T-Mobile Lights Up 10 More Modernized Markets, Brings Total To 15

T-Mobile’s continued efforts to modernize the company’s 1900MHz spectrum continues today with the announcement of 10 more markets. These areas include Miami; Phoenix; San Francisco; Mesa and Tucson, Ariz.; Modesto, Oakland, San Jose and Stockton, Calif.; and Fort Lauderdale, Fla. Oh yes, South Florida, excuse me for a moment while I do my happy dance.

Customers who live in these areas will “benefit from enhanced voice and data coverage, and faster speeds on unlocked devices to connect with friends and family. Customers in these metro areas can also bring their unlocked AT&T smartphones to T-Mobile, and experience a significant speed boost on our 4G network, while also saving up to $50/month compared to AT&T*!”

All totaled, T-Mobile’s modernized network count stands at 15 total markets as Baltimore, Houston, Kansas City, Las Vegas and Washington D.C. have also gone live in recent weeks. T-Mobile says that work continues in Boston, Chicago, Los Angeles, Minneapolis, the New York metro area, Philadelphia, San Diego and Seattle and customers should already begin to see the results of the modernization processor.

The full list of todays launches:

Central and Southern Arizona

  • Phoenix, including Tempe, Scottsdale, Glendale, Peoria, Paradise Valley, Surprise and Ahwatukee
  • Mesa, including Chandler and Gilbert
  • Tucson, including South Tucson, Marana, and Vail  

San Francisco Bay Area

  • Silicon Valley, including Cupertino, Sunnyvale, Mountain View, Santa Clara, San Jose
  • Oakland
  • San Francisco

Central Valley, California

  • Stockton
  • Modesto

South Florida

  • Miami, including Coral Gables and Miami Beach
  • Fort Lauderdale, including Hollywood

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  • D_Wall__

    waiting for Orlando still!

    • Orlandoian

      Agreed! Orlando wants some 3G for iPhone!

    • Fabian Cortez

      Drive around and/or check airportal.de. There definitely is 3G in Orlando. I’m tethering on 3G right now on my 4S.

      Florida Mall area, OBT, 50 (from Colonial town Eastward to near Dean road).

      EDIT: iPhone 4S speed tests in Orlando:

      http://i50.tinypic.com/246m04h.png

      http://i50.tinypic.com/a5s8o.png

      • Reality Chick

        “Drive around and…..”

        If a city has 3G coverage then you shouldn’t need to “drive around” in order to find it.

    • volindsay

      i just want orlando to not be spotty.

  • Legione13

    I’m in Philadelphia, and I’m seeing 4 down, 1.6 up on a Galaxy Nexus. Is that typical?

    • taron19119

      No im in Philadelphia and on my s3 I get 8 down and 3 up

      • fbPhilly

        i am in Philadelphia and on my iPhone 5 i get 10.49 down and 3.40 up

        • TSOfan

          How will this affect the sound of an actual call? Will it sound better, will both parties need to be with the same carrier? The article said enhanced voice..will the calls sound more like a land line?

      • FlyOhMy

        the s3 has a 42mbps radio and the GN has a 21mbps radio so he wont get the same speeds as you.

  • Chris

    Does this benefit t-mobile phones at all? I mean I assume having another wavelength (am I saying this correctly?) spitting out HSPA+ instead of EDGE is beneficial, but I’m not sure.

    • Better coverage + other GSM devices that don’t have the 1700MHz band can have HSPA+ data with a T-Mobile SIM (like the iPhone).

      • Chris

        Yeah I get the other phones part. I was wondering about T-Mobile phones. If I already get HSPA+ in that area, does this do anything for me? Bandwidth maybe?

        • My understanding is nothing – other than improved coverage which COULD lead to better speeds.

        • Trevnerdio

          Better indoor coverage, big plus plus

        • TBN27

          Yes it will. I am going on the experience that my galaxy SII roamed on AT&T’s hspa+ network after Sandy hit. Assuming that it was the 1900 mhz frequency, that was an indicator that existing T-Mobile phones such as the one S galaxy SII, Galaxy SII shall take advantage of portions of the network that will be formally edge only.

    • achusaysblessyou

      If you currently have a T-Mo phone, probably not. Although if the network around you is getting bogged down, then switching to the 1900mhz band *might* help, if you phone can do it. My Note II can get ~20mbps in the SF Bay area on regular HSPA+, but on the 1900 MHz I get around 13 mbps, still plenty fast. But the main point of the refarm is to 1) free up spectrum for LTE and 2) support more unlocked phones on T-Mobile’s network (mainly the iPhones, but most quad-band phones have 1900 MHz support because that’s a more common standard as apposed to the 1700Mhz that isn’t)

      • Chris

        Thanks, I figured as much. My Note 2 gets anywhere from 12-24 Mbps in Metro Detroit so I’m usually not needing any kind of speed boost.

