[UPDATE] Simple Choice plans changing to add more data, new $80 unlimited tier, now including Stateside International Texting

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Today, T-Mobile announced that its $50 flagship Simple Choice plan will be offering more value for money than before. It’ll now give you double the 4G LTE data, and double the tethering as well as unlimited international texting.

For $50 per month on Simple Choice, customers signing up will get 1GB of data at LTE speeds which can be used for tethering or use on the device itself.

Simple Choice customers still start with one line at $50 per month for unlimited data, talk and text on our nationwide network – but will now get a full 1GB of 4G LTE data and tethering – double the previous amounts. Customers can still add a second line for $30 per month and up to three additional lines for $10 per month. Those additional lines also get the extra 4G LTE data with these changes.  

As before, Simple Choice customers can always add more 4G LTE data to each of their lines. They can opt for 3GB of 4G LTE data, including tethering, for an additional $10 a month per line (vs. 2.5 GB previously), or 5GB for an extra $20 a month per line. There is a new unlimited 4G LTE option, which now comes with a full 5 GB of tethering, double the previous amount, for an extra $30 per month (vs. an extra $20 previously).

Customers will also be able to send text messages abroad from the U.S. as part of their plans without being charged any extra. You’ll be able to SMS friends and family in over 120 countries. As well as being able to text from the States to abroad, T-Mobile is increasing the number of countries included in the unlimited text and data roaming. The list now includes 122 countries and destinations.

As for time frame on these changes:

The new benefits will begin immediately on March 23 for customers who choose to run credit and take the postpaid option. For those who prefer not to run credit and opt for prepaid service, unlimited international texting will start on April 26.

As for those on the unlimited 4G LTE plans, yours will stay exactly the same unless you opt for the new unlimited plan with twice the tethering.

For more information and the full press release, hit T-Mobile’s newsroom.

[UPDATE: Just to explain a few things a little more simply. 

In essence the old system of having three Simple Choice plans is going away. Or rather, we're getting an extra tier. Instead of having $50, $60 and $70 offering 500MB, 2.5GB and unlimited 4G LTE respectively, we're going to have $50, $60, $70 and $80 offering 1GB, 3GB, 5GB and unlimited. 

70 dollars per month will not get you unlimited data at LTE speeds anymore. Instead, you'll get 5GB of data and tethering. Previously, the unlimited plan only included 2.5GB of tethering allowance. The new $80 plan will give you unlimited data at LTE speeds with a generous 5GB of tethering as well as the Stateside international texting. 

Now, if you're an existing $70 unlimited customer, you don't get automatically switched to the new plan. You can opt in to pay the extra $10 per month, but only if you want to. 

Existing customers on the existing Unlimited 4G LTE plan (or who sign up before March 23 for it) will be able to choose to stay on that plan (by taking no action) or they can switch to the new version with more tethering for just a few dollars more per month.

Of course, all Simple Choice plans will offer Global Text and Data (as they do currently), but the list is growing to 122 countries worldwide. Not just 115. And they will all feature unlimited Stateside International Texting. So you can text abroad from the States.

Mike Sievert has written a full post breaking down all the changes in plain English. So, check that out here. ] 

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  • zx6guy

    As an unlimited user this will cause me to reevaluate Tmobile. The additional tethering does nothing for me as I’ve never gone over before. Maybe if Tmobile committed to upgrading the extensive regions of 2G I could support this but as far as I can tell I get nothing for paying more.

    • ATG

      your unlimited option stays with the same price even with the new pricing unless you switch to the new plan. You still get the unlimited int. texting.

      • JBLmobileG1

        Yeah but it unlimited LTE at the old $70 price? The reason I even jumped to my current phone is to take advantage of the 20 X 20 LTE. If this means having to pay an extra $10 to take advantage of it, that’s BS.

        • syxx

          Your plan isn’t changing JBL. Keep your $70 unlimited data 20×20 LTE. TMO isn’t changing existing plans. If you WANT to get extra an extra 2.5 gigs of tethering you can “upgrade” to the new $80 plan. Otherwise make no changes and your plan stays the same.

        • JBLmobileG1

          Hopefully your right. I use quite a bit of data on my phone and I know, from past experience, when you you are throttled to 2g speeds you can’t do much at all when it comes to streaming music or Youtube. Plus updating apps takes forever. If To bile were to offer Unlimited tethering for $10, then maybe, but for just another 2.5gb…. I’ll pass.

        • syxx

          If you are that concerned about it call 611. While they may not be the best to answer every question they can certainly confirm that TMO will not change your plan, and that you will be grandfathered come the 23rd.

          I am 100% sure that they are not changing existing plans. The press release even specifically says that you can stay where you are. The confusion comes from the fact that the new $70 plan will not be unlimited data, but your old plan will stay the same as long as you don’t change it.

        • zx6guy

          I suggest you all re-read the update above.

        • Moby

          You don’t have to pay an extra $10 for LTE. Why make up such things?

        • JBLmobileG1

          I am not making up anything. I am just trying to clarify the current, or older $70 Unlimited data Plan, with the $80 plan. The math is a $10 difference. If you read more of the posts, it seems that there is a lot of confusion and not just from me. I was just trying to confirm that Tmobile wasn’t going to take away my LTE and force us to actually pay the extra $10 for the unlimited high speed data plan Which Is shown above. I’ve been in this boat before…. had unlimited data with 3G years ago, then was capped at 5gb so after that my data speed was 2g. Then the truly Unlimited plans came out which they said wasn’t capped. I just wanted to make sure they weren’t trying to pull that stunt again that’s all.

