Reminder Of New Rate And Data Plans Launching Today, Even More Plus Going Away?!

Update: There seems to be a bit of confusion regarding the Even More Plus plans and I thought it would be nice to try and clarify. No official word from T-Mobile indicates these plans are gone. Both customer service and retail store reps are both able to offer them to walk in or calling customers. However, the removal of them from the website and even now at 8:30PM EST the EM+ plans are still unavailable on the T-Mobile website. Amazon Wireless, LetsTalk and Wirefly also don’t have the option for EM+ plans. We aren’t saying and never did say they were completely gone, that was an interpretation based on current information and also from what we have heard might be happening. T-Mobile themselves claim its a website glitch and we have to wonder, why at this hour the website remains unfixed? Fifty percent of the company’s offerings are “unavailable” due to a website glitch. It is within that that our interest peaked and caused the extra portion of this article this morning. We’ll post when we know more and hopefully by morning the plans will be back, but until then, we are just very unsure as to what is going on.

While the new promotional rate plans are certainly worthy of a reminder post today, the news that might peak more interest is the sudden removal of the Even More Plus plans from the T-Mobile website. While our ninjas had started dropping hints, without any “physical” evidence it was hard to understand just why exactly T-Mobile would drop them. We can’t say anything for certain as we haven’t heard anything officially from T-Mobile but with the launch of two new promotional plans, it does seem like a perfect day to quietly remove them. In line with the reminders is also the addition of the new tethering plan for $14.99, 200MB plan for $10/$15 depending on current rate plan the new 4G unlimited plan. Hit the images below for all the goods, reminders and details you could ever wish for!

While we work fast to see if this is a permanent move we’ve included a few extra ninja shots to help showcase the T-Mobile savings against the competition and a little guideline for how much data basic tasks will consume. Further supporting the removal of the Even More Plus plans is their absence from these docs as they might offer the better comparison against the competition based on their lower price points. Instead, the comparison includes Even More pricing, specifically the promotional plans which continues to point to a quiet Even More Plus removal.

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  • watbetch

    FINALLY! An affordable data/text/talk plan for families (no more $30 for smartphone data per line nonsense)

    • zuben el genubi

      I’m not under contract, I’d rather buy my own phones and stay off a contract. That’s what’s annoying me.

  • mingkee

    It’s find that EM+ is grandfathered.
    The lower rate can offset the cost of unlocked phones.
    Well, I also web2go basic is replaced with 200MB web (same price with EM+ plans, not $15 when the price applies with ALL plans before 14 Nov except EM+).
    I’d use the term “semi-unlimited” because there’s a throttling point.

    • obvious

      um… what?

    • TheDude


    • UzukiC

      lol, call a tmo store, they still are offering EM+

  • tristan

    What if my phone is rooted for tethering. What happens? How will they know? Will I be charged?

    • RockTripod

      That’s the big question. I would guess you are safe for now, but they’ll probably figure it out eventually.

    • An

      Nothing well happened becasue thats for g2 and mytouch 4g.

  • Dave

    So far, I’ve only noticed walmart and letstalk have the new data plans for ANY smartphone.

    • cheaplikeafox

      it probably will just take some time for them to update it. T-mobile’s website lets you choose either 4G web plan for any smartphone so that’s the official word.

  • How will I know when the tethering option becomes a paid service? My g2 is tethering for me right now as I type haha. What about rooting? Will that still need tethering option?

  • chris

    Can you go no contract on these plans?

    • David, Managing Editor

      No, thats the point of the article, that the no contract options have been removed.

      • George

        OMG! What does this mean?!

        • evok

          it’s almost a triple rainbow

        • TheDude

          It means you’ll have to use the prepaid plans for your no-contract options. Those don’t have m2m on them though :(

      • George

        Come on Dave, you get excited about little things, you should show more emotion about big things! In my opinion this is a big deal, they made a big hoopla about their even more plus plans (which my family and I are happily enjoying), and for them to just take them away makes no sense. You called it a “game-changer,” so add a bit more exclamation points to your post to show us how disappointed you really are.

  • kershon

    First they promote em+ and people jump on it to save money. Now they take it away. What happens to all of us that opted for em+? Are we going to be allowed to stay on it or are we supposed to go back on contract? And what happens to the old contract that many of us gave up that still has to run out?

    • TmoHax

      You would have to port out or get a new number to “go back on contract” and you’d have to drop your old account cause if I remember right one person cannot have an em and emp plan, I may be wrong there though

      • Anthony

        not anymore, out of contract EM+ customers can switch back to a contract and take an upgrade.

        • a_random_de

          Only if they are already out of contract can em+ customers move to a contract.

        • zuben el genubi

          I don’t want an upgrade. I don’t like most of the TM phones. I want unlocked, so I pay full price anyway. Why should I have to switch just to get onto a contract for subsidy I will never use?

        • zuben el genubi

          Out of contract and don’t want one! Will keep buying used phones.

        • colinnwn

          “out of contract EM+ customers”

          What do you mean? EM+ are non-contract plans. The customers were never under contract to be “out of contract” now.

    • vrooom

      I talked to the representatives and they told me that it will not be taken away, they are just promoting the new 4G network that they have. That is all I was told.

  • I need a plan like this for an individual plan for 1,000 minutes. But, I might just move to Simple Mobile because their taxes are included in the plans. I do not have to pay the normal rate in addition to taxes. Taxes are a bitch, & I just can’t handle them.

    • THAT isn’t $79.99 or $89.99. $69.99 with unlimited text, & data with 1000 minutes & everything else would be great!

  • Phil

    I tried configuring a dumb phone and they took away the $10 unlimited plan.

    • cheaplikeafox

      the $10 4G Web 200 mb plan replaced the unl web2go

      • JB6464

        Maybe for new customers but i’m on the $9.99/month Web2go unlimited and i can surf away as normal with 3G and i have’nt got any message or contact from T-Mobile saying i’m switched to the 200mb plan.
        And i’m still tethering as on my HD2.

    • JB6464

      Web2Go still works on my Razr and HD2.

      • cheaplikeafox

        yeah the web2go/tzones work if you already have it…but new customers don’t have the option to add it online anymore since they have been replaced by the 4G web.

  • lawl

    I don’t know if this has been mentioned around, but EM+ is still around, but through telesales. So if you want a no-contract plan, you’d need to call.

  • Yankeefan123

    Why would they take away the EM+? Isn’t it better for them not having to subsidize the phone?

    • mingkee

      EM+ plans are great for unlocked phone owners, aren’t they?

  • JaylanPHNX

    I think this is a mistake on their part. Rather than get rid of EMP, they need to promote it. Every time I explain my wireless plan and price to a non-T-Mobile friend, they flip out about how great a deal it is. They need to take EMP and shove it in Verizon’s face like they’ve done with the myTouch4G and AT&T.

