T-Mobile Galaxy Note II Passes Through The FCC, Is Future Proofed With LTE

Talk about some big news on a Friday night as we get word that the Samsung Galaxy Note II for T-Mobile passes through the FCC. Of course that in and of itself isn’t the big news, the BIG news is the report itself which lists the following available frequencies for wireless:

850/1900 GSM/GPRS/EDGE, 850/1700/1900 WCDMA/HSPA, Band 4 (5, 10, 15, 20 MHz), 17 LTE (5, 10 MHz).

Yup, that’s both 700 MHz for LTE roaming and 1700 MHz (T-Mobile’s AWS band) for LTE, which means only one thing — the Galaxy Note II is future proofed for T-Mobile’s LTE network, coming in 2013.

The rest of the report is under confidentiality so there isn’t a whole lot else we can discover from the FCC filings, but at this point the presence of LTE was the only unknown we had hoped to find. The rest of the Note II is pretty standard globally so we don’t expect any more surprises. To be honest, with the discovery of LTE on board, we can’t think of any better surprises.

While it’s true my excitement of LTE and future-proofing may be preliminary, the Galaxy Note II is likely to be a device many of you consider to be the best of both the tablet and smartphone world. The knowledge that the device will be ready and waiting for T-Mobile’s LTE network to go live in 2013 and won’t require a new piece of hardware is just a little bit of comfort in a world where hardware turns over far faster than our upgrade dates.

For your own viewing pleasure, you can glance at the FCC docs at the link below.

FCC via Engadget

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  • Nice T-mo is on a roll!


    What about WCDMA 2100?

    • farfromovin

      ^x2, great question!

      • 1700 is all you need.

        • farfromovin

          Thanks, I get the whole 17/21 thing mixed up every time.

        • AOSP

          Are you sure? I thought T-Mo’s HSPA required a combination of 1700 and 2100 for downlink and uplink?

        • J-Hop2o6

          He means all that’s needed to be listed is the 1700 part. We automatically know it includes 2100. Plus when 2100 is listed, that means the Euro band 2100.

        • Jason Crumbley

          Thanks for clarifying. The “all you need” response left me wondering why.

        • Sorry, I should have been more clear, but this guy took care of it for me :-)

        • Derek

          You need 2100 for international travel. The frequencies listed are all
          for the US only

  • So Extremely Excellent!

  • Zebulon Dak

    this news pleases me greatly.

  • palus85@hotmail.com

    Really thought they weren’t gonna do that but I bet Samsung didn’t want to not include it.

  • palus85@hotmail.com

    With butter lol.

  • farfromovin

    Just wish we got 32gb variants, everything else is shaping up nicely. The LTE addition means I might not have to replace this phone after a year, hopefully, lol.

  • taron19119@gmail.com

    Im mad at T-Mobile for this cause the gs3 is not feature proof for lte

    • gwhyte01

      Come on man. You know as soon as the gs4 comes out your gonna drop the 3.

      • taron19119@gmail.com

        Nope im going to get a phone in Q4 if T-Mobile gets the phone thats rumor to come out

        • steve1026

          And what phone is that?

  • Great news. Now all the people that said it didn’t, can now be quiet. Good job T-Mobile. Bring the pain, cause your current 4G is faster than some other LTE networks.

  • This is HUGE. Tell me where else are you going to find a Galaxy Note II and a TRULY unlimited data plan with LTE (and HSPA+ 42mbps backhaul)? NO WHERE but T-Mo.

    Although every carrier will feature the device, getting it on T-Mo (coverage allowing) is simply a NO BRAINER.
    Sorry for so many caps, but this news really is THAT SERIOUS.

    • J-Hop2o6

      ^^ This.

      And this is a first, but notice its only dual-band GSM/2G !o.0! Haven’t seen under quad-band GSM for YEARS. This is the start of 2G being phased out!!

      • eanfoso

        I certainly hope made a typo and forgot to mention about the 2100 frequency?!?!?!

        • bleeew

          1700 band also has the 2100. If it said 2100 and didn’t say 1700, then thats a different story. So this works on T-Mobile

      • Fabian Cortez

        It’s the FCC. The tests will only show the bands that are used in the U.S.

        GSM-900 and/or 1800 are not used in this country, nor is UMTS-900 and/or 2100.

