att / spirnt to t-mobile


      Simple Choice North America Unlimited Family Match Promo
      Takes effect 08/28/2016 $150.00
      This plan includes:
      Unlimited talk, text and data while on our network with no data overages and no annual service contracts.
      Each line gets UNL 4G LTE data on your smartphone while on our network. Includes up to 14 GB of high-speed Smartphone Mobile HotSpot (SMH) service; speeds reduced after 14 GB SMH.
      Includes Binge On optimized video streaming that saves your data.
      NOW! Includes unlimited calling to any number in Mexico and Canada from the U.S. PLUS get 4G LTE data and unlimited calling and texting when you’re in Mexico and Canada, just like in the U.S., at no extra charge.
      Unlimited data and texting when you travel to any of 140+ countries and destinations so you can stay connected when you’re abroad.
      The first 4 lines are $150. You can add more lines for $30.00 per line per month

  • coakl

    Capping hotspot/tether speeds at 128 kb/s is inhuman. Raise it to 256 or 512. Today’s Web is simply too FAT and poorly coded to run at 128 kb/s speeds. Even non-video-streaming sites are thick and fat with dozens of javascripts, I-frames, images, and ads.

    And we all know this is not true 2G. It’s 3G/4G with someone’s hands around my throat, throttling it down to 2G-like speeds. But you can calibrate that, raise it up to something decent but still unsuitable for streaming at SD or higher.

    • Fabian Cortez

      128 kb/s is inhuman.

      That sounds like quite the exageration.

      • Guest

        How?

      • It’s not. It’s what he said – today’s web isn’t coded for this anymore. Gone are the days when a dual ISDN felt like blazing speed.

        My LG G4 broke a couple weeks ago, and I tried to live with an HTC Sensation for a few days. I couldn’t believe how SLOW it was – practically unusable. I wondered how could this be. I tried multiple ROMs hoping to find one that was very low in resource usage. The issue wasn’t the OS, it was the CPU and 768MB RAM. The Google apps (Hangouts, probably Google Play Services) that we pretty much take for granted these days take advantage of the 2GB or so that even most budget phones have these days.

        It was a rude awakening. Can’t use old devices on today’s web, and 128kb/s is a yesterday speed. 512 would be “restrictive’ enough and still let people use hotspots in an emergency. We had a couple hurricanes here on Long Island where the power (and internet) was out, and it was very nice using T-Mo on my laptop, tethered to my phone so I could get updates.

    • rwmgd2

      Charging more for faster speeds in a direct violation of net neutrality rules, something T-Mobile has been a outspoken advocate for. Now they have gone against their principles and are trying to bypass the law they so vehemently tried to get enacted and enforced. You can’t have it both ways.

  • How do they even cap the hotspot/tether speeds? Is this only going to work for TMO devices? What about BYOD people?

    I guess this is a good deal if you’re a data hog but if the video is degraded and the tethering is throttled I’m not sure what you are going to use data for.

    Being that we’re not data hogs we’ll be staying with our current non-TMO pre-paid plan for $90/mo for 3 lines.

    • Acdc1a

      Another very good question. I’m not switching to find out.

    • AussieB

      Considering most people still use under 2gb of data a month, Tmobile just became the highest priced choice out there for singles. Im going to try Fi and lower my bill to $30

      • Fi is great but it’s still Nexus only and I don’t do gimped phones.

      • vinnyjr

        I think they still offer the lower rate plans, 6gb month plan. Still a great deal. I’m keeping my grandfathered unlimited plan. Been on it for years.

        • Guest

          So you don’t like the new T-Mobile plan?

  • AussieB

    So I guess they’re abandoning the single person who doesn’t use a lot of data if $70 is going to be their cheapest plan. Lot of articles point out how this plan is not good for most consumers and is just being packaged as a big PR stunt by Tmobile.

    • Hector Arteaga

      Never having to worry about data usage is appealing to a lot of consumers.

      • Guest

        And screw with the other customers that don’t like it?

  • Fruity

    On a separate note, is this the largest amount of comments you seen for one article? 700+ postings.

