Oh Hai Motorola, Wherefore Art My Updates?

I think the question I get asked the most lately is when is “insert Android device name here” getting updated to “insert latest Android software here”. When I say I get asked this the most, I mean it’s usually a more common question than when the next best phone is coming out for T-Mobile.  I really want to make this a scolding Motorola post because I think it’s incredibly disheartening and bad form that they have been so silent on updates for the Cliq and Cliq XT.  Personally, I think it just sucks all around that all the manufacturers and the carriers have been so quiet regarding future updates.  I understand the need to not make promises that they can’t necessarily keep but the typical short paragraph press garbage just isn’t cutting it anymore.

Back when the Samsung Behold II debacle first started unfolding, I made it a point that I think it’s wrong to purchase a phone based on uncertain future capabilities. You don’t buy a car that way, so why buy a phone.  Perhaps those are two totally unrelated examples but I can only say the way Samsung handed the situation was poor at best, downright sad at worst.  I love Samsung products and when my Vibrant review FINALLY gets posted, it’s going to be glowing.  That being said, I still don’t trust Samsung or Motorola or, most importantly, T-Mobile to be straight about when Android updates are coming.

Motorola, you need to man up and talk about when and where updates are coming, even if it’s a totally wide berth.  Just talk about it. I’d rather see you give a wrong date than be completely silent about it and just let the anger build.  I understand this is a difficult game we are playing and that tailoring an operating system with updates likely takes a lot of time, testing and that all factors in to how long it takes before the public sees anything.  That doesn’t excuse or in any way shape or form give a pass to your silence.

Bug fix updates are great and they are always welcome but they are nothing more than a band aid to a broken arm.  Take a look at the Motorola Cliq official forum and see the anger continues to grow and grow and grow.  The word of the moderating staff is no longer trusted and yet Motorola remains silent.  I don’t even know what to call it, but it’s just wrong.  Neither the carriers nor the manufacturers are sworn by law to provide Android users with updates but they are bound to follow through on promises.  If for some reason they have to push back such a promise, something more than a standard four-line press release might do some good.

Ball is in your court Motorola.  What say you?

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  • dajuan

    ok so i just recently bought a mytouch 3g and after doing some research found out that i should indeed be getting android 2.2 but …..WHERE IS IT! before this i had the g1 and it seems like im running the exact same os just on a g1 without a keyboard. im still on android 1.6 just like my cousins g1 what the hell

    • http://none Adrian

      same here,but i never owned a g1 just messed with one…..
      i hate being so far back in the new cool lookin android 2.2 Cmon ..

  • adam

    Motorola isnt as bad as all of you think . Their droid is better then cliq fag phone lol! You guys were all dumb to believe t-mobile and motorola. Verizon is so much better. Samsung still suck they only update the behold 2 1.5 to 1.6 in 8 month later took them to 3rd of june to update there phone. I feel bad for all you sammy vibrant when u get the same treatment again. If you not verizon or sprint u wont get passed beyond 2.2 os lol Look at t-mobile,verizon,sprint phone from last year and this year comparison.

    Motorola Droid NOV 6 2009 preloaded with 2.0 os,upgraded 2.0.1 in dec,2.1 in march 28 and august 3rd for 2.2 os
    Htc Droid eris NOV 6 2009 preloaded with 1.5 os and upgraded 2.1 os.
    Htc incredible Apr 28, 2010 preloaded with 8gh internal memory and 2.1 os and as htc said 2.2 os coming out in aug 18th. Plus htc mention they will get 3.0 os in q1 2010.
    Droid x July 15,2010 preloaded with 2.1 os and upgrading 2.2 os in sept.
    Droid 2 Aug 12,2010 preloaded with 2.2 os with upgrade option on 3.0 os.

    Htc hero October 19,2009 preloaded with 1.5 and manual update on sprint.com in may 19th 2010 for 2.1 os.
    Samsung moment Oct 25,2009 preloaded with 1.5 os with manual update on sprint.com in may 12,2010 for 2.1 os.

