Magenta has fastest U.S. LTE network according to OpenSignal report

According to the most recent report published by OpenSignal, T-Mobile has the fastest LTE speeds on average in the States. Its average download speeds are 11.5Mbps, making it faster than AT&T’s 9.12Mbps, Verizon’s 7.82Mbps and Sprint’s mediocre 4.32Mbps.

Although that may sound great, the report is pretty damning on the state of the US’ LTE coverage. Although it was one of the first countries to start building on the 4th gen networking technology, it’s one of the poorest speed-wise, when compared to the res of the world.

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Australia’s average, for instance, is 24.5Mbps. In fact, Italy, Brazil, Hong Kong and Denmark are all above 20Mbps. The States’ LTE networks average out at 6.5Mbps. This is mostly down to the fact that so many people are using LTE in the U.S. It’s clogging up the network and slowing it down for everyone else.

T-Mobile – currently – is building out its coverage, upgrading its LTE networks to 10+10 and 20+20 in a number of locations. This not only improves possible download speeds, but also takes care of the “clogging” issue by providing more spectrum. Its move to purchase A-block, low frequency spectrum from Verizon will only bolster its network further.

Its worth checking out the full report. There are some really useful graphs, breaking down speeds, coverage, and how much time users spend using LTE in their respective countries. Read it over at OpenSignal.com.

 

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  • Jorge Luis Marrero Santos

    Good News.. ;)

  • Herbert Portillo

    I average about 20 megabits with T-Mobile, with highs of 38-39 megabits.

    It’s really great…when you can connect to it. I get great coverage at my desk. I go to the bathroom, not even EDGE. I get great coverage on the sidewalk. I walk into a store, not even EDGE.

    Making LTE more available is good, but T-Mobile also needs to make it more reliable in cities that already have it.

    • http://twitter.com/SParKlngCyaNide SparklingCyanide

      I don’t have that issue at all. Have strong signals even indoors and I haven’t seen EDGE in years.

      • fsured

        Do you live in the same city as Herbert? Work in the same office? Shop in the same stores? We all know the coverage issue varies by market and even within a covered city there are dead spots.

        • http://twitter.com/SParKlngCyaNide SparklingCyanide

          Thank you Captain Obvious and Officer Snark. ; ) No, I didn’t know that… THANK YOU! lol

        • bkin94

          haha I’m sure you’re welcome, sergeant sarcasm :-)

        • fsured

          HAHAHA, it’s cool. I was on the short side with words earlier and apologize. It gets a bit annoying when people say they have perfect signal everywhere they go in response to those who live in areas where coverage is good when they have signal. I’ve been in the situation that Herbert mentions.

          The annoyance also goes the other with people complaining about the company not expanding to cover the 2g areas and people pounce on them. I get it. The constant subject of why are they not fixing 2g coverage, they are doing nothing, T-Mobile sucks. We know it needs to be done and this issue of coverage is the “red headed step child” in the room. Many tech reviews for new hardware or network comparisons ding T-Mobile, without calling it out by name usually, in some way by mentioning coverage sizes and the latest hardware is only as good as the network it is on. It usually then mentions how Verizon and At&t will offer complete LTE coverage everywhere. Again I’ve been this situation visiting family and only receive 2g or no signal and understand their frustration of people. It would suck to have this amazing hardware and hear of this amazingly fast network and get what, 230-300kbs where they live?

          The company wants to fix that coverage problem as it is a thorn in their side but can’t until the spectrum is available and finances are in place for the needed hardware/back-haul upgrades. It is the same with cities that have dead spots or areas that hit 2g and one block over it is LTE. They are improving though but it is not as fast as customers or management would like. Some areas that were only 2g are getting the 4g/LTE upgrades but it posses different challenges to get done compared to areas that had the resources already in place.

          When LTE first launched where I live the HSPA+ network was faster and had higher reliability for maintaining cell connections. Now where I work I can get 1 bar of LTE inside the building when previously it was hit or miss with drop outs. That 1 bar of LTE connection even has faster data speeds than HSPA+. I think I’ve seen hit 26-29 twice. I ran the test a second time thinking it was a fluke but average 16-21 down now.

        • Roger Sales

          purchasing the A block so that they can feasibly deploy LTE financially IS something. I understand the frustration with the rural coverage and whatnot, but if T-Mobile had deployed 3G/LTE as fast as customers wanted, it’d be at a price that we would not want. At that point you might as well switch to Verizon or something.

        • fsured

          Yep, our prices may not be what they are if different steps were taken. You are correct that the purchase of 700mhz IS something and shows the company is working to expand their network. The company IS working on it and people who say otherwise are being clouded by their desire to have it fixed now. It’s going to take time unfortunately. Maybe if they got a cash injection from DT for the purpose of fixing the sore spot it could be done. But that won’t happen.