  • Walt

    I can see t-mobile mvno’s and metro pcs going to a capped data throttle of maybe 10mbps. Kinda like how cricket and verizon mvno’s are already doing it. This would allow faster data speeds for all these new “unlimited” postpaid customers.

    Heck im currently with metro and get over 100mbps easily. Fastest speed was 140mbps on my iphone 6s

    • Guest

      I fear they’ll be ending or crippling tethering for prepaid and MVNOs as well.

      Then we’ll have no choice.

      • Walt

        8gb of LTE tethering on a truly unlimited prepaid plan for $60 While postpaid gets “unlimited” 2G…yeah it’s going bye bye lol

        • Hector Arteaga

          Unfortunately, it only makes sense that it would go away. People want Verizon like coverage, but they don’t want to pay for it. This is a happy median.

  • Irfan

    its a scam ,you get unlimited ( 26GB ) but most of things are base on Add on , unlimited but video gonna be 480p on all , you need to add more money to get benefits .
    this time i believe T-Mobile running a Drama .

    • Hector Arteaga

      26 is deprioritization. Only need to worry if you’re in a very congested tower.

  • Eric

    I’m on the 10gb family plan where u get 4 lines for 120 with data stash. I was wondering is this plan grandfathered or will they force me off somehow.

    • Hector Arteaga

      They made it very clear your current plan will not change.

  • Guest

    Hey Fabian, buddy, what do you think of the new plan?

    • Hector Arteaga

      It’s still better than what the big two offer. I know that’s unpopular right now, but it’s the truth.

      • Isaiah

        No it is not. With all the fees Verizon or AT&T would be cheaper.

        • Drewski

          Bro what is up with you being a total cry baby? So ungrateful/ scary.

  • Hector Arteaga

    All the rage! I don’t understand this. You’re still able to obtain unlimited data. At least they didn’t get rid of it like everyone was worried about last year (that’s when I was mad lol) They are moving towards an all unlimited data model and it bothers people? I understand the video is capped at 480p, but that looks great on a cell phone (I have a Note 7 and it looks very good at that res). Also, for a single user that just cares about using their phone, 70 dollars for the entry plan is great. Better than 95 (albeit more features).

  • rwmgd2

    T-Mobile which has been pro consumer I think fumbled the ball on this one. It’s a BLATANT violation of net neutrality rules….charging more for faster data crosses the line and is strictly prohibited in the rules. Come on T-Mobile, you’ve been a vocal advocate for net neutrality yet you’re violating the law with the T-Mobile One plan….

  • Waldo

    It would be funny if Un-Carrier 13 brings back the $95 all you can buffet, although i’m sure alot of folks wouldn’t mind. Given T-Mobile One is not on contract, unless I’m mistaken.

  • Mike

    I have the 2 lines unlimited everything promo deal for $100 the only way I’ll switch to this is if they offered it for 2 for $75 or $80 for existing members on other unlimited everything promo plans like mines. Doing this will help T-MO with the congestion.

  • Isaiah

    T Mobile should have gotten rid of their unlimited data plans in favor of small, medium, large, xtra large data buckets to fit the network and users needs. Keep Binge On and Music Freedom with the option to turn off binge on for free. That way if you want to watch HD Video you would get a larger data bucket for the HD Videos.

    • Unlimited Data Options

      No, I disagree. As a long time and Very loyal Tmobile customer, I enjoy my unlimited data plan option. For others, it is also great to have budget friendly options likewise…

      • Isaiah

        Then I hope you enjoy T Mobile One with all the carrier fees and more once T Mobile forces it on their customers.

        • Unlimited Data Options

          No, there is no reason to change, I have unlimited data now. However, as a suggestion (only), please read the T-mobile One news release and/or fact sheet and/or select a wireless provider of your choice or write a book or volunteer at the comedy club (smile)….

        • Isaiah

          I have read it but existing customers are not going to keep T Mobile in business they need new customer adds as well. I am pointing out the fact that no wireless carrier can offer unlimited data. Not to mention T Mobile has to place so many limits it would be better off to no longer off unlimited data.

        • Unlimited Data Options

          Isaiah, it is time to give it a rest, take a walk and read a good book on landscaping. It is not that serious, all of us have a choice on a carrier. If you are not please with your options Just change to another carrier…

        • Drewski

          Well said Bro.

