Mobile HotSpot feature to be enabled on all active T-Mobile plans from June 12

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A couple of days ago, one of our sources got in touch to inform us of some pretty awesome promotions coming to T-Mobile customers this week. One of those was an increased mobile HotSpot allowance for those on qualifying plans. It turns out however, that this new HotSpot move will benefit everyone, although not all will get an increased allowance.

A communication was shared with T-Mobile staff informing them that from June 12, all “active plans” will have Smartphone Mobile Hotspot enabled. Changes will “impact Postpaid, Prepaid, Simple Choice No Credit, Business/Government Individual-Liable, and employees.” Even plans that don’t currently allow you to use your phone as a hotspot will have the feature added. That includes Simply Prepaid plans.

Perhaps of most encouragement is that caps on data allowances for Smartphone Mobile Hotspot use will be replaced by reduced speeds. What that means is that once you hit your high-speed usage limit for tethering, you’ll be able to continue to use your phone as a hotspot, but with a reduced speed. Currently, customers have the feature disabled once they hit their hotspot allowance limit.

As previously reported, some customers will also see their hotspot allowance increased by 2GB. Essentially, if you’re on an Unlimited 4G LTE plan ($80 and above), your allowance will increase.

Changes impact CURRENT UNL data plan options:

  • $50 + $30 = UNL + 5GB Hotspot 4G LTE Capped – Increasing to UNL + 7GB 4G LTE, throttles to 128kb/s after
  • $50 + $40 = UNL + 7GB Hotspot 4G LTE Capped – Increasing to UNL + 9GB 4G LTE, throttles to 128kb/s after
  • $50 + $50 = UNL + 9GB Hotspot 4G LTE Capped – Increasing to UNL + 11GB 4G LTE, throttles to 128kb/s after
  • $50 + $60 = UNL + 11GB Hotspot 4G LTE Capped – Increasing to UNL + 13GB 4G LTE, throttles to 128kb/s after

You can take a look at the community message below.

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All in all these are positive changes. Customers will be able to use their phones as hotspots in a pinch when needed. Although speeds won’t be great once the allowance is hit, it’s still got to be handy having it as a last-ditch emergency backup.

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  • Frankwhitess

    I take it that the old grandfather customers of the $70 plan which includes 3 gig of hot spot are Doomed to stay with only 3 gig of hot spot..

    • besweeet

      I’m on that plan and still don’t mind not getting some of the extra perks. I don’t think I’ve ever reached my hotspot allotment, though if I do now, at least it will still work.

      • Trevnerdio

        Usually the 3 gigs isn’t a problem for me…until internet goes out and someone needs to get their HD Netflix fix on on their Apple TV. Who knew it only takes an hour for 2 gigs to disappear?

        • besweeet

          I guess that’s what the APN trick is for as a backup, just in case.

  • Frankwhitess

    It’s not the extra $10 a month that gets to me, it’s the fact that if I change my plan to the new unlimited $80 plan or 2 for $100, t mobile can eventually change my unlimited data plan.. That’s why I am still with the old grandfather unlimited plan.. The old plan can’t be touched.. Yet the new plan is guaranteed for 2 years from the moment you sign on……………………………. What happens once the guarantee is up ??? Then what ??? T mobile can do as they please with your plan..

    • Jose Hernandez

      As I was told by CS, the plans should be grandfathered once the promotion is over.

    • Hector Arteaga

      You’re not under contract, they can most certainly change your plan if they wanted to. Anyway, I don’t worry anymore about it, because if they took the unl data and made it too expensive, I’d bolt.

    • gmo8492

      Okay I wanted to say this, but I rewatched the entire uncarrier 9.0 event on YouTube and John repeatedly said Unlimited is here to stay. But he can only guarantee the “rate” for what people pay for unlimited at 24 months. So if I interpreted this correctly he can only guarantee that unlimited will be at this current rate, but it might be more expensive. Unlike what Marcelo Claure said that unlimited will go away all together.

      • Frankwhitess

        To be honest, if he charges 100.00 per line for unlimited data and 12 gig of hot spot….. I’ll pay it.. As long as they continue to update the network… I think that is fair.. O and noo slowing my data..

  • David Tyler

    I just love this. I’m not a Tmobile customer but this will push cricket to get hotspot soon.

    • And Metro PCS too.

    • Frankwhitess

      Clearly Dave you are a fool for not having t mobile… But seeing that you envision cricket actually giving there customers hot spot brings into question if you are truly a fool or an idiot.. This I will ponder on.

    • Flip Jumpman

      Man, you’re funny. Go Cricket… Hopefully!?

  • carol argo

    I LL stick to my 30$ 5 Gb plan 100minute. I use thetering a few Time while I have had this plan . (ya it is a walmart tmobile effort. Never regretted it once. But I would say to potential customer wait for the 640 if your into Ms .since it has all tmo band

    • Sean

      Huh?

  • Garblicks

    They don’t get it. The $70 grandfathered plans needs some perks to. Tmobile refuse to even recognize these plans. We were the first, show us some love to unlimited uncapped data

    • Truffles

      You do – it’s called paying less than everyone else. If you want the perks, pay more for them. Stop acting so entitled.

      • JarrettZ

        Being with the company through all the tough times of 10+ years of modernization does make you entitled…

        • Stone Cold

          I am on year 11 they owe me nothing nor do I have the right to feel entitled. I want the perks I pay for them. Simple as that.

        • Tmobile Customer for Ten Years

          Simply said, well stated…

        • However…

          However, T mobile owes each customer a great service experience, solid coverage and hopefully, better than average phones and plans. As stated above by another, T-mobile appreciates their loyal customers of one year, two years… five years and ten years plus.

