Take 24: iPhone Headed To T-Mobile This Summer?


Here we go again… Rumor has it that Apple will be ending AT&T exclusivity soon. According to some rumors “soon” is considered Wednesday January 27th, or tomorrow. Bloomberg is reporting that T-Mobile USA will get the iPhone this summer, followed by Verizon Wireless and Sprint Nextel Corp. in the fall, and Clearwire Corp. in 2011, Horan wrote in a note yesterday. As you probably already know, AT&T has had a tight grip on the iPhone exclusivity since June of 2007, when the iPhone first debuted. Even though there is absolutely no confirmation of this, it could very well be possible. There has been a lot of rumors regarding a Verizon Wireless iPhone (or iTablet), but would Apple really make a brand new iPhone (because of Verizon’s CDMA network [Andrew – Let me add that there is a chip out there that does cover CDMA and GSM frequencies and Apple could add it to future iDevices]) just so they could sell it on one network in the US? On the other hand, Apple does what is wants, and anything is possible. Both Apple and T-Mobile declined to comment on the matter. Although our beloved Magenta has claimed in the past that it’s network is ready to take on the iPhone.

Sound off in the comments!


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    bring it on!!!

  • Rstar

    Oh here we go again. when I see it I will believe it. For now, it aint happening, you know why…tmobile doesnt even have 3g in alot of places…

    • Bill

      “Oh here we go again. when I see it I will believe it. For now, it aint happening, you know why…tmobile doesnt even have 3g in alot of places…”

      Yeah, it’s called the Alaskan wilderness, Mojave desert and other very, very scarcely populated places in the US. T-Mobile is gettin’ busy unloading one shot after another on the market. The iPhone to T-Mobile will in my opinion, substantially hurt Verizon/Sprint/AT&T.

    • TehAndroid

      AT&t isn’t much better and if it is true then the iphone will come out just in time for 3.5G

    • CO_Yeti

      So Google launched the N1 on Tmo’s network, Microsoft is bringing the most highly regarded winmo phone in years to Tmo and now Apple…. I doubt these companies would do business if Tmo really did have a crap network. Tmo does have a smaller footprint than At&t and Verizon, but where there is service (most major cities) our network is faster and more reliable.

      • sorandkairi

        I think ur right!

      • Galen20K

        I KNOW you’re Right Yeti!

    • TMoEmployee

      Neither did AT&T…

      • sorandkairi

        But for At&t it wasnt really about the network and or lack there of, rather it was about the total number of subscribers, in my opinion.

  • coca2

    let’s get it on

  • PrezBO

    But does T-Mobile have 3G in more places than AT&T?

    • sorandkairi

      No but how many Android phones does At&t have? The answer is none! The comment was relative. 3g isnt for every1. Most ppl, that i know, dont/cant tell if they have 3g in their area or not let along care what it does! It matters to us on these types of forums because we know. But regardless, ppl should choose the carrier and phone that they are comfortable with (coverage and capabiltiy). If not, then its a waste of their money.

  • Craiger

    iPhone is dead! Viva la HD2!!!

    • just some dude

      LOL,hold your horses there buddy. WM is dead too. Android rules.

      • Namo

        ANDROID will rule!!!!! Tmo should stay with Android and to forget that gayphone.

    • Peter

      Yeah iPhone is belong to the past and Craproid is just another unfinish copy cat OS with lots of problems and lack of features. We don’t need iPhone.

  • jet

    If they really have the network for it they can get it. But they are already having issues with nexus one. Apple has learned their lesson with at&t.
    T-mobile can not have any issues with it at time of activation and handling the data usage, do you think the network can take it?
    I’ve been with tmo for a very long time and use an unlocked iphone. If its announced tomorrow then will wait around, else gotta go and check out verizon’s network and see how they par with t-mobile, knowing that they are #1 in us…

    • Andrew

      I still hold that the 3g issues with the Nexus one are Hardware related, maybe not Google’s fault, but not the fault of T-mobile’s coverage since other devices get 3g just fine in the same place

      • TMoEmployee

        I will have to agree. All my 3G capable devices are strong with 3G over here in Philly. There are some spotty places but, good. Google should do a little research before the pin blame. My Cliq is a 3G monster.

    • SteveGowski

      T-Mobile isn’t having issues with the Nexus One. This is simply a software issue that Google (for some reason) is blaming 50% of it on T-Mobile. Probably because they can get away with it. I personally think this makes Google look bad. Anyone who knows anything, knows that this was all Googles fault and it is payback for their shitty pricing structure and lack of respect to early Android adoptors. Seriously, how can it be T-Mobiles fault when G1’s and MyTouch’s are not having any issues in the same areas. Hmmmmm, let me think, GOOGLE = FAIL. What’s really sad is that Google is a large, successful company and you would think at this point they would have the smarts to admit they F’d up and take responsibility, yet they still think their shit doesn’t stink…and you know what, their shit doesn’t stink, but their N1 does!

    • Galen20K

      All they need to do is push a software update to the Nexus One, there is nothing wrong with T-Mobile’s 3G at all.

