Uncarrier 5.0 incoming, but what will it be?

T-Mobile-to-turn-into-‘the-uncarrier’

It’s been almost 3 months since T-Mobile took the wraps off its last Uncarrier phase, and it was perhaps its most disruptive to date. Offering to pay off customer early termination fees in order for them to switch carriers was a bold move, with subscribers being offered up to $650 to trade-in and port their number to Magenta.

With three months having gone, and T-Mobile roughly sticking to one disruptive phase each quarter, it’s worth counting down to now:

  • On March 26, 2013, the Company announced its radically simplified unlimited “Simple Choice” service plan with no annual service contract. Device financing with the Equipment Installment Plan (EIP) provides customers with low out-of-pocket costs on some of the most popular devices available in the US wireless industry.

  • On July 10, 2013, the Company unveiled JUMP!(TM), a groundbreaking approach to more frequent phone upgrades. T-Mobile had more than 3.6 million customers enrolled in JUMP! at the end of the fourth quarter of 2013.

  • On October 9, 2013, the Company announced that it would make “the world your network – at no extra charge” – with unlimited data and texting worldwide in 100+ countries for Simple Choice customers. At the same time, T-Mobile announced that it had delivered nationwide 4G LTE in 233 metro areas covering 202 million people. Since then, 4G LTE coverage has increased to 273 metro areas covering 209 million people.

  • On October 23, 2013, the Company un-leashed tablets and revolutionized how customers buy and use tablets with free data for life. Customers receive 200 MB of free data every month with any tablet for as long as they own and use the device on T-Mobile’s network. In the fourth quarter of 2013, T-Mobile had 69,000 mobile broadband branded postpaid net additions, principally composed of tablets, compared to 5,000 in the third quarter of 2013.

  • On January 8, 2014, the Company announced that it would reimburse Early Termination Fees (ETFs) for individuals and families who make the switch to T-Mobile and trade in an eligible device. The plan also offers a trade-in value for customers’ phones.

As you can see from the difference in dates, there’s a 3-4 month gap in between each phase (except for October when the company announced two within the space of two weeks.

So there’s that pattern, and then there’s Mike Sievert’s tweet from last week, showing some execs around a conference table “planning the next Un-carrier move“. But the question is: What will it be? What is left in the industry to disrupt? Are there any pain-points left for consumers. What would you like to see?

If you have an opinion on the matter, leave your thoughts in the comments. If you have a tip to share, or want to get in touch personally, hit me up on email at: cam@tmonews.com, or on twitter: @TiP_Cam.

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  • Paul

    Comments about lack of coverage in 3…2…1…

    • jimkenobi

      It’s going to be government fees and taxes included. Fixed prices for all.

      • Paul

        That isn’t a bad idea, actually.

      • JBrowne1012

        I’ve always thought taxes should be included in advertised pricing.

  • J05H

    I hope the next phase is to bring back employer discounts at a higher percentage rate or at least some other type of monthly savings –

    • dm33

      Give everyone a 5% discount or include the “fees” into the listed prices. That would be a positive change.

  • Eric

    I can’t come up with anything, but something I would like to see as a side-benefit from the major Un-Carrier announcement coming up is having HSPA+ speeds when throttled, not 2G. (Or even mid-range LTE speeds.)

    • mmunson

      Even basic 3G speed (pre HSPA) would be great.

      • Eric00

        I agree! When I was home yesterday I noticed I was connected to regular HSPA on my GS4 (2 out of 5 bars) so I ran a speed test and I got 3.5 mbps down. Now, that isn’t crazy fast at all but for 3G, and only two bars, that’s pretty fast. Beats any other carrier’s 3G speeds on full bars.
        Not sure why my phone was on regular HSPA though, I’m usually on HSPA+ at my house with about 3 bars. But then again my house is literally at the edge of my city.

        • Trevnerdio

          How did you know you were on HSPA vs HSPA+? Your phone is incapable of distinguishing between the two. I found that out when the phones of 2011 would give me false hope of HSPA+ and I would only get around 1.5mbps lol HSPA+ is just HSPA with more backhaul to the tower

        • Eric00

          It is capable. It doesn’t show a 3G icon but it shows on settings> about phone. It shows whether you are on HSPA, HSPA+, or LTE. Though you already know you are on LTE with the icon.

        • Trevnerdio

          This is true…I’ve seen that before and wondered how it did that

    • Austin

      .50 Mbps. That would be *great* its twice what Aio gives. And completely usable.

      • Fabian Cortez

        800kbps to 1Mbps would be fair.

    • Eric00

      I think they should just throttle our LTE or HSPA speeds to like 2 or 3 mbps. Not fast, but definitely very usable!

  • phil44

    Lack of Cover…….no! I’m Not Going to do it!!

  • jeff grace

    Coverage via rural areas is being worked on .

  • Deadeye37

    Maybe Voice Over LTE with LTE-Advance? That way we could get more bandwidth & LTE coverage.

    • bkin94

      UNC carrier more estate tend to be less network tech and more marketing/deals. Not to say they won’t do volte, I just don’t see them calling it a major uncarrier move

  • Boludo

    #tmobile #uncarrierphase4 #baitandswitch #nodiscountforyou #ftw

    Well played T-Mobile, well played…

    [My guess for #phase5 is t-mobile phones will be sim-less and only work on #tmobile, if the employee discount benefit going away is any indication of a new direction for the new less friendly t-mobile.]

    • tmolover31

      I doubt it, because T-Mobile recently doubled the amount of LTE data for its Simple Choice plans and they didn’t raise the prices except for the unlimited 4G LTE tier, which still received double the hotspot/tethering data.

  • longtimeCustomer

    What? You are going to give everyone a discount?

  • Brody

    Get rid of corporate discounts so I can pay more money! That’s what I’m waiting for. Oh and do it right after I just switched to the Simple Choice plan from the Value Plan and am now paying more per month. Also, continue to not discount devices from their MSRP even when other carriers have sales. I’d love to pay $624 for an S4 a year later.

    • jeff grace

      Brody I think you need to wait and see …it is always made cheaper.

    • tmo fan

      The value plan was the same exact price as simple choice and simple choice gives you more data.

  • Torry

    I want to see the lift on the data restriction for domestic roaming. Even if it is throttled like international roaming. But 2G with a 50/mb cap is ridiculous.

  • dm33

    Their last “uncarrier” move was to raise prices. Maybe they’ll find some other prices they can raise prices. Yay!!

    • PT
      • bob90210

        You endorse a resolution every month when you send money to T-Mobile (or whatever phone carrier you have). Why bother with with another one?

      • hanfeedback

        Perhaps it would be best to have more than one sentence for the petition, oh and a complete sentence at that and not a sentence fragment.

    • Chris

      They only thing they raised price on was one data plan which was the truly unlim data plan. I fail to see as to how that constitutes as raising “prices”. I don’t like that move. But still, they raised the data cap for the lower ones to have more distinction between $20 5GB data + 2.5 GB hotspot (old plan) and $20 Unlim data + 2.5 GB hotspot (old plan) to the new plans $20 5GB data + 5 GB hotspot and $30 Unlim data + 5 GB hotspot.

      • Jason

        Removing discounts is raising prices no matter which way you slice it….

