(Updated) T-Mobile’s LTE Network Gets Official Trial Run As LTE Update Releases For Galaxy Note II

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Update: T-Mobile’s support page for the Samsung Galaxy Note II now includes the latest update. 

T-Mobile’s LTE network is beginning to show some signs of life as a number of sites just posted some hands-on results conducted in New York City last week. That means some good news for Galaxy Note II owners as the long-awaited LTE software update finally rolls out beginning today.

The tests, conducted by The Verge, Engadget, LaptopMag and CNET, we’re getting a first look at what the network is truly capable of. There’s a caveat of course, that all of these tests are running on microcells with absolutely no traffic on it so real-world speeds will be theoretically be slower with thousands of customers on a tower at any given time. As was case with the HSPA+ rollout, the use of new tower equipment along the necessary LTE hardware should result in better coverage for everyone says T-Mobile Product Management Director Randy Meyerson. That’s good news for customers who may choose to ignore T-Mobile’s first round of LTE handsets as improved coverage is always welcome.

As for those of you looking for the BlackBerry Z10, T-Mobile’s first LTE-ready BlackBerry, that’s still on the calendar before the end of March. The carrier says LTE is ready in both Las Vegas and Kansas City and all that’s left is flipping the switch allowing customers officially on the network. With the promise of a network that covers 200 million people with LTE before the end of 2013, T-Mobile’s rollout is bound to ramp up quickly.

As for the speeds themselves, LaptopMag was able to hit download speeds as high as 58.8Mbps, with uploads running as high as 25.5Mbps. Engadget faired a little better pushing above the 60Mbps mark hitting a high of 62.13Mbps and a download high of 25.67Mbps. Overall, speeds appeared to average well into the high 50’s on the download and in the high trends on the upload side. Remember the earlier caveat though. a

One major advantage for T-Mobile’s LTE network and a selling point the company will certainly use when it rolls out its rumored “Dual 4G” marketing later this year is HSPA+ 42Mbps as a fallback. The ability to fall back on speeds that T-Mobile has long claimed rival competitor LTE networks is an advantage T-Mobile will attempt to use against the likes of Verizon.

For now, T-Mobile highlights that its LTE network will be focused on measured adoption, with an emphasis on higher-end handsets focusing on the technically savvy, media heavy-set of customers. As for how long it will take before T-Mobile has their LTE network rolled out to more than two cities? That’s a great question that T-Mobile is playing coy with answering. With plans to have 100 million customers cover in LTE before summer, we’re certain we’ll find more cities lighting up in the near future.

The Verge, Engadget, LaptopMag, CNET

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  • kev2684

    wait what? today? when where how?

    • Read the article.

      They were using LTE microcells to show journalists a proof of concept.

      • What he said.

        • colombiatulua

          David wich are the frequency that tmobile is going to use for LTE??

        • iansltx

          AWS. Same as pieces of CricKet/MetroPCS. Verizon will be there soon. AT&T may already be there in a couple places. Sprint is not there. Verizon and AT&T’s main networks are not there.

        • colombiatulua

          but band IV is it 700MHZ??? And most of ATT phones had band 4 l 17.

        • iansltx

          700 != 1700/2100. AT&T and Verizon’s primary LTE deployments are, and will remain, on 700MHz. AWS will only get used for capacity augmentation. Whereas T-Mobile’s entire network will run in that band.

        • colombiatulua

          The htc one show that it will be on 700 AWS MHZ and also ATT.

          NETWORK2

          HSPA/WCDMA:

          Europe/Asia: 850/900/1900/2100 MHz

          GSM/GPRS/EDGE:

          850/900/1800/1900 MHz

          LTE:

          EU: 800/1800/2600 MHz

          US (AT&T): 700/850/AWS/1900 MHz

          US (TMO): 700/AWS MHz

          US (Sprint): 1900 MHz

          Asia: 1800/2600 Mhz

          I found the on HTC WEB SIDE.

          http://www.htc.com/us/smartphones/htc-one/#specs

        • NYCTheBronx

          Exactly. So it doesn’t matter unless you’re in an area where it’s covered. If you choose to buy an unlocked AT&T HTC One for example, make sure it will run under T-Mobile’s band and what class is it specified under because you may walk in a lot of dead zones.