  • MishkaGreen

    I just got my Android phone just a few months ago :-/

  • nyne7lac

    Lol….i just dont believe it.maybe the big T will get the first gen left overs

  • Dominick

    I keep hearing this rumor. I think the iphone is played out I’m tired of it, make something new. Oh well hurry up and get this rumor over with.

    • JakeMG

      I think this would mean the next generation iPhone with iPhone OS 4.0. Practically a new phone. I’ll totally be in after 11 months with that new upgrade structure coming… :) I’m a huge Android fan, but it would be nice to only carry one device and be able to ditch my iPod touch…

  • hmuldrow

    Long Live Android

    • Dominick

      Right on! Android Forever.

      • timmyjoe42

        Bringing the iPhone to all the other networks isn’t going to help us Android users.


    I used my unlocked iPhone on t mobile ever since they found a way to unlock the thing it got old quick iPhones are out dated they need bigger screens more processing power and removable memory and batteries for me to even consider using another one. On the other hand I’ve got a nice unlocked touch with a camera one it and cydia

  • txasbubba

    This makes sense, given the increasing popularity of Android phones. If one recent poll is accurate, then a 21% share of new smartphone buyers is very significant.

  • God

    “but would Apple really make a brand new iPhone just so they could sell it on one network in the US?”

    If the iPhone is going CDMA, they’ll probably sell it to Sprint, too. Bell and Telus in Canada would also make use of such a phone on their existing CDMA networks.

    As old as the iphone is now, I wouldn’t be surprised if they finally made a move to CDMA.

    • Sean

      It’s very possible that Apple is dropping in the new Motorola radio chip which supports GSM & CDMA on multiple frequencies…making it possible that all carriers would be able to get the same phone without multiple phone versions.

  • Alleluia!!! Finally a new 3g+ iphone on the 3g+ magenta. Currently iphone 3g is slow and so is edge.

  • efjay

    If At&t’s network couldnt handle the strain what makes anyone think this network can?

    • john

      Proper implementation of backend software and fiber at the towers…oh, and soon to be the fastest 3g network in america.

  • hanma

    Who cares, I already have the N900.

    • sorandkairi

      Me too but that’s not what this post is about!

  • just some dude

    No thanks its all about Android.

  • shawn1224

    Now all TMO needs is Palm Pre Plus and Web OS and we’re set

    You can pencil me in for an iphone thss summer.

  • artiepants

    makes sense that it would be in the Summer, when the the 4th Gen iPhone will launch. they can simply add a quad-band antenna to the new version and BOOM.

    (it’d also make sense that they’d come to the CDMA carriers later, although i’m suspicious they wouldn’t wait for Verizon’s LTE roll-out.)

  • Tgre

    efjay, AT&T may have more 3G coverage than T-Mobile but their catching up quick. Also, T-Mobiles 3g network is very reliable, more so than AT&T most definitely, and will be able to handle the congestion iPhone users would bring well. When the switch is flipped on 21mbps speeds this summer, the iPhone will rock on the big Magenta!

    As far as the HTC HD2, it looks awesome but I would not touch it without Android. The only thing that could possibly change my mind is if Microsoft steps up their game big time with Mobile 7! I still love the iPhone and am stoked for tomorrow in hopes they’ll shed some light on their upcoming plans for it.


  • Cybersedan

    This would be a good move for Apple, not just T-Mobile, when you sell a product that’s in high demand how can it make good business sense to limit it to only one carrier.

    The iPhone fan fare is dying out, it’s slowly being reduced from the phone god status to just another smart phone, if they really want to compete with Android and the other hot WinMo devices that will drop in 2010, they need to make the iPhone more available, I say put it on all the major carriers.

    I of course wouldn’t buy one until they have a true OS with real functions and not just a “glorified app launcher”, but all that’s left to be seen maybe 4.0 will be better.

    • sorandkairi

      I completely agree!!!!!

  • casey

    iphone huh….too late

  • KitPogi

    Oh please! I don’t want to experience what ATT customers have the Iphone use….ATT and other carriers can keep that Iphone, magenta should just keep moving up with out it. It’s so over rated and still yet to impress me with features. HTC is catching up really fast with Android OS. And don’t forget SE X10, if ever that happens, magenta will be bumped up from 4th to 2nd largest. At least that’s my opinion. So, ATT and other carriers can keep the iphone…

    • Namo


  • Zapote21

    I reduse to downgrade from my Nexus for that Isomething…LOL

  • Bigg

    If iphone does indeed come to Tmo, which I doubt it will. Can we at least have something better 3GS, how bout 3.5GS or 4GS, or whatever you call your next gen iphone, apple.

  • Lol

    The reason that T-Mobile’s network is going to be able to handle the iPhone is because it already is. T-Mobile already has over 1 million iPhone users on its network. Granted, they are all on EDGE right now but they are on the network.

    As for all of you that don’t feel as though Apple will release a CDMA version of the iPhone – They don’t have to. Verizon is in the process of converting to GSM. Blackberry Storm?? Verizon knows that the base technology is at a dead end and is working furiously to convert in order to make sure that they don’t fall behind T-Mobile in network technology. Also keep in mind that T-Mobile and AT&T’s 3G networks both run on WCDMA… the same as Verizon. The only thing that Verizon needs to do is make sure that their voice and sms services are up to par on the GSM side.