        • Roger Sales

          I think what most people fail to understand is, good things come in time. Even if T-Mobile had deployed LTE earlier, it would’ve been on older equipment they would have had to been replaced at least partially within two years for LTE-A/voLTE. It’s much better financially for us AND them to deploy it when you have the right spectrum available and the technology is future-proofed.

          Verizon and AT&T do have larger LTE networks, but because they charge so much they just always plan to replace and upgrade as fast as possible without future proofing their towers to minimize cost/be efficient.

          Verizon had tons of AWS spectrum that covered the entire eastern portion of the US even before they bought more(think around where Minnesota is up from near canada down to near mexico) and could have simply added AWS to their first LTE devices. dual band LTE devices even in the beginning were not strange or more expensive than single band, plenty of European countries that adopted early to LTE did it. Verizon even TALKED about the fact that eventually 700 mhz LTE band would be filled to capacity in 2 years. They still chose not to future proof all their phones, and the end result is that a lot of people that use Verizon pay for premium data and are stuck with a phone that can’t give them that.

          Instead they bitch when consumers and blogs post their slow LTE speeds on the 700 mhz band and say that it is not “accurate” because it doesn’t access their AWS LTE network. Could’ve saved themselves a whole mess of trouble. Newsflash: If a customer can’t get good service because of something you willingly chose not to do, It is your fault.

          AT&T on the other hand, at least learned from their mistakes with 3G and made all their LTE devices quad-band.

        • maximus1901

          Why can’t TMO deploy AWS LTE everywhere SPrint has PCS LTE? Frequencies are identical propagation-wise and Sprint’s price’s are not that much higher compared to TMO.

        • Serge

          Sprint has much more cash thanks to Softbank. They are spending twice as much as T-Mobile on capex. Their operational expenses are higher and the earnings margin is lower than T-Mobile. T-Mobile cannot afford higher capex and opex.

  • http://twitter.com/SParKlngCyaNide SparklingCyanide

    My LTE speeds in Michigan are regularly 30-40Mbps for T-Mobile, rarely does it drop into the 20′s.

    • JB

      That’s crazy! I need to move to Michigan then… Though seriously, speeds here in Kansas City, Missouri isn’t anything to sneeze at. At home there are times I can hit 26-32, but generally hit the 16-20 range in average. In a well covered part of town, like our entrainment districts, I can hit 22+ easily.

  • S. Ali

    File this under obvious. TMO has changed the game and upped the stakes.

    • maximus1901

      Can it up the stakes now in EDGE of city limits please?
      Sprint just launched LTE in metro Detroit and it blows away TMO’s coverage by surface area.

  • KingCobra

    Sounds about right. I’ve used both Verizon and AT&T in my area and Verizon has been slowing down significantly over the past few years. AT&T’s LTE has remained steady but I tend to get faster speeds on T-Mobile.

    Before the coverage comments come up, remember this report is a comparison based on data from people who are actually using each carrier’s LTE network.

  • TMO97

    1. When open source did their tests they didn’t have any phones to test 850 or 1900 LTE.

    2. T MOBILE has significantly less traffic on its network

    How can you say you did a full test when markets are not using 2100 or 700, and your drive test team doesn’t have equipment to test what’s on air?

    • Trevnerdio

      Yeah, T-Mobile has less traffic. How does that make it any less fair?

      • Tmo97

        Less traffic means higher speeds. Do you understand cellular theory?

        • Trevnerdio

          I completely understand it. Just fail to see your point. T-Mo has less subscribers which means less capital to build out their network. The others have tons of capital, their networks should be bulletproof. Hell, with those exorbitant rates Verizon charges, you’d think their network would at least be a little faster.

        • TMO97

          No. That’s not true.
          They average the speed where coverage is. So capital budget means squat. It’s why they bashed them for coverage.

          Essentially it’s like building one LTE tower in in a place with 1 user, when speeds run high, you claim fastest speed. Forget the fact it’s smaller coverage with less customers. Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain.

        • Trevnerdio

          Welcome to the world of cellular advertising ;)

        • TMO97

          Oh I agree, but T-MOBILE customers shouldn’t be here giving high fives when the real story is quite different.

        • Trevnerdio

          Well it doesn’t change the fact that we consistently get fast speeds. We like fast speeds.

        • Roger Sales

          the lowest I’ve seen LTE in NYC metro is around 6-7 downlink, which is fast enough. As for LTE load, T-Mobile has stayed ahead of the curve by pushing people who used to be on AWS HSPA+ only devices to PCS HSPA+ and/or AWS LTE, so they can get LTE to 20×20 as demand warrants it. They’re not making the same mistakes AT&T and Verizon did(AT&T with 3G when the iphone 3GS was around, and Verizon with selling LTE 700 only phones even though they knew they would have to launch on AWS eventually.)

          I sincerely doubt I’ll see the day that T-Mobile’s LTE becomes “clogged”.