        • Trevnerdio

          I know a lot of us feel screwed when T-Mobile throws money hand over fist at new customers, and customers like my family, who have been T-Mobile customers since the Voicestream days in 1999 want similar treatment, we sometimes meet the “oh, sorry, there’s nothing we can do for you at this time.”

        • PC_Tool

          Obviously it makes you feel entitled. It certainly doesn’t mean you actually are.

          Pay less for unlimited, or pay $10 more and get a bunch of perks to go along with it. Simple.

          You could always switch Carriers if they aren’t meeting your needs wants.

        • Let’s Call it Loyalty..

          Simply said, Let’s Call it Loyalty. Per T-mobile, they appreciate their loyal customers of one year, two years… five years and ten years plus.

      • Goat

        We’re acting entitled when the prepaid customers threw their hands up last year when they had no perks?

      • GersonT1000

        I have the $20 unlimited internet and yet I still agree. They don’t have to give me those perks, although I expect them not to raise my price eventually either.

    • nate33j

      grow up…

    • UMA_Fan

      Yeah you’re paying less than everyone. There are millions of people out there who would love to be able to sign up for your plan.

      • thepanttherlady

        Those same people had the same opportunity to sign up as the rest of us. Why didn’t they?

        • mingkee

          I am holding up the $20 grandfathered data.

        • thepanttherlady

          They tried to up mine a couple of months ago. Pitched a bitch and they put it back.

        • Goat

          Anytime I contact them I deal with this.

        • steven berson

          At the end of every call with them i make sure my jump 1.0 and 20$ unlimited data hasn’t been changed. Can never be to careful lol.

        • Monkeyk

          $20 5GB LTE with a $15 discount is hard to beat.

        • JaswinderSinghJammu

          Are you on the original $70 unlimited plan?

        • thepanttherlady

          Yes.

        • JaswinderSinghJammu

          Me to and most people here think I should upgrade to the $80 to get more. I am like forget it. If T mobile is giving the $80 plan folks free music, extra 2 GB hotspot etc that’s . It doesn’t make grandfathered folks feel included but whatever. I am enjoying my unlimited data.

        • williejackbrainer

          I still $20 for unlimited data and they added 3GB hotspot to it. However, I got talked into changing my plan so now it’s $80 and includes the Jump 2.0.

        • Cellphone Chris

          I let it go to do the 2 for $100 plan. Kept Jump 1.0 though.

    • Stone Cold

      Tweet John Legere he is very active on Twitter. Ask him why long term subscribers on grandfathered plans get no special perks.

      • FILA

        cuz its a tactic to get you to miss out on so you have to pay the extra 10 bucks to get the deals.

      • PC_Tool

        Cheaper plans apparently aren’t “special perks.”

        Who knew?

    • Monkeyk

      I’m pretty happy with my grandfathered family plan. 5 lines, family texting, 4 lines have 5GB LTE data. $85/mo pretax/fees. I don’t mind missing out on hotspots or music services.

      • Stone Cold

        That is great it works for your needs.

    • taxandspend

      I’m on the $70 grandfathered plan as well. I guess the best explanation is that these plans no longer exist, so why would they change them? Consider yourself lucky. Your other option is the $70 plan goes away and you get to pay $80.

    • Mike

      The $70 unlimited everything is no longer an active plan.. From a business standpoint why would T-Mobile mess with an inactive grandfathered plan?

      • gmo8492

        Why?! Because it was the first plan to be offered in uncarrier 1.0 and a good number of people jumped on the chance to get unlimited data. There were also expectations that Tmo would follow through and fix problems people had with their old carrier. This isn’t tzones or some other ancient data plan that T-Mobile offered way back, they just discontinued not even a year ago. We are still loyal customers and you act like T-Mobile shouldn’t give a damn about us.

        • randomnerd_number38

          Are you getting anything less that what you signed up for? Heres the deal: paying less than what a new customer would have to pay is your perk.

        • gmo8492

          That’s the same BS logic At&t and Verizon use to push people into their convoluted marketing schemes. I am paying what I signed up for and I had no issue with the added perks of free music streaming on the more expensive plan. But if we’re talking about data limits that’s one beneficial feature that should be made available to all plans not just the newer ones.

        • Mike

          why would T-mobile revamp a plan they no longer offer?

        • gmo8492

          I’m talking about the core features of the plan itself, if my reason wasn’t clear enough then let me make it clearer. If you’ve been a long time customer and hear that there increasing data limits on tethering shouldn’t we expect the same across all their customer accounts. Especially if the plan itself was introduced as part of their new campaign about solving customer “pain points” which this is clearly one of them.

        • Mike

          From a business stand point T-Mobile wants customers to get the $80 plan which offers alot of perks but if you’re on a grandfathered plan and your happy with it keep it but if not change your plan. Every wireless company works this way that’s why it’s call a grandfathered plan which means no changes or perks will added to it.

        • randomnerd_number38

          Looks like the right people at T-Mobile agreed with you! Congrats :)

        • gmo8492

          This is what makes T-mobile different and why I’ve stayed with them for years. Just checked my account and I’m glad that so many other customers can benefit from this. :)

    • Fabian Cortez

      They don’t get it. The $70 grandfathered plans needs some perks to. Tmobile refuse to even recognize these plans. We were the first, show us some love to unlimited uncapped data

      In Cam’s other post, he mentioned that we’ll be getting some “love” in either phase 2 or phase 3.

      Remember, this is only phase 1.

  • Throttling rather than capping tethering is the uncarrier thing to do.

    Feeling the prepaid ♥!

  • justanormalguy13

    Is there a two gig bump on the promotional 2 for $100?