  • Quasar

    I love my EM+ plan! I better be able to keep it. I’m happily using my Nexus One still and glad to be paying only $69.99 for 1k minutes plus text and web. If/when Google comes out with the Nexus replacement, I will be buying that as my next phone so I won’t need a subsidized phone on a contract plan that costs $10 more per month. What would be great is if T-Mo would offer an EM+ promotional plan with everything I have now but at $59.99 since we pay full price for our phones anyway.

    • larry

      Guess we are in the same boat. im posted just after you. I agree with a promo price for us, but i would pay that 79.99 for a subsidized Nexus 2/S if allowed. Really i think Google should release the Nexus line as an MVNO sold through best buy and id ditch TMO directly. They are doing the MVNO for walmart i belive, so y not for google.

    • Eddie Android

      Im paying 59.99 for 500 minutes and unlimited text and on my Nexus One with EM+. I don’t really talk much

      • Eddie Android

        *unlimited text and web

  • Rayvis

    With the new 3000 minute family plan, I would be saving 15 dollars a month on my monthly bill and gaining 1500 minutes.

    Current 79.99 monthly 1500 minute monthly plan
    20 dollar family msg
    30*3 data for 3 lines

    New comes out to 174.99 with 3 lines of smartphone data.

    Good thing my contract renewed just a month or 2 ago, won’t be too big of a deal to extend it again to get this price.

  • larry

    Looking through the website it looks like 79.99 is the cheapest you can get a plan for. I dont need 1500talk minutes. I dont need even half that. So what do they have for me now?

    • firebird

      A) we haven’t heard anything about EMP going away. That doesn’t mean it isn’t but we are still selling it in the stores all guns blazing. B) like every other grandfathered plan just because we stop selling it doesn’t mean anyone who has the plan is affected – they can keep it. C) they recently rolled out a process where any eligible EMP customer could convert to EM anytime they wanted to, generally in the course of an upgrade. “Eligible” seems to be all postpaid and all flexpay who are eligible for annual contracts – so EMP customers who want to have contracts no longer have to cancel and start over.

  • Camille

    Interesting, I have EM+ and just went into my account to see what the costs would be to purchase another phone and it doesn’t even allow me to see the phones/prices. I get a message that says “this person isn’t allowed to upgrade…” even though it technically would not be an upgrade. Hopefully, I’ll still be able to at least purchase another phone without having to enter into a contract. Otherwise, I will not be a happy camper.

    • larry

      EM+ doesnt have upgrade pricing as you buy the phones straight up. Going to subsidized would mean switching to contract.

      • Lance

        So wouldn’t the upgrade price be the cost of the phone? I seem to remember that I was able to see upgrade prices as total cost of the phones available.

        • larry

          That would make sense but i dont ever remember seeing that as an option in the menu. Maybe they are going to kill the EM+ plans.

      • Camille

        I know that EM+ doesn’t have upgrade pricing. But, whenever I went into the site before just to look at the pricing for a phone, i had to click on “upgrade phone” and it would give me the full price for all of the phones, not the subsidized price. Now, with this change, it no longer allows me to do this. I get the message that I mentioned above.

        • colinnwn

          I’m an EM+ customer and experienced just the opposite. For the past year, any time I looked in my.tmobile, it said I was ineligible for phone upgrade. I just tried again, and now it shows me the full price for the phone. So they are having some kind of glitch.

  • Rilesman

    I think removing this options is a mistake as it will lose a talking point, a sales point that T-Mobile GIVES the option of not having to be on a contract.

    What is my basis?

    All the polls show customer DISSATISFACTION with their carriers because they are ALWAYS forced into a contract. Even if not widely used, the option exists and therefore gives a nice warm comfortable blanket for customers, a CHOICE.

    T-MOBILE, if you aren’t good enough to keep customers on an EM+ plan, then you are FAILING your purpose to the customer. If you suck so bad (like the other carriers) to force people to use your product, then go to contract only options. I thought you were better. I guess I thought wrong. As of today, I will stop promoting T-Mobile as a better carrier. You lost a sales person in the field. Congratulations.

    As for early technology adopters, welcome to pure dissatisfaction as now you get to nearly pay full price AND stuck on a contract over and over and over again. You also cannot take a risk on new phones.

    • r

      I agree, also they are sticking it to long time customers too. I went to get a new phone and they told me that I had to get the newer higher priced contract to get the subsidized phone price. These higher rates are not that competitive. Especially with Verizon’s new LTE starting to come on line. I now get to choose to pay $10+ more a month for the same service, pay the full price of a phone and then be off contract, (and pay my now lower rates), or go to a new carrier. All are really not that compelling.

    • Bobert

      LOL I am sure TMO is going to lose dleep

  • gameover

    Does this mean that even more plus is gone that sucks so No contract is gone I was just to buy some EM+ plans for xmas this why i was going to tmobile for the no contracts this sucks

  • Lance

    If they’re not restructuring their EM+ plans, but instead phasing them out, I’m saddened by this. I’m on EM+ with a new MT4G and other than Sprint’s $69 deal, this is the best for me. So if they get rid of this, it only leaves Sprint’s deal as competitive in my situation. Sprint has unlimited mobile to mobile in that package. You just can’t compete with that with the EM plans.

  • gameover

    Has Anyone tried Tmobiles MVNO Simple Mobile are they any good they have unlimited everything for 60 should i get this instead because i dont want a contract

  • Techblogger

    Still not impressed.
    They need to change the name from “Family plan” to “Couples plan”. When will these carriers recognize a “Family” is at least 4 people?

  • Wayne

    I’ll get excited about this when T-Mobile offers better then 2G in my area.

  • Whew. Looks like this is just 4G that is losing EM+. We still have Edge where I live so I guess I’m good for a while.

    • Viper Matrix Wireless

      What? Lol.

  • Slev

    This is really sad news. Glad I got signed up on an EMP+ family plan two weeks ago when we bought our mytouch 4g’s full price. If I had waited two weeks I’d be paying a lot more now :)

  • cirrob

    I know its been asked but no one answered it: what happens to those of us on the everything more plus plan? Are we grandfathered in or are we forced back onto a contract? If the latter do I get cash back on the phone I just paid full price for… yesterday!

  • OldPro

    They really need something between 200M and 5G, maybe $20 for 1G or something. I thinkthere are a lot of people that will only occasionally use data that are going to wind up in that 250 – 750 Meg mark.

    • JB6464

      I think they should of made it like:


  • AllanToss

    Y am I not happy about this!!! and I gave them a cal to ask this question and the lady just hung up on me… mayb I should put her name here so people can know who she is!!!!

  • dapanic_man

    Not good. I am under contract until February and could be getting a MT4G but If the EM+ rate is gone than I will be gone from T-mo.

  • roush97

    I called T-Mobile and they told me they are not getting rid of there EM+ plans. They said the web site is undergoing changes and is not showing everything. They said they intend to keep the EM+ plans.

    • vrooom

      Yea, that is what they told me, and that EM+ customers now have the option to switch to EM, for the upgrading advantages. Whooo Hooo we can still keep it..

    • David, Managing Editor

      It’s not a website thing…they are gone.

      • JD

        My account looks different now when I go to change my plan, and it still nows EM+ plans. In fact, it never did before.