        • NYCTheBronx

          T-Mobile will be using only one 4G LTE frequency which is AWS band IV. While AT&T uses two which are band 17 I believe and very selective areas of band IV. T-Mobile is using the same frequency as Canada’s carrier Roger’s AWS band IV. That’s why 4G LTE will not work on the LG Google Nexus 4 for AT&T users before they had the 4.2.2 Nexus update. Only Canada Rogers were able to run 4G LTE on the LG Google Nexus 4. T-Mobile can run it to when their 4G LTE is out. Just wait if Google ever brings back the option to use 4G LTE on the LG Google Nexus 4 or you can root it and install a ROM that downgrades you back to 4.2.1 to have the ability to access 4G LTE on the LG Google Nexus 4. Hope this helps.

  • sushimane

    Thats nice too know I dont really care for lte hspa+42 is fast enough for me hitting speed of 21mpbs download and upload 3mpbs in Spartanburg, sc the note2 was more bang for the bu. When I cqmcame between nexus 4 so I got it

    • NYCTheBronx

      I hear 4G LTE is supposed to help the ping/latency. Meaning you would load your internet browsers faster. Hopefully we don’t see any more 500+ ping for T-Mobile phones on speed test. Hopefully the ping is under 40 so we don’t have to wait for our internet browers to load too long when we aren’t in a Wi-Fi ranged area.

      • TBN27

        Just letting you know that the ping on the reframed part of the network is between 40 and 50.

        • NYCTheBronx

          I get that sometimes and as low as 32 and 37 but half of the time I get 500+ ping and sometimes even 1,000.

        • bugmenaught

          I’m not sure if this is the reason, but on Android it switches to HSPA when it’s not using data and then once you start using data it goes to HSPA+, so that may be why the ping is so high. Normally if I get a 500 ping and then immediately redo my speed test it goes down to something like 50.

        • NYCTheBronx

          I’ve noticed that too but it’s the opposite. I have HSPA+ and then when I ran Speed test, it changes to HSPA and that messes up my ping really really bad. Last night when I finally updated my Samsung Galaxy Note II and took my micro sim card out of my Nexus 4, I’ve noticed on my Note II the ping was getting better. Around 40-50 ping. Sometimes my phone would get 100+ and it irritates me. But now I’ve tested it a few times and it seems my ping has improved.

      • sushimane

        is that what Ping is for?

        • achusaysblessyou

          Ping is how long it takes from the point you send the “ping” to the server and get a response back. So if you have a 500ms ping, then every command you send, the server sees it in 250ms, and you get a response 500ms after you sent your request. Now of course ping also accounts for server processing, meaning, if you have 500ms ping, and the server takes 100ms to issue a response, then in reality it takes 200ms for a server to get your message, and whoever owns that server needs to upgrade or write better code.

        • sushimane

          thanks

        • NYCTheBronx

          In a way.

  • OD

    so I’m on the latest update for my note 2. and i just plugged it into kies and its updating, so if you want to just update through kies.

    • sushimane

      what is kies?

      • This will answer your question: http://bit.ly/114WT9j

      • eanfoso

        I really hope you don’t own a Galaxy device

        • Wilma Flintstone

          @eanfoso:disqus Why couldn’t you just simply answer their question instead of trying to belittle them?

          @2b151c65e95291d525b3b487d3eb1b3d:disqus Kies is a service that Samsung uses to update their android devices.

        • sushimane

          oh thanks tmobile note 2 have so many bloatware i dont know whats whats

        • sushimane

          yoo dont need to be a smart ass im use to ota updates from tmobile but kies is like itunes thing to update. so theres two ways to update the note 2 to unlock the lte chip

  • Aurizen

    hope LTE in philly comes soon. and LTE enabled for iphone 5 soon.

  • Wow, we have LTE here in Iowa, and I’ve never hit speeds that high, I have topped out at around 19mbps

    • +1 for NOH8 mate.

      • I just see it more as a common sense thing.

        I don’t see why the NOH8 thing is a big deal…I mean, I get what they do. I’ve thought long and hard about why NOH8 is needed. I still can’t understand why they have to come in to play to support the LGBT population! Maybe it comes from being an athiest.

        But a +1 for supporting it at least!

  • g2a5b0e

    Wow. Those speeds are making me salivate. Checking for the update now!

    EDIT: Nothing yet. :-(

    EDIT 2: Downloading now!

    • Matt

      do the update on Samsung kies the update is on Samsung kies right now!

      • g2a5b0e

        Eh. Not necessary. It’s not like the LTE is on yet in my area anyway. No need to rush. As long as it arrives before I get the Note 3 at the end of the year, I’ll be satisfied.

