T-Mobile LTE spotted in Cincinnati, should be up and running by November

Cincinnati-ans, rejoice! Sensorly mapping would suggest that T-Mobile’s network gurus have heard your prayers for LTE to arrive. A couple of readers got in touch with us to share the good news that downtown Cincinnati, OH has its first taste of LTE going live right now. Those beautiful purple splodges on the map below indicate areas where T-Mobile’s ultra-fast network has been spotted.

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What’s more, our inside sources inform us that Cincinnati should be full up and running on LTE by November. Perhaps even the middle of October, depending on how fast the network team can get all the work done. Perhaps more interesting is the network being used in the city. Unlike most markets, the LTE will be running on the 1900MHz frequencies (band 2), and not most commonly-used band 4 (2100MHz/1700MHz) or the new 700Mhz band 12 network.

So, if you’re a Cincinnati local who’s been holding out on switching to T-Mobile due to coverage, you could have a fast network fully operational by the time the holiday season swings around.

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  • Eric

    I’m betting 700MHz antennas are also being installed on the towers there, to coincide with the PCS LTE.

    • Nick

      Probably

  • Chris Hilbert

    Bring on Hillsboro please.

  • timmyjoe42

    They will probably have it up and running 100% by the end of the week because it seems like they only have about 8 towers here. I was hoping they would have been the ones to buy out Cincinnati Bell. This LTE launch might be the last chance I’m giving them to get service in my neighborhood.

    • Nick

      Yeah I was really hoping they would buy cincy bell too

      • 50atomic

        Verizon probably offered more $$$

        • Nick

          Definitely

        • Romdude

          If I was the spectrum sellers, I’d charge them to keep it away from tmobile by not just selling it but rather charge Verizon to continually do it.

    • Bori

      I’m still hoping they still strike a deal with Verizon and can get some AWS, those damn Spectrum Hogs don’t need it that much lol

  • Nick

    Yay! I sent that email last night.

  • maximus1901

    Won’t be that fast. Only 5×5

    • Jay J. Blanco

      Better then hspa lol. My city has 5×5. I’m grateful. Even though tmobile has lots of aws here

      • maximus1901

        TMO has 5×5 AWS in Cincinnati

        • Jay J. Blanco

          I know which sucks. my city has something like. AWS bands A,B,D, and F. But we has 5x5mhz

        • 50atomic

          Actually you only have 20 MHz of AWS (D and E blocks), so half for HSPA+ and half for 5+5MHz LTE.

        • boehmer365247

          Yes, but they’re deploying LTE over PCS in Cincinnati.

        • maximus1901

          They have 30 MHz in pcs divided among gsm, Hspa and now lte.
          AWS is used for Hspa 5×5.

        • keasycase

          T-Mobile will probably buy the aws spectrum from Verizon which just bout Cincinnati bell… Just wait on it

        • maximus1901

          Vzw didn’t buy it only to sell to tmo

        • Guest

          They have 40 MHz PCS.

        • maximus1901

          Oops. Yep they do. My bad

    • DirkDigg1er

      Applaud your hate! It definitely will be faster than EDGE with the much needed coverage.

    • Fabian Cortez

      5×5 MHz is good for 37 Mbps down.

      You can actually achieve 37 Mbps since LTE includes overhead.

      • maximus1901

        That 37 is shared by everyone in that same sector well see how fast it is when people start doing Speed Test’s

        • xmiro

          when is it not shared?

        • maximus1901

          Well it’s actually always shared. That’s how cellular systems work. If you’re the only one on the sector, you’re not sharing it.

        • Nick

          The fastest I’ve ever tested (just north of cincy like Hamilton) is 30mbps. Pretty respectable speed IMHO

        • Trevnerdio

          37 is not the total capacity of the tower. That’s the limit per user.

        • maximus1901

          you’re right it’s not the total capacity of the tower. It’s the capacity of the sector. Notice all towers have a triangle platform at the top with three sets of panels?
          37.5mbps down is the capacity of one sector on 5×5.

          If two people on the same sector did a speedtest at the same time, they would NOT each get 37.5mbps; they would get 37.5/2.

          5×5 is not much. cincinatti’s gonna be slow for a looooong time. Until 2g is shutdown.

        • Trevnerdio

          Really? That’s…very slow. That’s astounding.

      • Jay Holm

        Not a bad speed at all for only a 5×5 configuration!

  • Alex

    I honestly would be happy with some form of LTE in Cincinnati from TMO… It really sucks when even the small northern suburbs have it before the rest of us do closer to the city.

    • Zach Guithues

      Dayton is not a small northern suburb… :P
      We’ve had LTE for over a year.

