What Will Happen Now That T-Mobile Doesn’t Have The iPhone?

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It’s October 4th and we all know what that means, iPhone Day!  Well, I’m sure you have heard already but T-Mobile will NOT be receiving an iPhone this year.  Big win for the Android faithful, but what does this mean for the carrier on a whole?

 It’s a quick opinion, but let’s see what we can figure out here.  Apple is one of the only major stakeholders that have not voiced their opinion on the merger, but they have definitely showed their cards with this move.  Not allowing an iPhone on the 4th major carrier effectively shows that they don’t think it is worth it.  It is not worth the small cost to them, even if they will be receiving increased revenue.

More so, they are even showing that they don’t have faith in T-Mobile, and especially with their future.  They believe that AT&T is going to swallow them whole, and maybe it will be better for them that way.  The new iPhone is even a world phone, compatible with AT&T, Verizon and SPRINT, and they still don’t want to include T-Mobile in the fun.  Maybe they are waiting for T-Mobile to be swallowed whole, allowing them to make the real iPhone 5 4G capable on the three main players.  They would need to make a different device for each carrier, but that’s not entirely surprising and is surely within the next evolution of the phone we love to hate, or hate to love depending on your standpoint (for you, probably the former).

The worst part is that this isn’t even the upgrade that everyone was banking on.  It is the same old iPhone, just faster.  Sure, there are other good things with the upgrade, but nothing like the upgrades you see with Android phones.  This evolution of the iPhone took over a year to upgrade, and they only accomplished what Android phone manufacturers have done in 6 months.  The simple fact is, and back to the main point, that people will still flock to buy this phone, because of it being “magical.”  It’s great branding, and something that Android phones miss the mark on, but being the only major carrier without ‘magic’ kind of pushes you aside.

Let’s turn this around though.  Maybe this wasn’t Apple.  Apple could have gone to T-Mobile and been like, “we want the iPhone on all major carriers so we can dominate the market.”  Chances are, that didn’t happen (they will still dominate the market, just without T-Mobile).  So, T-Mobile didn’t put the effort in.  They didn’t express the interest (read: money) to get the iPhone on their network.  This is a huge misstep.

Yes, Android is great, and I love that T-Mobile is standing behind the OS that they helped expand, but simply ‘talking’ to clients against the iPhone won’t cut it.  People will leave, and less people will be adopting Android, as well as WP7 and Blackberry for that matter.  It’s a shame, but the sheer demand for iPhones is going to explode this holiday season, and there isn’t much standing in their way.

Simply putting the iPhone on T-Mobile may not be able to save them, there is no way of knowing, but not getting it is the worst mistake that T-Mobile could make.  They know the demand, they know how many people love it and use Edge just to have it on T-Mobile, and they know that people will leave for it.  They are allowing this to happen, bowing down, throwing in the towel, giving up.  The fact that T-Mobile is now the only major carrier without an iPhone is the biggest argument FOR the merger, and it is a significant one.  It will be very difficult for T-Mobile to compete now, and maybe that is exactly how they want it.

 

 

 

 

 

 

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  • Matt Rawlins

    No iPhone, no nexus prime, no thank you Tmobile.

    • Adamboyd83

      Why do people keep saying the nest Nexus wont be on Tmobile? JUst because it doesnt show up on a Roadmap for releases in the next month. Those roadmaps are for devices branded and sold by Tmobile. And I really doubt that Google would just drop support for a carrier that has literally been there supporting them since the start.

      Rumors are rumors for a reason. Today was a perfect example of that. Look at all the rumors for a brand new iPhone. Look what we got.

      • Littlesis1774

        Rumor is Verizon is getting first not T-mobile. Google might be jumping ship

  • Aleale

    so eventually sprint doesnt get exclusivity for the iphone 5 right?

    • Anonymous

      yeah it was all a bunch of inaccurate rumors from the gadget blogs.  They were wrong about most everything today.

      • http://tmonews.com David

        No they weren’t, not about iPhone 4S details, they were almost spot on.

        • Anonymous

          the 4s is basically the iphone 4….it’s hard to even say that’s much of a rumor.

          the gadget blogs were pushing the iphone 5  very hard as something that will be announced today.

      • http://tmonews.com David

        No they weren’t, not about iPhone 4S details, they were almost spot on.

    • Anonymous

      yeah it was all a bunch of inaccurate rumors from the gadget blogs.  They were wrong about most everything today.

    • Anonymous

      yeah it was all a bunch of inaccurate rumors from the gadget blogs.  They were wrong about most everything today.

  • David

    Apple can kill itself only and doesn’t have enough power to kill anyone else including T-Mobile.

    T-Mobile doesn’t need iPhone and I am glad this crap is not coming to T-Mobile.

    T-Mobile needs to get better WP 7.5 and BB devices to have all good OSes in their network.

    WP 7.5 and Android are both better than iOS. In version 5 actually Apple copied a lot from Microsoft Windows Phone and few Android features. Nothing new same boring old thing over and over.

    T-Mobile please offer more good phones like HTC Titan, Nokia Ace, Samsung Focus S and etc. All these are going to AT&T save yourself with offering more great phones.

    • http://tmonews.com David

      Yet another comment that doesn’t recognize the notion that your wireless needs and feelings aren’t shared by the community.

      • Smith

        Yet another comment that doesn’t recognize the notion that your love for iPhone and feelings aren’t shared by the community.