    Google g1 october 22,2008 preloaded with 1.0 os,receive 1.1 os in march,1.5 in late may, 1.6 in october 2nd 2009.
    Mytouch3g Aug 2009. Preloaded with 1.5 got with 1.6 in october 2nd,2010

    Now since then t-mobile only updated once there android phones.
    Samsung behold 2 Nov 21,2009 preloaded with 1.5 and received 1.6 in June 25,2010.
    Motorola cliq nov 3rd,2009 preloaded with 1.5 os never got an update yet!
    Motorola cliq qt March 2010 preloaded with 1.5 os never got an update yet!
    Mytouch 1.2 or Mytouch fender remember the promotion was saying it was suppose to get updated to 2.1 os in febuary 2010.
    Garment phone in june 2010 preloaded with 1.6 os yet to get an update. In my option it should of coming with 2.1 os already.

    This problem the cliq has is not a motorola thing is t-Mobile being lazy thing. So David stop flaming motorola. If t-mobile is too lay back is there problem not manufacture.

    Mytouch slide June 13,2010 preloaded with 2.1 os so far.
    Samsung vibrant July 16,2010 preloaded with 2.1 os so far.

    I laugh at t-mobile if my Original Droid get 3.0 os before t-mobile upgraded their phone. Which i wouldnt hold my breath or buys another phone with 3.0 os instead of taking responsibility and upgrading there phone like sprint and verizon does. Anyone here should take note that t-mobile dont care about customer when it comes to update since the g1 days and mytouch some what. 1 phone got an update since november that was behold 2. 1 out of 6 phones that a shame t-mobile !

    • meeee

      Why are you even here? The droid 1 has the worst keyboard on a phone I’ve ever seen, and at least the cliqs keyboard works. And did you even consider that you were getting faster updates because its not skinned at all?

    • hd2 moses

      WRONG i got 2.2 on my hd2

    • j

      Desperate for attention are you? Vibrant rocks droid X to sleep, please verizon only has one thing over tmo, higher prices!! JD POWER winner for customer service going away, gotta love getting great help with a problem!

      • Charles Xavier

        Keep telling yourself that… the Droid X is ridiculously better than the Vibrasuck. Also on Verizon you get 3G everywhere, not just a mile of a major city.

    • 67_390_coupe

      You no speakee de engrish so gud, eh?

    • Bobert

      Please lean to type proper English.

    • Chris

      For your information, T-mobile isn’t doing the updates, the manufacturer does… T-mobile is still a phone carrier not a software/hardware company that has programmers to create an update for their phones. It is and always is the manufacturers fault why these phones never got any updates. HECK if your still stuck up to now, why WAIT? ROOT the freaking phone! All t-mobile does is provide the updates via OTA.

  • adam

    FYI i forget to mention that htc evo that came out in june3rd 2010 with sense ui. preloaded with 2.1 os and got the update 2.2 os at same time as the droid in aug 3rd, 2010. T-mobile has mytouch slide since about june 13,2010 and yet update beyond 2.1 os. I say is t-mobile fault not motorola.

    • j

      yeah and how do you know when not even a tmo customer, BYE BYE. Motorol could not be more to blame, BLUR=GARBAGE

    • Bobert

      Please learn to type in proper English.

      • Scott

        Engrish Adam…Engrish prease!!!

  • http://squarecat.com Scott B

    A car is a strange analogy, seeing as how a smartphone is computer, plain and simple. And when was the last time you couldn’t upgrade your desktop or notebook at least one version of the OS. Certainly some people would encounter problems but there was also far more hardware configurations, not to mention old or shoddy software to contend with.

    But (un-rooted/un-jailbroken) smartphones have a finite and controlled environment based on a well-defined set of specs. There’s little excuse for indefinite delays, other than some combination of ignorance and indifference.

    Or perhaps an internal conflict is to blame, which certainly seems likely given the clusterfrak that is Motoblur, while the Droid family seems unstoppable. Just look at the CLIQ quality control issues: at best, it was a crapshoot *which* problems each one might have.

    As has happened in the not to distant past, a significant number of Motorola customers are left holding a decent piece of hardware that is handicapped by out of date software, an easy fix to be sure (as proven by the dev community.)

    Denying there is an issue with Android OS updates, as you and even Google have, is to dismiss those who spent hard earned money on a device they expected to work as promised (which it hasn’t), and that is an insult.