        • maximus1901

          How’s your in building coverage?

        • fsured

          Doesn’t the higher frequency that T-Mobile uses also allow for faster data speeds? That could play a factor in network speeds in addition to less people hitting the cell tower connections. Verizon knows their network speeds are lacking and will get a speed boost by the 1900 spectrum, or is it 2100, they are getting as part of the 700mhz deal.

        • Trevnerdio

          Yeah, if you’re standing in the middle of the street…go inside and what? Where’d my signal go?

        • fsured

          That is a different issue. I wasn’t talking about the higher frequency of the signal allowing better speeds with in building penetration. That doesn’t happen which is why they need the lower frequency. I know exactly what you mean by stepping in a building and have signal and speeds drop.

        • Trevnerdio

          Yeah, I’m not calling you dumb, man :)

        • maximus1901

          Higher frequencies allow tighter cell spacing which allows for more capacity which results in higher average speeds.

    • philyew

      I understand what you are saying here and in the following comments, but you seem to be implying that these tests were carried out by OpenSignal as an organization. Here’s what they have to say about their methodology:

      “The OpenSignal app allows users to contribute to our impartial coverage maps of mobile networks, we took data from those of our 6 million users who have LTE and focussed on their experience of two key metrics: download speed, and the proportion of time spent with LTE access. All data included in this report comes from the second half of 2013.”

      While the results still obviously reflect experience only in those areas where LTE coverage exists, the network loading isn’t going to be as disproportionate as the total subscriptions of each carrier might suggest. In other words, just because Verizon has 2.5 times the number of subscribers compared with TM, it doesn’t mean their network is 2.5 more densely loaded in those areas where each has LTE coverage.

      Since TM concentrate network modernization in their largest markets, the vast majority of their customers are concentrated in those areas where they have rolled out 4G service, whereas Verizon’s customer base is more evenly distributed across the entire country, as is the deployment of their LTE network.

      I’m not suggesting that these factors equalize the loading, but the load per cell site for LTE will be less favorable to TM than you might think.

  • Trevnerdio

    11.5 average? I rarely get below 30…Panama City (Beach), FL

  • Kidney_Thief

    “This is mostly down to the fact that so many people are using LTE in the U.S. It’s clogging up the network and slowing it down for everyone else.”

    Or it may be because Sprint’s speeds are so woefully bad, bringing down the average for everyone else.

  • JaswinderSinghJammu

    Did any of you guys saw an article on phone scoop about a technology called pcell? It’s developed by a conpany called Artemis which has faster connections regardless of how many people are accessing wireless network simultaneously

    • http://twitter.com/SParKlngCyaNide SparklingCyanide

      Yes! it’s very Exciting, but it’s going to be years until we really see a widespread roll out.

    • Jay Holm

      A long, long time ago I also saw an article about 1mbps speeds on EDGE, and all it required was a software upgrade,. . .it NEVER happened!!! I don’t put much faith in that sorta stuff. Ultimately, it’s all up to a companies CTO as to what technolohies will be deployed.

      • Trevnerdio

        Really? I’ve never seen higher than about… 0.22 before.

        • Jay Holm

          Just Google these words, and you’ll find the article, no hardware upgrades necessary, only software.

          Ericsson to Triple EDGE Speeds phonescoop

        • Trevnerdio

          Interesting…I thought phones were only capable of 250kbps or so on EDGE, though.

        • ChristianMcC

          Up to 384kbps is the theoretical limit for edge tech, not employing the methods described.

        • fsured

          Ericsson, I think it is them, is supposed to demo new technology at the MWC that can handle 400mb download speeds. It’s an article on cnet. I think the pcell technology sounds like the better investment but it comes down to when either technology actually hits the market. The company behind the pcell mentioned in the article that they were meeting with carrier representatives but didn’t mention which. Hopefully nether company won’t charge up the ying yang and all networks can benefit.

          The LTE-Advance upgrade with T-Mobile is to be done with minor hardware tweaks and mainly software upgrades. It was one of the advantages the company gained by launching late with LTE. They hardware prices had dropped and the technology in the hardware had greatly improved. It’s an edge T-Mobile has over At&t and Verizon with their older LTE network hardware. But we shall see how that goes when the company is ready to launch it.

        • ChristianMcC

          I’ve gotten consistent 300kbps before, which I enjoyed for the $6 unlimited it was in Europe.

  • Eric

    And it’s only going to get faster with 2×20 LTE and other things up Neville’s sleeve.

    • maximus1901

      And what happens when people realize – cause they can’t be bothered to check the FCC spectrum maps – that 20×20 is only coming to 19 cities?

      • Eric

        T-Mobile said 23 of the 25 top markets are getting 2×20 LTE this year or maybe next year, and at least T-Mobile is making this behemoth of a network.

