T-Mobile Network Updates: Band 12 sightings in California, 100Mbps speeds in Augusta & more…

It’s been a little while since we updated you with the latest sightings from our T-Mobile-obsessed readers. And there are a few to get through in today’s network update post. Most is further news of band 12 LTE (700MHz) expansion, some is news of crazy speeds up in Georgia. But either way, it’s all good news when we hear of our readers seeing real-life improvements from T-Mobile’s efforts at improving its network.

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Kansas City

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Until relatively recently, Kansas City in its entirety was within a protected TV broadcast channel 51 area. What that meant was that, while T-Mobile owned 700MHz spectrum there, the carrier couldn’t roll it out until the TV channel was moved. Thankfully, it looks like that happened over the past week or so. A reader got in touch with us forwarding a message found on ION Television’s website which states that the company is “upgrading its technical equipment” requiring customers to re-scan for the ION television free service. ION TV’s notice states that the transition occurred around May 29th, just 9 days ago. This should now enable T-Mobile roll out the 700MHz LTE in KC.

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California

We’ve been informed of band 12 sightings in two areas in California. The first is in Bakersfield. A reader got in touch and informed us of improved indoor coverage there.

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The second was an area around Paramount and Bellflower, further south.

Bellflower:Paramount CA

Both areas are within markets where T-Mobile owns – and can deploy – band 12 LTE. The fact it has reached both of the mentioned markets shows how fast the carrier is rolling out the lower frequency network in California. Just using DanRant’s map as a rough reference, it’s clear the company’s network technicians have been busy in the State.

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Maryland

One of our readers from Waldorf in Maryland (around 25 miles south east of Washington DC) was delighted to find band 12 LTE in his area.

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Although he didn’t note how it affected him, he was pleased nonetheless to see signs of T-Mobile’s LTE network being strengthened.

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Florida

In Hialeah, Florida we’ve heard from two separate readers that band 12 has been spotted there. One in the main part of the city itself, the other in Hialeah Gardens. It seems there’s at least one site officially live on air in the area.

Hialeah Gardens FL

Of course, band 12 deployment isn’t the only network improvement that needs drawing attention to. T-Mobile is still rolling out its Wideband LTE network across the States. Depending on the area, you’ll see 15+15 or 20+20 networks being deployed and boosting download speeds up to somewhere between 50-100Mbps. At least that’s the usual scenario.

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Georgia

Augusta GA Wideband

In Augusta, Georgia, one our readers managed to clock an incredible download speed of 124Mbps. In most cases when we’ve been sent sightings of Wideband LTE, we’ve seen speeds hovering between 50-70Mbps. So to see a speed over 100Mbps is awesome. Although they may not experience that speed all the time, it’s good to know the network has that kind of capability.

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  • Cg

    That was at 5am girl bye. I’m more interested in seeing the speeds mid day.

    • Trevnerdio

      Don’t forget, that’s 8:03 AM Eastern time! Makes it a lot more valid.

      • Cam Bunton

        Yeah.. Georgia’s not exactly on the West Coast. lol.

    • afive720

      The 100mbps I was referring to was mid day, 4pm EST.

  • Ryan M.

    TMO is smart prioritizing California’s rural Sierra foothills for band 12. Had been lousy to zero service in most areas! Those hills get in the way of higher freq bands in a nasty way.

    • carol argo

      I don’t know what tmobile is doing but I can tell you this ,on i95 (with the proper band phone)lte coverage is insanelly high.most of the time when i loose lte it isn’t because lte isn’t there but because of polling frequency (who is the person that cooked up the idea of using this .scale so badly even Firefox doesn’t like polling frequency

  • Trevnerdio

    @Cg, I got 113.07mbps just a few days ago here in Panama City, FL, at 7:36 PM, right off of one of the busiest streets in town :)

  • Philip

    I thought they cant do in GA because of a TV station. Or maybe in metrol Atlanta only?