        • JD

          correction .. and it still SHOWS…

  • Anthony

    SMDH! Now if you want unl data on ur 1st phone you have to pay $30 bucks like android.. Wat a mess! Glad i signed up for flexpay the other day and got the unl &10 web feature for my nexus one!

  • MIke

    “I called T-Mobile and they told me they are not getting rid of there EM+ plans. They said the web site is undergoing changes and is not showing everything. They said they intend to keep the EM+ plans.”


    I just purchased a HTC G2 off Craigslist and I been having to wait till the 18th of this month to actually afford getting service on it. I hope to god the “Even More Plus” plans are still being sold from T Mobile otherwise I’m not sure I’ll be sticking with them.

    I think I’m going to call a local non corp. T Mobile store and see if their still selling Even More Plus..

    • David, Managing Editor

      No signs point to a website thing, this change was sudden and is likely catching plenty of front line people off guard hence the lack of knowledge.

      • dcb

        Em+ has not gone away… may be in the process if being phased out in the near future but it is still available

        • David, Managing Editor

          I understand that customer service and store reps are still saying its there, but if you loo at LetsTalk, Wirefly, Amazon Wireless, not a single one of them is offering Even More Plus plans? That all sounds way to weird to be coincidental, but I digress, stranger things have happened!

        • David

          Ok, so you are stating without doubt they are gone. They being the em+ plans, because you surfed third party sites and they were not listing them? You might get lucky and end up right. But seriously, you offer nothing for inside information with that and if we are being fair, your website is more often then not infested with viruses. My research suggests you are not really connected or competent. Keep posting though. Why not really, you’re bound to be right sometime.

        • David

          I’m 40 so the kid thing isn’t gonna work so well. Part of my issue is not only the type of response you just gave which was juvenile and defensive I think but also the fact that prior to your admitting your knowledge is not 100% certain, you replied to folks insinuating it was. Like I said, you might be right, but your tone and attitude, along with your absolutes suggest you really have some inside information. The “ninja” thing is a cute reference but you have not been right more than wrong and when you say that em+ is no longer in place you do so with disgust almost for anyone who might suggest otherwise but don’t provide anything else. I spoke to 5 reps tonight and they all said it is staying and my plan is good to go. They might be wrong and you might know more but I’m not seeing your evidence outside of your usual arrogance and disdain for your visitors experience.

        • David

          We are now in a back and forth. If I overstated my opinion then I apologize. In my opinion you assert truths when they are opinion and I think that creates action by your visitors that might not be rooted in reality. I could be wrong but that is my take. I honestly love the option of a website that is dedicated to TMO information. That being said, I think you could tone down the arrogance and focus more on providing the best information that you know and recognize openly that you don’t have inside tips when you don’t have inside tips. It is your website and you will do with it what you want understandably, but that is my opinion.

  • When do they stop tethering and start charging???

    • JB6464

      I’m tethering right now on my HD2 and nothings changed yet.

      • dcb

        No…..em+ is a no contract plan… can be post paid or flexpay

        • Viper Matrix Wireless

          Do you have to pay up front?

  • I Need Too Know What’s The Point Of Having Even More Plus When There Pre-Paid If You Still Have Too Pay Full Price What’s The point

    • kalel33

      The reason is that Even More plus is post paid and you have to prepay for prepaid.

      • Viper Matrix Wireless

        Actually EM+ is flexpay.

        • Camille

          EM+ is postpaid. That is the plan I use (family plan), and the bills I get every month are for all usage up to the billing date.

  • Steven

    What if I’m on a grandfathered family 1000 minute plan with unlimited texting for everyone (4 lines) , and I only want to upgrade one phone to a smartphone with the $10 internet plan ? Am I allowed to do that ?

    • cheaplikeafox

      no you can’t do that. You will have to pay $15 for the 200 mb plan or $30 for unlimited. The $10 web plan doesn’t work with grandfathered plans as seen in the photo above referred to as “legacy” plans.

  • steve g

    em+ plans suck customers got sucked in to this plan with out knowing they cant do upgrades cause the reps dont explain anything. i work at a tmobile exclusive store i have this happen all the time and people are stuck. the prepaid plans are way better just dont really work on blackberries but work the same way on other smartphones just like an em+ plan so who needs em+

    • TeeJay3800

      What do you mean they can’t do upgrades? Of course EMP customers can upgrade, they just pay full price. And what do you mean EMP customers are “stuck”? They don’t sign a contract so they can change plans anytime they want!

      • steve g

        i mean upgrade with a discount and when you have no contract you dont have an option to change to even more contracted plans which is retarted you have to open a new account with a new number to get a discount

        • TeeJay3800

          So if I currently have an EMP plan, I can’t switch to an Even More plan and sign a contract to get a cheaper price on the phone?

        • steve g

          thats the problem what phone are you using now anyways cause if you want you can switch to prepaid which is was better than emp $70 unl talk text 2 gb data and if u go over just pay 1.50 addl per day which is hard to do

        • steve g

          because if it was that easy to switch why wouldnt everybody just switch to emp plans pay less a month and then when they are ready to get a phone just switch to em plan to get a discount thats why you cant switch.

        • colinnwn


          The discount phone subsidy is not attached to your previous payments on a contracted plan, it is attached to your future contracted obligation. EM+ customers now can switch to EM, and that makes sense, it didn’t used to make sense that you couldn’t.

          EM+ is non-contract. You switch to EM contract plan, which is probably $10 more per month than you were paying, and you commit to 2 years of this to repay T-Mo for the cheaper phone. After the 2 years is up, if you want to and T-Mo still offers it, you can switch back down to EM+. Though if the 20 payment installment plan is still offered on EM+, there is really no reason to switch to EM for a cheaper phone.

    • colinnwn


      When I signed up for EM+ the CSR was very careful to tell me (at the time) I couldn’t go to EM without getting a new phone number and canceling my account. Now T-Mo has changed this. But the customers you refer to either forgot, or talked to a CSR who wasn’t careful. That’s an employee training and monitoring problem, not a plan problem.

      It sounds like EM+ plans aren’t going anywhere, just won’t be featured anymore. But contrary to your assertion, I wasn’t “suckered” into anything, EM+ is great for my needs, and T-Mo prepaid plans aren’t really competitive with other discount carriers. If T-Mo got rid of EM+ and didn’t grandfather me, I’d be a Creedo Mobile or Sprint customer instead.

  • TeeJay3800

    It does seem as though something is going on with my.t-mobile. I’m on a EMP plan and it’s not telling me I qualify for a phone upgrade. Since I’m not under a contract, I should ALWAYS be qualified for an upgrade, since I simply pay full price for the phone. Also, when I click ‘change plan’, the only plans it shows me are the EMP plans…Even More plans are not even shown. What’s going on?

    • steve g

      who cares just go in to a store and buy a phone which is a phone only sale not really an upgrade. upgrades in the cell phone world actually means upgrading your contract to get a discount on a phone

    • colinnwn

      I’ve been an EM+ customer since the launch month.