        • maximus1901

          And it’s only gonna be the top 25. THAT’S IT.
          Sprint has enough 2.5GHz EVERYWHERE to get crazy speeds.
          Oh AND you’re gonna be waiting for TMO a LOOONG time to get LTE outside the city limits.

        • Eric

          We weren’t talking about LTE outside of major cities, we were talking about T-Mobile’s effort to increase speed and capacity for all customers, including new ones.

          Sprint has tons of spectrum, yes, but they are not deploying it at a fast pace, nor are they using the full potential at once. And plus, they only have 2×5 MHz LTE capacity in their 800/1900 MHz bands, but up to 2×40 in their 2500 MHz bands. Again, that’s really great, but until the Sprint network actually gets speeds of up to 2.6 Gbps, as promised by Spark, it’s just not moving at a fast enough pace.

        • maximus1901

          Those were demo speeds; those are always BS speeds you know that.

        • KingCobra

          You’re using Sprint as a comparison? You’re going to be waiting a LONG time for them to do anything. Always “working on the network” like they’ve been doing for the past several years. Delay, delay, delay. Tons of spectrum with lots of promises but poor and terribly slow execution. Theoretically they should be able to compete with Verizon, but in reality they probably never will.

        • Trevnerdio

          Ah, the woes of poor management..

        • Trevnerdio

          Sprint: “Alright guys, we’re DONE with Network Vision!”
          Everyone else: “Sprint, uh…listen, it’s 2020 now. Everyone else is on to 5G, so…”

    • maximus1901

      While the speedier service is currently limited to North Dallas, T-Mobile intends to roll it out to 90 percent of the top 25 markets in the U.S. Magenta couldn’t say when those markets will go live, though, explaining that the timing depends on how quickly it’s able to shift some of the traffic on its network. T-Mo did say that it plans to have 10×10 LTE coverage in 40 of the top 50 U.S. markets by the end of the year.

      • Trevnerdio

        Wait…why the hell is Panama City in the top 30 or so markets? Not complaining or anything, but that doesn’t make any sense. There are literally only about 36k people where I live.

  • Jay J. Blanco

    Cant wait to get 10×10 Lte.

    • Trevnerdio

      10+10 is already active in most markets. 20+20 though… :D

      • Jay J. Blanco

        My city still has 5+5 idk when were getting 10+10

        • Trevnerdio

          Ah, that sucks. We went straight to 10+10 from the start. I was pleasantly surprised.

        • Jay J. Blanco

          Your so lucky poor Columbia, SC

        • Tmo Nicht

          At least you have LTE!

        • JB45

          I second that…at least you have LTE (From HSPA +21 Cincinnati)

        • Jay J. Blanco

          Yeah at least..

  • TMOguy

    We now have 15+15 mhz bandwidth on LTE here in Seattle. When I do a speedtest, if it’s late at night and nobody is on the local tower I find I just about max out the tower bandwidth with that (which is close to 50Mb/S) with my Note 3. Really nice to see that bandwidth.

    • Johnny

      Did they actually announce the deployment of 15+15?

      • TMOguy

        @J-Hop2o6 I’ve been pulling up service mode around different parts of the city and it seems pretty consistent at 15+15 here in Seatle/Bellevue now… I haven’t seen 10+10 anywhere for a long time. Also, keep in mind signal quality greatly affects speed. When you’re only getting 5Mb/S what kind of signal did you have? What was the RSRP/RSRQ/SNR? (Google those for more info). I use a widget called ‘NetworkInfo’ to assess my signal quality whereever I go. It’s awesome.
        @Johnny – no, they didn’t.. I was a bit surprised by that. I think they should, but honestly – I think the increased bandwidth is designed to accomodate more users on the same cell, then give one particular user more speed. From a business perspective, it’s simply capacity planning. Do you really need 50 Mb/S download on your phone? No.. But phreaks like us think it’s ‘Cool’! Which is why forums like this exist. And it makes for good marketing as well.

    • J-Hop2o6

      I live in Seattle also. My LTE speeds these days (mostly tested during the day) are 5-20mbps. Used to be 15-40mbps. But i’m sure its just more ppl on Tmo’s LTE network. Also, i’m not sure if 15+15 is widespread around Seattle just yet.

  • steveb944

    I’m not sure if comparing between countries is pretty fair. I’m sure you can argue the following Cam as idk how expanded the LTE is in your nation.

    In the States the networks strive to cover a huge land area throughout the nation while other countries are much smaller. Of course there are other nations that are as large or larger than the US but I HIGHLY doubt Brazil, Russia, etc. have LTE throughout ALL their large area nation covering desolate wildlife areas.

    Another issue is because we’re late to LTE deployment, other nations may already have full coverage and only need to boost speed. Unlike here.

    • Jay Holm

      This article is more so about speed, than it is about coverage.