        Nokia usually makes a mention about other bands in its documents.

        From the Lumia 920:

        Outside of USA and Canada, the transmitter of the device is capable of operating also in GSM/GPRS/EGPRS900, GSM/GPRS/EGPRS1800, WCDMA900, WCDMA2100, LTE845 (Band 20), LTE900 (Band 8), LTE1800 (Band 3), LTE2100 (Band 1) and LTE2500 (Band 7) bands which are not part of this filing.

    • Ryan

      I thought you said truly unlimited. Too bad the mobile doesn’t give you that truly unlimited only on 4g.

      • YEP

        Too bad TMobile actually DOES offer truly unlimited 4g

      • Paul

        Too bad you are far from correct. The “limit” it hits is ridiculously high, high enough that a web serve with a very high traffic would come close but not a phone. For mobile data it is so high it’s unlimited. It’s ALSO on their 4G network.

      • mingkee

        10TB is next to impossible to go over except you run data center.

        • bleeew

          What does that mean?

        • eanfoso

          Get out of here if you don’t even know what a terabyte is, fool

    • bleeew

      I just don’t understand how T-MO is last. How is Sprint 3rd? They got slow data, and smaller coverage. :(..

    • Richard Yarrell

      Yes I can see your overall excitment there is NO REASON not to feel this way. The Galaxy Note 2 will be the BEST OVERALL all purpose device for the NEXT 6 to 8 months. Nothing coming out in the next 90 to 180 days will better than this unless it is the Galaxy Note 3. T-mobile has been doing some MAJOR WORK and it’s current hspa plus network tops any LTE network here in New York City. I left Verizon for t-mobile WHY cause I made the discovery that GSM was better than CDMA which was the exact
      correlation to why my T-mobile Galaxy S3 worked 100% better than my former Verizon Galaxy Nexus. My S3 never has lost data connect since purchase on June 28th it has never had poor signal strenght/reception. My dBm remain in the area of 77dBm to 85dBm and my asu is at 17. My battery life is 15hrs heavy use and over 27 to 33 hrs light use. Tmobile and it’s hspa plus network runs rings around Verizon and it’s battery draining lte network. The Verizon Galaxy Nexus had horrible battery life, dreadful data connection, and horid reception/signal strenght and everyone who ever had that device on that network complained daily. My bill was 190 for 2lines of service with 10gb of data monthly. On tmobile I have UNLIMITED for my Galaxy S3 and my bill is 77 dollars. I will be getting the Galaxy Note 2 on day one of launch and I will be enjoying the BEST of both worlds with the Galaxy S3 and Galaxy Note 2. Nothing arriving the future NO NEXUS 2, NO DROID INCREDIBLE X, NO OPTIMUS G, NO DROID RAZR MAXX HD, will ever compare to this Galaxy Note 2. Tmobile should be proud of it’s network which will have LTE ADVANCED in 2013 falling back on Hspa plus 42 and the top pick of the best devices android has to offer.

      • Jay20

        i’d be excited but if you look at their coverage map, you’ll notice how very VERY few of the places are “3G/4G” and most of it outside of cities and LI are EDGE/GPRS. Or else T-Mobile would be awesome. and a carrier without the 700 band or bands below a GHz is troubling.

  • Contestking

    wait for the Note 3 which will probably have a 20 megapixel camera, that’s the next big feature for phones…

  • I’m probably going to sell my GS3 and my Nexus 7 for the Note II and just use this single device for my phone and tablet needs. I’m fully on board the phablet train if they can make them this good.

  • Andrew

    Now that we know T-Mobile’s LTE bands, does anyone know if the unlocked AT&T Version of the HTC One X will work on T-Mobile’s LTE network?

    • theking_13

      No, cause the One X uses a different band.

    • In the future Att LTE phones will use AWS also, but all current ones I believe only use the 700Mhz band.

      • UMA_Fan

        the iPhone 5 has aws lte support

    • JayInCA

      The HTC One X built for AT&T will run at HSPA+ 21.1mbps on T-Mobile’s refarmed 1900mhz frequency band, that’s analogous to AT&T, and also be LTE compatible to T-Mobile’s future LTE frequency usage of AWS Class 17 1700/2100. So yes, the HOX will run on T-Mobile’s future LTE network. See this link for proof: http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_one_x_at&t-4614.php

  • Durandal_1707

    Argh! And I had almost convinced myself to take advantage of the discounted GS3 this weekend. But if future-proof LTE phones are just around the corner, would it be better to wait (and probably pay $200 or so more)? Or just get the GS3 and eBay it when a decent LTE phone is available? I can’t stand this G2x much longer!