        • Jose Hernandez

          Hey Chris, My Galaxy S3 is getting 18-24 Mp in Detroit too. I love the speed, specially when watching Netflix, youtube videos.

        • Mike

          Just remember that not all the phones that support 1900 MHz band support UMTS/HSPA on that band.

  • RefarmPCSnowPlease

    Can you please post a picture of your iphone with the terms “T-Mobile” and “3G”?
    Thank you.

    • My sister has an iPhone4 in chicago land and sometimes gets the 3G pop-up. Once i started seeing ‘4G’ on my Lumia 900 I re-enabled her 3G. I can’t wait to here Chicago is re-farmed as it sucks when you are on edge

  • jayy337

    Im GLAD they did not announce Los Angeles, i would of been pissed. I see 3G in places i go, i live in Long Beach to be exact, but the coverage has more holes than swiss cheese. I hope they get the area covered well soon. I will say that in the areas that i DO get 3G on my iPhone 4S the data is very fast. Im just waiting patiently for better 1900mhz 3G coverage.

    • scottmog

      Same here, I’m from Anaheim. I have an Asus Padfone and I thought something was wrong with my phone with I saw the G instead of the E in the reception area. Please or please so cal! :)

    • Redebbm

      As am I, but was in Weho and the service was amazing. They are starting to fill in the holes, but Los Angeles is such a huge market I think they want to wait until the holes get filled in before launching. I hope they do luanch soon though. In the weaker areas my phone will prefer Edge to 3G in the same spot. That HAS to be fixed as it’s very hectic to see 3G working perfectly on the phone one day but pushed to Edge a few days later.

  • PeteJames1138

    So David what sort of speed is that iPhone 5 getting

  • itsallbs

    I’m in Santa Clara,CA and I still don’t see it at my home or at work!!!

    • MacRat

      I’m in Santa Clara also. I’ve only seen it in a few areas.

      You can see the user reported sightings at airportal.de

      • itsallbs

        That website doesn’t show coverage at my work or at home, but if they officially announce the bay area is refarmed I expect every tower is refarmed.

    • Julian C. Taborda

      Make sure 3g is turned on

      • itsallbs

        I’m checking on my tmobile gs3, manually trying to connect on PCS1900 WCDMA.

  • I know my city isn’t on the list and it hasn’t been officially announced, but that’s okay. I’ve been seeing the 3G icon on the girlfriend’s iPhone 5 just about every where here in STC, MN.

  • I’m glad t-mobile has done all these changes and now I can use the iPhone 4S or 5 and still have great service and at the same time save some money … Unlimited talk + text and 5gb Data for $70 a month seems perfect to me

    • custom1

      Thank you Jorge for your post. Someone being thankful and appreciating what they have and what they have access to is something I can learn from.

    • Hey Jorge what city are you in?

  • Luis

    I live in Tucson and theres no 3G on my iPhone 4 :(

  • Mirad77

    Good job Tmo . Quick question tho’, there is 40 days left in the quarter and you promise 95% completion of the refarm . Is that going to be accomplished?

    • Hotnef

      I doubt. They have only covered parts of major cities. They have a long way to go.

    • volindsay

      is tmobiles quarter REALLY ending on the 1st or do they have into january like other companies.

      • Mirad77

        it ends the last day of December then results comes between January and February

    • el diablo

      hurricane sandy didn’t help with the plans

      • Mirad77

        How many State are in the US and how many where affected by Sandy?

        • el diablo

          few were affected but in order to get them back online a lot of engineers where temp relocated, think about it hspa+ 1900 is not more important than restoring the markets that were affected by the hurricane(part of that is still going on by the way)

        • Mike Antici

          “few” states huh? 14 out of 50 is “few”?? That’s over a QUARTER of the states in the union! that’s not a few. . . the storm was a freaking 1000 miles in diameter. Don’t downplay the affect of the storm. Please and thank you.

  • Zevyn Prather

    Really, they choose Stockton over Sacramento

    • prohibido_por_la_ley

      No, they just finished first. Calm down!