      • dm33

        They removed ALL employee and association discounts.

        That affects way more people than if they had changed the price on one plan because they have always grandfathered older plans.

        Not so with the discounts. No grandfathering. Real “un-carrier” move.

    • neoxone

      10 Dollar price increase? Ok, I will give you that.
      But how do you explain Verizon’s 40 Dollar ACCESS fee? What’s that? Payment to access my plan which they already charging me for?

  • Eric Blackman

    Yes, my carrier just took away a long standing discount. Perhaps they could do something about that… Oh wait…

  • my 2 cents

    T-Mobile should eliminate taxes and fees on their rate plans and have those hidden fees included in the monthly plan cost. Then, and only then, will I be able to justify the elimination of corporate discounts.

    • I concur!

    • Freak4Dell

      That would be nice, but I don’t see it happening. It just doesn’t make much sense. Not 100% of their user base had a discount, but if they were to start including taxes and fees, it would affect 100% of their customers. They’d lose more money this way, and it would have been smarter to just keep the discounts going.

    • Fr0stTr0n

      Never gonna happen with this economy and politicians

    • Aurizen

      that would be great! but I dont think T-mobile has that power since its a law I believe, we have to be taxed. 911, local fees etc.

      • Mystery Man

        They mean incorporate them into total cost as in 50 a month would include the fees so the service part would be 44.58 or whatever value makes the total with fees equal $50

      • Trevnerdio

        Businesses aren’t required to pass their taxes off on customers, I don’t believe. T-Mo could foot the taxes for us. But that doesn’t make economical sense.

        • Aurizen

          Yeah T-mobile doesn’t have that deep pockets to be paying our local taxes. some of it is kinda ludicrous, pay for 911? lol

  • S. Ali

    Raising my rates to pay for everyone else’s ETF is not cool. Moving one of my lines to Sprint.

    • A harrington

      Why in the world would you go to Sprint? They are slow, poor coverage and all their good plans are gone. Everyone saying their raising my rates and no advantage plans anymore? Waaaaah! Please it was based on who you work for and all the carriers have started making changes to accounts with employee discounts. I have a discount from my employer and with T- mobile. My billing will change, so what. Here’s a suggestion, start your own company and have your customers demand you to change your prices, give them a discount because they were inconvenienced, then have them demand you give them more without changing your prices, gripe about the good things you are doing, and have them still want more. Let me know how long you stay in business and not want to slap the next person that feels they are entitled to something. Never mind, not worth making a point, I guarantee someone will pipe in with some pointless comment. Ah, the beauty of Free Speech!

      • Jason

        I agree Sprint is horrible….
        Entitlement isn’t where you agree at time of purchase a price with tmobile sponsered dicounts and then tmobile reverses course…Maybe tmobile should go after their mnvo’s or raise prices on prepaid before they go after there most profitable customer which is postpaid….

      • Justin Merithew

        Well, lets dissect this a bit. Sprint is slow. In my area Sprint (Southern NH, Maine), Sprint is faster due to having a good amount of LTE rolled out while I get edge most places with T-Mo. Sprint also hoses them in building penetration. Also, Sprint does have Framily, which I agree, is kinda gimicky, but is a really good deal if you can get on a plan with alot of members, which really isn’t hard. $45 a month per line for unlimited talk/text/date is insane, and stomps T-Mo.

        I had made the decision to pass up on joining an 8 line Framily plan to pay a bit more and support T-mo, because I really liked their “Uncarrier” direction. Since I’ve joined, they’ve upped unlimited data prices, which thankfully I was grandfathered into the previous plan, but now they’ve axed my discount. Which if they did this, what’s to stop them from ungradfathering people, because we’re not locked into contract rates. That coupled with the fact that they totally dropped the ball on the M8 release, I’m switching to Sprint first chance I can. Masayoshi Son is leading Sprint in more of an Uncarrier direction than Legere is with T-mo. He needs to realize no matter how much he flaps his gums, there’s no way to put a positive spin on this stuff.

        • Guest

          I AM SORRY BUT YOU ARE AN IDIOT!!! lol…can you please just read your comment!!! WOW!

        • Justin Merithew

          That was insightful with all the awesome examples and details you used to counter all my details and examples! Is that you John Legere? If so, don’t be shy! No need to use a guest account!

        • Robert

          Your Retarded or are you High just with 4 lines your paying cheaper with T-Mobile compared with 7 with Sprint

        • Justin Merithew

          Ok, do you not know how Framily works…? Each person gets their own bill, but you have a group, and for every person in that group, everyone enjoys a lower rate. You get a referral code which you can pimp out online to fill you plan, and if someone drops you get a slight rate boost for a month, but can easily replace them. It’s much cheaper than a 4 line plan, because if you only need one line, that’s what your paying for, then you get the discount by adding other people. Next time do your homework before you try to trash something.

        • kalel33

          You can’t call someone retarded when you don’t know the difference between “Your” and “You’re”.

      • S. Ali

        Sprint has LTE where T-Mobile doesn’t. You can fund T-Mobile’s network, and I’ll come back when its done. Thanks for paying for it sucker!

    • neoxone

      Your loss!

      • S. Ali

        Not really, you’ll pay for an LTE network that doesn’t yet exist in rural markets, I’ll move to one that is already built. After you finish paying for it, I’ll be back. Your loss, not mine.

        • Boludo

          Wow, rarely do we witness a checkmate in 1 move on this blog. Well done.

          Anecdotally, my buddy switched to AT&T and because of an immediate family members corporate discount of 22%, his share for pooling his monthly recurring expense will be no more than $33 inclusive of taxes for his smart phone and 2GB. Claims he got by on a single line with T-Mobile with the 500mb plan, so his extra 1.5GB for almost half what he was paying on his one line with T-Mobile now that he switched to AT&T sounds like a great deal, not to mention better network coverage and strong in-building service penetration. Obviously he switched before the corp discount going away, but he couldn’t have had better timing.

        • kalel33

          Where does T-mobile have LTE in rural areas? Are you getting them confused with AT&T and Verizon?

        • KingofPing

          Funny I already have LTE form T-Mobile in my rural area. Several of my rural areas, in fact.

          Sucks to be you…

  • bkin94

    A loyalty program would be nice, but hard to do without losing too much money. 500 extra mb for every 2 years you’ve been on simple choice? Or some kind of discount on new phones?

    • longtimeCustomer

      How ’bout for every 2 years you have been with T-Mobile?

      • bkin94

        you’re probably right that that would be best. the thing is, some people have been around up to 11 years. for my proposal, that would be 5GB per month. someone could pay for the lowest tier, and receive the highest Data allotment. that wouldn’t be manageable unless there was some kind of cap.I suppose the same problem would apply in the future even if they did limit it to simple-choice. maybe a one time bonus every 1-2 years would be better. (stay 2 years and get a free bump to the next tier for one month)

      • Freddy

        I’m thinking per year.

    • neoxone

      A loyalty program sounds great. They can probably do it with some sort of points per month that you’ve been with T-Mobile. Then you can use those points towards discounts on phones, tablets, accessories or maybe even a discount towards one of your monthly bills

      • Trevnerdio

        My family would be rolling in it. Only took a 3 month break from T-Mobile once since 1999.

