Uncarrier Amped beginning with a revamped JUMP! plan

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Just a few seconds ago, John Legere tweeted out the first in today’s announcements. Or rather, teased at an announcement before then going on to explain. At time of beginning this post, he hadn’t yet said anything specific except that JUMP! is getting a revamp.

This post is developing, I’ll keep adding information as I wade through it.

UPDATE: T-Mobile has updated its newsroom page with the full press release, and there’s now a landing page on its main website with all the details. The new JUMP program is dubbed JUMP on Demand and is – in a nutshell – a phone lease program, but it seems great value if you’re not too bothered about whether you personally own the phone, or not.

The deal will be available to both new and existing customers when it officially goes live on June 28th (this coming Sunday). Customers signing up will need to have qualifying credit, but there’s zero out of pocket, zero sales tax, and you get to walk out the store with a brand new phone after signing up to pay a low monthly payment.  What’s more, you can upgrade your phone to a new one whenever you like, up to a maximum of three times every year.

When you want to upgrade, simply take your phone back in to store. T-Mobile will check it over to make sure it’s in good working order and then swap it out for your desired new smartphone. The same goes for customers on the existing JUMP plan. If you want to switch to the new JUMP on Demand just take in the phone you got on your last upgrade and switch to the new lease program. You’ll no longer have to pay an extra $10 per month, since the ability to upgrade when you like is included. What’s more, because there’s no EIP, you won’t have the same obligation to pay at least 50% of the phone’s retail price. Unlike the old JUMP, however, there’s no built-in device insurance. Those who still want T-Mobile’s premium handset protection will can do so by paying an extra $8 per month.

As an example, the 16GB iPhone 6 will be available on the JUMP! on Demand program with $0 up front and payments of $15 per month.

Fine print:

“JUMP! On Demand: Qualifying credit and service required. You must trade-in eligible device in good condition at participating T-Mobile store and upgrade to eligible device on lease; up to 3 times per 12 mos. Participating stores & select devices. iPhone 6 Offer: Subject to credit approval. Eligible paid-off smartphone trade-in, lease, and qualifying service required. $15/mo for 18-mo lease via monthly bill credits over 18 mos. Must remain on qualifying service in good standing for duration of Lease term. After 18 mos you must return device in good condition or exercise purchase option. You are responsible for insurance/repairs; insurance recommended (required for CT customers). Tax additional. Not available with Contract Freedom (device pay-off) or other trade-in offers. No device security deposit required. Late/non-payment fees may apply. Participating stores only..”

Here’s what John Legere had to say in his video about the new JUMP program:

“We’ve taken two good ideas – Device Leasing and On-demand phone upgrades – and we brought them together.

What does that mean for you? It means complete freedom to get a new phone without the wait or expense. It’s completely Un-carrier!

Here’s how it’s different: No more $10 monthly fee, and you won’t pay a single penny out of pocket to walk out the door with your new smartphone, not even sales tax. Your monthly phone payment gets you a new smartphone, and you can swap it in for a brand new one absolutely any time you want. You can get up to three new phones in a year, which means you could get 6 new phones from T-Mobile in the same time it takes you to get just one upgrade from Verizon.

So to kick things off, you will be able to get one for $15 per month at T-Mobile. Trade in your old phone, get a new iPhone 6 and you’ll get the freedom to upgrade when the next iPhone comes out, or whatever you want.”

Developing… [We’ll update the post with every tweet if we have to, newest ones will be at the top, oldest at the bottom]:

Turns out, John used a video on Twitter to explain the whole deal. Here it is:

Source: Twitter [John Legere]

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  • hack400
  • chase1963

    #ZeroBullshit!

  • randomnerd_number38

    Ooh, now this is sounding intriguing.

    For those that want a text explanation:

    Phone leases. Trade in your leased phone and get a new one up to 3 times a year. No sales tax tax or fees. No $10 a month for JUMP. I’m guessing since you’re leasing, the insurance is included in the lease payment. He even claims iPhone for 15 bucks a month and upgrade when the new one hits in a few months, all with no fees.
    Starts June 28th

    Needs more details, but of course he says it “really is that simple”

    • Cam Bunton

      Working on it, but yeah, it’s essentially an 18-month phone lease. You can bring the phone in and swap it for a new one whenever you like.

      • taxandspend

        I wonder if the lease payment is simply full price / 18. That could be the big difference. At the end of the lease, with that final payment, I wonder how that’s calculated. This could be the catch.

        • GersonT1000

          No. If you look at the sample rates in the Jump! On Demand fact sheet pdf they provide, a Galaxy S6 Edge costs $32.49/month for the 18 months. So it really is the full price/24.

      • So what if you want a 64gb or 128gb iPhone … Is it still 15 a month

        • randomnerd_number38

          I doubt it. He says that the new jump payments will be about the same as EIP payments

        • GersonT1000

          No. The rate is FullPrice/24. The iPhone 6 case is a special offer because it requires a Trade-In to start.

  • justanormalguy13

    Hmm, need a lot more details.

  • SBacklin
  • PC_Tool

    Holy Sh*t. Did I hear that right???

  • hack400

    The press release is on T-Mobile’s website now

  • Jacob Roth

    Cam can you find out if that is a hard credit inquiry every time you switch? I could see that damaging some credit scores if they do it 3 times which I assume they have to since you are financing it.

    • randomnerd_number38

      T-Mobile doesn’t even do a hard credit check now to finance upgrading your phone.

      Source: my credit sucks ass(sub-500), I’m going through a foreclosure, and I was still able to get my wife a new note 4 a few weeks ago

      • Jacob Roth

        Thanks for sharing. So it sounds like they just treat it as a bill now and not technically a credit line

        • randomnerd_number38

          Kinda. It’s like a lease-to-own option because technically the phone is owned by T-Mobile unless you pay lease payments equal to the full retail cost of the phone(or elect to simply pay in one large lump sum). That’s how t-mobile is able to manage no upfront sales tax.

      • Visvism

        Thanks for clarifying but umm are you sure what you need is a new phone with a credit score that low and a foreclosure taking place.

        • randomnerd_number38

          Probably not.

          Did having me say that give you a nice little rush of “yay, I called out a dude on the Internet about his poor financial decisions! I’m much better than him?”

        • Visvism

          No, no not at all. Just stating that if you’re going through all of that then perhaps you shouldn’t be focused on a new cellular phone. No satisfaction one way or the other on this end.

          At the end of the day a phone is a phone, nothing more and nothing less. Although it looks nice, the typical person doesn’t need a new phone 3 times a year. Heck most people don’t even need a new phone once a year. The thing is we ‘want’ new phones just like a lot of our other wants in life that are causing us as a society to become dependent on debt and financing. But I don’t know your finances so you do how you best see fit.

        • randomnerd_number38

          Sorry I got snippy with you. You’re right, of course. I just regret even giving those details now because it opens me up to comments like yours. Nobody likes having their flaws pointed out.

        • Walter Lonsdale

          Keep the faith my friend, you are in good company nowadays!

        • Walter Lonsdale

          What does that have to do with anything?

  • Cam Bunton

    I’m adding in more detail now, stay tuned.

  • Josh

    Via bill credits when you trade in your eligible smartphone.
    smh here we go you need to trade in a phone just to get the iphone 6 for 15$

    • JLV90

      get a $20 phone from walmart to trade in

  • Sushimane

    This is so tempting I just paid off my z3 and now I can get a new phone for just 15 dollars a month pretty sweet. I’m just curious how is this going to be profitable for them. Cellphone sale would go through the roof for sure. Nice deal

    • Cam Bunton

      Because they don’t actually sell the phones. It’s a lease. You’re just borrowing a phone from them. So, you’re giving them money to use something that’s still technically their property.

  • Youssif Shehab

    “After 18 mos you must return device in good condition or exercise purchase option”- Can anyone find out what that purchase option is? Do I pay the rest of the price of the phone or does it come out at a discount after 18 months

    • randomnerd_number38

      You pay off the rest of the cost of the phone, full retail price minus your lease payments for the previous 18 months

      • taxandspend

        So in the case of the iPhone 6 ($650), you pay $15/month for 18 months. At the end of the 18 months, you either turn in the phone, or pay 650-18*15=$380 and keep the phone.

        • randomnerd_number38

          correct. This definitely isn’t a program for people who want to own their phones.

        • Cam Bunton

          For sure. But for those already on JUMP!, it works out much better. No EIP, no extra fee. Have to return your phone anyway.