    • http://tmonews.com David

      Yet another comment that doesn’t recognize the notion that your wireless needs and feelings aren’t shared by the community.

  • Dude33

    Rumors are that Sprint commited 20 billion dollars for 4 years to get Apple to build them one. The total pricetag for T-Mobile is 39 billion dollars. T-Mobile just can not afford to meet Apple’s high demands

  • Dude33

    Rumors are that Sprint commited 20 billion dollars for 4 years to get Apple to build them one. The total pricetag for T-Mobile is 39 billion dollars. T-Mobile just can not afford to meet Apple’s high demands

  • Anonymous

    It’s pretty obvious that T-mobile couldn’t afford the iphone.  Hardly a mistake when you have to risk billions of dollars on one single product at the smallest national carrier. 

    At least you guys still have your great customer service and low pricing.  Sometimes you just can’t have everything.

  • Craig4life20089

    Apple didn’t kill t-mobile. T-mobile killed themselves. Im an android man and can’t wait to see what google brings to the table next week. Anyone hungry for some ice cream?

  • Davesweeps

    Boo. I’m glad they aren’t getting it and I hope TMobile doesn’t merge and prospers. And it can! Bowing to Apple and mortgaging the farm just to have their now staid devices is not the way to go, IMO 

  • Mchap87

    Can the new iPhone be broken? If so, would it be faster than the iphone4g?

  • Dpro

    Ok I am going to lay it out here like it is. Android fan boy haters will just speak negative about Apple and the Iphone just because. Not with Logic most of the time.
    I have used both operating systems, while Android is nice its just not as smooth as IOS period.  I have and use and an Android Phone by the way.
    Though lets get down to the nitty gritty here, fact is this Apple did not kill T Mobile, DT is killing T Mobile . People want to get pissed at T Mobile people want to try and blame Apple. Wake the hell up and smell the damn coffee. T Mobile obviously opted out of even talking to Apple about a possible Iphone for them because they were so intent on the whole sale of T Mobile to AT&T . Why bother? It would be added expenses for what they consider to already be a write off on their balance sheets. They are not going to dump more money into what they consider a losing proposition. Spring got the Iphone because Spring agreed to a purchase of certain amount of handsets from Apple over the course of 3 years. No exclusivity just a purchase order contract. T Mobile  because of DT was not going to go there.
    Of course T Mobile has some new Android handsets. Android handset manufacturers are willing to practically give their phones away to ensure sales. Apple is still at this point the #1 handset seller in the  world. The Number #1 Smartphone operating system maker in the World. Before you go screaming about these facts and they are facts realize that yes Android has made great strides but as it sits right now Apple has 43% of Operating system pie vs androids 33%.
    Sure rant and rave about how Android is going to take over. Fact is it does not matter if Android winds up equal it will not diminish the percentages Apple has it will just take away from Rim and WP7.
    So Apple does not need to give their handsets away to get business.

    This is basically a marketing mistake on T Mobiles part and pretty much is the nail in the coffin but DT is the one holding the hammer not Apple.

    • Dpro

      excuse a few of my typo’s I was typing quickly. When I said Spring of course I meant Sprint. LOL
       oh and a few extra and’s wound up in there.

  • Dpro

    Ok I am going to lay it out here like it is. Android fan boy haters will just speak negative about Apple and the Iphone just because. Not with Logic most of the time.
    I have used both operating systems, while Android is nice its just not as smooth as IOS period.  I have and use and an Android Phone by the way.
    Though lets get down to the nitty gritty here, fact is this Apple did not kill T Mobile, DT is killing T Mobile . People want to get pissed at T Mobile people want to try and blame Apple. Wake the hell up and smell the damn coffee. T Mobile obviously opted out of even talking to Apple about a possible Iphone for them because they were so intent on the whole sale of T Mobile to AT&T . Why bother? It would be added expenses for what they consider to already be a write off on their balance sheets. They are not going to dump more money into what they consider a losing proposition. Spring got the Iphone because Spring agreed to a purchase of certain amount of handsets from Apple over the course of 3 years. No exclusivity just a purchase order contract. T Mobile  because of DT was not going to go there.
    Of course T Mobile has some new Android handsets. Android handset manufacturers are willing to practically give their phones away to ensure sales. Apple is still at this point the #1 handset seller in the  world. The Number #1 Smartphone operating system maker in the World. Before you go screaming about these facts and they are facts realize that yes Android has made great strides but as it sits right now Apple has 43% of Operating system pie vs androids 33%.
    Sure rant and rave about how Android is going to take over. Fact is it does not matter if Android winds up equal it will not diminish the percentages Apple has it will just take away from Rim and WP7.
    So Apple does not need to give their handsets away to get business.

    This is basically a marketing mistake on T Mobiles part and pretty much is the nail in the coffin but DT is the one holding the hammer not Apple.

  • http://twitter.com/NateDogg4rm831 Nate Dogg

    I’ve had T-Mo since ’05 & I love ‘em BUT w/ no iPhone yet… I’m really debating moving to AT&T. I absolutely hate AT&T BUT at least I can use data/voice simultaneously un-like those two other companies… Ugh! :/

    • Guest

      Don’t do it. At&t is the worst. Go to Sprint or Verizon. 