    • sure why not? t-mobile in europe has the iphone why not t-mobile usa?

    • ultravision

      Tmobile and ATTs 3g networks is not the same as verizon. verizon uses EV-DO not WCDMA. EV-DO is much different than WCDMA. WCDMA uses a different Radio than GSM thats why u can talk and surf at the same time. with verizon they use the same radio for data and voice. WCDMA with some software and hardware upgrades aloows for HSPA which verizons network does not have the capability to do. WCDMA is not CDMA

  • Peter

    I hope they don’t get it. iPhone is dead (old) and belong to the past. Now there are so many other better phones (Both in term of Design and Power) out there from different companies specially from HTC.

    Plus we don’t need AT&T problems in T-Mobile network. If T-Mobile get iPhone I will switch to another carrier as soon as I can. Last thing I need is a crappy network like AT&T.

    When phones like HTC HD2 will be available in T-Mobile I don’t see any reason to even think about getting iPhone.

  • eli_the_great89

    There are many other carriers around the world with small networks that picked up the iPhone collection after it’s exclusivity ended with other carriers.
    It would be a great thing if the iPhone came to T-Mobile, maybe then I could finally stay on the affordable Magenta with an amazing phone.

  • dboy

    Who cares about the iphone anymore….? Not me for sure !! just give me the hd2!!!

  • If Jobs’s announcing this tomorrow, he will definitely say that it’s the next gen iPhone that supports 7.2Mbps high speed 3G which T-Mobile already has in place this year!!! I bet you he also pushed T-Mobile to finish implementation ASAP as a condition for iPhone partnership! WE SHALL SEE!

  • Aaron

    “Who cares about the iphone anymore….? Not me for sure !! just give me the hd2!!!”


  • Mockerfab4

    Please let this be true! I tired of all the iHype. I was planning on getting the HD2, but if the iPhone comes to Tmo, I’ll get the new phone. I love all my iPhone apps and can’t bear to be without them!

    • efjay

      Aww bless, a true isheep!

      • Zyzzyx

        There’s an app for that.

      • Mockerfab4

        Baaaaa Baaaaaa…and damn proud of it, too! ;)

  • AgDon

    Bring it on I’ll take one.

  • Broke

    A little bit too late in the game for me. Would have loved one before my November Android purchase. Would consider in another year or two. If and only if it learns to multitask.

  • Zyzzyx

    Who cares? The iPhone sucks, and it always will. Have you ever tried to make a call on one? Call quality is horrendous. That’s a result of the phone hardware, not the network.

    Not to mention the girly design. It’s something a teenage girl wants. Paint it pink and throw some glitter on it.

  • Okay let me just say that the iPhone is NOT coming to T-Mobile (and I have reliable sources on this). As much as I would like to see the iPhone on T-Mobile (I think it would do wonders for the company) it isn’t happening. Why you ask?

    Well my good friend works for Motorola but specifically for Verizon based phones in that company. He is a phone tester for up and coming phones that are due out for Verizon and he has told me that a close friend of his (who works in the cell phone development/testing department for Verizon) is currently testing the iPhone and that Verizon should be the next company that gets the iPhone.

    Like I said, this is a very reliable source (unless Apple has given T-Mobile AND Verizon iPhones to test with their networks extensively, but that just doesn’t make any sense to me). Also, it doesn’t make sense to have a company that is pushing the Android OS so heavily to be able to carry the iPhone (Apple has too much pride for that to happen). I think, in the end, Verizon will be the next to get the iPhone and eventually, down the line, T-Mobile may get it. But like I said before (sorry to beat a dead horse) but from my sources, Verizon is next to offer the iPhone.

    • Delusion FTL

      I’m sorry but the most your source could possibly know given what information you’ve given is information on verizon and the iphone.

      They would have no idea as to Apple’s or tmobiles plan for release, deployment or whether or not any other wireless carrier was testing the iphone. The most they could say is “Verizon hopes to get the iphone soon we are testing it”. Which I’m pretty sure that every US carrier can say the same thing.

      The fact is that there are “sources” much more involved with apple and tmo (neither of which your source is related to). That say that the iphone is headed to tmo this summer. Combine that with the fact that tmo is GSM like the iphone, they have wcdma 3G like the iphone (just on AWS though), and they already carry about 20% of the north American iphones anyways even though they dont sell them. For tmo not to end up with an iphone it would almost be like apple going out of their way not to release it here since it’s the simplest, quickest, and easiest carrier to get it on after AT&T.

    • Alex V

      of course they could give both companies the phone. ever heard of increasing market share? why wouldnt they now that the exclusivity agreement is over?

    • Galen20K

      I’m sorry but I trust Bloomberg way more than your little “anonymous” source.

  • Robert

    iphone is outdated. i used it for awhile, went back to the blackberry, then went back to the iphone and blackberry is the way to go =D

    • 30014

      Blackberries are outdated, I used one for a while and then went to android. I haven’t went back to blackberry and never will.