    • Freddy

      Loyalty program I agree. Like a certain percentage off each year of service to a max amount of 25 percent for example. They could start with 2% per year of uninterrupted service perhaps.

    • KingofPing

      Certainly. I would not be at all surprised to see something like this taking the place of their corporate discounts.

      Not everyone could get those corp discounts. A loyalty program would definitely be better.

  • jeff grace

    $10 far from raising prices …and that is for new customers, you still keep unlimited data no cap and unlimited minutes and text ,its only if a current customer wants 5GB tethering or hotspot that a current customer needs to worry. But come on taxes on other carriers add to way more than that. John Legere has given more than any carrier can ,and about to give more. Wait and see,things always turn out for the best. $10 is minor for faster LTE buildout and 2G/3G refarming of towers .

    • A harrington

      I also will gladly pay a little more for my 9 lines with T-mobile if they expand coverage and keep sticking it to the other carriers.

  • hanfeedback

    Not sure where else they could go as far a major move. However, I would like to see more reasonably priced 3G packages for international roaming or maybe faster speeds for international roaming. Domestic roaming being more lenient or at least the ability to purchase a domestic data roaming package although this will be much less of an issue with the LTE expansion. This and them following through with the LTE conversion of all EDGE areas are the only 3 real issues I could pick with them if I HAD to find something. Overall, I am thrilled Tmobile customer!

  • T-Mobile hasn’t been charging activation fees for months (close to a year? over a year? it’s been a while…)

    • jeff

      Ok will note that to Cam

  • lion7718

    I’d like to see a downloadable Wi-Fi Calling app, so I can add it to my Nexus 4.

    • bkin94

      Oh my goodness! Yes!a big push for Wi-Fi calling would be great!, but less important as coverage gets better. Wi-Fi calling is only needed if coverage is bad. Maybe it wouldn’t be wise to spend effort on that when coverage will (presumably) be better in the coming years

    • Jay J. Blanco

      Google would have to do that because it’s pure andriod. Unless they allow tmobile to tweak the software before they release it

      • bkin94

        they could put it in the app store

        • Jay J. Blanco

          That would be interesting to see how that works.

        • Trevnerdio

          It’s open source…I don’t see why not. People could most use it how they please, as long as they don’t cheat, of course.

        • kalel33

          It used to work. I used to run customer ROMS with the wifi calling APK app back in 2011.

    • TYLERDERK

      THERE ARE SEVERAL THAT I KNOW OF.
      DO SOME RESEARCH THEY ARE OUT THERE.

      • bkin94

        first, please don’t use all caps. it’s obnoxious.
        there are apps that let you text or call, but not with your normal phone number.

        • lion7718

          I’m guessing he’s another user that posts here that isn’t on T-mobile or he would know that.

    • Guest

      lolol at first I thought you were trolling…then I realized you meant Wi-Fi calling :D

    • Alex Zapata

      If you mean WiFi calling I’ve actually been curious about how they’d manage to do that. I think the idea of an SiP client would be worth entertaining, but authentication with the SIM might prove to be a challenge.

  • francobry

    I’d be happy if they joined the CCA Data Hub and eliminated domestic roaming caps. As mentioned below, even if it’s throttled, it’s better than burning through your allotment in a short amount of time.

  • BDestroyer8418

    Such bs can care less about this. They are taking away a corp discount I had on my account for years because they were paying people’s ETF it was the only reason I stayed so long since coverage blows when I go out of town. Even had family make the change to t mobile in last year so they can use there discount. I don’t use a lot of min I would like something for 100 mins or little less unlimited text and 1GB LTE for <$40 or less.

    • bdestroyer8418

      Sorry was suppose to be 1000 min not 100. Yeah I believe it’s 300 mins I use about 500 to 700 mins a month. I’m fine with changes only if we good things but come on take away all discount gov workers get enough stuff.

    • steveb944

      Well it’s a good thing you CAN care less ‘their’. And because we don’t get the discount, government employees shouldn’t either? That just doesn’t make sense, it’s just another one of their benefits.

      Seriously speaking tho, if you need the coverage go to Straight Talk with AT&T sim, it’s probably your best choice.

    • Willie D

      GoSmart offers what you want. And its on TMo network. In fact, its THEIR brand. Problem solved.

  • Jay J. Blanco

    I’m thinking better mobile broadband plans???

    • Boludo

      Not sure if you noticed, but they did get better. The cheapest plan got double the data and the rest got upped by 500mb. So they look more in line with the smart phone plans. I think they’ve moved on for now with those plans. It’s a little disappointing TMONews hasn’t at all discussed or even noticed this change. It’s not very new but worth pointing out.

  • Victor M.

    I bet you they introduce a plan almost like Sprint where you can add like 10 lines and everyone pays seperately.

  • galaxymaniac

    Uncarrier 5.0 will be the new face of T-mobile – number cruncher Brian Crankston .. John Legere will creep back into his X-Small Batman t-shirt from 1990

  • Jibin Dani

    How about simple choice plans with everything included.. For example, if you get a 4 line basic family plan, let it be just $100. No fees or other odd charges, and maybe even with taxes included! Just a thought.. Would be amazing and seems like an Uncarrier act.

    • REP

      If taxes are your issue you might want to contact someone in government
      about that. When you pay taxes to a carrier they DO NOT KEEP THEM.
      Just like when you pay state tax when you buy something that doesn’t
      mean that store keeps it they pay it to the government at the end of the
      year same concept. when the plan says 49.99 the carrier gets 49.99 not
      the whole 62.32 that your bill is.

      Good staring points are your congress representatives.

      The odd charges are FCC, state, federal, ect

      • Jibin Dani

        I understand that this is an issue regarding the government.

        You make it sound as if fees and taxes shouldn’t be the carrier’s problem and that this whole concept of a tax-inclusive plan is absurd and unrealistic. Honestly, I find this to be great and I agree. It is very unrealistic and it technically shouldn’t be the carrier’s problem.. That is what makes this a great idea for an Uncarrier act.

        P.S. It’s not like this tax-inclusive plan hasn’t ever been done in wireless history.

      • Matthew

        so why prepaid plans can be taxes and fees inclusive but not postpaid?

  • Aurizen

    My pain points is the extra taxes :/ But another pain point is in building penetration.

    • Boludo

      The in building service issue when it happens is a major reason why I feel T-Mobile should discount its rates considerably when compared to AT&T and Verizon. My employee discount went a long ways towards that end. Now it’s going away…

      • Aurizen

        well they are the cheapest carrier in the US. i think that’s a form of compensation. But I do see your point lol.

    • REP

      If taxes are your issue you might want to contact someone in government about that. When you pay taxes to a carrier they DO NOT KEEP THEM. Just like when you pay state tax when you buy something that doesn’t mean that store keeps it they pay it to the government at the end of the year same concept. when the plan says 49.99 the carrier gets 49.99 not the whole 62.32 that your bill is.

      Good staring points are your congress representatives.

  • tmo fan

    You guys just don’t realize that most people with the discount have it on there just because it was put on for them when the rep felt bad for them. It’s used to close a sale and not as a corporate discount tool. So to answer question TMO is not comparing themselves to Sprint but to Verizon and ATT and their prices are way more. You never see TMO advertise vs. Sprint!