          So you’re now either going to go with EIP and own your phone, or go with JUMP! on Demand and return it when you’re ready to upgrade.

        • randomnerd_number38

          Agreed, this is a nice improvement to JUMP :) I hope I can take advantage of it this fall(I just got a new iPhone 6 plus a few months ago)

        • taxandspend

          In the fine print you posted, it said the payoff was $164. That means you get an iPhone 6 for a total of $434? Something must be wrong.

        • randomnerd_number38

          I’m guessing it’s because to get the iPhone for 15 bucks a month, you have to trade in a phone. So they’re basically guaranteeing your trade in is worth about 200. Combination of the new JUMP and a special limited-time offer.

        • taxandspend

          Ok that $164 figure has disappeared from the fine print.

  • randomnerd_number38

    18 month lease with no fees and no tax due at time of initial transaction. At end of 18 months, you MUST either pay off the remaining balance of phone or trade it in and lease a new one.

    Insurance is 8 dollars a month.

    biggest advantages:
    New phone up to 3 times a year
    No taxes or fees to get new phone
    Costs about the same as phone payments are now

    Biggest disadvantages:
    If Phone incurs damage, you’re stuck with full retail cost if you don’t have insurance.
    Phone is not fully owned by you unless you decide to pay off the remaining balance at the end of 18 months instead of upgrading

    • Youssif Shehab

      I thought insurance is already included with all Jump programs

      • randomnerd_number38

        It is with current JUMP customers. Not on the new JUMP on demand apparently.

  • JLV90

    Very interesting as long as I don’t have to pay anything extra to upgrade 3 times per year.

    • Cam Bunton

      I wouldn’t even mind that I don’t really own the device. If I was on the old Jump, I’d have to return my phone anyway.

  • ZJR

    “Just trade in your eligible device and get credit for all remaining device payments, up to half of its original cost.” Talk about burying the lead. So there are fees. You have to pay off 50% of the device to be able to trade in. Still not bad but not what they are making it sound to be.

    • Cam Bunton

      That sounds like terms for the old Jump plan. Where did you see that?

      • ZJR
        • Anthony Rynearson

          it is for regular jump it is included here because the page has “more grate was to upgrade” section witch talks about jump

        • Cam Bunton

          Yep. The fine print includes terms for JUMP! on Demand, SCORE! and the current JUMP!. It’s a catch-all. You’re reading from the existing JUMP! program section.

        • MTN

          It’s very clearly explaining the original JUMP. It goes over Jump on Demand, SCORE, and JUMP T&Cs. All labeled.

    • randomnerd_number38

      That’s the current terms of JUMP. The new JUMP on demand doesn’t start until the 28th. New T&C’s aren’t up yet

  • alex

    is there a list of qualified phones? i am jumping on this… this is just amazing.
    basically keep the phone for 4 months, pay $60 over a period of 4 months, trade in a 4 months old phone and get a new phone? sounds too good to be true. am i getting this right?

    • Cam Bunton

      They included a link in the press release for available phones, but it only leads to the Jump on Demand landing page, no phones except the iPhone are mentioned right now.

      • taxandspend

        There’s a PDF that downloads and mentions the S6, S6 Edge, Note 4. I don’t know if that was their complete list though

  • Matt Ferguson

    So what about those of us that are not currently using JUMP? I wonder when that question will be able to be answered by T-Mobile. I did not read anywhere on that page about existing non JUMP customers.

    • Cam Bunton

      The terms of your EIP don’t change. You can still pay that off whenever you want, sell the phone, trade it in etc.

      • Matt Ferguson

        So this really only benefits new or current JUMP customers…..

        • randomnerd_number38

          True, but John heavily implied in his post that there are more announcements coming.

        • Johnny 5

          I’m sure you can use JUMP, turn in your phone for a new one, and not worry about payments.

  • D. Maki

    What about people like me who are not on the Jump plan? What If I wanted to buy a new phone.

    • Cam Bunton

      With the new JUMP! on Demand, you don’t buy the phone. You lease it. So if you currently have an EIP (and aren’t on JUMP), you’d need to pay off your existing installments. Once you’ve done that, you’re free to get onboard the new Jump! on Demand.

    • randomnerd_number38

      Then don’t get JUMP and buy a new phone. They didn’t say anything about normal upgrades going away.

      • D. Maki

        Why does that sound condescending? I know that I can upgrade normally. I was asking about Jump only. Otherwise I would have asked about that.

        • randomnerd_number38

          It definitely wasn’t intended that way, sorry if it came across like that. I’m confused about your question then. could you try rephrasing it? What specifically are you asking?

          EDIT: just to be clear, this new JUMP on demand is not just for existing JUMP customers. You don’t have to be signed up for JUMP now to get this deal. You can go in on the 28th and sign up for it.

        • Walter Lonsdale

          Sounded normal to me….

  • steven berson

    So you can upgrade 3 times a year no 10$ fee or taxes. ($8 for insurance) If there isn’t any catch its a legit deal. Trying to figure out how they plan to profit from this..

    • Cam Bunton

      They’re only lending you the phone, you’re paying to borrow it. In that way, they can’t really lose. The phone is technically their property the whole time you use it.

    • randomnerd_number38

      Probably by reselling the phones you trade in.

      • archerian

        and securitizing the lease/EIP payments and jettisoning them. I read in their annual report that around 45% of the EIP loans were sub-prime, so a nice target for securitizing and pooling the risk. All carriers are doing/planning this.

        • randomnerd_number38

          That’s interesting. So they’re basically creating a housing market bubble but with phones? Good times lol

  • hecansing@yahoo.com

    What happens if a phone on JUMP on demand gets lost or stolen and has no insurance? Who pays the balance and can one just walk into the store and ask for another?

    • Cam Bunton

      If you don’t return the phone in good working order, you pay the full retail price for the phone minus your monthly payments.

      • hecansing@yahoo.com

        Thanks for the fast reply. So in that case, I would then (as a 0 down customer) pay off that balance & start a new mo payment lease on a new device of my choice?

        • Cam Bunton

          Essentially. Yes. I’ve updated the post with the full fine print which states that customers are responsible for repairs/insurance etc.

        • hecansing@yahoo.com

          Thank you, I can’t wait to see how our customers react to this news. I can see it going over VERY well with our usual group of upgraders lol

  • alex

    Pay 50% of your device cost to be eligible for upgrades.

    • Ascertion

      What’s more, because there’s no EIP, you won’t have the same obligation to pay at least 50% of the phone’s retail price

      This seems to say the complete opposite….

  • Mike

    The problem is paying the 50% of the device cost to be eligible for an upgrade. That’s money out of pocket if you want to upgrade three times per year. As it stands, this doesn’t look like a good deal

    • Cam Bunton

      You’re confusing the current JUMP! with JUMP! on Demand.

      • Mike

        I don’t think so. The fine print on the JUMP! on Demand page states “Pay 50% of your device cost to be eligible for upgrades”

        Edit: Unless that fine print is a catch-all for their upgrade programs, then I stand corrected and it should be clarified that the requirement isn’t present for the on Demand version of Jump!

        • Cam Bunton

          Nope. It says: “JUMP!: Qualifying service plan with financed device and trade-in of an eligible device in good working order required. Pay 50% of your device cost to be eligible for upgrades. Offer may not be available in all locations. Device pricing may vary based on approved credit. NY residents must use JUMP benefits prior to completing 2 insurance claims in 12 mos”

        • Mike

          Yeah, it looks to be a catch-all fine print. That’s good news as I am on the original jump plan that doesn’t have the 50% requirement. Might look into on Demand now

        • Cam Bunton

          I’ve included all the JUMP! on Demand specific terms in the post now. If you don’t see it, you can refresh the page, it should be there.

        • alex

          is it 50% of $15×18 months? 50% of that equals to $135. does not make sense

        • Cam Bunton

          The JUMP on Demand terms are above it.

      • Raymond Baez

        I never had to pay 50% to use jump before.

        • Mike

          Probably because you’re grandfathered into the original Jump! like myself. I think it was changed a month or so after the original Jump! launched to include the 50% caveat

        • Raymond Baez

          Thanks Guys. Good to know cuz 50% is BS… love upgrading when i still have a balance of 500 dollars

        • Cam Bunton

          The first JUMP! you didn’t, you just have to wait 6 months. With the second JUMP (launched last year) you could upgrade when you liked as long as you paid at least 50% of the balance.

  • Fabian Cortez

    Leasing phones now, huh?

    • Ascertion

      Well, T-Mobile taking ideas from Sprint? Say it isn’t so!