      • Zevyn Prather

        There are about 3 places with 1900mhz 3G in Sacramento, are they even starting

        • JayInCA

          I ran SpeedTest today on my HTC Amaze 4G and got 16.32 Mbps download speed in Midtown Sacramento on UMTS (1900Mhz). It’s going to happen here in Sacramento soon. Don’t be a hater about Stockton, either. I go there to visit family, so more places in the valley with speed, the better.

        • Guest

          I will on Stockton for reasons other than this…deal with it

  • Foxeh

    Seems mostly consistent with the sightings listed on http://www.airportal.de/

    There appears to be a bunch peppered around Minneapolis, I wonder if I should pick up the international version of the Black HTC 8x…

  • Of course I would love if they would work on Orlando myself.

  • okash

    i need it 2 be consistent in NYC~!!

  • D Velasquez

    in NYC there is already a 3G network available the only problem is the phone does not register to it and instead it goes back to T-Mobile 2G, im using an LG GD900 and it does detect it, why was not NYC on the first cities to benefit from this?

    • Redebbm

      I have the same problem in the suburbs of L.A. while in the city it didn’t seems to happen. From what T-Mobile has told me (and I hope they are being honest), this problem will go away when the market is launched.

  • BringBackZetaJones

    And those of us with AWS only phones are screwed. I should have bought a Vibrant which includes the 1900 band…

    • philyew

      How so? TM aren’t moving all their 3G/HSPA+ services off of AWS. If you look at their plans they intend to split PCS 1900 between GSM and 3G/HSPA+ and split AWS between 3G/HSPA+ and LTE. As long as you have a device capable of UMTS on either 1900 or AWS you will still be able to receive 3G/HSPA+ on any tower that currently supports those services.

      • BringBackZetaJones

        Up until a few months ago I got great 4G coverage on my G2. Then all of that went away and now bask in pitiful 2G glory. A friend has great 3G on their TMo iphone and enjoying the coverage I use to get. I think a dirty little secret is that as TMo refarms many of us with phones that only support AWS are left out in the cold.

        • philyew

          The investor presentation that supported the announcement of the MetroPCS merger contained a chart showing that the goal is a split of AWS between 3G/HSPA+ and LTE.

          There are around 25 devices that TM has sold in recent years that are not provisioned with the 1900 band, so the problem would, I think, have already reached a major level, if what you are fearing is true.

          I was concerned about this some time ago and posed a number of related questions to a very reliable source inside TM whom I have come to trust for providing fair and accurate information. The final statement in their response was: “We will definitely still support our current devices the same way that we do today, so don’t worry about that.”

          It sounds like there is an engineering issue on your local tower. Check out the “Network Signal” app and you will see what is going on and the Cell ID which you can use to report a problem to customer support.

          You might also double check your mobile network setting to make sure it hasn’t somehow toggled over to GSM-only…

        • BringBackZetaJones

          Does the footprint decrease when the split is made? It appears that’s what has happened to my area. Getting a straight answer out of T-Mobile is nearly impossible. I have sent TMo my cid and lac data from *#*#4636#*#* and opened up six trouble tickets all have which have been closed because the techs could not find anything wrong. What you have been told is right – my G2 has great voice coverage and data despite it being edge. It seems they are hiding behind a technicality by saying our AWS only phones will still be supported.

        • prohibido_por_la_ley

          They aren’t pulling HSPA+ coverage out of the AWS band. Stop talking out of your ass and check your phone.

        • BringBackZetaJones

          If you could read beyond a third grade level you would see that I have done sufficient testing testing on my own to support what I’m saying. So instead of resorting to childish insults try reading again…slowly.

        • philyew

          But we are not hearing the multitude of complaints about this which would automatically follow if this was happening on a widespread basis. There are thousands of towers now converted, but the discussion community has not reflected a proportionate problem.

        • Shane Bellinger

          Where did you get the THOUSANDS of towers now converted? Is there a website where T-Mobile lists the towers that have already been converted? Or was there a a press release that I missed where they announced thousands of towers? I’m asking because I’ve been following this somewhat closely and it seems like a couple hundred towers in a few cherry picked cities so far.

        • There are thousands of towers done, they announced that over the summer. At this point there has to be more than that, but yes, they are scattered launches at this point.

        • philyew

          There are 37,000 towers to be converted and, if you go by the worst prognostication based on an FCC filing by TM at the beginning of the year, the work is due to be completed by June 2013. On that basis, they have been working for 6 months on a 14 month schedule. That’s over 40% of the elapsed time already passed. To have converted only 2,000 towers – i.e. “thousands” – they would have had to have achieved only 6% progress in 40% of the elapsed time.