  • Decisions decisions decisions

    • achusaysblessyou

      There’s only 1 acceptable one, camp outside t-mobile stores :D

  • UMA_Fan

    So the big question is will this have HSPA+ 42?

    • taron19119@gmail.com

      Every phone T-Mobile comes out wit has hspa+42

      • UMA_Fan

        That’s meaningless. We have never seen an android phone with both HSPA+ 42 and LTE. I think there would have to be a special chipset to support that. So far, we’ve only seen LTE/HSPA+ 21 phones.

        • taron19119@gmail.com

          Worng the ipad 3 and iphone 5 have hspa+42 and lte

        • paul2834


          ^We already knew the non T-Mobile variants would be equipped with LTE, but there’s mention of HSPA+ 42 there which has to be at least for T-Mobile. The FCC documents also shows support LTE. Therefore, that’s enough evidence in my book for LTE/HSPA+ 42 support in the same phone.

  • â“œ@®!â“ž G@®CI@ â„¢

    OMG! after today i will be spending my money wisely to save up for this Beast! its a no brainer really T-Mobile im so happy to be your customer 6 years in a row I always ask my self how Sprint has more subscribers than you with their network being painfully slow …. again T-Mobile Take my money im buying this off contract

  • bleeew

    No AWS HSPA+? Will it support 42+Mbps? And is LTE-A backwards compatible for LTE?

  • Galaxy S3 Owner

    So is the Galaxy S3 not future proofed???

  • Galaxy S3 Owner

    So is the Galaxy S3 futureproofed???

  • MarcusDW

    Note 2 it is for me. I was literally about to pick up the GS3 tomorrow along with my wife tomorrow because it’s going for $148 now BUT I can hold out for another month or two to get a future proofed phone.

    • Wilma Flintstone

      I know you don’t think you gonna beat me in line pstreagle. You already know you got to take that hand me down 2nd place spot after me. Lol

      • MarcusDW

        Wilma please! I’m already IN line for that beast waiting on it to drop.
        Tell me you aint still rockin that… what was that thing called? The HD2?

        • Wilma Flintstone

          Say WHATTT???!! You ain’t in line because I’d see you up here. Even old man Hobo Jones beat you here and he got a limp leg andthe other is a peg leg. LOL

          O.O I know you didn’t just try me like that… >.> yes I’m still on that HD2 (sigh)… T_T LOL!!!

        • MarcusDW

          I’m camped out in the new CEO’s yard waiting on mine! He said it should be out “In the coming months”.
          I can’t believe you’re still using that thing lol. It’s official this time right? Note II for you?

        • Wilma Flintstone

          LOL you know you in his next door neighbor’s yard right? The real yard is one yard to your right. It’s the one with the Blue and White dog in it named Sammy.

          LOL Yeah man, I actually found one that lasted me for a while now. Yep, it’s official time now. This HD2 is being retired by the end of the year. It’s either Note 2 or Jolla MeeGo for me. Both of which are available by the year’s end.

      • mreveryphone

        I’m already in line where ya’ll at?

        • Wilma Flintstone

          Man you at the wrong store. I’m at Tmobile, you in front of Publix. LOL

        • mreveryphone


      • Ulysses Geist

        Hey Wilma, I thought you would have been holding out for one of those rumoured GSIII with Tizen that samsung is supposed to be releasing early next year.

        • Wilma Flintstone

          Tizen is taking too long and from what was shown, it doesn’t look that hot anymore. I’m switching gears to Jolla and their MeeGo variant. They will have a device ready to show and available to the masses before the end of the year.

        • Ulysses Geist

          I agree as well, Tizen is taking too long and samsung appears to have integrated touchwiz into their build. If they actually get it stable, it will probably not look a lot different from their androids. I was also really intrigued with Jolla, I had an N9 with meego and really liked it so I am curious to see what they come up with. The question I have for Jolla is were they able to keep the swipe ui that meego had.

    • BigMixxx

      With you right there big dog. I’m all over this one. This might be the phone to actually hold me down for 1.5 to 2 years….