  • Alex Zapata

    This network is still in its infancy so I’m gonna take this with a grain of salt. Chances are it will be a lot faster as it matures and as LTE advanced hardware starts hitting the market. Only time will tell though.

    • iansltx

      Actually, in most places that’s about as fast as LTE will get for T-Mobile. LTE-A only impacts upstream speeds, unless you have more spectrum to carrier-aggregate with. T-Mobile may be able to double these speeds (or nearly so) where they deploy 20×20 LTE, but they don’t have the spectrum to do that in many places at this point.

      • Alex Zapata

        I just realized that you got me on that one. Those very high speeds are really going depend on available spectrum and network traffic. That being said I hope they make sure the network can impress and be reliable. That will be a top selling point. Like I said, we’ll see how things turn out, but I’m hoping for the best.

    • NYCTheBronx

      Australia and Cricket here in the U.S. are already talking about working and releasing their 4G LTE Advanced network. T-Mobile was testing their 4G LTE Advanced last summer at Austria and they were able to get 287mbps on download speeds. Search it on Google. Plus I’ve been hearing that T-Mobile might just skip releasing 4G LTE and just release 4G LTE Advanced. Sounds far fetch but that’s a small rumour going on for a few months now. If T-Mobile does release 4G LTE Advanced then I would be very happy lol.

  • scarfacemario

    Great news for everyone ill be on the lookout for the update thanks a lot David.

  • tomarone

    What should matter very much is the ping response. (as well as better penetration of walls)

    • NYCTheBronx

      Agreed.

  • melon3531

    Can’t wait to give it a go here in NYC once the HTC One arrives!

  • Downloading now.. But there is no LTE in the Orlando area that I know of

  • jim

    release the GS5 now

    • NYCTheBronx

      Don’t you mean Google Nexus 5? There probably won’t even be a Samsung Galaxy S V but if there is, then next year. Samsung releases only one S flagship lineup a year. Unlike HTC last year where their flagships were the HTC One X and HTC One S. This year only HTC One.

  • iansltx

    So basically T-Mobile will, at the outset of its LTE network, have the same speeds that Verizon had at the outset of its LTE network.

    Not that that’s a bad thing…T-Mobile’s 10×10 LT in AWS will not get bogged down like Verizon LTE in 700MHz has, because T-Mobile cells will be smaller. But if you’re looking for speeds that are far and away faster than the competition, Verizon actually might beat T-Mobile to deploying 20×20 LTE in AWS, at which point T-Mobile will no longer be the fastest LTE network in the US (in the areas where they’re dpeloyed at 10×10).

    • Alex Zapata

      Pretty much. That being said I hope the big wigs at t-mobile are smart enough to realize that 20×20 LTE is the best route to go if they really want to one up the competition. That’s assuming they have the spectrum available.

      • NYCTheBronx

        Even if they did have the spectrums available, they don’t have as much money as Verizon that charges their subscribers $140 a month for unlimited text and calls and a max cap of 10 GB. And they charge them overfees for going 1GB over their data limit like AT&T. While T-Mobile charges less for unlimited everything including data for $77 for 20 months then $55 after those 20 months. Money is the problem here.

      • joe shmoe

        That is the plan. But need Metro deal to close so there is enough spectrum to do it. It has nothing to do with cost. We are building a network capable of 20×20. The hardware will be in place. When we have enough spectrum it will be activated.

    • spritemoney

      That’s because Verizon actually has money to buy 20 x 20 LTE in AWS.

      • iansltx

        T-Mobile will have 20×20 AWS is the MetroPCS purchase goes through.

  • daniel212

    Great now I just wished they fix up there network in los Angeles, getting tired of having full hspa coverage standing outside then having the phone switch back n forth edge n hspa all while standing on the same spot. Then u walk down the wrong street u on edge. As much as I hate AT&T n Verizon cuz I had them before they offer a better experience in LA. Verizon users RARELY 3G evdo cuz Verizon has lte everywhere , and at&t users rarely see edge cuz at&t has 3G everywhere even outside the city were tmobile only has gsm/edge.

  • M42

    We don’t even have 3G or HSPA 4G and here they are rubbing our noses in LTE.

    • Jose Hernandez

      I have amazing HSPA coverage. 25MBPS down and 5MBP up. I don’t know where you are, but T-Mobile does have the advertised speeds. If they don’t on your area, you can wait for the upgrade to happen on your area or you can switch to another carrier. Form other posts, you seem to have a problem with T-Mobile and their service, you may want to consider switching to a carrier that can provide you with better service for your money.

