Will You Bring An Unlocked Smartphone To T-Mobile’s Refarmed Network?

For a moment forget about all the attention T-Mobile is placing on the iPhone and their soon-to-be refarmed network, and remember that the iPhone is just one of many smartphones that will take advantage of this new capability. In fact, any phone with 1900MHz HSPA+ or HSDPA will be table to take advantage of T-Mobile’s refarmed network in a big way and that opens up the door for a heap of new possibilities. Just take a look at Negri Electronics or Expansys-USA and the large swath of smartphones that will soon work that you never could have considered using before.

Yes, there will be a cost involved in bringing an unlocked smartphone over to T-Mobile, there always has been and for some of us, that’s just the price we pay for using what we want. For others, the high price of an unlocked smartphone may be a roadblock to an arguably better digital life. The combination of T-Mobile’s unlimited data plan and any smartphone, never mind just the use of the iPhone 4S or potentially the iPhone 5, is hopefully very enticing for current T-Mobile customers as well as competitor customers looking for less expensive options. T-Mobile is obviously placing a lot of hope on the refarmed network, not just for the use of unlocked iPhone’s and other smartphones, but also to free up spectrum on their AWS bands for LTE.

So I ask you, iPhone or not, will you consider or do you plan on bringing an unlocked smartphone over to T-Mobile’s network?

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  • urmom

    Why would you start advertising about bringing your iPhone over right now when the iPhone is still on EDGE? Going to bring a bunch of customer to stores and then we have to tell them about edge until tmobile reframes the network, which could be a month or next year. Lmao. Good call tmoboostcricket

  • Guest

    Unlocked iPhone ready for T-Mobile here.

  • Grimbeaver

    Where’s the option, I already have an unlocked phone that’s not an iPhone running on T-Mobile?

    • MacRat


      I’ve been using unlocked phones on T-Mobile the entire 10 years I’ve been a T-Mobile customer.

    • Bagfuq Smith


  • Frank Alvarez

    TMO needs to release a. Refarmed map and schedule if they really are serious about this. I already use an unlocked phone and do not have to pay for wifi tethering.

    • Chris Lombardo

      I’ve been waiting for a map or a release schedule for some time. Please give give us one T-Mo

      • GwapoAko
        • MacRat

          This site is only useful until people start entering bogus info.

        • Which is exactly why I haven’t posted it, it’s completely unreliable.

        • jgor2000

          You can’t post bogus info. It is a very well done map indeed.

        • This is a totally unreliable site.

    • vaglica

      They really do need to release a timeframe that’s realistic and fast. People do not want to wait

    • You don’t see that happen because they don’t want to be held too it if something goes wrong or gets delayed with one area that’s beyond their control.

  • Deadeye37

    This would be nice because if I have to look for used phones, I don’t have to only look for T-mobile phones. Even better, if I ever win a new phone….na….that will never happen :)

  • LTEstyles

    This will be exciting. Cant wait for the refarm roll out here in Florida.

  • Lucas R

    I have a question? Why will I bring a iPhone 5 to T-Mobile when it will take a long time to get 3G on it. I have a iPhone 4S on T-Mob. Now and if there’s not 3G in Chicago by the end of next week I’m off with Verizon.

    • Yesterday we posted that T-Mobile said the refarm is scheduled to roll out in the fourth quarter.

      • Nina

        Ok but can’t that be till Dec? :( this sucks.

        • ogopogo

          Wow. you can’t wait until December? What would really suck is if they didn’t do this at all.

      • gifts

        I think a lot of people CAN wait till December, but the problem is, will every city get the refarm?

    • GwapoAko

      Good luck paying arm and leg and head with Verizon :0)

      • Lucas R

        I wont pay a arm and a leg I get a discount every month because I work for the city so they give me 18% off every month and so does T-Mobile they give me a discount but its not even about the money they need to fix there network it is taking way to long everyone has LTE and T-Mob is still on 4G just watch once Tmo gets LTE every other carrier will have 5G. Tmo does not need to get the iphone but if they would have there 1900 mhz up before and had it done it would be great… but who knows if they will even get this going…

