Alcatel OneTouch Idol 3 will be available with a 4.7-inch screen starting August 14

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Earlier this year, Alcatel OneTouch released the Idol 3 5.5, and it ended up getting pretty positive reviews. Now Alcatel OneTouch is back with a smaller version of the device.

The Alcatel OneTouch Idol 3 4.7 will launch August 14 for $179.99. You’ll be able to buy it from Alcatel OneTouch’s US web store, as well as from Amazon. Here’s a quick rundown of what you’ll be getting if you take the plunge:

  • 4.7-inch 1280×720 display
  • 1.2GHz quad-core Snapdragon 410 processor
  • 13-megapixel rear, 5-megapixel front cameras
  • 16GB of storage
  • microSD slot that supports cards up to 32GB
  • 1.5GB of RAM
  • 2000mAh battery
  • Android 5.0.2

It’s also worth noting that the Idol 3 4.7 supports GSM 850/900/1800/1900MHz, HSPA+ bands 1, 2, 4, and 5, as well as LTE bands 2, 4, 5, 7, 12, and 17. So if you do decide to put your SIM into the Idol 3 4.7, it should work well with T-Mobile’s network. Unfortunately, you’ll likely miss out on Wi-Fi Calling.

As with most compact versions of larger smartphones, there are some differences between the Idol 3 5.5 and Idol 3 4.7. The processor in the smaller model is a step down from the larger phone, and the Idol 3 4.7’s also got a bit less RAM and a smaller battery. The upside, though, is that the Idol 3 4.7 is a good bit smaller than the Idol 3 5.5 (134.6 x 65.9 x 7.55mm vs 152.7 x 75.14 x 7.4mm), something that should be attractive to folks that prioritize one-handed use. The Idol 3 4.7 also costs around $70 less than its big sibling.

Are you interested in the Alcatel OneTouch Idol 3 4.7?

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  • Stone Cold

    Nice little starter phone.

  • Indeed, the 5.5″ version is too large for my preferences. This 4.7″ is interesting, but quite less speced than the other, especially memory, battery and cameras. The Moto G might be a better option, slotted in between the Idol 3 versions.

    BTW, it seems that T-Mobile is ignoring band 12 support in phones which do not also support VOLTE. Their reasoning is that, since the range of band 12 guess farther than its other bands, without VOLTE the phone would have to fall back to band 2 for a call, which might be out of range. Any truth to this?

    In some forums, people said that Android updates disabled band 12 on the Moto E for T-Mobile customers and a Motorola forum moderator stated that band 12 was erroneously listed among the bands sported by the 3rd Moto G, though it still figures there.

    • steveb944

      “BTW, it seems that T-Mobile is ignoring band 12 support in phones which do not also support VOLTE. ”

      What’s your proof on this?

      • You read my comment carefully, I’m actually asking for such proof myself. So far, I’ve just come at it in forums (v. bit. ly/1KZImTU and bit. ly/1gt8qfD ). I was hoping that Alex, with his contacts at T-mobile, could gather better information about this.

        • steveb944

          Thank you, I wanted the sites because I wasn’t understanding.

          I guess it makes sense to remove it as the majority of consumers won’t know band 12=/= voice/SMS coverage.

          Meaning that T-Mobile customers need to make sure unlocked devices have voLTE. That SUCKS.

        • Mark_from_Davis

          I can confirm this, I have been pursuing this with Motorola after buying a Moto G that has band 12 disabled. They disabled it because of lack of VoLTE support, and the hardware will not support VoLTE. Their customer support offered to give me a full refund if Amazon will not take it back. Some links with more info:

          https://forums.motorola.com/posts/148bf4c95a?page=2

          https://forums.motorola.com/posts/ecb8265dfc?page=4

          http://www.howardforums.com/showthread.php/1867825-New-Moto-G-%282015%29-Supports-Band-12-LTE-at-179/page4

          It’s really too bad, because the Moto G was otherwise a great phone. Now I’m stuck looking for something else with Band 12 and VoLTE support…

        • I’d have thought that VOLTE was purely a software feature, so I’d hope to see band 12 make a comeback after an update. Is VOLTE a hardware feature instead?