      • steveb944

        I think you missed my point. Because we as a nation are in the early stages of deployment companies have to choose coverage or speed. T-Mobile obviously chooses speed over coverage, while the big two lean more towards coverage instead of boosting their speeds first.

      • Diver Dan

        And how has that concept been working out for the big two? Looks like
        they have been doing pretty well with it. TMO is going down the wrong
        path with all this focus on speed while coverage suffers.

        • KingCobra

          Looks like it’s been working pretty well for T-Mobile as they have been gaining more customers than the Big 2 in the past several quarters.

    • thatguy

      And you think the USA has coverage everywhere in the USA? Ask NH and Maine residents how coverage is in rural areas…

      • steveb944

        I guess that Verizon map tricked me.

        • dontsh00tmesanta

          that map counts their roaming areas

          well all carriers maps do

    • KingCobra

      The US was actually ahead in LTE deployment. We were one of the first nations to start rolling it out.

  • Jay Holm

    When is Wideband LTE going to be available in any markets other than just Dallas???

    • Paul

      Seriously…I average about 50 Mbps; and get far faster in the mornings. I look forward to other markets experiencing it. 1.3 gig ROM downloaded in under 10 minutes.

    • maximus1901

      It’s only coming to the markets where TMO has enough spectrum. 19 of the top 25 TMO keeps saying.

  • KP

    I average around 70 down and 18 up here in Dallas. The highest I’ve got is 89 and lowest 1.73 here.

    • Trevnerdio

      Holy crap…you lucky bastard, you!

      • KP

        We moved the company off ATT but we did it with the caveat that not all places will be equal until TMO gets the entire country covered like this.

        • Trevnerdio

          Soo you’re running a T-Mo/AT&T hybrid setup right now?

          EDIT: Oh, I see. You’re all on T-Mobile but some places are running 10+10.

    • ccnet005

      Wow! Corpus is only about 3 – 5 down 2-3 up, Houston between 2 – 10 down 4 -8 up, San Antonio 3-11 down and 3-7 up.
      Galveston? Forget it! wifi calling from the hotel is the only way to do anything!
      What part of dallas?

      • KP

        Our HQ is downtown but the real strength is up North. If in Plano you get off the chart results. Now you have to remember TMO is taking advantage of Dallas based MetroPCS but still great service in and out of the house or office.

        PS I still have an ATT bat phone for those troubled spots when a call from team comes. :-)

        • Jonathan

          I’m glad to see Dallas is doing well with LTE. The HSPA network SUCKS during busy times, like rush hour. Sometimes difficult to even hold a phone call. In Austin, I’ve gotten over 20mbps on HSPA+.

    • Michael

      I’m pretty sure it’s because Dallas has T-Mobiles 20×20 LTE network, while the rest has 10×10,. T-Mobile is upgrading the 10×10 LTE to 20×20 within this year and next.

  • pow

    This sucks. US carriers are already screwing their customers with prices and stupid TOS restrictions. Now I find out that they can’t even keep up with the rest of the world in terms of network service.

    • bkin94

      US carriers have more ground to cover than some other nations.

      • dontsh00tmesanta

        Thats the excuse used but what is the excuse when heavily populated cities in say mexico (mexico city) can get above 20mbps during peak hrs while here its more like 2 lol

        Even hong kong

  • adam

    in Chicago 10×10 my speed used to be 35mbps but recently its only 17mbps

    • chitown

      What part of Chicago you getting good speed cause Brickyard portage park Fullerton and Kostner it sucks out here not even close to 10 in download or 2 on upload. That’s on my galaxy S4 or my IPhone 5s.

    • Eric00

      Not trying to be rude, but are you dumb? 17 mbps is great speed. What can’t you do with 17 mbps? You really don’t need higher then 9 to do anything.

  • KlausWillSeeYouNow

    While I definitely think we need to catch up as a country, I’d say my average speed on T-Mobile’s network is > 30 Mbps. So the key factor here is that the other carriers are weighing down T-Mo’s performance.

    It’s kinda like recess at school – Sprint is the slow kid. Nobody wants Sprint on their team.

    • philyew

      In that vein, “Sprint” sounds like the kind of ironic nickname that such kids would be given.

      Your comment about other carriers weighing down the overall performance made me think about how TM also does that to themselves, by virtue of the frequencies they have to use (AWS/PCS).

      How should TM’s true performance be measured? If I stand in the middle of my home at ground level, my average DL speed is around 15mbps, but if I go upstairs and stand in the identical spot, the speed jumps to 35mbps. That seemingly insignificant elevation reduces the amount of structural interference to reveal the true signal strength that TM is delivering. If they were using sub-1GHz spectrum, doubtless I’d be seeing the same performance at ground level.

      • Clitoris

        I appreciate the irony, but everything’s in a name.

        • Trevnerdio

          Your name…why.

        • philyew

          As you are living proof, it would seem…LOL!

