T-Mobile store employee with concealed weapon shoots two would-be robbers

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Here’s a story for your Thursday.

A T-Mobile authorized retailer in Chicago was the target of an attempted robbery on Wednesday. I say “attempted robbery” because an employee of the store shot at the suspects after they pulled out guns of their own.

Neil Tadros, the store’s manager, says that the suspects walked into the store and pretended to be shopping for phones before pulling out guns. One employee went into the back to call for help, while a second pulled out his concealed weapon and fired at the robbers, hitting one in the groin and arm and the other in the abdomen and arm. The employee that fired his gun has a concealed carry license. Witnesses say that they don’t think that the robbers ever fired their weapons.

After being shot at by the store employee, the two robbers fled and ended up going to a nearby hospital for treatment. Police found them there and took them into custody.

“I think concealed carry is a great opportunity for managers, workers, employees to protect themselves in these cases,” said Neil Tadros, the T-Mobile store’s manager. “And our employee did a great job to protect themselves and the other employee.”

The good news here is that no innocent people were hurt and that the suspects were caught by police. Interestingly, the neighbors of the store say that this T-Mobile shop has been the target of several robberies lately, which could have prompted the employee to carry a concealed weapon at work, despite the “No Concealed Weapons” sign in the store’s window.

Thanks, Matt!

Source: ABC7

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  • kbiel

    Good for him and good for the store manager standing by his employee. It looks like the sign had zero effect on the bad guys, so why even put it up?

    • Alex L.

      that sign is there for the people that obtain a c&c license. it lets them know that they are not allowed to bring their weapon in the store even though they are legally allowed to carry. that sign is put up at the discretion of of the tennant or landlord.

      • kbiel

        As someone who possesses licenses from two states, I am well aware of what the sign is there for, though I will admit ignorance about the legal force of such a sign in IL. Apparently, you missed the point of my snark which is such things only affect the law abiding. Criminals who possess and carry weapons illegally will, obviously, disregard anything a property owner may do to discourage the possession of weapons on their property.

  • jmorris

    Sign had no effect because it’s not the official sign required by Illinois. Regardless, kudos to the employee; as well as the manager for sticking up for the employee and his right to carry. Hopefully the store doesn’t fire both of them, as many businesses do to those in similar circumstances.

    • davidofmidnight

      “Sign had no effect because it’s not the official sign required by Illinois.”

      Because criminals always read the warning signs before committing crimes.

      • jmorris

        It was sarcasm. But by Illinois law, that sign posted means nothing, it’s not the sign required by Illinois. Many businesses ran out and bought any “no gun” signs and threw them up without knowing the law. Many got the official sign and improperly posted them, such as on the second set doors inside the vestibule at grocery stores and restaurants, when they need to be visible from the outside when entering the building.

  • Acdc1a

    Proof criminals don’t pay attention to signs. Arm everyone I say. Good outcome.

  • IthinkIknowButIDK

    If I was a store owner, I would fire them both. This is why as a store owner, you have insurance. If you get robbed, someone reimburses you…otherwise, why am I paying that premium? However, if the employee had accidentally killed one of those 2 people, I’d get my pants sued off (and he might get sued anyway). Are we saying that the lives of 2 criminals are worth less than protecting your insured money/property? Hmm, very counter-intuitive. What if the criminals had fired back or fired first and someone innocent DID get hurt? Just give them what they want and let them leave peaceful. Not standing up for criminals in any way, but defending these actions (because the outcome wasn’t worse although it could’ve been) is just another way we dehumanize society, then we wonder why we have shooting incidents in the first place.

    • NoNameHere

      So, with your thinking, let suppose I have a flock of sheep, and I take care of them, but a wolf decides to come and eat them, I should let it have a feast whenever it wants to and not protect them? It is people like you and that way of thinking that empower criminals

      • IthinkIknowButIDK

        People like me empower criminals? Your analogy is flawed because you compare life (even an animal life) to phones and money. It’s also saying a wolf is like a human being. So if your analogy made any sense, it would mean that the criminals came in to kidnap other human beings (or phones came in to steal other phones). My comment is saying the animate (humans) should not be worth less than the inanimate (property). Maybe your lack of common sense is empowering criminals.

        • Billy Thronton

          OH SNAP! dem fightin words!

        • NoNameHere

          Putting aside the fact you completely missed my point, everyone has the right to defend their home and treasure, not mater is they horde sheep or sell phones. The point is no one has the right to come to your home or property and expect to hand over your shit without fighting back. But you probably live in a nice little bubble where nothing bad ever happens. Wake up and smell the coffee, you need it!!!!

      • Android_God

        FINALLY!!!!! SOMEONE FINALLY USED, “SHEEP”!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    • Steve R.

      The criminals don’t always leave peacefully; They will occasionally kill after they get what they want, anyway. Gangs sometimes “require” a killing as an initiating rite into the gang. The sad fact is that with all the violent crime out there, we HAVE to defend ourselves. The police can’t do it for us. If more of these brazen thugs get shot, maybe some of their madness would subside. Many an incarcerated violent criminal has said that they fear “concealed-carry” permit holders more than anything else, AND, we do still have a 2nd Amendment, or at least a badly shredded one.

      • morrisp

        “Badly shredded”? After D.C. vs. Heller(?) Seems like those who favor an expansionist reading of the 2nd Amd. have never had it so good…

        • kbiel

          Please elaborate on “expansionist reading”.

        • morrisp

          Expended to include the “individual rights” interp. of the 2nd Amd. embraced by the majority in Heller (against longstanding precedent)

        • Acdc1a

          Idiot can’t read a compound sentence. Back to 5th grade English, a compound sentence must make sense if you separate it.

          A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.

          So, going back to 5th grade English, a well regulated militia is necessary to the security of a free state AND the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed… Individual right clown!

        • Adam Guillette

          By “long-standing” you mean for a small percentage of time in our nation’s history, right? Even if that wasn’t the case, SLAVERY had longstanding precedent but I’m pretty freaking glad we got rid of that, too.

        • morrisp

          No — for history up to that point (2003). You can read about the history of 2nd Amendment jurisprudence; it’s pretty easily available.

        • Adam Guillette

          Umm, there weren’t ANY significant gun control laws until after the Civil War when racist southerners sought to restrict the right of freed slaves to own weapons. The notable rulings restricting individual rights occurred during the progressive era, most notable in the 1920’s. DC v. Heller overturned 80 years of awful precedent.

        • Android_God

          I love how the Second Amendment nuts think that they are constitutional scholars

        • Steve R.

          By “shredded”, I meant bureaucratic regulations limiting who will or won’t be “allowed” a conceal-carry permit. Here in Maryland, unless you’re politically connected, your chances of being issued one, regardless of a clean record and a genuine necessity, like carrying cash for a business, are very slim & pretty unlikely. And Baltimore currently has one of the highest murder/shooting rates in the country. Reasonable self-defense has all but been outlawed here.

        • morrisp

          Thanks for the thorough response. It still seems to me that Heller has actually expanded the accepted interp. of 2nd Amd. in this regard; though it’s true the decision was a narrow one. Anyway, I appreciate your civility (especially in light of other comments here).

        • Steve R.

          Thank you, morrisp, for your kindness & civility as well. These topics can often bring out the worst of passionate & overheated responses from people. I try not to let that happen, speaking for myself. I don’t know much about the Heller case, but I do wish that the government at large would focus more on the containment of violent criminals who by definition don’t obey ANY laws, instead of restricting the rights of those of us who try to. Peace to you & yours. Steve R.

    • jmorris

      It’s not about the money in the store, the employee was defending his life. Think the employee making $12 bucks an hour cares about the store’s money? And there are plenty of situations where victims comply with the robber and get shot. A few miles away from this store, a Comcast employee complied with a robber and still was shot after he emptied his pockets.