    • Trevnerdio

      Month or two…or 5. You know these things don’t happen quickly man

      • MarcusDW

        All the carriers are gearing up to sell this thing and I highly doubt it will take long to come out after its announced. The GS3 was announced for US early June and went on sale June 21st…

        • Trevnerdio

          True that

  • mreveryphone

    I’ve got to get some credit for this one!?

  • achusaysblessyou

    i cant wait!

  • My heart is racing! I don’t fuckin believe it! LTE!!!!!!!!!!!! YESSS! YES! YESSSSSS!!!!! I did want the OG note at one point but it was shadowed by the ONE X+ but now this is changing my mind again. Tmo is really gonna be a super competitor to AT&T & Verizon by 2014. I see Sprint going down to 4th in the future too.

    • fixxmyhead

      Yup sprint is a joke. Tmo is gonna have good back haul with hspa+ while sprint will be stuck with slow ass dial up 3g speeds

      • bleeew

        And their slow roll-outs. You either get LTE or 3G on Sprint LTE phone, so people are out of luck on Sprint. While on T-mobile you can have a 3G phone and get higher speeds due to tower upgrades. All T-Mo needs to do is cover the 2G spots and make them HSPA+

    • TBN27

      May i offer you a cigarette? :)

    • Roberto Roberto Roberto

  • rj

    Sweet LTE on board, seems like t-mobile is starting to listen to it’s customers, need this phone to come out like tomorrow have the money set aside. Samsung and tmo please unleash the monster note II ASAP, i’ve been holding out for an awesome phone as great as the S3 is I want the note II and i want it now lol!

  • Qbancelli

    They made it square

  • Hope

    Anyone know if Galaxy Note 2 will come with 32gb or TMo will only carry the 16gb version ?

  • steveb944

    Holy Crap! Idk if I can even say that on here, but I’m excited! Now I really can’t wait for release

  • Azazellov

    This is the phone I was waiting for… I had the HD2 for so long until it finally died 2 weeks ago, it was still running Jelly Bean CM10 pretty decently though. I just got a Sensation for now but I will buy Note II the first day it comes out.

  • eanfoso

    Is it just me or is the note 2 really NOT going to have the 2100 frequency?! I’m a little concerned about this….

    • JMccovery

      When the FCC lists WCDMA1700 is the US 1700/2100, since 1700 is the downlink, and 2100 is the uplink. What this does mean is that the FCC has not tested for the International (IMS?) 2100 band, which may mean that the US variants of the Note II may not work in parts of Europe.

      • Fabian Cortez

        Band 4 is named “1700” due to the uplink and not the downlink. Most of the other bands are/were named for their downlink. But since Band I and Band 4 share the same downlink, and since Band I came first, Band 4 was name by its uplink instead.

        Band I/1: 2100 down, 1900 up

        Band IV/4: 2100 down, 1700 up

    • DUDE

      if you missed out from the other posts, the 1700 freq guarantees the 21 freq

  • Win1808

    This is a guaranteed buy for me and a phone that will last me for a good year or two. Damn im happy knowing lte support will be here for this device. I’m stoked and don’t give an f about the iPhone 5 unlocked which i was thinking of purchasing. Thank you very much Tmobile, this is why Im still a loyal customer and will be here to the wheels fall off.

  • Justin

    I’m due for an upgrade 11/9/2012 the note will be mine hahahsha.

  • Get_at_Me

    A lot excitement around the note 2…rightfully so. I can see the next samsung commercial now…..ppl waiting in line outside for the note 2, then jealous ip5 users come up wondering what all the fuss is about….lol.

  • GeekNerdStuff

    I can’t wait! I’ve got the original T-Mobile Galaxy Note which is discontinuedly awesome (lol) and I’ll be getting the Note II at the upgrade price as well.

  • Mike Hunt

    Looks nice. The included LTE bodes well for the future! Too big for me, I can’t see stuffing this thing into my front jeans pocket or inner suit jacket pocket though. Hopefully the One X+ is a reality and will also include LTE. Fingers crossed….

  • mikkej2k

    Finally , the strategy for the transition is taking shape.

    Hopefully , there won’t be any software locking or limiting usage of all of the phones capabilities.