        • GwapoAko

          Okay if that is really your decision, Tmobile cannot stop you from going to Verizon. I really cannot understand why is it a big deal if Tmo has no LTE . They have HSPA +42 which is comparable to Verizon. Don’t get me wrong I have iPhone 4$ with Tmobile and been on Edge since Nov 11 but that is fine with me coz I don’t usually download or stream on this 3.5 inch phone in the office coz I am at work. I have wifi at home and get faster speed. When I trave I use mapquest on my iPhone on Edge :0). I only consume less than 200MB a month :0)

        • Lucas R

          I been having a iPhone 3GS since it first came out and once the iphone 4 came out I got it and then the first day the 4S came out I had it.. it got annoying after once and a while when I am out and want to check out some stuff on the internet or NAVIGATION.. it was so slow sure I get about 50 MBPS wifi at home.. but for me having to wait ever since the 3GS on T-Mo I had enough every time I call 611 they tell me lies. Id rather be able to have all features on my phone then nothing.. anyways they said Chicago will see 3G on the iPhone tomorrow morning or midnight tomorrow ill just hope if it works it works if not hello verizon…

        • GwapoAko

          I hear you. Hopefully we can get teh 3G on our iPhone 4$ soon “0)

        • Tmo rep2

          No one in CC has any information regarding dates for the refarm.

        • DCYinzer37

          The only issue I have with the home WiFi for the 4$ is that it’s only 802.11n at 2.4 GHz, not 5.8 GHz. Having that space is rather helpful. Not an issue with the Galaxy Nexus. :-)

        • Nearmsp

          I get a discount too. T-mobile’s discount is on the WHOLE bill. Others only give the first person (employee) in a family plan or just on data not voice. I was considering AT&T and realized T-mobile is a lot more ethical than the big two. Watch before you jump!

        • Lucas R


      • timmonss

        Verizon really isn’t that expensive when you have a family plan, and a good discount from work. My bill is exactly the same as it was when I was with T-Mobile. For individual plans, I agree, it’s way more expensive

  • JadedNYer

    I’m very happy with my BlackBerry. However, if I were on another carrier and out of contract I dont think I would make the jump since it would mean giving up carrier insurance. If I were planning to get a new unlocked iPhone, then I would definitely stay with T-Mobile provided the reframing works out but I would make sure to get Apple Care and keep my fingers crossed that the phone isn’t lost or stolen.

    • therealmikebrown

      Carrier insurance sucks, you pay 7 bucks a month than $135 to replace your phone with a refurb.
      You can Get a used phone on Craigs list for $200.

      • JadedNYer

        I don’t want to go the Craigslist or EBay route and I do what I think is best for me and my situation. And saying what the drawback would be for me.

        • Tony

          You must be math-challenged to buy carrier insurance on phones. This is the best deal for any carrier to make money out of stupid customers. You can buy 3rd party replacement insurance policy for much less.
          I’m sorry if you feel offended, but this is the truth.

        • Chris Hickman

          I’ve had 2 phones replaced by insurance and didn’t have to pay that much out of pocket. It worked for me.

        • JadedNYer

          I admit I am math challenged. If it were just me and my line I would not have insurance but I have high schoolers and things have been known to happen. It works for me and it is convenient. Plus, don’t we want t-Mobile to make money? ;)

  • D Velasquez

    i already several phones that can take advantage of this including my new Arrows X !!! oh, the Panasonic Eluga Power too!!

  • Aneirin

    What T-Mobile REALLY needs to do is publish a schedule of locations for the refarming, so we their customers can make choices based on information and not speculation.

    • chess

      all this news (and rumors) but where do I go test it my self. been unlocked/JB etc for the past three years.

    • farfromovin


    • jojo


    • CJ

      That is what I have been looking for. I’m ready to switch but need my data speed.

  • Joseph Tongret


  • auser72

    Off topic, but does the refarming have anything to do with bad coverage in areas that use to have good coverage. I noticed difference a couple months ago on 1hr commute to work. I have been driving same route over ten years and never had problems before.

    • SW

      customer care, it is possible some of the reframing caused a change. There is
      frequency reduction and construction involved. There is a chance you let them
      know exactly where you dropped(cross street or address) and they can

    • TMoFan

      I’ve been dealing with this too, and I suspect the refatm has something to do with it. As long as I had my G2 3G/4G has been perfect. Then in June, at the flip of a switch, it vanished and I’ve been on EDGE ever since. And not even good EDGE. At best I get about 30-40kbps! I’ve been making a lot of noise about it but I can’t get a straight answer out of T-Mobile.