    • JLV90

      Yup, Sprint did it first but Sprint doesn’t offer 3 upgrades per year. I think they offer one but only if you are on their $80 unlimited plan and not their $60 unlimited plan.

      • Fabian Cortez

        I’m not a fan of leasing phones.

        But if I had to lease, oh the horror, this would be a better plan due to the three yearly upgrades.

        It looks like T-Mobile is playing Sprint’s game of trying to attract new subs., except by trying to undercut them. If Sprint responds, it’ll eat into their revenue for sure.

        • Walter Lonsdale

          The problen with Sprint is coverage though

  • NardVa

    Smart move by T-Mobile, but per the fine print Jump on Demand is only for select phones. I’m guessing new phones just released will not be included. If you want to upgrade to a newly released phone, you can still use regular Jump which is still available.

  • taron19119

    I think they are going to be given out used phones

    • Epic_Ninja420

      You think wrong.

  • sosarozay300

    so if i dont have jump now, and i walk into a tmobile store when the new iphone comes out, can i hand them my galaxy s6 i got in april and switch to the new iphone without paying anything? is this “jump” free unlike the current $10 one?

    • Cam Bunton

      No. You’re subject to the terms of your EIP.

  • justanormalguy13

    So what happens if you want to cancel service? Do you still have to pay off the full cost?

    • CG

      According to the website it says that if you cancel service remaining payments are due and you must return the working device.

      • justanormalguy13

        That doesn’t sound too bad.

  • ImHomeNow

    So I could pay off my iPhone 6. Sell it for 500 online then go to Walmart and buy a bottom of the line phone and bring it to T-Mobile and get a new 6 plus for free? It said trade in your “qualified device”. I wonder if that means devices only purchased directly from T-Mobile?

    • Cam Bunton

      Trade-ins are completely separate from JUMP! on Demand. You can sell your iPhone 6 for $500 online, make sure the EIP is paid off, then go and sign up for an iPhone 6 Plus for free without needing to buy a crappy phone from WalMart.

      With JUMP! on Demand, you don’t own your new phone. You’re leasing it.

      • ImHomeNow

        I’m confused. With on demand I don’t have to bring them ANY phone to get started as long as all my EIP is paid?

        • Cam Bunton

          Are you an existing JUMP customer, or not? If you are, you can just use your next JUMP upgrade to switch to On Demand.

          If not, you’re subject to your EIP terms only. Pay that off, and you’re free to sign up to JUMP! on Demand without needing to trade in.

        • sosarozay300

          what if i have a EIP device and i want to give it in to sign up for jump on demand? do i have to pay that off before i can sign up? can i give them my current EIP device?

        • Cam Bunton

          Still subject to your current EIP. You could trade it in, but you’d need to make sure your EIP balance is paid as well.

        • mooch

          So lets say I have a Note 4 which has an estimated trade-in value of $318. I still owe $500. So if I trade it in, would I then only be responsible for $182?

      • sally

        If I wanna keep my old jump I can ? I don’t know the new one … I like my jump cause it has insurance with it

        • sally

          Oops I mean I don’t want the new one

  • Cheesy2121

    Great for me as I was eligible to jump July 2nd again in the grandfathered jump plan! But looks like the only phone that will be eligible at first for this is the iPhone 6?

    • Cam Bunton

      Trying to get clarity on available devices.

      • hack400

        JL tweeted that it will be “All our newest devices” in response to the same question about devices…

    • elite2291

      its iphone 6, plus, s6, s6 edge n g4

  • tranceformer978

    I think I’ll be sticking with the my Jump (original) plan. I’m not clumsy, but I like having insurance (even if there is a deductible). Jump on Demand doesn’t include insurance.

    Also, I don’t know which devices this is eligible for. If it includes the latest flagships, I’d be more interested.

    • elite2291

      you can get insurance for $8 and i posted the phones below

      • Cam Bunton

        link, please?!

        • elite2291

          they will post it later on right now the spotlight is on iphone 6

        • Visvism

          Asurion Insurance has always been available via T-Mobile for $8 per month if you didn’t prefer the $10 a month JUMP! program.

      • tranceformer978

        Okay, so I could be saving $2/month and be getting an additional “upgrade” per year. If the phone prices are the same as Jump, I’m trying to find a downside to this….

        • cheesy2121

          You also don’t have to pay the hefty sales tax when you upgrade

        • tranceformer978

          New Hampshire, Live Free or Die.

        • elite2291

          depends on credit class

  • GreatNews

    So on June 28 only the iPhone 6 will be a option?

    • elite2291

      the phones are listed below

      • GreatNews

        Where below cuz I didn’t see anything anywhere

  • Raymond Baez

    I have a some questions before i consider this new jump on demand. Do we have to complete the 18 month lease or can we just dump it after a couple of months? And if you have to complete the 18 month lease does it resets every time you get a new phone?

    • Visvism

      You don’t have to complete the 18 months if it says right there that you can upgrade up to three times a year. The 18 month statement is the maximum amount of time you’re able to lease the device before you either purchase it outright, trade it in for another leased device, or ending your JUMP! on demand program.

      • Raymond Baez

        So i can lease an iphone 6 for 2 months and if i decide leasing osnt for me i just give it back to Tmobile and it o ly costed me 30 dollars?

        • Visvism

          No I was meaning you don’t need to complete the 18 months on a specific device. You are free to change phones during that period. You are not eligible to cancel the program until the entire lease is carried out or you will be responsible for the remaining lease payments that you agreed to. That make sense?

        • Raymond Baez

          If thats the case… the original jump still the best deal…

        • GersonT1000

          If after 2 months you decide that leasing isn’t for you, you would pay the remaining 16 monthly lease payments together (16*15=$240) and then have two options: return the phone or exercise the buy option. With the first, give them the phone back. With the second, you pay the purchase option amount ($164 for the iPhone 6 offer, in addition to the remaining lease payments) which is basically the difference of everything you paid to them in total for that phone and their MSRP.

  • Eric Stengrevics

    I feel like I’m missing something…this sounds way too good to be true. What are the downsides??

    • J.P. Avila

      You never own the phone. It’s like leasing a car, you pay for it while you have it but when you turn it in you don’t have anything to show for it. On the flip side, Tmobile can then resell the device to someone willing to pay for a “refurbished” phone.

    • Cam Bunton

      The only real downside is that you don’t own the phone. And if you break it, you’re responsible for the cost.

      • Eric Stengrevics

        But why exactly would I care about owning the phone if I have to turn it in to upgrade anyway with my old JUMP plan?

        • hack400

          Perhaps sometimes the EIP payoff is less than the current market value for the used phone? iPhone 6 is holding value very well (higher than any other iPhone) as an example…

    • Kevin

      I’m with you. I want to be excited about this, but it looks like the 15$ a month is only a promotion for the iPhone 6. I pay about 30 a month now for my Note 4. It looks like it would probably be close to that with the Jump Upgrade, and it would be a lease. Although I guess if I wanted to trade in every 6 months or so, it might be worth it.

      • GersonT1000

        If you were to get the Note 4 with the JumpOD plan and keep it for 18 months, you would pay 18*29.16=524.88. There is a remaining $174.96 to match the sale price of $699.84. You can pay that difference and keep the phone as if it was a regular EIP, or turn it in and get a new one (although you can do that at any time if you had the JumpOD).
        If you were on EIP and paid off your phone in 18 months ($700), plus ~$60 taxes which are not charged with JumpOD, and sell your phone for around 300, you would have spent about $460 over the 18 months to own that phone. For just the $64 additional with the JumpOD, you would get the option to upgrade at any time, which comes out to paying about $3.50/month to have an upgrade anytime option.

    • I feel the same, anyone that likes the latest and greatest smartphone should jump on this ASAP, right? I paid like $150 upfront for my Nexus 6 and now I’m making $25 payments for the next 2 years, but with this program I’d be paying $15 a month and I’d be able to upgrade to the latest and greatest phone in another 4 months, with no billing change. Right? Are you hearing it the same way I am?

      • hack400

        $15/month is a special promo they are running on the iPhone. No $/month has been released for other phones yet…

        • Ahhh interesting. Hopefully they keep it close to that, makes it more attractive.

        • GersonT1000

          If you paid 150 plus 24 payments of 25, that comes out to a price of $750. As a good comparison, the iPhone 6 Plus is the same price of $750 and the monthly payment with JumpOD will be $31.24, so you can expect something like that for the Nexus 6.