          By your estimation of only a couple of hundred towers they would have had to have achieved a miserable 0.6% progress in 40% of the elapsed time. Put another way, at that rate of progress it would take them OVER 8 YEARS to get the job done.

          But let’s not rely on deductive reasoning. Let’s look at the reported sightings over at the airportal site. Working down the west coast states from Washington to California, I found at least 50 locations so physically displaced that they would each require their own group of converted towers.

          That includes counting cities like Seattle, Tacoma, Portland, Eugene, Sacramento, Berkley, Oakland, San Francisco, Cupertino, San Jose, San Ramon, Los Angeles and San Diego (to name a few) as if they only required one tower per city.

          In fact, Los Angeles is shrouded in reported sighting from Santa Clarita in the north fully 90 miles to San Clemente in the south, and from the ocean 75 miles to San Bernardino in the east. That’s a huge area requiring many towers.

          Bear in mind also that these are voluntary reports using an obscure and difficult tool, so they probably reflect only some of the locations that are now converted. When you extend this beyond the west coast, there are sightings reported in 28 states.

          Unless this project is to turn into a complete catastrophe, I don’t think “thousands of towers” at this stage is anywhere close to a reach…In fact, if it is only a couple of thousand towers completed by now, then the project will be a failure.

        • Shane Bellinger

          Thanks – I hope that you and @David are right. I was just going on my personal experience. It seems like certain select markets have their share of towers converted to 3G but outside of that it looks sparse. We live outside of indianapolis and travel to Columbus regularly to see family. There isn’t any 3G to be had anywhere out here so that’s why I ask.

          I have an Android so it doesn’t matter to me. But my wife has an iPhone and she’s the one nagging me to switch carriers. I keep telling her “soon” but having something more than telling her “soon” would help. Something like one actual tower that I can point to around here that has 3G would be nice. It seems that if they converted thousands of towers already there’d be one 3G tower up here – even if it were by mere accident.

        • philyew

          The only indicators that I can find are the airportal site and the reported sightings in the TM forum where people are unable or unwilling to use airportal.

          Indianapolis is the #31 market and TM are definitely hitting their Top 50 markets at the moment, so it will come. Based on the tags at airportal, all the Top 25 are already covered to some degree and 14 of the next 25. There has been a sighting in Columbus as well (#35), so keep your eyes open for developments.

    • Mike

      Vibrant has 1900 band, but not for use with UMTS or HSPA +. The vibrant is stuck on 1700 AWS for HSPA + 42.

      • Mike

        but the vibrant only runs hspa 7.2

  • JJ Clark

    Still waiting to have any semblance of decent service in Seattle. 4 miles from TMO mothership and I still run into dead spot after dead spot. My service was amazing in Chicago, however. Lame

  • Houseton

    In Houston, the best I’ve seen on my iPhone5 is 11.76 down and 2.68 up.

  • Although San Diego is not there and won’t benefit anything of this on my Galaxy Note, I still applaud you TMobile for doing something

  • Cheezeiwz

    Lol Birmingham alabama has has 4g for so long :) guess were not so outdated after all

    • TMOLOAYL

      Birmingham, AL was the trial market for U1900.

  • JAY

    Will any of this help with service in buildings? I live in a basement apartment and every tmobile phone I have had has gotten no service in it. ATT gets full bars in here. Even during Sandy, I was getting full data service bars in here with my tmobile phone. Now I wish the takeover went through with ATT

    • Splaktar

      No, that has to do with the spectrum. 1900 Mhz does not penetrate buildings well, unlike Verizon’s 700 Mhz spectrum.

      • JAY

        So T-Mobile just does not think its important to get their signal through buildings? I want service in the hard to get service places, not only service where I can get a signal with ANY service

        • Splaktar

          It doesn’t have anything to do with what they ‘think is important’. It has to do with the spectrum that was available for purchase and that they were able to win the bidding on.

        • niftydl

          T-Mobile can not change the laws of physics. The frequencies (1700/1900/2100) they are allowed to use (and purchased) by the the FCC just have poor building penetration compared to the 700/800/850 MHz used by Verizon and AT&T. WiFi calling is the only solution for basement dwellers at this point, provided your phone is T-Mobile branded and you have a WiFi network to connect to.

          Sadly I think service availability in buildings is part of the reason a lot of people are not staying or switching over. Potential savings are great IF you spend most of the time in newer buildings that have good RF penetration. Verizon remains king because their signal is practically everywhere.