  • Blackhawk 60639

    Windy city Chicago. Here in portage park it’s 7 download 1.5 upload. Cicero not Fullerton it’s 5 download 1.2 upload. Foster and Ravenswood 3.7 download 1.3 upload. Harlem and 63rd 6 download 1.6 upload. Roosevelt and state street 2.3 download 1.1 upload. T-Mobile LTE in Chicago sucks 60639 60647 60641 60707.

  • chitown

    Chitown Oak Park and grand 9.9 download 1.8 upload you right Blackhawk 60639 T-Mobile in Chicago sucks big time it’s nice to know the windy city is in the house. Maybe next year we get better speed in LTE. Cause T-Mobile needs lots of work in Chicago.

  • Plow Rox

    “This is mostly down to the fact that so many people are using LTE in the
    U.S. It’s clogging up the network and slowing it down for everyone
    else.” Really??
    I’m quite sure there are 1 mile square areas in Hong Kong that have more people than … Montana …
    Add this to the excuses the telecom/cable company’s make for our bottom of the list internet speeds and well sigh.
    With the new FCC app indoors I just got 22.70Mbps down / 2.24 Mbps up. South of Kansas city Mo. on just a 4g samsung (no lte.next upgrade) So its not too bad here.

  • kev2684

    good job sprint. the only network that performed under US’ average.

    • maximus1901

      Sprint’s network is not even done. Let’s talk in 9-10 months.

      • ronjon400

        people been saying that since 2004

      • bkin94

        yeah, that’s their fault. I mean, yes we can talk in 9-10 months, and without contracts, TMO customers are free to go if they offer better service, but based on Neville’s CES talk, i’m betting that in 9-10 months TMO will improve just as much as sprint if not more

        • maximus1901

          Sprint will cover 250mil on pcs lte in 9-10 months.
          Will TMo cover 250mil on AWS lte in 9-10 months?

        • TylerCameron

          Isn’t T-Mobile already at 220 million? 220-> 250 isn’t that big of a jump. Seems pretty doable given their performance last year. Going from 0-200+ wasn’t easy.

        • bkin94

          they are at 209 mil POPs. rate of expansion decreases as they expand to less populated areas. (they’ve alread gotten the “easy” markets that have millions of people). their goal for 2014 is 250 Mil+. they overshot their target last year by 9 million. If Sprint really does 250 in 9-10 months, Sprint would be slightly ahead

        • bkin94

          I’m sure they’ll talk about expansion plans today at the call.

        • Roger Sales

          Sprint told their customers they would have 250M by the end of last year and then even when they readjusted to 200M, still did not meet the deadline. T-Mobile has stated they want to reach 250M by the end of this year and they kept their word last year.
          Sprint backpeddling with their “we’re not done yet” argument is years old. Their customers have been waiting.

    • KingCobra

      Ironically the network named “Sprint” is the slowest.

    • ronjon400

      instead of sponsoring events they should take that cash and invest in their hardware.

  • Tmo Nicht

    Woo hoo… it is the only thing Tmobile has going for them at the moment, Speed. And that is only in major cities (if you are lucky). Other than that, they suck. I rather have slower speeds, but have both voice and usable data coverage everywhere I go.

    • Moby

      Then use another carrier than T-Mobile. I prefer paying less for the high LTE speeds I get now with T-Mobile.

    • Singleweird

      Tmobile doesn’t claim to be the best option for everybody.

    • KingCobra

      Well there’s the tradeoff. You can go to VZW or AT&T for better LTE coverage but get severely limited in how much of it you can actually use do to the data caps.

    • bkin94

      i count three reasons: a) they have low prices b) the high, reliable speeds in big cities and c) they are the only carrier doing anything to shake up the industry. I get horrible coverage, but the reasons a and be are enough to keep me on their network and recommend that others to do the same

  • Melissa Cardenas

    Not sure if its because theres a lot of people in the Us slowing down the networks . Because i was just in Mexico city which is one of the citys with the most people in the WORLD. Tried out my cousins galaxy 4 on telcels mexico lte, wow average speed at any time of the day even rush hours which are from 10 am to 1 pm 15 to 20 dwn, 10 to 20 up and at night speeds went up to 50 but i was shocked that during day hours it still maintained decent speed in the 20s. Obviously i on the other hand couldnt take advantage of those speeds because my tmobile xperia z1s was roaming on telcel and movistar and didnt pay for the speed boost lol.

    • maximus1901

      Cause there’s more people with LTE here.
      Mexicans prefer drugs to LTE phones.

      • Melissa Cardenas

        Thats funny but true in a way lol

  • TMOguy

    Many folks wonder when they will get increased bandwidth on LTE.. My advice – look in your market for how much AWS spectrum TMUS holds to understand how much you will get.