    • eanfoso

      I’d imagine So, you’re in the 30$ unlimited data tier

  • archerian

    Does this mean the dun blocking in T-Mobile phones and hotspot disable in iphones will be removed?

  • J Cav the Great

    So..does this mean everyone gets WiFi hotspot?? I have an unlimited data plan with 4.5GB at High-speed….

    • justanormalguy13

      You always have had hotspot

      • J Cav the Great

        OMG!!!! U R My new best friend!!!!!!! I did not know that…when I inquired about Wi-Fi Hotspot , the rep said that Unlimited 4G LTE plans get 5GB WiFi hot spot.. I took it as you have to have the Unlimited 4G LTE to get HotSpot… But I opted for the 4.5 GB LTE Plan…so I thought I was SOL!!! Thank you!!!!!

        • justanormalguy13

          The unlimited has 5 gigs. The other data plans can still have hotspot, but it dips into your allotment. So you have 4.5 gigs. That means you can use 4.5 gigs of data any way you want. 2 gigs regular, and 2.5 hotspot, for example. Also, remember you have data stash. Data stash will not work with hotspot, but will work with normal day to day usage. With all that said, if you plan on using hotspot much, buy a dedicated device and add it to your plan. It’s not that expensive, and works tons better. I just bought mine last month, and love it.

  • ewilts

    Not all active plans qualify. I have the 1GB data per month plan and the screen shot in the referenced article clearly states that there will be no changes for this plan.

  • Rocket Scientist

    Already at 9gb this month of data+hotspot use, and was over 40gb last month of mostly hotspot usage. This is nice that they are finally making hotspot part of the unlimited by not crashing the connection when it hits the normal limit… But the “reduced” speeds are NOT 128 kbit by ANY stretch of the imagination. Last time I had to deal with the throttled speeds, it was running about 2 kilobytes/sec, or a jolly 16 kilobit/sec. That is just 20% of what they claimed to be providing of “throttled” speed. Not even a MOBILE SITE would open with that. Every connection timed out completely or barely started to load anything before timing out.

    Totally unusable.

    They got what they wanted from me after two months like that – I switched to unlimited data and am paying them a good bit more money. But they also unleashed the Kracken… because I now am using 5 times the data per month that I was using before their throttling was turned down to completely unusable levels.

    Last year, the throttling wasn’t as slow as it has been this year, because when I was on the Edge network in some rural areas, the speed was exactly the same before or after the throttling. Once they started the “refarming” efforts to swap those towers from Edge to LTE, the performance on those same towers was trashed if I was past my cap OR the phone was showing Edge network. The allowable or available speed on the Edge network was the culprit.

    I have a hotspot device too. (Huawei thing) The configuration page on that says “available networks” and I can choose from a combination of LTE/WCDMA/Edge and a couple options of those. When that device hits its own cap – that configuration page ONLY ALLOWS selection of the Edge network… And the device is entirely unusable.

    T-Mo is “throttling” by restricting access of devices to a network that they are themselves turning off, tower by tower as they upgrade.

    I’m not saying that they shouldn’t throttle, but maybe they should actually check on what they are providing before claiming that it is 128kbit/sec, when it isn’t even close to that, OR functional?

    • FILA

      root your phone, there is a line you can add to the root of your phone to trick T-Mobile into unlimited wifi tethering! Look it up on XDA

      • Rocket Scientist

        No worries – Considering that I had 43gb of data last month, and about 90% of that was tethered by direct connection to my device (no clues so they don’t figure how it happened) I’m quite satisfied with the unlimited high speed data that I am paying for now. What I disagree with is the speed claims of their “throttled” connections when the user is over the cap. What they are doing is just forcing the devices onto Edge-only mode, but the Edge network speeds have been eviscerated by refarming or some other change in the last few months.

        • eAbyss

          No. When they throttle your speeds they don’t force “devices onto Edge-only mode”, they keep you on the best available network but cap your speeds at 128Kbps.

          For example if you’re connected to LTE and hit your cap then you’ll remain on LTE but your speeds will be capped at 128Kbps.

        • Rocket Scientist

          On the Huawei device, it is. It is being manually restricted to the Edge network profile in the configuration screen of the device. The instant that the monthly billing cycle resets, the configuration screen allows LTE network selection.

        • FILA

          So if you direct connect your phone to the another device to tether like a computer it doesnt count toward your GB cap? that doesnt make sense.

        • Rocket Scientist

          Not quite that simple… There are a couple tricks to ensure that the data counter sees all data coming from the phone only and not the laptop. Doesn’t change the fact that data is data. Program updates, maps, GPS, weather searching, etc. Why would it matter what the end device is?

      • samagon

        I hope tmobile finds you and stops providing you service. Cheating the system doesn’t just cheat tmobile, it cheats other users. Eventually, tmobile will clamp down and it will have been your fault, or the fault of you and others like you.
        thanks in advance.

        • julio sanchez

          While I agreed we should not cheat I dont see the point in carrier capping hot spot I mean I have unlimited 4g lte whats the difference if I use 20gb from my phone or 20gb tethering to my table or other device is the same 20gb a month.

        • Rocket Scientist

          Exactly. Someone streaming Netflix (I don’t stream tv shows) is pulling down the same amount of data whether the display screen is a phone or a computer or an HDTV. Why should the network care? Data is data. If you pay for unlimited, then it should be unlimited.

          Now if there is temporary congestion on a given tower, then I do not have an issue with speeds being *TEMPORARILY* reduced on that one tower until the situation resolves itself. This is called load-balancing, and networks of all sizes do it all the time. I don’t know why there was such a big deal about it a few weeks ago. It isn’t “throttling” because that doesn’t end until the billing cycle resets. Congestion adjustments are load-balancing. If that is based on total data usage, I’m not impressed… But still – TEMPORARY. I can work with that.