        • Redebbm

          I don’t know why T-Mobile didn’t push forward with a femtocell, especially since a lot of T-Mobile users don’t have phones with the T-Mobile branded wifi calling. They really should consider releasing a femtocell again when LTE launches. Enough of their current solution.

        • itmustbejj

          Verizon and AT&T own all the juicy lower frequency mobile spectrum that has better signal penetration unfortunately.

  • I’m still waiting for them to construct the tower by my house that was approved June 2011 :(

    • Redebbm

      Hopefully your neighbors aren’t trying to block it, that leads to delays. People want better cell service, but refuse to have a cell tower near them even if it looks like a tree. Go to http://www.t-mobile-takeaction.com to let them know you want a tower in your area.

  • Garcia6131

    YES !!!! I got tmobile 3g on my iphone and ipad . Check out my speedtest test video
    http://youtu.be/qBj-6paNu-U

  • Alex

    Pulling 6 Mbp/s just north of Dallas

  • mattcat03

    Hey David,

    I must of miss it. What about Los Angeles

  • androidcactus

    how can I switch my nexus s to the 1900 band? barely get any reception in my own house in phoenix area on whatever tmobile normal network was. would this help?

    • jagster

      Try dialing #0011#

  • drewsg

    I live in Ft Lauderdale, how can I check to see if I can connect to 1900?

    • jagster

      If it’s an AT&T phone then it should just use the new frequency and show 3G instead of Edge.

  • jagster

    I read that you can switch to the 1900 band somehow by dialing #0011# from your phone. My area hasn’t switched over yet so I can’t test this myself.

  • Roger

    I get 3G on my iPhone 5 in downtown San Diego.

    • Yoyo

      Me too in pt loma. Also great h+ at dz Akins on Sunday so it is happening in San Diego

      • Ksk

        I get it off the 94w.

        • Yoyo

          It is definitely showing up in San Diego
          Seems more and more each Day
          I have an intl unlocked galaxy note 2. Loving only $30 per month especially with 3G now!!!!

  • volindsay

    hum, orlando would be nice, its super spotty with the service

  • Jandar

    The Arizona spots is pretty consistent down the freeways, but spotty throughout the cities. Still have lots of work to do here.

  • androidcactus

    wanted to see if anyone could explain how this would help us existing tmobile customers with tmobile handsets. For example.someone with a tmobile sg3, will that make reception, coverage better? I barely get reception in my own house, backyard etc..i’ve talked to tmobile a bunch of times and they just say its a bad little pocket and don’t know why

    • prohibido_por_la_ley

      It will if:
      1) the PCS band is stronger in your location than the AWS band ( you can tell if your phone frequently falls back to EDGE), that EDGE will be replaced by HSPA+
      and
      2) if your handset supports it which all phones 2011 and later do.

      • philyew

        When did the Sidekick 4G, G2x, LG MyTouch and MyTouch Q launch? I thought they all came out last year and they don’t have UMTS Support on the 1900 band, according to the tech specs page over on the TM site. Any Blackberries that launched last year are also lacking.

  • Metro Detroit , Please for iPhone

  • rob

    anyone in hollywood fl having issues of clearity or reception issues since they lauched the 1900 freq this morning?

  • nexususer

    :O im in Clifton NJ and now I have 3g on my iphone 5, 10mb on speed test

  • epoch

    how about Dallas Forth worth.
    epoch

  • Jarrod

    I’m glad I can now get 3G at my house in Houston two weeks after we got launched. The coverage is starting to thicken up but it’s going to take a little while to mirror the 4G network they have rolled out in Houston.

  • drewsg

    Does this mean I can get a HTC One X+ and get the 3G to work? Either the ATT version or the unlocked version?

    • Ted

      yep

  • Still waiting for them to light up Austin.

  • cutienoua

    too late for me!

    ipad mini verizon 45Mbps down 15 Mbps up
    droid razr maxx in process of canceling my tmobile account

    • bleeew

      Lol. I still got Unlimited Data on vzw. Its nice, but I want more competition.

    • UMA_Fan

      Verizon LTE will be old news when Tmobile Lte advanced is out with unlimited data

  • Wilykat

    I’m in Modesto, some areas are completely H+ on my ATT phone others (Like my apartment) I still get only Edge speeds. Was hoping Id have good service at home with this phone but I may just have to get an S3 soon here to do that.

  • trife

    Huntsville, AL please. Oh wait….we’re usually last in everything.

    *insert sadfrog.jpg*

    • Trevnerdio

      I think Panama City, FL might have you beat on that one!