  • Celloboy

    No matter how we feel about T-Mobile they’re not gonna last much longer. They’re either gonna merge with AT&T or another company, or maybe just close down. Its sad but on Saturday afternoon I went into a T-Mobile store and it was just me and the 3 employees. Just a few months ago you could walk into the same store on any day and it would always have customers in there and you would have to wait to speak to someone. 

  • George

    I’m definitely disappointed but I also got a chance to test out the Amaze at a T-Mobile store today.  Someone made a great point about T-Mobile’s unbeatable pricing and that you can’t have it all.  It comes down to the Amaze versus the G2x for me.  I’m not sure the Amaze can offer me much more tangible functionality than the G2x so it’ll depend on how cheap I can find a new G2x for.  I guess I’ll be auditioning Android for the year and we’ll do this dance again in a year when the next iPhone is announced.

    • George

      …although it is nice to know the Nexus announcement will be made before the Amaze becomes available.

    • Durandal_1707

      DEFINITELY go with the Amaze, SGSII, or anything but the G2x. The G2x is a complete piece of junk. Really regretting my purchase.

  • mrmiddl

    iphone4s sucks compared to most new phones out now. better than iphone4 of course. but i think a good working G2x would kill it. will do a test as soon as my friend (idiot) gets his.

  • mrmiddl

    iphone4s sucks compared to most new phones out now. better than iphone4 of course. but i think a good working G2x would kill it. will do a test as soon as my friend (idiot) gets his.

    • http://tmonews.com David

      Awesome, I love when people call iPhone owners idiots. So mature!

      • JT

        I guess you missed the post where someone called someone else an android loser

        • Wilma Flintstone

          that’s less insulting than blatantly calling someone an idiot.

        • JT

          I think one is just as bad as another.  They are just phone’s for GOD’s sake.  Aren’t we all supposed to be adults here and respect one another’s opinion.  I read these forums to learn things, but lately it seems that it is about who has the bigger sandbox.  I think DT will decide what is best for themselves and their company and their investors and at the end of the day it is their decision.  If someone wants an iphone great.  I hope you enjoy your purchase and the same goes for any other brand.  If T-mobile doesn;t have what you want why gripe go find another carrier that does.  This is America the land of the FREE……………………….

        • Wilma Flintstone

          I agree.  People get sooo upset because they don’t want another company to prosper.  Especially when its a direct competitor.  They resort to childish tactics like name calling and insulting all due to fear of competition.  It happens almost everytime an article regarding a new iPhone release.  That’s why most of my comments in here are comical.  This whole arguing over cell phones thing is very childish.  I’m not an iphone supporter btw but I do know that that device does have a huge following.

        • http://tmonews.com David

          While that’s something I would have commented on as well, that’s not as bad as calling someone an idiot directly. Two wrongs don’t make a right.

      • JT

        I guess you missed the post where someone called someone else an android loser

    • Guest911

      Not really….but its ok to call people idiots and only focus on benchmark tests. I mean all the g2x complaints were because of tests right? Just like I only buy a car based on max speed – dont care about overall performance at all.

    • Guest911

      Not really….but its ok to call people idiots and only focus on benchmark tests. I mean all the g2x complaints were because of tests right? Just like I only buy a car based on max speed – dont care about overall performance at all.

    • Dpro

      Wow you always call your friends, idiots? Real sense of respect and friendship there. Mature you are. Oh and your friend does not have an Iphone 4S as it was announced today its not out yet.
      Oh and in response to the person talking about how they can watch video’s on their Android that Iphone users can’t? I do not see or here of any Iphone users complaining about not being to watch particular videos.
      If an Iphone does not work for you great. It does work for a lot of people. Seriously I think Android fans need to just dial it back some.

      Your phones satisfy you great. It does not make it better it just makes it different. Apple would not be selling so many Iphone’s if they did not work and work well.

      Some people just don’t want to geek out on their phone rooting it and overclocking the processor and putting custom roms on them. They just want a phone they can buy and it works and works right from the get go.
      This is something Apple manages to do better than even Android. Sorry guys its a fact and this is coming from an Android user.
      I am not fooling myself Android has some great points but its not as smooth. Its not as easy.

  • mrmiddl

    iphone4s sucks compared to most new phones out now. better than iphone4 of course. but i think a good working G2x would kill it. will do a test as soon as my friend (idiot) gets his.

  • Tmo4life, 1 year to live

    Yes, Iphone don’t freeze up like androids. Iphone isn’t hard to learn how to do everything. But I can watch videos that you can’t on iphone. Smartphones are mini computers, and if my computer can’t show all the videos that I want to watch, I would return it.

    • Idontgiveafudge

      Android is easy to use, maybe idiots like you have a hard time :)

  • Guest

    T-Mobile you do not own Android and Android does not own you. Be in the business of providing the best quality phones, network, and service. I want an iPhone, but I think I may want a “Nexus Prime” more, as long as the specs are real. iPhone specs do not always need to match up to Android phones. Just like the Macs, the specs are not always apples to apples but I find they still perform better. Not just in the short term, but in the long term. 

  • David Coucheron

    Actually I think Tmobile is being smart here. remember how the ceo said “there will be no iphone 5 this year?” If they play this right, it would mean if ATT merger does not go through, they use the cash they get from the deal NOT going through to buy themselves into the iPhone 5 next spring and skip the iPhone 4s alltogether which is really not a big deal. most people are disappointed by it anyway.