        • Ryanide

          If you’re already on the $70 Unlimited plan, you can stay on that plan without changing a thing. You don’t have to up it to the $80 plan, unless you want more data tethering.

        • JBLmobileG1

          I know, thanks Ryanide. I was just responding to Moby.

        • JBLmobileG1

          P.S. If you remember that even though your high speed data WAS capped at 5gb you were still considered to have unlimited data but it was 2g and super slow. Then Tmobile later released the data plan that was truly unlimited with no data caps. You obviously haven’t been with Tmobile long enough to remember this.

        • Moby

          Yes, I remember that. However those plans were never called truly unlimited as in unthrottled.

          If you had bothered to read the blog that Cam linked to by Chief Marketing Officer, Mike Sievert, he said:

          “Existing customers on the existing Unlimited 4G LTE plan (or who sign up before March 23 for it) will be able to choose to stay on that plan (by taking no action) ”

          So I really don’t see how there is any confusion on this topic at all.

    • Moby

      You’re not paying anymore. If you already have the $70 unlimited plan, you can keep it. What part of that did you not understand?

  • Hurlamania

    There really needs some moderation on this and well other discussions but this one for sure , a lot of mis information and confused people giving incorrect answers it’s out of control

    • syxx

      Amen

  • Dakota

    ATT has announced price cuts on their 2gb plan too (but not sure if it includes subsidy or just bring your own phone or att next)…cnet reports its a $15 drop from 80 to 65 a month

    • xmiro

      it includes both $40 or $25 device attachment

  • Guest

    If you already have the $20 truly unlimited data with 2.5gb of hotspot and like it, then don’t change (plus addition of int texting), unless you want more hotspot. Currently the $30 unlimited data comes with 4.5gb of hotspot but with new plan you get 5gb of hotspot.The benefits are mainly for the low-end users (which I expect TMobile to steal a lot more customers from prepaid services and MNVO. For $50 you get talk text+int text and 1gb of data and shared hotspot is pretty amazing. Same with the $60 plan with 3Gb of data

    • archerian

      speaking of MVNOs, H20 Wireless offers the same features as the $50 Simple Choice plan for $40, and runs on the ATT network. For $50, its 2GB data and $40 worth of international calling credit, unlimited international texting etc. etc. T-mobile plans would be economical only for family lines or for frequent international travelers.

  • The Truth

    So T-Mobile is raising prices more-or-less across the board. Not a surprise, after last quarter’s horrific financial results showed that they’re more “Unprofitablecarrier” than “Uncarrier.”

    Why would I want a $50 1 gig plan from a sub-par carrier like T-Mo, when Verizon’s 1 gig plan is $45?

    And the price increase for “unlimited” shows that T-Mo will likely drop it soon, as their network is already starting to buckle under the demand for spectrum. When T-Mo does drop unlimited, their customers will certainly be able to leave, but they’ll be stuck with bills that are higher than what a carrier charges for an ETF, due to the higher cost of the phone. A masterstroke of marketing to squeeze even more cash out of their customers’ pockets!

    As always, T-Mobile’s offering is crap. If I want the best network on a metered data plan, Verizon is vastly superior in coverage and performance and at a lower price. If I want unlimited, Sprint is a safer choice (since their unlimited is guaranteed for life) and their network has more LTE coverage (as well as the Spark thing). And AT&T is becoming more price competitive too.

    • Moby

      Your post contains a lot of false info. Verizon’s 1gb plan is $60 per month compared with $50 for T-mobile. For $45 on Verizon you only get 250mb AND they charge you an extra $15 for each additional 250mb. What a rip off.

      In addition, T-Mobile is giving people with $50 and $60 plans MORE data so that is NOT a price increase across the board as you are falsely claiming.

      And raising the price on unlimited data just means it’s a popular item that they can sell for more money. Since their LTE network was recently ranked as the fastest by Ookla with user performed speedtests, their network hardly shows any sign of buckling as you falsely claim.

      Now that I’ve exposed your lies, you can go add up the overage charges that Verizon charged you on your last months bill.

      • Nivek

        Well said, I’ve had all 4 carriers. I prefer T-Mobile. It’s the only carrier that works at both my house and office.

      • The Truth

        Wrong.

        Verizon’s ALLSET plan is contract-free, offers 1 gig for $45 or $50 per month (depending on which option you select), and is on a real, quality national network.

        T-Mobile’s price hikes are just evidence that they can change anything, at any time, without warning. You do business with them at your own risk.

        And I’ll see your “overage charges” and raise you “actual coverage in the suburbs, cities, and inside buildings” — all areas where T-Mobile has trouble.

        • Eric00

          You do realize those Verizon ALLSET plans are limited to 3G, right? And as we all know, Verizon 3G is as slow as T-Mobile 2G. Therefore T-Mobile is the way better deal. More data and you get LTE.

        • http://about.me/daylondeon Deacon

          LMAO . gotta love the trolls. you do realize you’re perfectly ok to stay with Verizon right? no one is forcing you to switch to TMO.

        • maximus1901

          By the way, if you love allset plans so much, whom do you think you should thank? Verizon’s generosity?

          TMO is the reason why you have allset. And if TMO’s lack of coverage were really such an issue, verizon wouldn’t have bothered with allset.

          Double pwned

        • Moby

          The ALLSET $45 smartphone plan only has 500 mb. To get the extra 500 mb, you need to spend an additional $5.

