So, You Are Disappointed T-Mobile Didn’t Get The HTC One X? You Shouldn’t Be.

Let’s just get this right out of the way to clear any up confusion and more importantly, to stop the complaints I see popping up in the HTC One S post comments. The AT&T version of the HTC One X DOES NOT have a quad-core processor, it has a dual-core processor. So yes, it appears to be a better phone, but with the exception of battery size and and screen size, they are almost identical handsets. AT&T’s press release clearly says they DID NOT get the quad-core model:

“… The HTC One X smartphone’s next-generation 1.5 GHz Qualcomm Snapdragon™ S4 dual-core processor allows customers to run heavy duty tasks such as creating and editing homemade videos smoothly without any lag, while the 1,800 mAh embedded battery offers hours of uninterrupted entertainment time. …”

Everyone got that?

So let’s take a look at some tests the boys over at AnandTech performed and I take their tests with absolute faith, these guys are good at what they do:

Moving down the lineup is the HTC One S, but you don’t give up performance (in reference to the One X) to get here. The One S trades in the Tegra 3 or MSM8960 for a Qualcomm MSM8260A, another Krait based 28nm SoC but without integrated LTE. The CPU cores in the One S also operate at up to 1.5GHz, making its performance identical (in theory) to the HTC One XL.

The body moves from plastic to aluminum and drops in thickness to a mere 7.9mm

The screen shrinks compared to the One X/XL down to 4.3-inches. The Super AMOLED (PenTile) panel features a 960 x 540 (qHD) resolution. The front facing camera drops to a VGA resolution, while the rear facing camera (and lens assembly) remain unchanged from the One X.

Battery capacity drops to 1650mAh (6.105Whr @ 3.7V), but power requirements should be lower as well thanks to the smaller, lower resolution screen. Like the One X, the S features 1GB of LPDDR2.

Storage capacity drops to 16GB of eMMC on-board but you still do get 25GB of free storage via Dropbox. 1080p is supported on both the video encode and decode.

So yes, battery size changes, the screen size is different by 0.4 inches and yet, for the most part, with this paragraph as evidence, performance hardly changes between the two devices.

I urge you to head on over to the AnandTech link at the end of the post, read the post and hit the charts at the end to see actual performance scores.

AnandTech

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  • J-Hop2o6

    Exactly. The US versions of the S & X has the same Qualcomm S4 chip (XL = 8960 / LTE & 42 HSPA+ | S= 8260A / 42 HSPA+), which is actually better than the rush to market Tegra 3. Also (not tested) HTC states that the One XL (not sure on the Global S version) has AWS support for both LTE and 42 HSPA+. So take note of that.

    • http://twitter.com/Serotheo Simon Yu

      What’s the difference between the XL and X? just the Processor?

      • Anonymous

        Normally for htc XL indicates a much larger screen, but in this case its HTC^x L (L standing for LTE capable).  The XL has a different cpu than the european/asian X, Qualcomm Snapdragon S4 Dualcore vs nVidia Tegra 3 Quadcore.

      • Wilma Flintstone

        the “L”

      • Duck Dodgers

        From reading HTC’s spec pages between the AT&T ver. (XL) and the Euro ver. (X) it looks like the X has 32GB of eMMC on-board. Where the XL has only 16GB. With no microSD card to me 16GB is not enough.  

    • http://www.facebook.com/superg05 Jeremy Washington

      the Tegra b3 has be tested ad has already had one hardware revision and that’s before it was released

      • J-Hop2o6

         Huh? Im saying i’m not sure if the Tegra 3 version has AWS support.

        • Anonymous

          no AWS support I think

  • Jamal Adam

    It would have been nice if it had a 720p display. But aside from that, this phone is drop-dead gorgeous. 

    • Anonymous

      but it does have amoled by the way..

      • David McClellan

        amoled, but pentile. Think Atrix 4G….

  • Elvis

    No David, I don’t think most of us loyal tmobile customers r disappointed at not seeing the X, but instead frustrated at the lack of high end phones from other top manufacturers.