  • D

    Here we go again with the car analogy. Since everyone loves using it so much I’ll give it a try. what if you had the choice of 2 cars the first was decent nothing special but you knew what you were getting. The second car was a little better but not by much it cost a little more but the dealership promised you free gas for a year if you bought it. Now it’s been 3 months since you purchased the 2nd car and you still haven’t received your free gas by some people on this site’s logic this would be ok because you were going to buy a car anyway so they don’t have to keep their promise of the free gas…

    what a lot people don’t understand is people feel like they were lied to. Personally if I had known it would take this long to get an update on my XT (if we even get one) I would have held on to my crappy razor until a better phone came along

  • hd2 moses

    LOL i even have froyo running on my hd2 HAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHA

    • j

      HD2=EPIC FAIL, now with android, just dunno. That is nice but hope you don’t need an exchange

      • 67_390_coupe

        You don’t void warranty at all running Android on the HD2.

      • hd2 moses

        moto cliq = epic fail, 2.2 is running faster on my hd2 then the nexus, even if the cliq was able to run 2.2 it wouldnt run good anyways, look at live wallpapers HA! quadrant score of 1900 i have pics to prove it

  • Devan

    I used to have the behold 2 but got tired of it and switched to the cliq. I have had the cliq since March and I love the phone. I am just sick of not getting any updates. I updated my cliq to 2.1 by downloading the leak software and using Rsd lite. Since I updated it to 2.1 myself, I love my cliq even more now. But next week I am going to buy the Vibrant and say goodbye to Motorola for good unless they come out with a phone just as better with promised updates.

  • Dee

    T-Mobile is really starting to irritate me…
    they launched android and somehow let VZW and Sprint steal the spotlight. from the 1.6 debacle to only releasing mid range devices – minus the vibrant – T-mobile is being really lax about it all. I actually want the Iphone to launch on TMO now that i think about it. If it did it would put so much pressure on the vendors to defend their spots at TMO, which in turn would have the vendors put pressure on TMO. Competition is good.

    • j

      Sorry Dee, I for one hope the iphone does not come to TMO. It is that great and android is better. Vibrant to me is better then any iphone

      • Kyle

        The iPhone may suck even compared to the G1. But the iPhone on T-mo will be the one thing that sends them straight up to 2nd place. Android is the king. But people still want that shiny apple logo.

  • Exec4Future

    I dont care what anyone says. Motorola makes junk. Droid is junk. Cliq is junk. Worst hardware. Terrible Software. Blur is awful. there really is nothing good about Motorola. Wish they wouldve died with the RAZR

  • adam

    Droid keyboard can be wack but it better to get update then to be all u fool with same os for 1 year or so . Lol cliq sucks! Motorola care about u if ur verizon customer so keep defending t-mobile. That why u need to buy vibrant to upgraded os because t-mobile cant update your device like sprint and verizon. In world of does t-mobile doesnt at least for upgrades os/updating there phone lmfao!

  • adam

    T-mobile is layback u will watch them this winter not updating your mytouch slide and samsung vibrant pass beyond 2.2 os. Moto droid can be garbage but at least we sold 1.5 million in 73 days. No phone in t-mobile can say that. Not in 2 month and 2 weeks . FYI google g1 took 4 to 5 month to get to 1 millions users. T-mobile is epic with there updates very slow and doesnt meet demand, that why they make u guys buy new phone for the update. WOW! Even att doesnt do that with there iphone or blackberry user. No verizon with there android phones and the same for sprint.

  • adam

    @me im here because im tired of t-mobile as there owner and lying to there customer. Obviously u guys like getting lied to and waste more money on those loser. I cant wait until Cellular south take t-mobile for four place in carriers in usa. I bought a g1 even that was better then cliq i had. Since i had my droid i have all my expection meet. I even have flash player 2.2 os in moto droid. As mark said in motorola forum it t-mobile fault for not getting u guys 2.1 os not moto. David should stfu when he doesnt know what he is saying. Motorola only send the update on carrier approval not on there demands. That why verizon is the best at doing is listening to customer and responding as quick as they can. Cant wait for gingerbread on my droid without rooting throw it in ppl face. As t-mobile will struggle to get froyo update to there current phone. Just like the mytouch original was suppose to get 2.2 os hasnt yet!

    • TMOprophet

      Hey I understand exactly what you’re saying and I have to agree with much of it. Problem is you are trying to tell a bunch of TMO fanboys that will defend TMO no matter how crappy they perform business.

      And while I like being with TMO, I do feel like they exist merely because they offer lower prices on plans, cause its not because of the phone lineup…

      If they charged as much as everyone else, they would go out of business, which may happen eventually in the form of a merger with another carrier, but I won’t speculate too much on that right now.