    • N7mcc

      I think you got it in one……

      • David Coucheron

        October is later than june. March is later than June. I am pretty certain Apple is going to release iPhone 5 in the first half of 2012.

    • Bear06

      Next spring? Every new iphone has been released June or later you idiot.

      • http://tmonews.com David

        Do not call someone an “idiot.” Please.

  • Guest

    I’ve been with T-Mobile since 2003 and I’m honestly getting fed up with them. Not because of the iPhone but because it feels like they aren’t trying. Everyone talks about T-Mobile having the Galaxy 2, Blackberry Bold 9900 and so on. But its only a matter of time before the other carriers get the Bold, and they already have the Galaxy 2. Yeah we have the Sensation which is an awesome phone and the mytouch but it really doesn’t compare to the exclusives that the other carriers have. Verizon has the Thunderbolt and Droids. AT&T had the iPhone for the longest time. Sprint has the Evos. T-Mobile needs to get some exclusive phones that are great and really market them. The Sensation is a great phone but T-Mobile didn’t advertise it at all. If it wasn’t for HTC making ads about it, it would’ve went completely unnoticed to the masses. And having a girl in a pink dress with a white background saying switch to T-Mobile or here is our newest phone isn’t really helping them out. Get innovative like Verizon and Sprint. Really push your products and maybe customers will show up.

  • Devin

    talk about shooting you self in the foot twice 
    1st. by not getting the Iphone the 1st time it was offered to you guys way before no one even knew what an iphone was

    2nd. for not getting it this year when apple seems to just be giving out eys phone to any company that say i wont one to.

    come on T-mobile 

  • Cameron W3st

    everyone everyone…calm down with all the Apple bashing and who copied who…simple truth is this…Android wouldn’t even EXIST if Apple hadn’t gone and introduced us to the iPhone…say what you will, but that’s the truth…

    AND…look at all your precious Android phone form factors…The G2X, Sensation, even your beloved SamSUCK Galaxy 2…looks EXACTLY like an iPhone…

    I don’t have an iPhone now…and never have…been with Tmobile since 04…but come on…most of you people argue over such ignorant points…get your facts straight. 

    • souggie

      And Apple wouldn’t exist, if they didn’t get their ideas from Palm and Microsoft who set the template YEARS ago, all Apple did was follow through on someone else’s tech, all manufacturers do it, the iPhone4s now has some features native to android, but you don’t see Google bitching and suing….get these facts straight, there will always be better on the horizon, there is nothing that ios had that android can’t do the same or better……deal with the shock

      • souggie

        And how do you know android wouldn’t exist without apple? Android dropped let’s than a year after the first iPhone dropped…..really? Cmon man….

        • souggie

          Less than

      • souggie

        Some day there will be something even better than ios and android, so it doesn’t matter

    • Strayelectron

      Actually, Windows Mobile was around before Apple and Android. I was downloading apps from Handmark long before the iTunes App store appeared.  Imagine what the smartphone industry would have been had Microsoft not blown their early advantage…

    • Strayelectron

      Actually, Windows Mobile was around before Apple and Android. I was downloading apps from Handmark long before the iTunes App store appeared.  Imagine what the smartphone industry would have been had Microsoft not blown their early advantage…

  • 134

     FWIW the iphone 4s announcement was a bit underwhelming – which should be expected given it wasn’t iphone 5. 

    I couldn’t care less about the iphone though in fact, I want it to do well so we TMO gives me some nice deals on GS II

  • TMoFan

    It’s really too bad because a T-Mobile iPhone with T-Mobile’s rates would annihilate the competition. Anything that will help T-Mobile is not being pursued because DT is so damned determined to get the sellout through. With all their might they could have brought the iPhone to the US but now T-Mobile is the only national carrier without it. DT has been an utter failure.

    Mind you I’m not an iPhone fanboy but I just think it’s crazy not to offer it.

  • Whoopla

    may be t-mobile isn’t interested in attracting customers any more… who knows…

    • Anonymous

      why you think the iphone is the only way to attract customers…who knows….

  • Guest

    TMobile is not dead and is not going away anytime soon just because it doesn’t have an iPhone.  It’s just another overreaction to bitter people who want everything.  Well I have a news for you: if you wanted an iPhone you should have moved on by now – stop whining and just switch to another carrier if you want it that badly.  Even if you were in a contract you were given more than sufficient time to get out.  TMo never said they were getting an iPhone or they never purposely led you to believe so. 

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/CeeGee-Borela/100000183782060 CeeGee Borela

    the SAMSUNG SGS2 Hercules will be the savior of Tmobile, next to that 4S the Hercules holds true to its name

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/CeeGee-Borela/100000183782060 CeeGee Borela

      Jesus even that LG Thrill would kill the iPhone 4S with 3D disregarding the fact LG did horrible botch jobs on the G2X and Thrill

      • Littlesis1774

        In apple defense they never said or mention iphone 5 now looking back it. They mention iphone 4s

      • Littlesis1774

        In apple defense they never said or mention iphone 5 now looking back it. They mention iphone 4s

        • http://www.facebook.com/people/CeeGee-Borela/100000183782060 CeeGee Borela

          can you imagine how much the 5 would cost with the 4S prices now?