      • Dion Mac

        Finally, somebody said it

      • NYCTheBronx

        That’s insane upload speeds my friend. Well to me that is. I only get 3.6 on uploads as my max. What state and city do you live in?

  • Bill Smith

    Supposedly Las Vegas was fired up with LTE awhile back, but after I DL the update to my Note 2, no change in speeds from 4G.

    • NYCTheBronx

      Read a few of David’s post back. T-Mobile said they got Las Vegas and Kansas City covered with their 4G LTE. We’re just waiting for T-Mobile to officially release their 4G LTE network. Hopefully by the time they sell the Blackberry Z10 LTE on March 27, we have 4G LTE. If not, I hope by the time the Samsung Galaxy S IV is released which I hear in the end of April.

    • Bronze 6

      The CELL TOWERS won’t let you on that 4g lte network. So basically one thje cell towers let you on, then you can use the 4G LTE.

  • NYCTheBronx

    Goodness! What great news! Finally, somemore 4G LTE testing and with T-Mobile’s 4G LTE symbol in the pics on this post! Any day now, we’ll be running 4G LTE with those amazing speeds! Alright! Can’t wait to get it on my Note II, One X and Nexus 4. And I can’t wait to get my hands on a Samsung Galaxy S IV and a Google Nexus 5. I took a screenshot of my HTC One X running 4G LTE. The speedtest wasn’t impressive with only 13mbps download. The in Kansas got about the same on Thole’s 4G LTE, 13mbps download and the other day the guy in New York City got about 17mbps on T-Mobile’s 4G LTE. Now today, we find out there are more 4G LTE testing at New York and other cities while the guys today got 50-70mbps on T-Mobile’s 4G LTE and that isn’t the official yet. Imagine when T-Mobile finally releases 4G LTE? The download and upload speeds and ping/latency would be better. Make us proud T-Mobile Magenta. Going to wait for 4G LTE. =)

  • luis

    I youst check no updte

  • Wilma Flintstone

    This isn’t completely truth.

    Yes these speeds stand as of now but once LTE gets released for more devices and more people start taking up bandwidth, these speeds will drop.

    You’ll still get more speed than you’ll most likely need (This is considering that TMobile doesn’t slow you down) so this is still good.

    I’m expecting around 25Mbps on average which is much more than I’ll need.

    • Dion Mac

      Wilma, I pretty sure I remember David saying that the speeds are based on microcells that are empty so are not real world scenarios.

    • Zero0

      I expect download speeds a little better than HSPA+ and much faster upload and ping speeds once the network starts to fill up.

      Once 20×20 LTE goes up, speeds almost this high shouldn’t be unrealistic, though.

    • That’s funny because where I work, I can consistently get between 20-23Mbps on HSPA+ but only 2-3 up. Yes, I am lucky.

  • rfgenerator

    Meanwhile large swaths of T-Mobile’s network remains basically unusuable for data as they are relegated to an eternity of EDGE or even worse GPRS

    • Dion Mac

      In other news, hoards of people gives you a thumbs down!

    • NYCTheBronx

      Rofl. Where have you been? This past couple of months T-Mobile was modernizing and reframing a lot of their Edge network to their HSPA+ network. So when you’re in an area that supports that frequency, you won’t fall back on Edge but still stay on HSPA+. If you don’t like T-Mobile then leave. Enjoy paying $130+ a month on AT&T and Verizon. LOL.

      • iansltx

        My main phone is Sprint. As of Thursday, my parents’ town (~10k population) is served fully by exactly one LTE carrier: Sprint. T-Mobile has GPRS there. There’s a reason why my S III is on Sprint.

        • superg05

          okay this is not a sprint news site

        • iansltx

          Which is why I mainly post on s4gru, not here. All I’m doing is dispelling the notion that T-Mobile has TEH MOST AMAZING 4GS EVAR everywhere they serve. I wish they did…that way I could use my Nexus 4 more (I am using it on a data-only plan). But they don’t. And it looks bad when you’re taking potshots at “number three” when in reality your network is far inferior in a number of areas.