          My T-Mobile LTE speeds are faster than Verizon LTE speeds—so much for your “real, quality, national network.

          And I have coverage wherever I go with T-Mobile. And I can use any GSM phone I want—I’m not locked down to just the phones Verizon wants to sell with their bloatware.

        • UMA_Fan

          This just hasn’t happened in the industry where something has been drastically taken away. If you were running Tmobile, and keep in mind these are smart people running Tmobile which has successfully got att / Verizon in full panic mode and sprint in desperation mode, it wouldn’t be worth the bad press and customers leaving to change rates for old customers or take unlimited away. Tmobile said they will grandfather and honor all old plans and that’s frankly no surprise.

      • Luther

        Go Moby go Moby go Moby go lol. Tell em lol.

    • philyew

      Utter nonsense.

    • syxx

      Don’t feed the troll.

    • loopyduck

      >Sprint is a safer choice (since their unlimited is guaranteed for life)

      The guarantee is that some form of unlimited will exist. No guarantee is made about pricing or any other terms. Sprint might be nice enough to grandfather your pricing plan after your two-year contract runs out… or they might raise the price $20 and tell you to take it or leave it. Grandfathering has always been a matter of courtesy for the major carriers, not a customer right.

      • philyew

        Carriers have the right to change terms to the disadvantage of their customers, but there is normally a clause in the contracts (where they exist) allowing the customer to leave without paying an early termination fee. TM certainly had such a clause.

        Rather than a courtesy, grandfathering allowed the carrier to maintain their contractual hold on their customers. Without contracts, it just makes sense not to alienate your customers too much when they can walk at any time and the company is trying to grow.

    • UMA_Fan

      T-Mobile knows if they change people on unlimited to a higher rate or take it away that customer will leave. They are not stupid. You on the other hand…

    • KlausWillSeeYouNow

      I wish T-Mobile paid me to post things on their behalf like Verizon clearly pays you off to do.

      Ill-informed, ill-conceived, and an obvious sellout. Go back to Big Red.

  • eneka

    Question: Is this also applicable to Simple Choice Business plans as well?

  • Fr0stTr0n

    To those complaining of the price “increase” Welcome to the business world and business, is a bitch.

    • archerian

      yes, and the good thing about this business is customers are free to take it wherever they please..

  • Passive_Gladiator

    My concern is I love my $70 prepaid plan and never worrying about going over my data allotment. This makes me think that the $10 price hike is a bit too much for a young guy like myself but $70 is the sweet spot. Should I make the jump to the 70$ Postpaid account just to future proof myself with the added benefits of data and travel? Plans have come to mind of going out of the country the past few months for me and I would hate to miss out on grabbing it while I can, plus I do believe I don’t have roaming included on prepaid so that’s also not a plus either. Thoughts?

    • archerian

      Other than extra FCC/911 fees, the postpaid plan would be a better choice, you could offset some of it via some corporate discounts.

      • Passive_Gladiator

        Huh, sadly my company (Destination Hotels and Resorts) Does not support T-Mobile when I wish they did. Hmm, I might as well make the jump to postpaid if that’s the case, any fees or changes that I need to worry about?

        Also, My father is on Verizon right now and I have been trying to convince him to come to T-Mobile, Would it be easier to be on a Postpaid account that way so I could add him to my account seamlessly?

        • archerian

          Prepaid doesn’t have a family option, the benefits of having two lines are much more with a Postpaid account as the second line is only $30 instead of $50, it might be the $20 extra your dad could use to finance his new phone if needed. So moving to postpaid will be a better choice if you plan to add a line later.

          You don’t need a corporate discount from your employer alone, and it doesn’t have to be you, I mean if your dad is joining, it can be his discount and it applies to the whole account. Check the full list of companies, you might find you are a member of a fraternity or organization. I’m not sure if AAA still gets discounts, but there are other organizations like AAA, the PTA etc. that can be applied towards the discount.

          Regarding fees, you will have a $1.61 FCC fee, a few dollars for E911 and a few more for State/Local taxes per line. E911 and state fees depends on your state and city.

        • Passive_Gladiator

          Hmm, I’ll definitely be thinking about this and inquiring my dad about it as well! Thank you very much for the info!

    • Moby

      Yes, if you may want the international benefits, you should get it before the 23rd.

  • Gustofwind

    I have the $70 unlimited everything plan, but with a Samsung galaxy s3, which is not an lte phone ( they did not offer the lte model at the time.) So will I still be grandfathered into unlimited data since its not Lte?

    • The Truth

      Nope. Your price will increase to $80 monthly when you switch to an LTE device. T-Mobile can also change your pricing at any time, and if you don’t like it, you can leave — but you’ll have to pay the unpaid balance that you owe on your phone when you do so.

      On a high-end device like the Galaxy S4, you could be looking at $500 or more in ETFs.

      • thatguy

        WRONG, you can keep your plan the way it is by not doing anything, continue on your EIP or start a new one, it literally says so right in the article…
        “Now, if you’re an existing $70 unlimited customer, you don’t get
        automatically switched to the new plan. You can opt in to pay the extra
        $10 per month, but only if you want to.

        Existing customers on the existing Unlimited 4G LTE
        plan (or who sign up before March 23 for it) will be able to choose to
        stay on that plan (by taking no action) or they can switch to the new
        version with more tethering for just a few dollars more per month.”

        • Gustofwind

          Thanks for the explanation

        • Jay Holm

          What if I upgrade after 3/23, will I be forced to the new $80 plan when starting a new EIP?