    • Trevnerdio

      You’re thinking of Band 12. Band 12 isn’t wideband yet. He was posting about the 700 MHz frequency, and then throwing in the fact that Band 4 LTE (which is now wideband in many places) is putting in some serious work haha

      • (Cough WFXG cough) And about 33-50% of the people in our area can’t even get WFXG over-the-air because their Channel 51 tower is pathetically low-powered.

        WFXG is getting zero benefits by being on 51 and T-Mobile needs to pressure them to vacate the channel.

        • Trevnerdio

          Imagine the pain knowing that T-Mo owns 700 spectrum all the way down to literally half an hour north of you :(

      • eAbyss

        T-Mobile will never have wideband in band 12. There simply isn’t enough band 11 spectrum available for purchase.

        • Trevnerdio

          That’s sad. But hey, as long as we get coverage indoors, that’s all I care about.

  • nycplayboy78

    I am in the DC Metro and I am still get Band 4 on my Galaxy Note Edge…SIGH…In Northern Virginia (Fairfax County) I get sporadic Band 12 coverage but the majority of the time I am on Band 4 with no Band 12 love…..SIGH…..

    • Trevnerdio

      What about Band II? Anything there?

      • nycplayboy78

        What is Band 2 coverage? I use LTE Discovery app on my phone and I get Band 4 and maybe Band 12 in Washington, DC…..

        • Trevnerdio

          1900 MHz, the old PCS band used for 2G GSM

        • nycplayboy78

          Ahhh yes the old PCS refarm…Everything in the DC Metro is Band 4 now and Band 12…But when I travel up and down the 1-95 corridor I do get 2G service in some areas in particular Delaware and going south of Richmond in between Williamsburg and Norfolk

        • Trevnerdio

          The PCS refarm you’re thinking of was GSM to HSPA :)

        • Jaden Keuten

          It’s GSM to LTE. Was announced last year.

        • Trevnerdio

          That’s the current phase, yes. The first phase, GSM to HSPA (before T-Mobile even knew what LTE was) began a few years ago.

    • Justin Smith

      Probably because band 12 is meant to improve coverage indoors, it also isn’t very fast so your phone chooses the faster signal instead of just the stronger signal.

      • nycplayboy78

        Justin thank you for explaining that to me. I had no idea and you know what it makes absolute great sense. Thanks once again for clarifying that for me :)

  • Tim O. Towers

    Well, I personally have been seeing Band 12 pop up like crazy all over parts of Orange County, California since the beginning of this month. Especially in Anaheim, Orange, and Santa Ana. I was able to confirm this at T-mobile stores in Orange and in Santa Ana by forcing the Galaxy S6 phones there to Band 12. I drive to work on the 57 freeway by Anaheim Stadium and Honda Center and LTE Discovery app alerts me to Band 12 there. Very exciting!

  • Justin Smith

    You forgot yo mention the new 700 in Orreville, Ohio Cam! It popped up on the 700 map not that long ago.

  • Jay J. Blanco

    Wide band is awesome in Augusta. Even hspa I was getting 30mbps plus.

    • Trevnerdio

      I remember freaking out when I got 9mbps on my tablet years ago on T-Mobile…thems were the days.

      • Trevnerdio

        Psych, give me moar 100mbps!

      • Jay J. Blanco

        I remember getting 20mbps in Charlotte NC on HSPA

  • Andrew Shelton

    Not sure what has changed here in Louisville, KY but I was averaging about 10 down and 5 up and in the last two weeks I get a consistent 60 down 15 up inside my apartment building LTE Discovery app shows that it is still a Band 4 signal but it is much faster than what I was use to seeing.

    • Randy Cravens

      Louisville isn’t the only place seeing improvement. The BG Parkway between Lexington and Elizabethtown (and continuing west to Leitchfield on the WK) is now LTE all the way (with only occasional hiccups). This entire run was almost all EDGE/No service as recently as a few months ago. TMO is stepping up the game in rural Kentucky, which is REALLY nice to see!

    • superg05

      they probably widened the channel and added backhaul

    • Jess

      They’ve probably skinned HSPA+ to add more bandwith, I’ve been hearing rumors that in some markets they are crucifying HSPA+ for LTE. Whichever the case may be, it’s awesome to see Louisville getting some much needed speeds.