        • Mark_from_Davis

          This was the response from Motorola customer support last Fri:

          “I apologize for the incorrect information. This was a carrier
          requirement over concerns about Band 12 connections by phones that are
          not capable of VoLTE. On non-VoLTE phones like the MOTO G, your phone
          could even show you have a signal, but would be unable to complete a
          call. At this point there is no plan to change or address Band 12
          support on the Moto G. Please let me know if you would like assistance
          with returning the Moto G 3rd Gen for a full refund.”

        • Major bummer! This means that most unlocked devices that support band 12 will not work on the TMUS network.

        • Mark_from_Davis

          Agreed… I found this incredibly disappointing for the Moto G, just heartbreaking for an otherwise great phone. How could they have missed that??? Just double-checked that the alcatel Idol 3 does support VoLTE though, so that’s something at least.

        • I couldn’t confirm that the Idol 3 supports VOLTE at bit. ly/1Uzf3Mi Where did you find it?

        • Mark_from_Davis

          Saw it listed here –
          http://www.androidcentral.com/alcatel-onetouch-idol-3-review

          But not here:
          http://www.gsmarena.com/alcatel_idol_3_%285_5%29-7081.php

          *sigh*, may be no way to be certain except to try it?

        • One would expect to find this at the manufacturer’s website, but apparently not. Sigh… this will make picking an unlocked phone that will work on band 12 with TMUS very hard.

        • Mark_from_Davis

          Definitely something tmobile and the phone makers need to work on… Given the additional oneplus two delay that was just announced (in addition to all the invite uncertainty), I think I’m resolved to return the Moto G and try the idol 3 5.5, and hope for the best.

        • My Nexus 5 is starting to show signs of old age (GPS loses the lock frequently and the screen flickers every once in a while), so I was eagerly seeking its replacement. Of course, I’ve been favoring those supporting band 12, but that may mean nothing for now. If so, then the Moto X 2nd for $299 is not a bad candidate. It doesn’t support band 12, but this unfortunately seems to be a moot point.

        • Mark_from_Davis

          I had picked up a LG Leon just the week before the Moto G was released, as a temporary phone until something better with band 12 support came out. It had some issues with call and bluetooth quality, but with band 12 support the signal and bandwidth were amazing (in Davis, California). When the Moto G came out a week later I returned it, figuring that with the same advertised band support the Moto G would be even better for just $100 more. But the non-band-12 LTE is clearly much lower in speed, and the signal is poorer as well, so it’s clearly a factor in my area. I just don’t see any point in sticking with a newly-released phone that doesn’t have those capabilities right from the start…

        • Here’s to hope that VOLTE is merely a software feature that’ll be added to existing or planned phones in the near future after such a fiasco.

        • Mark_from_Davis

          That was my hope, but Motorola’s response pretty much killed that. Seems like it was also a problem on the Moto E, and that it was never added there – seems to be both a software and hardware issue, perhaps? VoLTE is now included in android 5+, but for the oneplus two I read news that said that while it had the hardware support the software side was likely to not be done by release, and would have to be added via an OTA update.

        • What a mess… Hopefully, my Nexus will linger on for another year without getting any worse. Perhaps by then the dust will have settled.

        • Mark_from_Davis

          Time is more critical for me – my phone was a galaxy nexus, two models before yours :P Semi-fried itself in a charging incident last month, forcing a replacement. Had been hoping it would last until the dust had settled, no such luck. Idol 3 5.5 ordered, hope it does the trick!

        • Hopefully the Idol 3 does support VOLTE and you finally get a decent phone, after so much confusion.