    I take this Xperia s for example. The phone doesn’t have LTE and relies on snapdragon, so u know its in line with tmobile’s tech model. The thing has the design to attract impulsive first time customers, something tmobile desperately needs; and it’s fairly priced at MSRP of $550 I believe which typically turns into $200 with provider discount.

    AT&T has already acquired the exclusivity to that phone’s US version, the Xperia Ion. Why isn’t tmobile doing anything in The meantime?

    • http://pharaohtechblog.blogspot.com/ Conan Kudo (ニール・ゴンパ)

      Because Sony Mobile (formerly Sony Ericsson) doesn’t make many devices with AWS WCDMA on-board. The last one it made was the Xperia X10i back in 2010, and that one never got released in the Americas. You had to import it from Europe. Asia didn’t even get that model. The Americas and Asia/Oceania got the Xperia X10a.

    • http://tmonews.com David

      If I were T-Mobile I wouldn’t take any risks on Sony Mobile phones…they haven’t done very well at all in the US, I’m not surprised T-Mobile isn’t going for them.

      • Elvis

        Well, I was just giving an example there. But Xperia s is currently selling like crazy abroad, and sony phones have attracted huge amount of attention in MWC, so tmobile needs to observe and adjust quick, getting phones from Huawei (btw, it looks like “prism” is most likely the Ascend d quad) is not going to get it done.

        Now I understand that relative to tmbile, AT&T certainly has alot more financial flexibility to acquire exclusive models like the galaxy note, but tmobile needs to hedge once in a while as well, look at what the g1 accomplished for the magenta back then?

        • http://pharaohtechblog.blogspot.com/ Conan Kudo (ニール・ゴンパ)

          Well, the Ascend P series and the Ascend D series all have pentaband HSPA+ radios, so they’ll work on T-Mobile just fine.

        • Anonymous

          What are the chances the one with the extra long battery is the upcoming Prism?

  • http://pharaohtechblog.blogspot.com/ Conan Kudo (ニール・ゴンパ)

    The HTC One X for AT&T has only 16GB of storage, just like the HTC One S for T-Mobile. Also, the front camera is the same on both, since the front and rear cameras are part of a single component on the phone. The only differences are in the screen and the battery.

  • Lee

    I read on the official HTC site that the battery is embedded (non-removable), and no microSD storage. GSGIII FTW.

  • http://twitter.com/SParKlngCyaNide SparklingCyanide

     the *Hotness**!! Even tho this isn’t 720p I still don’t mind qHD for one
    more phone PLUS the design of this imo is so much Sexier and sturdier
    than the One X with the very same Killer Processor and I like the 4.3″
    screen size better than 4.7″. T-Mobile went with the right decision to
    carry the lighter colored version with the baby blue accents around the
    camera, very attractive. – )

  • Taron19119

    Im real happy about this phone

  • Ridingonfumes04

    Yeah smaller screen? Really?
    Yeah I’m still disappointed

  • http://twitter.com/Serotheo Simon Yu

    I really prefer the One S design. But you have to really consider the intention of Beam in ICS was to further push NFC, moreso than Gingerbread did with the Nexus S; and that is disappointing to me that the One S is missing out on that, I don’t mind that its not 720p, qHD is a step up from WVGA on the G2x.. plus its Super AMOLED.

  • Anonymous

    I’m just gonna buy the global version. Should work with T-mo…

    • http://pharaohtechblog.blogspot.com/ Conan Kudo (ニール・ゴンパ)

      Global model of the One S won’t work (UMTS 850/900/2100, no UMTS 1900 support), but the global (quad-core) model of the One X will work once PCS HSPA+ becomes more widespread (it supports UMTS 850/900/1900/2100).

      • Anonymous

        And that’s the one I’m getting!! (One X)

  • Anonymous

    The only thing that is annoying me is that both S and X does not have a physical shutter key. Also, let’s hope that the T-Mobile One S would have the same radio as the ATT One X, because that thing has AWS for HSPA+ and LTE.

  • Anonymous

    This is as much of a replacement to the Sensation and Amaze as the Blaze is to the SGS4G. End of story.

    • Wilma Flintstone

      Oh you straight snappin huh?
      Grabbin da mic
      about to start rappin huh?