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/CeeGee-Borela/100000183782060 CeeGee Borela

      Jesus even that LG Thrill would kill the iPhone 4S with 3D disregarding the fact LG did horrible botch jobs on the G2X and Thrill

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/CeeGee-Borela/100000183782060 CeeGee Borela

    the SAMSUNG SGS2 Hercules will be the savior of Tmobile, next to that 4S the Hercules holds true to its name

  • Tito

    Not like it really matters, over 10 percent of t-mobile customers have iPhones… which shows loyalty to magenta… after all, we do have the best prices and best customer service… reason why those customers rather go to Sprint or Verizon if the acquisition does go thru…. at least that’s what my customers tell me… that’s why they came to us in the first place…

  • Tito

    Not like it really matters, over 10 percent of t-mobile customers have iPhones… which shows loyalty to magenta… after all, we do have the best prices and best customer service… reason why those customers rather go to Sprint or Verizon if the acquisition does go thru…. at least that’s what my customers tell me… that’s why they came to us in the first place…

  • Tortionist

    Good article Andrew, between you and David. I’ve always looked forward to reading your articles. On a side note, like you said in your article, the I-phone can’t save T-mobile, but it is a big mistake for T-mobile to not pick it up. It could help T-mobile out a bit. So far from what i’ve seen and read, t-mobile has made two huge mistakes that’s actually hurting them. The first is their lack of any real kind of marketing and the second is not picking up the I-phone. Both would do wonders for T-mobile. there’s other factors, but they’re not nearly as big or important as these two. As far as which OS is the best..there is no best…Who cares, it boils down to one word…. preference. Some people prefer simple and easy to use, others prefer total customization , and yet others prefer somewhere in the middle like windows mobile or Blackberry. Anyone who says this OS is the best or that OS is the best is just trying to sell a personal opinion. I’ve messed with all of the smartphone OS’s out there now (with the exception of Symbian) and they all have their strengths and weaknesses or pros and cons. So, it really is a matter of preference.

  • http://twitter.com/jvbrown17 Jeffrey Brown

    Maybe T-Mobile is doing a “Verizon” and skipping ahead to the iPhone 5. Could be that they figured this version wouldn’t be that big of a deal. I mean, they did say that they are not getting the iPhone this year. I think it’s a bad gamble to wait considering all of the jumpers. At this rate, ATT will end up with what they want–spectrum, infrastructure and very few customers.

    • Littlesis1774

      the bigger question will T-mobile make it until iphone 5 is out

  • HM

    The argument in this article is not valid. There is an
    article in Wall Street Journal that points out that Sprint essentially bet or
    gambled its future on Iphone. Apple made contract with Sprint that Sprint will
    buy around 30 million units of Iphone over the 4 years irrespective of they are
    able to sell them on not. The cost is 20 billion Dollars, and Sprint is
    expected to have a loss on each IPhone sold at least till 2014.. Sprint already
    have weak balance sheet. On contrary Android phones are extremely profitable.
    Today’s 4S version has not made any big splash and Android is getting stronger
    day by day. Only the time will tell if Sprint made a wise move or not, but
    profitability is the reason why everyone is in the business in the first place.

    • Anonymous

      not to mention that Apple saw immediate stock decreases over disappointment. It was like “Hey look we made this iphone 4s, the next magical phone” and wall street said “Uh…really….thats what we have waited over a year for? Can you at least put glitter on it or something?”

    • Anonymous

      not to mention that Apple saw immediate stock decreases over disappointment. It was like “Hey look we made this iphone 4s, the next magical phone” and wall street said “Uh…really….thats what we have waited over a year for? Can you at least put glitter on it or something?”

      • trife

        Clearly, you know nothing about the market.  And you definitely haven’t watched it every time a new big Apple product is released. Just sayin’.  

        • Anonymous

          actually I have been a part of the stock market game for years now. Not to mention most of the reporting on the stock of apple has been focused around the uneasy perspectives of investors because apple has taken so long to come out with a new phone, and when they do its nothing but a slightly change, and was kinda of a slap in the face. It seemed more like apple was just sticking something out there to keep the price point high enough to make a profit and keep the sheep in line. Too much longer and iphone users risk getting to their upgrade options and may choose an android or windows or other phone. 

          Not to mention that in most cases apple should have recovered fully from the drop as well as gained a little, but as of this typing apple has shown losses still from when the market opened today, whereas tech and other areas of the market are showing significantly better numbers. Heck, even netflix showed improvement today of some noticeable degree hehe…..

        • trife

          LOL.  Get back to me when their stock goes even higher than it was prior to it dropping today.  It will happen.  Guaranteed. 
            

        • Anonymous

          yea, im sure it will, but still hasn’t and while apple may get a small increase over the next month, it ultimately has not and will not play out like prior years. If you review the stock history apple tends to have low stock near the end of the years and higher stock in the middle of the year around announcement and releases. However, this year is different. The iPad 2 had a jump, and since then its been in decline. Its like watching Apple is in a war with android and is running out of bullets and in a last ditch effort decided to throw the gun because it wouldnt shoot anymore without ammunition. The apple is rotting, and while you can go enjoy it and have fun with your outdated tech, ill keep my similarly outdated tech to the nostalgia of playing Legend of Zelda on my android N64 emulator

        • Anonymous

          yea, im sure it will, but still hasn’t and while apple may get a small increase over the next month, it ultimately has not and will not play out like prior years. If you review the stock history apple tends to have low stock near the end of the years and higher stock in the middle of the year around announcement and releases. However, this year is different. The iPad 2 had a jump, and since then its been in decline. Its like watching Apple is in a war with android and is running out of bullets and in a last ditch effort decided to throw the gun because it wouldnt shoot anymore without ammunition. The apple is rotting, and while you can go enjoy it and have fun with your outdated tech, ill keep my similarly outdated tech to the nostalgia of playing Legend of Zelda on my android N64 emulator

  • Rgods

    screw that piece of crap iphone, windows mango all the way.