        • Mark_from_Davis

          To follow up on this – playing with the idol 3 today. It has band 12 support, but no volte support yet (seems to need to be enabled by a software update). Confirmed this with LTE discovery, which is handy.

          https://android.stackexchange.com/questions/109946/does-alcatel-one-touch-idol-3-show-which-lte-band-is-used-e-g-12

          https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=net.simplyadvanced.ltediscovery&hl=en

          Idol 3 5.5 is quite nice, but may have some issues with call quality, checking that out…

        • How would one obtain such software update, if it’s available at all?

          Thanks for following up.

        • Mark_from_Davis

          Assume it would have to be an OTA update from alcatel… The phone does only have 5.0.2, not 5.1.1 . Would be nice if it all came combined with Android M when that gets released, but I guess it may be relying on hope too much. Hope that the band 12 doesn’t get disabled by an update instead, like with the Moto G…

        • gmo8492

          I don’t understand why volte is a requirement in order to place a call via band 12. Is this how T-Mobile set it up for phones? Oh wait, that means areas that have band 12 also have no fall back in order to complete a call. Damn!

  • klw2005

    The phone became available over the weekend on the Alcatel site, for $199 (fulfillment is apparently through Amazon). I ordered mine, which shipped this morning (two-day Prime shipping).

  • J.J.

    back up to a back up

    • steveb944

      You’re thinking it’s going to be less sluggish with the 410? That’s delusional.

      I tested it out for a bit and the 64 bit processor was decent. It wasn’t as fast as the 801 I have, so I didn’t keep it.

      • J.J.

        no i meant i cant expect it to have any speed with the slower 410, meaning i also think this phone will be slow. yea i had a oneplus one as a nice back up but it missing the right tmo bands was hurting me so i sold it. saw reviews that the idol could not touch the opo in speed so i let it pass.

        • steveb944

          Agreed. I’m waiting for a worthy band 12 device to upgrade from my OPO. Fingers crossed for the Huawei Nexus.

        • J.J.

          im still interested in the op2 since i rarely use nfc(ducks thrown chair) but the 810 and invite system still bothers me

        • thepanttherlady

          I never use it so I’d have to duck further down than you. LOL

        • steveb944

          Haha, I left the chair on the floor. I keep finding more places to use it, and I like the added security from Google.
          The invites weren’t too bad on the OPO, I got it after a month from spreading word like 1-2 times on Twitter (which I rarely use).

          For me I need front facing speakers, OIS, NFC, an 820 and fast charge…I’m not asking for much.

          If you can, wait till October for the 820 devices which Oneplus may release the OP2.5, they’re still considering making it better than the OP2 or not.

        • J.J.

          i heard about that possible 3rd op device. i bought mine when they had open sale for a few hours. no twitter for me, i try to stay away from the big social media. you my friend must be waiting for the htc m10 lol. so ill have to wait and see because nothing out now has me wanting to replace my note 4 or purchase a new back up.

        • steveb944

          If HTC released a decent phablet I’d be first in line. I would’ve even gone for the mid ranger they released overseas because I loved everything else about it.

        • J.J.

          i think i would too htc had a 5.5in+ 3300mah+battery, camera that actually competes with the note4/s6, scanner and a updated non mediatek soc. id be on it

        • Mike Palomba

          Wasn’t there an HTC One Max?

        • steveb944

          The phablet version of the M9 was overseas only and had a Mediatek processor.

      • J.J.

        lol i said “can” meant “cant”…been edited. srry

    • Acdc1a

      I’ve got the 5.5″. I’m not exactly sure what these reviewers put the phone through to experience any lag whatsoever. I replaced my Galaxy S5 with this phone and I’m not looking back.

      • J.J.

        im glad its working out for you. question ive owned s2,3,4, but not the 5. did you have many issues with the s5? ive just heard so may horror stories on that phone.