      Well let me sit ya down
      listen close
      don’t play around
      While I tell you a little story
      about this place called SouthTown

      See, apparently
      it was hard to clearly speak
      because the company
      had some trouble with their frequencies

      But then they saw results
      that made them clearly see
      that something had to be done
      about the 3 and 4G

      Too many people left
      they were sick of Edge
      GPRS slower than
      going uphill on a wooden sled

      So people packed up
      Jumped ship fast
      Got up and told TMobile
      Kiss .. …

      Now Tmobile’s getting it
      they finally understand
      Nobody likes paying for 4G
      when they really on an EDGE Plan

      Now they Deploying LTE
      in the next year
      Finally they starting
      to see things clear.

      OOH, Straight Ripped it!!!!!

      • guest

        gayest post ever

      • Anonymous

        Nice!  Tell em like it is yo!

  • http://cosmicbreeze.tumblr.com/ DtheArtist

    It is a secy device thou

  • Guest

    You guys really need to stop worrying about things that really don’t matter. The battery size and screen size is different, so what. The world isn’t coming to an end!

  • Steebie

    No disappointment here! Sounds like an awesome phone…oh wait…I do have some disappointment…that I couldn’t wait and just got an Amaze 4G

    • Vim

      The Amaze actually has some advantages over the One S. 

      1) Non-Pentile Display
      2) NFC
      3) SD Card Slot (Up to 32GB)
      4) Removable Battery
      5) 2 MPix Front Camera

      I do think the One S is the better phone in many ways (most especially due to the krait s4 and the larger rear camera lens), but not across the board.  Some important corners have unfortunately been cut.  I don’t care about the front camera, but the rest I care about.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_CYQUMMC7Z4UBLSHQAJGNJBKVPM JamesS

    No microSD slot = big disappointment. The cloud is worthless when I’m at work and when I’m flying… oh, and when the network is down or choked or you’re getting throttled because you keep using the cloud and go over your monthly data allotment. No, the cloud sucks.

    • Wilma Flintstone

       I don’t understand why these companies make these high end phones and forget to put in an MicroSD Card slot.  Thats the ONE reason I’m not interested in the Galaxy Nexus.

      • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1142720567 Joseph Lagalla

        According to some, the MicroSD can actually slow down the phone, though i think that more internal memory is needed to make up for it

  • Jonday21

    I don’t see what’s so different about this and the Amaze, hopefully unlike most of the amazes, it will teather!!! I still think out of all the phones coming to Tmo that the GS2 is still the best, until G3 comes out. I like HTC but not dropping another $300 for a phone no different than amaze.

  • Anonymous

    but the screen size and res are what attracted me!!! didnt realize the x was plastic. ew.

  • Wilma Flintstone

    Nope, not at all.  Waiting on the Optimus 4X HD.  That should hold me until Tizen launches to the consumer.

  • now_onTMO

    nice phone.. really interesting especially the samoled screen… htc just got better.. :) 

    s4
    samoled
    4.3
    qhd

    nice specs..

  • now_onTMO

     still waiting for tmobile to reveal t999.. hopefully soon

  • Malcolm Wilson

    and no “SD card slot” for expandable storage. Dropbox doesn’t count.

  • BigMixxx

    I ain’t gonna bitch much about the device. 

    I truly appreciate the fact that T mobile and HTC still have a good relationship.  I’m so hyped that it’s not samsung (although they have been produced some damn good phones).

    Really, why argue about not being top tier.  It’s in the same category as the current galaxy S II ( current top dog on t mobile ).  I’m digging this……however…I’m not a sense fan, although I own a sensation(and it runs virtuous inquisition close to ASOP as possible and there is a 4 release 4 it).

    nutshell, really impressed with this version…if things end up going the way of the T, it may not matter….

    • Wilma Flintstone

      But you must @bigmixxx:disqus , you must.  It’s all the rage right now. Lol jk, yeah there’s really no need to.

  • Rfgenerator

    One has to be smoking crack to buy a Android phone that doesn’t have a removable battery, especially an Android phone which are known to be hard on batteries (on my Sensation I’m lucky to get 10 hours on a charge, I’d be dead if it were not for having a couple spare batteries that I can swap out).  If you battery dies your device is a brick.  

