Leftover Chip Technology To Blame For Lack Of LTE On Nexus 4 Says LG

With the ability to activate LTE on the AWS band with a minimum of work, LG is taking to the press to officially discuss the lack of the feature. In fact, LG’s reasoning is pretty much exactly what we expected, the Nexus 4 has leftover chip technology from the LG Optimus G, an LTE-ready device.

“In order to provide the best possible specification for Nexus 4, LG utilized the same powerful Qualcomm Snapdragon chipset as can be found in its 4G LTE product, namely LG Optimus G” a spokesperson told us.

“This powerful chipset is only available with a combined processor and modem and cannot be implemented separately.

“The modem contains 4G LTE capabilities but is only effective when combined with other essential hardware parts such as a signal amplifier and filter in order for it to work. It therefore cannot be upgraded to 4G LTE capability through software.”

In other words, any hope for a future software update to fully and officially access LTE on the Nexus 4 has officially been dashed.

“With the inclusion of the Qualcomm Snapdragon chipset, Nexus 4 therefore offers the same amazing processing performance as LG Optimus G but for the 3G market,” added the spokesperson.

Still, LG isn’t saying anything about whether or not an LTE-ready version of the Nexus 4 will come down the road, which remains a distinct possibility. LG’s comments still remain at odds with the recent XDA Developer discovery that LTE will work on the AWS band. In fact, the hack itself is so straightforward, it takes almost no knowledge of rooting or modding to enable. All this begs the question as to why LG left LTE off in the first place? Was it at the request of Google or to avoid carrier requirements to test and certify LTE devices? As Apple has learned, offering LTE devices around the world requires more than one piece of hardware and with limiting the device to just HSPA+, LG only needs to make one handset. There’s still a lot of questions here, but I don’t expect we’ll find any more answers from LG.

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  • trife

    Something tells me that the boys over at XDA will still figure out a way to make it work if the tech is there. I wouldn’t expect LG to come out and say that LTE will work on the N4 anyways. Why would they?

  • Dion Mac

    I’m not sure what that first sentence means.

    Can’t wait for your nexus review. I love mine but there are some things that make me go really?o_0

    I how this is a cover up and it indeed has lte

    I wish you had am android app with new post notifications. #sigh

    • archerian

      Google and LG at some point made the conscious decision to not have LTE Support for the N4, and certain aspects of the hardware design (like the lack of antennae for all common LTE bands) show that. The missing link is they could not offer a state of the art Qualcomm S4 Pro multiband DC-HSPA+ device without the hardware specs for it additionally having the capability to support LTE too. However the lack of all possible antenna configurations (which they could control on a per device level) illustrate their initial intent. The only reason we have LTE support on some bands is the same antenna can be re-used as they are for the same frequency.

    • steveb944

      Might want to look into Google Reader. I follow my favorite blogs on there and have news links for certain items I want news on e.g. my OG Transformer updates

      Don’t forget David updates on FB and Twitter.

  • niididdy

    Lies…all lies! Lol ;)

  • sapphiraa

    what a bunch of lazy bastards -.- this is pure laziness and nothing else

    • cheapskate88

      Laziness? I think you’re using that word wrong.

  • n900mixalot

    I am so confused. So it has LTE but it doesn’t … which is it?

    • archerian

      it can do LTE on certain bands, namely AWS which is the planned band for T-mo LTE.

      • Guest

        Right so I has LTE and LG is lying saying it doesn’t?

        • Guest

          the lying part – its not a straight yes/no answer – just like we have quadband/pentaband phones to support all possible UMTS speeds, we need a phone to support several LTE bands for it to be called ‘LTE Capable’ in any sensible fashion. The N4 does only a few (if not one) of those bands, so I believe Google and LG erred on the side of caution to say it doesn’t have LTE as it doesnt support the bands needed by several major operators.

        • cheapskate88

          There is only one version of the Nexus 4. Unlike other global LTE capable devices that come in several different versions (see iPhone 5) So they could have just as easily said “LTE Capable in Select Markets.”

          All this misinformation is unacceptable. It just makes everyone involved look and sound sketchy as sh*t.

      • n900mixalot

        Right so LG and Google are lying by saying it doesn’t have LTE?

        • archerian

          the lying part – its not a straight yes/no answer – just like we have
          quadband/pentaband phones to support all possible UMTS bands, we need a
          phone to support several LTE bands for it to be called ‘LTE Capable’ in
          any sensible fashion. The N4 does only a few (if not one) of those
          bands, so I believe Google and LG erred on the side of caution to say it
          doesn’t have LTE as it doesnt support the bands needed by several major
          operators.

        • n900mixalot

          Thanks for that excellent clarification.

        • Dion Mac

          My personal thoughts are these phones are compatible with both T-Mobile and att as far as the u.s… What they look like saying it’s 3g for att but one day it will be 4g lte for T-Mobile. They have to sell these devices, no need to spark confusion and cause att customers not to get it.