      • morrisp

        Yes, this seems different from (for example) the situation at a Home Depot in Michigan last year, where an employee ran into the parking lot and fired at shoplifters who were driving away… that was just stupid. In this case, the employee probably was acting in legitimate self-defense.

    • iCrap

      because no one EVER gets killed after handing over the money. i’m sure you would love to let someone rape you instead of fighting back. i mean it’s just rape right?

    • DILAW IDDAHLA

      U know lots of store employees/ merchants even if they cooperate with the thieves end up getting shot, right?

    • blokeinusa

      So what if the employee missed and happens to hit a customer/bystander instead? Or for that matter, a shootout ensues and everyone gets shot. The store and the employee would get more than their pants sued off

    • Iron Mike Sharpe

      The amount stolen is most likely going to be less than your deductible, so the business owner would be out the money in most cases.

    • SoffMouf

      “Are we saying that the lives of 2 criminals are worth less than protecting your insured money/property?”

      Yeah, kinda.

      • Nick Schaub

        I think they’re saying the lives of the 2 employess are worth more than the 2 criminals.

    • kbiel

      Yeah that insurance will be great comfort to the family of the employees slain while complying with armed criminals.

    • CB

      You forgot the part that this happened at South side of Chicago.

    • steveb944

      Had to be the Jets fan…
      You’ve obviously never been in that situation, you would think otherwise.
      We’re talking about criminals, yes they have rights, but most people, of you apparently, would value the life of an innocent over a criminal.
      We have shooting incidents because of criminals. Not the smart gun owner.

  • morrisp

    If the store had “been the target of several robberies lately,” I wonder the owner didn’t hire a full-time security guard. A Verizon store in a busy shopping area near my workplace has a guard who opens the door, checks out everyone who comes in, etc. (Not trying to “blame the victim” here; just seems like it may have been a prudent measure; and perhaps the store owner should have been doing more to protect employees.)

    • steveb944

      They didn’t specify ‘armed’ robberies, but obviously he just needs to keep this employee on hand.

  • The criminals are blaming a new feature by the gun manufacturers known as “SafetyOn.” Because it was enabled by default and they had to flip the switch to turn it off, their violence was being throttled, costing them their hard-earned HD (high death) score. They’re currently filing a complaint with the FCC and DOJ to look into the legality of SafetyOn, believing it to be in violation of Firearm Neutrality laws.

    • DILAW IDDAHLA

      BingeOn was added to existing lines where when you buy a pistol, the safety is set on when you get it

    • Lee Hughes

      Lol! That’s funny.

    • John Doe

      Omg that is hilarious…LOOOOOOOL /s

    • Marcelo_L

      Now this is what this thread needed. REAL humor.

      Well done, Sir. Well done.

  • Hoss Hero

    Wow — we have the best network… and the best sharp-shooters this side of Laramie. Just so all of you conspiracy theorists have the real truth, corporate sent the thugs to that location.
    Any brand-name recognition is good recognition in our book. Blood on the LG’s. Brain matter on the blue-tooths. It’s all good stuff.

    So clean those barrels — load up on that ammo — and we are thinking… pink holsters will really drive home that T-Mo message. Giddyup !

    • Android_God

      Hahaha

    • SirStephenH

      Now if they could only get them to bleed magenta…

    • BillyThorton

      lol that was funny

  • ABSOLUTELY LOVE IT !!! God bless the USA and our founding fathers for including a right that is given to us by GOD himself.. The right to self preservation and the preservation of land and family.. You communists who do not believe in this right and whom are trying to destroy our great nation by challenging the constitution can get out! we do not want anti Americans !! you feel safe waiting 10 minutes for the police to arrive? you want to take a chance and hope the thieves leave and spare your lives? NO THANK YOU.!!! In My eyes the criminals signed their own warrants when they decided to commit a criminal offense.. I choose to defend my self ! the 2nd amendment is also there to preserve all the rest of the amendments and keep the power in the peoples hands where it belongs !

    • morrisp

      Sorry to sound like a “communist,” but the 2nd Amendment was actually put there for the opposite reason: to make sure the gov’t (via state”militias”) could put down uprisings by the “people” (see http://www.alternet.org/news-amp-politics/right-wings-fake-history-second-amendment).

      • Adam Guillette

        You’re adorable. Clearly you’ve never read the Federalist papers.

        • morrisp

          Putting aside your condescension — there’s plenty of commentary/analysis on the Federalist papers around this specific issue.

        • Adam Guillette

          Even forgetting that your interpretation of the 2nd amendment is desperate, perhaps you forget that 1.) the constitution doesn’t even permit a standing army and 2.) militias were run by private individuals, NOT the federal government, so the feds could hardly “call up the militia” to put down an uprising.

        • morrisp

          You are correct that militias were not run by the Federal gov’t — they were organized by the states

    • SirStephenH

      So the right to bear arms in order to maintain an ORGANIZED MILITIA is a god given right now?
      LMFAO!!!

      • living free is not a god given right ? any goverment or person trying to take that from me or my loved ones by force.. WILL BE MET BY FORCE

        • Android_God

          Really? Let me know how you fare going up against a tank and a 50 Cal

        • id rather die resisting a tyrant, than live under one… you are exactly part of the reason why the USA is becoming soft and losing respect world wide

        • BillyThorton

          you know god and his son jesus are pacifists right? turn the other cheek no matter if anyone tries to hurt u or “infringe” on your rights. don’t get things twisted in your head…the rules of men are different from the rules of god. you are not following sacred teachings espousing any kind of violence for any kind of reason heathen!

        • remember eye for an eye tooth for tooth? i like the old testament, not the revamped PC version… Would you like me to say rule of nature? kill or be killed? work for you ?

        • Adam Guillette

          You’re trying to use religion to push your political beliefs on others? Peddle that elsewhere, pal.

      • Adam Guillette

        It has been since 1787, actually.

    • Benbeb

      The streets are flooded with guns its not the wild west anymore

      • bad guys will have them regardless

      • steveb944

        It wasn’t the Wild West way back then either. You’re off by a few years on when this right was given.

    • eanfoso

      I am very anti America yet I love guns. Look at ISIS for instance, the two can coexist.

      • steveb944

        Anti America? I don’t know what you’re waiting for to leave. And that’s the worst example you can come up with.

        • eanfoso

          It’s actually pretty accurate, just because you aren’t American or pro America doesn’t mean you are not going to like guns. I am waiting for my degree, need to rack up more student debt so when I leave someone else can pay my studies.

        • steveb944

          I meant your ISIS example. You must be great at parties with your atrocious mindset. To each his own.

        • eanfoso

          My friends actually love me at parties! Then again most of my friends are Muslim lol

  • 21stNow

    It flows from the same river of thought that thinks that $1.5 billion was too much for one person to win in the lottery.

  • blokeinusa

    the fact he got hit in the groin probably means he wasn’t really aiming…playing call of duty isn’t practice…or better yet, how many rounds did he shoot?

    • charlieboy808

      So you mean to say that it’s easy to hit specific locations on the body in the heat of a crazy situation? Let’s look at it this way, did anyone else get hurt? Nope. Did he hit his intended targets? Yes. How many rounds did he shoot? Does that really matter? Nope.

      • exactly.. aiming center mass is all you can do.. maintaining composure is the hardest.. to me he did just that.. if he had hit anything else the bias anti american/gun media would have been sure to mention it.. shit even if he had injured someone, the media would have overshadowed the good intentions with OMG he almost killed a by stander

      • blokeinusa

        Have a higher chance of hitting the chest than the groin, so hitting the groin in a single shot is likely a low probability. However if you shoot a hundred rounds, then your likely to hit something. Likely first shot hit the arm, reaimed, second or third shot hit him in the groin.