    • Boludo

      So people that legitimately work for employers with legit employee discounts should no longer receive that legitimately earned perk because t-mobile employees inappropriately conferred that benefit to anyone… Yeah makes sense punish the customers for crappy t-mobile employee behavior

      Since you think you know it’s most, why don’t you just let t-mobile know which specific customers have that benefit inappropriately applied to their account? Since you think you know so much?

      • chris

        Fact, it’s used to close a sale…you find a large company with numerous employees that’s hard to check and has a good discount. I would say 90% of instore reps have done it – whether to close a sale, or to help smooth things over with an angry customer who missed something during onboarding…it’s an extra customer T-Mobile wouldn’t have otherwise.

    • Tmoemployee

      That’s not true. Corporate discounts and loyalty discounts are two completely separate things. The corporate discounts are going away. There is no way that a loyalty rep can apply a Corp discount for “feeling bad for them.” they have to go through an application and approval process before it’s added.

  • Don Kim

    Unlimited 4G LTE for MBB.
    Taxes and fees included in the rate plan
    $0 Down for everyone?
    Better coverage (They’re already on it)
    I think that’s about it.

    • JBLmobileG1

      If taxes and fees were included in the rate plan then I could live without having a corporate discount.

      • JBLmobileG1

        I am all for Unlimited hot spot too, but I doubt that would happen.

        • Eric00

          I’m not for that! I use 60+ gbs with my Home wifi connection. People would just use TMO as their home wifi and the network would be SUPER CONGESTED. Probably wouldn’t even be able to load a video.

        • Austin

          This is on point! someone asked me why its not unlimited tethering, I just told him, “so people like you don’t crap up my network like Sprint”.

        • Willie D

          People like him can’t crap up Sprint, they did that themselves with network management aka silent throttling and not replacing defective parts of their network.

        • Trevnerdio

          Exactly why they don’t use it. I’ve used nearly 350 gigs this month at my house. While I like to suck down the T-Mo data, I would never do that to them. That’s just selfish.

        • eneka

          If I could I would totally pay tmobile to be my ISP. I already pay $50 a month to time warner and more than often I still find myself tethering because the 4g is just so much faster..

        • jarrodpd

          Im somewhat more for a hybrid unlimited plan, throttle it in heavy congestion but if there is room on the network to support my iPad surfing its motherboard out than why not let me. Especially if they encouraged users to do data intensive things at night to keep updates off the network at peak times and also ensure even usage around the clock.

      • Willie D

        Then your issue isnt with TMobile, it’s with the local, state and federal government for taxing you for services you want.

    • Willie D

      I’ve an idea that a share tablet with your unlimited high speed data phone plan is coming soon. Both use the same unlimited data on two devices.

  • JBLmobileG1

    I know! It’s take away all corporate discounts!!!

  • jeff grace

    Eithier way T-Mobile will be cheaper than all, $10 hiccup in price for a faster build out and to support our T-Mobile is nothing. Quit wining about corporate discounts. They will find a way still save you money.You are not paying for ETF of people that come to T-Mobile. Other carriers have access charges of $40 or more just to use the plan you paid for ,both AT&T and Verizon do that and then charge un godly fees and taxes ,compared to the breath of air taxes and bill from T-Mobile. Sprint charges all this and a fee for having a smartphone and does not give you unlimited data they cap you at 2,5GB and slow you down they wont tell you that.Sprint new contracts go as far as ,you waive the right to a lawyer,to they.can change plan without consent of you, cancel service at any time ,even more so if you call customer service to much. And the other three charge 3x the cost for phones over time.If you trade in a phone you get billed for the month cost of old and new one even after full fullfillement of 2yr contract. So the gripes you have with T-Mobile price gouging or Corp discounts people come on..T-Mobile is the way to go.and our honest. Must be since all carriers are trying to copy it ,but never duplicate. .added fees when they do it to screw you. T-Mobile none the above trade in device start fresh,cheaper way better.

    • I’m With Stupid

      ROFL They will find ways to save us money after charging us more???

      • gperez

        They are for profit! What do we spec and they are improving coverage and speed.

        • Jason

          Obviously they are for profit…
          We should expect that they honor their self promoted “Uncarrier Movement”…
          TMo was in the red due to them stalling and being so late to upgrading their 3g and 4g data networks..
          TMo also doesn’t have enough native or reliable coverage to provide in smaller cities…
          Discounts are not even remotely close to the reason why TMo is in 4th place in the US market…

        • kalel33

          T-mobile has never had a quarter where they lost money, so they were always in the black.

  • Eric00

    Instead of throttling to 2G TMO should throttle to 3G. Oh, and the option to add up to at least 7 lines!

    • JBLmobileG1

      I am for throttling hot spot to 3G speeds.

      • Eric00

        Then that would make the 3G network congested and unusable though .. If their was no congestion I’d be all for it , bad sadly that’s not the case :(

        • Eric

          Not really, since T-Mobile keeps limited-data users on LTE, just software throttles to EDGE speeds.

  • Franco

    I would say add up to 10 lines at $10 extra per line!

    • eneka

      The business plans charge $20 per line for the 6th and on to 6000

      • Franco

        And how much is it for 5 lines???

        • eneka

          Pricing is exactly the same as non business plans.

  • Trevnerdio

    Off topic, but I wish they’d open a 2nd T-Mobile store in my county. They’ve tried two but it just hasn’t worked out because they’ve put them in the crappiest locations.

    Meanwhile, 3 or 4 MetroPCS stores have opened in the last few months in my area. Hmm…

    • p0nch0

      What area is that?

      • Trevnerdio

        Panama City, FL

  • Matt

    I’m guessing (and it’s a very uneducated guess) Uncarrier 5.0 will introduce the end to international voice roaming in many countries. If they did this, AT&T, Verizon, and Sprint are in for a world of hurt.

    • Willie D

      What is $0.20 not good enough?

    • archerian

      That might be hard as they have to share revenue with the local carrier in these countries. This might not be a big revenue stream for T-mobile, but it is for the roaming partner

  • Nearmsp

    How about charging international calling rates at the same rate as Google, which is 2 cents a minute to most of Europe. There is no reason an uncarrier should charge an arm and a leg rate for international calling. People will just use Google or other ways to call. Why not make a T-mobile phone the only device you need for calling and texting anywhere in the world!

  • dblock

    I just hope is something we can all benefit from,not just some of us

  • Gavriel Ostrow

    *all taxes and fees included.
    *should have the option to prepay or postpay on postpaid account.
    *tmobile stop paying etf’s and give all customers a monthly discount on our bill.
    *sprints framily option where each person on one account can pay their lines seperately whilst getting a group discount.
    *virtual number in two countrys so people can call you for free.
    My tmobile page revamped so that we have controll on how we roam, what features we want on. no more calling reps to do what we want.

    *two fake numbers like google voice but better
    * wifi calling becomes a open app
    * no limits on how many lines we can add
    * for more money, unlimited TALK,text and web roaming.
    * better roaming data packages… in israel its 10 GB unlimited for $28, why make me pay $50 for 500mb?

    * a better system to improve coverage in reported areas instead of waiting forever.
    * completely ditch 2g networks (in progress)
    * build VOLTE as fast as possible.
    * freeze my line for free!!!!! if i want to go abroad for a year why cant i keep my number for free?