      For me until today, my.tmobile has always shown me as “ineligible” for phone upgrade (which I always assumed meant subsidized upgrade). I’ve always in the past had to go to their regular website, pick a EM+ plan, then view the phones to see the full price I could pay. Today when I went to test it, now my.tmobile shows all phones and their full price. So I see exactly the reverse of what you see.

      Also, for whatever reason, tmobile has always said you couldn’t go from a EM+ plan to an EM plan without canceling and getting a new phone number/account. I’ve never been able to see EM plans as an upgrade option from my.tmobile. This doesn’t make much sense because the only thing they should prevent is going from an EM plan before your contract expires to an EM+ plan. But there doesn’t seem to be any change here.

  • Joe

    OK guys so check this… as of this morning, I was 500 min EM+…. I was thinking about switching to more minutes…. I called my buddy who works at TMO and he said he hadn’t heard of any changes to EM+ plans. He was able to bump me up to the 1000 min plan for $69.
    So as of right now, the Plus plans aren’t gone. But for the same price, I can go to Sprint for a better value. I won’t be able to use my unlocked GSM phone though… decisions, decisions…!

  • geomez

    In fear, I called T-mobile and asked to switch from my grandfathered MyFaves plan to an EM+ plan. The representative said “ok” and acted like nothing had changed. I was switched over. Before I hung up I asked why EM+ was no longer on the website and she said she didn’t know and that it should be there. She added that a colleague of hers said that something was wrong with the site. I asked if they were getting rid of EM+ and she said “No, definitely not”.

    I don’t know guys…

  • Vibrant addict

    Damn you Tmobile!

  • Shmoe

    Just like with other plan changes in the past, make sure you have the plan and features you want and NEVER EVER CHANGE IT!!!!

  • bigfish

    Just switched from my old plan to the promo plan that will save me 50 bucks!

  • Miami

    wow this is crazy i have Even the more Plus (500 min & unlimited TXT)
    for 39.99 after tax i pay 49.07.
    the new plan is 500 min just for 39.00 i say hell no, F it.
    i hope it isn’t permanent
    T-mobile’s on Drug. need to be fix.

  • JasonV27

    I actually called T-mobile today and was told that I can leave my even more plus plan and jump back to the even more work no fee…due to a change in policy

  • Pvl109

    The tethering option that is going live today will make other programs stop working.tmo will analyze traffic from phones if they see traffic similar to a computer would than it monitors account.if it does determine you are tethering than it will block all web access forcing you to call in and have it unlocked.this is how they will enforce it.

    • JB6464

      I’m tethering right now as i type and have throughout the day and nothing like that has happened and i’m on the $10/month Web2Go unlimited.

  • nra1941

    I am tethering using my rooted Samsung Vibrant, are you going to fore me to buy tethering plan by stopping me from tethering?
    I hope they keep EM+, or I will move to AT&T.

  • WXman

    I’m sick and tired of the TMo “4G” commercials. TMo doesn’t even have 3G in most places in this area of the country, much less “4G”. TMo’s new ads are misleading and it ticks me off. Their network is garbage unless you live in a MASSIVE metro area (NYC for example) and most people will NEVER benefit from 3G OR 4G with T-Mobile. Ugh…

  • sags149

    Hey People . Don’t Get Pissed Off By t-mobile , because i called t-mobile and they said that even more plus plans are still available through phone or t-mobile stores.

  • bing bang

    Ok, can somebody please answer my question. Ok, yes I want an iphone, don’t rip me apart for it. Which plan will I be able to get?

    And if instead I got a mytouch 4G, will I be able to get a 200 mb plan? I’m not on a Even More plan. I’m on a regular family plan before the Even More plans came out. So that means I’d pay $15, correct?

    T-mobile customer service isn’t of much help. I’m hoping somebody here can answer my question.

    • Chatter

      @bing bang: If you use an iPhone on TMo be aware that you can only use Edge speeds. You will not get 3G speeds for data. Calling is not really affected. You can sign up for any plan that works for you and then insert the sim into the iPhone. As far as I know, on a family plan you cannot upgrade just one line/phone. The entire plan gets upgraded – though this may have changed recently?. You may want to ask CSR this specific question.

      As the wording reads, you can get a $15 plan on MT4G though from what I have heard, you will use up 200mb on it pretty quickly. Any phone that you buy off contract will be at a premium price. If rumors are to be believed (you decide!), TMo is supposed to get the iPhone sometime soon – whatever “soon” means.

      • bing bang

        Thank you for the reply.

        Yes, I am aware of the edge speeds I will get and I am fine with it. Well I’ll see about that once I see how fast/slow edge is where I live.

        And yes, I can upgrade one phone/line in a family plan. I’ve done it before when I added the $5.99 t-zones plan and the sidekick data plan to my previous phones. Only I got it, not anyone else.

        Well soon can’t come fast enough. I need a NEW phone now! :)

  • Mike

    It seems that this great announcement is only great for those who are willing to do the two year contract. The no contract plans just no longer exist. Great move TMobile. I wonder how many loyal TMobile fans who want to make a change in their no contract plan will be forced to sign a new two year plan. Seems like this significant change may cause some to rethink their relationship with tmobile. Hell I don’t want the data plan and I sure don’t want a contract. It sure seems like tmobile want to help the Walmart family mobile plan to be more successful than their own plans..

  • Srini

    Just looked on T-Mobile Website and no mention of Even More Plus. This really sucks since I am with T-Mobile because of this plan. I prefer to buy my own unlocked phone and use it on a carrier.

    I would consider the prepaid plan but I have a Blackberry 9700 and BIS (Blackberry Internet Service) won’t work on prepaid so I can’t get my email via Blackberry.

    The only thing still going for T-Mobile is the UMA (Wi-Fi Calling) which I use when I am overseas to avoid high roaming charges when I am at a place that has wi-fi.

  • Jakestavo

    I just lost me 20 month installment plan guys. 300 dollars is now 0, i’ve been on the phone with them for two hours just screwing with them. I’ve been a customer for 6 years. I’m switching over because there is no longer an incentive to stay with Tmobile. They are doing it to a lot of people!!!

    • CradleOfChaos

      OP, This comment needs to be removed. That is unacceptable. Lets ikeep it friendly everybody.

      • David, Managing Editor

        Removed! Then again, I’m engaging in my own war of words, go figure!

    • remixfa

      the 20 month installment is still there. they reduced it on certain credit classes because there were too many defaults on the equipment plans and it was killing TMO. the EM+ plans are still there, i did one not an hour ago. There are just adjustments going on.. quit freaking out guys.

  • Jakestavo

    Man i am so pissed, is there like a ATTNEWS website or Sprintonews because this is the last straw with them. I’ve already been transfered to three manager’s and they are forcing me in to a more expensive contracted plan buy one phone expand contract on all of them. Tmobile has officially sold out guys. I’m out!! But this website was great.

    • Bobert

      Your not out!
      Another whiner!
      What off to a higher priced carrier?

      • Jay

        Not if he goes to pre-paid which now some of them offer “4G” and Android phones.