        • charlieboy808

          So what you’re saying is that he was aiming and you were wrong in your previous statement? I’m confused here. Also, I’m pretty sure you can’t conceal carry comfortably 100 rounds while working. Most likely, he probably only had around 8-12 bullets. Considering he hit them four times and not anyone else is pretty good aim in the heat of the moment.

    • Barnassey

      Saying its easy to hit specific places shows that you are not a gun owner. Shooting anything except the torso is very difficult to do.

      • blokeinusa

        Nope but I’ve shot rifles

      • wicketr

        Reminds me of the time i got in a disagreement with a guy on a story where the victim had a bullet finally pop out his leg after two years. And this guy was arguing that it was dangerous because the bullet could explode at any time. smh.

    • SurvivingSunnyvale

      Yeah, hitting a MOVING target is always easy.

    • kbiel

      Playing call of duty isn’t experience and doesn’t qualify you to comment on things that happen in the heat of the moment. If you have ever been to a class or instructed by an experienced shooter, you would know that aiming for center mass is the preferred method for stopping an attack. If you have been to a range and tried to rapid fire or fire under pressure, you would know that bringing the gun to bear on the target or re-acquiring the target after a shot is difficult to do rapidly. That is another reason that you aim for center mass, because if you let off a little early it is still likely to hit somewhere on the body and, hopefully, stop the attack.

      • blokeinusa

        I’ve shot M16’s at 100 yards ironsighted

  • charlieboy808

    I knew I’d be facepalm-ing when I came to the comments section. Here’s the gist of it in my mind. If you feel that your life is in danger, then you have every right to defend yourself. Curbing gun violence isn’t going to be solved by a bunch of people crying out for a ban on the sale of guns. Did you know that there’s a ban on the sale of Meth, Cocaine, Heroin, and a bunch of other illegal drugs? Stop hiding behind the law. Sure it’s there to protect you, but it’s also only a bunch of words on piece of paper that we agreed on is the right thing to do. People going around trying to rob people at gun point is obviously the wrong thing to do. It’s also obvious that those people don’t give two shits about the law. So we make it a law that guns are illegal in this country. If no one can buy a guy, then no one will have them, right? I refer you back up to my previous statement, “Did you know there’s a ban on the sale of drugs?”

    I don’t have a gun and never have never fired one. Not that I don’t want to, just don’t have the time to try it out. Does that mean I’m unarmed? Fuck no. I carry a knife on me at all times. Want to talk about concealed carry? It’s pretty easy to stick a knife in your pocket. I have no problem stabbing a mother fucker threatening my life.

    To all the other people saying that they should have let them take what they wanted and let insurance handle the rest. Have you not been paying attention lately? There are have been a ton of people who have taken it upon themselves to just shoot everyone and everything in sight. I for one am not going to wait for someone to take my life because I thought, “Maybe if i just give them what they want they’ll leave peacefully.” I don’t know about your values, but I’m not going to die because I was being a little bitch.

    • thats the whole problem.. Most of the USA is becoming one big twat

    • J-Dub

      there you go, well said, Charlie. The other problem with the “insurance argument” is these incidents become a part of pricing structure. I know this from working with their actuaries. As the risk increases, prices increase and inflation increases. Security costs increase, government increases, bloat increases — the list goes on.

  • eanfoso

    We need a for real death note.

  • SirStephenH

    “Interestingly, the neighbors of the store say that this T-Mobile shop has been the target of several robberies lately, which could have prompted the employee to carry a concealed weapon at work, despite the “No Concealed Weapons” sign in the store’s window.”

    Funny how the real story is buried at the very end of the article. The employee carried a weapon to work against store policy.

    Good thing the store wasn’t filled with customers or Rambo here might have hit more than just the would be robbers.

    • that is all part of analyzing the situation… if you or a loved one had been in that store with the bad guy waving the gun, you might feel different

      • Buster Nutwell

        If a bad guy is waiving a gun, I would pray to anything holy that nobody escalates the situation.

        • fentonr

          Ever been robbed at gun point? Might feel differently if you have.

      • Android_God

        It’s not as easy as you’re making it seem and this isn’t a Hollywood movie.

    • fentonr

      It isn’t necessarily against store policy just because it’s posted. I’ve worked at stores that posted no concealed weapons for liability reasons but management was okay with, and even encouraged in some cases, employees to bring personal firearms if they had a permit to carry concealed. I’m not saying that was the case here, just saying that it could be.

    • Ontwowheels

      “Rambo”? The employee has a licence to carry a concealed weapon. I do not know what the requirements are in Illinois but in North Carolina, to receive the same licence you are instructed on the use of deadly force. It’s great that “Rambo” did not injure any incident bystanders. But even if he did, blame would still need to be placed on the two who were committing armed robbery.

    • Ryan Neely

      The employees and customers have different rules. Do you want all the people coming in to have access to the storage room too?

  • eanfoso

    If this had taken place in Texas the employee could have just killed the human scum and everything would be okay.

    • Android_God

      You think killing someone is that easy? Tell that to the families of the three police officers who committed suicide after the infamous North Hollywood Bank shootout

      • eanfoso

        Yes I do, mainly because it is self defense, I was close of killing someone, but ran out of time. I am definitely colder, even seen human corpses agonizing and a woman stretching her arm out half dead when someone pushed a towel and finished her, the corpses were children, really sad and I grew up with murders around me, in 2014 alone from October to December, 6 people close to me died, 2 of them from supposed gun incidents. So yes killing can be done especially on human scum, I have no pity for parasites of society.

        • Buster Nutwell

          Your definition of human scum might be different than other peoples. Does not mean you have the right to take someone else’s life, but I am glad it comes so easy to you. Congrats!

        • eanfoso

          I sure thank you!

      • Ryan Neely

        Suicide is a sign of mental illness. It isn’t natural, and it’s never the direct result of an outside cause.

  • Buster Nutwell

    I know many will disagree in this country of weapons, but I think the employee put everyone at risk by pulling his gun out and beginning to shoot, not to mention he was alone against two people with guns. Who knows how they would react. This could easily have ended in several fatalities. I am glad it did not.

    • fentonr

      Well, another argument could be made that the robbers put everyone at risk when they came into the store to rob it with a weapon.

      • NoNameHere

        Its always the argument of justifying does that break the law but demonizing those that abide by it.

        • Guest

          No. It’s the argument of making a “pretty bad” situation a terrible situation. Statistics prove that robberies don’t end in murder a vast majority of the time. Of those that do, a lot of times it is because some idiot thinks that money/their car/phones are worth a shoot out and risking their lives. This turned out well. He’s lucky.

        • Ordeith

          The terrible situations get created when the likelihood of the robber being the only armed person on site is increased.

        • Guest

          So we’re just straight up ignoring the scientific community’s findings that the presence of a gun has no discernible, beneficial effect on the outcome of crime then? Cool. I never liked math anyway.

        • Ordeith

          If we rightly ignore that “information” it wouldn’t be the scientific community we would be ignoring. It seems you don’t like psychology much, either.

    • steveb944

      He was a smart gun owner, he assessed the situation and from the given result you can tell he knew what to do. He got off 3 shots while the amateurs got none.

    • Adam Guillette

      The “no concealed weapons” policy put people at risk. Criminals prefer unarmed victims and they’re not likely to adhere to your policy.

  • Diver Dan

    So what’s the corporate message here? T-Mobile employees, in the stores, are now going to be packing heat. So the next time I have a problem with my SIM card, and go to a T-mobile store, I have to worry about getting caught in the crossfire? I think that T-mobile needs to make it clear what stores have armed employees and which ones do not. Or if all their stores have armed employees they need to make this public knowledge. I would think that the loss of a few stolen phones would be a lot less then what a wrongful death law suite would cost.