  • Linju

    Does anyone know what is the app showed on the screenshot above? Is it available on IOS also?
    Thanks!

    • eAbyss

      You’re probably talking about LTE Discovery. No, it’s not available on iOS. Apple doesn’t like you doing any of the cool stuff on iOS.

  • Sushimane

    Greenville,SC got band 12 which is surprising but it’s spot between location.

    • William Burr Winans

      Do you have a source?
      If that’s true T-Mobile bought Spectrum from Cavalier!

      • Sushimane

        Is there a way I can post it to show it?

        • William Burr Winans

          What do you want to show?
          If it is a screenshot you upload it to Imgur and get the link

        • Sushimane

          I did a screenshot is that proof. I did a lte discovery but remember it’s spotty

        • thepanttherlady

          Post a link to your screenshot, I’ll approve it when it comes through.

        • Sushimane

          Ok thanks. Is this right to say that Greenville sc has band 12?http://imgur.com/4N7IZ3c

        • Jess

          Well I’ll be damned! where could this be coming from? I wonder if it’s coming from the Atlanta market. BTW congrats!!! :-)

        • Sushimane

          I’m not sure.

        • William Burr Winans

          Well I’m not sure because LTE Discover can sometimes be inaccurate but next time when you see Band 12 on LTE Discovery go to Service Mode

        • Sushimane

          I have the Xperia z3. Those code doesn’t work for some reason but I just left Greenville head back to Spartanburg.

        • William Burr Winans

          Sorry it’s for Samsung!

        • Sushimane

          Yeah I did that. Band 12 was added into the mix with the update of 5.0.2 update

        • Raiterio Patterson

          How is that possible? T-Mobile doesn’t own any 700MHz spectrum in SC according to the map…so jealous

        • Sushimane

          Idk I used the lte discovery today and it was mainly band 4 but it jump to band 12 here and there but it might be from atl who knows

        • Raiterio Patterson

          Hmm, if it’s jumping around from band 4 to band 12 you might be picking it up from Atlanta. You did say you live in Greenville right?

        • sushimane

          i dont live in greenville but in spartanburg which is a band 4. but woodruff road in greenville covered with band 12 but at pleasantburg greenville sc is where band 12 ends. Taylors,greenville is band 4

  • Bradley Karas

    That’s great with Hialeah…but they need to clear out that station in Cocoa, FL so Orlando can get on board…getting a little congested there

    • Fabian Cortez

      Band 12 won’t help with “congestion” in that area.

      • Trevnerdio

        Sure it will. Not a lot, but it’s additional frequency. They’re not just moving it off of one frequency and putting it on 700, they’re adding 700.

        • Justin Smith

          People still need a band 12 capable phone which very few have unless they bought a new phone recently.

        • Trevnerdio

          Of course it may not alleviate as much congestion as we’d all like, but it’s something ;)

  • ltnstar

    Wonder what part of Bellflower? I’m in bellflower and have not seen it. But as of late in my home I have seen the signal drop to nothing, which I didn’t have issues before. So I wonder. Guess I’ll be driving around and checking then.

    • Mario Gallegos

      Band 12 was on last Wednesday early in the morning at 6am but they shut it down later in the morning. Band 12 has not been on since last Wednesday thou as I check every morning.

      • ltnstar

        So where about was it spotted though?
        I’m off bellflower blvd close to artesia and back when I test drove the service I was getting 10mbps on peek hours and now I’m at like 2 mbps. I hit a dead spot at the CVS off Lakewood and alondra.

        • Mario Gallegos

          It was spotted going up Lakewood blvd then going on Alondra towards paramount because there is a tower near a stater bros that is upgraded with band 12 but has not been online since last Wednesday

        • ltnstar

          Thnx for the info. I just drove up there and yeah didn’t see nothing. But that’s also where I drop signal on LTE.hopefully more towers are being upgraded too and not the way sprint handled their upgrades.