        • Guest

          No

        • susank

          EIP is just a phone purchase program (credit card to buy phone basically)…it is NOT a contract of phone service. Your plan is grandfathered (unless you want more tethering). You can stay in the $70 unlimited 4g.

        • Moby

          Why would you even ask such a ridiculous question? Of course not.

      • Moby

        You have no source for your statement ” Your price will increase to $80 monthly when you switch to an LTE device.” This is just something that you made up.

    • syxx

      The truth is delusional. This isn’t Sprint. The fact that your phone doesn’t connect to LTE is the only thing keeping you from connecting to LTE. When you upgrade to a newer phone your plan won’t change. TMO will grandfather you in if you make no changes after the 23rd.

      • Gustofwind

        That clears it up, thanks!

  • GreatNews

    Let me get this straight, I am currently on the $70 unlimited everything plan if I chose not to upgrade to the $80 plan will I lose the ultimated or it will be grandfather plan and stay unlimited?

    • syxx

      grandfathered if you do nothing.

      • GreatNews

        And stay with Unlimited, right?

        • syxx

          correct. Nothing changes. You will belong to a unique cool club consisting of other grandfathered unlimited TMO customers. Yay US!

        • GreatNews

          Thanks

        • Tina

          Grandfathered until you decide to buy a new phone and finance through EIP that is. After that they will make you Simon up for the new plans. So if you want to keep your Grandfathered plan, It’s bring your own device or buy it outright from now on. See how things are slowly creeping in to make them more carrier like, instead of uncarrier? First Jump changed, now unlimited data ( which by the way they always slowed you down after 5 Gb anyways) Now they got ya, the changes slowly good in just like any other carrier.

        • sillytina

          Tinais clueless. A they dont force u to change anything when buying a phone other than offering PHP/jump if you dont already have it. B the unlimited data is UNLIMITED LTE i use well over 13 gigs a month and speeds checked the entire month ifu are on old legacy from a famlytime or get more plan and not value or simple choice then ur 5gb state is correct, but only then. C if u have old jump u keep it once again no force to change. UNcarrier an going strong!

        • KlausWillSeeYouNow

          Go back to Sprint, Tina. You’re completely wrong.

          Don’t give advice if you don’t know what you’re saying.

        • Luther

          I replied to her and told her that she was wrong. I have never been throttled, not once and I have used as much as 14 gigs of data without an issue. This is why I’m with T Mobile.

        • Stefan Naumowicz

          They aren’t going back to carrier, carrier would force current customers to switch too. Changing the cost of a plan is sometimes necessary to adjust for cost of service, inflation, and other economic factors. What good would uncarrier be if it went out of business?

        • syxx

          I’m on an old plan and just financed a Note 3 through EIP. We didn’t even have a conversation about my plan.

        • syxx

          Also the truly unlimited high speed data has no data cap and they only have a problem if you are using it for crazy purposes like 100 gbs a month. That might violate the terms of service.

        • Moby

          They have never said that you will have to give up the $70 unlimited plan if you buy a new phone. This is just something that you’re making up.

        • shadlom

          Personally i have a 4 year old even more plus plan and I was able to get the nexus 5 tru eip without even moving to simple choice and i did it all online without speaking to a rep.

        • Luther

          I’m currently at 10.4 gigs and I’m still getting over 35mb download speeds. I have never been throttled, ever. I have the $70 unlimited plan. I don’t know what happened with your speeds but you miss informing others and so I had to chime in an correct you on the slow speed comment.

        • Nurdface Gamerhandz

          wrong, plan is completely separate from EIP, I’ve had people put phones on EIP with MyFaves plans. Since the EIP is decoupled from your phone plan, it doesnt touch legacy upgrade eligibility, plan grandfathering, etc. Also, unlimited doesn’t throttle at 5 GB on any plan but the online/walmart only text/data prepaid plan. I used 47 GB of high speed data between 8 lines last month, 20 on my main Android phone, and never saw speed reduction. Please check your facts before you talk out of your ass.

    • sidekicker89

      You will be Grandfathered. You will keep your 2.5 GB of tethering but I think they will automatically add the free International texting.

  • Stefan Naumowicz

    Are the regular (ex. phone bought from Wal-Mart or other store that doesn’t support simple choice) prepaid plans going to change too or just simple choice?

    • Tmobile Rep

      Pre Paid will be changing too, however the plan you already have can be kept and you dont have to change

      • $15454173

        T-Mobile Rep or any rep who sees this can jump in: This is off topic I think. I am on JUMP and can get my next phone in June. I plan to trade in my Galaxy S4 and ask for a cheaper phone. Any unforseen problems with that? Nexus 5 or cheaper phone.

        • T mobile Sales associate

          You can JUMP! to anything you want, including the cheapest phone in the store…

        • $15454173

          Thanks!

        • Nurdface Gamerhandz

          you can JUMP to anything, your EIP payments then change to reflect it. So if you JUMP to the Nexus 5, your bill will go down, or if you JUMP to the Note or the iPhone or the LG G Flex, it may go up

  • Paul

    Just to clarify:
    A phone won’t change your current plan.

    This of us that are on $70 unlimited are not being forced to the new plan. If you buy a phone you will not be forced to the new plan.

    To get the phone you need to not have an outstanding balance on a previous phone, and you need to have a plan-you already have a plan.

    If you are a new customer then you won’t get the $70 unlimited, and will get $80 unlimited.