    • Packing Heat…

      Yes…but who can enjoy the monies from a law suit if you are fatally wounded. So, I think the employee did the Right thing in protecting himself, first and the others.

    • T

      Actually, these are not T-Mobile employees. They are employees of the authorized retailer.

    • steveb944

      “I think that T-mobile needs to make it clear what stores have armed employees and which ones do not. Or if all their stores have armed employees they need to make this public knowledge.”

      As another said, these aren’t T-Mobile employees.

      Thanks for making me laugh. A private entity doesn’t need to disclose that to you, nor require it from their employees if said item is already prohibited.

      These are CONCEALED weapons permits, people all around you are armed, you just don’t know it. And good luck having everyone notify you.

  • dontknowyet

    I used to work for a T-Mobile preferred retailer and from new hire in boarding weapons are not allowed on the property, meetings or any events. They have policy’s that prohibits this.
    But I’m glad no one got hurt.

    • fentonr

      TPR locations are different than authorized dealers. At an authorized dealer this would have been up to the store management.

      • Guest

        I’m pretty sure that even TPR locations would fall under T-Mobile’s workplace violence policies, though I’m not 100% certain.

        • fentonr

          TPR would I believe(although in reality it isn’t really up to T-Mobile) but not authorized dealers. Dontknowyet said that he worked for a TPR store and the store in the story is an authorized dealer.

        • dontknowyet

          Yes I worked at a TPR location and we mirrored the corporate stores to a t. You couldn’t even tell the difference from the customer view. Thanks for educating me on the difference

        • Guest

          Ah. I’ve confused myself. We don’t have “authorized dealers” in my area so I wasn’t aware there was a difference beyond label.

        • fentonr

          Yeah, Verizon uses authorized dealers a ton but T-Mobile uses mostly TPR or corporate locations. TPR locations are basically the same as corporate locations they’re just owned by a third party. All inventory, computers and fixtures belong to T-Mobile and T-Mobile security monitors locations. Same systems and you can buy something from a TPR location and return it at a corporate location. Authorized dealers, on the other hand, buy their inventory from T-Mobile (both phones and accessories) and resell them at a markup. They use different systems and you cannot buy something from an authorized dealer and return it at a TPR or corporate location.

  • Nick Schaub

    I see a lot of what IFs, but lets focus on what IS. Two innocent employees went home safely to their families and two armed criminals are off the streets. I see a win-win.

    • NoNameHere

      Amen!

    • bingo

    • Guest

      You can’t just ignore all of the possibilities because this one incident had a favorable outcome. That’s incredibly irresponsible and woefully shortsighted. It’s like saying that it’s totally okay that I did 75MPH in a 25MPH school zone because “Hey, I got to work on time and no kids died… Win-win!”

      • Nick Schaub

        I tend to stay grounded in reality and not go off into hypothetical possibilities. And for the record I did not say its ok to go 75 in a school zone.

  • Ryan Neely

    It’s a little sad that people here are trying to twist this positive story into an argument for gun control. The reason this ended well was because that employee was armed!

    • Guest

      What would you say if the employee had drawn his weapon and caused one of the robbers to shoot him? A robbery where T-Mobile loses a few hundred turns into a murder where a man loses his life. Stop acting like you know how every incident is going to turn out. It’s immature and short-sighted. There’s a reason T-Mobile doesn’t allow guns, and it isn’t because they’re liberal gun-hating hippies. It’s because common sense dictates that life is worth more than money, and robberies don’t turn into murders with employees who comply.
      Grow up.

      • Ryan Neely

        I think it’s wrong to let criminals push innocent people around like that. Would you rather that employee be defenseless? Are robbers known for checking if the employees are concealed carrying?

        • NapoPeb

          You’re an idiot, Ryan.

        • Ryan Neely

          And you’re a poopy liver eater.

        • Guest

          So you’d rather every robbery turn into a scene from “wild west” style movies, where everyone just starts firing at one another? You confuse “no gun” with “defenseless.” Intelligence IS a defense. Common sense IS a defense. Having been in a robbery, I know them to be fairly straightforward events. Person “A” wants money, person “B” gives them money, and Person “A” then leaves. It’s frightening at first, but you can’t escape the fact that they’re there for money, not for blood. How can you tell the difference? They tell you, rather than just opening fire. This guy was wrong. He unnecessarily escalated a robbery to a life threatening situation. Period. He should be extraordinarily grateful that it ended well.

        • Ryan Neely

          Yes, let’s just assume that these poor peaceful robbers are just reluctantly ruining people’s lives.

        • Guest

          Oh, so now we’re just putting words into people’s mouths. You do realize all of this is written, right? Can you show me where I said anything about them being peaceful? Can you show me where I said they were reluctant? Would you like to have an intelligent debate about the responsibilities this employee has to the safety of his coworkers, of just continue to evade and make sarcastic remarks? Just curious. Don’t really care either way.

        • Ryan Neely

          It’s my interpretation, dummy. I didn’t put quotes around it, kind’ve like the same way your mother didn’t put her arms around you. And about the “intelligent debate”, I’d need someone intelligent to debate with.

        • 21stNow

          Surely, you realize that all robberies don’t have the same ending that yours did.

        • Ron

          You are quite correct, not all of them do. But they could. The liberals here want to talk about possibilities, then lets talk about them. Its possible that every single robbery in this nation could end up just the way this one did. What do you think that would tell would-be robbers? How long do you think they would continue to remain engaged is what is well known to be a hazardous profession? How long before we run out of robbers?

          Every robbery, no exceptions, “could” end up the same way this one
          did. Would that be a bad thing? Not in my opinion. It would send the smarter ones back into the labor pool so that they can actually become
          viable members of society rather than a part of the blight that criminals are in our society. The “smart” ones will get out of the business, that
          leaves just the dumb ones and the mentally unbalanced to deal with. A
          99.9% drop in crime, sounds like a good plan to me.

      • fentonr

        See, the reason arguments like yours are stupid is not because your argument is invalid but because the people you’re arguing with think the same thing about your stance as you do theirs. You too, should grow up.

        • Guest

          Except my arguments are firmly based in statistical theory- but point taken.

        • NoNameHere

          Statistical Theory will help a lot in those situations. “Yes, base on statistics and averages, I should not be shot dead by the guy pointing a gun at me, umm I should be ok then, happy times”

        • Guest

          I don’t really follow your point. I think maybe you’re being sarcastic, but it doesn’t really come off with the “zing” you were looking for.

        • Ryan Neely

          Seems to be pretty easy to read. Maybe you should see a doctor.

        • Marcelo_L

          Again….cite references or #FAIL.

        • Ryan Neely

          Yes, clearly you’re right and everyone else is just making things up. We’re all just colluding to make you look arrogant and delusional, when you really know everything.

        • Guest

          Why is it that some people always fall back to the “You just think you’re smarter than everyone” argument? Either counter with an intelligent counter, or don’t bother to reply at all.

        • Ryan Neely

          Then you should stop replying too. HOW DARE SOMEONE REPLY TO MY SACRED POSTS!

        • Marcelo_L

          Cite references, or #FAIL.

          Just calling it out, dude…..either cite, or move along.

      • none of your business

        I am to a employee and i think your an idiot. For you to say he should be fired for protecting his store is just plain stupidity. I understand in call centets and other offices because they is no reason to carry a gun because of the security. A store is an open arena for robberies and shootings . There have been 111 shootings in chicago area in 2016 already and 17 deaths. Crooks do not go by rules and will kill someone just because they can id them
        Crawl back in your cubicle and grow a pair.

        • Ordeith

          > I am to a employee and i think your an idiot.