    One thing to understand – to run DC-HSPA+ (which gives the 42 Mb/S speed TMO advertised so heavily prior to LTE rollout) requires 20 mhz of AWS spectrum. One channel of HSPA is 5+5mhz (WCDMA channels are 5 mhz wide). DC (dual carrier) is two channels of HSPA+ which is 5+5 times 2 or 20 mhz. The dual carrier is how you get the 42Mb/s on HSPA. TMO is stil running that everywhere even with LTE.

    Here in Seattle, we just got 15+15 mhz LTE. I was like, dang – that’s great, but 20+20 would be cool like Dallas, TX. Then I looked at the Spectrum map – TMUS only has 50 mhz of AWS spectrum in Seattle. 20 of that is for DC-HSPA+. That only leaves 30 mhz left. Thus, 15+15 is all we’re ever gonna get.

    You can look at the spectrum map here: http://specmap.sequence-omega.net/

    Hopefully that helps answer some questions.

  • Michelle

    My average download speed is probably 1 mbps, and I’m being generous I usually score decimal values. LTE is great and all but get rid of edge first.

    • TMofanboy

      1Mb/s is really fast. your are probably getting close to 10 Mbits/s

      • Trevnerdio

        She’s probably referring to mbps. The speedtest app no longer measures in MB/s

  • tss

    Slow speeds in US are not because of clogging but because of the duopoly.

    • Singleweird

      can you expand?

      • bkin94

        this is what i think he means, not necessarily exact: there are only two big players in the US that have reliable coverage 99% of the time. as a result, they do not have ample incentive to improve their network or lower prices.

  • Diver Dan

    Speed means nothing if you drive out of the city and end up on EDGE or GPRS. I understand that there is not the business case for TMO to blanket the country with LTE. So give us HSPA along the interstate highway corridors. Upgrade the backhaul on your EDGE so that it is at least at full speed. Do something.

    I live in Illinois. Don’t tell me I have to wait for the frequency scraps, that TMO bought from Verizon, to come on line. There is no frequency spectrum in Illinois from this purchase.

    • Moby

      Then you should switch to another carrier who provides you with higher speeds.

    • maximus1901

      The basestations that TMO is using are capable of BOTH HSPA and LTE. If TMO installs HSPA and backhaul then adding LTE is a software update away. Sorry but if a TMO tower doesn’t have HSPA or LTE NOW then
      a) the only LTE you’re EVER gonna see is on 700a OR 600 MHz
      b) that ‘s not gonna happen for a looooong time.

      • Roger Sales

        They’ve stated 250M POPs for this year’s LTE Footprint, which is 21 million more people than are currently covered by 3G/HSPA+, so a lot of EDGE only area’s are going to be upgraded to both technologies.

    • art

      If other carriers offer better coverage for you then you should definitely switch to one of them. No matter how much TMo changes their rates, if they don’t offer good service then you are not getting a good deal.

      If I were in your situation, I’d definitely drop TMo even if I have to pay more with other carriers.

  • MiketheIke

    T-Mo’s LTE speeds here in Hawaii are abysmal. I get around 10-12 down and 5-6 up on a good day. Supposed to be the fastest but I’m not seeing it.

    • Roger Sales

      exactly what are you trying to do on your phone that can’t be serviced with those speeds?

    • Alex Cobb

      You do realize that you are seeing average speeds, right?

  • Alex Zapata

    This is good news, but I still want coverage along highways :-/

  • gr8gatzby

    3G HPSA+ is still faster than LTE 90% of the time.

    • Trevnerdio

      Really? I don’t think that’s ever been the case for me.

      • gr8gatzby

        Do some speed tests with your phone in 3G mode. My Nexus 5 has spent its life with LTE turned off.

        • bkin94

          I can definitely see myself doing that very thing. HSPA+ is more than fast enough for most uses, and i assume it uses less battery

    • Roger Sales

      Downlink possibly, but never uplink.

      • gr8gatzby

        Unless you’re running a porn server from your mobile device, downlink is all that matters.

        • Roger Sales

          You’ve never uploaded photos and videos to Facebook or social media? Trust me, that upload makes a difference when you do.

    • Dimitri Gatsiopoulos

      “4G” HSPA+. True story. My sister gets consistently faster speeds with her Amaze 4G vs my HTC One.

  • Eric00

    T-Mobile has pleasantly surprised me. I live in a very small city in California about a half hour away from Visalia and LTE has been popping up from time to time! Looks like it is in the testing stages. I am very excited! Visalia, Tulare, and Bakersfield are already blanketed and the speeds I’m averaging are 17-25 mbps.
    Also 4G coverage along highways has improved for me anyways. Still get edge from time to time but I’m glad to see they’re working outside of the cities!