      • ghulamsameer

        Trust me, if you’re getting 30-40 kbps, then that is some pretty good edge. It is rare for me to even get 20 kbps.

  • Wifey wants to do it, but I don’t. So I will have at least 1 on there…’Happy wife, happy home’ (for all you married guys out there, lol)

    • Whiskers


    • GwapoAko

      My wife’s iPhone was stolen yesteday :( now I am debating if I should just give her my iPhone 4$ and buy a galaxy s3 for me or just buy her an iPhone 3GS from ebay. I want her to be happy :0)

      • Soun Maokhamphiou

        Buy her a 3GS and she wont be happy

        • GwapoAko

          Lol :0) hmmm she likes the 3G that was stolen :0) I think it will be an upgrade :0)

        • MacRat

          Yes, a 3GS has a big performance advantage over the 3G iPhone.

      • You should, you should!!!

        • GwapoAko

          Thanks Bwahahaah!!!

        • Ford_Thundercougarfalconbird

          Buy her a GSIII… according to Apple it’s identical!

      • Pennypincher

        Let her have the new Galaxy S III….it is an awesome phone. If I was your wife, I wouldn’t take the “hand-me-down” phone! Geez!

  • TmoFan

    Come on Tmobile! I got 4 iPhones here in Orlando waiting for some 3G!

    • Fabian Cortez

      I can’t wait. It’s simply a flip of the switch at this point in time.

      Go to Settings -> Carrier and turn “Automatic” to “OFF” and you should see “T-Mobile (3G)” in addition to “T-Mobile” and “AT&T.”

      • ghulamsameer

        Aww… Mine still says “T-Mobile”. Looks like I have a while to go then.

      • I’ve noticed that, despite a static location, I’ll have “T-Mobile (3G)” and “T-Mobile” at times both available, and at other times, only “T-Mobile” (AT&T always) available.

        Not sure what that means really.

  • Flip

    Is 1900 MHz for data only? Or does it handle voice?

    • Fabian Cortez

      W-CDMA/HSDPA/HSPA+ handles both voice and data… at the same time!

      GSM/GPRS/EDGE is either-or.

      Both will be on 1900 MHz now.

    • Tmo rep2

      You’ll be able to use data and voice simultaneously.

  • Already using an iPhone 4S on T-Mobile’s network… can’t wait for that massive speed bump!

  • Mark

    I bought an unlocked 4S last Christmas and put it on TMobile. On a classic plan with 2 other family phones. Did not change the plan, as it wasn’t available at the time. Would like to know if I could now put 1 on value and the other’s on classic and get a better deal…

    • Tmo rep2

      Have you gotten upgrades in the other 2 lines? If not then why not put them all on Value?

  • mreveryphone

    19004g is still on here in Kansas City mo

  • cruzz563

    My current phone will light up with 3G when they turn it on, it’s not an iPhone, and I most likely won’t be keeping it however. Not sure what I’ll switch to yet, but it can be anything since I’m on a Value Plan and I won’t feel like I’m wasting money paying full price for an unlocked device.

  • Yes I will. I’ve been wanting the Xperia S for a little while, but the speed has been holding me back. Once the refarm is live here, I’ll be getting it. Pretty exciting.

  • I will either switch from my current GSIII to my original international Galaxy Note (only reason I barely use it is EDGE on TMO) or I may well splurge on a Galaxy Note 2. I absolutely will be bringing unlocked international phones to TMO. Not having to wait for their (heavily crapware infested) AWS version will be a huge liberation for me.

  • BigMixxx

    Asus padphone here I come!

    • 21stNow

      Make sure you share with us how you like it. I looked at the phone a while ago, but have lost interest now because other tablets have caught my eye (purse).

  • I’ll consider a Lumia 920 if T-Mobile doesn’t carry it. Depends on how great the 1900 3G is though.

  • achusaysblessyou

    I wouldn’t only because I find WiFi Calling to be almost indispensable which means I can only use T-mobile branded phones, so I just want T-mobile to get better phones (At least Galaxy Note II seems to be coming out on tmo)

  • steveb944

    I would possibly do it but I’m mostly waiting for a t-mobile LTE device

  • Chris Hickman

    According to the voting, many people want to use the iPhone. According to T-Mo’s ad, many people want to use the iPhone. Why are informed people using this site wanting to use the iPhone? I don’t understand the attraction to the iPhone for people with tech savvy… because that’s not who the phone is marketed to or made for.