      • Alex

        I was talking about places like West Chester, Hamilton, and Fairfield. :)

        • Zach Guithues

          Just giving you a hard time :P
          I hadn’t realized that downtown cinci didn’t have lte. That sucked. But at least you’re getting it now. :)

        • Nick

          And its weird because I think they started building that area out around April but then they just never went south into the actual city.

      • Kris

        What is the Max Download you get in Dayton ? I get tops 20Mbps in Huber ?

  • Mike

    There is no way to currently know (unless and insider shares info) that they aren’t using 700 band 12 since there aren’t devices to take advantage of it. So…maybe they’re doing that as well?

    • monkeybutts

      There’s two devices. Galaxy tab 4 and Galaxy Avant. Very minimal marketshare for both though.

      • DirkDigg1er

        Doesn’t it always seem like Korean/Japanese phones support future tech more than others.

        • JamesG

          Its not exactly future tech, no one used the specific band besides US cellular so why would companies put it in?

      • enkay1

        Actually, the Galaxy Avant is backordered online and unavailable in some stores at the moment. The popularity is astonishing considering it’s not a top tier phone.

        • Rdaex

          LTE, 16GB storage, Decent screen, 215 bucks… yea, not hard to understand the appeal. The phone is awesome for the money.

    • Jay J. Blanco

      700mhz hasn’t been launched anywhere and tmobile is currently rolling out 1900 lte. So it makes sense.

      • Hurlamania

        the map of the 700 mhz they got from Verizon didn’t include that area only the top half of Ohio, but they have bought more so they might but just guessing based on info they released its not. But I’m sure if they can they will.

        • Bori

          It does include Cincinatti , the only problem is channel 51. It’s preventing tmobile from launching lte on 700mhz here in Cincinatti at the moment.

        • Nick

          Yeah cause channel 51 is in use right now

        • JB45

          Cincinnati did get 700mhz

        • Jay Holm

          Maybe that was deployed also, we just don’t know it yet because there aren’t any Band 12 smartphones currently on the market.

        • JB45
        • Mike Palomba

          What map are you checking on?

        • superg05

          they bought 700mhz from 2 more companies also sent story to cam but he didn’t feel the need to post it i guess

      • enkay1

        700 MHz is starting to be installed and going on-air in the DC metro area. Here’s a tower being upgraded in Silver Springs, MD:

        http://www.reddit.com/r/tmobile/comments/2en6va/tnobile_band_12_lte_upgrade_in_silver_spring/

  • Bori

    I’m curious to see how much pcs Mhz is going to be dedicated to lte.

    • 50atomic

      5+5MHz. 30 MHz PCS total breaks down into 10 MHz for 2G/GSM/EDGE, 10 MHz for 4G/HSPA+, and 10 MHz for LTE.

    • 50atomic

      5+5MHz PCS LTE. Total of 30MHz PCS breaks down into a third for 2G, another thrid for 4G, and other third for new LTE.

      • enkay1

        If only they could shut off 2G. Anybody who is still using a 2G-only phone should be given a little nudge to at least move to a 3G basic phone. Same goes for M2M connections. I’m kind of surprised that businesses haven’t been rushing to 3G/LTE for M2M. The speeds and latency would make things so much more efficient for them.

        • http://pharaohtechblog.blogspot.com/ Conan Kudo (ニール・ゴンパ)

          AT&T’s push to make M2M 3G is working, so we’re seeing that happen now. However, LTE is just too freaking expensive (it adds almost $100-150 more to the cost of device parts).

      • boehmer365247

        They can always run 10×10 LTE, 5×5 for GSM, and then run HSPA on the 5×5 AWS. No matter what, they need more spectrum in Cinci.

  • JB45

    Only problem is my Note II doesn’t support Band II LTE

    • dontsh00tmesanta

      The Tmobile note 2 does

    • http://google.com/+BrandonTaylor26/ -Brandon

      Neither does the OPO oh well the difference from hspa+ to LTE just north of cincinnati is so small it is not a huge advantage

      • Nick

        The only difference I notice is texts send a bit faster because of the faster ping but that’s pretty much it

  • Nick

    I wonder if the 1900 MHz would help (a little) with indoor coverage. I know now my phone switches from LTE to hspa whenever I go to the basement.

    • taron19119

      Yes it will

  • AxelCloris

    So they’re launching LTE in Hamilton county and I may be moving away in the next couple of months. Curse you, laws of probability!

    • http://pharaohtechblog.blogspot.com/ Conan Kudo (ニール・ゴンパ)

      The same thing happened to me! T-Mobile rolls out LTE just as I move away from where I was!