  • Pollux1996

    Just an fyi….1st q of 2012 + iphone = t-mobile
    And that is from good source…

    • Anonymous

      yeah, and how many “good sources” have been saying tmo is getting the iphone over last few years?

      • Anonymous

        lol, i know

        all the good sources said we’d have an iphone 5 today and some special sources even said Sprint would get it exclusive.

    • sidekicker89

      who is your source?

    • InsideSource

      my source is upper level execs confirming iPhone 5 for 1st qtr 2012…I confirm Pollux1996s post…

      • http://twitter.com/SocalFrank1 Frank Alvarez

        Were they specific enough to say iPhone 5? or 4S?
        Why would Apple come out with a 4S only to reveal a 5 less then 6 months later?

  • Anonymous

    Well T-Mobile just lost 2 customers…Screw this, I’m going to SPRINT. This is like their 3G rollout all over again :/

    • Jon Barros

      im sure they’ll miss you

  • Andres Garcia

    Not with a lame duck-phone such as the iPhone 4S, no comparison with the Samsung’s Galaxy S2 variants. Wasted opportunity for Apple!!!!

  • Andres Garcia

    Not with a lame duck-phone such as the iPhone 4S, no comparison with the Samsung’s Galaxy S2 variants. Wasted opportunity for Apple!!!!

  • http://twitter.com/RudyFlyer4 CJ

    I think T-mobile will be just fine without the Iphone. It has great
    phones, I just wish they would offer more WP7 phones from Samsung, LG
    etc. I am getting really annoyed by this Iphone hype. It is like the Yankees always winning cant they have one bad season.

  • Chrisangel13

    Because it was T-Mobile who released the first Android device, Steve Jobs swore revenge and plotted T-Mobile’s slow and painful demise…

    • hoot-hoot

      lame excuse! tmobile has the iPhone but not in the usa. 

  • Anonymous

    one thing people forget to consider is that Apple gets kickback from carriers on data plans and other little extras. With TMO being lower in cost, the kickback is not as much as the overcharging from sprint, att, and vzw….which means less incentive for Apple, and we all know the Apple cares more about pofits than absolutely anything else, even going so far as to use unethical business practices against the apple fanboy. Its like a celebrity having a fan willing to take a bullet for them and when they do the celebrity just pees on them cause it was too much work to walk to the bathroom. 

  • sidekicker89

    .. I know we are blaming T-Mobile a lot but Apple is at fault too, they didn’t just screw over T-Mobile but they screwed other networks around the world that use AWS band for their 3G networks right??? Plus i doubt T-mobile has the capitol to bribe Apple anyway… anyways I’m staying on T-Mobile.. believe it or not you don’t need a smartphone to live your life, remember when people used cell phones to call people? and the only thing they cared about was good voice coverage? the good days..

  • kenshiro

    All this doom and gloom over a f***ing iPhone is beyond retarded. It was Apple stock that went down today, not T-Mobile. Who hired this guy to write for a T-Mobile website? Must be hardcore Apple fanboy to be doing all this instigating over nothing.

    • http://tmonews.com David

      Did you actually read the post? I think you missed the point entirely.

      • kenshiro

        Yes, David. I read the post. I think you all give Apple way too much credit, which is exactly the reason why their devices are so successful despite being inferior in almost every way. All it takes is one person to say “omg, have you tried the iphone” or likewise “omg did apple just kill t-mobile” to plant a seed in the minds of thousands and possible millions. iPhone isn’t successful because their product is just better, they are successful because generally people are stupid enough to believe that they are.

        • http://tmonews.com David

          Device inferiority is a matter of personal opinion and not fact. The smug attitude adopted by Android fanboys in this thread overlooks the notion that the iPhone is a desirable device for millions of US wireless consumers. Not having it is a problem for T-Mobile because I don’t remember the last time customers left in droves to sign up for T-Mobile for any Android, Windows Phone 7 or Blackberry device.

        • Jon Barros

          this by far the dumbest post ever written. t-mobile never had an iphone so if there were millions that were going to jump ship they would of done it for any other iphone. what makes this one special. the iphone is overhyped. everyone knows its going to sell millions but stop acting like its the end of the world. by the way im glad its not on tmobile since i dont want to deal with the plan price increase thats on its way to sprint.

        • Anonymous

          wow!!!  your justifications are so deep man!!!  so deep! i’m truly touched.

          You clearly don’t understand business and live in your sheltered world of small tech bubbles.  If it makes you feel better than don’t allow a deeper understanding of the world around you.  Your opinions are apparently tech gospel and how dare the rest  of the world operate successfully outside of them.  Someone better call the president because you are clearly upset.

        • Anonymous

          Why do you put up with such ignorance??  I’m serious, your post was honest, logical and well-rounded.  It was similar to an editorial imo.  I’m disappointed that so many of these people have the fortitude to verbally attack you because you have an open mind regardless of your position.  I don’t think any of these people have taken into consideration that this site may well be part of your financial well-being and that it takes courage to write something like that in your position.