        • Flip Jumpman

          I agree.

        • PureAbsolute

          Its cause usage between the two devices is totally different. On a mobile, you’d have to be watching netflix all day, and that’d still be less than if you were to torrent *and* watch netflix all day on your computer. And do a windows update. And constantly check for updates for all of your windows programs. And have extra usage for whatever malware is doing behind the scenes. And doing a remote desktop. And having 30 tabs open in Chrome each doing a data update or page refresh every few seconds..

          Just to be clear, I’m not saying I don’t want unlimited hotspot — I want to be able to use a tablet which tends to have the same usage pattern as a phone, and I wish they’d find a way to allow that.

          But there is not *no point* for the distinction.

        • julio sanchez

          Is irrelevant what you use it for or where you use it for if you use the same amount each month whats better using 25gb across 5 different devices or 50gb just on your phone?, iam not saying let people abuse this but just slow down their internet when they reach whatever puts them in the top usage% just let them do it how they choose either tethering or not.

        • PureAbsolute

          Well, yes — data is data. However the ‘unlimited’ was offered with a reasonable expectation on people’s usage. Otherwise unlimited either could not happen, or could only happen with a much higher costs.

          So if TM could guarantee that your usage would be about the same whether it is with a phone or a computer, they’d probably have no problems. However, I’m sure they found that once they offered unlimited on the phone people’s average usage spiked triple or quadrupal when they started tethering or creating hotspots. That usage was not factored into the price.

          Kinda like an all you can eat place that requires you to not bring anything home. Unlimited food is unlimited food — however the food was priced based on what an average person eats at a sitting — not what an average person can take home.

          My personal preference? Charge people a cheap per megabyte rate — no tiers, and no differences based on the application. People will naturally settle on the usage they can afford. IMO, this mess was created when marketers wanted to charge people for data they didn’t use — so they created the tiers, and penalties for going over the tiers, which meant they got money both ways. The worst customer was a person that used the correct amount of data on the best fit plan. Charging by megabyte, everyone’s interest is aligned — the phone companies upgrade so they can get data faster to more people so they get more money. People pay for the data they want. They don’t use the data they don’t need to. WIN WIN.

          My 2c.

    • Anthony S Jennings

      16kbps? If you’re over 40gigs last month and that’s your max reduced speed, you are probably considered to be one of the heaviest data users on the towers you regularly connect to. Have you ever heard of connecting to WiFi when you’re at work and/or at home? Unlimited does not mean unreasonable.

      • thepanttherlady

        If one is paying for unlimited data, why do they need to connect to WiFi? My employer provides WiFi to our customer’s who need to download/upload files, not for their employees to use.

        Additionally, by who’s definition is 40GB of use on a paid unlimited plan, unreasonable? I don’t find 40GB unreasonable at all.

        • Anthony S Jennings

          “by whose definition..?”

          T-Mobile’s obviously. T-Mobile doesn’t exist solely to serve Rocket’s needs, expectations, environment and desires. They have hundreds of other customers accessing those same resources at the same time. If one customer is making it difficult for their other customers to receive a satisfactory experience, they will curtail the customer who regularly overuses resources.

          An argument could be made if they cut him/her off altogether. Being cut off is not unlimited. Curtailing speed in order to give everyone a fairer chance at service is what’s happening here.

        • IamTwone

          Exactly I have friends that are on at&t and verizon rather use slow dsl wifi because they dont want use all there phone data they pay for when there phone is faster but refuse to switch to tmobile because of how tmobile use to be. I have 2 lines on the older $20 unlimited and tmobile still give me perks. I was on the 4 lines for $100, told them i might switch my lines to metro and they offered me a select choice $50 plan with $5 aal even though the rep told me nothing would change and would save me $40 a month ended only having 30mb of data on the $5 so i had to pay $10 extra for 3gb but got rollover on those 2 lines so i ended up saving $20. So with 4 lines including phones I pay $179 after tax 2 unlimited & 2 with 3gb each. Great value and my sister has used over 100gb in 1 month and was never throttled no hotspot all phone data.

        • eAbyss

          Yep. If you pay for unlimited data then no amount of data usage is unreasonable.

          Personally, if I intend on being anywhere for a decent length of time I’ll test the cellular and WiFi speeds and then just use whichever is faster which usually tends to be cellular with T-Mobile.

        • Fabian Cortez

          Oh don’t worry, your friend will be in here soon to chide you for using too much mobile data on your Nexus 5.

        • thepanttherlady

          Hahahaha!!! And remind me how much of a life I need. :)

          P.S. I have never had the Nexus 5! I’ve had the Nexus 4 (hated it), the Nexus 6 and now the LG G4. Waiting very impatiently for some news about the damn Z4 Ultra. *grumble*

        • Fabian Cortez

          :D

        • Stone Cold

          First world problems. LOL :P

        • RyuNoHadouken

          I’m loving my LG G4 international version(model #H818). Works on GSM and CDMA. Sprint wouldn’t activate it for me(because it’s not Sprint branded) so i switched to T-Mobile yesterday…oh well

        • Stone Cold

          For me I slip between 4G and 4GLTE at work cause my building is 85 years old. So every so often I use the free Wi-Fi at work if I can’t connect.

      • Rocket Scientist

        Please re-read what I wrote above. The 16kbps was not throttling due to congestion – it is the speed I was getting after the data cap threshold was reached **before** I switched to the unlimited plan.

        I am well aware of what my local tower is capable of, and I restrict much of my activity to after 9pm anyway. So I am neither impeding any other person’s use of the tower, nor getting more than I am paying for. I pay for unlimited data. What difference is it to the network if that data is consumed directly on a phone or on a computer? I don’t stream TV or movies, but the HQ data is the same no matter what the end screen is.