          LOL, comedy gold right there. :)

  • AJ2

    Republican/NRA talking point in 3.2.1….
    Glad it turned out in this case but we’re gonna get into a society where everyone just devices to take the law into their own hands like the guys in Oregon. I hope we don’t have tragedies or anarchy in the future. With the people I see at Trump rallies, screaming and spitting and hitting people, what kind of society are we going to have.
    But glad it turned out ok here but everyone’s with a gun… Don’t take someone’s parking space, cut in line at the grocery or talk during a movie

  • Zbum

    This is the new normal…..you want protection… arm yourself….can’t rely on cops looking over there shoulders hesitating… because of cry baby liberal bosses.

    • Adam

      Only in Chicago, where this story takes place. In the rest of the country, crime is down.

      • dont forget to mention.. where there is the most gun control, there is the highest crime rates.. chicago, nyc, california etc.. meanwhile in states where there is legal constitutional carry, crime is the lowest… lets be fair

        • Adam

          Don’t confuse correlation with causation. The cause is proximity to hunting areas, not crime.

        • fro

          It’s because those rules were enacted AFTER the crime rates became so high because of lack of regulation.

        • Guest

          Don’t do that. Don’t be logical.

        • jarhead1982

          So sad, you and no other communist troll can provide proof of a gun ban paradise implementing strict gun control and reducing violence, 205 other countries to be exact, and you cant provide one single example from the date of implementation to todays date of a reduction in violence, end of story…..

        • Rod

          Where’s the source bro?

        • morrisp

          I don’t know about your “crime rates” stats, though I do know that many of the guns used in crimes in places like Chicago and NYC are obtained in neighboring states with more permissive gun laws (or down the I-95 corridor, in the case of NYC) — deaths by “out-of-state” guns is a big issue in those cities.

          Meanwhile, the fact is that gun deaths (from all causes, including accidents etc.) are significantly higher in states with more permissive gun ownership laws. I can cite a source if you like (a link may be blocked if include it here, but I can tell you how to easily find it).

        • NoNameHere

          great, lets bundle all causes of death in to one big statistic. Why don’t you include colon cancer while you are it. WOW..

        • morrisp

          Because guns don’t cause colon cancer. They do cause deaths via many other means.

        • jarhead1982

          Post the video of a gun loading aiming and pulling its own trigger tinkerbell

        • jarhead1982

          More proven lies

        • GinaDee

          There are “stricter,” gun laws in the city of Chicago itself but not the rest of Illinois. Unless there is some wall around Chicago that blocks other gun toting state dwellers into the city your argument doesn’t hold any water.

          It also doesn’t help when so called: “good law abiding citizens,” sell firearms at yard sales or Craigslist,” to people they don’t know

          That’s one of the problem with the argument citing certain local gun control laws being ineffective. There is weak to no enforcement and cities and states make up their own laws that don’t apply everywhere. In order for any law to be effective it has to be applied from the federal level AND enforced. We simply don’t have the laws in place nor do we have the resources available to do both.

          And yes I’m a proud gun owner. I’ve brought my share of stuff from Arizona into California w/o any hassle.

          Here’s my opinion on the subject as a gun owner: I would never support any laws that strip me of my right to use a firearm but I do support modern ideas in order to make sure that guns don’t get into the wrong hands. As a responsible gun owner I do support expanded background checks, forced registration linking equipment to owners and changes to medical insurance making mental healthcare services cheaper and more widespread.

          I don’t think there is a single answer to fix gun violence in America. Simply taking guns away obviously wouldn’t help but just throwing up your hands in pure, unadulterated IGNORANCE (and let’s call it for what it is) and doing absolutely nothing is the wrong way.

          The morons on both sides of the argument need to filter facts from the many myths being thrown out there (and there are tons of them) and come together amicably.

        • jarhead1982

          You mean UBC that don’t stop criminals ….ROTFLMFAO you haven’t a fkkn clue

        • C.

          Meanwhile most colleges are gun-free zones and research demonstrates conclusively that students on the campuses
          of post-secondary institutions are significantly safer than both their off-campus counter- parts and the nation
          as a whole. So lets be fair…

        • jarhead1982

          What research, ooh that’s right wrecktumuss pulless outuss is std anti gun data research

        • C.

          gibberish, that’s an argument

        • jarhead1982

          Truth hurts, as painful as when anti gun addicts pull a barrel cactus outta their butts and claim its facts and data, their problem

      • Zbum

        Tell that to the store MGR at this store….and the families of the 14 killed in San Bernardino.

        • Adam

          If you look past the trees, you should be able to see the forest.

        • Zbum

          If you look past Mayberry R.F.D……you’ll see reality.

        • jarhead1982

          Killed by terrorists who got guns even with strict gun control, typikal

  • guest

    As a T-Mobile employee, I can say that if I were the other employee I would have been livid that this dude pulled a gun. I would have been firmly for his being fired. I’ve been in robberies. You give them what they want, they leave. It’s actually all pretty easy. You pull a gun, you put my life at risk because you think you’re a hero.
    This hero complex will destroy us all.

    • Prode

      If this were a T-Mobile Corp store that employee would be let go because he had a gun in the store. This only happen because the employee was at a non corp store.

    • Guest

      You are an idiot! I’ve Had my employees get robbed And do what you said but they were still hurt after all phones were taken.

      You are the typical Obama voter and why this country has such issues.

  • Marcelo_L

    Uh Alex, I know that trashing the 2nd ammendment is all the rage right now. But unless you were being sarcastic in your quip there at the end; I’m pretty sure that “No concealed weapons” plastered on the door is directed at folks coming into the store who DON’T ALREADY WORK THERE. Especially if the person that works there is the manager.
    (Sorry for the CAPS, but apparently some silly quips need to be blatantly called out.)

    And +Ryan Neely , the only reason this bit of news twisted out of control is because of the quip at the end of the article (way to go Alex). If this had been some other store that was owned by a minority family (I’m a minority, so don’t get me started) that had armed itself to protect it’s place of business, we wouldn’t be having this argument right now.

    And “Guest”, “guest” …..step out from the shadows and post with a name like the rest of people having an intelligent discussion.

    +AJ2: I hear you. I couldn’t agree more. Glad this turned out ok, but I’ve seen those “Hey, you took my parking space” people out there. Then again, there are people who will gun their engine and cut you off into a parking space as well.

    • Android_God

      “trashing the 2nd ammendment is all the rage right now” Please just stop with this nonsense. YOU ARE AWARE that it’s an, “ammendment” right? I agree with Jim Jeffries…some of you need a thesaurus more than you need a gun.

      • Marcelo_L

        What? Because it’s an ammendment you think it’s of lesser importance.

        You’ve HAVE heard of the “Bill of Rights”. It’s called the first 10 ammendments. Why, because we couldn’t get it all on the first try. Which is why it took a Civil War and the 15th ammendment to abolish something anyone in their right mind knew was wrong.

        Or, oh no, the 21st which repealed the 18th (Prohibition). Don’t go waving around the “it’s an ammendment” argument. It’s not only lame it’s baseless. If you want to go back to “it’s just an ammendment”. Then lets roll back the 21st, the 15th, or the 19th. Yeah, let’s tell women they’re not “as much of citizens” as men are. Riiiiiiight.

        Get real…..the 2nd ammendment is NO LESS important than any of the others. Go be silly somewhere else.

        • Android_God

          DAMN!!!! You are GOOD! I need a tissue after that!

        • Marcelo_L

          Sarcasm isn’t going to earn you any points here. At least not from anyone trying to make a point. If you want to be “cute”, then fine, just don’t expect sympathy.

    • Guest

      I’m an employee, that is why I choose not to share my name. I don’t see why I can’t post anonymously and still make a valid point. But thank you for your feedback. :)

      • Marcelo_L

        Point taken, I can respect that. That being said, there are enough folks posting on here as “guest” who do so for no other reason than trolling or flamebaiting with no intention of actually carrying on an intelligent conversation. In the absence of your clarifying statement of current employment, it left the statements open to interpretation.