  • alex

    Pay 50% of your device cost to be eligible for upgrades.

    it is confusing. it is a leasing program @ $15 per month. can someone explain the 50% device cost to me?

    • Epic_Ninja420

      Applies if you are on a EIP plan currently. New customers, add a lines, and people who have fully paid off phones would not be subject to this.

  • elite2291

    If you are an existing jump 2 customer and have the s6 and want to get the iphone 6 but still owe $500 how will jump on demand work?

    • Cam Bunton

      You’re subject to your current JUMP! terms. So, you’d need to make sure you’ve paid 50% of your EIP, and you’d need to trade in your S6.

  • elite2291

    What happens if you are on jump on demand with the iphone 6 and decided to purchase the insurance for it, you lose your phone but wanted the plus how would that work?

    • randomnerd_number38

      1) pay the deductible to replace your 6 through insurance($170)
      2) trade the replaced phone in for an iPhone 6+ with jump on demand

  • I’m normally not into leasing my phones, I like to own them…but this seems really cool for geeks like myself that would love to have the latest phone out there. I’m just picturing myself trying out a new Windows phone for 4 months, then trading it in for free for the latest Galaxy Note, then trade that in, in another 4 months for the latest Nexus device. Is that how it would go? No additional costs or anything? This just seems really flippin’ cool.

    • Delusion_FTL

      Well you have to trade in a device to start and not all phones at all price points will be available, or at least at the 15 dollar a month rate.

      As always companies only release things that improve their bottom line, which means that buying the phone you want outright and then selling it months later, buying a new one outright, selling that later will still probably be a better deal in the end, although more work/effort.

      • Right, I almost never sell my phone though, I always keep it around as a backup in case I drop mine or lose it…so for me this would be advantageous.

  • Mike Palomba

    Is there a livestream? I wanted to watch it.

    • Kevin

      No. Looks like it will just be random announcements today on John’s Twitter.

    • Cam Bunton

      No, because it’s not Uncarrier 10, it doesn’t get a big announcement.

  • Kevin

    On a side note, this will greatly devalue trade-in offers wouldn’t it? If you were one of the people holding onto your phone for 2 years because you want to own it and trade it in. You’d think the values of your trade-in would be greatly reduced now that T-Mobile will have a huge amount of old/used devices coming in constantly.

  • elite2291

    People have to understand that credit still applies, the nothing upfront (no taxes) for jump on demand is only for well qualified customers

    • JLV90

      And T-mobile considers you a well qualified customer after 12 months of on time payments as of January this year.

      • BOlieve in AJ’s EMMAlution

        Welp, looks like I wouldn’t be considered “Well Qualified” since I’m always paying my bill on payday (which is always about a week after my due date).

        • Nate

          I believe that you are allowed to change up your due date every once in a while. I had this problem for a while and got it switched to a different date that more easily matched up to pay days.

  • mooch

    So if I’m not a current JUMP customer and still owe $500 on my Note 4, am I shit outta luck?

  • alex

    here is a PDF sheet that explains everything

    http://newsroom.t-mobile.com/doc_download.cfm?doc_id=156

  • vinnyjr

    John Legere is great, I follow him on Periscope whenever I can.

  • Tmus2

    So if your on Jump 1 grandfathered you have to wait until your 6 months eligible upgrade date in order to switch to jump on demand?

    • elite2291

      exactly just like on jump 2 you would have to pay 50% of your phone in order to do jump on demand

    • Raymond Baez

      If you are on JUMP1 you already waited the 6month period when the plan first came out . After that no more waiting and 2 upgrades per year

    • kbiel

      Why would you want to? Jump v1 sounds far better than v3. I think I’ll stick with v1 thanks.

  • Adam

    This announcement follows the simple rule: Lease depreciating asset, but purchase appreciating assets. Texters (fone spelling) could also use the if it starts with an F (flies, floats, …) rent it rule. Now, if only I could find an appreciating phone to purchase.

    • Fabian Cortez

      You have a good point.

  • alex

    Here are jump of demand prices: iPhone 6 (16GB)
    $15.00**(requires trade in) otherwise 27.08, Galaxy S 6 (32GB) $28.33, Galaxy S 6 edge (32GB) $32.49, G4 $24.99, Note 4 $29.16

    • Visvism

      Pass. It sounded great at $15 but at the standard prices with an additional $8 for insurance it just doesn’t seem worth it to lease the device. I don’t need a new phone three times a year as the iPhone release cycle is once a year and other than a few band/camera/speed upgrades it’s the same ole same ole.

      Thanks for posting the pricing.

      • hack400

        Insurance is $8/month anyway, so not sure why it is any different. Just trying to understand the details…

        • Visvism

          There really is no difference. This new program is simply a lease vs the older programs being finance to own programs (with the ability to swap out after 50% or 6 months). At the end of the day you’re still paying roughly the same amount. The only difference here is that now you can upgrade more often if you’re into changing devices three times a year.

        • hack400

          Ok, makes sense. I am on Jump 1.0, so it sounds like keeping that is the best option for me. Thanks…

        • Visvism

          I probably would if I were you. There’s a reason they don’t offer the original plan anymore and don’t plan to.

        • justanormalguy13

          Other difference is jump includes lookout security built in, where you’d have to pay another $4 if you wanted it on jump on demand. If I upgraded 3 times a year, then this would be great, but two times a year on jump 1 is good for me. Also, if other phones were discounted like the iPhone was, it’d be a great deal. I think for now I’d stick with jump 1, if I was on jump 2 if switch in a hurry.

        • hack400

          I just asked T-Mobile on Twitter about Lookout as well, because they haven’t said anything about that. The more I see, the more I think Jump 1.0 is still a far better option…twice a year is plenty…

        • Tmus21

          Average sales tax $60 per phone x2 a year = $120, going to the new jump you’ll save that!

        • Raymond Baez

          But you will always have a 18 month lease obligation

        • Walter Lonsdale

          Most people are ready to trade in at that point I think.

        • alex

          iphone is not really discounted, requires trade in

      • Raymond Baez

        Exactly my feeling…. if the lease payments arent significantsignificantly reduced compared to Standard Jump then The original Jp is probably the best upgrade plan

        • Tmus2

          With the original JP plan you would have to pay the $10 a month fee even if you didn’t want insurance, you would have to pay the hefty sales tax, and you would only be able to upgrade every 6 months not anytime (3x a year)

          Only upside of original jump plan is you would own the phone eventually

        • Raymond Baez

          You want the insurance, paying out of pocket isnt a good deal. I rather pay 50-65 in taxes than have a 18 month lease obligation.

      • alex

        not a bad deal still. lets say u get a new note 4 three times per year.

        should cost you a total $120 x 3, that is $360 a year for 3 new phones per year. am i getting this right?

        • elite2291

          where do you get $120 from?

        • alex

          note 4 monthly payment of $30 x 4 months, total $120

        • J Cav the Great

          Why would you get the same phone. 3 times per year? Just asking.

      • THATONEGUY

        Currently you pay monthly on your device and jump so lets say you have a iphone 6 and your paying $27 with jump so its $37 per month. With the new jump program you get the device for $15 per month and with insurance (most likely you will be required to have insurance just like the current jump) $8 so the total now is $23 per month, so as long as you upgrade once a year you will save $14 a month thats $168 in savings every year

        • elite2291

          for the iphone 6 ($15) and plus($19) there is a promo going on requiring a trade-in, the rest of the phones are regular monthly prices like note 4 $29.16

        • Visvism

          Like @elite2291:disqus mentioned this is just a special promotion for those two device models only. The rest of the phones listed are regular price. Also the insurance is not required this time around so you can walk away simply paying $15 but for many like myself we already have iPhone 6’s so there’s no need to enter a lease for a device I already own. Especially seeing that they want me to trade in an eligible smartphone in order to even qualify for the $15 promotion.

    • Ryan Vega

      um no thanks.

    • elite2291

      these are the prices for 18 months so you can either switch your phone at any time during the 18 month period or pay the remaining balance at the end

  • name

    i wonder if this will help push the cost of subsidized phones down as well

  • NYHeel

    The question is what happens if you leave T-Mobile within 18 months. You would have to turn in the phone but then would they still make you pay the full remaining number of payments on the lease? If so, that’s a bad deal.

    The phone itself is worth most of the remaining balance but you can’t sell it because you need to turn it in. I wonder what you’d owe in that case.

    • tranceformer978

      This is T-Mobile’s way to retain subscribers. At the end of 18 months, you have to either jump to new phone and start over again or pay off the device, $162.48 iPhone 6 for example.