  • Sholt

    We need massive improvement in San Antonio. I have to downgrade from LTE because their HSPA network is the only reliable thing here, and even then it’s only 5down.

    • Paul

      I live in San Antonio also, and I live in an area thats supposed to be good lte coverage, I get 4g or edge mostly, and im standing outside.

    • taxandspend

      I was just visiting there over the weekend. At the Riverwalk, it works great. And inside it’s band 12, outside band 4.

  • William Burr Winans

    In Aiken, SC I was able to get 128mbps at Richland Avenue East!

    • Raiterio Patterson

      I’m so jealous of you…

    • Justin Smith

      South Carolina??? I didn’t even know that T-Mobile had 20×20 anywhere in that state.

      • William Burr Winans

        6 counties have 20×20 LTE

        17 have 15×15 LTE

        Rest are 10×10 LTE

        This doesn’t include AWS 3

        • Andrew Prescott

          What phone are you using?

        • William Burr Winans

          Note 4

        • Andrew Prescott

          What does Lexington county have?

        • William Burr Winans

          10×10 sadly but have 15×15 on PCS

        • Andrew Prescott

          We get good building penetration as well. Why is that? That’s with unlocked (from at&t) iPhone 6 using T-Mobile SIM and a pretty big manufacturing building. I didn’t think there was any 700 mhz around here. I’m guessing 10×10 gives good building penetration??

        • William Burr Winans

          T-Mobile doesn’t have 700MHz in South Carolina yet but the 10×10 is actually AWS Spectrum which doesn’t have have penetration inside buildings. From what I understand the PCS have decent penetration depending on how close you are to the tower.

        • Andrew Prescott

          I don’t think this building is that close and it’s all around Lexington and lots of its surrounding areas. I’ll have to find out where the towers are.

  • Barbosa

    Does anyone if band 12 will ever get to San Francisco bay area? I know there’s a channel 51 there.

    • substance

      I read in a tweet that the bay area was in the works… It referenced San Jose but I would think San Fran would be in the works as well…

      • Barbosa

        That’s awesome!! thanks for the info.

  • Roger

    How do you force a samsung galaxy s6 to use band 12 LTE?
    I was at the Ross store in Downtown LA in the underground level and I thought I was going to be covered with band 12 but instead I was getting 2G and no service.

    • lsuisme69 .

      *#2263# than click band selection , then click LTE band than band 12

      • Roger

        Thank you very much!

  • Jay Holm

    100+?!?!? Highest speeds I ever got were around 86-88mbps in Orange Ct. I wonder how much longer til that remaining 5mhz from MetroPCS will be integrated into T-mobile’s Wideband LTE???

    • Tim O. Towers

      It was announced already that June 17th is the final cutoff date.

      • Tim O. Towers

        Oops, I meant June 21st

        • Jay Holm

          Oh…ok.

      • Jay Holm

        9 days away. Good, bring on the 20mhz markets!!! Then hopefully next year full carrier-agfeegation, and 100+mbps will be commonplace!!!

  • afive720

    I live in Atlanta, Ga. Just switched from T-Mobile. But, if you go on Roswell Road near by highway 285, you can constantly get 100mbps on T-Mobile even on iPhone 6 +. So, you don’t need band 12 support for that. Most places clock anywhere from 60-100mbps in Atlanta. Issue is that it is weak when you are anywhere other then main road.

    • Raiterio Patterson

      Do you know anyone that has a phone that supports band 12, or better yet do you have band 12 yet? Has that channel 51 been relocated yet? So many questions sorry.

      • afive720

        I don’t think it has yet. We replaced iPhones with s6 and a nexus 6 prior to leaving in hopes that it would have improved coverage as we drive all over Atlanta. Usually s6 showed 2 more bars of lte, which I think only differs in how it is displayed as it would drop from lte to hspa with 2-3 bars of lte. It was always connected to band 4, never anything else when checked. Service was the same, spotty in many locations that weren’t major roads and outside.

        • Raiterio Patterson

          Band 12 must be leaking out from a tower of 2. T-Mobile might be trying put out wideband AND band 12. That’s what I would do.