      And I don’t care if everyone gets mad at me for saying this, I try to be objective about this, I do in fact like TMO, just sorely dissapointed in the phone lineup and support, they started an Android revolution and now wimper in the corner like a scared puppy while Verizon pummels them relentlessly.

      They shouldnt have started it all without supporting it and marketing it aggressively.

      And the mytouch, I know, my wife was all excited when they announced it would get , and here we are still waiting. I know it takes time, but come on.

    • Bobert

      Please stop typing in horrible English

  • dave

    I tried updating my cliq with the leaked 2.1 update but can’t for the life of me find a copy of RSD lite lol, anyone know where I can get a copy so I can get off this silly 1.5?

  • atlantian

    if you all have complaints organize a large group of people online use face book or something to call t-mobile at the same time to bitch about updates but you would have to spread the word and get at least 1,000 people and for them to call more than once and have them spread the word like a virus to more android users too call customer care on a certain day

  • dubya504

    Tmobile is NOT Listening!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • adam

    Good point tmoprophet. I Unlock a Droid device without being in Verizon and did the manual update on 2.2 os of Verizon from android forum when they started the roll-out on fro-yo! Verizon said their thinking of upgrading Original Droid user with droid 2 to gingerbread for Christmas. At least Verizon care about there customer. I still pay t-mobile for my g1 plan and i’m happy with droid . Embarrassing that t-mobile still want to be cheap and not upgrade that why ppl buy google phones.

    • Bobert

      Your use of the English language Is embarrassing!

  • adam

    Atlatian I did that when t-mobile didn’t want to upgrade the cliq so t-mobile doesn’t care. Neither do I cant wait for them to sink and go bankrupt for there dumb decision.

  • adam

    dave go to http://modmymobile.com/forums/f399/ to at least 2.1 os hack on your cliq

  • Nev

    Yeah the eclair2cliq rom is in beta now, and is actually really pretty good. Camera, headphone wifi and 3g all work. However I have trouble sending media through sms (a pic message to a friend) and haven’t gotten bluetooth working yet.

  • Charles

    There a saying, you pay for what you get. T-mobile cost less because you get lest, and Verizon cause more because you get more. It’s all about what you want to pay for. But then on the other hand that’s not always true, because a friend of mine got Straight-Talk, and he got unlimited everything for about $50.00 buck – talk, text , and web with excellent coverage. I think the world is changing and people is still looking for a good deal. Who knows as things start to get tighter for people they might just leave them all and go to Straight-Talk at least they got me listening and i’am with T-Mobile.

  • adam

    Well charles your friends cant get android or any update for that matter in his phone. Verizon do care about update/upgrading there phones to latest os. T-mobile doesnt anymore so there a waste of money with there lack of promises and commitment to upgrading there os….

  • Fish

    What’s the name of the facebook page with people that hate motorola that has like 700 people?

    • jonathan

      Screwed by Motorola. I’m on there, lol.

  • gozer

    The hd2 wasn’t expected to run android and now it is running 2.2 I am glad it started out as windows if not it would probably have 1.5 android. Don’t hate appreciate!!!!

  • Patric

    Some people on here just make a fool of themselves with what they say and how they type. Anyways, I’m waiting g on 2.2 for my mytouch and recently I rooted and loaded cyanogen mod 2.2 on it and although it does have bugs it will hold me over until i finally get the real froyo

    • adam

      Who that your talking about me? Im not the only one who feel this way toward t-mobile look at mytouch original forums and cliq/cliq qt forum. Dont worry we will see the samsung vibrant getting the same customer and treatment from t-mobile and samsung again.

      • adam

        NO update now a days equal no money.. Look at how successful Verizon and sprint getting for their android phones.. T-mobile soon we be in bankrupt or trying to partner with one of the top 3 companies in usa.

      • Bobert

        I think they are making fun of your retarded use of English.

    • adam

      Rooting because t-mobile doesnt want customer to have the least os. Without buying another device.

  • dubya504

    Like Michael Jackson’s song. All I want to is that TMOBILE Don’t Care About Us!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • dubya504

    Sorry I forgot word “Say”

  • None

    and saying around here is t-mobile’s new name is t-maybe. maybe you got signal or maybe you might get updated are maybe your phone works its T-mobiles new name T-Maybe.

    • adam

      It is t-maybe lol maybe they wont update lmfao maybe they will tell you the truth.

    • JoshL

      sadly this new name (T-Maybe) is spreading across the web. kind of embarrassing.. if I did not have a family plan, I would have switched already.