    • JBLmobileG1

      My family and I are planning a trip to Disneyland in a few months. We live in Las Vegas now, so hopefully with Tmobile expanding and upgrading their network, we’ll see better speeds along the highway. I have Google Music and it would be nice to able to listen to it the whole way without interruption, since it streams. Edge unfortunately doesn’t cut it, just too slow. I just jumped to a Note 3 so hopefully it won’t let me down as far as signal strength goes… I guess we shall see. :)

  • Edwin

    I’m pretty pissed T-Mobile hasn’t fixed its issue up here in Chicago’s South Side, we have had NO SIGNAL since last Thursday, and when the signal dropped I was in the middle of an Exam that was open for 40 minutes and I was using the HotSpot on my iPhone. Tell me how, exactly am I suppose to make up for 30% of my stupid grade when i wasn’t able to submit my exam!!

    • windy city

      Here in the north side too. It’s been like this for months. Cicero and Fullerton 60639. LTE sucks in Chicago 4.8 download 0.78 upload. It’s been going on since June of 2013 4G is worst.

      • Edwin

        Yeah, i feel you. the first day i bought the iPhone it was blazing fast, after than it drags to open a simple page. My signal status has been steady on “searching” and “no service” for the last 3 days. My bill closed today too so lets see if they like it when i don’t pay them on time. yeah, they’ll call the credit bureau right away! slowly t-mobile has been losing my trust.

        • Dimitri Gatsiopoulos

          Because it’s an iPhone. My cousins have the same problem on ATT. One has an iPhone and the other has GS4 and the GS4 has faster dl speeds.

        • donnybee

          My iPhone gets faster speeds than my brother’s GS4 when they’re right next to eachother. We both have T-Mobile with unlimited data and LTE connectivity. Not sure what goes on at AT&T but they might need a new SIM card in their iPhone. Either that or AT&T restricts iPhones more..

          Either way, your generalization of all iPhones is incorrect.

        • anthony

          Same here. My iphone 5 is faster then my dads gs4

        • Just me

          For any one who reads. ..tmobile is a constant liar…I started with them last year when they started lte up grade in my area. .. Had to call every day mostly… Just to hear a different excuse from rep’s to supervisor. .. Every call was we need to trouble shot the problem. ..master reset blah blah blah is all I started to hear…trouble tickets have been filled give 24 to 72 hours for a resolution. . Hahaha. ….finally got tired of it…..started to hit them where it hurts. .. $$$$…. money. … Dam straight. … well never fix the problem. ..so I left and decided to wait to lte is complete. .. well I’m back and said to say. .. agin tmobile Sucks. …lte and 4g is great…. When you can get it. …downloads average about 4to8 down and 1to 2 up…. but now that lte is congested in my area…. Your lucky to get a connection….sad sad sad…. How a company can false advertise and brag when the fact is they suck… so I can never get a straight answer from tmobile at anytime. .. so I once agin hit them where it hurts. ..in the pockets. … not a problem solver but hey what can you do. …I suggest if enough ppl start asking for credit because of lack of service. … They’ll rush the work a lil quicker…my area has a estimated 6 months of work left to fix the congestion problem. ..great…..well good luck to everyone on this great tmobile network. …NOT….

          Galveston tx

      • PiCASSiMO

        Got cool EDGE signal in Glenview, IL (Willow and Pfingsten) over the weekend.

    • PiCASSiMO

      Got cool EDGE signal in Glenview, IL (Willow and Pfingsten)…

      • anthony

        I live in gurnee and a get lte in pretty much all if the lake county area.

  • Dimitri Gatsiopoulos

    Intresting enough, I get consistent speeds over 20Mbps. Always. This is in Denver. Why is the average so low? My cousins get about 10 on AT&T. The funny thing is my sister still uses the Amaze 4G (HSPA+) and she still gets over 20Mbps also. Always been that way. Sucks T-Mobile had to switch that quickly to LTE because of marketing and Verizon and ATT brain washing the general public. HSPA+ was faster than there LTE.

    Tmo just needs to stay ahead of the game. I love how they re-branded the Even More plus from several years ago and made it the only option to choose for a plan. Now just build a tower near my restaurant. We sit at the edge of 2 towers and no one gets reception. It’s all carriers but if you guys build one then it would be great, lease the tower out to the other carriers. At least I have we have WiFi calling.

    • TylerCameron

      It’s cheaper to provide data over LTE, and LTE is also more efficient with the spectrum.

  • Eric00

    Can’t wait until they put the new spectrum to use! Yesterday I was driving to the store in LA and I happened to pass by a T-Mobile store and goodness was it packed! Watch out Sprint, we’re coming for you!

  • PiCASSiMO

    Please focus on cleaning up the 3G and especially EDGE spots in METROPOLITAN areas! I’ve experienced a sh*t hole in Glenview, IL over the weekend (Willow and Pfingsten) along with plenty of 3G (no-HSPA or LTE) coverage in this Chicago suburban area.

    I’m seriously considering jumping ship to AT&T for the sake of coverage, as my wife complains to me the lack of data when she’s trying to listen to Spotify music.