          I hope you figure out a way to get some of the rude and dis-respectful people in check.

        • Wilma Flintstone

          The funny part is that almost ALL of them think David wrote the article when actually he didn’t.

        • Wilma Flintstone

          The funny part is that almost ALL of them think David wrote the article when actually he didn’t.

        • kenshiro

          That’s the problem right there, David. iPhone is desirable because Apple tells people iPhone is desirable. There is nothing the iPhone can do that an equally powerful android device can’t do and more and better. If android was marketed the way Apple markets the iPhone, with overly sentimental ad campaigns and glorified salesmen focusing on old features as if they were the pioneers of smartphones, Android phones would sell a lot more. Look at their latest ad for the 4S. They pitch the 8MP camera as if Apple invented the 8MP phone camera despite it pretty much being present on several high-end android devices for many months, and then go into detail about how they added an extra lens as if it was some profound scientific discovery. They manipulate the general public into believing they have created this one-of-a-kind device, just for them and they eat it up because most are ignorant. Remember what Agent K said to Agent J in Men in Black? “A person is smart, people are stupid” They believe what they want to believe despite the evidence all around them, because it’s easier that way, and Apple is an expert in mass mind-f***ing sales tactics.

        • kenshiro

          Also, labeling your article “did just kill t-mobile” is a stretch and may lead to some believing Apple did actually kill T-Mobile and then go to another carrier. It’s conjecture at best and bad publicity for T-Mobile, and I hope they catch you on it. T-Mobile is aware of the benefits from carrying iPhone, but going as far to say Apple just killed them on a popular T-Mobile website actually hurts T-Mobile more than if you were to focus on only the facts and leave out the speculation.

        • kenshiro

          Also, labeling your article “did just kill t-mobile” is a stretch and may lead to some believing Apple did actually kill T-Mobile and then go to another carrier. It’s conjecture at best and bad publicity for T-Mobile, and I hope they catch you on it. T-Mobile is aware of the benefits from carrying iPhone, but going as far to say Apple just killed them on a popular T-Mobile website actually hurts T-Mobile more than if you were to focus on only the facts and leave out the speculation.

        • Wilma Flintstone

          You SURE you read the post Kenshiro?  If you did, you’d notice that it wasn’t David that wrote the article.  It was ANDREW.

        • kenshiro

          Yes, I read the f***ing post. I know Andrew wrote the damn article, but David is running this website and has given his writers free reign to post such articles. He is just as much responsible for this article as Andrew.

        • http://tmonews.com David

          I do believe an argument can be made that the lack of an iPhone is a viable reason to believe T-Mobile is finished. The inability of the company to put together a deal and be the only major wireless carrier out there without a ridiculously popular phone is a very bad sign.

        • Wilma Flintstone

          You SURE you read the post Kenshiro?  If you did, you’d notice that it wasn’t David that wrote the article.  It was ANDREW.

      • kenshiro

        Yes, David. I read the post. I think you all give Apple way too much credit, which is exactly the reason why their devices are so successful despite being inferior in almost every way. All it takes is one person to say “omg, have you tried the iphone” or likewise “omg did apple just kill t-mobile” to plant a seed in the minds of thousands and possible millions. iPhone isn’t successful because their product is just better, they are successful because generally people are stupid enough to believe that they are.

    • http://twitter.com/autigers1970 autigers1970

      Apple’s stock goes down after almost every keynote for a new product….then resumes it’s upward ascent in the days after.  It’s just the way it works.  Taking any encouragement in that is ignorant.

    • http://twitter.com/autigers1970 autigers1970

      Apple’s stock goes down after almost every keynote for a new product….then resumes it’s upward ascent in the days after.  It’s just the way it works.  Taking any encouragement in that is ignorant.

  • trife

    To sit here and say that the iPhone is crap is hilarious.  To sit here and say that T-Mobile will be just fine without the iPhone is equally hilarious.  

    What a lot of you don’t seem to grasp is that while you have loyalty to our carrier, they ultimately don’t have loyalty to you.  Same goes for Google and Apple.  Last time I checked, all of the above are BUSINESSES in the business of making money.  So while you sit here cheering that T-Mobile is now the only carrier out of the Big 4 to NOT carry the oh-so-popular iPhone, you fail to see that this mistake may lead to the demise of your beloved T-Mobile.  Was it a business move to not pick it up?  Could be.  But whatever the reasoning is, NOT getting an iPhone was a huge blunder.  Could getting it save T-Mobile?  One will never know.  But I can say with 100% certainty that not getting it definitely will not help TMO’s cause.    

    The truth is that if all of you loved Magenta like you say you do, you’d WANT the iPhone to come here.  Regardless of whether or not you love or hate Apple and their products, there is absolutely no denying the business they have brought every carrier that has opted to carry their devices.  Business that TMO desperately needs.  Do you think that TMO will stay afloat from all the warm, fuzzy feelings you have about them and Android?  It takes MONEY and T-Mobile’s last shot at injecting their business with much needed, almost guaranteed capital just went down the drain, IMO.

    So yeah, nail in the coffin, as much as I hate to admit it.  Granted, DT wants out of the game here in the U.S., but I can’t say that I’m surprised by this move, or lack thereof, by T-Mobile.  Seems to be par for the course.    