  • pug_ster

    I was out of a contract of my phone plan and I got my cliq xt when I can get this phone for $27 upgrade fees for upgrade, shipping and taxes. The best thing is that I got the el cheapo $30 voice only plan but I have to pay about $39 with taxes and fees. I am using wifi for data as I used APNDroid to disable 3g. Too bad the deal is not there anymore and I probably would not get this phone if I was not under the circumstances if I was in.

    • adam

      Good dont get any android phones from t-mobile until they know how to approve update from manufacture like they lack since last year. 1 update for about 6 android phones they got this year that pathetic from t-mobile. Is Motorola fault it t-mobile and there lazy cheap a33 self

      • adam

        Is not motorola fault i meant to say

  • None

    In my house we have always called it T-Maybe, because are signal is always going up and down. so i made the name up as T-maybe. maybe i’ll have signal today or maybe i won’t. and there phones always so behind in everything seems like they always got the leftovers. i do got the samsung vibrant on its way to me any day now coming. t-mobile is sending me it…because of the cliq problems. so i am hoping that this phone doesn’t end up being like a leftover again. But its sad to say lately T-mobile has been more maybe’s, they need to be more aggressive to these companys that are not putting there customers first. But when it comes to T-mobile’s customers service it is the best thats why i stay. there customer service has always been awesome toward us. calling about the cliq and they are sending a samsung vibrant to replace my cliq. they were awesome to me. i know some people were not so successfull in getting a replacement. sorry’s go out to them. i know how they feel. hope t-mobile stands up to motorola and tells them they aren’t taken there crap.

    • adam

      Trust me none t-mobile gave me four cliqs and all of them was defected.This Gave me headache. since the sidekick era. This another reason why i don’t trust t-maybe with there false promotions and promises. T-maybe cant even upgrade there phone either ugh!

  • Barry

    Yo y’all dudes better stop worrying about T-Mobile and learn how to type, spell and use proper English lmao

    • adam

      Dude stfu your probably white. Im not !

      • Bobert

        What does skin color have to do with your horrible use of English?

      • jonathan

        Racial much? Ban ban ban!!!

  • None

    Sorry I did miss spell some things. kind of busy. I don’t get much time on the computer as I would like… and when I do have time. Its very little tim… these days. I got 18 month old running around. so excuse me.

  • droidfish2

    Just give my DX 2.2….. :)

  • Barry

    Ugh far from white, and for you to say that on a site for thousands of ppl to see just knocked us down a few pegs c’mon man? Yea I know its hard watching other carriers launch better phones, update their old phones with the latest android firmware. I get that my thing is if you gone come, come correct. Otherwise you look foolish. Also I guess I’m not as much of a cell phone geek as I thought compared to some of the people who come on here. I’m not knocking it I’m just saying, I don’t take it as serious as some of my other Tmonews brothers/sisters do.

  • twbradio

    OK, I am a Cliq XT owner, so I have some skin in this game. The issue is T-Mobile’s in many ways, but not because they are making decisions about when the updates are released on their network. Yes, a carrier may delay an update for a week or two to spread the bandwidth hit and to allow time to train their support personnel, but when you have been waiting for months on end for the update, it isn’t the carrier’s fault. In the early G1 days, which I was a part of, there were some issues in getting Android stable enough to release on the device and this did cause some issues as well. That wasn’t HTC, that was Google. The Google issue has fairly well gone away as the Android team has a better OS to work with than they did back then and they have a lot more experience rolling it out. The reason that T-Mobile shares the blame in this is because of their selection of phones. Name the big Android phones and, until the Vibrant, you will not be naming a T-Mobile device. In March when I bought my XT, I had a choice of the G1 (yes they were still selling it then), Samsung Behold II, Cliq and the MyTouch 3g. The G1 was ancient, the Behold II was a dead device because of the update problem, the Cliq didn’t compare well to the MyTouch in several ways (smaller screen being just one) and the MyTouch was looked and felt like a toy. The Nexus one doesn’t count, as a current T-Mobile customer I was so penalized when considering a Nexus one that it didn’t make sense. None of the T-Mobile released units were devices that the manufacturers would consider on their A list. I bought the Cliq XT thinking that it might be Motorola’s next big hit and I was just waiting for the press and the commercials to come … they didn’t. The phone was released to an awe-inspiring silence from both the carrier and the manufacturer. The Charm will probably get more press and it is a ludicrous device.