    • Chris

      Uh? Did you not read how Google Voice works? Those aren’t fake #… Those are #s that are not taken and google is letting you use.

    • guest

      Dont know for Israel, but t mobile has 4glte unlimited 10 000 GB (ten thousand) data at full speeds for 20 bucks.The speed here in California 20-30Mbps on average and i personally have reached 70Mbps on Nexus 4.Uploads steady 15 -20Mbits. Waiting for Wideband LTE. Honestly i don’t know what to wish for the uncarerier 5 :) The roaming is the best in the world dude Unlimited data worldwide.

  • lordfarquaad

    Maybe they ran out of ideas and Uncarrier 5 will be the return of employer discounts.

  • kobe
  • Whatever was planned for UNcarrier 5.0, I imagine that it now HAS to address the blowback from the elimination of the corporate discounts. They can’t afford to not do some kind of damage control at the risk of effectively slowing if not eliminating all of the momentum they created over the past year.

  • Boludo

    So instead of saying I agree you decided to post his obnoxious unrealistic wish list? This give me, give me, give me, and charge me less less less or nothing for everything makes T-Mobile news readers look like idiots.

    Cam or moderator, feel free to delete my post and may I suggest you delete the idiotic one I’m replying to. It’s very spammy, because it just reposts another long message pretty much verbatim… may I add the original posting is kinda dumb.

    Hey Baz, I can help you with a couple free fake numbers. Use them to your full delight. They come with free unlimited inbound messaging and voice.

    Fake number 1: (555) 911-7079
    Fake number 2: (555) 411-0000

    • Willie D

      The only portion of this I see POTENTIALLY happening is a no line limit option. For OAC or deposit customers, the ability to add up to 10 lines.

      • eneka

        I wonder how much it would cost if they did. currently you can have two separate accounts under the same name with 5 phone lines and 2 mobile data lines each. We have 10 lines and had two separate accounts when we were on the em+ plans. We had recently switched over to the new simple plans and since we had a business we were able to open a business account. It’s pretty much the same price but the 6th line and on is $20 each instead of $10 aal charge.

  • photoguy225

    oh oh i know i would like to see me being able to keep my corporate discount!

  • Chris Hilbert

    Get rid of the 50 MB domestic roaming!

    • Hurlamania

      to 0 ? or you mean raise it? Thats highly unlikely you really thing at&t would let them do that or that att could even handle that load. when they finish the 2G to 4G LTE change over and add 700mhz this year and expand coverage areas that won’t be much of a issue any longer.

      • Chris Hilbert

        Raise it or get rid of the limit all together. It’ll always be an issue for some areas of the country. Large portions of the midwest are partner service areas. Look at the state of Iowa for example, they have coverage of maybe 5 to 10% of the state at best and the rest is a partner.

        • Hurlamania

          Iowa is like that because it is covered by Iowa wireless and T-Mobile decided to partner with them for their coverage in that region. cheaper than building it’s own towers. for the time being

        • Chris Hilbert

          T-Mobile actually owns the majority share of I-Wireless. Which is why I gripe about it…

        • Hurlamania

          blame the other US carriers for not giving access

      • kalel33

        T-mobile used to have unlimited data roaming until less than 3 years ago. T-mobile made that change because they didn’t like paying other companies for their customers roaming on their network.

    • xmiro

      not gonna happen, they all have stringent limits on data roaming

      • kalel33

        No they don’t AT&T and Verizon give unlimited data roaming and Sprint gives 250MB and even then they don’t cut off your data. It’s a soft cap if you exceed it too much then they might disconnect the account.

  • 21stNow

    I don’t know what would be on my wishlist. Maybe not being treated like I have the plague when I go into a T-Mobile store to buy a phone and I don’t want to use the EIP or JUMP!

    Wait, I think that I’ve got it. Make the device prices the same regardless of what plan you are on. T-Mobile should stop charging more for the device for customers on the Walmart plan!

    • Chris

      Find another store nearby. One of the stores near me that I used to go to started sucking. When I go there, some people would be texting and not talking to customers. What I did? I found a new store to go to and never looked back. So far all of my visits to this new store has been pretty great.

      • 21stNow

        I had a store that I liked. Turnover has caused this store to be like the rest of them now. I work to build relationships with the sales reps, but the reality of the retail industry means that I’m constantly rebuilding those relationships.

  • Ryanide

    Let’s hope it’s a new & improved “Corporate Discount” program that will ease the pain of losing what they took from us after several years!

  • JBLmobileG1

    You know what…. While I am upset about getting my corporate discount taken away, I am a loyal customer, and have been since 2004. While I don’t agree on every move that has been made over the years with Tmobile, I will say John Legere is the best CEO the company has ever had period. I will even go as far to say that his name and skills will go down in history as one of the greatest CEOs of not only the Wireless industry but of any company of our time. I have agreed with every move he’s made thus far, except the removal of corporate discounts, but I have faith in him that there is a reason behind it all and that it will be revealed soon. We all just need to give him a chance. He’s done us all well thus far and hasn’t let us down. There has to be more to it… He wouldn’t have built up the company to where it is today only to screw it all up. I say everyone just needs to hang in there, at least until his next move is officially announced. I truly believe great things will come if we all just hold out a little longer.

    • Manny

      They did reveal why they did it. The whole idea behind corporate discounts is pretty much the same as cheap insurance through an employer. Since you have guaranteed numbers on a large scale you can afford a 10-15% dip. The issue with this is that it isn’t consumer based rather, biggest numbers count. (Those were Tmo’s words.) And the issue would come in that only large companies could really attract big discounts because of their large employee base. With the new system the aim is for any company to sign up and offer reward cards to their employees to pay for phones and or accesories. So like, mom and pops can even offer good phone rates as a perk.

      • Jason

        I have a hard time buying that explanation….I think since they already wanted out of US market they are trying to drive up revenue numbers and hoping tmo stock rises due to increased revenue intake….Duestch Telekom wanted Softbank to buyout their US share but DT knows it will be rejected by US Gov….Being 4th in US subs with alot of empty areas and lack of spectrum/freq is proving to be tough to find a buyer…otherwise dish would have bought them out already….Softbank would of choose TMo over buying Sprint if TMo had more potential but in its current form alot of money needs to be invested to see any significant return

      • maximus1901

        Bulllllllllllll.
        “Mom and pops offer …”
        Mom and pops have nooooothing to do with the new rates. The $25 gift card is for everyone who buys a new phone.

      • kevin

        so they are taking away the company medical insurance discount and force everyone to the obamacare, since the company insurance is “unfair” to the mom and pops. That makes perfect sense, tmobile.

  • Tamer

    They need to join forces with smaller regional cell phone companies in making roaming deals to better their coverage in rural areas where they don’t have any coverage or weak 2G or edge at best. That’s the only thing Verizon and Att have over them which is coverage and lte speeds

    • Baxter DeBerry

      agreed, follow sprints footsteps a little..

    • Spanky

      “That’s the only thing Verizon and Att have over them which is coverage and lte speeds ”
      Correct me if I’m wrong, but, when it comes to a wireless carrier, aren’t those the two things that matter most?