        • remixfa

          which prepaid is 4g? lol. Metro is testing 4g, but its not rolled out and wont be for a while. Dont expect it to be 40 a month for LTE either.

          and jake, if they are telling you all the contracts will be extended, it means they are trying to put you on a promotional plan. tell them you just want the regular plans. They dont require contract extensions on any lines.

  • zuben el genubi

    I had to call as somehow my plan got switched. I never had unlimited talk, I did add the text and web while it was on special. The rep even asked what I thought I had. I don’t need unlimited talk! And I don’t want to go back on contract.

  • zuben el genubi

    I had to call as somehow my plan got switched. I never had unlimited talk, I did add the text and web while it was on special. The rep even asked what I thought I had. I don’t need unlimited talk! And I don’t want to go back on contract.

  • jake

    Bober suck my b*lls. The 20 month installment was a major incentive for me. Thankfully there is a cricket store with a fully functioning droid x and evo with no contract. Cheaper monthly plans and I can spend my yearly bonus with aless expensive carrier. Also I made a mess up your moms poopr and out you came.

    • thisguy

      what are we? 5 years old?

  • bob

    to many customer were getting switch to even more plus plans with out know what it really was. customers just saw lower price plans and dont really understand there is no “upgrade”. you dont know how many times i get that at our store. Im here to upgrade! you have a no contract plan. what? i been a customer for years. well you switch the plan. but i didnt know i would lose my upgrade. Hopefully this makes things simple stupid because as a rule of thumb most customers are just that. they dont research what they want and want you to hold their hand. this website and its viewers represent about 2% of the actual customer base. Most people dont have a clue. also the Installment plan backfired because people would get the phones then default months later.

    • BrainlessDrone

      “but i didnt know i would lose my upgrade.”

      While I believe customers are generally dumb as rocks, I’d have to say that statement is indicative of the failures of a Tmobile Sales Rep.

      • thisguy

        wrong man, It is repeated to the customer 500 times that they will loose the upgrade perk in change for a lower monthly cost….and they just nod and say yes and sign away…

        read before signing anything is my suggestion to everyone

      • Magenta Magic

        “failures of a tmobile sales rep” my magenta-loving a$$… Like “thisguy” said, you can repeat it to the average customer until you are blue in the face, but come the next phone release, they act like it’s brand new to them.

        better yet are the ones that come back within a few days just to test you and end up getting free stuff because they know how to work the system and take it to corporate, claiming the rep never explained anything.

        that guy made me question why i’ve gone on a killing spree… :)

        • Zuben

          Sorry, but some of us did read the fine print and opted for plus. Out of contract, have phones that work and not caring about or needing the latest and greatest, Plus was ideal. I like having no contract. I will probably stay with TM, but I sure hated the reps trying to upsell everything that would extend contract. Value and service will keep me, not new phones and services.

  • I’m A Bit Lost. Okay, So No More EM+ Plans. So Therefore It’s Either A 2 Year Contract Or Prepaid…

    I’ve Got All Grandfathered Plans.
    39.99 For 1000 Mins With N&W’s
    19.99 For Sidekick Unlimited (Data & Txt)
    5.99 For Insurance Bundle

    But My Bill Is Always 87. I Cannot Decide Weather I Should Change Plan, Or Not.

    • Jet

      do you still use a sidekick or are you on an android device now? When I switched from sk to android, I had them update me to even more plus and it ended up cheaper for the family plan.

  • TechieChicky

    I’m on the Preferred GM Nts plan and, while I don’t see the EM+ plan available on the t-mobile website, if I log into my account and go to change plans it is an option and it will let me change to it with the $200 contract cancellation fee. I’m looking at it right now. So it is still an option.

    Maybe is doing some updating; there are areas of my account pages that look different. Maybe they aren’t going to advertise the EM+ plans.. I don’t know… but it is still available to me.

  • Beef

    I think they don’t want to offer those plans unless customers specifically ask for them. Some people like myself want to pay full price for a phone and dont want any contract. when like-minded people come in and get all blustery about these issues, then they can just whip out the even more plus.

  • David

    My reply never posted. Shocking.

    • David, Managing Editor

      It posted! Check below because it definitely posted. That being said I agree that the mere presence of a post here can create quite a stir and that is something I am absolutely aware of. I would have NOT posted, had I not had some other reason to believe the EM+ plans were going away today, or at some point in the future. If I could post every email I receive then I would, but I think we both know thats not going to happen. I hope that you will trust I don’t post stuff on this website for the mere sake of pageviews, that is NOT something I am concerned with. I only strive to provide the very best information for the T-Mobile community and sometimes that information comes without “physical” support if you will. I updated the post itself to ensure that people aren’t taking the post out of context as the original post did clearly state this information was unsubstantiated from T-Mobile directly, but I also inserted a line that stated it lined up with information we had heard previously.

      In fact, I haven’t posted that information because I had no support to provide, other than the word of trusted sources. However, given todays happenings I felt it warranted to raise the question so I apologize if anyone mistook it as absolute fact but I tried to make it clear in the post that the evidence was circumstantial but believable. That being said, I still have to wonder what is going on, its really very odd for all of those sites to have the EM+ missing, for T-Mobile to have their website “glitch” since the morning, 50% of their rate plan offerings are missing and nary a word about it from their social media channels? I just find all of that odd and maybe I am connecting dots that don’t exist but its my take, not the site but my own personal opinion that something is going on.

      • David

        Fair enough, thanks for clarifying your point. I appreciate it.

      • SublimeDavid

        It’s fair to saw from what im seeing on the company perspective is that EMP is going away, with the test trial in phoenix on just em plans.

      • remixfa

        your just connecting 1 too many dots. like my post at the top of the thread said, if you go into a store, EM+ is still alive and well. I activated one today. Maybe they are just getting out of promoting it online. They were having many issues with people putting it on the 20 month payment plan and defaulting and running off with a $500 G2 for 25 bux. They have lowered the credit amount availible to most credit classes to offset the defaulting rate. Unfortunatly for those with lower credit, they had their billing availiblity taken from a small amount to zero.
        they were having other issues relating to new features on the EM+ plans so maybe they just removed them from online until they could get it situated.

  • TMoFan

    Wow if it’s true that TMo is doing away with EM+ then that’s too bad. It seems like a lot of people here took advantage of those plans and if the customer is paying for the phone why do away with it? It was an advantage to TMo that you could get a good rate plan without a contract; it really set them apart from the competition. WTF TMo?