    • Scotch

      The whole point of the Uncarrier movement is to move away with the traditional carrier model. I like my unlimited and is the reason I’m with T-Mobile. Once you go down the Carrier model, you become another Verizon/AT&T with eventually more restrictions and possibly new fees later on.

      • Isaiah

        With all the limits and fees with their unlimited Plan it is really not unlimited. At least AT&T and Verizon Wireless are being honest about it with their pricing and plans. Look how uncarrier T Mobile One plan is with all the bellow the belt fees. Oh did I say uncarrier I meant to say carrier.

        • gmo8492

          Lol, Verizon and At&t have never been honest with their pricing structure and fees. They have been sued dozens of times because of it and have even gotten in trouble with the FCC. They most notably have been trying to kick off their remaining unlimited data plan customers by offering free upgrades and switching their data plan right from under them.

        • Isaiah

          I disagree.Verizon and AT&T plans you choose how much data you need and can use however you want. While T Mobile is still in denial claiming their limted plans are unlimited. You don’t think T Mobile will not pull the same tactics with upgrades to force their existing customers over to T Mobile One Plans.

        • Francisco Peña

          yes, because sharing 9 GBs between all your lines is much better than 10GB for each line.

        • Isaiah

          They are being honest with their service and prices. T Mobile USA has yet to do that. That is why T Mobile would win on family plan pricing since their data cap is per line vs sharing it will all the lines. It is time for T Mobile USA to stop offering unlimited plans since their network can not handle it.

        • FryChickenIsha

          I totally agree with you, but these people might be the ones using 50GB+ per month. That is why they don’t want their precious unlimited plan gone.

        • Isaiah

          T Mobile has not been honest with advertising but telling people no contracts when indeed their was one and they have not fixed the glitch in their website that tells people that you can stream unlimited Binge On Video with the 2GB plan when it is not you have to have the 6GB plan or higher..

        • Francisco Peña

          And no, for a while there, VZW didn’t like to mention their “access line” fee in their ads. And do you really think it fair to purchase a phone from them (outright, or monthly, or at the time on contract) and purchase a data plan, and STILL get charged with a device access fee which gets charged every month for the priviledge of using that phone on the plan you purchased? IS that fair? I purchase a phone, and data for that phone, and I have to pay VZW the right to use those???

          Sorry, as a former VZW UDP user, VZW was good at nickle and diming us to death. They also loved to charge you an extra fee when you upgraded to a new phone.

        • Isaiah

          T Mobile USA’s advertising is just as deceptive as well. They advertise no contracts but that is not true since you have to sign an agreement for service and an agreement for device financing that is tied to your service. If you do not agree with Verizon’s fee their is always AT&T, Sprint, or T Mobile.

    • Drewski

      You scare me Bro. Stop ruining it for everyone else that hates limited data usages. Dont like it, then stop complaining and take yourself back to Verizon Wireless or AT&T Mobility.

      • Isaiah

        No wireless network can offer unlimited data. Why do you think Verizon Wireless is starting to terminate people who use massive amounts of data on their grandfathered unlimited plans? Those plans were never meant for unlimited HD/4K streaming or tethering. The network can not handle it so they would rather not have you as a customer. T Mobile’s Binge On was trying to get users to use SD video in exchange for it not counting against your data and offered a free movie rental for unlimited customers but that did not work since unlimited customers disabled it. Now T Mobile USA is going to charge customers to turn it off in hopes of dissuading users from watching HD or 4K content on their network. Which also violates the FCC Net Neutrality rules. Lets not forget about the 21GB soft cap where they can throttle you if the tower is congested in your area. It is time for T Mobile USA to stop offering Unlimited Data plans and switch unlimited users off of them.

        • Francisco Peña

          They can offer it. The issue is the congestion. However, the amount of people using massive amounts of data isn’t the issue. What is the issue is that under whatever new plans are available, Verizon is losing alot of money, or rather, not earning as much as they’d like, by the UDP users that pay under $50 (especially with corporate discounts).