    • Justin Smith

      It’s very similar to Sprint’s plan for leasing iPhones. So no you would just turn in the phone. If any damage occurred that is bad enough they may make you pay for repairs.

  • UMA_Fan

    When uncarrier started it was all about simplicity. With this move they’ve opened a can of worms to be a lot more complicated again.

    There shouldn’t be more than one way to buy the same device.

    • Visvism

      I actually agree with you that T-Mobile is beginning to go down the slope of too many choices whether it be plans or devices. The idea of Simple Choice was great with one simple upgrade program, JUMP!

    • archerian

      no one really needs a phone change every few months. Most probably the people who sign up for these plans are the ones who really shouldn’t be leasing devices at $30 or so a month. Having nearly half of device receivables as sub-prime is testament to this.

      • Walter Lonsdale

        Yeah, once a year is fine

  • VG

    Question: since the phone is being leased, if and when will T-Mobile unlock it for you if you want to use a different carrier SIM card?

    • tranceformer978

      Very unlikely they’ll unlock it since you never own the phone.

    • elite2291

      you would have to pay the whole phone off

    • randomnerd_number38

      If we’e lucky they’ll keep their current policy of unlocking it if you’re traveling internationally and have made at least 2 payments.

  • -*Wonders will there be an amped Score!*- lol. This is nice though.

  • skywalkr2

    So do we know the monthly payments required? I assume they have gone up 25%.

    • Visvism

      Look a little further down at the post from alex. The prices are listed.

    • tranceformer978

      It’s the same as now. If you do stick with the same phone for 18 months, you can end your lease and turn the phone in or pay the balance (25% of the original price) to keep the phone.
      Edited.

  • elite2291

    if you are a new customer do the jump on demand for note 4 which is $29 for 18 months, and you wanted to pay off the whole phone after 6 months can you do it? After that if you wanted a plus would you have to trade in your note 4?

  • Is T-mobile a mobile carrier or a phone retailer?

    • Visvism

      Both.

    • randomnerd_number38

      Is this a pointed question? Are you suggesting that phone carriers shouldn’t sell phones at all?

      • It is a distortion particularly distorted in America.

  • besweeet

    “$15/mo for 18-mo lease via monthly bill credits over 18 mos.”

    How is this supposed to work?

    • elite2291

      you need to do a trade-in for this but it’s $15 x 18 months = $270 and then you get $12 bill credit for 18 months = $216 in total = $486 at the end you can either switch to a new phone or pay off the remaining and keep your iphone which would be $164

      • besweeet

        If I understand you correctly (which I don’t), I only have to pay the $15/mo. for 18 months. T-Mobile pays $12/mo. for 18 months, covering a total of $486 out of the $649.92 cost of an iPhone 6. If I wanted to keep it, I’d just pay $163.92. So in total, to fully purchase the iPhone 6, you’re saying it would be $433.92, which is a large $216 discount off of a full-price device…

        Something’s not right somewhere.

        • archerian

          So you have to remain a T-Mobile customer for 36 months?

        • donnybee

          No, just the 18.

          Actually, it’s their phone. I should just be able to turn it in and bounce if I want. I think it does help to prevent other carriers from luring you in with a phone trade in and payoff offer though. Which is good for T-Mo.

        • Walter Lonsdale

          Nope. You can pay off the phone anytime you want.

        • elite2291

          a trade in is required if the trade in is more than $216 you will get an in store credit if it is less than $216 then the difference will be in your down payment

        • besweeet

          Oh, I see now. I didn’t think the phone you’d have to trade in would have any value put towards the new device.

        • donnybee

          So, that would mean that at the end of the 18 months when you trade it in, assuming you wait that long, you would have to make up the difference of $52, right? That’s the difference between the cost of the iPhone and the $216 trade in requirement.

          Also, if I trade in early, does the prorated amount of the unused $216 carry over to the new device, also requiring an upfront payment to cover the difference?

          Is this super complicated? Or am I just extremely confused now?

        • elite2291

          if you decide to trade in early they cancel the $12 credit on the iphone, and you would start over with the device that you want. If you keep the iphone for 18 months the remaining balance due will be $164

  • pseudoswede

    I see this as a nice way to test drive three phones in a short amount of time without getting the stink-eye for doing too many 14-day returns; then deciding which phone to choose, then paying it off immediately.

    • Visvism

      I think this is a way to get consumers to keep purchasing newer smartphones as the plateau for smartphones appears to be in the distance. Newer devices seem to offer less and less in way of innovation IMHO. Hell even Google and Apple have both shifted their focus to performance and stability rather than new additions with upcoming software updates while HTC, Motorola, LG, Apple, etc are all refining popular designs while Samsung may be the only one trying to slightly push the envelope with different ideas like the S6 Edge.

      I just really am finding it hard to see why I would need a new device 3 times a year. But that’s just me.

  • elite2291

    Would you be able to pay off the phone faster on jump on demand if you wanted to keep the phone?

    • Nate

      I am wondering too. I typically pay off my EIP a year early as of right now.

  • jay

    What about those that brought their own device? no previous JUMP but want the latest but dont want to trade in current device? can you trade in a different phone?

    • Visvism

      Good question. It says “eligible smartphone” so I’m sure there are some strict guidelines.

    • elite2291

      it would be almost like a new customer, you would sign up for jump on demand and choose the phone that you want to lease. Now if you wanted to do the iphone 6 promo then you would trade in any device and if it’s less than $216 the difference would be in your down payment

    • Walter Lonsdale

      I doubt it.

  • Travis Tabbal

    Hmmm… So for someone like me with the original JUMP….

    Pros:
    3x a year upgrades, nice, one more than I have now
    No out of pocket (sales tax etc.)

    $2 less per month (I would use insurance, $10 less if you don’t)
    Similar payments to the current EIP/JUMP plans

    Cons:

    You never own the device, unless you pay it off
    No option to complete EIP payments over time. 18 month max lease. Then you upgrade or pay off in one lump sum.

    Limited selection of devices

    I don’t know… That’s a tricky one. I don’t see myself changing carriers anytime soon, so the repeating 18 month lease isn’t a big deal. And after 18 months, most of the device cost is paid anyway. The zero out of pocket for upgrades would be nice. The catch for me is the limited selection. Right now, I can EIP any device I like, so long as TMobile sells it. It’s not that the devices on the list are bad, they are quite good. However, I’m really digging on my Nexus 6 right now. If I switched to the new program, I couldn’t come back to the Nexus unless I did a full price purchase or normal non-JUMP EIP. If they get a little more inclusive with device selection, it could be nice for me as I do like swapping devices. Apple’s mobile stuff just isn’t my preference, and Samsung makes good devices, but I’d like the option to try Sony, Motorola, etc…

    • Walter Lonsdale

      Me too. Now that it supposedly has wifi calling…

      • Nate

        Wifi Calling seems to work pretty well on mine.

    • Nate

      Yeah, I think we are thinking the same. I dont have any jump right now though but am making use of the EIP. Last year I got the Wife an S5 when it came out. Had it paid off by end of year. That was awesome enough that I then picked up the nexus 6 and plan to have it paid off by end of year. With this new jump, I could pick up whatever device is awesome from the list, try it out for a while and if I am not happy, trade it in for another one. I am usually into owning devices so once I found one I liked, I would probably just ride with the lease till end and then just buy it outright for the remaining balance left. But having this option to trade in up to 3 times a year would be pretty nice till I found a keeper. I suspect that the phone selections will increase over time. I don’t see a big downside really.

  • insanebeaver

    Rollover Hotspot!!! Please!!!

  • Joe

    This is so stupid. The whole point of simple choice was to be simple now it’s just becoming really complex. Please T-mobile don’t go down the drain.

    • Walter Lonsdale

      How is this complex? It’s a leasing program. You can trade in 3x a year with zero put of pocket.

      • pseudoswede

        Exactly. You now have four choices on what phone you use on TMO: purchased outright/BYOD, EIP, EIP with Jump, or leased with JoD.

  • Kind of funny. The purpose of splitting the cost of the phone and the cost of the plan was to put the consumer back in control and let them actually own their devices.

    With this, yes, you have the costs split, but you don’t own your device and there’s no end in sight of that phone expense. Other than giving you a bill that shows the plan expense and phone expense, isn’t this somewhat similar to the Big Two but without the contracts? You no longer own your phone and it’s a permanent increase in your bill.

    • Visvism

      Couldn’t have said it better myself. The longer this uncarrier branding goes on the more it shows me it’s just more of the same. I fell for it and now I’m beginning to rethink my choices.