  • Wmercadomedina

    I will get disappointed if you don’t get the Galaxy SIII ,I think you TMobile need to be more agressive with getting phones be faster than the other companies havin the updates

    • Guest

      obviously tmobile will get the galaxy s III.  This phone is more than likely coming to all carriers again.  Samsung isn’t going to change that and make it exclusive.  There’s going to be plenty of quad core devices out there this year.  No reason to be jealous of AT&T getting the One X since they are only getting a dual core model due to it being LTE.

  • Anonymous

    welcome back HTC!!!!!

  • mh646

    I dropped Sense long time ago, now using CM7 and LauncherPro and I have no regrets.

  • Drewmelcher

    other than a few processor digits and different chip numbers, this phone sounds identical to the HTC Sensation, which came out a year ago.
    Still one of the Best android phones out there today is the
    HTC AMAZE.
    Sure the REZOUND is an upgrade from the AMAZE in the music/audio department
    but, the AMAZE came out 6 months ago! and it stil hasn’t been beaten out yet, in my opinion

    • Vim

      I couldn’t care less about Beats audio.  What makes me envious of the Rezound is its 720p non-pentile S-LCD display.  I’m highly disappointed that 4 months later T-Mobile still doesn’t have a single phone with a 720p display when all the other carriers have at least one, and Verizon has three.  Aside from that I agree that the Amaze does indeed compare very well. 

  • former T-Mobile employee

    You’re wrong.  The ATT version does have the quad core.  Get over it… T-Mobile is still getting the second rate phones it always has.  

    • http://tmonews.com David

      I’m not wrong, read AT&T’s press release.

      • http://www.trutower.com/ TruTower.com

        David isn’t wrong. The international version has the NVIDIA Tegra 3 quad processor, but the AT&T model has the next-generation
        1.5 GHz Qualcomm Snapdragon S4 dual-core processor (as David clearly highlighted using AT&T’s own press release above). AT&T isn’t getting the quad-core version.

      • Anonymous

        Why you are so nice to some of these people is total mystery to me… How do you hold back the urge of calling people like that “Morons”?

        • http://tmonews.com David

          Because that’s not how I want to treat all the readers, unlike some of our commenters who already do that for me. Hint hint. :-)

    • Kirk

      The 4 core tegra 3 is slower than the 2 core S4.

  • http://twitter.com/fightcrazy Vinny

    I like the size 4.3, but the very small battery along with no sd card makes this phone a fail for me. I will not buy any phone that doesn’t have a descent battery and expandable memory. The drop box storage does not count IMO. 16 MB is just not enough storage. Whoever designs these new phones are not doing their jobs. They eliminate what I feel are the most important things. They take forever to design these phones and they constantly cut corners, the corners that I feel ruin what could be a great phone. Make the phone a little bit thicker and give us the sd card and larger battery. This phone will be dead by 3 oclock. I don’t see anything yet that beats the Razr Maxx IMO. 

  • Phozfate

    still a low res phone. a high end phone in 2012 needs to be 720p + 

  • Christian

    It doesn’t have NFC. No deal. 

  • Anonymous

    I guess I’m not that surprised.  AT&T always gets the better phones.  Now if this is T-Mobile’s way of saving the bigger news for the SGSIII, then good.  For now, save your money.

  • Anonymous

    Do these new “one” devices have NFC?? I seriously hope it does, cause if the Amaze get’s EOL’d and they replace it with something (albeit with a better display and an amazing looking version of Sense) that doesn’t have NFC, wouldn’t make any sense. Isn’t Isis supposed to be out this year??

  • Anonymous

    Hmm… I may switch to AT&T if T-Mobile doesn’t get something larger than 4.5″ screen…  I’m craving a Galaxy Note…  HTC One S won’t cut it for me…

    • Birdsfan

      I currently have the GNex on TMo and played with the Note yesterday…I WANT that phone!

    • Moth477

      I’m with you buddy! 4.3 just doesn’t seem big enough anymore.

    • Anonymous

      Please tell me you are being sarcastic and really don’t think a 4.5″ screen is not big enough!!