    • maximus1901

      What if you add another line to your account? Can I keep my $70 unlimited but the new line would only be able to have the $80 unlimited?

      • syxx

        You keep your $70 unlimited and the new line can choose from current offerings. If you do it before the 23rd you can get the $70 unlimited on the new line. After that date you would not have that option.

    • Nurdface Gamerhandz

      you don’t even have to not have an outstanding balance. I have three phones on my main line because I’m too impatient to finish paying them off. You just have to, at some point within your EIP timeframe or before you break ties completely with T-Mobile, pay off all phones on your plan, and your EIP credit is limited by number of lines and your credit class.

      • Paul

        ?? My understanding is you can only have one outstanding balance on a phone per line.
        1 line – 1 EIP phone balance.

        • thepanttherlady

          My understanding is you get a set $ amount per account that you can’t exceed. At least that’s the way it was.

        • Paul

          I’ll have to inquire about this-not that I need another phone but to know.

        • thepanttherlady

          My oldest daughter has 2 EIP’s on her single line account and my other daughter at one point had 4 EIP’s on a 3 line account. If they give you a $1000 limit (just throwing that number out there as an example) and you already have an EIP on a $700 phone ($0 down) then you only have $300 towards another EIP. That means you’d have to pay the difference of the “new” phone up front. Hope that makes sense.

        • Nurdface Gamerhandz

          Nope, as long as you have the credit for it. You just have to pay for both.

  • timmyjoe42

    Does switching to a simple choice plan from a no contract postpaid plan require getting into a 2 year agreement?

    • NObody

      No. If you buy a phone on an installment plan you will have to pay the rest of the phone off if you switch carriers.

    • Moby

      They don’t have 2 year agreements anymore.

      • sushimane

        Not if ur still under the value plan like me. 74 dollars that’s with insurance unlimited data, text,500 minutes but I’m grandfathered in. Which I’m happy I can still upgrade after I pay off my phone

      • timmyjoe42

        Thanks. I was just checking, because when I switched to my value plan, they made me sign up for a 2 year agreement to get the great price. Now the pricing is even better, I just have to watch the high speed data.

  • marko90

    So I’m getting a $10 rate hike and this is good news??? (from $70 to $80)

    • susank

      EIP is just a phone purchase program (credit card to buy phone
      basically)…it is NOT a contract of phone service. You plan is
      grandfathered (unless you want more tethering). You can stay in the $70 unlimited 4g.

      • Jason Crumbley

        Tacos.

        • Guest

          Wrong! Nobody is making anyone switch to anything. You buy your phone at full price, put it into payments, and your plan stays the same unless you want to switch. The choice is yours

    • Eric00

      Your rate is not going up. Your rate will stay the same. Read the other comments, it’s not very hard.

    • Moby

      Why are you getting a rate hike? The article said: “Now, if you’re an existing $70 unlimited customer, you don’t get automatically switched to the new plan.”

  • Jason Crumbley

    I don’t like that they are raising the price of unlimited, but giving the other two plans more for the same money. Then giving people that want to pay $20, less. Don’t be evil, T-Mobile.

    • syxx

      Prices go up. At least we are grandfathered in to our price. I still can’t understand how my satellite bull goes up while I am under contract.

      So stay with your unlimited for the same price. Someone said you might get more tethering but I am not sure.

  • Thanks

    I have 5 lines with T-Mobile and I like the fact that each line has its own data. When we had AT&T, the data was shared, and sometimes the kids used most if not all of it. Plus it was costing us $290. Now it’s 50+30+10+10+10 which is $110 minus a 15% discount and each of us has our own data which is going up to 1GB of high-speed instead of 500MB for the same price. If the kids use all their high-speed in one day, that’s on them. Facebook, iMessage, Pandora, and other low-data apps work just fine on 2G/EDGE once they’re throttled, which is all I get once I leave Scranton anyway. Voice calls are crystal clear on 2G and regular texts work well.
    GRIPES! – Darn right I have some! Entering a building loses LTE and drops to EDGE, EDGE is in rural areas (T-Mobile needs to eradicate this, 3G at least), coverage needs to be increased alot.

    • syxx

      I totally agree about coverage. I have several friends who ask me about tech related purchases, but despite being a TMO customer since Voicestream I have to give lots of disclaimers when I talk about coverage. Price is a difficult conversation without subsidies but that one is actually fun to have. Especially with my friends who kept their Evos running for 3+ years.

    • Paul

      Your gripe is echoed by many. There are plenty of articles as of recent that inform us of their, soon to start, exapntion of coverage.

  • sailracer

    What are the additional 7 countries with free data and text coming to simple choice global? Afghanistan is one and the other 6? Hoping for Bahamas….

    • ThePhantom

      Afghanistan, Guam, Honduras, Macao, Uganda, the Canary Islands and San Marino

      • sailracer

        Thanks Phantom… The list is definitely growing… awesome – even if the Bahamas is not yet included (t-mobile charges $3.59 a minute for calls and $15 a MB for data in the Bahamas – very ugly, especially when compared to $0.20 per minute and free data in the 122 other countries)….

    • hanfeedback

      Phantom has them right, Im hoping as time goes on well see that list grow and grow. Im also hoping they drop the price of the 3G data somewhat.