      • Stone Cold

        Z3 does

  • Doug Z.

    Band 12 is on in Michigan only two weeks after channel 51 relocated. B12 has been spotted in Lansing and Ann Arbor.

  • Raiterio Patterson

    If you follow John Legere on periscope, get your comments out there to him.. He doesn’t read them all, but he’s the only CEO that’s on periscope

  • mreveryphone

    I was wondering when we were going to get band 12 off the ground here in Kansas City… We were one of the first cities to fire up lte!

    • Justin Smith

      Being first doesn’t mean much. It means that T-Mobile already had was antennas and fiber to your towers and it was a major money source for the company.

      • mreveryphone

        I never said being first meant anything… I was just stating we were on of the first cities with LTE is all.

  • Cam Fas

    Wish they could get some spectrum from was it continuum in Las Vegas? 700 MHz could get us up to 20+20 lte who knows at some point we could get to 25+25 maybe up to 30+30 in the next two years

    • Justin Smith

      Isn’t Los Vegas already 20×20 AWS? Also it doesn’t work that way… It is just a separate band your device can connect to(until carrier aggregation) so it would be 15×15 + a separate 5×5 MHz 700 block.

      • Cam Fas

        Vegas isn’t 20+20 they haven’t gotten any 700mhz chunks in Vegas as of yet they are on 15+15 as of yet

  • Uri

    Where is the love in Chicago for band12 700MHz Data speeds

    • Doug Z.

      It’s not for sale. Not coming.

    • Justin Smith

      Wideband LTE is coming to Chicago next week! Hopefully then speeds will be better then.

    • Justin Smith

      Band 12 isn’t really meant to improve speeds, only better building penetration. This is partly due to the low number of people with band 12 devices.

  • GeneralThade

    what the hell is wrong with this website? Garbage adds popping up in random places and scrolling the screen automatically. Most armature and obnoxious shit ever.

  • Remy Hendra

    have you installed adBlock on your browser? I haven’t seen ads for years.

  • tm

    I’ve hit up to 70 mbs where im at “Coachella Valley”, but nothing close to 100 mbs. I’ve never seen that any network hit a hundred before. Bravo T-mobile.

  • Raiterio Patterson

    What the hell is US Cellular, and why do they so much spectrum in North Carolina? Regional Carrier with less than 6 million subs??http://app.wirelessweek.com/news/2012/02/us-cellular-inks-700-mhz-deals

  • TMREPKC

    Kansas City just launched 700 MHz

  • Clippers FANactic

    I have spotted Band 12 from West Lancaster Ca near “Apollo County Park” all the the way farther west near “Quail Lake Ca.” Band 12 was very inconsistent and it seem to disappear and reappear every few minutes. But It’s still wonderful to actually see the Band rolling out and appearing in places! Come on T-Mobile we need better coverage, so please hurry!

  • Brad Allen

    I turned logging on in a carrier logging app (SignalCheck Pro), and with a driving route bringing me from Aptos CA-1 CA-17 CA-85 US-CA-I-280 to Stanford and back again, the only Band 12 sighting I have so far is:

    first_time 20150721T044023 offset -7
    last_time 20150721T044023 offset -7
    last_device_latitude 37.109974 longitude -121.976425 loc_accuracy 37.5
    provider T-Mobile B12
    plmn 310260 gci 09012D18 pci 43 tac 14950 dl_chan 0
    strongest_rsrp -129 strongest_latitude 37.109974 longitude -121.976425

    The next entry in my log starts 24 seconds later (northbound on CA-17 2.0 miles later). The signal strength is weak according to the above log entry.

    Considering they signed the concurrent channel 51 deal with Univision only a week ago, I’m not surprised they don’t have much going on around here yet. But I’m looking forward to them fixing a zillion dead and weak zones in this rural and suburban area and route.

  • Yep, I’ve been getting some Band 12 in Folsom, CA. There seems to be a single Band 12 tower in my city. The one I most use, by my school, is band 4, and I can get 60+ Mbps download speeds.