  • Hey if you want to know what I think feel free to read what I wrote at my website.

  • Mr hd2

    HD2HD2HD2HD2HD2HD2HD2HD2HD2HD2HD2HD2HD2HD2HD2HD2HD2HD2HD2HD2HD2HD2HD2HD2HD2HD2HD2……..iPhone who? The phone is played out and over-rated. Im going to support t-mo and the phones exclusive to us!

  • Kebanyo

    i currently have an iPhone 2g 16gb on T-Mobile and i love the phone but i want the 3G data. I saw the HTC HD2 and i told myself thats gonna be my next phone but if the rumors are true that the iPhone is coming to T-Mobile then i may stick with the iphone!

    • Mockerfab4

      Same here! And I don’t have the latest upgraded OS either on my iPhone. It sucks. I just hope this is true..Could tomorrow PLEASE come soon!

  • Rickb

    I’ve been harping on this lately, in case you just joined or have been spared my rants.

    Locking and unlocking data-intensive phones is obsolete. If your phone is dependent on 3G or better service, you, as a carrier, DON’T NEED TO LOCK IT TO YOUR NETWORK!

    If your phone is an iPhone, as of today you can’t get 3G service on TMO, so you go to TMO and suffer a great penalty in performance. Most users don’t bother.

    If your phone is a Verizon-supplied phone, then you are probably not going to change without calling the new carrier and giving up your IMEI, and of course, that amounts to a lock.

    So for us GSM users, locking is lie.

    Having said that, I wonder if it possible to build a phone that is 3G comaptible with TMO and AT&T. If so, that is the phone with ‘choice’. If not, it is effectively locked by design.

    And I’m not buying an iPhone. Android has too many advantages, such as Cyanogen.

  • im a t-mo customer and check the website like everyday. If the iPhone comes out 4 tmo,t-mobile will b headed on its way up to the top with vzw and at&t. of course, at&t will probably lose some of its customers but its not really a big deal.

  • FILA

    GREAT! and i mean that as Fuck. All signs are pointing to yes, I was hoping it go the opposite way and go on Verizon, and you know, apple would make a new phone just for CDMA so thats nothing. But with T-Mobiles comments and iphone being GSM and shit, all signs are looking greater. It sucks for us ANTi, who hate the iphone culted fans and hate everything for Apple. and for the people who work at T-mobile who have to sell this trash when people ask for it. it would boom sales up for t-mobile, but really, if its gonna be on all 3 carriers what difference does it really make. keep the shit off T-mobile if i had my way

  • Joseph Singer

    Unless Apple modifies the iPhone it won’t work on 3G since the present radios don’t support T-Mobile’s HSPA frequency.

  • BKJames

    Yawnnn…I’ll stick to Android.

  • Todd

    Screw the I-PHONE!

  • Cracker

    Hehe. Which OS should I choose, Maemo or Android… Ohh wait, I can have both on the N900. lol.
    Now to load the iPhone OS in VM to piss off the Apple fanboys.

  • chris

    if this does go thru, man T-mObile is a powerhouse! HAHAHA HD2 (confirmed), Motoroi (highly likely), and if does iPhone (hopefully) THIS IS A POWERHOUSE LINE UP OF PHONES HAHAHA, more = merry :)

  • ali

    I hope t-mobile doesn’t get the iphone too. Android is the future, and we need not contribute to an exclusive, obsessive compulsive company like Apple.

    • Peter

      Agree with you except the part “Android is the future” because it is not. I don’t think any of these operating systems goes away in future. They all will have their own users and market share.

  • John

    Thank you, but I don’t want iPhone and I will not get one. I will stick to Windows Mobile and great Windows Phones that will come this year and in future.

  • JBLmobileG1

    I do like the iphone and would have probably picked one up before the Android o/s hit. Who knows… I would probably still because I do like the quality of the phone itself. Probably one of the best I’ve ever seen and felt and I really wish other companies would create a phone of this built quality and not of cheap plastic. However… I would lose my current data plan no doubt because its Android. Also the battery is a bummer because if it messes up or dies you need to send it in to get it replaced and its not cheap. So while it has its ups I think it has more downs. Wouldn’t be a bad idea though if Tmobile did pick it up because I am sure their network would handle it a lot better than AT&Ts and I am sure it would also bring some new customers to Tmobile from AT&T. Lets just see what happens and see if Apple mentions anything tomorrow. From my understanding there is a new iphone in the works so who knows… if they stick with AT&T maybe they will get the newer version and Tmobile and Verizon will pick up their own versions of the 3GS.

  • Galen20K

    I love my Nexus ONe and will love my HD2 as well, I think it will be great for T-Mobile to get it for those who want it so I’m very excited for them!

  • Marc

    Where are all the comments?

  • Cybersedan


    I’ve been having the same problem to, seems like the older comments disappear when the list gets too long.

  • TFJ4

    T-Mobile + iPhone 4G = New Phone for me
    T-Mobile + any other already out iPhone = Keeping my Nexus One :D

    • ctk


      except replace nexus one with iphone 3g.