      • OP

        What you are ignoring here is the fact that, this is more directed to the folks that always want to catch up and own the latest phone when they are out or buy 2 or 3 phones in a year just because. With this addition, you still have your EIP’s and bring your own phone plans to choose from. Remember all these are about phone services and not network service.

      • DKBNYC

        No it’s not similar to the other TWO. Walk into a T-Mobile store and buy the phone outright. Your bill is now decreased by what would have gone to phone payments. Walk into the other TWO and do the same. No decrease in your monthly bill.

        • Spanky

          I suppose by “the other TWO”, you’re referring to AT&T and Verizon? If so, I’d advise checking your facts. Both carriers offer BYOD and decreased monthly billing if you bring your own phone or buy one outright.

    • AngryBadger

      but you can still opt to pay off the device and keep it… then it’s no more increase on your bill.

      • Yes and no. It’s at the end of 18 months where they *require* you to surrender it (and get a new one) or purchase it. If you simply pay it off beforehand, there’s really no reason to be on Jump in the first place. If you’re following it as designed though, you’re looking at a permanent bill hike.

        At least with Jump 1.0, there’s the option for me to pay my device at any time, have the reduced bill, remain on Jump, and upgrade when I finally get bored. And if it accidentally breaks, it’s still okay. There’s no requirement to surrender or purchase (except softly at 24 mo. where it *will* be paid off due to my payments).

        • AngryBadger

          since this doesn’t let you pay off early then I see your point.

          I’m on jump 1.0 so I just use that as my insurance and usually pay phone off early; or pay min to test a phone for 6 months and trade out. I trade out max 2x a year… so I wouldn’t really use this new version of jump.

          I prefer jump 1.0, how about yourself (1.0, 2.0, amped)?

        • Same here (1.0) and same strategy!

          I found it really beneficial for the Note Edge, for example. If I traded it in at 6 months because I didn’t like it, it would have been just 25% of the device rather than Jump 2.0’s 50% requirement. Since I really like this phone though, unless the Note 5 Edge is significantly better, I’ll be keeping it for a while. Judging how they implemented the S6 Edge, I’m thinking the Note 5 Edge will be sadly similar (not a true edge screen).

          With my wife’s phone, we just buy and sell on Swappa. That’s also been pretty cost-effective.

        • Epic_Ninja420

          There will not be a Note 5 edge.

        • I guess that solves that potential dilemma then. Thanks for letting me know.

        • Nate

          You are allowed to pay off early. Say 12 months in, you decide you want to just keep this phone, you are allowed to walk in and pay off remaining balance of device. Or at least according to the Tmo rep replying to questions on John Legere’s twitter page.

        • Nate

          I think it will be nice. I am not on any jump programs right now. I make use of the no cost Financing/EIP plan. I dont have enough funds available to just buy a flagship phone outright initially but usually at some point during the EIP I am able to fully pay off the remaining balance. Got the Wife a Galaxy S5 last year when it launched, had it paid off in November. I then picked up a Nexus 6 and will probably have it paid off sometime this fall.

          For me, this would allow me the ability to still get a flagship but the option to turn it in for a different one if after a few months it ends up being a device that I don’t like or is not really living up to its hype. Once I find a keeper device, I can then work on getting it paid off and end the lease and my Bill is back to being a great price again.

        • It can be nice for some people. There’s some ambiguity that concerns me and some hefty penalties for people who don’t purchase insurance.

          On the ambiguity side, there is a penalty for breaking the lease early where you pay the remainder of the lease and surrender your device. If you would like to own it and pay it early, is there a fee associated with that? I’m thinking there *shouldn’t* be, but that’s something people should get clarified.

          Another drawback is that you owe a lump sum of the device balance plus taxes if you ride out the 18 mos. and decide to own. That can be a little harder to pay as opposed to the old tax up front, optional down payment, and balance spread over 24 mos.

          As far as penalties go, if you break your device, the fees associated can easily outweigh the cost of the device. Let’s say you dropped your phone outside, the screen cracked and it landed in a puddle. If it also fails to turn on, that’s $750 in fees (fails all 3 criteria). Obviously, the better option is to opt to purchase the device, but now you’re buying a useless device for a fair bit of money.

          Having said all of that, what is the *likelihood* of failing all three criteria? Realistically, not very high, especially if you invest in phone and screen protectors. If you also *do* opt for the insurance, then this is even less of a concern.

          Obviously the 2nd concern (lump sum payment at 18 mos. if you make it that far) is the most likely of the three, but even though the 1st and 3rd are not nearly as likely, they’re still worth looking into (1st) and thinking about (3rd).

        • Nate

          Yes, insurance would make sense. I probably should have it now but historically I have had a pretty decent record in regards to damage and whatnot. It can still happen at any time, that is for sure. I think the last phone I damaged was the old AT&T HTC Tilt 2(Touch Pro 2 was Tmo version). LOL!

          I am trying to get them to clarify some of that on twitter right now. I believe that while you are on lease and paying, you are also paying part of the ending lump sum tax so at the end, you are only paying tax on the remainder of the balance left on the phone if you were to buy outright.

          Just to be clear, not meaning to be argumentative or anything like that. :) Just talking and discussing.

    • NardVa

      T-Mobile is looking to keep people hooked with always having the latest and greatest phone. If you don’t need the newest phone, you can pay off your phone and reduce your bill in the process.

    • Walter Lonsdale

      You can buy the phone after 18 months if you want. Or you can just simply buy a phone outright.

    • Nate

      Say 12 months in, you decide you want to own this phone, you can right then pay off the remaining balance of the device and end the lease. https://twitter.com/_NateDogg_/status/614109903343345664

  • NardVa

    On Demand Jump is the same as current Jump. Both plans will require the same monthly EIP payment, but with Ondemand Jump, you don’t have to pay the monthly $10 monthly fee which includes insurance. The On Demand Jump gives you the option to add insurance for $8 a month. You come out cheaper monthly with On Demand Jump. (Even cheaper with no insurance)

    • hack400

      Current jump ($10/month) includes insurance and Lookout (sure, some might not want that, so do). On Demand Jump that cost goes up to $12/month…

      • NardVa

        Right. With On Demand it would be $8 for the insurance and $4 for the security. There are a few options in the Play Store which give you free security on your phone. If the the free security from the Play Store is comparable to the T-Mobile option, you can save money.

        • hack400

          Indeed, many options. Was just clarifying the difference. You could probably get insurance cheaper elsewhere as well :)

  • GreatNews

    Quick Question: How could I know if I am on the Jump 1.0 or 2.0? I recently upgraded my phone and upon checking I see that I am eligible to Jump again right now and I don’t have yet my new phone for a month even, does this mean that I am currently on Jump 1.0?

    • Raymond Baez

      Yes

      • GreatNews

        Good to know, so I’ll hold on to it as long as possible!

  • AT&T $45 GoPhone Plan

    So any of you who keep complaining of T-Mobile’s network, sign up for the $45 AT&T GoPhone plan with 1.5GB of high-speed data and then throttled to .5mbps (advertised as 128 kbps but it is actually throttled to .5 mbps).

    You can still stream standard video on YouTube, Netflix, and any music service out there without worrying about Music Freedom. Also, AT&T has a superior network (in most areas and markets) compared to T-Mobile.

    If you sign up for auto pay, you get a $5’discount or you can buy refill cards on CallingMart and get up to 5% off (with no sales tax and CallingMart usually has promos where you can get an additional 10% off AT&T refill cards on top of their usual discounts).

    Obviously, we have T-Mobile to thank for AT&T offering better options to consumers but this deal is hard to beat.

    And yes, I also use T-Mobile services. This is just another option.

    • Frankwhitess

      Soooooooooo…………… How long have you been working with AT&T ?? How are there benefit packets?? Do you paid extra for holidays ??

  • Kevin

    One way everyone can save on insurance is to get a Wells Fargo credit card and pay your bill with it. It provides $600 coverage for up to 4 lines with $25 deductible for free. A lot better than paying $8/month plus $175 deductible for iPhone.

    I know iPhone cost more than $600 but worst case you pay $50 difference for 6 or $150 for plus and you’ll still end up ahead since there is no monthly fee. You’ll also get a new replacement vs. Refurbished. Also if you have the phone (not a theft claim) apple would normally replace it for $300 under their out of warranty replacement service resulting in no out of pocket cost.

  • hanfeedback

    When are the next uncarrier releases coming out?