        • Isaiah

          That is double talk you can not sit here and say they can offer unlimited data when their network can not handle the unlimited data customers due to congestion. The whole marketing of Unlimited Data in the cellular phone market is dishonest their is no such thing. The legacy Simple Choice Unlimited customers have a soft cap and Binge On turned on by default. The new T Mobile One Plans still have a soft cap and Binge On in addition to that you have to pay for high speed tethering and pay to have Binge On Turned off. Those fees they imposed is to deter people from using massive amounts of data on their network. So their plans are not unlimited plans they are limited with caveats and fees. So it is dishonest for T Mobile or any other carrier to market their plans as unlimited. That is why I am calling for T Mobile USA to end their unlimited plans and come up with data bucket that are completive and their network can handle. That would help with the network congestion.

        • Drewski

          You sound very annoying and scary. Stop telling T-Mobile to end their Unlimited Data plans Bro. You are so pushy and desperate to see T-Mobile go down. If you dislove T-Mobile so much, then just simply take your happy self with Money Hungry greedy animal companies like Verizon, Sprint and AT&T. You are the type that once something becomes temporary(Knowing it to only last at least an hour or maybe several hours), is when you start acting like a spoiled little kid that is never satisfied with the outcome at first sight Bro. T-Mobile will always offer better plans/Truly Unlimited Data plans. You can never make us lose our privileges. Do you hear me? As a matter of fact I will see to it that someone blocks you from ever trying to take privileges away from T-Mobile Bro. You are angry and jealous of T-Mobile. Go away you Verizon pushy animal.

        • Isaiah

          You accusing me of being angry when I pointed out their plans are not unlimited as they falsely claim. To top it off you are claiming T Mobile is going to go down if they stopped offering unlimited data like the other wireless carriers have done. Then resort to name calling like a school yard bully who does not get their way. LOL! Why don’t you stop with your personal attacks, name calling, and address the issues brought up. I am trying to get T Mobile USA to offer realistic wireless plans their network can handle. My goal is not to destroy T Mobile but for their plans and services to be realistic. It is time you unlimited users woke up to the fact that wireless carriers can not offer unlimited data like a wired broadband provider it is no longer the days of basic phones where unlimited data was possible now you have phones that can rack up hundreds of Gigabytes and in some cases Terabytes of data. T Mobile USA is trying to appease to heavy data user with T Mobile One Plan but the problem is, it alienates the users who do not use that much data with expensive add ons it is not a good deal. I would rather see their not so unlimited plans go away in favor of data buckets that include their popular services included in their Simple Choice Plans. That way it would be fair to small, moderate, and heavy data users so they can purchase what data they need.

        • Drewski

          You are dishonest and non realistic. All you are doing is hurting my feelings and everyone elses. You are making everyone on here cry their eyes out realistically. Instead of telling the truth, you insist with spreading false information on T-Mobile that will never be true. You are viciously attacking me/T-Mobile and everyone else that so happens to know that T-Mobiles network can a thousand times way more capacity/more data usages than any other carrier would have ever dream to of. Verizon has slow speeds just like AT&T/Sprint does. Verizon is limited, due to their poor capacity not being allowed to use up so much gigabytes. That’s why T-Mobile LTE Data speeds reaches sky rocketed higher than Verizon’s, AT&T n Sprints? Bullcrap you are severly making me tear my eyes out. I will be letting every employee/CEO of T-Mobile n everyone in T-Mobile about how you are threatening to get our Truly Unlimited Data taken away. Leave us alone and stop being a total Troll with no life except to scare all of us away. You are way too overly harsh for your own Good. T-Mobile will never go down. Go back to Verizon where you belong. Verizon is way too overly priced with no Truly Unlimited Data. Stop harassing me and everyone else on this darn Post Bro. Now seriously be gone already. Thank you.

        • Isaiah

          Get over yourself. It is not my problem you can’t handle reality.

        • FryChickenIsha

          “T-Mobiles network can a thousand times way more capacity/more data usages than any other carrier would have ever dream to of” This might have been true when T-Mobile had 34 Million customers. Now, it’s slow just like Verizon, and AT&T. Sprint was never fast.