  • Noel

    It is a very good phone..sells very well around the world but too much hyped. The google N1 has it beat on many features. It will be a good addition to any network..hence it will bring new customers to Tmobile. But for those who love multitasking..this might not be ur best bet unless the next iphone rectifies that. In my view..some of the recent crop of Android smart phones are just as good or even better in some cases. I will say Htc is leading that charge..it is no mistake my next few dream phones all by Htc..Nexus one, HD2(Tmo US version), Bravo and maybe the yet to be announced Htc Supersonic. Ok..i will also include the Droid and the yet to be outed Shadow..looks very sleek. The Nokia N900 is a gr8 multi-tasking phone also but a lil bulky..hope Nokia will figure a way to slim it down like the iphone.

    • J-Hop2o6

      i agree 100% with your post

  • CallawayBomber

    A certain someone I know in T-Mobile, that is not at the retail level, said in a private conversation last week with me “don’t be suprised to see it by Summer”.

    I’m going to run with that..

    • The Messanger

      I just talked to God and he said when he made you there were minor faults. Like the fact that you claim to know people how cease to exist. We all know you are a lie!

  • jay

    I think its a good idea that all major carriers offer the iPhone.

    It lessens the chances of one carrier **ahem AT&T** being crippled by its constant pulling of data.

  • googly

    Maybe it is coming to tmobile usa and that’s why the new iphone is supposed to be called the iphone 4.0 instead of 4G seeing as how tmobile probably won’t have 4G anyyear soon.

    • istvàn

      T-Mo just announced their “4G” coverage in Barcelona last week.

  • loyalty rep

    Eh I have the n1 I use to have the iphone…n1 better iphone sucks…but it would bring customers to use…we got the cheapest plans

    • sikkboy

      Learn2grammar you fuck.

  • iPhone coming to T-Mobile would solidify Magenta as a top tier company, expecially with their new simplified plans, and installment payment option.. great news. to go all the way T-Mobile should offer in store a top model of each OS, the Nexus One (android), iPhone 3Gs (apple), HTC HD2 (windows), Blackberry 9700, and the Nokia N900 (maemo). Currently T-Mo has only the BB, and the upcoming HD2 coming soon.. need the Nexus One in store (this helps google sales as well as t-mo.. win win), iPhone, and N900..

    thoughts, additional rumours, arguments.. suggestions, etc???

  • DJ Lu

    I wonder if it does come out on T Mobile would it be the new Iphone 4g??????
    Im waiting for the HD2 but if T-MO does get the Iphone I just might own two Phones… Im a grown man but this Smartphones just makes me feel like a kid again! : )

  • bw

    I doubt if it’s going to happens that way. I have a feeling all the new phone from Tmobile are to combat people leaving for VZW when it gets the Istone….. Oops I meant Iphone.

  • 30014

    Why can’t I read the older comments without leaving one of my own?

  • Kendrix_myrealname

    When this thing unveils, although I love my Android based phone, I will be picking one up and using it as second phone. I’m still getting a Nexus One but I would love to just have my iTunes on my phone without 3rd party software. My MacBook doesn’t like it lol. All I can say is, BRING IT ON!!! Go magenta

  • I personally think this is what apple should have done since the debut of the iPhone. feel free to go to my website to see what I wrote on the subject.


  • Krakenbound

    That would be good for TMo, but the increased use of TMo’s 3G bandwidth might not boad well for us current users. As for the actual device, If I wanted a “dumb” smartphone, I would have went with a Palm. Apple devices are for those who don’t know how to use a command line.

    • J

      I’m not sure my knowledge of DOS has ever helped me use a smartphone.

    • Ann

      I completely agree with this. I see what iPhone has done to AT&T w/ how bad their service is now & even that the carrier wants to LIMIT data used by their customers. I DO NOT want to see this happen to T-Mo. And I could care less about the iPhone. Besides, you can get one unlocked for T-Mo now, anyway.

  • podstolom

    Ok, here’s my post coz I evidently can’t read the old posts without one of my own.

  • Iphoneiscoming

    I have also heard Tmo employees say that summer is bringing Iphones to Tmob.

    • sorandkairi

      But they dont know anything themselves!!! They dont have special information they we dont. We know more about their phone then they do; and i’m not talking about some of the time, I’m referring to all the time!

  • Ron

    Screw the Iphone. Bring the Storm 2 to T-Mo.

    • 30014

      The storm 2 couldn’t hold the iphones jock strap on a good day.

      • Christo

        I’m sorry but I would rather have the Storm2, than iPhone. Just because I saw what it did to AT&T. Personally I also think T-Mobile’s 3G could not handle the iPhone.

  • Noel

    Word!! Good phone but not 4 me..but 4 those who love it, it would help increase Tmo customer base. Android all the way..Google N1 and all the upcoming Htc super phones

  • kevin

    if big yellow gets it im in like flynn since i already have sprint i been anti steve jobs phone for a while but i would give it a shot on sprint because its a great network. and the everything data plan would really compliment it. also if it came to tmobile would definately be a good look for big magenta. would i leave the RIM of comfort ive came to know as blackberry? a revision of the user interface would be the only thing to convince me to reconsider my opinion of the iphone for the fact unless it is revised the TEP plan wouldnt cover said device due to the fact apple care is supposed to which isnt cheap in addition to said phone. Im sure sprint will be even more flooded with potential customers.