    • Kayleetay86

      Okay to everyone that has the questions about the EM+ plans yes they are still avaliable, not on the web site today with the launch of the new plans they system kinda went haywire and knocked them off. They are still avaliable they are just making some changes to them where as to if you switched to the EM+ you couldn’t switch back to a contract plan without canceling servies and re-activating a new one. Customers have spoke and with the miss understanding on paying a cheaper rate plan and not getting a discount on a phone Pissed people off because they didn’t look at the term. SO the changes they are making it is letting reps change the account plan back to a contract plan NOW so that the customer will be able to upgrade. SO they are still avaliable it is just something that you have to look more into and call us because people didn’t understand what they were really getting into when they changed it online. Sorry about the web site today it was a crazy day at the call center as well, things should be resolved no later then WED this week

      • Magenta Magic

        To switch from EM+ to EM you have to perform a qualifying upgrade at the very least. Can’t just switch because you wanna…

  • dcb

    Relax people! EM+ has not been taken away…..there have been some system issues with the launch of the new plans and I have no idea why they are not available on the website but there has no communication to us whatsoever that these plans are discontinued and they are still available in our systems to activate for people if they choose…..there us no way that these would be discontinued without a communication about it so as of now there is no need to

  • down…. website has been down for me for most of the day

  • danbutter

    Wow. I hope that it comes back…I had planned on getting the EM+ in just a couple weeks from now. Won’t do contract with them again…well not two years anyway.
    Do they still have a one year contract option??

  • Fabian

    Ya, I called and they were able to instil it, if I wanted. I was uber upset Ithought that it was gone,.

  • Russ

    Yeah, they dropped account credit lines across the board (EM and EM+ plans) like a week ago. I’ve had some irritated customers.

    It would actually make a LOT of sense if they dropped the EM+ plans, they really suck for retail reps, and they’re stupid and confusing for customers. With the new Prepaid plans it would REALLY make a lot of sense to drop EM+, then you have a prepaid alternative if contracts aren’t for you.

    Assuming they give customers the ability to convert back to EM plans.

    • g8351427

      I think the EM+ are pure genius. I do realize that most people are stupid and do not get their value, but don’t make the rest of us suffer.

      I went into a retail store, looked at the difference in price between a MT4G w/contract and without. It is a choice of $200 today and $20 increase in monthly cost for the 24 month contract or $50 today and $22 a month for 19 months. Hmmm, I wonder which is more affordable.

      There is no such thing as a free phone or even a heavily discounted one. The carrier will get you to pay for the phone either up front or over the life of the contract. And then keep collecting from you even after you have paid off the cost of the phone in higher monthly rates. Your choice.

    • remixfa

      nah russ,
      it would be better if they just dropped the lowest class of flexpay no contract since they have the new prepaid plans that circumvent them. that would be less confusion. no contract is great for most people… most just dont realize it at

  • NiteWalker

    When I spoke to t-mobile earlier I asked specifically if they were doing away with EM+. The rep I spoke to (very knowledgeable since she helped me with a phone problem I was having we were on the phone for a long while talking) said they’re not getting rid of it; just changing the name.

    As of 10:10 est I can still go into my account and change to a different EM+ plan. I’m on the 3000 talk+unlimited text family plan for $99 and 2 additional lines for $0 (kids are free promo).

  • going_home

    I am on the original “Android” / loyalty plan when I did the pre-buy on the G1.
    $49.99 unlimited minutes in the US and $24.99 unlimited data, 400 texts.
    My contract ran out last month so currently no contract (dont really want another one either).

    A while back I bought a Nexus One on Craigslist and my bills have not changed.
    I use the wifi hotspot a lot at work.

    So heres my questions TMO people :

    1) Will I be charged for wifi hotspot useage now ?

    2) If I buy a G2 on Craigslist, will using a 4G phone make my charges go up ?

    I dont want my grandfathered plan to change….its about $92.00 a month with taxes and insurance.
    Hopefully a TMO employee can shed some light.


    • 2FR35H

      1) I wouldn’t think so

      2) No

    • Magenta Magic

      If you tether, you will have to add the $15/mo tether feature, otherwise nothing should change. Data network speed doesn’t change your billing. (Imagine if it did… “Sorry, the 4G towers are wonky today and only offering EDGE… so you get 50% today’s prorated data charges…” ugh, nevermind, confusing…)

  • shadowdawg

    Hmm.. Maby it’s removed for marketing purpose, to boost sales for 24
    Em+ plans are still available under the add a line tab so not sure, what’s also weird is the upgrade option is now removed for me:(

  • hector

    as far as i know the use of wi-fi on any phone has notting to do with tmobile so no worries there ever,as for the 4g phone if you dont have data connection no worries there also but then you wont have the use of 4g without data, now if your saying if you can still use your data that you ready have with the 4g phone am sure you can ,

    • going_home

      I am asking about using the wifi hotspot feature on my Nexus, not using a wifi connection for internet. They started charging today for tethering and wifi hotspot features.

  • Pig Vomit

    I’ve got an Even More 1000 Min plan with unlimited web and a grandfathered $5/month for 300 texts, paying $85/mo. Tried to switch over to the promotional plan for Even More 1500 unlimited text and web, they told me I couldn’t do it. I didn’t really understand it, and asked for clarification. The person I spoke with said it was because they consider the promotional plan to include $20/month for the web, where I’m currently considered to be paying $30/month for the web. As such, they won’t let me “downgrade” my Vibrant to this plan.

    Anyone else had a similar problem, or did I just get a salesperson who didn’t know what she was doing?

    • SublimeDavid

      You can move to it so I would try calling Cust Care again. Some are not as inclined to do it and others will gladly do it, I can tell you it is an option you have just be nice to the rep you talk to.

  • If you’re still wanting the no-contract plans, the magic word may be “FlexPay.” Link:

    • colinnwn

      I see that page says Flexpay at the top, and EM+ on the itemized lines. I’m not sure what T-Mo is up to, doing stupid, or just has a messed up website.

      Flexpay used to be prepaid – see this fAQ

      EM+ used to be postpaid. I know, I’ve had it since month 1.

      If they are combining the 2 different products, and switching me to prepaid, with all its problems and CSR issues, I’m history.

  • samoled

    If I buy a Mytouch 4g from craigslist, do I have to switch my plan to a 4g plan? or can I keep my current plan. Since the network is the same and only the phone’s capabilities change the speed, the plan I have shouldn’t be an issue, right? It’s recieving the same signal on the same network.

  • I too saw EM+ today morning, when I was trying to find HD7 aka Windows Phone 7 wihtout contract. I’m from ATT, iPhone 3G, planning to move to TMo. But, these forceful movement to different plans, make me scary not to move to TMo. What’s happening to existing TMo customers is really not a good sign for someone from other carriers panning to move to TMo. :(

    • colinnwn

      I’ve been with T-Mo for more than 5 years, had several of my plans no longer marketed, but every time they grandfathered me. I’ve never been forcefully moved. I’ve only chosen to upgrade when I wanted a new feature, or a newer plan was better.

  • The problem lately is that sincere TMobile removed the get more plans with the myfaves options, TMobile has been losing customers sharply.

    Tmobile has been adding more prepaid customers than post paid in the past 2 years. Em+ is kinda hurting them.

    • colinnwn

      “adding more prepaid customers than post paid in the past 2 years. Em+ is kinda hurting them.”

      EM+ was postpaid. They may be changing that now given what is currently on the website, but it never used to be prepaid. I’ve been on EM+ for about a year.