        • superg05
        • superg05

          i get 21mbps speeds on Hspda+ posted link but needs moderation so you have to wait to see for yourself every network has strengths and weakness yours has more than mine but that’s there fault if they try harder which there supposedly doing now the rest of the country minus your area wouldn’t be so put off by with them

        • Sprint’s “3G” in many places has similar speeds to T-Mobile Edge data. They’re the worst carrier of the four in my opinion. I really don’t know how they’re even in third place.

        • NYCTheBronx

          Sorry to hear that then.

      • samsavoy

        I wish people would understand this. They are not refarming their EDGE network. They are refarming their existing HSPA+ sites. No 2G cell site is getting upgraded. They’re simply going around to their *existing* 3G sites, moving the frequency to the PCS band and installing LTE-capable equipment.

        • NYCTheBronx

          Thanks for informing me.

  • helpMe

    I really want to switch my home Internet to T-Mobile LTE with the Sonic LTE.. Does anyone know how I can get my desktop to work with that? Do I just get an USB stick to get the hotspot signal from the Somic LTE?

    P.s this is just an option but I was wondering if anyone could recommend cheap home Internet service that’s fast. I am sick of AT&T and their 2 Mbps Internet :(

    • NYCTheBronx

      It’s wireless my friend. Just like how you would bring a Wi-Fi device (smart phone or tablets laptops etc.) It would connect right away as soon as you hook up to it. McDonald’s and Starbuck’s have Wi-Fi. You purchase the T-Mobile 4G LTE with a contract. As I know, there isn’t any unlimited data available for T-Mobile mobile hotspot devices. The only ones available are 5GB and 10GB of high speed data with the ability to share that data to up to 5 or 10 devices. Check it out on the T-Mobile website. The Sonic 2.0 4G LTE is wireless. Hope this helps buddy. Just purchase one and tell T-Mobile you want the service you want.

    • tomarone

      Rather than use a USB stick I just buy one of these (there are better ones for more $) a RT-N12 as a ‘repeater’ and plug into the ethernet of that.

      • helpme

        Okay this is the answer I was looking for.. Thanks :-)

  • Im all updated… But of course no LTE here in Orlando..:/

  • TechHog

    YEEEEEEESSSSSSS! I wonder if this is the reason for me not getting data today loo

    • lovingmyGN2

      Yea there was a blackout and I’m guessing this was the reason.

    • SavyTechNYC

      yes, there was a black out this morning in NY, no data for 4 hours. Just updated firmware, LTE is now in settings under mobile network, I have Galaxy Note 2.

  • TechHog

    It’s not showing an update for me. WTF

  • Clarkkent113

    Yum.

  • lovingmyGN2

    No wonder the was a blackout today here in New York City. I’m surprised nobody mentioned it.

  • lovingmyGN2

    I can’t use kait. Is there any other way I can get the lte update? My plan is the $70 unlimited monthly 4g, does that matter?

  • I’ve been a T-Mobile customer for years, I also have an account with Verizon with their unlimited data. The LTE speeds have dropped so slow in my area (suburb of Boston) I put my account on hold (limbo with no bill for 3 months) to see if the speeds get better. If they don’t I will drop them. My T-Mobile HSPA+ account gets me on average 16 to 25mb down and 3 to 4.5mb up during the day, faster at night. Blows Verizon’s LTE away. I have nothing but great things to say about T-Mobile. People always say the reason to go to T-Mobile is the price, they do have great prices but I stay with T-Mobile for the service. They are the best IMO.

    • bleeew

      Me too. When I got their first LTE phone in 2011 I was getting 20Mbps down. Now I barely reach 14Mbps down. The upload is faster than my download at 21Mbps.

    • I agree. I have an iPhone 5 on Verizon and notice that LTE is usually only around 15mbps down maximum. I have faster HSPA+ on T-Mobile with my One S in many places. LTE does have better penetration into buildings though and is faster rural areas.

    • Nathan B.

      Hmm..I have Verizon in Lansing, Michigan and I get 25-30 mbps.

  • guest

    will the ativ s from canada run on att or tmobiles lte

  • SavyTechNYC

    Just updated firmware on Galaxy Note 2, LTE is now in settings, under mobile network. Magenta! Awesome!

  • steve1026

    Anyone know when LTE will be turned on in Wichita, KS? Its only about 3 hours from KC, KS? Or do you happen to have any inside info on this @davidtmonews:disqus

  • guest

    will the ativ s from canada run on att or tmobiles lte

  • qpinto

    And I reverted to the .33 radio on my n4. I’m ready..

    • Guest

      I just haven’t accepted the update on my Nexus 4. After I update, is it easy to install the old radio?