    • 21stNow

      There are many reasons that people of any level of tech knowledge and comfort would prefer an iPhone. From fashion reasons to living in an Apple integrated environment to VPN usage reasons, some people prefer iPhones.

      The real question is why some people think that everyone has to like the same platform and if people don’t like it, they are uninformed? Do we all have to drive Fords, too?

  • Noel

    Gr8 move Tmo..i prefer them going this route of refarming and improving their Network rather than shedding all those billions like Sprint did only to get one phone. Not everyone want an iPhone but the possibility of bringing a myriad of unlocked devices to Tmo is very exciting. With their new affordable unlimited 4G plans…this will definitely bring hundreds of customers to Magenta. I have always bought my phones unlocked starting with the original Nokia N95. There have been many devices i wanted that had the 1900MHz bands but those bands were not available on Tmo, but now with the refarming the choices are endless. All ans all very good for Tmobile.

  • Derek

    I’d get an iPhone if I could use wifi calling. Can’t get service at my house or my dorm in college so when that’s available I’d be on that. ha

    • Wifi Calling

      Bobsled app is already available for iPhone. You can use that for wifi calling to any landline or mobile and it’s free.

      • Derek

        Didn’t know that. Thanks. lol

        • Bratty

          Bobsled is not wifi calling. I dont know why ppl keep messing with this question!

  • Ben_D_Over

    Been using an iPhone 4S with the $30/month 100 minute voice/unlimited text&data plan since last November. It’s well within my usage pattern on the voice side and EDGE has been fine for checking e-mail and getting stock quotes. The prepaid price is thus perfect based on my usage such that even with the upfront costs of the unlocked 4S, I still save around $700 over the course of 2 years if I had gone with either AT&T or Verizon (where I’d be paying much higher rates for voice minutes which I wouldn’t even be making use of).

    Any data speed boost provided by this re-farming will just be gravy.

  • If Tmo doesnt get the rumored HTC One X+, then I will sell my unlocked GSM Galaxy Nexus and buy the original, quad core One X and use it on the refarmed network.

    • 21stNow

      Have you seen and used the quad-core One X in person? I was a “gotta have quad-core” person, but the One X failed to impress me. Unless you are a gamer, you might be happier with the Galaxy Nexus. Even as a gamer, the jerky graphics might be a turn-off.

      The quad-core One X isn’t a bad phone. It just isn’t something to write home about.

  • izzaTmoFan

    Just called my local tmo store in So. Orange Co. They dont have ANY info about this nor do they have a unlocked 4s for demo purposes….

  • YoureProbADumbass

    i want one x+ baby!

  • blwebb68

    I really don’t trust it. They are asking for you to bring a phone over on a promise. We all have experienced T-Mobile telling us that something was coming only to take their sweet time. We hope it’s only December

    • philyew

      Wait until it’s available then. They aren’t asking you to commit there and then.
      There will clearly be areas where there is full service on the 1900 Mhz band in the coming weeks and TM will be selling the heck out of that fact to draw in new customers and maybe hold on to others who would otherwise be heading out for the new iPhone.

  • Remember that the still-awesome Galaxy Nexus is just $350 unlocked.


    • DCYinzer37

      Well, came out to $381 w/ tax and shipping (for me, YMMV), but it is indeed awesome, and NO BLOATWARE!

      • Yeah, but consider that the same exact phone is being sold for $400+ refurbished, for some reason. And it is running pure Google Jelly Bean very, very fast. :)

  • Makoute

    Maybe if the Nokia 920 works with it, I will consider buying an unlocked 920.

  • gomez

    NEGRI and EXPANSY STORES are OVERPRICED SOBs….stop ripping people off….

    • MacRat

      Yup. Compare the prices to NewEgg.

  • efjay

    Without better coverage I can’t imagine why you would want to.

  • Weston Dunn

    I got my iPhone unlocked at infinitycodes.com for $30! It was freaking easy. Just ordered the unlock and then had to plug it into iTunes. I can’t wait for faster internet on tmobiles cheaper plans. T-mobile for life!

  • Junior


    So this means who have the Samsung Galaxy S3 Global Version Gt-I9300 will be getting 4G speed?? I am only getting edge. If it is, Do I need to add new setting in my phone??

  • Anthony Jackson

    HELL YEAH, because the refarmed spectrum will be upon us soon! Either way I’m saving in the long term!