  • km

    if i plan on getting a venue pro, is there an additional data charge? this is what’ll determine which of these new plans i choose.

  • cj

    I hate it when a company calls itself a value leader. They forget what made them a value leader, in the first place. T-mobile is now cashing in on their 4G network. Rather than offering real value for our money,they just started matching the status quo. They say we are offer the best deal, because of our 4G, but they are only fooling themselves. What I believe they should have done, was to offer 4G as cheap as 3G. Beat Sprint’s Everything Plan by about at least 20 dollars, with 4G. All they are going to do is alienate their curtain customers, who will drop them as soon possible. Many of us are loyal T-Mobile users, our affiliation to this website shows that. But we are the exception to the average phone buyer, people don’t keep allegiances any more. They go with who offers them the best deal, and phone(especially when they are all $199.99).

    • UzukiC

      Do More is very clearly competitive and offers more bang for the buck when it comes to whenever minutes, especially for 3+ lines. (Family network, remember?) It seems fair to me to call them a value leader – as much as Tmo is keeping up with the jones’ on the rate plan costs, they also need the funds to take care of long term costs to stay competitive too, so asking for $20 less from everyone on their bill may not be the best choice if Tmo still wants to value lead in the future. Price may be important, but data speeds are king, and every company needs to invest huge into it right now.

  • michael

    i pay only 144 for 5 lines and 1 ulmd web. i also have a mt4g am using my wifi hotspot right now no extra charge.

  • DylonCorp

    If EM+ goes away, I guarantee you that it will not be popularity or the low cost of the plans themselves that killed them but instead the amount of fraud going on. Soooo many 4 or 5 line smartphones open and get closed out and somehow the 19 payments left never quite get taken care of.

    • Miro

      wait, i thought only EM plans could stretch over 20 months. WHen I attempt buying a handset online it only gives me 3 months max. Although in i get $500 credit per line but we’ve been with T-Mobile for 4+ years

      not surprised that people can’t leave good enough alone

      • Viper Matrix Wireless

        EM does 3 & EM+ does 19 total.

      • colinnwn

        EM was the plan that allowed cheaper phone purchases but higher monthly cost. You could spread the lower phone purchase over 3 months. EM+ gave you cheaper monthly service, but you had to purchase the phone at full cost. To make up for this, T-Mo optionally allowed customers with qualified credit to spread the larger cost over 20 months with no interest.

        They’ve had a big problem with people not finishing their 20 monthly payments and canceling their account without paying the remaining on their phone. To combat this, they are offering less available credit to certain customers.

  • Viper Matrix Wireless

    I think they actually removed them to promote Even More at this time & will re-add them later when the promotion has ended.

  • Viper Matrix Wireless

    OK upgrading is fixed & I still have my line of credit.

    BTW the tethering plans still have not launched. So I see an issue with that.

  • Rrrush

    The EM Plus plans were a BAD IDEA from the start. Why is a non contracted rate plan CHEAPER than a contracted one? Theoretically it is based on the handset subsidy, but it is just confusing the customers. You can see this because so many customers that switched to the EM+ come in to the stores for an upgrade. Tmo tried the EM+ as a “game changer” to attempt to use a business model that does not involve subsidies. Did it change the game? Did T-Mobile add nearly as many subscribers as they would have hoped to? Apparently not. The quarterly results speak for themselves. I hope the EM+ plans are going away for good.

    That being said, I applaud T-Mobile’s efforts of late. The new promo plans that are only available on EM are great. The prepay offer is also much better. Much more aggressive advertising, and great products. This is the direction they need to continue to take.

    • mingkee

      What the HELL are you talking about?
      How much do you pay behind the phone discount?
      EM+ 3 in 1 is 20 dollars cheaper than EM, which is $480 after 2 years. It’s enough to buy a decent unlocked phone!!!
      EM+ may not be for you, but it’s a great deal if you bring in unlocked phones!!!

    • Miro

      um duh?
      EM+ is cheaper because you’re bringing your own phone OR you’re getting a phone from Tmobile without a subsidy. The EM+ plans are cheaper AND data is cheaper, at least the unlimited $30 on contract vs $25 without contract, per month.

      It makes perfect sense

      Just because there are idiots who can’t, don’t or won’t read doesn’t mean something’s bad

    • colinnwn

      EM+ wasn’t confusing to this customer. And I know T-Mo usually grandfathers the no longer offered rate plans, but if they took EM+ away from me, I’d be a new Creedo or Sprint customer.

  • mikes

    Iwas going to switch to Tmo from AT&T. I was going to get an Android phone and two feature phones. That was $79.99 for 1500 minutes, $20 for unlimited texting and $30 Android and 2X $10 for unlimited data on the feature phones. Now, if go to T-mopbile and reconfigure I have to get a $30+ data plan on all three lines! No way!

    • EstoyLoco

      So you were looking at:
      $79.99 for 1500 minutes, $20 for unlimited texting and $30 Android and 2X $10 for unlimited data.
      80+20+30+20 = $150 for 1500 mins+txt+unlimited data for 1 android and 2 featurephones.

      If you can afford an extra $20/mo. Just get the $149.99 3000 min promo plan and get 3 full fledge Androids/BB/WM7 whatever.
      $149.99 + $20 unlimited data for 3rd phone.
      $170 for 3000 mins+txt+unlimited data for 3 full fledged smartphones.

  • Edward Mullens

    You think they will ever be able to figure out that changing rate plans and promotions ALL the time, adding in new “areas of importance” and then dropping them shortly, and having a system of plans and prices that noone ever understands is BAD FOR BUSINESS and BAD FOR CUSTIMERS? Seriously do they not understand what simplicity and being consistant are?

  • mingkee
    • zuben

      So if those plans are now flexpay, are those of us who were postpaid going to have to use flexpay rules? Especially if we have always paid our bills on time?
      Also, about the 4G. My phone can’t use it. It’s unlocked European. So they can’t throttle me back to edge since that’s all I can use. I can’t check usage as website is still buggered. I’m not sure what the other phone on the account used as we only added web in September.

    • zuben

      That link still works, however, if you try to find it from the main page, you get a page that tells you how to get a phone, and says to check at your local store for a flexpay plan. To even find that, had to use the site map link.

  • aagvain

    i needed to move a line off of a family and was able to get an EM+ plan yesterday. wouldnt let me login until this morning and my plan shows up as even more plus

  • Viper Matrix Wireless

    I have not seen one EM+ account that was actually Postpaid. Dont you gotta pay to get your services before the new billing cycle?

    • sirphunkee

      You can have EM+ plans that are prepaid (flexpay) or postpaid. I used to have a flexpay EM+ plan, up until about 6 months ago, when I got “upgraded” to a post-paid account, but retained the same EM+ pricing plan.

      • Viper Matrix Wireless

        But do they not run your credit?

    • Tim

      EM+ plans are regular post-paid plans, the only difference being you don’t sign a contract… I had a post-paid plan with TMO for 4 years before switching to EM+.

  • Innuendo

    “Even More Plus Going Away!”