  • Gerald Knapp

    Wait, just wait 1 minute now, those two people did not obey the sign deeming no concealed weapons! The audacity of those criminals to not follow the law…or sign! There needs to be more laws and signs telling criminals what not to do since they are so obedient!

  • GinaDee

    T-Mobile stores seemed to get robbed by armed gunmen more than any other carrier. Probably the Metro PCS converts

    • Ryan Neely

      Metro PCS stores are scary.

  • Android_God

    BOO HOO HOO please stop talking mean about the 2nd amendment. My delicate sensibilities can’t handle this!!

    • Android_God
    • donnybee

      I know huh! There should have been like a rule or something to stop those robbers..

  • Glich

    Holy crap They did’t fire the guy.. Most stores whould can him for violating policy to roll over on robbery’s

    • Marcelo_L

      Did you just gloss over the part that this wasn’t a T-Mobile-owned store, or did you just infer that from way Alex had written the article?

    • ontwowheels

      They should promote they guy, he very well could have saved everyone’s life in that store.

    • Dominimmiv

      In California he would have been arrested if there is any surveillance video showing he was not threatened.

      • He’ll be fired soon enough. What he did was insane. As a Police Officer, he did the worst possible thing.

        I also bet he will get charged with ADW at the very least as well. Then there is the Two Civil suits he is facing, as he has no immunity.

  • YABD

    Tmobile stores should implement the bank entrance procedure.

    • illstplaya .

      And what would that be? Going into a bank is the same as going into a regular store.

      • 21stNow

        Some banks ask customers to remove face obstructing items (sunglasses, hoodies, etc.) before entering the bank. Not that I think that the criminals would have cared.

      • YABD

        If you carry a weapon or some metal like a knife, you won’t be able to get in the store. And that means an even fight.

  • Guest 2

    I don’t understand what this has to do with Binge Throttle.

    • Wezi427

      Nice attempt at humor.

  • Let’s get rid of all laws banning public nudity since criminals don’t follow laws.

  • An employee…

    I declare…the world is coming to an end, an employee protecting himself and others! It is a un-carrier move, LOL, LOL.

  • ontwoweels

    I love it. Just imagine the surprised looks on the robbers faces when they started getting shot at. TOO FUNNY, do we have any video footage from the store? Posted on “Robberies Gone Horribly Wrong” maybe?

  • Mark Kendrick

    I don’t think more people carrying is the answer but this gentleman appears to know what he’s doing. He was able to get 4 shots with 4 hits and the robbers didn’t even fire a shot. Hell they even pulled their guns first.

  • FILA

    I hope they dont fire the employee, although they probably will at some point because of the store rule. People stop doing bad things, bad things wont happen. I have a concealed carry, and Id do the same thing. Great job

  • AtomicWedgie

    Bravo my fellow armed brothers and sisters, bravo.

  • matt

    years of sending urls to tmonews finally pays off

  • Allen Alberto Enriquez

    Great work T-Mobile Magenta Team! Because of this today I feel safe that I will be protected bless the armed worker’s I hope to see a lot more like him! I too hope doesn’t not get fired. If anything he should be promoted!

  • donnybee

    But wait, I thought rules against weapons were supposed to stop gun crimes..

    Unless, WAIT A SECOND! I get it now..a crime is when a rule is broken! That must mean a criminal won’t care if their (likely already illegal) guns are again illegal.

    Common sense comes in with the bitch slap!

    • vrm

      The tightening of the rules would have likely prevented the criminals from acquiring guns. The store employee had a LICENSE to carry concealed weapons so (s)he clearly went through the paper work and the process.

      You don’t understand gun control advocates because they haven’t been clear in articulating their mind set and the gun runners have taken advantage and seeded the market with paranoia and FUD.

      I believe in gun control but I do not see that as taking away everybody’s guns. If it is implemented correctly, it would minimize the incidence of WRONG people acquiring guns. It is simple, REALLY.

      • Matt

        Most all guns used in such crimes were stolen. Not bought at gun shows.

        Burglar steals pistols, sells them to his drug dealer. The drug dealer sells them to this criminal. The criminal with the stolen gun then breaks at least 5 laws when they go in and rob someone. Not one of those many laws slow down the criminal. Example, it’s illegal to rob someone, no matter the tool of intimidation.

        BTW, 90% of gun purchases at gun shows DO have a background check.
        Also, it is not possible to “buy a gun over the internet” without a background check.

      • BIZC8

        You fail to realize that criminals don’t get their guns through the controls that are in place. There is and always will be a black market. What’s your definition of “tightening”? Enforcing the laws that are already on the books or creating new bogus laws to give people a false perception of security?

        • really?

          why do we even have any laws to begin with then?

        • BIZC8

          Laws exist as a means of restraint to the criminal element of every natural man. No law, present or future will ever eliminate crime or stop criminals.

        • jarhead1982

          Aw typikal anarchist going WAAAH WE WONT ENFORCE THE EXISTING LAWS, AND NOW YOURE UPSET WE WANT MORE LAWS THAT WONT BE ENFORCED EITHER, WAAAAAH DATS NOT FWAIR, their fixed your rant for you…..

        • BIZC8

          So they can be followed by LAW-ABIDING citizens. Criminals choose to exclude themselves from that group. Gun bans and gun free zones only benefit the criminals by giving them the upper hand over society in general. Remember, CRIME IS A CHOICE. Self-defense is both a choice and a right.

    • VicRooLoo

      Their guns aren’t illegal because they were bought from gun shows where there aren’t background checks

      • TMOTECH

        That is not true. Try buying a gun at a gun show one time before you repeat what politicians try to use as a wedge issue.

      • jarhead1982

        Proven lies

    • Ordeith

      Criminals like gun laws – they disarm the victims.

  • 21stNow

    But, it’s very wide unfortunately.

  • I’m friend of a friend

    Talking about unncarrier

  • C.

    Am I the only one who wouldn’t want someone taking vigilante justice into their hands while I’m around. People could have been hurt, then who would be accountable? Where did he fire these bullets? Where did they go? He should be fired. We aren’t even supposed to chase criminals out of the store…

    • BIZC8

      Are you being serious right now?? Didn’t the article specifically say only the bad guys got hit? Or is your case based on the assumption of what “could have” happened? Will you not ever defend yourself or others under any circumstances? Suit yourself buddy!

      • Isaiah Davenport

        The problem is that was a reckless move by the store employee. Let’s not forget the criminals were armed. Let’s say if those criminals decided to fire back. In the process of the shoot out between the reckless store employee and the robbers lets say a customer or maybe even an employee died from a gunshot wound. Due to a reckless employee deciding to pull his gun instead of cooperating and then calling the police. That employees actions put all of the employees and customers lives at risk.

        • BIZC8

          You’re comfortably imprisoned in a victim mentality. You’d rather trust the bad guys will be merciful to you if you cooperate regardless of the numerous other cases proving the contrary. You feel comfortable putting your faith on criminals. I, and a whole lot of other people on the other hand, do not. Too many ‘cooperative’ victims are killed simply because they can ‘identify’ the perpetrator. I refuse to be one of those.

          By the way, the only reckless people in that store were the criminals. The employee, as far as I’m concerned, is a hero.

        • Isaiah Davenport

          No I am not. I would preferee not to get shot because my idiot Co worker thought it was a good idea to get in a shoot out with the bad guys. By the way The only reckless person was the employee putting his fellow co workers in danger by thinking it was a good idea to shoot at bad guys that were armed thank god the criminals did not return fire.

        • BIZC8

          Where do you draw your conclusions that the employee had no training? I’d say he has had decent training considering all his bullets hit the mark.