        • Anthony S Jennings

          What on Earth are you doing thats consuming upwards of 40gigs of data that isn’t streaming movies? Giant Windows system updates? File sharing? Backing up all your data to a cloud service? All three of those seem to be inappropriate uses of wireless data, no matter the speed. In the United States, anyway.

          16kbps sounds like throttling. A true data cap means you would have gotten 0kbps (i.e. no service at all).

        • MastarPete

          If someone is heavily using their smartphone instead of looking stuff up on a computer and isn’t around wifi all day then upwards of 100gb would be normal use. Streaming anything just gets you there faster.

          What if.. he sent his phone for battery replacement. lets say a 64gb HTC One M7, no SD slot so he backed stuff up to cloud services the way the carriers and manufacturers seem to want you to. There was some kind of delay at the repair center and he ended up getting it back the day he was supposed to leave for vacation, a nice road trip in a well covered area with perfect LTE (100Mbps) the whole way. He had 30gb of cloud data and apps to restore. Being in perfect 100Mbps LTE the whole way meant the downloads only took an hour or so, but it took a little longer since there were some pauses due to switching towers. The other 10gb he used during his trip was a mix between navigation, looking up things to do and backing up new photos and video to the cloud.

          BAM, 40gb of legitimate data use. It’s not that hard.

        • Flip Jumpman

          Are you the data police? If you pay for true unlimited data then that’s what you should get.
          Who are you to say how someone should use their mobile data?

      • Flip Jumpman

        True unlimited data does mean unlimited.

  • terryjohnson16

    What about the people that have the “Data Match” plan on their accounts for $10?

    • Simon Belmont

      That’s what I’m wondering, too. Does it include the $100 unlimited plan for two lines?

      Doesn’t really specify. I would assume it does because we get 5GB of tethering now, but we need clarification on that.

  • jay

    Pretty great but why do I get the feeling something is coming that we all may not like and this is a way of easing the pain.

  • They need to implement these features on MetroPCS customers!

    • Gary Johnston

      Yes they do!

  • Just Wondering

    What does this mean for those that have Preferred Web plans (Android, Smartphone, Phone 1st) and T-Zones?

    • Stone Cold

      Probably nothing

  • Stefan Naumowicz

    So this doesn’t affect the $30 Walmart plan?

    • simon

      It should affect it yes

    • Paul_Werner

      I’m wondering the same since right now it does have 2.5GB Tethering included. I’m assuming based on above that will cap at 5GB now and if you reach the limit it will just throttle. I’m hoping so anyway but if it stays at 2.5GB it’ll still be better with the hard cap cut off

      • 2.5 GB? Is that new or are you confusing plans? I have the $30 plan with 5 GB of LTE and it includes 100 MB of mobile hotspot.

        • Paul_Werner

          I’m not confusing the plan at all, they’ve had 2.5GB since 10/20/13. Prior to this it has a lower limit (it may have been 100MB). Just this past month (May 28 – Jun 27) in tethering alone I’ve already used 229MB

        • No they haven’t. I’ve had service since Feb 2014 and it only includes 100 MB. There’s either a mistake with your account, or you have some sort of grandfathered plan or you’re paying for a mobile hotspot add on. I’ve also just verified online going back to Oct 24, 2013 that that plan has only included 100 mb. There is however a tablet plan for $30 that includes 3 GB of hotspot. There’s also a rooted work around to get over the limit. Some have also claimed they’ve gone over 100 mb without getting a warning.

        • Paul_Werner

          I’m not grandfathered because I switched from Sprint when the $30 5GB plan that almost everyone has was new. I’ve had several GB on tethering on several months after 10/20/13. I am not rooted or using anything outside of the default Hotspot feature in my N5. Not sure why you wouldn’t see the same but it’s been that way for some time for me

        • Aaron Davis

          What devices are you connecting to the hotspot? Some devices, such as tablets, other phones, and Linux PCs, don’t set off the hotspot usage detection, because it’s partially based on browser user-agent.

          On the Note 4, there is additional software added by T-mobile to plug this hole (custom version of stock hotspot app that can detect everything), but I don’t think the N5 ever had that “custom” hotspot, simply because its supposed to pure android

        • Paul_Werner

          It’s mainly my wife’s N4, sometimes my SHIELD Tablet, and other times my mother in law’s LG G3 on Verizon (when she’s used up too much of her data’s plan because she won’t switch from them as much as I try to get her to). I never needed to have a PC or other things connect to it just yet

  • Ordeith

    That’s actually great news.
    I wonder if the throttled tethering bandwidth will still be sufficient enough to link a mobile point of sale system…. hmmm

    • Fabian Cortez

      Of course it would.

      128 kbps is still good for streaming music.

      • Ordeith

        On what planet? Most streaming services are between 256kbps and 320kbps. Tidal even tops 1mbps. I don’t know of a single service that will function acceptably at 128kbps.

        • On this planet. Most services scale bitrate up and down based on network connection. They will work at 128 kbps and even down to 64 kbps. What’s missing here, is will Music Freedom count against your tethering cap?

        • eAbyss

          Not streaming audio. Most services allow you to select the quality and then strictly abide by it even when the connection drops below the needed speed, resulting in buffering. Some video services do the same.

        • Mike Thaler

          Pandora will work on their lower quality (ad based) service on EDGE networks most of the time (110Kbps). We woud have to change the setting on our Pandora One account which does look for higher speed connection.

        • JLV90

          Tidal is terrible, and pandora does 60ish on low.