  • What.IcantBelieveIt

    Mohave County (Havasu, Kingman, etch) AZ would greatly appreciate some upgrades. We are on the Edge….!

  • whatwhat

    I’ve read these stories before, dating back over a year. While I greatly hope it’s true, I will wait and see. 4G has been decent enough, but bring on that LTE.

  • tmobile customer amelia

    Well If they could up our coverage in Amelia ohio where 2g is we would really be happy .it really sucks not having 4g . I have to run a mile down street to send a picture or text message… .what a hassle. PLEASE UPGRADE OUR COVERAGE FROM 2G TO 4G IN AMELIA OHIO 45102. THANK YOU

    • maximus1901

      Then why would you have TMO? Lol. If you really can’t send a text message get cricket aka att.

    • John Brown

      I spotted weak 3g at Amelia Walmart the other day. I’m in Owensville and we’re also getting it. The wait is finally over!!!!!!!!! Try going into your network settings and selecting WCDMA only. That’s how I’m getting it in Owensville. Its not officially live yet.

      • jarredsutherland

        ARE YOU SERIOUS!?? That is awesome! I am close to that area and I soooooo badly want to switch back to T-Mobile, but the EDGE here in Amelia is killing me.

  • maximus1901

    Final answer: TMO has 30mhz of pcs in Cincinnati. I looked at details of each pcs license and it’s: 10×10, 5×5.

    Until AWS 5×5 Hspa or 5×5 pcs 2g is refarmed, Cincinnati will be limited to 5×5 lte.

    • boehmer365247

      My bad, you are correct. I thought they had all of the B block. I’ll delete my 40mhz comment to avoid confusion.

    • Jay Holm

      Then in that case, shut down the 2G! Get them old folks off their 10 year old flip phones!!!

      • maximus1901

        It’s also m2m but att is shutting down 2g end of 2016 so 3G m2m module prices should or already is coming down.

    • Drew

      Why not 10×10 LTE in 1900 b? Then there’s 5×5 for GSM, and 5×5 for AWS in Band 4.

      • maximus1901

        TMO wants 1900 Hspa to attract att subs whose phobes does not have AWS Hspa. Like me.
        I’m using an iPhone 4s. I’ll keep it till it breaks.

        • Drew

          Got it. That won’t be a long term thing, I imagine, as most 4′s are end of life now. Maybe 5×5 with 4×2 MIMO for now, then switch of 1900 hspa for 10×10, and when they shut off GSM, 15×15…

        • maximus1901

          They’re not gonna shut off 1900 Hspa for a long time.

        • JB45

          they have 4×2 MIMO in West Chester so it is possible the rest of the Cincinnati Market will have it too. At least we can hope.

  • David Coleman

    I know something has been happening cause in the afternoon on my commute home I can’t connect data near Findlay Market and thru that area till I hit Western Hills Viaduct!

    • Bori

      I agree, back in Covington I go from all 4G bars down to all 4 bars of 2G. Erratic signal, I see it as a good sign.

  • rusky

    So do anyone know how many mbps this lte is capable of?

    • 50atomic

      Maximum theoretical download speeds of 37 Mbps and upload speeds of 12 Mbps. Real speeds depend on many factors such as cell site backhaul, load, etc.

      • rusky

        Thanks

  • https://plus.google.com/106721695871122826476/posts?hl=en Aja Hemphill

    Just captured a nice little swath of LTE in between Colerain and Mt. Healthy on my way home. You can see it on Sensorly. Keep it coming T-mobile!

  • John Brown

    In terms of upgrading NE Clermont County, they just juiced up the next tower west of Owensville. I have to flip my phone to WCDMA only to even get HSPA, and it’s so weak I can forget about using it. COME ON! Upgrade the 2G towers!

  • matt

    I have bad luck every time I drive through those great purple spots I don’t get lte guess I’m always there at wrong time lol

  • Jim Dunlap

    T-mobile service is horrible in Cincinnati. There are many dead zones throughout the city and it gets worse as you go out into Clermont County or into Northern Kentucky. I really hope they expand their coverage if they are going to turn on LTE. Plus they are using the higher frequencies which make in building coverage worst. Clermont County still has 2G service! That’s pathetic. I mean not even 3G!! Plus, if you go past Batavia, even the 2G signal is spotty. I would not recommend them!

  • jonny_utah

    Just spotted LTE down here in Florence Y’all! Five bars!

  • Joe

    Just noticed LTE on West side of Cincinnati – ~15mb download and 3mb upload speeds. It used to be just regular 4G before, but now it is all LTE!

  • batman

    I got LTE in Blue Ash. 2.09 down, 0.48 up.