      • Nicolas LaBarre

        Hey I live in Panama City too!

        • Trevnerdio

          Small world haha how has T-Mo been treating you here?

  • Saint Louis?

    Will this help with building penetration in downtown urban areas for those with purely 1700 AWS phones? Will signals on AWS be made stronger too? When will St Louis be official?

    • J-Hop2o6

      No. If the Tmo phone has 1900 HSPA+ (mainly Samsung Tmo phones) then you will get a better indoor signal.

      • Mike

        It depends on if the building has a repeater in it. Also, there is not much difference is penetration in the 1900 Mhz band as opposed to the 1700 Mhz band. Verizon has nice penetration with their LTE on the 700 Mhz band. Most tmobile phones currently do not support UMTS or HSPA on the 1900 Mhz PCS band. They only do GSM/EDGE/GRPS connection.

        • philyew

          I checked through the TM portfolio of recent devices and found that around 27 of them supported UMTS on the 1900 band. There were a few significant absentees from that list, but most of the bigger sellers are covered.

          Back in May, FierceWireless reported the following: “T-Mobile said network modernization trials have shown a 33 percent improvement in HSPA+ data speeds and in-building signal penetration.”

          I don’t think the response was comparing TM service with Verizon. The original question asked if using the 1900 band would offer improvements over the use of AWS. While I agree that higher frequencies don’t penetrate better, you may be forgetting that AWS is split between the 1700 and 2100 bands and that every transaction requires both up and down links. Without the dependence on the 2100 mhz band, penetration should be improved. Whether it matches the 33% implied in the above quote is open to question, but there should be some improvement.

      • Mike

        That is not true. Higher frequency signals do NOT penetrate buildings better. Verizons 700MHZ LTE will have the best building penetration. Also, just because a phone supports the 1900 Mhz bad doent mean it can receive a UTMS or HSPA signal on that band.

  • Mimo Dakdouk

    Nice, now let’s get Cleveland OH live :)

  • FatWalrus

    Will my Tmo Galaxy S3 benefit at all from this refarm like inside buildings or what not?

    • J-Hop2o6

      A bit more yes since Tmo’s 1900 has better penetration than AWS.

  • nicho

    i live in los angeles and already have 3g internet in my iphone

  • Tim

    It would be perfect if they expand to san diego! :D

    • Yoyo

      They are already. I have already been getting 3G in spots throughout San Diego

  • tef

    Hollywood, Fl refarm has some big holes

  • steveb944

    So glad I can finally tell people to grab an iPhone and bring it to T-Mobile. I didn’t expect us in South Florida to get it so soon

    • .A.J.

      Yup, I just tested it with an unlocked iPhone 3GS I have laying around & it worked well on 3G. 3+ Mbps down & .5 up. I’m currently half way between Mia & FtL out west (I-75). I’m pleasantly surprised. Not that I’m leaving android, but it’s nice to know I have a spare phone that’ll work on 3G.

      • Ted

        I have tried it all over South Florida on my LG 4X HD…I’ve gotten speeds between 2mbps and 10mbps (in pembroke pines) so things are not too bad for us without AWS phones

  • Irfan

    Thats good but its also lower the upload speed which is not goot at all I live in dc metro area which I was getting 3 mbps and now hardly 1 mbps download down 18 mbps to 12 mbps ..any way will what they really going to do

  • Is there a timeline list anywhere that has locations on it?

    • Redebbm

      No T-Mobile won’t give timelines, but the rollout has bee pretty speedy depending on the area (flat areas seem to be the fastest to roll out). If 3G has been spotted on airportal.de then you can probably bet those areas to be launched soon, if not the new year.

      • Reality Chick

        “Speedy depending on the area…” – the problem is that it’s a huge country and there are a LOT of areas to cover. And they don’t even have decent/full coverage in the very few areas that they’ve already announced as being covered.
        There are THOUSANDS of areas remaining to be covered. They’ve done about a dozen so far and even those aren’t finished yet and don’t have full coverage.
        Common sense says that it will be YEARS until most of the smaller markets have real 3G coverage.

      • Thanks for the info.

  • wyn50

    When is Honolulu going to get it?

  • AvilB18

    When will they be reframing in Reading Pennsylvania ?

    • Slow Rollout

      Get in line…. it’s not even available in *most* major-markets yet. At this rate I predict you’ll get it in 2019. A full year before I get it in Hartford, CT.