  • kpb321

    I’d love to see them get rid of the extra taxes and fees that end up on the bills. Yeah I know that the government is ultimately responsible for creating those but nothing says they have to be added on top of the rates they advertise. Several MVNO’s, MetroPCS and I think AT&T’s AIO all include those taxes and fees in their advertised price.

    http://www.metropcs.com/metro/simpleplans

    If you want to take something from the smaller MVNO’s and remove something that annoys a lot of customers this would be it.

    I’ve also read that a lot of times they do end up keeping a portion of those taxes and fees and it doesn’t all go to the government.

    Coincidentally, this would pretty much offset the corp discount that I’m going to be loosing and yes I do legitimately qualify for the discount as I am still employed with the company that gets me the discount.

  • T-MO Sales Expert

    I work for t-mobile its gonna be add a lines for $0 not 10. Everyone will benefit from it and offset the cost for people who lost discounts and make life easier.

    • Michael

      Now that’ll definitely shake things up a bit.

    • JoeApple

      If thats true I hope they announce it soon because Im leaving if my 30% discount is gone.

      • T-MO Sales Expert

        a 30% discount? What company!?

        • RotaryP7

          Apple had 30% discount.

        • T-MO Sales Expert

          the highest t-mobile offers is 18% and Google is 18%!

        • RotaryP7

          Trust me I know. And like I said, Apple employees had or has until April, 30% discount.

        • JoeApple

          When T-Mobile became official they offered 30% for the first month and then lowered it to 15% now which it even still shows as 15% on the advantage site for Apple

        • JBLmobileG1

          Why did you say you are leaving if your 30% discount is gone and now you are saying it was for the first month only? I don’t get it…. and you work for Apple huh? Is that how you got hired too?

        • Metro Sales Assoc.

          I work for MetroPCS and I get 75% off my bill… :p

        • Joeapple

          They had a special if we signed up the first month so if you signed up the first month you got 30% anybody after that only gets 15

        • RobD

          Rotary I also know for sure that Apple Employees will keep their 30% discount. My friend works for Apple and verified it with t-mobile

        • JoeApple

          Apple

        • Insidertmo

          Apple will be keeping their 30% discount for employees…trust me I know. Actually I can guarantee this 100%. You are good to go if a Apple employee

      • D Nice

        I agree.

      • donnybee

        15% discount lost here. Now I’ll be right on par with AT&T pricing. Trust me, I’m already looking at my options.

        • gentleman559

          I left for AT&T after 5 years with T-Mo. Sad to say but my coverage is 1000 times better. I don’t like AT&T as a company but don’t regret switching especially since their no contract plans pricing is on point pretty much with T Mos pricing.

        • B

          gentleman559, can you please tell me what plans are similarly priced? Is it their Next plan?

          I’m thinking of switching too very soon since the coverage is getting unbearable (2G majority and massive deadzones encountered daily in my commute). Thank you.

        • gentleman559

          They have a new no contract plan. I have my own device already as does everyone else on my plan. I got 5 lines with unlimited talk, text and 15GB of shared data for $205. Plus I have a 18% discount off of that. Its not unlimited like T-Mobile but I was glad to let that go for better coverage. Plus they gave me a $100 bill credit for every line I brought over. So I have a $500 credit coming. Wasn’t a bad deal to say the least.

    • Nearmsp

      If I do not need additional lines, how would that benefit me? I will have to buy a phone from T-mobile and they will profit on that! That would be smart for them.

    • tmobile guy

      Will this include current customers

    • 21stNow

      I call April Fool on this one.

    • William Burr Winans

      So what your saying is when you add a next line it will be $10 cheaper for all plans?

  • RotaryP7

    What I would want; do what Metro PCS does, all taxes and fees are included, period. If anything, raise the prices $10 or increase the activation SIM card fee, just include the taxes to the plans. It’s easier to bring in people to T-Mobile if you tell them, look you’re paying $80 unlimited everything including 4G LTE no fees and taxes are included! Add a phone and pay the EIP monthly. Just pay all your taxes today.

    • Hurlamania

      I had a nice response typed out but lost it at the end. oh well perhaps later I will try to type it again…

  • Jared

    MAYBE we will be able to get unlimited throttled (or unthrottled) data in the USA, like we already have in Afghanistan!

    • guidomus_maximus

      Been there, done that

    • donnybee

      …really?

    • UMA_Fan

      Tmobile already offers unthrottled full LTE speed data.

      • Jared

        Not in Traverse City, MI. A meager 50mb.

        • UMA_Fan

          On network. Roaming wouldn’t count of course.

  • Hurlamania

    Well there may be a method to the madness… T-Mobile has stated they want to move people off pre paid plans which is easier to do these days since the plans are the same essentially at least in price structure. the issue they would have most resistance to is pre paid customers would pay more due to taxes and fee’s. that is a small price considering the partner coverage you gain but if T-mobile wants to make there post paid plans tax / fee’s included they would need to off set the loss by eliminating the current discounts. taxes and fees are roughly 10% so basicly the would be taking away 15% from a few to give 10% to everybody. just a thought theory.

    moving pre paid to post paid will allow them to use those numbers in their base moving the quickly closer to sprint.
    the fact is T-mobile doesn’t need to offer pre paid as T-Mobile the have metroPCS for that. If you are a customer on T-mobile pre paid and you most likely would be better on MetroPCS they have The same coverage and it’s totally unlimited is $20 cheaper as their other tier’s are cheaper as well.
    So eliminate taxes and fee’s, move pre paid to post paid. if they can’t move tp post paid move them to MetroPCS.
    most providers use this model or are moving to it except for the eliminating taxes that would be un carrier.
    Sprint use boost and virgin for their pre paid, att is moving in that direction with aio / cricket
    and T-mobile with MetroPCS

    • mloudt

      I wasn’t going to reply to this but the more I read the more foolish you sound. Your post is full with inaccuracies and wrong nesses to say the least. You start off saying pre paid users if they switched to post paid they would benefit because of partner coverage meaning At&t roaming well pre paid has been had voice and text roaming for years and recently added limited data roaming at the end of last year. Post paid coverage is a little better than pre paid and you supposedly get more data roaming. That reason alone gives pre paid subscribers little incentive to become post paid. Main difference between the two is on post paid you get Jump, EIP, and increase coverage in certain places and more roaming data.

      Next, you say more and more companies are going away from having pre paid branded plans no they not lmfao. Sprint recently re did their Sprint As You Go plans and At&t is keeping Go Phone but merging Aio into Cricket and Verizon re did their pre paid plans to All Set so wtf? The National Carriers are going to stick with branded pre paid and use it as a premium over their subsidiaries pre paid brands. Some people on pre paid don’t want Metro on their phone so no they aren’t better off on Metro some people want brand recognition.

      You can buy a good phone off Craigslist for a good price so if you don’t need Jump or EIP and it’s just one or two people then pre paid is a good option. Post paid is good for more than two lines for people who can’t afford to get new devices for the whole family so don’t post your idiot assumptions. Pre paid you don’t have all those extra taxes for like you said for basically the same plans as post paid so their is a need for branded pre paid. Metro Pcs doesn’t have data roaming by the way Tmo pre paid does just another incentive for Tmo pre paid customers to not want to be on Metro Pcs. Lmfao do us a favor don’t post ever again.