  • I’ve been shopping for a smart phone for awhile. I keep looking at all the comments and I still don’t know if I should go (nexus or bravo) or wait for the new iphone. I don’t want to hear haters. I want to hear why one is better than the other…

  • john

    hell i work for apple and i do not belive this rumor is true

    • john

      oops i ment to say hello

      • SlowSteadii

        You have the spelling ability of a 10 year old.

    • JD

      I like your first post better. Rolls off the tongue

  • Houston

    Even if Magenta gets the iPhone, I don’t think there’s going to be quite the rush like at&t experienced in 2007. Firstly, an iPhone on any other network doesn’t mean at&t is losing the phone, they’re just losing exclusivity. The fact remains that at&t’s network is larger (even if the 3G is weak sauce). The possibility of Sprint and/or Verizon versions of the iPhone will also prevent a T-Mobile network overload.

    I am personally not a fan of the iPhone. That’s a statement from someone that has actually used one (i.e., me). I preferred the look and feel of the original iPhone to it’s current incarnation. I think Apple has certainly cheapened the iPhone by using that black plastic backing. I’m also not a fan of a company that thinks it can tell me what I can and cannot do with my phone. You can’t customize iPhone’s without jailbreaking them. Apple even reserves the right to remote woe/delete programs that they deem unfit for the iPhone (not certified and downloaded through the app store). I also personally don’t understand the fascination with multitouch (try pinch-to-zoom with one hand; double-tap WIN).

    As noted above, it would be great if T-Mobile could get the best phones in stores and have actual functioning demo phones instead of the demo bricks. I went in the other day and they didn’t have a single Android demo phone. Thy only had a couple flip Nokias and the cheap Samsung touchscreens with the wretched OS. I bought the N1 because it just simply had too much to offer to be a failure from a hardware standpoint (I’m a big HTC fan; great quality stuff).

    They need working demos in stores. It’s nice to see, however, that Magenta is starting to get a pretty serious phone lineup. They soon will have what could arguably be called the best smartphone lineup in the country (Luke Wilson’s full of shit in those commercials, and gso is at&t).

    • Houston

      Typed “remote woe/delete”. Meant to type “remote wipe/delete”.

    • ItsMichaelNotMike

      Since the phones are a store’s stock and trade I can’t imagine any U. S. store not having a complete line of phones for demo. There’s something wrong with the store you visited and they need to get them in shape. That’s ridiculous. I hope that was not a corporate store and instead a dealer.

      I went into a San Francisco corporate store and they had maybe 100 phones on display, all working. And by that I mean “hot” with the capability of going on the net if one wanted to.

      While they had Android phones, the store separated displays into sections, mostly by models, with the hot sellers or featured models having a prominent section.

      Of course, by the doors were the BlackBerry models, myTouch, HTC, and a couple others. Along the wall were 30 or so Samsung and other “ho hum” models (phones I did not know existed, like some phone a frog would own, a green phone that will save the environment if you buy and use it. Actually, my sister bought it and I had to go look at it so I could see what she got. I digress, forgive me.


    Does anyone really think that after launching a new device that exclusively works on AT&T’s 3G network, Apple’s contract with Big Blue is coming to an end? Yes, the iPad is “unlocked” but no one else will have the new SD card for some time. I think yesterday’s announcement attests to the fact that Apple and AT&T are going to be monogamous bed fellows for a while.

    • CVMIII

      00ps . . . I wrote “new SD card” when I meant new micro SIM card.

  • carlo

    ipad should work for tmobile!!! 3g compatible per specs on the apple website.

    • heythere

      Not compatible, as per apple.com. Tmo uses 1700 & 2100, iPad, according to apple:

      – UMTS/HSDPA (850, 1900, 2100 MHz)
      – GSM/EDGE (850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz)

  • Jkerr45

    I would get an iPhone if it came to T-Mobile. But based on yesterday’s iPad news, I don’t think the big Magenta is getting anything from Apple any time soon.

  • joe

    Maybe it’s a different apple product comming to tmobile (ipad). Att probably doesn’t want the network stress that would come from the device from the $30/mo profit it would bring. Thus they would allow apple to shop that device around so long as they keep the profitable voice service and profit that the iphone brings in. You will see an ipad on tmobile before you ever see an iphone.

  • just got done speaking with my T-Mo contact.. he’s rather certain the iPhone is not coming to T-Mobile USA. If anyone is getting the iPhone soon, it will be Verizon. He also said while they originally thought they’d get the Nexus One 90 days after launch, Google seems to be dead set on marketing it them selves even if it means dismal sales. He also mentioned that Google is working on another phone which also will not be sold by carriers. But this time it will also be sold and supported by the manufacturer along with Google.

    so for now.. the iPhone and iPad are staying with ATT in the USA, just like the iPhone and iPad are staying with T-Mobile in Europe.

  • anthony

    There was once a time that would of made me so happy. I say great but I got a n1 and I ain’t giving it up..android rocks.