        • Drewski

          Who asked you? Lol Troll along. I still get faster speeds with T-Mobile than I ever did with Verizon, Sprint n AT&T. Try again buddy. Have a nice Day now.

        • Not Drewski

          Faster speeds dont mean crap if you dont have coverage. I’ll stick with my $70 unlimted cricket plan. 8mbps is fast enough for me. Thanks!

        • Not Drewski

          Plus ATT has more specturm than verizon or t-mobile. Look it up!

        • Drewski

          Trol troll troll. False statements don’t get you no where Buddy. Were you banned from commenting? LOL. Please AT&T stores in their own Coverage area still has trouble picking up faster data speeds/stronger LTE signal, while T-Mobiles LTE was able to receive better signal penetration/Faster Data speeds than what AT&T was doing. Go eat rocks and stop trolling.

        • Drewski

          Troller troller troller, leave us alone. Faster speeds does mean something you AT&T/Cricket Wireless troll. That’s why you guys have massive loads of outages/ is still unable to do Voice over LTE/Enhanced Voice Services or perhaps do WiFi Calling just fine, Right? What a sad troll you really are. Your own network does not support advanced towers/Network like T-Mobile-MetroPCS does. Stop crying and go eat more rocks to chew on there Buddy.

        • Drewski

          T-Mobile is still the fastest in the nation. What are you smoking on right now?

        • pepe
        • Drewski

          Wow troll my facts are, T-Mobile will always outshine Sprint, AT&T n Verizon Wireless whenever it comes indoor building penetration/speed in most areas within the USA country. Root Metrics is not always fully accurate. That’s why they have trouble with keeping up with T-Mobiles upgrades which would be fully completed, once testing T-Mobile?? They are not fast enough. T-Mobile-MetroPCS network Rules. Go eat some grass please sweetie. Buh Bye Troll.

        • Drewski

          Goodbye Troll. Troll along you sorry Verizon idiot.

        • Isaiah

          I am troll for pointing out that a wireless network can not handle unlimited data and pointed out how T Mobile USA is limiting their supposed unlimited plans. Their limits are increasing with their new plans and you have to pay to get HD Video and high speed tethering in order to decrease the data traffic on their network. LOL!

        • Drewski

          Troll troll troll. Stop trolling and stop scaring all the kids away. How about you go the the gym and stop with all the harmburger eating. Go away Verizon Troll.

        • keepitreal25

          The soft cap is actually a condition / term of net neutrality to ensure every wireless user can have a good experience using their Internet , look it up, if it wasn’t an condition all of the carriers wouldn’t have implemented it

  • ribbitz

    If One replaces the current 6GB plan I’m in now, I’m gone. I don’t need to tether often (chromecast a presentation, continuing work when landline goes down) but when I do, 2G is NOT going to cut it. Currently, 6GB is 6GB tethered or not, and that’s perfectly workable. Also, I won’t abide gatekeepers over my content quality. I have binge off now and have no problem staying within 6GB and don’t need to pay 25 bucks for “help” doing that.

    • gmo8492

      Whatever plan you have now will automatically grandfathered in with the same terms and conditions as before. They did that to me with the original unlimited data plan and family plans they no longer offer. They only seem to like messing up the unlimited data plan. Its been through 3 changes now, first it was $70, then $80, and $95. Perks have been added to justify the prices increases, but this time their taking away features and making it more expensive than ever.

      • emcdonald75

        The 5GB mobile hotspot should have been thrown in with the $70 plan and the second line should have cost $30 with the 3rd line and more lines costing an additional $20 each. Then the new T-Mobile One plan would not have seemed so bad. It is ridiculously overpriced while offering less than the current plan options. Then an additional $15 for more hotspot data would not have seemed so bad and $25 HD would have been more understanding. It is basically the $95 plan now without the 14GB hotspot data.

  • Romdude

    I’m just glad they don’t take away grandfathered plans. I’m keeping my unlimited high speed data for $20 with 5 gig wireless hotspot and my original JUMP.

    • Dennis P

      same

  • Neoprimal

    This is the first thing they’ve done in a long time that makes me unhapppy. This is not movement in the right direction by any means.

  • Glad I Left CA

    Disappointed, T-Mo. Seriously. Not good. What the heck?