  • alex

    i will be signing up for G4 @ $25 monthly x 4 months, then note 4 @$30 monthly x 4 months, and S6 @ $29 month x 4 months, total should equal to $307 a year for 3 new phones. no tax, no upfront fees. Sounds like a deal to me.

    all new phones come with manufactures warranty.. just make sure not to crack the screen.

    • donnybee

      Wouldn’t it just be $15/month for each one? Or is that just for the iPhone?

      Is there a list of prices?

      • alex

        Here are jump of demand prices: iPhone 6 (16GB)
        $15.00**(requires trade in) otherwise 27.08, Galaxy S 6 (32GB) $28.33, Galaxy S 6 edge (32GB) $32.49, G4 $24.99, Note 4 $29.16

        • donnybee

          So they have you pay the regular 24 month EIP payment per month, but you do it for 18 months instead and you can pay off the remaining amount at the end to buy the device?

          So they only overcomplicated the iPhone deal.

          Seeing as how I planned on upgrading at least every year (if not more, I’m on Jump 1.0), I would never have REALLY owned my phone anyway. So this is a pretty good deal it seems. The only problem is that if I ever did want to keep the phone it would mean I need to pay the remaining 6 months’ worth of EIP all at once.

        • elite2291

          exactly

    • elite2291

      it would depend on your credit whether you have to give a down payment, its not $0 down for everyone

    • Stephen Chen

      is 18 months lease renewed to another 18 months every time when you upgrade to a new phone?

      • elite2291

        yes

  • T-Dish Anyone?

    I like how they are calling this Jump On Demand…. Dish Network uses this term quite a bit in their marketing terms as well….. hmmmm….

  • Cellphone Chris

    Can you turn in the phone and walk away if you decide to cancel? Current EIP requires you to pay the device off. Since you’re leasing and not owning (hence the reason you don’t pay sales tax), I wonder what the terms are if you choose to disconnect. If this eliminates the psuedo-ETF of having to pay off a financed device to walk away, this move gives customers a great deal more freedom than any other carrier.

    • elite2291

      yes you can return the device, if you cancel and not be charged for the rest of the phone but the phone has to be in good condition if not fees will be applied

      • Cellphone Chris

        No-brainer then. Gives customers the ability to truly have no contract or looming penalties. Adding insurance keeps you 100% covered.

        • donnybee

          Actually, I was wondering the same thing. It would make sense that way. BUT, I just checked the T-Mo site and here’s what it said:

          “$0 at signing + $X/mo. for 18-mos. O.A.C. If you cancel wireless service, remaining payments become due & you must return working device.”

        • elite2291

          yes you’re right if you cancel you either return the device and pay off the remaining lease payments or purchase the device by paying the remaining lease balance and the remainder of the phone

        • Cellphone Chris

          OK well that’s totally different. It effectively reduces the commitment by 6 months, allows more frequent upgrades than Jump 1.0, and reduces the cost by $2/month assuming you keep insurance.

        • donnybee

          It also eliminates the annoying upfront sales tax.

        • Cellphone Chris

          Which I think is T-Mobile correcting an unfair practice. Under the previous Jump policy, you’d pay sales tax on full retail each time, but they would never credit back sales tax on the trade-in value when upgrading.

          Example: You use EIP at $600 x 6% tax = $36. Let’s say your trade value after a year is $300 and you Jump to another $600 phone. The net transaction is $300 and you should have only paid $18 in sales tax, the difference between the two. I’d be surprised if there wasn’t some kind of litigation pending that prompted this change.

    • ten

      Depending on your lease term, you’d still have to pay the remaining payments AND return the device in working condition. if your lease term is 18 mo and you cancel after 2 mo, you’d still have to pay the remaining 16 mo and return the device.

  • elite2291

    The question is if you do jump on demand for a note 4, can you pay off the phone earlier if you wanted to keep it or did you have to wait the 18 months?

    • nearvanaman

      Per their fact sheet: ‘JUMP! On Demand uses leasing to give customers unprecedented flexibility to upgrade whenever they want. All of your
      payments count toward the phone cost, and if you want to own your smartphone, simply pay the remaining lease payment and
      device purchase option price anytime”

      • elite2291

        could I do payments towards the phone like $50 here or there if I wanted?

        • J Cav the Great

          Good question..has any one done this??

        • donnybee

          On EIP, yes you can. But nobody has been able to try it on JOD because it’s not out yet….

        • J Cav the Great

          Right of course. I’m talking in general.

        • Jonathan Michael

          Why would you want to? The payments don’t lower as you make payments…the only payment that matters is the first. So it’s possible if you put more down you can get lower payments. But no sense in trying to pay off a leased phone early when your going to give it back.

        • nearvanaman

          I was on old Jump and, yes, you can make additional payments at any time. I paid off my Note 3 that wya.

  • Alex

    So right now I have LG G3 from T-mobile. I only had it for about 8 months. I still have ways to go on paying the rest of the T-mobile loan. So I can’t convert to a Jump On Demand program? I have to get a new phone and deal with paying the phone out.

    • elite2291

      what jump program do you have?

      • Alex

        No Jump program…

        • elite2291

          so yea if you don’t want to be paying off 2 phones I would advise you to finish off your g3

        • Alex

          On tmobile site it says “AMOUNT REMAINING TO BE JUMP! ELIGIBLE: $74.86” Does this apply to the new Jump Program? What does this mean?

        • hack400

          You have $74.86 left until you have paid off 50% of your EIP?

        • Alex

          Correct.

        • hack400

          So, if you pay off $74.86, you can then do a jump, and if you want, go to the new jump program…

        • Alex

          Will I have to pay the rest of the EIP?

        • hack400

          No, they will pay off your EIP just like a regular Jump, and then you can change your Jump. Remember, when you Jump you have 14 days with the new device to decide if you want to have Jump. So, new device, change to Jump 3…

          Cam has posted more details in another article on the TMonews front page…

        • Alex

          Do I have to give them my LG G3 to them? Are there any conditions, damage, etc?

        • hack400

          You have Jump. You have to adhere to the Jump conditions (you should have your terms and conditions in your Jump contract). If you want to keep your LG G3, then you have to pay your EIP in full.

        • Alex

          When I bought the phone at the store, they gave me jump (forced it on me) I didn’t know, I removed it when I called Customer Service. I haven’t been paying for it since I got the phone. Is this is an error in their system?

        • hack400

          Let me get my crystal ball out…
          If you haven’t been paying for it, you don’t have it…

        • elite2291

          how is it an error when you requested it to be taken off?

        • Alex

          You told me I can only get on the new Jump Program if I have Jump…

        • elite2291

          what? I’m confused what are you trying to do and are you currently in the jump program?

        • Alex

          No Jump Program…

          Amount remaining to be JUMP! eligible: $74.86 for one my phones… (that’s what it says on the site)

        • hack400

          Sounds like you have a system error on your account. They will likely catch it when you try and Jump…

        • GersonT1000

          All you’ve said seems to be conflicting information. If your T-Mobile page says “amount remaining to be Jump! eligible”, that means you ARE on the Jump! program.
          If you ARE on Jump!, then pay off the $74.86, trade it in, and get a new phone with Jump! On Demand (make sure to switch from the regular Jump!). You can also pay off the entire remaining balance of the phone, keep it, switch to the Jump! On Demand plan and get another phone.
          If you ARE NOT on Jump!, then you must pay off the entire phone balance and then sign up to Jump! On Demand and get a new phone without having to trade anything in. You can also continue paying your EIP and at the same time the new Jump! On Demand charge until you’ve paid off your phone in full. You can trade in your old phone for trade-in credit, but it’s not necessary and I wouldn’t recommend it because you can get much more by selling it.
          If you want the iPhone 6 offer of $15/month, you HAVE TO trade in a phone no matter what.

    • NardVa

      I believe in order to go from Jump to On Demand, you have to meet current Jump requirements, which is half the phone paid off.

      • Jonny

        No, you have to trade the phone in towards the EIP balance and pay off the remainder. You can’t Jump into the new jump

  • Creativey

    This program is geared towards Android users who want to get a new phone every couple months. You can get a Samsung Galaxy S in April/May, try it for a 2,3 months paying $60-$90. Then you turn it in and get an LG G in June/July, try it for like 3,4 months paying around $100 or less. Finally in September/October, you can turn in your LG for a Samsung Note. You would end up paying around $300 for trying 3 new phones a year. It would make sense to Android users since Android phones depreciate very quickly (after a year, the resell value is less than 50% of the original price)
    For iPhone users though, this program does not have its appeal (unless there is a promotion, which there is right now). New iPhone only comes out once a year and iPhone resell value is really good. You can easily get more than 50% of the original price reselling a one year-old iPhone.