  • Frank

    To those in the announced markets, how reliable is your network? Here in the Boston area, which is not completed, the coverage is not only spotty (expected) but dropped calls and service are INCREASING. Often when passing from Edge to 3G the phone drops to “no service” and especially near the airport which is “Edge Only” I go from 5 bars to “No service” frequently. It’s very frustrating and I’m wondering if the updating is creating instability in other markets.

  • qpinto

    and im waiting for att to send my unlock code for an iphone 4s. im curious to see what kind of data speeds i can pick up compared to my g2x (same hspa 14 antenna)

  • M42

    All they are doing is moving their HSPA+ 3G/4G from the 1700 MHZ spectrum to 1900MHZ, so old iPhones can work on T-Mobile’s network. How does that help anybody, except old iPhone owners? They’re still leaving the bulk of their market served by Edge. What they should be doing is spending that money upgrading Edge to HSPA+. I stay on Edge 85-90% of the time and it is a royal pain. Email won’t download attachments. Anything that uses data, like traffic maps take forever to load. Being on T-Mobile in these Edge areas is a totally frustrating experience.

    • Redebbm

      It isn’t just for iPhone users, that is a side effect & works for other phones. In order for T-Mobile to launch LTE they have to move 3G onto the 1900 band through refarming which makes room on 1700AWS for LTE. If you’re tired of Edge in your area, it’s time to switch. I remember the 3G wait game in my neighborhood, but am lucky to live near a major market. If your area hasn’t received 3G by now, it’s probably not a high priority for T-Mobile to do so.

    • philyew

      This change is taking place on 37,000 towers out of the 51-52,000 that TM use. The 14-15,000 towers that are not affected are those which don’t currently support 3G. That’s around 29% of the towers, but they service a much smaller proportion of the overall customer base. Between TM’s own 3G services and those available from the AT&T roaming agreement, up to 280 million of the population potentially have access to 3G or better services with a TM contract.

      If you are stuck on 2G, you are unfortunately part of the 30 million minority who don’t have local access to the faster data services.

      Over the next 3-4 years, it’s very possible that part of the $4 billion earmarked for network upgrade will improve the lot of people in the areas served by 2G-only, but the priority will be to make the majority of their footprint competitive with the other major carriers.

      • M42

        I’m not waiting three or four years. At the end of my contract I’ll be gone. Every other carrier has our area blanketed in 4G with very little 3G. There is no excuse for a national carrier to have half of their network being served by 2G. But you have confirmed what I posted earlier and that is the network is not being upgraded/improved. They’re just shuffling their HSPA+ pea from one shell to another.

        And roaming on AT&T doesn’t help. When I roam I’m on AT&T’s Edge network. T-Mobile’s customer service told me that their agreement with AT&T is for AT&T’s Edge network only.

        • philyew

          Hey, it’s your choice, but I didn’t say that at all. I said that the areas stuck on 2G serve a population of around 30 million. Their 3G and better footprint serves 230 million with an additional 50 million covered by AT&T roaming. The seven year roaming agreement they entered into this year is for UMTS – in other words 3G.

          How you can conclude that 30 million equals 230 million, I don’t know.

        • UMA_Fan

          It depends on your phone.

    • Mike Antici

      I don’t care if Miami has BETTER 4G than me.. .I’d prefer 4G everywhere rather than BETTER 4G in some places. Upgrade the towers that have 2G to 4G, THEN worry about upgrading 4G to BETTER 4G.

  • bryck

    Happy Thanksgiving Dave and the rest of my fellow Tmonews crew……. Peace and Love and Happy drinking and eating.

  • mrmaster198

    I know Tallahassee is small, but when is T-mobile going to cover the tally metro? (Tallahassee, North Florida-Panama City, Destin etc. and South Georgia etc)

  • caquito

    In Miami an AT&T Blackberry still shows EDGE, anyone getting 3G in Miami?

    • Ted

      Miami is mostly covered but there are still holes. Same with Hollywood, the downtown area in Hollywood is mostly Edge but once you leave to the other parts the H comes on on my LG 4x HD. Ft Lauderdale has holes too. It’s weird, It’s like 60% of South Florida has been refarmed and the areas that show edge are head scratchers.

    • Samples

      Brand new unlocked iPhone 5 is only seeing Edge in Coconut Grove and Brickell so far, but we did see 3G in Aventura. =( I promised my wife it would be working on 3G everywhere by now, so the clock is ticking before i’ll have to move it to AT&T. I chatted online with T mobile rep who suggested trying this: http://support.t-mobile.com/docs/DOC-2383 I’m wondering if it’s just a tower location issue. Based on a 33133 zip code search on http://www.t-mobiletowers.com/TowerSearch.aspx shows very few towers in Coconut Grove / Brickell / Coral Gables, and a ton of towers near and west of 826. How could there be so few towers in such a central area?