        • Ordeith

          60ish? I want to listen to music on my phone, not listen to music that sounds like it is coming through my phone from a connected call.

        • JLV90

          A volte phone call is about 30 Kbps and no one complains about the quality of those.

        • Ordeith

          They would if they were trying to use it for anything other than a voice conversation.

  • Sean

    Not much of a hotspot user myself (currently on the $80 Unlimited plan), but this will be great for the long car rides using Google Play Music and Google Maps on the iPad!

    • Aaron Davis

      Depending on the phone, and depending on which hotspot app you use (3rd party vs stock), your iPad usage might not use up any of your hotspot allowance at all.

    • JLV90

      ummmm why would you need to hotspot the music unless you are hotspotting for someone else.

      • Sean

        Because the iPad’s bigger screen is better for Google Maps on the road than my phone is.

  • Javon C

    So if you have unlimited data, and the 3GB hotspot do you get an upgrade?

    • Justin Smith

      If you mean the $70 plan then I’m fairly sure you won’t get it since you are on a grandfathered plan

    • gmo8492

      No, at least not at this point because Tmo would have started sending text messages saying “certain features of your plan have changed.”

    • Frankwhitess

      Yesssssss!!!! You get to upgrade to the new $80 plan and enjoy the benefits..

  • eAbyss

    Sweet. Just in time for my 150mi trip over the mountains this weekend. This should help keep folks in the car happy.

  • Pete

    I have 4 lines for $100. How much more do I get?

    • Ty Christensen

      So you have the 4 lines for $100 with 2.5GB each? We have 9 lines for $150 (4 for $100 and 5 additional at $10 each) with 2.5GB each so I’m wondering if this affects us too, probably not.

      • Pete

        Yep, we have the samething.

        • PureAbsolute

          I’m pretty sure in the story it says the ‘unlimited’ plans — I think its 10 dollars extra per month per phone.

        • JLV90

          30 extra per line.

        • PureAbsolute

          Yikes — you have the wrong plan then ;). It is worth it for you to change plans. Unless you don’t need the extra data. Not sure if my plan is grandfathered in (managed by another family member), but for 500mb to 2.5 was 10, and from 2.5 to unlimited was 10. Yours sounds like mine but packaged differently (I had 80, 30, 10, 10), which makes yours cheaper for 4. Until you add the unlimited. Interesting packaging.

  • Cam, any updates…

    Cam, any updates for your readers?

    • randomnerd_number38

      Is this comment supposed to suggest that there is more to this story?

      • Yesssssssssss

        Yessssssssssssssss…

  • Technosquid

    Cool. Another feature I won’t get because T-Mobile decided not to follow through on their promise to migrate my grandfathered plan to an unlimited Simple Choice plan for the same cost/month.

    • hanfeedback

      Dude, they’re a business, if you want the new features of the new plans then pay the new price.

      • Technosquid

        Dude! There was no expectation of this until they sent me a postcard in the mail which said I would be getting Simple Choice with the same amount of data at the same price. You’re out of your element, “dude.”

        • FluX

          Weird, try calling their retentions department (call 611 and say cancel at the main menu to transfer to loyalty).

        • qmc

          Did you see the part where he said he talked to both standard and retentions? I’ve also done both.

        • randomnerd_number38

          So when it didn’t happen, didn’t you call them? It probably would’ve taken about as long as complaining in the comments section here, and maybe you could be enjoying new features instead of being bitter at people you don’t know, “dude.”

        • Technosquid

          Oh gosh… calling. I would have never thought of that. Your avatar doesn’t lie, you really are smart!

          I have called about this issue several times. No rep (standard or retentions/loyalty) has been able to initiate the migration. Some reps have claimed to have some information regarding the new rate (the same) and the approximate date of migration (I was told December or January) but it never happened. Some customers have been able to get action on Facebook and Twitter but at least one person has reported his twitter response was “The postcard was sent in error.” :eyeroll: No uniformity… it’s like the whole thing is a threat analysis of how likely the customer is to shame them on social media in order to get them to follow through.

          It doesn’t help that when I call 611 and say “cancel” at the voice prompt to get retentions, the reps love to tell me Simple Choice benefits like “Data Stash” I’m going to be getting, before they realize I’m not really interested in cancelling. It’s been over a year since I heard the migrations were happening, and around nine months since I got my postcard informing me of the migration… still nothing.

          I am a little bit bitter at T-Mobile for bungling this whole thing. If there’s any reason at all I’m being bitter at people I dont know (hanfeedback) it’s because it seems like they didn’t read my post before responding to it. I think it was clear from my initial post that I wasn’t just expecting Simple Choice features out-of-the-blue. “They’re a business” was a pretty generic response to my specific grievance.

        • Moby

          That’s really sad to hear that T-Mobile is letting you stay on your grandfathered plan that they no longer offer—at such a good price too! How horrible!

          Perhaps its time to take your business elsewhere…

        • randomnerd_number38

          Well thank you sir, i certainly am not detecting any sarcasm on your part and will take that as a heartfelt compliment. ;)

          That’s a bummer that the ball was dropped like that. It’s been about 7 months since I worked for T-Mobile in tech support, but I seem to recall there was a specific transfer line for people who had been offered a migration. It’s possible that customer loyalty/rententions is not the right department for this issue.

          Do you still have the post card? Assuming your goal is still to get on that plan as opposed to preaching to readers of comments sections how angry you are and how justified that anger is, if I were you I would take a picture of the post card and tweet it to John Legere and T-Mobile with some short and snarky comment asking when you’re going to get what you were promised. You’re good at short and snarky comments, and I’m sure that’ll be enough to get someone that can make something happen at T-Mobile reach out to you. Good luck!