    • elite2291

      very good analysis, the only thing when switching phones every 2 -3 months is if you are not well qualified a down payment is required

      • J Cav the Great

        That’s taken care of after a year. I recall ledger stating that of you are on T-Mobile and make timely payments for one year your credit goes to well qualified regardless if your pre or post paid

    • tranceformer978

      This is still a good deal for iPhone users. You can get the latest iPhone every year without paying $10/ month for Jump.

      • creativey

        If you didn’t mind the hassle reselling your iPhone on craigslist or eBay, you would be better off doing just that instead of jumping in this program. Each to his own though.

    • El_Chuletas

      I see iPhones 5, 5c and 5s on Facebook pages for $150 or less, is that a good price to sell?

      • TheVorlon

        Most likely stolen.

    • Walter Lonsdale

      Depends on the Android phone….

  • steveb944

    This is actually a pretty good deal for those that are careful with their devices.

    You pay ~$10 less for the device, there’s no Jump fee nor are you required to have insurance. Win win.

    You would seemingly pay $25-$30 a month for superphones, $300-$360 a year, with no upfront costs or anything. That’s about how much I pay already on my yearly unlocked device upgrades. If I hadn’t committed to Yota already I would jump on this with the G4.

    • elite2291

      upfront costs will depend on ur credit

      • steveb944

        Same as regular Jump or buying a device through EIP.

    • GersonT1000

      Don’t make the mistake of thinking that all the phones will require just a $15 monthly payment. This is only for the iPhone 6 offer WHICH REQUIRES A TRADE IN. For other phones, the monthly payment is basically FullPrice/24, and no trade-in required to start the program. For the G4, the monthly payment is $24.99. For your next upgrade after being on the program, then you always have to turn in your phone unless you pay the difference between the total paid to date and the full price.

  • J Cav the Great

    People. People. Is really simple. While there is debate of whether it is a good deal or not, it is very simple. T-Mobile wants to maintain subscribers and real new ones in. This is not for everyone. If you want the latest and greatest and do not care about “owning” the phone, then this is for you.

    If you want to OWN your phone, then just stay with what your doing now and pay it off.

    If you want to OWN your phone and want the latest and greatest, then you have 3 opportunities per year to get that new phone, and pay it off.

    There really is no debate, its more of an option for consumers. Thank you.

    • GersonT1000

      EXACTLY!

  • Sorin Lazarescu

    will tmobile send me an unlock code right away on any phone i get thru the new jump program? usually tmobile makes me pay the phone off before sending me an unlock code.

    • weberduder

      why would they give you an unlock code. They still own the phone you’re just leasing it.

      • Sorin Lazarescu

        if they dont give me an unlock code then this is a fail program for me. i need my phone to be unlocked.

        • TheVorlon

          Then you need to BUY it. Not rent it.

        • Sorin Lazarescu

          The reason tmo won’t give you an unlock code is so you won’t switch carriers. I can’t take this phone to a new carrier because I don’t own it. Because of this great plan I don’t plan to change carriers but this plan is useless to me if they don’t give me unlock codes.

        • gmo8492

          I don’t see a reason why they would give you and unlock code unless you’re going to another country for a trip. If anything they can update their unlock app and probably issue a temporary unlock.

        • Sorin Lazarescu

          I travel internationally at least 3 times a year. I live close to the border with Mexico and I go there pretty often. I have never seen the unlock app but it sounds painful to call them and ask for unlock code each time I travel. I guess this program is not for me.

        • Jeffrey Wang

          It is on new Android phones, and it gives you 30 days temporary unlock.

        • Sorin Lazarescu

          I have a Note 3. Would this app be on my phone? What is the app called?

        • Jeffrey Wang

          Sorry, I don’t know if Note 3s have it. Assuming it is T-Mobile branded, it’s called Device Unlock and has a pink padlock as the app image. I have an LG Leon LTE, and it has this.

        • Sorin Lazarescu

          Thanks for the info. I’ll go to a tmo store and ask them.

        • TylerCameron

          Why not just roam?…

        • Sorin Lazarescu

          Data is too slow when roaming

        • Walter Lonsdale

          Why do you need an unlock code? Just curious.

        • Walter Lonsdale

          NM I figured i out

        • TylerCameron

          Buy an unlock code for $2…

  • Kevin

    This potentially makes T-Mo a fortune on accessories as well. Switching between phones constantly, buying new protectors, cases, etc…

    • alex

      i woudnt, amazon or ebay. T mobile accessories are way overpriced.

      • El_Chuletas

        I did that too, ordered the case from Amazon and before I could get it in the mail, I broke glass of my xperia z32 days old

        • GersonT1000

          I plan on getting 2-yr SquareTrade warranties for these phones. They come out to $100 for two years, plus pro-rated refunds. That means that if I change my phone yearly, I get $50 back so it’s basically $4.17/month for insurance, plus the deductible is only $75 compared to the $170 deductible with T-Mobile insurance (although T-Mobile insurance has the advantage of loss/stolen phone protection).

        • alex

          are these phones eligible for squaretrade?

        • GersonT1000

          I don’t see why not. When people lease a car they must get insurance, but they don’t get it from the dealer.

      • Kevin

        I do that as well. Many people don’t though. Especially older individuals, or those that are very impulsive which this is targeted for. I know many people that won’t leave the store without some kind of protection, and knowing they will have to foot the bill on a leased device if they break it, I assume will cause a good number of individuals to just buy something while they are already there. Then leave the store with their phone already protected.

        • Nick Finger

          Well if I don’t have to pay nothing at all like the Sale Tax then I might of well spend $40 on some glass protector or a case from then huh?

        • Kevin

          That’s true. I’m not knocking T-Mobile for it, just pointing out to those wondering how they can recoup the costs. Besides the money coming in from reselling the old phones, they will make money in other ways such as selling accessories for the constant upgrades.

        • Nick Finger

          I usually don’t buy a case or a glass protector for my phones. So I will now if I can switch to this new JUMP! Plan.

        • Jeremy Turnley

          They mainly recoup the costs by selling the used phones. Developing markets are huge for this sort of product, or they can sell them here as part of their New2U program.

        • Allen Alberto Enriquez

          Great Nick Finger! that’s my thought exactly, especially that every so often I receive a 30% coupon for in store purchase, also that like the high end headphones, high end bluetooth speaker can go on a accessories eip thats a big deal to me with that 30% off far out deal right!?

        • Jeremy Turnley

          Don’t forget that you also probably just lowered your bill, so that accessory EIP is just keeping your bill the same!

          Thus the madness begins….

  • alex

    am i eligible for 3 upgrades in 2015 if i am to get my first phone on June 28? :)

    • hack400

      No, 3 upgrades before 6/27/2016…

  • GersonT1000

    I’ve been tweeting @Tmobile and found out some great info that I was really questioning:

    ‏@GersonT1000
    3h3 hours ago
    @JohnLegere Does the first phone u’re turning in to get #JumpOnDemand have the remaining EIP payments cancelled?

    ‏@TMobileHelp
    3h3 hours ago
    @GersonT1000 @JohnLegere The first phone’s EIP would continue, but the old device’s trade in credit would apply to the EIP balance. *JB

    @GersonT1000
    2h2 hours ago
    @TMobileHelp @JohnLegere Will #JumpOnDemand upgrades always require a trade-in device, even if I pay off the then current phone in full?

    @TMobileHelp
    37m37 minutes ago
    @GersonT1000 The only phone on Jump On Demand that requires a trade in is the special iPhone offer otherwise it’s not required. :) *DNM

  • Ordeith

    Lame.

  • elite2291

    Jump 1 vs Jump 3

    Jump 1
    *Upgrade every 6 months (twice per year)
    *$10/month includes jump, insurance and lookout
    *Can pay off phone at any time
    *Any phone is eligible
    *In store or ship to home is eligible

    Jump 3
    *Upgrade any time (3 times per year)
    *No sales tax upfront (well qualified)
    *No mandatory monthly payment for jump 3 (cheaper)

    Anyone have anything to add to this?

    • Cellphone Chris

      Jump 1

      *Pay sales tax on full retail each time you Jump
      (not new phone value – trade value)

      Jump 3

      *$8/mo if keeping insurance

    • Walter Lonsdale

      Jump 1 probably doesn’t apply to most people here anyway.

  • fw

    yawn

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