    • Glad I Left CA

      The more I think about it, the madder I get.
      Cap the video size, but pony up unlimited data? What the heck? Get rid of tethering? Not happy, not at all. I’m a share holder, and THIS sucks.

      • FryChickenIsha

        You’ll be glad you left T-Mobile too. :)

        • Drewski

          Be quiet Troll.

  • steven berson

    This plan is stupid. The greed is getting to there head.

  • Guest

    There are many that are surprised about this move by T-Mobile. But I kinda saw it coming.

    When the people in a company don’t care about NN (Binge On, Music Freedom, free Pokemon data…), don’t care about your diet (free Domino’s pizza, free Frosty), don’t care to differentiate between people who just want a new phone and people who want a new phone and also want all their data transferred (upgrade fee), don’t care about the almost useless phones they sell to other people (the many 1GB/8GBs phones)… when you see does things happening, you kinda have an idea of what’s going on.

  • Drewski

    Troll troll troll. Your false statements makes me scared of you. T-Mobile can handle way better of a data traffic than Verizon/AT&T/Sprint would have ever dream to of. Leave please troll.

  • FryChickenIsha

    “If you’d like video up to 4K, you can add it for $25 per month per line.” So, I can’t use my data however I want to use it? What if I want to watch HD video with the data I’m already paying for? Oh, that’s right, I have to pay more. Thanks T-Mobile.

    • Rob

      Current unlimited plan is 95 a month. If you took the autopay credit and added the HD video to the new plan its 95 a month. The only people who get screwed are those who tether but for those who do, the other Simple Choice plans will still be available (2GB and 6GB at least, not sure about 10GB). Like it or not, this plan offers the most bang for the buck to your average consumer who doesn’t even know what tethering is and can’t tell the difference between HD and SD on their 4.0-5.3″ screens.

  • Dennis P

    guys who are on the original unlimited plan. Can you try playing videos in 1080p on youtube? I try on mine and it stops and lags every few seconds and doesn’t really catch up. Is tmobile throttling us older unlimited plans now too?

    • FryChickenIsha

      It also lags on mine. I thought they were only throttling us whenever the network was congested. I guess not anymore.

  • Walt

    How will this affect metro customers?

    • Fabian

      They may do the same useless tethering for Metro and make video throttling mandatory.

  • Richard Villanova

    T-Mo if you choose to phase out all Simple Choice plans for current customers I will JUMP! for another carrier.

    • Zacamandapio

      I wonder what carrier that Would be. I’ve 5 lines with T-Mo for $140 w/10GB ea. Unlimited music, BingeON, Data Stash, etc. I would switch too, but the options are very limited.

  • J.R. Vasquez

    TMO is not a non-profit! LOL Yes, Legere shook things up pretty good for a while, props. “UNCARRIER” – TMO is not really. Now that they’ve come back from the brink and have been on a roll (despite having a limited selection of phones…) the greedy American corporate entity that kind of hid itself is now exposed. They are just a mini version of AT&T and Verizon.

    The sad truth is that compared to every first world nation on the planet, the US citizen is getting screwed by the telecoms, wireless and traditional.

    • Drewski

      Goodbye Troll. T-Mobile has and will always be the Un-Carrier. Root Metrics is not always accurate. They have trouble keep up with the whole seeing the upgrades on what T-Mobile has done every second, each and every single day that comes by that time Bro.

      • J.R. Vasquez

        “Goodbye Troll” LOL! That’s a good one Fan Boi, err, Bro. I have been with T-Mo for over 10 years now. I don’t recall mentioning Root Metrics, don’t get your butt hurt son… ;)

        • Drewski

          Troll troll troll away from all of us Hater. T-Mobile is a non profit/Un-Carrier deal Bro. I’m just stating facts. You did scare me and hurt my feelings with you making up a false story about how T-Mobiles network is becoming slower just like AT&T/Verizon Wirelesses. No need to tell false sorry and make people like myself Cry. Noe troll along.

        • Drewski

          Now*

        • J.R. Vasquez

          LOL… Come out of your folks basement and walk around breathing in the fresh air for a while.