  • vrm

    Uncarrier branding has taken a huge hit this year- they need to come up with some other marketing gimmick.

  • Randall Lind

    200mb of data is like 5 mins LOL

    • JJCommonSense

      Five mins for free is more than what any1 else gives u.. and isnt it 200mb 4g? The rest would fall to 2g? So youd still have something, right?

      • Randall Lind

        I guess but, not a reason I would use to buy a tablet.

  • eanfoso

    Better indoors coverage is all I ask, I hate that in my school outside I can get full on LTE Outside, but inside I end up losing signal o.O and then I have friends with Verizon and at&t who just sit on full on LTE

    • Aaron Jaeger

      Once T-Mobile deploys the 700Mhz spectrum they recently bought from Verizon, indoor reception will improve.

      • eanfoso

        Do you know which areas will see this improvement? I have as understanding this was mostly north/ northeast US, I live in southeast Texas

        • Baz

          A coverage map was posted on this site back in January when the announcement was made. Check back.

        • Aaron Jaeger

          I saw a map which showed certain areas in eastern Texas would benefit. You’ll have to check for your specific area.

  • luvmytmo

    All I’m happy about is that by this time next year, all edge gone! Was also told by my TMO boss that John Legere stated that all profits from each store will be used to build towers in that stores area to improve coverage. Gives store incentive to do more to make more profits, thus improving the network! Sure that won’t start till 2015.

    • Paul

      Interesting idea to use profits to build towers in the area. I’m not sure how the rental fees will be covered via profits. Or what will happen if a store closes.

    • donnybee

      Those would have to be some hella good profits to afford that!!

      Better not tell anyone your company no longer gives corporate discounts!

      • Rdaex

        LOL.. yep, my stores 1300 bucks last month will sure help!

  • fsured

    Move all carrier loaded applications on phones to downloadable forms from the app market. If they want to fix bugs in them then it gets put on the market as updates like every other application. They can even release new application products and improve the ones they have faster to meet market trends. Include them in the sale of a new device to market their products but have the option to remove them if the customer chooses. Or at least deactivate them and have them hidden from view so that all the applications shown are the ones installed by the customer.

    Example:
    I don’t need to see Google Play Movies, a T-Mobile video service, then manufacture video service application.

    That makes 3 applications offering the same services. If they weren’t busy adding their own custom firmware on top of the manufactures then updates would come out faster to the devices. I understand they need to add whatever is needed to make the device properly work on their network such as radio firmware but extra stuff just slows it down. They also need to devote the same resources to approving updates for all devices and not just Samsung or HTC. If the manufacture releases fixes or software updates pass it on to the customers.

    Example:
    Xperia Z, still waiting on 4.3 T-Mobile!!!! Sony pushed back 4.4 to mid-quarter from a March release but the T-Mobile version of this device is still on 4.2.

  • im pissed.. taking away my discount.. may be losing me as a customer because of it..

    • JJCommonSense

      If u already have your discount, u can keep it…. calm down whoady!… hold up I just read the updated release…. not sure if im happy about that. This could be the end of my relationshop w/ TMO.. especially with AT&Ts new plans, which ill still get a discount on :(

    • Nurdface Gamerhandz

      Have fun getting shafted way more anywhere else… but at least you’ll have your discount off of massively overpriced service :)

  • JJCommonSense

    I hope they get the new galaxy tab or note pros.. id love to finance that thing via TMO instead of being fiscally raped by verizon

  • Bklynman

    They are going to back Carly and her bike. Or Maybe give the same prices as Metro Pcs.
    Metro prices about $10.00less than TMO.

  • Juan Pablo Darquea

    Uncarrier 5.0 Wii buy att yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes jajjajajjajajajjz

    • Spanky

      Yeah, that’ll happen!

  • donnybee

    UnCarrier 5.0: Introducing corporate discounts!

    That’s a good pain point they can now address..

  • Jephri

    8 to 10 line family plans

  • N1Ro

    I do not see any T-Mobile logos on the new Samsung Galaxy 5 and HTC One M8 devices. Maybe Uncarrier 5.0 will finally do a major cleanup and offer unbranded phones crapware free.

    In any case, I really like the fact I do not see the carrier logo on the new phones, I hope this is really the case for all new devices going forward.

    • Singleweird

      samsung would cease being a supplier to t-mobile if we didnt let them put junkware on. thats why they’ll never be a nexus supplier again.

  • GirlNextDoor

    With any luck, they’ll nix deposits.

  • macman37

    1 of the announcements may be that the iPhone will be on MetroPCS.

  • simple

    I was just improved and expanded coverage

  • Andrew

    How about including all taxes & fees in the advertised price? I’d happily give up my corporate discount for TRUE price transparency.

    • …just saying.

      that’s dumb, because taxes are dependent on where purchase is made.

      • Andrew

        I’m totally aware of that. However, as a example, different states have different levels of corporate taxation, yet McDonalds still features a $1 menu without including a bunch of extra fees tacked on (outside of sales tax). T-Mobile could just consider those taxes/fees as a cost of doing business and lobby the states against them, instead of passing them along to us lowly consumers who have almost no ability to pressure our representatives for relief. They already do that on their pre-paid lines btw.

        • tmolover21

          I would not be in favor of that. States and the federal government need those taxes and fees in order to operate, and if they don’t receive them, they would need to make deep budget cuts on necessary services.

        • Andrew

          There’s no reason cellphone service should be taxed more than any other normal item. The taxes/fees in some states add up to almost 20% more than the retail plan cost. That’s ridiculous.

    • Jibin Dani

      I agree, this would be great.

    • josephsinger

      Get prepaid! All taxes and surcharges included!

      • Brian

        that’s great if you only need 1 line. can’t do prepaid family plans.

        • Jason

          Straight Talk and Family Mobile have family plans i thought???
          Both carriers above use TMo in most markets also….

        • jej

          The T mobile prepaid lists the same rates for multiple lines as postpaid. Can anyone confirm if this is taxed like other prepaid plans?

    • Brian

      I couldn’t agree more. A major pain point between prepaid and post is the rediculious fluxuating taxes. I would even be ok with a flat tax per line idea. That way you don’t necicarily cut into profits by eating the taxes, but it makes the taxes budgetable and manageable. How about a flat $5 in taxes per line, no matter what state you’re in. Same bill every month, no matter what!

  • noone

    What about the plan changes? That could be uncarrier move, the 1 GB of free data.

  • Will

    The next uncarrier move should be TAX FREE on everyone bills. That will make sense since we are taking out the job discounts and such. TAX FREE MOBILE UNCARRIER 5.0 ftw.

  • mreveryphone

    It should be to remove all bloatware and let the consumer choose what carrier branded apps they want on their phone!! Does anybody use T-Mobile TV?

    • josephsinger

      Get an iPhone. No bloatware. Bloatware only happens when there’s collusion between carrier and manufacturer. Apple won’t stand for it. Same reason you don’t see “Intel Inside” on Macs.

      • mreveryphone

        I’d rather have bloatware than have to own any apple product… except for the nano…

        • josephsinger

          Hey, get what you want! If you enjoy bloatware good for you.