  • _Pavel_

    t-mobile website while configurating family plans with $70/unlimited+2.5GB tethering states:

    “Sign up today and double your 4G LTE tethering (Smartphone Mobile HotSpot). Beginning March 23, 2.5GB becomes 5GB, for the same price.”

    so if i’m reading this correctly if i sign up for $70/month plan today, comes March 23 and my tethering becomes 5GB for the same price…

    • Paul

      NO!
      If you sign up for the $70 plan as of right now, you will only get 2.5. You can opt into the new $70 plan on March 23rd. The new plan only has 5Gigs of 4G LTE data, unlimited 2G data, and the 5 Gigs of tethering.

      It shows it in the image embedded in the article.

  • Enzowned

    When did tethering become free? Is this also announcing this? Or did I misread? =P

    • Hurlamania

      it’s been free almost a year now you get a certain amount free based on your package

      • Enzowned

        Ah, never realized! Thanks.

        • Hurlamania

          What plan do you have? I should make clear you need to be on a simple choice plan.

        • Enzowned

          Yeah Simple Choice, signed up when they first started rolling out like Oct ’12. Though it may not have been called that at the time? I remember it was priced 40+40 for first 2 lines, then additional $5 per line, +10 for data. Only have data on one line… Actually now you can get data free on all lines right, I wonder if I have to do anything to get that now. Like update the plan… =p. I should ask them sometime.

        • Hurlamania

          you seem to have a older plan I would recommend looking into changing your plan by the 23rd . you get unlimited data on all new plans the simple choice $50 $60 but only a portion is 4g the rest is 2g if you get the current $70 plan you get total unlimited 4g.
          it is $30 to add a second line and $10 for the 3rd, 4th and 5th. then add data. so 2 lines would be $80 both would have unlimited data but only 500mb 4G will be 1gb on march 23rd plus international texting and global data ( you will not get any of these features on your old plan u have , if you want more 4g you can pay $10 or $20 per line currently to add more or not and get 2g speeds

        • Enzowned

          Yeah I’ve been meaning to switch to get the free data on all lines, just haven’t gotten around to it. I also didn’t really track any of the other changes they’ve made since I signed up. We only really need more than the basic free data on one line, the rest will do with 1GB (awesome for free). Was that $60 a typo? Otherwise the rest of the pricing seems the same. Except instead of $40+$40 for first 2 lines is now $50+$30. The $5 per line I got initially was only like a 6 month promo anyways. Thanks for the info.

        • Hurlamania

          for $60 it is the $50 plan that with 3gig instead of 1gig high speed
          so if you get 2 lines one basic one with 3 gig its $90 BEFORE TAX if you want one unlimited 4g it’s $100 before tax if you want both with just 1 gig it would be $80. that $100 package will go up to $110 if you get it after the 23rd. so if you want that one buy before the 23rd to save $10.
          Your welcome anytime

        • Enzowned

          Ahh, I get it! haha. So if I want unlimited on any line(s) I should get it now, before the 23rd. However, if I do that my other lines will be stuck at 500mb free, and I can’t get the 1gb… Decisions, decisions. The unlimited I probably don’t care enough about. However I know a friend that may and will let him know. Thanks again, appreciate it very much.

        • Hurlamania

          No, on the 23rd you will automatically have the extra 500mb added and get the 1 gig total if you buy now or later you just will be signing up for 500mb at the moment.
          the only rush would be if you wanted an unlimited data high speed get it before the 23rd or pay $10 more after the 23rd.
          that said you get a better deal if you switch your plan to simple choice. 2 phones with 1gb each high speed and unlimited 2g that 1 ggb will share as hotspot data if you need you get global text and roaming, and stateside international text all for $80

        • Enzowned

          Ah, wonderful. Great stuff indeed, will make sure to switch before then!

        • timmyjoe42

          Hurlamania, I’m not understanding your response. If I move my 5 lines over, here’s my take:

          Currently, I have 5 lines, I pay $80 for the plan, $10 for the first, $10 for the second, (with unlimited everything (nothing international) $5 for unlimited international texts on 1 line, then for the remaining 3 lines, I pay $15 each for unlimited text + data, and 500 minutes of talk.= $150 (I believe each line is capped at 2gb of 4G)

          If I switch to the Simple Choice today, I’ll get: 5 lines with unlimited talk + text + data (capped at 500mb of 4g) = $50 + $30 + $10 + $10 + $10 = $110

          If I switch to Simple Choice on or after March 23rd, I’ll get 5 lines with unlimited talk + text + data (capped at 1gb of 4g) = $50 + $30 + $10 + $10 + $10 = $110

        • sjxi1948

          Your scenario does not have any unlimited 4G data so there would be no price difference before or after the 23rd. I believe what he is saying is that if you are interested at all in unlimited 4G for any of your lines, sign up before the 23rd because the price will increase by $10. However you will get double the amount of tethering at the higher price point. If you find you need double the tethering, you can always change it later.

        • Hurlamania

          the current $70 unlimited will up to 5gb tethering so if he waits he would be be paying and extra $10 to get what he can have now for $70.

          ” I believe what he is saying is that if you are interested at all in unlimited 4G for any of your lines, sign up before the 23rd because the price will increase by $10″ (Correct)

        • Hurlamania

          he is on a old rate plan not a simple choice plan so he doesn’t have all the features and data and is paying $150 a month, no mater if he switches now or then he will drop his bill $40 and get more…

        • Hurlamania

          If you switch today you will get what you said for $110 500mb on the 23rd you will automaticly get the extra 500mb without doing anything and you will get the stateside international texting.
          if you sign up after the 23rd obviously the extra data is in place so the plan will now be advertised as including 1gb and stateside international texting.