      • qpinto

        As long as you are rooted it’s cake.

        • Qbancelli

          I’m not messing with the radio on my phone.

        • qpinto

          Well then no unoffical LTE on your n4 if you updated to 4.2.2…

  • mreveryphone

    Quad core and LTE. …….This note 2 should fly! Kansas City is ready. Now I won’t get any more work done today cause I’ll be checking my phone!

  • chris

    Just installed via kies boot animation is very nice but what did the update actually do?

    • SavyTechNYC

      LTE is now in settings , mobile network, customization of the notification settings

  • Freddie Lopez

    So has anyone found any hidden new features/enhancement?! Besides LTE!

    • SavyTechNYC

      you can now customize the notification settings,

      • NYCTheBronx

        Yay! Now I can get rid of the notifications I don’t like. What about the ability to hide the birghtness control on the notification tray?

        • tonkotsu

          that too, go to:
          settings->display->notification panel->uncheck brightness

          though it looks mightly empty without that there lol

        • NYCTheBronx

          True but I use power toggles. It’s a good widget. :D I might go re-open a new YouTube channel again just to upload phone vids just for fun lol. I had two channels before but I closed them down.

  • edfranco1

    Does anyone have the Note 2 update yet? I am eagerly awaiting this… hehehe I have good speed in the late night hours and 11 mpbs being the fastest ever.. the average daily speed i see on t-mobile is 3 – 4 – 5 mbps (Average).

    • chris

      I think it’s a Kies only download

  • steve1026

    Does anyone know when Wichita, KS LTE will be turned on? Or do you know anything @davidtmonews:disqus

  • Bill Smith

    Beginning March 18, the Samsung Galaxy Note II will receive a
    software update to Android version 4.1.2/ Software T889UVBMB4 via Over The Air
    (OTA) and Samsung Kies. This update introduces LTE compatibility and other
    device improvements. Though LTE compatibility is available in the Note II with
    the software update, the T-Mobile 4G LTE network is not available at this time
    but will be coming soon.

  • MatthewMurawski

    YES! Can’t wait to get my LTE ready Galaxy S4.

  • steve1026

    Does anyone know when LTE will be turned on in Wichita?

  • HeatFan786

    Will the S3 T999 get LTE?

    • TechHog

      No.

      • HeatFan786

        What about speed boosts for HSPA+? Anything planned for that?

        • TechHog

          Not possible. That would require new hardware. It’s not possible to just upgrade stuff like that if the hardware isn’t already there. Besides that, T-Mobile won’t upgrade HSPA+ beyond what it is now, period.

        • HeatFan786

          Looks like I am getting an LTE Nexus or Google X Phone. I doubt I will get the Galaxy S4 or a Note 2. I have the S3 and no incentive to upgrade to those. Only if the speeds are dramatically faster and worth the sticker price minus the difference from the profit I make off my S3.

        • TechHog

          You also have the HTC One, BlackBerry Z10, and iPhone 5/5S as future LTE options

        • HeatFan786

          Nah, the One is nice and all but it is a unibody design with a weak battery. I will pass on Blackberry OS because of the hardware being a generation back. And I don’t like iOS on phones.

    • NYCTheBronx

      Nope. That’s why they are selling a Revamped 4G LTE version of the Samsung Galaxy S III around March 27 or April 3rd. Look it up a few posts back.

  • T-Mobile LTE speeds look comparable to those of AT&T. Faster than Verizon and Sprint. That HSPA+42 fallback will be pretty nice indeed.

  • lovingmyGN2

    WTF? I just went to the tmobile site: http://support.t-mobile.com/docs/DOC-4962 and it says ota update is ready but when I go to do it on my phone it says your device is up to date and it won’t let me? Can someone explain?I don’t have a pc so I can’t do it threw kies. Sucks! I wanna test the pockets of lte in nyc that might be available.

    • it will update over time. just updated mine over kies and will see. not sure if So Calif has LTE yet. sure it doesn’t

      • NYCTheBronx

        It does have 4G LTE. I live in the bay area and my unlocked HTC One X ran 4G LTE a week and a half ago. It only popped up in few selective areas I was in. I even ran a speedtest and got a screenshot of it. I just finished updating my Samsung Galaxy Note II. When I have time this week, I:ll go around the city trying to ind a 4G LTE area.