  • 21stNow

    David I know that there are a lot of fanboy wars on here, but there are people who will bring an iPhone, a Windows phone and an Android over to T-Mobile. Why make us choose either iPhone or “everything else”?

    • philyew

      Good point! ;-)

    • Probably because T-Mobile themselves are mainly rushing to get this done mostly for iPhone compatibility. Plus the iPhone 4S launch year was the biggest customer loss ever for T-Mobile. They don’t want a repeat of that. They know how important the device is.

    • Just for the sake of argument, the outcome of the poll wouldn’t have changed if I specified windows phone or android, the same people would respond in the same manner. T-Mobile is making this about the iPhone, not me.

  • Nearmsp

    Does Google International calling work on iPhone like on Android? I call international and the Google rates are 1/5th Skype rates. I want to be able to have this feature should I buy a new unlocked iphone at full price and bring to T-mobile. thanks.

    • MacRat

      Google Voice is just a call forwarding service. It doesn’t matter what mobile phone you have. You can even have your GV account forward to a land line or an internet SIP account.

      • Nearmsp

        I think you and I are talking two different things. Right now if I dial any international number, my call does not show up on T-mobile. It goes on a Google account and I pay for it separately. I also have Google voice mail. I am referring only to international calls. Will I be able to do that from an iPhone on T-mobile as well?

        • MacRat

          No, we are talking about the same thing.

          You just don’t understand how Google Voice works.

          When you dial any number whether local or international, GV calls you locally and then calls the number you are dialing from their domestic/international bridge and connects you together.

          Their process is so seamless, you just think you are calling internationally directly from your phone.

  • DCYinzer37

    Already made the equipment switch, with my wife using a iPhone 4S and a Galaxy Nexus for myself. No bloatware on the latter, and I am LOVING it. I’m sure that pesky E on the 4S will be a welcomed absence for the wife, too. She wanted something that “just worked”, and the T-Mo Android offerings we were using just weren’t up to snuff.

    Now, once I get the lines off contract, we’ll be golden. :-)

  • orbit

    If your in the top 30+ markets then awesome, some smaller markets aren’t getting refarmed till mid/late 2013

  • So I have tmobile (galnex), and my girl has a verizon droid razr with lte. Speedtests: my phone averages 5-10 mbps, and hers averages between 17-25 mbps.. much faster, yes… on paper. Now, the real test ( IMHO) is actual use and performance. We set our phones side by side, and loaded up 10 different webpages. My phone won 7 out of 10 times. Processor, GPU, software version, etc all have a lot to do with performance. For example, I have a flashlight thats pretty bright. It takes AA batteries. If I put D batteries in it its not going to be brighter !
    Same thing with smartphones. On the flipside, with verizon charging overages, my girlfriend is paying an extra $20-$30 a month in data overages. She ends up paying almost THRICE what I do, and in the end our devices perform the same, except her higher bandwith results in her being throttled fairly early in the month.

    The phrase “you get what you pay for” is a double edged sword.

    P.S. Im in the Washington dc area and 3g on 1900mhz is a go.

    • 21stNow

      I’m checking in Silver Spring and still seeing Edge on the iPhone.

      • my buddy in burtonsville is seeing 3g, as is friends very close to dc. I work in laurel and its still 2g there. 2g in wheaton as well. no biggie to me my gnex does everything I want. right away. well…..except the occasional grey mic during voice to text smh

    • MacRat

      Sounds like your phone only has HSPA+ 14Mbs radio.

  • Dakota

    how to get unlimited don’t you have to sign a 2 year contract? I don’t think people with iPhone Four’s are gonna wanna sign up for 2 years

    • GwapoAko

      You can get true unlimited if you sign on the Value Plan and then on the monthly 4G plan of $30 100 mins, unlimited text and 5GB of 4G and throttled after you reach the 5GB/

  • LinuxFrenzy

    I would really love to be able to have a high end Motorola phone on T-Mobile.Since it seems all the good Moto phones are on Verizon.

  • kev2684

    is the hspa+42mbps on 1900 band too? i really really really hope for hspa+42 compatibility for the next nexus.

  • Guest

    Whats the big deal about the refarmed network? Its gonna be so sporatic, so its not like your gonna get service all the time.

    • That’s not true at all, it should encompass the majority of the network. If this was the case, we wouldn’t spend nearly the time we do spend covering it. I think that’s fairly obvious.