  • Paul

    THIS is how T-Mobile use to be, offering the BEST of the BEST to it’s customers.
    Truly Unlimited Data and RIDICULOUSLY great phones. Once they get their customer service back to where it once was I will be as proud as I was before the dreaded “merger” plan that failed.

  • This is great news! The Note is rather large (for my needs), but this great for users waiting for this to drop on TMO. Sad the SGS3 isn’t “future” proof :( Anyone know if a SG4 would arrive anytime by Q2 of 2013 with LTE? If so, I can hold out for that.

    • DUDE

      should be expected that samsung will release the next samsung galaxy s4 around the same time it released the s3 with the us release being slightly after

    • mingkee

      I suspect LTE is just “hidden” as ATT model has it. I think somebody who is brave enough to port radio from GN2 to S3 to enable AWS HSPA+ and LTE. If it is successful, S3 will be future proof too.

  • Vic

    Pretty cool. Can’t wait to see what T-Mobile does with LTE. Hopefully their WP8 launch devices include LTE support.

  • David

    Yes this very big. i just wondering if this is part of the reason that HTC and T Mobile delayed the One X+ I would love to have either of these phones. Maybe a little more on the HTC side cuz they feel better built. What if the One X + came out with LTE would that change anyone mind???

    • Chimphappyhour

      Yes it would. At this point, with LTE being out in a year, I’ve been holding off on using my upgrade until LTE devices came out. Looks like I don’t have to wait quite as long as I thought.

  • D Velasquez

    1300 Ma?? that phone is going to drain the battery by only dialing a number! the Amaze itself have a 1700 Ma battery..

    • Mirad77

      Given the way you write Ma instead of mA I seriously doubt you know what mA implies.

    • Mirad77

      If it will make you sleep better the battery capacity of Gnote 2 is 3100mAh.

    • Good thing it’s 3100 then, right?

  • j.jay

    I got a question, does this mean that once lte is rolled out on the 1700 band, will this one pick up the hspa+ on the 1900 band like unlocked phones? Can someone please answer this?

    • J-Hop2o6


  • Been with T-Mobile forever, I would not leave them. Last year during the AT&T scandal as I like to refer it as, I added another line with Verizon while they still had their unlimited data plan. Still have it but if I had to drop one due to cost I would drop Verizon. T-Mobile is changing, lately if anyone notices their customer service has gotten much better, they are doing a ton of work on their network, they are bringing in great phones. T-Mobile is looking into the future and that is exciting for the long time T-Mobile customer. Thank You T-Mobile.

  • dkbnyc
  • Basem Salem

    Is T-Mobile going to have 4g lte Advanced?

    • jct


    • bleeew

      Its going to have a head start against the greedy top dogs VZW and AT&T, and faster than the mediocre Sprint.

  • AgDon

    I agree this is huge and just sealed the GN2 as my next phone

  • Anonymous

    i have such bad timing

    i just bought an unlocked htc one x… on edge (2g) 90% of the time.. poor battery life..

    now news of LTE comes out.. which means the htc one x + will have lte…. just wasted my $.. to return or not.. hmm

    • PoleSmoker

      Return that shit!

      • Anonymous

        ok actually it was my bad, i mistakenly set it to “gsm only”.. not sure why. however, now that i put it at “gsm/wcmda auto” i get 3g, but not all the time. it will still kick back down to edge and disconnect me once in awhile. then again, i work in an area with low reception. i guess i’ll keep it. thank you!

  • babydoll25

    Do want (and I am getting one!)

  • get off of me hoe

    i cant wait until this comes out hspa+42 and lte future proof thats nice im just curious about that eyxnos processor compare to the other quad core chip

  • My body is ready, ready and willing

  • mingkee

    Too bad I have already upgraded to S3 so I can get the down payment rebate. Notwithstanding S3 does not have LTE (or it’s just hidden), the performance on HSPA+ is pretty decent (up to 20Mbps at Coney Island), so it’s good for a year until Cat 10 LTE Advanced phone comes.

    • Jay20

      does not, run terminal emulator, type getprop, and you’ll see the modem is 8260A, whereas on the ATT/VZ one, its 8960

  • Chris

    I actually like the Note 1 far better. This is a downgrade in some ways. First off, it’s got the exact same 1280X720 resolution as the S-III. It’s just a big S-III. The Note 1 had a 1280X800 resolution screen. Higher resolution, better PPI, and better aspect ratio than this Note 2. This would look less crisp than an S-III, as it’s just enlarged at the same res. Obviously, it being larger would make readability better on web sites, movies, etc.