        • Isaiah Davenport

          He is not a police officer and or security guard that has training on when to take action and what level of force is needed. Their training also takes into account any possible collateral damage like co worker and or customers. We do not need any more vigilantes like George Zimmerman playing wannabee cop in stores or on the streets.

        • BIZC8

          s far as I know, one must undergo training in use of deadly force and weapon qualification to get a concealed carry permit (which he did). That is the very reason he is legally allowed to take action.

          I believe you will stick to your position until YOUR life gets saved by someone who is armed. Until then, you only want the criminals having the upper hand while all of us are unarmed and defenseless. I beg to differ my friend.

          One more thing, you don’t know if this employee is an ex-cop, ex-military, or an avid self-defense aficionado who has taken it upon himself to stay well-trained. Many concealed carry citizens like myself fall into one of these groups and are better trained than the average police officer.

          I seem to recall a concealed carry citizen who showed great restraint at a mall because as we are all taught in concealed carry training, we have to account for every bullet, both the ones that hit the mark and the ones that don’t. He did not shoot because of the crowd behind the target.

        • Isaiah Davenport

          That gives you the same training as a police officer or an armed security guard I don’t think so. You and the NRA can keep living in your fantasy world. NRA and GOP have never let facts stand in their way.

        • BIZC8

          I just gave you facts. You are the one living in a fantasy world thinking that criminals will spare you every time. I wonder if that’s what some of the liberal minded folks that have been massacred lately thought before they took one to the head. You have an awful lot of respect for criminals.

        • Isaiah Davenport

          You gave me NRA talking points.

        • Nearmsp

          You give the extreme left liberal view point which is against the US constitution.

        • jarhead1982

          Anything that proves your position a lie, you call an NRA talking point and then you never provide one single proper govt. cite to back up your claims, hypocrite much….

        • Bing Bang Pow

          The average ccl holder has significantly more firearm training than cops or security guards.

          Libs hate it was a good guy atops a bad gun with a gun. The libs would prefer to submit and get shot. And the no gun sign in the window proves criminals dont care about gun laws.

          Too bad the thugs survived.

        • FILA

          But what if the criminals did fire first? Then the employees would of been hit. So that would of been ok?

        • Isaiah Davenport

          Most criminals who rob stores are interest in cash or merchandise. They are not interested in earning a murder rap with life in prison or death penalty depending on the state. Are the circumstances where employees get shot yes but they are not the majority.

        • BIZC8

          Criminals only want the money? You wanna bet your life on it? If so, you sure have the right to do so, but don’t expect nor demand the rest of us do the same. Thank you very much!

        • MickeiKnight

          What century do you live in? Criminals with masks will kill now.

        • FILA

          In Baltimore, your thinking is reverse, they don’t care here. So what if they did shoot?

        • WTexas

          If you threaten someone with a gun, be prepared to forfeit your life.

        • Nearmsp

          If the thugs had shot innocent people you would be the first to scream about gun deaths and needing gun control. Now that a responsible citizen saved lives by using his gun, you are calling him reckless. So what do you want to happen? When thugs come raise your hands up and pants down? That would not be reckless in your opinion, right.

        • StinkFinGr

          Who says the robbers were going to take what they wanted and leave? Suppose they had them kneel, pray, and kiss their asses goodbye so as to leave no witnesses? Grow up and get a pair. These criminals are not just down on their luck, otherwise would be do gooders but for their unfortunate financial circumstances. There are many, many people out there that would kill you just as soon as look at you then high five on the way out.

    • TMOTECH

      Yep. You are the only one.

    • ???

      Your not the only one who thinks that way. I wouldn’t shop any store who knowing allowed an employee to carry a weapon and shoot at a robber. If the store wanted to have a trained security guard or off duty police officer thats fine. I know a few T-Mobile stores who do have armed guards and I’m fine shopping with them.

    • atown7475

      If this was a Corporate T-Mobile store. They would fire this guy.

  • Cool! Dangerous criminals stopped dead in their tracks!

  • Isaiah Davenport

    I am not going to spend the whole night arguing with a mental person who needs professional help. I do not want to devolve and go back to the wild west days where everybody has guns and shoots each other dead.

    • jarhead1982

      No you are not going to argue with me, you are being lectured to, cause in order for you to argue, you would have to have more than WAAAAH DATS NOT TWUE CAUSE YOU SAID SO WAAAAAAH, capiche….

  • Red-blooded American

    I am amazed by the ignorance of the general (mostly democratic) population. You use the argument of it being right or wrong for the employee taking the matter of saving people’s lives into his own hands and successfully doing so. Not only to mention all you anti gun/Americans talk about the need of more gun laws not realizing that this took place in Chicago one of the most regulated city’s in the country, and yet 2 armed men attempted to rob and potentially kill innocent people. The man was trained due to the fact that here in Illinois he had to take a training course to obtain his ccw and if he would’ve taken your weak minded way of calling the cops chances are the crooks would’ve panicked and possibly killed everyone. If you have such issues with our Constitutional rights feel free to live somewhere else. My NRA and GOP family would be more than happy to help you pack. That employee is a hero and I only wish more people were that brave. Justice was served!

    • Team Tmobile

      There we go again, name calling… any citizen (employee) has the Right to defend Himself or Herself regardless of our political affiliation, just get proper training…please!

      • jarhead1982

        What does training exactly have to do with exercising ones right to defend themself….

        • ianken

          So you don’t end up shooting yourself or an innocent bystander in the nuts because you don’t know how to properly employ firearms. That’s why.

          Like the good guy with a gun why shot the car jacking victim in the head.

        • jarhead1982

          So how many of these actually ended up with bystanders being shot eh….

          Surely if it happens as much as you infer you would see that happened in at least one of these eh…

          Why cant you prove that eh sweety…

          http : //www . detroitnews .
          com/story/news/local/detroit-city/2015/06/08/woman-shoots-carjacking-suspect-detroits-west-side/28675567/

          http : //www . redding .
          com/news/local-news/man-wounded-in-shooting


          https : //gma . yahoo .
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          http : //www . nbcdfw .
          com/news/local/Gun-Toting-Grandma-Stops-Would-Be-Assailant-300874131 . html


          http : //www . newson6 .
          com/story/28712218/92-year-old-blind-woman-wards-of-west-tulsa-burglars


          http : //wavy .
          com/2015/03/12/woman-shoots-man-trying-to-break-into-her-newport-news-home/


          http : //www . fox5vegas . com/story/26635005/man-shot


          http : //www . 10tv .
          com/content/stories/2015/02/19/columbus-guilford-avenue-shooting . html

        • jarhead1982

          The funniest thing is that when one reviews the actual government data, between states with significant training requirements vs state with minimal requirements, we dont see any difference in accident rates…

          Why is that tinkerbell..

          http : //www . al .
          com/news/huntsville/index.ssf/2015/02/owens_cross_roads_homicide_upd . html


          http : //www . kltv .
          com/story/28076188/east-texan-fatally-shoots-man-she-says-forced-entry-into-her-home


          http : //www . mlive . com/news/flint/index .
          ssf/2015/02/11-year-old_child_uses_shotgun . html


          http : //www . forsythnews . com/section/6/article/26685/
http :
          //controversialtimes .
          com/issues/constitutional-rights/video-female-college-student-pulls-gun-on-home-invaders-and-rescues-her-boyfriend/

          
http : //www . kitsapsun .
          com/news/local-news/man-shot-in-forearm-in-east-bremerton_68034513
http :
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          http : //www . kwch .
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http : //www . caller .
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          http : //controversialtimes .
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http : //gunssavelives .
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          http : //www . kirotv .
          com/news/news/breaking-news-woman-edmonds-shoots-home-invasion-s/njG2Q/

        • jarhead1982

          Just horrible when the uninformed and limited intellect anti gun eloi get schooled in reality eh….