        • mreveryphone

          Yeah I don’t enjoy it hence my first post but I loath apple products even more

        • josephsinger

          It’s always easy to say “I loath” and not give any reason for I loath except for the Nano. I don’t “loath” anything. There are things I prefer, but I’m not one to loath.

        • mreveryphone

          I’ve owned an iPhone didn’t like the fact that I couldn’t make it my own or use widgets which I prefer, as well as Google now. Those are my reasons…

      • Jason

        Apple is the draconian opposite of bloatware in which its a closed eco system and 99% is pay to play….ick

        Apple also inflates the price of “their” hardware inside their devices so the same specs are half the price on windows…

        Bloatware in some cases are manufacture’s trying to add there touch to standout from other manufacture’s products….

        Removing all would make it less innovative but i agree with op that end user should be able to choose…
        You can root if the device is android and either delete or freeze/hide apps that you would like gone….

  • Steve_NYC

    I’d like to see them offer WiFi calling on iOS devices.

    • Jason

      I agree but wifi calling is buggy at best for myself….
      If I’m not within 15ft of router calls drop worse than normal phone calls….
      Also you’ll have errors sometimes with sending sms/mms, where it refuses to send and you have to turn off wifi calling and then enable it again to get a chance to send it….

      Atleast put wifi-calling architect out so developers at xda could tinker around to enable it on all devices and/or improve it

      • Rdaex

        Im fairly certain that wifi calling is a hardware feature, not an app or software. Someone can correct me if im wrong

    • FluX

      Works perfectly on my T-Mobile Shadow (look it up :P).

    • jj64012

      Wifi Calling on any T-Mobile phone. Surely they can bake the necessary files into an app and put it on the play store and the appstore.

    • chris Tmob RSL

      ios is getting this with 8.0

  • Joeapple

    John just twittered we get to keep our discounts more to follow tomorrow

    • Wow!!! I thought this was a late April Fool’s initially but you’re right. I just checked. I can’t believe our protests appeared to have worked. Kudos to everyone on this site that contributed to this reconsideration in any way (e-mails to TMO, phone calls to CS, letters to tech news sites, tweets to Legere and co., etc.). You all rock.

  • vrm

    increase throttled speeds to at least 256 kbps, preferably 512 kbps.

  • sushimane

    I wish they would give us a choice of doing 0 down or down a certain amount to get a lower monthly payment. I know 0 down sound really nice and it is but sum people want a lower monthly payment just like a car payment. For example a xperia z1s 0 down 25 dollars a month for 24 months but if u down 270 the monthly payment is 13.75.

    • ummm

      You can do exactly that.. pay as much as you want up front…the down payments are just minimum amounts due

      • sushimane

        When I tried to do that at the store they won’t let me. I was trying to grab the z1s but they only offered me the 0 down. I guess I had to talk to sum other sale rep.

        • John

          Even if they tell you to do 0 down, you can pay off as much as you want either online or over the phone at one time. Your monthly payment will then be the balance divided by the number of months remaining!

        • thepanttherlady

          Unless something has changed, the only time the monthly payment amount will change is with a larger down payment (the more down you put the lower your payment). All other payments will only reduce the amount of months left in the EIP, not the amount of the monthly payment.

        • TMOTECH

          That’s funny because my mom put 200 down on her nexus 5 and her payment dropped from 20 to 8.

        • thepanttherlady

          That’s what I said, right? The more money put down will lower the monthly payments.

        • Chris Tmob RSL

          extremely late I know, however, you can pay whatever you want for the initial down payment (as long as it is MORE than what you’re approved for) This will lower your monthly – If you put down an extra “$100” it will change it to whatever exact amount it needs to make 24 payments of the same amount. like 98.92 (this is a random # don’t fact check it) Now AFTER that point, any money you pay will knock off how many payments you have left. the final payment will adjust to an obscure amount if an entire payment amount is not paid (ie: your monthly payment is 24 x $20 and you only pay $13 – you will have 23 payments that would be $20 and your final payment would be the remaining $7)

        • thepanttherlady

          3 comments up I said the same thing.

        • matt

          Wrong just reduces number of months left

        • Steve R.

          In stores it may be that they won’t let you pay more than the “$0 down” offter, but online you can choose how much you’d like to specifically go towards your phone. So you technically could buy your new phone and afterward go online and pay a larger sum.

  • shatter

    Raise the throttle from 2G to 3g, 2g sounds unappealing.

  • jeff grace

    Good news. Tomorrow we will announce that current corp customer employees can keep their discounts. New plan will apply to new customers.

    — Mike Sievert (@SievertMike) April 2, 2014

  • Jason Anderson

    Is this a troll and bait post? If they were just thinking of pulling off of discounts completely why would they discount every family plan?
    You stated make it fair for everyone yet you think its fair to deny individual plans discount? Individuals can shoulder the bill due to lack of kids is just laughable at best…..What about Jon Doe who’s living on a pension or say even just social security? Besides what does kids or how much one can shoulder figure into cell phone plan prices when their are many alternatives that are cheaper?
    Did you also want TMo to give everyone s5’s for free so everyone can experience the same google experience? Well of course everyone but individual plan holders haha

  • Jason

    I hope uncarrier 5.0 is a release saying TMo’s going to stop addressing every change as uncarrier insert number here!

    Also it would be great if TMob hides the chip on the shoulder until all the network upgrades are finished.
    Maybe give Jon L. a 2-3-4 week vacation for all the progress he has pushed and give him time to brainstorm..

    Instead of verbally attacking other carriers, manufacturers maybe come out with a honest assessment of TMo themselves and sell the future plans of coming to same level of network coverage while still being lower priced and fairly priced…
    Even Verizon had to get rid of the “hear me now guy” lol

    My gut instinct says 5.0 was the discount removal with the claim that it was for being fair for all customers
    PLease prove me wrong TMo…haha

  • juan

    Is it me or is the indoor reception getting better

    • mreveryphone

      No its not just you, I’ve noticed it too…

  • Gabriel Martin

    The BEST 2 UNCARRIER 5.0 announcement:

    * INCREASE throttle speed

    * OFFER same ADVANTAGE DISCOUNT to everyone irregardless of where they work:
    INDIVIDUAL PLAN – $10 discount/credit per month
    FAMILY PLAN – $20 discount/credit per month

    SAME TREATMENT for everyone and it is very SIMPLE & easy to understand…

    We are wishing that these will be the one they will include in the UNCARRIER 5.0

    Have a great day to y’all

    • Steve R.

      Or just having the price with all taxes included would probably be cheaper for them, and therefore more realistic. By the way “irregardless” doesn’t exist, it’s just “regardless”

  • longtimeCustomer

    I wish they would offer limited minutes (1000) and unlimited data to lower price point.

    • Jason

      There was one for the Value plans…..That ship has now sailed :(
      I have 1000 mins for $50, family text for $10, and then unlimited data for $20 on two of the lines…
      I couldn’t believe that people weren’t jumping on board with TMobile back then, $100 for three lines of service, unlimited data for two….

      Now when i try to add data for the third line, I don’t even have a choice for unlimited data only tiered….

  • Tachyonic Cargo

    A bill that actually makes sense when you read it.

    Yes, I have the Simple Choice plan with four lines on it. But the bill is still a complete bitch to understand, despite the simplicity of the rate plan.