  • ItsMichaelNotMike

    Some great comments in here, especially Houston’s post. Nice to see real comments other than people calling each other names or simply posting cheer leading comments that add nothing to the discussion.

    Jürgen… you are correct about the Nexus phone, HTC said that it would not make any more phones for “non-carriers” like Google. It does not want the hassles and said to Asian tech press that it will only make phones for carriers from now on (to be sure, that’s more profitable).

    So the Nexus One is the only phone Google will be getting from HTC. Google will most likely be getting the “Nexus xx” from Motorola, and it will be a QWERTY physical keyboard model.

    And ditto about those who said the iPhone won’t be going to T-Mobile. The fact remains that there are only so many iPhone users out there. Contrary to fanboy posts, last year a billion handsets were sold, check to see how many of those were iPhones. And people are deluded if they think that the only reason everyone does not have an iPhone is because AT&T has the exclusive. (I duly note that when the iPhone debuted in 2007, and to 2008, that T-Mo lost customers who defected to AT&T to get the iPhone.

    But those days are over and proportional to total handset sales, the number is not significant enough have T-Mo begging Apple for the rights to sell the iPhone and I don’t think carriers are chomping at the bit to get the iPhone. (And remember, Verizon turned down Apple to sell the iPhone, back in 2006. I have not read anything that says Verizon regretted that decision.)

    Besides, the iPhone is not all that great a phone if you stop to think about it. Let’s take one small example. RIM and carriers agreed that the trackball had to go because it was a very expensive proposition to honor the warranty claims being made because of trackball malfunctions. Fact is, carriers were getting a lot of trackball phones returned because, for example, there was something as simple as lint preventing the trackball from working correctly.

    Now look at the iPhone. It has a battery that cannot be replaced by the user. (Not unless the user wants to void the warranty.) So carriers and/or Apple have had to go through the same cost intensive warranty claims if they intended to replace the battery under warranty, a move just as expensive as it was for RIM and the carriers to honor trackball claims. And of course iPhone users have to initially do battle when making a battery warranty claim since Apple only covers defects in material and workmanship, a near impossible thing to prove more than a few months into iPhone ownership.

    Anyway, carriers pay attention to the cost of honoring a warranty and pencil out things like this when determining which phones to carry. A carrier’s goal is to sell services (talk and now data), not hassle with phone warranty claims. Plus faulty phones = unhappy customers.

    There’s also Houston’s comment above that touches on many other problems with the iPhone. I agree with those and also point out that there’s many people (like myself) who will never buy an Apple product because they are guilty of planned obsolescence, just like American car makers practiced in the 50’s through the eighties. (Now look where those 40 years of abusing consumers got American car makers, out of business, bankrupt or struggling).

    For those of you who don’t know what this means, in a nutshell it’s where a company designs a product so that it becomes outdated, wears out or breaks down, after so many years, this so you are forced to buy a newer product. With cars, manufacturers could build a car like a tank, but they didn’t because then you would not buy a new car for five to ten years, rather than three. (Ever wonder where the three year, 36,000 mile warranty standard came from? It was from the scheme to convince people mentally and mechanically that they need a new car in three years.)

    What bugs me about Apple is that they are so arrogant and blatant about planned obsolescence. For example, every other phone out there has a microSD slot. My T-Mobile Touch Pro2 can handle a 32GB microSD chip. But Apple, nope, if you want more gigabytes you have to pay more money for the device with more memory.

    And next year if they come out with a 32GB iPhone, you can have one, for full price, of course.

    Apple continues planned obsolescence with the iPad. So not to conflict with iPhone sales, they make sure it does not have a web camera nor cell phone capabilities. (This fact alone caused me to label the iPad a “deluxe portable picture frame).

    To make sure you have to buy an iPad with more memory, once again the iPad, like the iPhone, does not have a memory slot. Nope, you want more memory, you can pay $100 more for each doubling of memory. ($500 = 16GB; $600 32GB; $700 64GB).

    Sidenote: What kind of bullsheet is that, that Apple is getting away with. Build a device without a $10 memory slot, then force people to pay more to get more memory? That is so 1990s.

    This all leads me to believe that it’s only Apple fanboys and the news-story-starved media who think the iPhone is so great and that everyone wants one. That’s just not true.

    Bottom line, I suspect T-Mo could care less if they get the iPhone or not. If anything, they might like to add it to the lineup so it can appeal to anyone and everyone in the market for a smartphone, but no one is thinking the iPhone is the must have phone or that it will save the day for slumping handset sales.

    While it’s true that Apple has saved itself from the precipice or brink, Apple still remains a small player in the computer world and the iPad will show they are just like other companies, hit or miss with product debuts.

    IMHO, the iPhone is dead. It’s run its course and unless Apple comes out with something radically different, the market for iPhones has become saturated. So much so that any new carrier selling the iPhone is not going to realize a surge in handset sales.

    Do any Apple fans posting in here have any figures, stats or numbers to support a proposition that if T-Mo gets the iPhone that it will sell well? (Just because YOU like the iPhone does not count.)