      • T-Mo Miami

        33178, 33172 & 33010 do not have 4G on iPhone 4S. Still on Edge.

        • ted

          North Miami and Midtown Miami have 3g

      • philyew

        That site doesn’t show all the towers that TM use, just the 7,200 that they own, for which they have just done a deal with Crown Castle assigning rights.

        There are another 44-45,000 towers around the country that they also use.

    • T-Mo Miami

      nope, Edge all over miami. what a let down. press release conveyed false info. can we sue?!

  • Still not even a sighting yet in Charlotte. Hopefully some spots will spring up in December.

  • Joel_Axel

    i went to a tmobile store and asked them when is the 3g going to be in my iPhone here in San Antonio, TX. and they told me that by December there going to be 3g in San Antonio

    ^.^ (hopefully)

  • dwatts86

    I have an unlocked 3GS in Fort Worth and I occasionally see the beautiful 3G signal in the top left corner next to the words T-Mobile. With that came speeds up to 5.26 Mbps, which is much better than the 0.15 Mbps I had before! Hopefull Dallas/Fort Worth will be finished in the very near future!

  • Abe

    I’m over here near downtown Detroit, Michigan and ohhh yahhh iPhone 3G speed, it’s so cool and fast

  • GwapoAko

    I’m here in Colorado Springs and found 3G on my iPhone 4$ in Fountain and World Arena.

  • City

    Milwaukee??

  • imcrazylikethat

    umm is the refarming in these areas done or being refarmed now

  • Chris

    I have 3G in most parts of Dallas on my iPhone 4

  • T-Mobile is doing a damn good job when you consider what they have accomplished with a small budget to work with. In the Boston area (very large area) the 1900 refarmed network is popping up everywhere. I live in a suburb about 4 or 5 miles out of Boston and there are towers live everywhere around me. It is great work T-Mobile is doing along with the refarmed network their HSPA+ just keeps getting faster and stronger. I am getting on average around 13 – 17mb down and 5 -7mb up, these speeds are during peak hours, after 7:00pm my speeds jump over 20mb down. These speeds are faster then my Verizon’s LTE account.
    Thanks T-Mobile.

    • Where_is_my_3g

      In the Waltham area where 128 intersects with Winter St. (Totten Pond Road) there’s no 3G there at all. There’s a huge hill that’s loaded with antennas and towers and it’s one of the busiest sections of road. I check every day on my way to work and I’ve never seen a 3G signal there.

      Maybe it’s popping up in Boston but for everyone who lives and works a few miles outside of Boston – we’re all SOL.

      • conservative_motorcyclist

        Well it’s popping up all over the Lynn, Salem, Marblehead area (I found a ton of areas to report that aren’t on the “official” map at airportal.de)…I can also confirm that there is a site or two along I-95 in Burlington that I have connected to.

        I know it’s frustrating…I am starting to get 3G on my iPhone everywhere but my house.

  • Thanks to Sandy New York is not in the list yet…. sad…

  • Zezmex

    Hopefully they get St. Louis soon. Coverage everywhere is HORRIBLE!

  • saiflu

    Even though Atlanta was not announced :(, the best I got on an iPhone 5 was 13 up and 3 down. Pretty good speeds with a 3G moniker. Hopefully Atlanta gets announced soon because I have seen spotty 3G coverage all over!

  • Reality Chick

    Get real folks – it’s a big, big country with thousands of cities and markets. So far T-Mobile has announced 15. One-Five… 15 and even those few cities aren’t finished and don’t have 3G in most places.

    Unless you live in the downtown of a major city you’re not going to see 3G anytime soon. They can’t even finish Chicago, New York, LA, Dallas, etc so why on earth do you think they’re going to get to your little town anytime soon?

  • TMO is pushing out these 1900 signal areas twice as fast as Sprint’s LTE. On top of the 1900 Network, TMO is also adding to their regular HSPA+ areas. They are on a roll, very good time to be a T-Mobile customer.
    Thank You T-Mobile.

  • Mike Antici

    That’s just wonderful. . . but ummm excuse me. . . why don’t you concentrate on putting 4G in areas that currently only have edge. . . to be honest, I don’t really care if Miami has better 4G than I do here in CT, I just want 4G EVERYWHERE, not BETTER 4G in some places, and NO 4G in others.