        • Technosquid

          Yeah, maybe. A quick one-off comment on tmonews was about as frustrated as I was, but the more it turned into a conversation thread, the more I’m considering finally trying to force some action through the social media shame game. Not my style, but seems like the last option.

    • NardVa

      I see your point. T-mobile set the expectation with the post card. I reached out to T-Mobile through Facebook and was able to switch from my grandfather plan to a migrated plan.

    • Stone Cold

      Use Facebook or Twitter tweet John or T-Mobile help

  • DP

    With all this talk of throttling and reduced speeds I sure am glad I’m a Sprint customer with truly unlimited data. I use the $30 Tmo plan on a 7th line (that I can’t add to my Sprint plan) and it seems to work just fine for my needs. I know Sprint aint for everyone, but the speeds for me are just as good as Tmo’s in my area and all the places I visit.

    • onstrike112

      This is regarding the smartphone mobile hotspot feature that we get in addition to our truly unlimited plans that we have too. Sprint is a joke. The reason: CDMA.

    • GersonT1000

      Enjoy it while you can. Sprint has made no promises about keeping unlimited data, unlike John Legere. Actually, Sprint executives already said that they don’t believe they will be able to keep those plans and that they are unsustainable for them. T-Mobile IS unlimited and has a promise for at least a year or two (and if you have the grandfathered $20 unlimited data plan like me I’m sure they can’t take it from you).

      • Michael Barnes

        Sprint actually honers grandfathered plans like the other 2 carrier att and verizon tmobile is the only one i know of that forced people off of old plans all the plans before simple choice are gone and forced on new plans

        • Aaron Davis

          Forced onto new (better) plans…at the old price.

          I was upgraded to unlimited data/minutes/text, plus 5gb hotspot, for a grand total of $60/mo, based on my original plan of $30 for 400 minutes, plus $30 for unl. text/data (cheapest minute plan, with best data plan).

          Because minute limits went away entirely and I already had unlimited data with 5gb hotspot, I was automatically upgraded to the $70/mo (now $80/mo) unlimited-everything plan. But because t-mobile had promised not to raise prices for existing customers, my bill stayed at $60

        • Michael Barnes

          Ya there were lots that worked out well for alot of people

          But i am saying what are all the people who are on unlimited data plans going to feel like when they drop that in 2 years because grandfathered plans dont exist or honored

          I cant predict the future but being throttled sucks

        • qmc

          If the plan ends, the plan ends. Whether it was a legacy plan or a simple choice plan that was converted from a legacy plan. No real difference.

        • williejackbrainer

          Verizon does not allow you to keep your grandfathered plan(s). AT&T does for unlimited data. Also, I’ve had $20 unlimited plans for years untouched.

        • Michael Barnes

          Verizon does let you keep grandfathered unlimited plans i still have mine and people can AOL to others on verizon there selling for 700-1500 on ebay and att does as well they just throttle unlimited but they always have

        • williejackbrainer

          Hmm… that’s good to know.

        • NOMERCY

          FYI, Sprint is not honoring all grandfathered plans.

    • krym73

      I use to work for Sprint and even then wouldnt switch over even though i would’ve been paying half as much and was offered a new phone that had just been released at that time. Like i tell my friends even if you go with the 2gb plan with t mobile you’ll still see more 4g LTE or 4g than going with Sprint crappy network.

    • orlando duran

      We are talking about Hotspot usage. Handset data is still un throttled on high end plans. By the way, check your terms and conditions….sprint says it will throttle after 5gb. Besides, sprint can’t touch the speeds of tmobile. ( I consistently get this speed)Check out my Ookla Speedtest result. What’s your speed? http://www.speedtest.net/my-result/a/1297150666

  • Lexster

    So, it’s been years since I had speeds that low. Can anyone give me some examples of things that will still be useful on a 128 kb/s connection? I would assume email and messaging services would still be relatively quick, yeah?

    • Mike

      Yep, that’s pretty much it.

    • Aaron Davis

      128kb/s is fast enough for (most) streaming audio and regular web browsing

    • Map navigation works fairly well too.

  • Jon

    Does this mean the hotspot will be increased from 3gb to 5gb for unlimited data plan?

    • hack400

      For the grandfathered $20 unlimited data plan, yes, it is now 5GB…

  • Bill Berry

    My Straight Talk (AT&T) with 5GB (BYOP) with the HTC One M7 already does that and for those of us who were T-Mobile before they and every other carrier when ape-crap over tethering all remember we had this on all our legacy smart phones.

    • JLV90

      And if you bought your phone straight from straight talk you would get 3 GB, with no tethering. Their system is very strange.

    • Bob

      Congrat-u-fucking-lations… *claps slowly*

  • ☁Zack LaMarsh☁☁

    What about the Walmart 30$ plan that 5gn and with 100mb hotspot

    • RyuNoHadouken

      THIS^^

    • Bob

      Same as before, 5gb is shared and can be used on the phone or hotspot, once you get to 5gb you get throttled.

      • jam

        Weird because that’s been allowed for the last two months already for me.

        • ☁Zack LaMarsh☁☁

          tmobile says there only 100 mb of tethering tho and should get more and the twitter help asked up to corproate to figure it out

  • Lukasz Balicki

    Just checked my plan both lines went from 5GB to 7GB. 2 lines unlimited $100 plan

    • eAbyss

      Same here. They also updated the website today to reflect the changes in tethering allowances.

      • Don B.

        $20 unlimited got a bump to 5gb.

        • thepanttherlady

          All of ours are still at 3GB.

        • hack400

          It says 3GB in your “Plan” on the T-Mobile website, but if you look at your data usage in the T-Mobile App on your phone, it should show 5GB now. Mine does…

        • thepanttherlady

          You are correct, thank you. I would have never thought to look there since I don’t really use that app.