    I’d be curious the response if T-Mo asked every one of its customers if they would want the iPhone, if T-Mo got it. While I am sure T-Mo suffered a slight exodus when the iPhone debuted (as all carriers did), this June the iPhone will have been out three years. Is there anything revolutionary about the iPhone (even upcoming iterations) that would indicate significant numbers of new iPhone customers? IMHO I don’t think there are.

    Have to run, no time to grammar and spell check. I always make them. So pardon in advance for my errors.

  • ItsMichaelNotMike

    Here’s a tech journal article that discusses handset sales last quarter. This is what people in the know talk about, that is, rather than fanboy statements about the iPhone this, iPhone that.

    Do you see iPhone mentioned anywhere in there? Don’t you think it’s time to stop putting the iPhone on a pedestal. ;)

    An estimate of 336.5 million handsets were shipped in fourth-quarter 2009, up 15.1% on quarter, said Jake Saunders, VP for forecasting at ABI Research. Competition continued to squeeze handset ASPs. In fourth-quarter 2009, shipment-based ASPs were down 2% to US$117.55, the research firm added.

    “Obama’s stimulus package certainly helped save the mobile handset industry,” Saunders noted. “Renewed consumer confidence in the second half of 2009 meant that shipments for the whole year only shrank 4.5% to 1.153 billion. Dire scenarios were mooted in early 2009. There is cautious optimism about 2010 despite the fragile nature of the global recovery. ABI Research forecasts shipments to expand to 1.2 billion handsets in 2010.”

    Despite Nokia’s weakened position in the smartphone segment, it still managed to maintain 37.7% of the overall handset market.

    Samsung Electronics, the market-share juggernaut, seems unstoppable. Between June 2008 and December 2009, Samsung increased its market share from 15.2% to 20.5%. Samsung has benefited from a strong line-up of feature phones as well as a strong reputation for innovative smartphones.

    Korea’s level of influence over the handset market is further underscored by LG Electronics (LGE), the third-largest handset vendor (10.1%). LGE has been counting on its S-Class smartphone series to help it secure a bridgehead in the market.

    “In third-quarter 2009, Motorola, under the direction of Sanjay Jha, has come out of its corner fighting with a refreshed portfolio,” added practice director Kevin Burden. “The Droid has received critical acclaim. However Motorola’s market share continued to contract to 3.6%.”

    Sony Ericsson also experienced a contraction to 4.3% but has high hopes that its Android-based handsets will generate renewed interest.

    High Tech Computer (HTC)’s market share did not fare well early last year, but its circumstances improved slightly in the fourth quarter, to 1.0% share. Notably, HTC announced a revamped handset portfolio strategy, not just targeting high-end smartphones but also launching smartphones that appeal to purchasers with smaller wallets. These low cost “HTC Smart” devices will rely on BREW.

    Lastly, based on conjecture, rumor and fanboy blog comments, and with no hard data, iPhone was mentioned on T-MoNews as possibly coming to T-Mobile in 2010. If that happens, the market will be affected by .0000000000001%

  • browntwist

    I was considering going for the nexus one, but shelling out 560 for the phone, with barely thier customer service just doesn’t seem that ideal for me. I always wanted an iphone, but because it doesn’t work on t mobiles 3g network, never got it. but if tmobile goes pick up the iphone, and puts it on its network, and sells it themselves, then i will definitely buy it. seems to me that i would be a smart move on apples part to go ahead and open contracts with tmobile and verizon, that would effectively even out any head way that android gained with the new nexus phone… so far iphone has been out a lot longer so more apps, software has been tested for over two years, and will probably cost less than android.. and lets not forget more accessories.. so if google wants to go ahead and fuck around with customers with those prices and price plan requirements, ill just wait until tmobile piss up a phone that i can get discounted on contract with them.

  • John Doe

    Good morning ladies and gentleman. I work for tmobile USA and I love the iPhone myself I’m using it now to write this comment I’m almost 90% sure that T-Mobile should get this by the summer which is going to be a huge addition to our line up. Also backing me up is someone on the inside who tells me t-mo is starting contract negotiations in feb 2010 with apple to secure a deal so let’s sit tight and wait to enjoy.

  • Tina Jenkins

    I love T-Mobile for its rate plans and customer service but the phone choices are pitiful. My husband just left our T-Mo family plan because his crackberry died and he wanted an iPhone. We tried to buy an unlocked iPhone to keep him on our T-Mo family plan but the unlocked 16 and 32GB 3GS is difficult, if not impossible, to get immediately because it requires new unlocking software that is supposedly being developed but not available for a couple months. His AT&T contact costs us an additional $60 a month not to mention the purchase/activation costs and cancellation fee with T-Mo…OUCH!

    If the iPhone comes to T-Mo this summer, I’m all over it. In my purse, I currently carry a Kindle (there’s an app for that), a portable XM device (there’s an app for that), an iPod, a camera, and of course a cell phone. If the iPhone becomes available at T-Mo, I can stay with the carrier I love and carry ONE small, lightweight electronic device instead of five not so small and not so light devices. I’m keeping my fingers crossed for this one.

  • huh

    anyone no is phone 4 coming to tmobil or should i just buy a factory unlocked for like 100 buck more