  • Justin

    anybody know if LTE is good in north texas or dallas? thanks

  • I just got the update. Does anyone know how we can tell if we are on LTE. I noticed the 4G logo has changed. Also, outside my house, where I normally got 3/0.5Mbps, I am now getting 8/1Mbps. Probably coincidence….

    • NYCTheBronx

      My darn samsung kies won’t open on my laptop! Nice my friend. How do you update? I tried looking for it on the T-Mobile website but nothing. =/

      • I had to do Kies because I seem to always be at the end of the list when it comes to OTAs. I had trouble getting Kies to work at first, it looked like it kept hanging, but it eventually loaded, detected the new FW, downloaded for about 30 minutes and then updated. The new splash screen says 4G LTE, which was pretty cool!

        • NYCTheBronx

          The first time I got Kies on my laptop it worked good. I exchanged my Samsung Galaxy S III for a Samsung Galaxy Note II about three motnhs ago. Since T-Mobile sent the exynos patch update for the Samsung Galaxy Note II, I’ve been having trouble updating my phone. It says update and I click update and when it’s done and says 100% the Samsung Kies just closes down as if I exited out and I check my Note II and it isn’t updated as if I never tried updating it? This happened to me about 3-5 times when I did the exynos patch update a couple months back. I don’t remember how I got the update to finally get on my phone but today I am having the same problem trying to update my Samsung Galaxy Note II’s firmware. I wasnt 4G LTE and new customized notifications so bad. =/ I even updated my kies today.

        • Genecio

          What version of Windows do you have (if at all)? If it’s Windows 7 64bit then you’ll have to put kiesagent.exe into compatibility mode and run as administrator.

    • NYCTheBronx

      Look at the picture above. We do have 4G LTE depending what Stateaand city we live in. People in Kansas City and New York City have been seeing 4G LTE on their T-Mobile and unlocked phones. I’ve had 4G LTE a week band a half ago when I bought and unlocked my friend’s AT&T HTC One X. Only a few selective areas I was getting 4G LTE. I’ll post a video on YouTube for people to see later today. The update is a sign my friend. I feel that T-Mobile could finally release 4GvLTE this month or before the Samsung Galaxy S IV hits the U.S. I just hope this month since T-Mobile advertised selling the Blackberry Z10 on March 27 with 4G LTE on board but now T-Mobile is saying LTE ready. I don’t know why they changed their statement. Same goes for the HTC One. T-Mobile stated that the HTC One would be 4G LTE ready and yet T-Mobile doesn’t have it yet and they’re still lagging rolling out their 4G LTE network. =/ But everyday is a new and different day. Who knows, we can get 4G LTE tonight or tomorrow right? =)

    • Chimphappyhour

      I don’t think it is on yet for the regular people. I’m in KC and I’m not seeing anything different yet.

    • AM Gone

      Go to your display settings and uncheck Smart Stay

      • Marcelo_L

        That doesn’t work for some. Unless you also uncheck Smart Rotation as well.

    • mdosu

      It shows in this article’s screenshot. For Samsung phones, “LTE” will display under the new “4G” logo. http://www.tmonews.com/2013/03/t-mobiles-lte-network-gets-official-trial-run-as-lte-update-releases-for-galaxy-note-ii/screen-shot-2013-03-18-at-9-32-13-am/

  • mdosu

    My Note 2 doesn’t detect the update via OTA. Are there any issues with my phone? I know I can do this via Kies, but not sure why my phone software won’t detect it.

    • NYCTheBronx

      Hey pal, my phone didn’t detect it either which made me a little sad but when I plugged it on my laptop and opened up Samsung Air Kies it said new firmware update available. I updated my phone and it looks real nice. Give it a go!

  • Irfan

    I think if u have AT&T galaxy s 3 u can get band 4 on t mobile LTE … And few places reform 1900mhz 3G .

  • Cool! Going to update now

  • superg05

    t-mobile has 850 for edge wouldn’t it be better than 1900 at building
    penetration for hspda+ or lte if they modernized it in some areas not
    all but there spectrum they estimated unused but i know its targeted at ship
    jumpers, unlocked phones and iPhone users but still ….
    they probably will eventually when they get enough people off edge since there very efficient

    • Get_at_Me

      T-MO has very little 850mhz spectrum actually

  • mdosu

    Just updated to 4.1.2. Did anyone notice the new 4G LTE boot screen?!?! Awesome, can’t wait.