        • Acdc1a

          I had the S2 and S3. I skipped 4 since the 3 is the best phone ever made to this day. I also used the Note 2 and my wife uses the Note 3. All were/are good phones.

          The S5 had a bad habit of getting hot under light load, freezing, and horrifying lag. I had 2 replacements that behaved exactly the same. The battery life was also pretty bad.

        • J.J.

          i asked because some times i would buy an old flagship on the cheap but i think i may stay away from the s5. thx

        • Mike Palomba

          I have a friend with an s5 and he has no complaints. It’s waterproof, has good specs, and is durable compared to some other flagships. Plus, its rather cheap now so I’d go for it.

        • J.J.

          mixed reviews lol thx

      • 3D games it gets laggy. Doing stuff while installing apps it gets laggy. That is all.

      • orlando duran

        U gave up the s5 for alcatel. …I’m sorry. Alcatel makes nothing but junk

        • Acdc1a

          My guess is you’ve never used this device. No need to be sorry, for less than the cost of a used, beat up S5 I have an excellent phone and jumped to a Lumia 640 as a backup. After I paid for that phone and removed JUMP! my bill went down by $32 and I’m much happier with my wireless experience.

          You can feel free to encourage Samsung to build trash.

  • pseudoswede

    I really wish Google would just step up and get wifi calling baked into Android 5.0+ once and for all. Just like iOS 8.

  • Not too bad, but Moto G is stiff competition. I like this recent proliferation of decent mid-range phones (which work fine for non-gamers).

    I’m sure everyone who wants a 4.7 inch Android phone with high-end specs is disappointed yet again.

    Alcatel’s Android is pretty close to pure Google, there are a few add-on apps that you can remove easily.

    • Medion

      Thankfully the Z5 Compact is showing a a similar size (in leaks) to the Z3 Compact, which was an excellent 4.6″ device with a slightly smaller body than the 2013 Moto X.

    • Acdc1a

      I don’t like the RAM and Chipset downgrade from my full blown idol 3. That said, after using my phone for a couple of months the quality is there in this line. I’d at least consider this phone if I had to have a sub 5″ phone.

    • Sean

      The fact that Motorola disabled Band 12 on the Moto G (and Moto E) gives the Alcatel phone the network edge (pun intended, I suppose).

      • I haven’t seen Band 12 in action yet on my Idol 3, but I haven’t managed to go anywhere where it’s on yet.

        • I wonder if the Idol 3 lacks VOLTE if you’d ever see band 12 even if it were available in your area though.

        • It does support VoLTE, but is not enabled. It needs a software update.

        • I’ve used Band 12 with my Idol 3, since its signal strength is stronger than Band 4. It will switch to Band 4 once it notices its signal is a bit stronger. I’ve also used Band 2 in rural areas as well. Works like a charm.

      • Mike Palomba

        If they disabled it shouldn’t someone be able to modify the files and enable it?

        • Nick

          I was wondering the same thing, but I think I heard somewhere that the hardware for it was completely disabled and there’s no way to enable it.

    • JLV90

      Who really plays graphics intense games on their phones? Seems really pointless to me battery drain like crazy, terrible touch screen controls, etc.

  • dontsh00tmesanta

    if only it had 2gb ram

  • J Cav the Great

    Does it run stock Android??? Then I can excuse the 1.5RAM…I need a one hand phone

    • Acdc1a

      Fairly stock.

    • there is a “light” skin that Alcatel put on top of stock Android L. Other than that its basically stock Android. There are also discussions on XDA forums about rooting the 5.5 version of the Idol 3. So, eventually the 4.7 version should be able to be rooted.

  • AS118

    Looks nice, I am interested, actually.

  • pug_ster

    Okay price I guess. I brought the 5.5 version from Amazon for the same price a few weeks back when it was on sale.

  • AS118

    I know I’m late to the party, but I just found out about this phone today, and I think it may be my next phone. JBL front stereo speakers could seal the deal.