    Right, you guys *never* said EM+ was for sure going away, it was just speculation based off of current information.

    How about if you are just speculating maybe not put a declartive statement in the title of an article. Or at least end it with a Question mark and not an exclamation point?

    Don’t kid yourselves here tmonews, you jumped and now you look silly. When you say something and everyone interprets your words as meaning on thing, you, as decent, honest, journalists, are at fault. That title alone is an afront on calculated journalism. In other words, “Tmonews doing away with trying to vet information!”

    I was just going off of current information…it is a bid odd they make such a blanket title :)

  • WXman

    Show me one state in the entire contiguous 48 where TMo has 3G in more than half of it’s coverage area. Just one. You can’t. Most people will NEVER see 3G pop up on their phones, much less this “4G” they keep falsely advertising about. TMo has many good qualities… their network isn’t one of them. They suck. And I’m sick of the misleading ads they are putting on TV. With TMo.. it’s GPRS or EDGE almost everywhere. The ONLY good thing about that new commercial I saw is that they poke fun at the iPhone.

    • DatNizzle

      What are you talking about? I live in Raliegh, NC. Nowhere near a big city, and have 3g everywhere I go. If you live in the suburbs or in a rural area forget 4g, it’s not for you. My phone used to always say 3g, now it just always says H.
      I work in a smaller town and have no problem getting 3g, even better signal in the warehouse than everyone else. T-mobile’s signal is great for me.
      I’ve said it once I’ll say it again, the problem is you live in a hole-in-the-wall, that’s your choice, not T-mobile’s fault.

    • Who2Host

      I live 40 minutes north of Pittsburgh, PA and I never get 3g or hspa in my town. We only get edge with T-Mobile and sometimes still gprs in some cases. It’s a small town, but Verizon and Sprint both have very fast internet speeds. I have been patient with T-Mobile in waiting for them to upgrade, but my contract is up and I can get Verizon’s family plan with superior data coverage more minutes and 10 numbers to call for free for the same price I’m paying for EDGE with T-Mobile.

      • DatNizzle

        I said it once I’ll say it again. If you describe the city you live in by telling me how close it is to a real city, your data will suck. Period. I’m sure Pittsburgh has 3 even 4g, because of population density. Some random suburb is not going to have fast data. As i said the problem is your choice of location.
        When we travel to the boondocks to see my girl’s family we don’t get a signal, no one but US cellular does. It’s because there are not enough people for a big company to worry about. That’s the way it is.

        • Who2Host

          Did you read my post? VERIZON AND SPRINT HAVE 3G HERE, Just not T-Mobile. AT&T has 3G here in some spots, but t-mobile has absolutely no 3G anywhere in my town, all EDGE.

          So to say that they have the best network or anywhere even close is total crap.

  • MIke

    I’ll tell you whats going going. T Mobile just came out with their “limited time” pricing on some of their rate plans with a little more minutes for contract plans, and I would bet T Mobile took away EM+ to get people to sign up for those contract plans until their limited time pricing expires.

    I also find it odd though that other social media sites haven’t reported the EM+ plans as “missing” from the plan pricing page.

    I expected Engadget and others to have had a story up by now but I guess I’m wrong on that.

  • Who2Host

    The comparison chart is kind of deceptive. For instance, Verizon gives you 10 numbers to call for free, therefore, I wouldn’t need as many minutes. I could get the 1500 minute family plan with Verizon and get 10 numbers to call. That would eliminate the need for the extra minutes.

    IMHO, T-Mo is not competitive on the family plans. They only give you nights and weekends and tmo to tmo. Other carriers give you either unlimited wireless calling no matter the network or extra numbers that are unlimited.

    Step your game up T-Mo!

    • dc

      So you think that verizon is competitive on family plans??? Their 1400 minute family plan with the 10 friends and family and texting is the same price as T-Mobile’s unlimited family plan with unlimited texting…..if you have unlimited minutes then “freinds and family” or “my faves” doesn’t matter…. research please.

      • Who2Host

        For me, having 10 numbers to share along with 1400 minutes is virtually unlimited. Also, if you get a Google number and use GV callback and set your google number as one of your fave numbers it is unlimited….research please.

        • Who2Host

          I don’t really use text so I’m looking at the their $89 plan for 1400 minutes and the 10 numbers + data.

        • dcb

          but the price is the same…. with unlimited minutes you dont have to worry about minutes or who is in your friends and family….what research would you suggest?? my point was more to the “value” of t-mobile related to verizon not whether 1400 minutes is enough for some people

  • Any one has any ideas When are retailers like wirefly, amazon and costco wireless are going to start offering this $10 data plan ? want to move to tmobile with 2 lines but dont want unlimited web on both lines…

  • RJ

    So has anyone received a definitive answer on if you are already an EM+ customer, if you can keep your plan and price? I’m concerned because those plans were non-contract and I assume they could change at anytime.

    • dcb

      even if em+ were to be discontinued you will be able to keep it as long as you want….em+ is still alive and well so nothing to worry about right now…it mat be phased out eventually as rate plans continue to evolve with all carriers….I have worked for t-mobile for several years and i have never seen us force anyone to change.

  • rhomaion
    • dcb


  • I’m a current customer of t-mo on the unlimited family plan for $180. I just tried logging into my account and switching to the even more 3000 for $150 with unlimited web and it doesn’t give me that plan option. However when I log out of my account and review the available plans its right there! Is this plan only for new customers?

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  • Mustang8918

    I just logged into my account and it showed and allowed me to change my EM+ account to one with more minutes.

  • carlos


    after years of contemplating, i am finally ready to jump on the smartphone bandwagon (i’ve never had a smartphone). my intitial intentions were to buy the cell (HD7) upfront and committ to EM+ plans, but it appears as though this form of service is on a shaky edge. going through the t-mobile website, though, i was intrigued by the 500-min, unlimited text, 200mb web contract service for 59.99 a month; the monthly price definitely suits me. for those of you out there with smartphones and web/data services, is 200mb too little a limit? i plan to integrate my email and facebook accounts to the phone, and of course will be doing some web browsing when my day is slow and a computer isn’t near by. any help would be appreciated, thanks in advance.

    • colinnwn

      It seems most people who don’t stream internet music (from something like Pandora) and don’t stream videos, use less than 200mb/mo, perhaps 100-150. So I think you’d be fine with that plan.

      However EM+ postpaid plans are still available by calling, or going into a T-Mo store, and perhaps the website will be fixed to where you can order EM+ (not prepaid). If one of those plans suits your fancy more, I’d call or go in. I’ve never had T-Mo force me off a plan because they quit offering it. And usually most add-ons and upgrades for that plan series continue to be available.

      There’s really no reason to worry they’ll quit offering a specific plan, unless you want that plan and haven’t signed up yet.


    So now EM+ Customers cant upgrade there phones??
    I had 1051 Line of Credit and Prior to a week, I was going to get the MT4G and the Purchase Option was there. Now the Option to purchase is Gone!!! along with my credit line wrf??

    • DREAMA

      Never mind…It has returned. But 4days ago it was gone!