      To me, that’s like saying that you think a hummer is too small for you and that you need a monster truck as a daily driver.

      • Anonymous

        The way I look at it is…. Why carry a tablet & a phone if I can carry both in one device…  Like why drive a 4×4 off road only & then have to own a sedan to drive on road when I could do both in one vehicle….

  • Adam Pranda

    The One S is a pretty decent phone, but if I am going to keep a phone for 2 years, it better have the top specs at the time I bought it. No NFC and no 720P screen are quite the dealbreaker in terms of making the phone last.

  • Anonymous

    When did 4.3in display become tiny to people. Some people get Screensize envy. Seriously, nothing wrong or small about a 4.3 or 4.0 in display. heck I believe that is the perfect range. 4.7in seems too large. I do not like that it is pentile display.

    • http://www.trutower.com/ TruTower

       I’ve noticed an increase of what you call “screensize envy” starting from the release of the Samsung Infuse 4G and increasing with the release of the HTC Titan and Titan II on the horizon.

    • Roger

      I have an iPod Touch I use to keep up with the iOS world.  It is extremely frustrating to use.  The screen width is 5cm.  My finger is just under 2cm wide or almost 40% of the screen width.  How often do you think it detects interactivity in the wrong place?  Sure I am above average height at 6’4″ but people everywhere are getting taller.

    • Anonymous

       4.3″ isn’t tiny for me…. but if I can purchase a 5.3″ screen and not need to carry a tablet & phone then good for me….

  • Anonymous

    If the people that are upset are like me, and are complaining that T-Mobile will not get a model similar to the INERNATIONAL HTC One X (4.7″, Tegra 3, DC-HSPA+, 32GB; who really cares about the At&t version?), they are confused as to why a phone that should work with T-Mobile, gets swapped out for a ‘lesser’ variant.

    • Moth477

      They get swapped so that they can work in “The largest 4G Network!” Who doesn’t like the 42Mbps they are currently getting!

      • Anonymous

         Unfortunately, the MSM8260A does not support DC-HSPA (but oddly enough, it supports CDMA2000), which means the One S is only a HSPA21 device.

  • Snapdragon S4

    So comparing the specs for the One X (AT&T) and One S: 4.7 in vs 4.3 in. NFC vs none, 720p SLCD2 vs 540 SAMOLED. 9.27mm vs 7.8 mm (depth), 131 g to 120 g, 1800 mAh vs 1650 mAh. Both have Sense 4.0, Android 4.0, S4 chip, and 8 megapixels. Both also have 16 gigs and non-removable batteries. Ouch, now that I look at the specs more closely, the Ville is just basically a slightly upgraded Sensation with an S4 chip inside (Krait is beastly though and a power saver), thinner, AMOLED display, and non-removable battery. Oh well, I’ll just hang onto my phone for a little while longer then. I’m not going anywhere. Grass isn’t always greener on the other side.

  • HSC

    4.7″ puts the HTC One X into Galaxy Note territory, which can be considered its own device category. If screen envy is your issue, just get a tablet dammit. On another Tegra 3 chipsets don’t support HSPA+ so it isn’t even a possibilty for us.T-Mobile customers should be more upset about that than anything else. Imagine that we won’t have any quad+1 core devices for some time. Until T-Mobile pushes out the LTE its promising to anyway (could be years). T-Mobile needs to aggressively build its network. It’s the biggest issue and was foreseen by many as its Achilles heel. It’s probably the #1 reason T-Mobile is hemorrhaging customers.

    • Anonymous

      Tegra 3 DOES support HSPA+.  In fact, that’s WHY at&t ditched in their HTC One X, because the tegra 3 would not integrate with LTE.  (It will later on in the year)

      It’s more likely T-Mobile will see an HSPA+ device first, with Tegra 3.

      • Anonymous

         Tegra 3 supports HSPA+, but not DC-HSPA+, which is required for 42mbps and higher. Currently, only Qualcomm makes modems and SOCs with DC-HSPA+ connectivity, which the MSM8960 is one of the 2 SoCs (other is MSM8270) that support it, but the MSM8260A does not.

        Besides that, I’m disappointed that T-Mobile faithful get a device with a smaller, crappier screen and 1/2 the internal storage.