        • J.R. Vasquez

          Ohh! Listen kid, don’t get me wrong, TMo still offers the best bang for the buck in the USA…

        • andy

          ignore drewski. he is the biggest fan boy of t-mobile
          even when the facts are in his face. ie this article!

        • Fabian

          He’s so ridiculous I sometimes think he’s actually being sarcastic and making fun of real T-Mo fanboys. But since he spends so much time trolling the “trolls” I think otherwise.

        • Drewski

          Bullcrap fake Fabian. Stop being fake and start getting real Bro. Stop being a Crybaby and get with the program. I’m a True T-Mobile-MetroPCS Fan/Family here. :)

        • Drewski

          For the record if you read the article correctly, you would then know that it had something to do with Root Metrics, due to you calling T-Mobile slow.

  • Rob

    I don’t really get the uproar here. Everyone knew that T-Mobile needed to actually start turning a profit at some point. This plan really only screws those that tether and those that won’t do autopay. The base 2GB and 6GB Simple Choice plans will still be around for those of us that want to pay less and/or need tethering available occasionally and for new customers or existing customers who already use Binge On (there are a lot of them, even my roommate uses Binge On because he can’t tell the difference between having it on or off on his phone screen), this is a really great deal. Yeah so they took tethering out. Big deal. Yeah so video is limited to 1.5Mbps – again… big deal. Autopay being required for the 5 dollar credit is the only problem I have because I don’t do autopay anything. Period, without exception. Calling T-Mobile greedy for offering unlimited data for 70 bucks with the caveats being 1.5Mbps video, autopay, and no tethering when the previous plan was 95 dollars a month with no option for a lower unlimited value is being petty. If you need to tether, keep your current plan or pay the 15 bucks for the add on. If 4K video is so important on a screen that you won’t really notice the difference on, pay the 25 bucks. If you’re not happy with either of these options, go find unlimited with no stipulations somewhere else… Oh wait, you can’t.

    • Fabian

      There’s no guarantee for how long the 2 and 6GB will be. T-Mobile Carrier ONE propaganda says “THE END OF RATE PLANS”

      • Fabian

        Correction, it says:

        ONE PRICE.
        ALL UNLIMITED.
        FOR EVERYONE.

        September 6th is the
        END OF DATA PLANS

        • Rob

          And it would be the end of T-Mobile if that was their only plan. They have already gone on record that they’re keeping the 2GB and 6GB plans for the time being. Quit making mountains out of a molehill.

        • Prode

          for the time being yes but they will end them at one point

  • Bri

    I find these discussions to be mundane and repetitive every time T-Mobile changes their plans and they way they do things. If you work for T-Mobile, I don’t believe for one second you’ll quit your job and work somewhere else over a plan change. New features means new pay outs and spiffs and no one will talk any of this sh!! to a customer on the day the new plan rolls out and your looking at a 4 line prime, but because you don’t like the plan you wont sell it? Yea right. No other carrier offers truly unlimited data anyway, and as a company grows of course price points are going to go along with it. I’m not crazy about auto pay and the $5 charge, but at the same time it is what it is and im sure you would pay more than a $5 charge going anywhere else with overages. That’s my 2 cents, now let the haters hate and pick apart what i said…..go to work!

    • Prode

      I have a friend that works for T-Mobile and yes he is going to stay with the company with the plan changes but no he will not get paid more because of the change. This plan will be all that t-mobile offers at one point so you will have no choice on what to get. That means that the reps will have to sell just this.

  • Tmo user 1234

    My biggest question is what is happening with mobile hotspot devices? As of right now, they are considered the same as tablets. Does this mean the unlimited $20 tablet plan will work? Add HD video for $25 and that’s not a bad deal at all! I doubt this is the case, but (T-Mobile) one can hope!

    • Bryck

      I was wondering the same. With the extra $25 bucks would I be able to stream unlimited to my TV through the hotspot without having to worry about the 26 GB cap?

  • perturbed(means anxious)

    un-carrier 12 is really re-carrier 1

  • noh1bvisas

    “if you like your plan, you can keep your plan”
    .
    sounds familiar.

  • jj201367

    I like my current plan 4×100 2.5gb