    • NYCTheBronx

      It took me 3 hours to update and yes, I’ve noticed the new 4G LTE animation and I was very excited to see that. Now we know 4G LTE should be out any day now. :D

      • Marcelo_L

        3 hours to do the phone update ? Can anyone else confirm this is how long it takes to do through Kies ?

        • AM Gone

          took me about 30 minutes total.

        • mreveryphone

          Is the little eye tracking icon staying on in the notification bar?

        • thepanttherlady

          It did for me but you can uncheck Smart Stay in settings to remove it.

        • mreveryphone

          I did and it’s still there

        • Marcelo_L

          Yeah, methinks there’s a bug in the evil eye code……

        • thepanttherlady

          Big brother ;)

        • thepanttherlady

          Took me around 15 minutes.

    • Get_at_Me

      Just noticed this! Love it.

    • ChitChatCat

      The new boot screen is awesome!

      • Marcelo_L

        Nice, but I miss my launching Android ! :(

        • ChitChatCat

          Maybe he’s still there, he’s just too fast to see on LTE ;)

    • mdosu

      I have a theory why some owners have to use Kies and other gets the notice through OTA. It’s either telephone number or phone location dependent. So if you’re likely in a LTE launch city, then you’ll get the OTA. I’m not sure if it’s telephone number specific, or whether TMO can just detect where your phone is. I have a Columbus, Ohio number but operate the phone in Washington DC.

      • Chimphappyhour

        Nah, it isn’t the location. I live in KC and it took me two days to get the update OTA. It was a bit like getting a sled for Christmas and no snow though as the LTE isn’t on yet.

        • mdosu

          so you confirmed my theory. You’re in a LTE launch city and therefore you got it through OTA. I’m not, so I didn’t get the prompt.

        • Chimphappyhour

          Nope, doesn’t confirm your theory at all. It took me two days to get it. I know people in non-launch cities that got it day one OTA.

    • mdosu

      T-Mobile has already adjusted their webpage to reflect LTE-ready phones for purchase (look for the LTE checkbox). Of course the only phone under that category is the Note 2.

  • Shanesha

    I got mines!

    • Antdog

      mines? What kind of mines? Gold? Silver?

  • Richard Yarrell

    I am definitely waiting for this update. It’s great to know that here in New York City LTE will be ready real soon.

    • lovingmyGN2

      Hey yarrell haven’t seen you in a while. Your pretty popular, your name even pops out in other sites. Haters will be haters, F them.

    • NYCTheBronx

      Hey buddy, are you talking about the 4G LTE and 4.1.2 update for the Samsung Galaxy Note II? If you’re, then just plug your phone in your computer and use Samsung Air Kies to update it. I had to plug my phone in too because from the settings it said my phone was up to date even though it was 4.1.1 and when Kies found my Note II it said new firmware update. There’s a new T-Mobile 4G LTE boot IP animation now and the 4G logo looks different. Plus you get to customize the notification bar and get rid of the toggles you don’t like and put in the quick toggles you do like. And the ability to hide the brightness slider. And I’ve noticed my Samsung Galaxy Note II has gotten a little snappier especially closing open apps with the home button. The folders look different as well. I haven’t noticed anything else brand new but only those I just listed above. Yeah man, can’t wait for 4G LTE to finally come out forb T-Mobile. We’ll be seing our competition in the dust lol.

  • ChitChatCat

    Well, I have my new firmware and my shiny new 4G logo, but no LTE switched on in my part of DC. Hopefully as I move around town I’ll hit some LTE testing and get some awesome speed test results to post.

  • James

    Hopefully it will work with our current sim cards as well. I know when they add features (wifi calling) or change things on the network, in order for the features to work proper we always had to go in for a sim chip swap.

  • Marcelo_L

    One thing I’ve noticed that is probably going to be annoying to people, and may turn out to be a bug is that the “Evil Eye” is now always on. It used to only be one when you rotated the phone, or if you tiled it, but now it’s on constantly.

    Anyone else experience this with theirs after the upgrade ?

    Anyone know if there’s setting that has to be changed ?

    • Bill Smith

      Go to Display in Settings uncheck Smart stay.

      • Marcelo_L

        Nope, it’s still on for me…… I have to rurn off Smart Rotation as well.

  • Chimphappyhour

    Looks like there might be other small tweaks here and there. When I type a text, I get the normal suggested words but now they put the best guess in the center and highlighter in blue. That’s in either the normal text app and the G-Voice app.

  • monchis

    What about Los angeles? :'(