    Think about it, in March of 2010, T-Mobile had no Android devices with Ghz processors or 4 inch screens. When you don’t have a flagship device, the updates come around when the manufacturers get to them – which isn’t very often.

    Think … manufacturer flagship devices by carrier:
    ATT – iPhone
    Verizon – Droid, Droid Incredible
    Sprint – HTC Hero, Evo 4G
    T-Mobile – G1

    Yes, I left the Samsung Galaxy S line off of the list. In a way they don’t count, because they will be available on every carrier. That said, ATT has a custom shell (carbon fiber looking evidently), Verizon has a flash for the camera and Sprint has a keyboard and a flash for the camera … T-Mobile has a copy of Avatar include with hardware that doesn’t feel solid according to the reviewers and the blogs (and yes, I have held it in the store – but with that glued-on zip line it is hard to tell how a phone feels). It may be a great phone, but the Verizon and Sprint versions will be considered better and if you haven’t noticed, ATT doesn’t really care much about Android.

    So, if you want updates, only buy groundbreaking phones that a manufacturer really puts their reputation on. If you want groundbreaking phones, don’t look at T-Mobile.

    BTW, this can be fixed … in 2009, Verizon was considered to have the worst fleet of phones out there … see article: http://www.wired.com/gadgetlab/2009/09/verizon-smartphones/ entitled “Why You Can’t Get a Good Phone With Verizon.” I would contend that the situation has changed dramatically with Verizon at the top of the smartphone hill, standing there with the iPhone and ATT. Sprint is close behind, and T-Mobile, the carrier that introduced Android to the world on a unbelievable phone that had compass, accelerometer, touch screen and a keyboard in a day when no-one else did is in a dismal last place.

  • Charles

    Everybody hate Chris(T-mobile) i mean, I like T-mobile because of their ability to use a sim card in which i can use it to change the different phone i have. The old beat up one for work, and my Samsung Vibrant for pleasure without any problem you can’t do that on Verizon. ( you can’t touch this)……

  • Charles

    And the Samsung Vibrant is the best phone on the planet, which by the way came from planet x ( Android ). And I know because i had many phone from T-mobile to Verizon, but i stay with T-mobile while i tried Verizon but then i came to my senses and drop Verizon like a hot pototoes.

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  • Scott

    As a fellow frustrated Cliq XT owner I too am anxiously awaiting any update news. So I figured I’d go straight to the source first– T-Mobile, who told me they had no updates or timelines available, but that I should check with Motorola. I went to this website:


    and read that for the Cliq and the XT that “2.1 Testing in progress.” That’s just great. Before it was going to be released in Q2, now it’s not even approved for distribution. T-Mobile/Motorola, you are wearing down my patience!!

  • Mark

    The problem with the TMO phones is Moto-Blur with 2.1. The Droids don’t have Blur. Motorola claims to be testing 2.1 for Cliq, but who knows? I switched to Vibrant 2 days ago and love the phone.

    • Andrew

      All the Motorola Droids, except the original, do have Blur, but it is a different blur. Their blue is mostly skin deep with Blur widgets while the Blur on ALL the other Motorola Android phones in the US integrates with Android and the social media sites. This provides a better experience but makes updating with each new Android edition very very difficult. Sense UI, on the other hand, is just skin deep with some great widgets that function as apps rather than a widget. Moto is better off just trying to get their new skin on Eclair and giving that to the other Moto Android’s

  • adam

    Andrew moto copys htc first htc did touchflo in 2008 with window mobile then rename it to htc sense ui in 2009. First android phone to get htc sense was htc hero gsm version in june 2009. Motorola goes and copy their ui and still didnt do it better then htc.

  • adam

    Charles u made a bad decision dropping verizon for t-mobile lies alot. False promises to all their devices.

  • Dubya504

    It’s now October, Do you know where your updates are? DAMN!

  • Michael

    All of this is starting to make me realize that Android is doomed to failure. And that makes me :( .

    I mean.. you’ve got to be kidding me that it takes nearly 100+ android phones to try and rival the paltry number of iOS devices that exist. Those numbers alone should be enough for Google to say ‘wtf guys?’ to these phone manufacturers. It makes absolutely no sense (aside from a sales perspective) to be producing several different phones that compete WITH YOUR OWN PHONE. Why is the iPhone so popular? Because there’s only 1 of the friggin things that’s relevant at any given time. Not 20.

    Grr. :P