        It is possible that the international One X pairs Tegra 3 with either MDM8220 (DC-HSPA) or MDM9200 (LTE + DC-HSPA).

        • J-Hop2o6

           Wrong. Both the 8960 and the 8260A are the EXACT SAME exuding the LTE portion. So the 8260A (which is inside the HTC One S) is DC HSPA+ (42 mbps)

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Peter-Andrew-Rardin/1416151034 Peter Andrew Rardin

    I agree with most everyone here T-mobile settled for the Zero phone instead of the Hero phone, every carrier has a phone now with an HD screen except for t-mobile. me personally being the big guy that I am don’t want a ladies phone, I do realize that 4 inch might work for most of the population, just like buying a geo metro works for most of the rest of the population but that doesn’t cut it for me.
    Call it what you want I honestly don’t care but the fact that I have been waiting for this phone only to see t-mobile pass it over is just ridiculous. 

    • Giraffe

      qHD makes a phone a ladies’ phone?  Apparently it takes fewer pixels for women to understand the image in front of them :-)

  • http://www.dastardlyreport.com ryaninc

    Pen-tile screen, no NFC, no replaceable battery, no physical shutter button …sure the phone is nice, and it’s really thin, but it’s not really an upgrade from anything. I know I won’t be signing away 2 years to get it. I think HTC dropped the ball this year. Three devices that are nice steps up, but nothing different. No phones with physical keywords, no unique designs. They seem to just be trying to fit in with the crowd. No average shopper is going to pick any of the new One series over the myriad of phones on the shelf. Sigh. I’ve always been a fan of HTC…but these new devices definitely don’t warrant celebration. :-(

    • Anonymous

      I completely agree and the same pentile 4.3″ qHD screen on the RAZR was quite noticeably pixellated. The 480×800 Plus screen looks amazing on my GSII.

  • Anonymous

    HTC website states the HTC One X for AT&T will have AWS bands. Hmmm so we can by the HTC One X ouright from AT&T and unlock it to use on Tmobile.

    • Anonymous

      It also has AWS LTE, so it would be a future proof phone( in terms of working after refarming, not specs)

      • Anonymous

        You right. So when Tmobile goes LTE in 2013 the HTC One X on AT&T should work with Tmobile LTE. This is the phone to have.

  • Anonymous

    Non-Removeable Battery = FAIL
    NO micro SD = FAIL
    NO Camera Button = FAIL

    Does it @ least have OTG usb?

  • http://www.wshh.com/ jr Genuine

    I’m thinking if I was to get the european version of the One X would it work with T Mobile and the HSDPA+ frequency? and what’s the difference between the two HTC One x and HTC One XL? Thanks in advance  

  • just a guy

     I’m sorry to disagree with you here, but I’ll have to. This is not the way to
    be a challenger. No subsidized iPhone right now(I understand the
    business decision, but it’s still a huge sore spot compared to other
    carriers), and things are looking grim for a subsidized iPhone 5. That
    means they need to make up for in their phone lineup, and this just
    doesn’t cut it.

    Customer: “You don’t have an iPhone? I can get it anywhere else …”

    Sales rep: “But we have awesome Android phones!”

    Customer: “I can get better Android phones anywhere else.”

    Sales rep: “…”

    • Anonymous

      If they want the iphone they are going to have to sign a deal similar to sprint. Also common misconception about Sprint’s iphone deal is that they paid apple 15 billion to carry the iphone. The deal was that they would sell 30 million iphones at 500 a pop in four years, which someone estimated at 15 billion.  

      Some think its crazy, because normally carriers pay around 200 less per device from other manufactures. However, I believe sprint can do this because of their premium data fee. Normally that fee goes to clearwire to pay for access to their wimax, but since the iphone is not a wimax device, sprint gets to keep that portion. 

      TMO does not have that luxury. I believe they would lose money over the life of the contract if they bought iphones at 500 a pop and kept the price at 200+ 2yr agreement

  • http://goo.gl/1056j Ironzey Lewis

    Seems like they are going to drop one more thing with this phone…ME.  I’m getting a Galaxy Nexus.  It’s been fun HTC, see you when you get something exciting. 