          Still waiting on all those accidental shootings by good guys…

          Unlike the 1 mil police who are proven 11 times more likely to accidentally shoot a bystander than the 13.8 mil cpl licensee’s…

          But dont let govt. facts get in the way of illicit narcotic fueled fanatsies…

          http : //www . wisn . com/news/woman-pulls-out-gun-fires-at-wouldbe-robber/29709414?absolute=true


          http : //www . myfox28columbus .
          com/news/features/top-stories/stories/After-Her-Son-is-Shot-in-a-Store-A-Mother-Shoots-Back-at-the-Suspects-56689
          . shtml# . VKC2CZ0BC


          http : //www . kktv .
          com/home/headlines/Man-killed-in-early-morning-shooting-281226581 . html


          http : //www . msnewsnow .
          com/story/27146637/mother-describes-traumatic-home-invasion


          http : //wwlp .
          com/2014/10/25/mentally-ill-man-allegedly-rapes-pit-bull/

          
http : //www . turlockjournal . com/section/15/article/27531/


          http : //newsok .
          com/woman-stabbed-man-shot-in-southeast-oklahoma-city-early-wednesday/article/5345087


          http : //www . clickorlando .
          com/news/orange-city-woman-holds-robber-at-gunpoint/28253074
http : //www .
          dailyherald . com/article/20140919/news/140917900/

          
http : //www . ksat . com/content/pns/ksat/news . . . . html


          http : //www . kansas . com/news/local/crime/article2032390 .
          html


          http : //www . wowt . com/home/headlines/Would-273544871 . html

        • jarhead1982

          Such a small portion of the actual defensive gun uses out there if one only looks, and GASP how few accidental shootings occur because of that….

          http : //www . nwherald .
          com/2014/09/02/2-teens-charged-in-crystal-lake-break-in-that-resulted-in-shooting/azbwmza/


          http : //www . 10tv .
          com/content/stories/2014/08/29/lancaster-ohio-lancaster-woman-scares-off-bat-wielding-attackers-by-pulling-gun-on-them
          . html


          http : //www . live5news .
          com/story/26338365/cpd-mother-opens-fire-on-armed-robbery-suspects-at-downtown-charleston-home


          http : //minnesota . cbslocal .
          com/2014/08/15/man-shot-in-pope-co-shooting-idd/


          http : //www . kfvs12 . com/story/26236309/deputies-woman-takes-matter-into-own-hands-during-home-invasion


          http : //abc11 . com/246910/
http : //6abc .
          com/news/suspected-burglar-shot-by-female-homeowner/241397/


          http : //www . myfoxtampabay .
          com/story/26176093/manatee-county-woman-scares-burglar-off-with-gun


          http : //www . wtvm .
          com/story/26124805/mom-shoots-at-burglar-trying-to-steal-her-car


          http : //fox10tv .
          com/2014/07/21/grandmother-shoots-would-be-burglary-suspect/


          http : //www . wyff4 . com/news/deputies-cashie . . .


          http : //articles . philly .
          com/2014-06-25/news/50829109_1_knife-wielding-man-inspector-scott-small-police-officer

          
http : //www . wsbtv .
          com/news/news/local/woman-shoots-would-be-home-intruders/nf9kS/


          http : //www . kcci . com/news/woman-pulls-handgun-on-wouldbe-robber/26132766#!beXy8I


          http : //wkbn .
          com/2014/05/21/clerk-pulls-gun-shoots-alleged-robber/


          Good luck liar…..

        • Sectime

          Difference between killing innocent people vs bad guys. This country was founded on the principle of personal responsibility.

        • jarhead1982

          So then prove lawful gun owners cause all the accidents…oh wait….

          The New York times gun report created in 2012 by anti gunterd editor of the NYTimes Joe Nocera, was created to embarrass gun owners.

          Funniest thing was, it was shuttered in 2013 because people started noting police reports on the comments section of each death and
          it turned out virtually all were criminals shooting criminals, and the 100 kids they listed, 97 lived in homes with criminals.

          When the times lists a 20 year old “child” shot and killed, and people with access to arrest records note that the “child” has five arrests for gang activity the NYT has a problem with its spinning.

          The first child death they covered in my state, a 4-year-old was living in the home where his mother was living with a boyfriend who had a prior murder conviction. He was high on crack and shot the kid by accident with his illegal to own gun.

          The NYT’s problem was what it really showed is almost all accidental death by abuse of a gun is about criminal’s killing each other or homes with criminals being dangerous to other occupants. guns don’t elevate danger at all, criminals do.

          Why is it you arrogant anti gun terrorists cant provide any real govt. cites or data to prove this isnt true in any of the other 50 states eh….

      • Red-blooded American

        Name calling? The only thing even remotely close would be “weak minded” which in the context it is used refers to the state of thought being used not name calling.. Only reason I included any political views was die to earlier post.

        • Red-blooded American

          Due to*

    • sorandkairi

      Dude shut up. He did good. Nobody here cares about your damn political ideology.

      • jarhead1982

        Aw, were the two thuggsta criminals your family members…….

        • sorandkairi

          How bout you come to my house and I’ll show you just how much of a “thug”I am. *Hint* This is a straight up threat, internet tough guy. I’ve got plenty of legal lead I can pump you full of. #standyourgroundstate

          If you ain’t making travel plans then don’t talk to me.

          Sorandkairi00@hotmail.com

        • jarhead1982

          Why would I, an honest gun owner associate with known criminals like you……

          Like all petty coonmunity irganizers you not only want my 2A you want my 1A, stalin would be so proud of you…

          Oh and sweety, I will say what I want, when I want, how I want, and to whom I choose every single time some idiot posts some bovine BS anti gun dumfukkery or otherwise in public and there isnt one fkkn thing you can do about it…..

          Ki$$mya$$@hotmail.com

        • Sectime

          Expected response from someone with a jar for a head. Cause you ain’t no marine except in video games.

        • jarhead1982

          Expected response from a negative IQ anti gun pervert

      • Red-blooded American

        The only political expression from me was not anything to do with my view. I only expressed or rights as Americans. The only reason Democrat was mentioned was because they and liberals are the majority vote trying to strip us of our constitutional right to protect ourselves. Not only did I express how the employee did a great job but also referred to him as a hero. Your arguing and agreeing with me at the same time, obviously just attempting to find an argument. My opinion was “if you don’t like the views this country was built on then leave.” I wouldn’t move to a bad neighborhood then complain about the crime.

        Many lives were lost fighting to give us the freedom/rights we have. The least we the people can do is respect that.

  • MickeiKnight

    The employee should get free tmoble stuff and service for life.

  • Stone Cold

    kudos for what he did

  • jarhead1982

    http : //www . capitol . tn . gov/Bills/109/Bill/SB1736 . pdf

    Coming soon to Illinis, Employers Responsibility Act…..

    You ban your employees from defending themselves and they are injured, criminal charges and massive law suits…..

    • Mike

      Only job’s that have employee’s deal with the public and money transaction should only be allowed to have a concealed gun. If you work in a production, warehouse, or similar there is no reason to have a gun on your hip at work.

      • jarhead1982

        Opinions of non American criminals running from felony charges aren’t relevant to sane people

    • Deal with it

      If this law you are talking about doesn’t protect the employer from getting sued because their employee weapon misfired or they killed someone innocent you can bet that a lot of companies will look to hire employees who don’t want to carry a weapon. You can say it’s illegal and discriminating as much as you want, but employers have ways around that also.

  • atown7475

    Man……..I Just came to pay my bills and got shot

  • Jeff Martinez

    Hell yes…and he wounded them too? Even better. Haha

  • Philz

    Second Amendment for the win!

  • M C

    This is amazing. Now T-Mobile is moving to no conceal carry nationwide. Previously it was only employees, not law abiding citizens are denied there second amendment rights. Email went out today…