          The only change is the total unlimited 4G plan will cost $80 on the 23rd up $10 from todays rate. if you have the $70 rate your fine if you think you may want unlimited 4g in the future get the plan b4 the 23rd at the lower rate

          you will also get the global data and texting right away if you switch to simple choice.

          $150 is way to much save some cash get more stuff

    • Paul

      You only get a certain amount, 2.5Gig with the $70 unlimited.

  • Hurlamania

    I see the same thing it appears the system will be treating the current $70 plan the same as the new $80 plan just a different price based on your purchase date. that makes sense and would be easier for them to do in their system. Kudos T-Mobile

    Now they need to do some free add on promo’s like free caller tunes , caller id, **me, international calling.

    “Sign up today and double your 4G LTE tethering (Smartphone Mobile HotSpot). Beginning March 23, 2.5GB becomes 5GB, for the same price.”

  • Hurlamania

    I think there needs to be a new article to clear this mess up, this thread is wild with confused people.

    • Paul

      Because people don’t know how to read the “Update” or scroll down in the comments area.
      Most of the questions have been answered.

  • nemosan

    2.5gb of tethering on the $70 unlimited plan? since when? i’m on this plan and all i have is 500mb!!! should i be making a phone call? why wouldn’t it had gone up automatically?

    • gilligan156

      T-mobile will never change your plan without your instruction/permission. Since the unlimited with 2.5gb tethering is a new SOC (sc2unlhhs, the old 500mb one was vunl500hs) you need to call or swing by a store and have them change it for you. No big deal!

      • bob90210

        Except they just did change every simple choice plan (or will on March 23). That’s what this whole post is about.

        • sloanie

          You still have to request your plan to be updated, even if your rates don’t change. These “new” plans are for people who change plans or new customers. There’s no automatic update (i.e., the lines on my plan that get 500mb right now will continue to get 500mb data until I have T-Mobile manually move them to the 1gb version of the plan.) I had to do the same to get the boost from 500mb tethering to 2.5gb tethering on my unlimited plan, even though the cost didn’t change.

        • bob90210

          “Simple Choice customers will get all these added benefits added to their plans automatically, so there’s no need to change anything about your current services or rates. No calls. No forms. No hassle. It just works.” – Mike Sievert, T-Mobile Chief Marketing Officer

        • dju1947

          I agree for the move from 500mb to 2.5 gb of tethering you had to call, but for this Mike says you don’t need to do anything, it’ll just work.

        • philyew

          Did people on the Simple Choice unlimited smartphone plan get the same upsell message when they approached the 500mb limit, prompting them to call in, as was supposed to happen for those on the mobile hotspot bundles?

        • Hurlamania

          Does anyone ever read anything or think before they type!!!
          and i’m not just singling you out sloanie don’t take it personally

          everyone will automaticly get the upgraded features and data without doing anything it is now on I believe 4 official sites stating this fact in plain simple english…

        • sloanie

          Apparently I skimmed. Totally happy to be wrong and learn that T-Mobile is doing this automatically– historically this has not been the case. Thanks!

        • Hurlamania

          they are adding features for free, they are not taking stuff away or changing your current price

      • Hurlamania

        have the correction made before march 23rd or you wont be able to… it will no longer be a system option and you would have to change your data plan to the $80 plan to keep unlimited and get 5gb of tethering

  • Randall Lind

    I called T-mobile and talked to a rep name Tony and he said people on the $70 unlimited plan are being grandfather in, The only way I would pay $80 according to him is if I change my plan.

    • philyew

      Which confirms what is written in this article and the blog from Mike Sievert which is attached.

    • Hurlamania

      the only way your plan price can ever go up is if you change plans you signed up for a $70 plan you will always pay $70. same with any provider, your locked in. they can however modify aspects as they did in the past when the forced people on unlimited data to have a 5gig high speed cap. nicely the didn’t do that this time.
      but the fine print states unlimited data plan can end at any time thats why sprint did the unlimited for life, to one up T-Mobile.

  • f1ip

    i bit the bullet and switched to the Simple Choice plan. have 4 lines total with one @Home router.
    I was on a Get More 1000, with 1 line on 5GB, and the other on $5 preferred, 1 line has No data. Total was about $110 before discount and tax

    Now im paying $120, all lines have data, even the @home, haha. 1 line has Unlimited data. Only switched it because of the international texting and i’ll be traveling as well.

  • B_Eng

    Now if only they’d increase the domestic roaming data allowance, I’d be really happy. They can strike unlimited agreements with global partners, but I’m still tied to 50MB of domestic roaming. Let’s get this fixed!

    • philyew

      The difference is that the domestic roaming agreement emerged in the break-up terms with AT&T, after their takeover attempt failed. AT&T were paying a fee which essentially enabled TM to emerge as a real competitor.

      One of the few things that AT&T will have had real leverage with and no incentive to be more generous was the cost of roaming on their network. After a year of sustained Uncarrier marketing directed squarely at AT&T, they will have even less incentive to improve the terms of the deal.

      Since high roaming fees can quickly wipe out the profit on a monthly subscription, I wouldn’t think that there will be any changes in the roaming allowance for the foreseeable future.

    • Jeffrey Wang

      Not just that, unlimited roaming only includes throttled 2G speeds, 3G speed “data passes” still costs lots of money. philyew is correct, however; the domestic roaming agreement was made due to the failed acquisition.

  • karipay

    Can someone enlighten me with my current simple choice plan.
    1st line – unlimited T&T and unlimited data ($20)
    2ndline – unlimited T&T and 2.5 GB data ($10)
    3rd line – unlimited T&T and 500MB ($0)
    With the new simple choice plan, will my 3rd line get automatically jacked up to 1GB while 1st and 2nd lines remain the same?