    • DUDE

      i believe the samsung galaxy s3 comes with a pentile matrix vs. the samsung galaxy note 2 comes with a rgb matrix – rgb matrix has 3 subpixels vs pentile’s 2 subpixels allowing the display to be brighter and sharper while being more energy efficient … though the original note does have a higher ppi i believe the display on the note 2 is much better than the original

    • Anonymous

      2 steps foward, 1 step back

      it is still a better device overall

    • Rob

      The resolution is far, far more than adequate at normal viewing distances. PPI is not as big of a deal as apple makes it out to be, they use it as marketing as for the general public since bigger always seems better. The original iPad and iPad 2 had a PPI of about 130 and no one complained it was pixelated. I have the Note 10.1 and it looks fantastic even though it only is 1280×800 on a 10.1 inch screen giving it a PPI of 150, mainly because the colors are great and it has good brightness.

      With today’s processing efficiency and battery power I would say anything more than 720p on a 7″ and under device is over kill and anything more than 1080p on tablets 9-10inch is over kill. The higher the resolution the more processing power is used up to render the screen at the correct frame rate. Apple nearly doubled the battery in the new iPad and it still doesn’t last as long as the iPad 2 and takes longer to charge, the new iPad also runs hot because of the enormous amount of strain on the processor which in term uses up that enormous battery, All this for a high resolution that an everyday person isn’t even going to notice on a 9″ screen.

      The key to making a smart phones/tablet screen great now are brightness, sensitivity and color representation as the PPI is far more than adequate for crisp images.

  • Tony

    Where is the 2100 MHz frequency?

    • jon

      This was discussed in comments below. All that is shown in FCC filings is 1700. Since 2100 is paired with 1700 (one for upload link and the other for download link) it is just assumed there. You can’t have 1700 without 2100…

  • AJ

    Are thee any plans for HTC to build a Android Phablet? I like this concept, but prefer HTC and HTC Sense over Samsungs plastic and Touchwiz

  • Mo

    I have the Sensation since it came out. Have a family plan and out of contract on 4 phones.. Didnt want new contract on phones with similar cameras or a little faster speed…Had seen the first BULKY Note and wasnt impressed thought it was a miniature pad or something..
    BUT this note 2 is making me take a look. The LTE future is good . But still not sold yet is it worth a 2 year contract. Always something in the pipe line 6 months later and dont want to be regretting for the next year and a half.
    But boy am i considering it. Maybe change the wifes sg3 and buy one for her to see what its like and give sg3 to my 11 year old spoiled daughter? That way i can give the note 2 a test run before buying for me or not

  • Mo

    Oh and been with tmobile since 2000 ..GOING NO WHERE… WHOSE MY DADDY TMOBILE!!!!

  • Mo

    PRICE PRICE PRICE… I dont live in the outback either so does me fine on service.

  • ogopogo

    All well and good except for a 1300 mA battery?

    • jon

      I’m almost certain that is the power needed to power the device..a minimum; if you will. For instance my gnex lists a 3.7v 1000mA on the device, but the battery inside is actually 3.7v 1750mAh. The international version is packing a 3100mAh. So, I would expect the same in the USA version.

  • B-Mobile

    I have no more complaints, the SGIII is up for sale

  • zx6guy

    Any thoughts on whether LTE will be available on monthly 4g?

    • A question that is being ask far too early I’m afraid, we don’t know, but I can’t imagine it wouldn’t be.

  • steve

    they- tmobile is getting hammered in the lte coverage. tmobile currently doesnt have lte. 2013???? when in 2013??? tmobile owes it not only to themselves but more importantly to their customers to be specific. i.m in alabama and 4g lte covers very well here, however, it is not tmobile.it is BIG RED. whats the point in getting this phone and then waiting for tmobile to FINALLY move up to the BIG LEAGUES. i have been with them since 2003. unless they give specifics then this blowing sunshine is not working.

  • rschauby

    As much as love my GS3, I am still super upset about the inability to move apps to the SD Card. Until I receive proof that Samsung has fixed this problem I won’t be buying another Samsung phone.