    • Anonymous

      I am on TMo, my Galaxy Nexus works just fine.

    • Giraffe

      What’s exciting about the Galaxy Nexus?  Or, you know, something that the One S doesn’t have?

      • http://goo.gl/1056j Ironzey Lewis

        off the top of my head I’ll go with NFC.  It’s not just for making payments.  I’d love a device that has NFC I’d use it so the device knows where it is and can act accordingly.  If it knows it’s on my nightstand it’s not going to be blaring notifications after 10pm.  If it knows it’s in my car it will go into car mode.  If it’s on my desk at work it knows that I want it locked.  That’s is exciting, not some camera that isn’t going to live up to the hype surrounding it.  

        Google is adding hardware that HTC isn’t adding to this device would this phone still be as good without the front facing camera?  The FFC is now standard for mobile devices. In my opinion going forward any device that leaves out hardware is substandard.  
        The other thing off the top of my head is Stock Android.  I’ve always been annoyed when people keep harping on how Sense sucks and HTC should leave Android untouched but they do have a point.  Personally, I don’t think Sense is that bad my wife likes it but I don’t I prefer to add my on extras.  

        • Giraffe

          If you can program your NFC device to recognize when you’re in your car.  Can you do this now?  I’ve never heard of it, but if you can show it in action, I accept that it has some convenience benefit.  I also know of devices that do this by having the phone on a car charger, so save for short trips, it may still be a non-factor. If you don’t want blaring notifications after 10 PM, there’s a wide assortment of applications that will remove your notifications based on time which do not require NFC.  GPS functions have been used before for “work mode” on phones as early as the MT4G and already resolve your interest in that respect.

          Despite this, if NFC is still your prime deciding factor, HTC has the Amaze available and it will be receiving an ICS update, per Tmonews.  Done deal.

          There’s hardware that a consumer needs and hardware that attracts your ears by the name but doesn’t mean much.  For me, I don’t have a desperate need for an FFC or a real benefit for NFC, and if I can get a less expensive device because these gimmicks are not in my phone, everyone wins.

        • http://goo.gl/1056j Ironzey Lewis

          If you are the the type to buy into rumors then this article may be moot.  
          Stock Android 4.x
          NFC
          4.7in Screen 
          Killer camera

          The down side being “only” a 21 Mbs radio, but that is what the Galaxy Nexus has so for me it’s not that much of a loss. 

        • http://goo.gl/1056j Ironzey Lewis

          My reply is awaiting approval.  Maybe it was the links. 
          Anyway, in the android market there is an app called “NFC task Launcher” it does stuff based on NFC tags.  
          LG is baking this into one of their phones, it’s called the Optimus LTE tag it comes with stickers. 

          Then presented my reasons for wanting NFC, basically it comes down to finer control.  Basically, using NFC the phone can know exactly where it is.  

  • Anonymous

    I’m not liking the sound of this drop box.  Means you have to waste data to upload your videos for storage if your at event and need more than the memory the phone has.  Same if its there and you want to view it, have to download it?  Seems like a great way for a phone company to make more money off people in data sales.  What if your out somewhere and there is no data signal?  Not good.

    I’m still not sold on this “cloud” solution.  What if the host servers crash and you need something that is on there?

    • Deon Davis

      I guess assume you will do most uploading via wi fi

  • Manglemn

    w8, but on that same AnandTech page that I saw: 

    Internally the phone features DC-HSPA+ (42Mbps) support

    Does this mean that we can use the Tegra 3 version of the phone on Tmo’s network?

    • J-Hop2o6

       The AT&T version (Qualcomm S4) will be the better version. And the Tegra 3 version maxes out @ 21 HSPA+. IDK if the Tegra 3 version supports AWS.

  • Anonymous

    Does the S have that cool little HDMI dongle?

    • Deon Davis

      yes

      • Anonymous

        THIS, is the Phone I have been waiting for. Upgrade ready…damn the cost (kinda,lol)

        • JBLmobileG1

          It’s pretty much the Amaze with a few improvements. Now I understand why the Amaze is EOL considering they announced this phone that is very similar.