    • Aooga

      The 1st one will stay, the second will be bumped to 3GB, and the third will go to 1GB.

      • karipay

        Thanks!

    • hopeithelps

      Just called them about this as well, similar situation, applying the reps logic to your plan would mean, 1. keep unlimited data and hotspot gets upped to 3 gb, 2. gets upped to 3 gb, 3. gets upped to 1 gb

      • karipay

        Called them up too after Aooga gave the info. From the info the representative gave me, my plan will look like this on March 23rd.
        1st line – Unlimited T&T and unlimited data and 5GB of mobile hotspot.
        2nd line – Unlimited T&T and 3 GB of data that can also be used as mobile hotspot.
        3rd line – Unlimited T&T and 1GB of data that can also be used as Mobile hotspot.

        Hopefully this gets followed than what the other rep told you (5gb vs 3gb of hotspot for the 1st line)

        • Aooga

          Yup. Thats what I said :)

        • Hurlamania

          according to T-Mobiles website karipay is correct the current unlimited goes from 2.5 to 5 smhs basically. think of it this way, everyone with a current $70 plan is getting the $80 plan but only paying $70

  • Matt

    I’m hoping that this won’t trickle down to MetroPCS folks. I’m loving my 60.00 per month unlimited plan.

  • steveb944

    With these new plans I’m going to be making some changes and save quite a bit of money! Woo hoo!

  • Mike

    So, my bill cycle ends March 26th. I will be over 5GBs because I have unlimited data. Does this mean for 3 days left of my cycle, my data is tethered, even though I paying for unlimited 4G LTE? TMOs

    • raysfan1985

      No, you are grandfathered in on the old unlimited plan and nothing will change.

  • mike

    I meant throttled…

  • james

    Just curious… Hav’nt seen this discussed yet. Does anyone here know how the stateside international texting might work? I’m looking at it from the perspective of someone in another country… Would my cousin in Mexico get charged by her phone company for texting with me? Thanks!!!

    • TKSLC

      It would depend on what their carrier charges for international sms.

    • Jon

      for international texting if you recieve you do not get charged the person sending is getting charged by their carrier. Since your a tmobile customer you wont be charged for sending once this plan is in place. Unless your friend in Mexico has a similar plan with his carrier in Mexico where they wont charge him for sending you a text, he will most likely be charged but i cant really speak for the rules on his carriers side.

  • aznknightz17

    If im on Classic 1000 minutes $50 with + data line 1($20) + Unlimited text ($10) + additional line ($10) = $90. Second and third has no data. What would I be paying if I wanted truly unlimited for line 1 and order by the 23rd? I understand talk and text is now unlimited.

  • http://navas.us/ John Navas

    Translation: We’re losing money from buying market share, and we can’t keep that up, so since we don’t really want more unlimited plan subscribers, that price goes up.

    Unlimited Simple Choice was already more expensive than unlimited Prepaid, $80 ($70 plus taxes and fees) versus $70, and now unlimited Simple Choice is even less competitive, $90 versus $70.

  • daya

    Where can I find the list of countries that I can text to for free from march 23rd. Is it the same countries that is currently included in stateside int. call and text plan for $10?? Please some let me know. ty in advance.

  • pirka

    This plan change is not enough. I just checked AT&T and Verizon are getting into price war with Tmobile. Tmobile need to be more aggressive i think. Just few weeks ago att and verizon pirces were pretty high…now its just $10 diff. (if u have one or two phones per line) Yeah i know they dont offer unlimited data but most people are average user and they dont need unlimited data. This price change has me thinking of switching to verizon. But im saving little more than $10, about $20 – $30 because i have 4 phones on my tmobile account.

    Two lines with 2gb data with iphone 5s

    $200 down for phone.

    Tmobile: $80 (plan) + $20 (phone) + $20 (phone) = $120

    Att: $40 (plan) + $40 (phone) + $40 (phone) = $120

    Verizon: $50 (plan) + $40 (phone) + $40 (phone) = $130

    Price difference is almost same if you want 6gb of data for two phones. So, my point is either tmobile need to get into coverage within 2014 to rural areas and highways or get more aggressive with pricing. Im happy with any of these two.

    Or, let softbank take care of it. They have the money, and technology. Softbank in japan is awsome and i dont have any doubt mr. SON will let anyone play with this company. (like what has happen sprint/nextel at the moment or past) I have seen his interviews and used softbank in japan. He knows what hes doing and he wants to be number 1 telecom in US and on his journey to be number 1 we as a consumer will only benefit. (his company becoming #1 is a different discussion)

    If anyone disagrees with me then please comment. I would love to hear it. But before you do watch Mr. SON’s speech in washington DC that he gave last week. Its on softbank mobile english website on top right corner.

    • pirka

      Also people with free time on their hand. Google: charlie rose interview masayoshi son. and watch his interview on bloomberg.

  • k

    I was wondering if there is a list of all the countries we can text to, now. They mentioned a list over 120 countries, but I don’t know a single one.

  • Jaxon

    Existing simple plan do they get the unlimited international call or not?

  • Mansgame

    This is a step backwards for T-mobile. $70 unlimited LTE was a sweet plan. the 5 GB plan is bs at $70.

  • Tom C

    80 bucks for unlimited 4g is crazy why not have a 50 dollar unlimited 4g 100 min talk