  • Whitney

    I will once the refarming done and the iphone is out

  • Already have a 4S on T-Mobile. I’m in one of their major markets so the refarm hopefully will be done here soon. Can’t wait for unlimited iPhone data.

  • FILA

    you forgot a choice on the poll

    “Oh Fuckk no, fuck Apple, Andy all the way out baby”

  • izzatmofan

    My local Tmo Store (South Orange Co.) has NO INFO about 4s in-store demo scheduled to start tomorrow.

  • Greg

    I hope T-mobile plan on lighting up some big markets tomorrow on their reframe 1900 network because it wouldnt make sense to start grabbing unlocked iphones now only to tell the customer, you’ll see 3G/4G on your iphone in December then locked them into a 2 year contract with no certainly. Why can they wait till they’re sure their network is ready then start promoting. What’s the rush with the iphone unlocked ads if you’re still gonna be on Edge. Hate to be that sucker, in the next coming weeks!

  • taron19119

    Ok how do I get at&t ipad to work on t-mobile

    • MacRat

      You simply go to the T-Mobile store and get a data only plan on a Micro SIM.

  • Anonymous

    Yes.. Probably the htc one x or the Sony xperia S


    T-Mobile needs to do three things: 1. Advertise the refarming efforts and explain what a unlocked device is and can do on their network. 2.Make a online list of phones that will be able to take advantage of the new bands, and update the list often. 3. Make a interactive map of the new coverage areas, updating it every so often. That is all….


    I especially would like to see a list of recent devices that can be used now that the refarming is halfway complete. I live in Queens, NY and that airportal.de link shows that most of my borough is covered, would love to take advantage of it with a sexy european device

  • Freak4Dell

    I already have an unlocked phone on T-Mobile, but I’m ready for a new phone. I would love it if they would do the refarm in my area so that I can get the Razr M.

  • illegaloperation

    I want to see how well T-Mobile network will serve the Nokia Lumia 920.

  • Pinkdomo

    It’s cool Tmo doesn’t get the iphone, but at least tell us when the network will be compatible so potential customers have an idea! I’m getting the iphone 5 first thing when it becomes available, but Tmo’s reluctance to reveal her schedule of network refarm is making me nervous, maybe it’ll never come to our city (a relatively small market in the midwest).

  • MisterBlue

    I wonder if the Lumia 920 will work on the new network, since Tmobile will most likely only get the 820.

  • Regina G

    I wonder if its true that the iPhone is supposed to get 3G in chicago by mid night or tomorrow morning…. I wonder.. thats what the store told me they received a email that tomorrow it will light up because they been working in chicago for it for about 3 months… I guess ill have to wait and see…. if anyone knows anything let me know :)

  • Milad

    I had an iphone with Tmobile since 2008…. It’s time to get something better than 2G ….

  • Arn

    I actually am leaning towards buying the phone off-contract from TMob directly – they unlock it, I get wifi-calling, and if I feel the need I can root it. PS. I’m not an iPhone lover by any means and wifi-calling (along with affordable 4g monthly plans) is the greatest feature out there.

  • blacbla

    No Iphone5 Ha. My wife has a 3GS but we will never see that band in our area. Why would you to use 2G while tmobile will never bring a usable to to your area.

  • BigMixxx

    After seeing today’s annoucement on iPhone. I see why T mobile refuses to actually subsidize. This was not apples’ best showing…

    Bloggers are about to go straight up old testament on apple…


    Looks like the iPhone 5 will support T-Mobile’s 1900 bands obviously. Guess the Apple heads can relax now.


  • If AT&T doesn’t unlock your iPhone so you can switch to T-Mobile, you can use UnlockStreak activations for iTunes, which basically turns iTunes into iPhone unlock software. The UnlockStreak activation is executed through iTunes and does a permanent unlock just like the unlock from AT&T.

  • izzatmofan

    I thought Apple wouldnt give tmo the phone because tmo didnt want to commit to selling ‘n’ number of phones at $billion(s) … how come many of the smaller (obscure) regional carriers are selling it ? If subsidy is the issue, let tmo sell it at full retail like the other carriers ??

  • RobotChupacabra

    I’d be interested in going with an iPhone 5 off contract unlocked, since one of the 3 models will fully work on T-Mo’s HSPA+ and LTE networks. Not having a contract is worth it to me at this point to just buy the phone unlocked when they start selling it unlocked in a month.