        • Brian the populist.

          yay i got a bump to 5gigs yay! so happy i never use hot spot but iwill now since it only gets slowed down

        • T-mobile App…

          Awesome, thanks for the tip, also. I checked my T-mobile App and it shows 5 GB….

        • To Pa Lu

          Nope, mine still shows usage 2GB of 3GB, not 5GB.
          Hmmmm.

  • eAbyss

    According to this FAQ which was updated on the 11th, only capped high speed data plans get “unlimited” tethering. Unlimited HSD plans still get tethering cut off after reaching their limit.

    https://support.t-mobile.com/docs/DOC-9847

    • hack400

      How did you draw that conclusion?

      That link says this – “The same is for the unlimited data features. Because tethering is added separately via the SMHS add-on features, tethering is tracked separately. Still, once you reach the tethering allocation on your SMHS add-on feature, tethering will be reduced until the beginning of the next bill cycle.”

      It says tethering will be reduced, not cut off (capped)…

      • SirStephenH

        Damn, I should have quoted it. It had said that unlimited HSD plans didn’t have “unlimited” tethering due to how it was added on and tracked and was that way til at least around mid-day on the 12th (7:50am my ass). The whole last paragraph on the FAQ has since been changed. I guess someone at T-Mobile didn’t get the memo.

    • Bob

      False.

      • SirStephenH

        True. They’ve since corrected it.

  • LuvTMO

    Yayyyyy… I am on grandfathered familytime plan and I got the hotspot! No upsell message anymore! Thank you TMO!

  • Popo Signs

    This is already back firiing. I have used 1.63 mb. I have run over 30 speedtests and it’s already being throttled.

  • Lydia

    Tmobile is a fraud. I am
    in Puerto Rico. They sell me a two cell phones for $100 a month + phones
    cost/monthly +taxes. Good, ,,, but the plan says Unlimited 4glte Data +
    Unlimited data. In other words i can use any data i can. And i supposed tu use
    the 4glte speed all the time. Well, after i use like 15gb, sometimes after 4
    days, because i bought this phones to use for streaming Netflix and youtube
    (for my children, because they said it is all unlimited), they throttle my
    speed to more or less than 30 kbps What happens to the unlimited 4glte
    speed? Who knows, they said they have something in their web page where it says
    that if i use more data than the people in my area they can reduce my speed.
    And i say,,, ok. You can reduce my speed, but you can reduce it less than a
    4glte minimum speed is required. .. They do not tell any more. I am working
    this with the fcc, because Tmobile will have to define the minimum speeds for
    4g lte, and in that case i assume it supposed to be a minimum of 3 to 4 mb of
    speed. And then, if they cap and throttle my speed at least i can still use Netflix
    and youtube. Because with a 30 kbps i can’t use anything that requires internet
    on my phone. Someone with the same problem>?

    • Jonathan

      The plans are unlimited. However after you use a certain amount of your alloted allowance they slow your speeds down. It’s still unlimited just not 4gLte. It’s in the fine print. If you did not read it then it’s on you.

      • Lydia

        Is my plan is unlimited 4glte speed and unlimited data,, how a company can talk about, “certain amount of your alloted allowance”??? Or you are the one that can’t read about what UNLIMITED means???? Unlimited 4glt speed means it will always suppose to work in that kind of speed. And i am not talking about hot spot or tethering, because i know they are slowing speeds after 7gb. I am talking about the speed and data in my cell phone use. Try to read carefully before reply to someone.

        • Jonathan

          I did read carefully. Tmobile just recently added a 21gb soft cap to the plans. After you surpass that your SPEED (NOT DATA) gets reduced but you still can use all the data you want just not at High Speed. Read the article on this very website if your still not aware of this. http://www.tmonews.com/page/4/ Don’t get frustrated with me. Just stating what’s in effect.

        • Lydia

          I believe the only way for you to understand my case is by verifying the plans for Puerto Rico, those plans are different that the ones from the states. I have two lines, with the 60$ unlimited 4glte speed and unlimited data, and for a promo they charge $100 for both. I have the copy of the papers of the plan they sell to me, in those it specify “4glte speed”. When they starts to cap or throttling my speed i filled FCC COMPLAINT. And after that i already pass a month and a half without any throttling of my speed. I verify more than 10 times a day the speed and is between what 4glte supposed to work. Its true that in night it works better, but during the day a have no less than 5megas of download speed. Also i consume more than 200GB per month. Now i have no cap and still working with FCC because if they will not give unlimited 4glte speed they will have to change the ways they are offering plans.

  • June

    I just checked my TMobile app to see if I was near my limit of 5GB (I have the unlimited plan – 90$/mo) and was surprised when instead of saying USAGE: 1.6 GB/5.0 GM it said 1.6 GB/7.0 GB. What a pleasant surprise.

  • Justin

    Hi, does anyone know if by purchasing an unlocked phone for T-Mobile, can one still use the mobile hotspot connection sharing if their plan allows it?

  • Dustin Johnson

    Beneficial? This is bullshit. My previous plan was strictly unlimited LTE with no limits on tethering. I’m pissed.

    • ๒レㄩ∑ῳ◊и∂∑Я

      should’ve kept the original plan. you got screwed and tattooed.i don’t know why some real competition hasn’t yet been introduced to the wi fi hot spot world ….. such a true unlimited or at the least not only allowing you to have unlimited data on these video services but on music services as well. as for the music services that should be included should be google play music,i tunes, pandora,tune in,i heart radio.slacker radio,and a few others. i might consider going with the 6 gig plan if they offered that.

  • John Sun

    Still not true yet …