        • archerian

          Yes, today they are compatible as far as GSM (2G) and UMTS (3G, HSPA) is concerned as the Nexus 4 is a pentaband device, and that’s exactly what Google has been saying. They cannot say it will work on T-mobile LTE as its not yet ready, and ATT doesn’t have enough AWS spectrum in several major markets to have a blanket AWS LTE rollout, and their current LTE is in the 700 Mhz band.

        • BahamasGeek242

          Thank you sir

  • Alvin Brinson

    It is the way LG does business. Pure and simple. If a carrier doesn’t pony up and pay LG for a feature, they will not do it. They do nothing for the benefit of their customers unless a carrier pays 100% of the cost.

    For example, the G2X lacking any ICS update despite the fact that such an update was promised, is possible, and exists on sister devices. LG hasn’t done it because T-Mobile won’t pay for it.

    Now, the “leftover” technology here enables LTE on only a few carriers in Canada and in the future in the US. Apparently, none of those carriers paid LG for LTE, therefore, LG will insist LTE technology doesn’t exist at all in this phone. The fact that they could enable it as a value added feature because it’s already there, for those who are on AWS LTE compatible carriers, is irrelevant. They wouldn’t do such a thing because there’s no short-term profit in it.

    This is why I REFUSE to buy another LG product.

    • niididdy

      Understand, but this is not just ANY LG device…this is the Nexus 4 by Google, which means if nothing at all owners of the device WILL get their Android updates regardless of what you or LG think of LG. ;)

      As for LTE they don’t need to enable it on Band 4; we can do that ourselves.

  • r.s

    i could care less about LTE!! I just want to know when google will get more phones in stock!!!! BLAH

  • Josue

    *coughs excuses coughs*

  • sigewulf

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  • BigMixxx

    I guess I leave it to this…Why LG and not google? Makes sense to use the same chipset, but why is LG coming forward in saying this vs. Google?

  • Mirad77

    This is BS. They just came out and put a very vague statement. How do they explain the LTE capabilities that is already out there? Not to mention that it’s been confirmed that the N4 has some said amplifiers they say it doesn’t. BS

  • steveb944

    Now I’m second guessing getting it due to the slim to none possibility of an official LTE device in the future. This thing better restock quick so I make the jump to a Nexus

  • tomnewtn

    I have been happy with 3g and HSPA+. I don’t have this Nexus as I want to see if it has any problems first. Especially since it was an LG product. I hear the speaker is an issue right now….maybe also battery life so it will be interesting to see how that is resolved. I think a better design would have been along the lines of the black One S, which is beautiful.

    • http://www.facebook.com/DSwagg09 Dion Mac

      Interestingly enough, I love the design on the nexus and thats coming from someone who just switched from a sensation, before that g2 and was going to get an s one but it didn’t seem like a big enough change(which is why i dont understand iphone upgraders). But the design is great! battery life, not bad but could be better, the speaker surprised me since so many reviews said it was bad, but it kinda gave me a wow factor. The gesture keyboard is more accurate than swype, but swype is so much more easier to correct yourself. :( Processor speed? My god… another wow factor. Goes from app to app in a sec(no lag), speaking of which on my sensation, instagram could take up to ten seconds to load which is long as hell in dog year, but the nexus pull it right up. I don’t like that it only has 6 panels instead of 7 but thats just me. Even the voice duhikie thing could understand my deep voice. #winning.

      #Recap Execellent design, stupid fast processing, keyboard both good and annoying, voice thingy is awesome, battery is a lil bit better than ok, and I love it(coming from a sensation),

  • The Dude

    I will never buy an LG product again ever.

    • http://www.facebook.com/unfazedrebel Jé Be (Here but Gone)

      Heard it all before……

  • BahamasGeek242

    Now I am confused but I am still more than happy with my T-mo Speeds on my Nexus 4 (yes I got a replacement on Thursday) 24Mbps down and 5Mbps up…..my Coworker has Verizon SGS3 18Mbps down and 15Mbps up but he pays $120 per month I pay 70 so I am pretty happy

  • Zombie Killer

    Just in case anyone is interested in analyzing the contradictory statements…

    “This powerful chipset is only available with a combined processor and modem and cannot be implemented separately.”

    This is total nonsense. Optimus G (And Nexus 4) use the APQ8064, which does NOT include a modem, and DOES require a separate modem. In fact, Qualcomm does NOT have a quad-Krait processor WITH an integrated modem. ALL of their current “MSM” (integrated modem) Krait chips are DUAL CORE.

    The MODEM used is the MDM9200, except for Optimus G CDMA version, which uses the MDM9600. By pairing the APQ with the MDM8220 modem, the Nexus 4 would be identical, BUT LACK LTE.

    The only quad-Krait with integrated modem is the MSM8974, due for SAMPLING in second quarter of NEXT YEAR.