  • James

    Seeing 3G today in LA area (Alhambra)

  • StickyIcky

    What are we referring to when we say ‘the high price of unlocked phones’? Are we just simply referring to the cost of paying full price for a phone? Or is there some fee for bringing one over?

    • vpsaxman

      No fee. He’s referring to the price of an unlocked device vs. a subsidized one.

      • StickyIcky

        Then its really not a ‘high cost’ other than what one has to put up front. I think claiming that buying your phone unlocked and going on Tmobile has ‘higher cost’ is misleading.

        I recently went to the At&t site to configure my options… if I were to switch, it turns out I would pay $40 MORE a month on their plan. $40 x 24 months = $960! Assuming the phone I want is subsidized for $199, now we’re talking $1,160 MORE out of my pocket to switch to At&t for the phone I want. Paying $500 – $700 outright for the unlocked phone isn’t a higher cost, its actually the opposite.

        That may not apply to everyone I guess, and if someone wants like 4 iPhones or something, I guess they may not have $2,500 – $3,000 lying around to buy them unlocked, I understand that. But its still not ‘higher’ overall.

  • anon

    Why couldn’t the author devote a single sentence to explaining what the hell “REFARMED” is?

    I read the whole article and have no clue whatsoever what he is talking about.

  • Sal

    I’m from NYC and still no 3G on my 4S.

  • GinaDee

    T-Mobile needs to be more forthcoming with their customers about network upgrades. We’re on the eve of 2013 and we have1990’s GPRS technology in more places than any other wireless carrier in the US.

    When T-Mobile says they are “done,” with any network expansion all it means is that they don’t plan to do any more. They never build out new technology across their entire network just enough to cover their favorite 200 or 220 million POPS.

    I want a commitment that their entire US geo network will be HSPA+ covered by the end of 2013 with 250 million POPS served by LTE Advanced by the end of 2014 at the very minimum.

    Using a smartphone like the iPhone sucks when it’s stuck in GPRS/EDGE land. If I’m going to fork over $700 or $800 for an unlocked iPhone it better work good on the network I pay every month.

  • 14 year customer ..

    Yep, I’m bringing the iPhone 5 to TM in October. Unlocked of course from the Apple Store. Actually two of them. We are pretty excited. Wish we knew the date for nano sim availabiltiy ?

  • izzatmofan

    Dave, is it possible to sort this comment section “newest first” ?

  • Flatland_Skier

    Too little, too late. I’ve used an unlocked phone on T-mobile’s network over the last several years, but I am moving to another service because T-mobile is really no longer a deal. I can use a pre-paid card for $45/month with real 3g and decent coverage. St. Louis( where I live ) could get re-farmed and I’d still have bad coverage along Interstate 70. I can’t even get Edge through trips across the state. Pathetic.

    • vpsaxman

      I suppose you’re talking about Straight Talk. If I’m right, no tethering and arbitrary data limits are a deal breaker for me.

  • Sil

    I have 3G on my iphone 4S and it is pretty fast. I am happy! BTW I am in Los Angeles, CA.

  • Sil

    I am actually watching a show on Netflix and do not need wifi! Yay! :-)

  • Zeke

    My wife and I already have our factory unlocked iPhones on T-mobile. Been there for a long time now. There are many advantages. Ever get those spam 800 calls in Spanish, for instance? AT&T sells call blocking for up to 30 numbers for $4.95 PER MONTH, so you cannot find a phone number blacklist app in Apple’s app store. After jailbreaking Cydia has iBlacklist. It features unlimited call blocking for a one time fee of $12.95.

  • pete

    just bought an LG 4X HD and waiting for dallas refarm to kick in

  • 5hifty

    Any unlocked iPhone for Tmobile atm will only be able to use Edge. Since Tmobile’s bands arn’t in the iphones chip for broadcast. So your pay full price for an unlocked iphone to use speeds lower than 2g? Its worthless unless Tmobile decides to go LTE or more bands for 4G. but we will never know when.

    • bob90210

      You seemed to have missed the part about T-Mobile’s refarmed network in story.

  • ms6td

    I was in Schaumburg, IL with my Sony Ericsson Mini Pro Android phone and notice for the first time ever 4G!! Refarming has started in the Chicagoland area finally. I live in Niles, but only 2G Edge.