    (I’m an Android user btw (G2), so miss me with all the Apple fanboy talk)

    • kenshiro

      If all it takes for a mobile carrier to be successful is to carry an iPhone with devices like the GS2 and Nexus Prime available, there is something fundamentally flawed with our society.

      • trife

        I see where you’re coming from and I somewhat agree.  But it is what it is, I guess.  

        Consumers dictate sales, so either you legitimately compete w/ the other carriers or you go home.  Given T-Mobile’s current state, I think we can say that they HAVE competed…..just not well enough to ensure that they don’t get sent packin’.    

      • Anonymous

        It may be flawed from your perspective but thats your opinion. You need to accept the fact that its all about business and Apple is clearly better at it than most.  Look at how far they have come???  You have to realize that they (all hardware companies) are all in this to make money and not to make tech geeks like us happy.  Apple has just figured out the best formula and created an ecosystem around it.  Their very different way of doing things internally has allowed them to get to this point.  They created a business model that incorporates design, engineering, art and culture all into one major strategy.  And holy CRAP!! it works well!

        I can see why it upsets most of you because you see it from a technical perspective based on capability and potential use.  But remember, it’s about the mean and the average.  The Average user dominates the market.  Advertising and marketing exists because it works, if it didn’t than maybe your opinions would have more depth in the situaiton.  But until you realize science and technology are for the greater good of EVERYONE, technical and non-technical alike than you are always going to be disappointed.  At the core of it all is the human experience, and in this day and age its about tapping in to that to make the most money.

  • InsideSource

    For all you Apple fans….JUST CALM DOWN… TMO will be getting the iPhone 1st QTR 2012…It has been confirmed to me by upper level execs at TMO… Plans are for the iPhone 5 with HSDPA+ 42 megs…If you read between the lines, TMO CEO said TMO wont get iPhone 5 this year…what he didnt mention was weather TMO was getting it next year…

    • Ricktrann

      I wish that were true man… I really hope that’s true!!!

    • Sorry2breakit2u

      Inside source please fire the man who gives you your misguided information. If you haven’t noticed, tmobile is the only major carrier without the iPhone. Why you might ask? Because T-Mobile USA will cease to exist after the first quarter of next year. After everything is set and done AT&T will have to dilute some of their assets for the merger to be approved. DT, is looking to sell Tmobile USA, now a troubled asset, as they keep loosing customers quarter after quarter. Whether people like it or not, whether it’s AT&T or another tech/wireless giant, tmobile won’t be here for too long. Apple will not make a hspa+ 42 megs iPhone because the next iPhone will be a LTE compatible device. Why do you think sprint is now trying to spread their LTE footprints through light squared? Apple is creating a “universal” iPhone, one that can be used globally with any carrier, why would they create one specifically for tmobile USA? Doesn’t make much sense especially when the parent company wants to get rid of the rotten apple. Food for thought. And it wasn’t tmobile’s CEO that said that, it was their coo.

    • Sorry2breakit2u

      Inside source please fire the man who gives you your misguided information. If you haven’t noticed, tmobile is the only major carrier without the iPhone. Why you might ask? Because T-Mobile USA will cease to exist after the first quarter of next year. After everything is set and done AT&T will have to dilute some of their assets for the merger to be approved. DT, is looking to sell Tmobile USA, now a troubled asset, as they keep loosing customers quarter after quarter. Whether people like it or not, whether it’s AT&T or another tech/wireless giant, tmobile won’t be here for too long. Apple will not make a hspa+ 42 megs iPhone because the next iPhone will be a LTE compatible device. Why do you think sprint is now trying to spread their LTE footprints through light squared? Apple is creating a “universal” iPhone, one that can be used globally with any carrier, why would they create one specifically for tmobile USA? Doesn’t make much sense especially when the parent company wants to get rid of the rotten apple. Food for thought. And it wasn’t tmobile’s CEO that said that, it was their coo.

    • Guido

      What was left unsaid was that NOBODY is getting the iPhone5 this year!

  • Ricktrann

    DAVID, PLEASE ANSWER THIS.

    Does anyone know “for sure!” that the 4s will NOT work on tmo’s 3G frequencies yet???

    Or can we just go to apple, buy an unlocked, and “3G” here we come???

    Or does no one know definitively yet until the phone actually hits the shelves???

    Thanks

    Ricky

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/CeeGee-Borela/100000183782060 CeeGee Borela

      everyone knows for sure apparently except for you

      Tmobile 3g/4g runs on the AWS 1700/2100 band, the iPhone 4S(and every other GSM iPhone ever released) only has 850,1900 and 2100 bands for 3g and 4G

      if that doesnt clear it up for you then you should stop drinking Koolaide

  • Nearmsp

    Today I have been reflecting on all the posts and statements by all and sundry. What comes to my mind is that – the T-mobile CEO had the last laugh. He knew that there will not be an iPhone 5 and deliberately gave a kick to Apple by saying ‘T-mobile” is not getting the iPhone 5 this year”. Thereby adding to the frenzy of expectation for an iPhone 5. That said, Apple also needs to share the blame for the let down by being overly secretive to the point of not denying any of the hype that build over the last 15 months for an iPhone 5. If anyone remembers, I did post here  a few weeks back, that as a trader I sense a weakness in the Apple stock and I was taking profits and some one commented and said I know nothing about stocks. My gut feeling was right, the people in the know were booking profits. That said, there are millions of people who appreciate Apple products and the iPhone 4S will sell well. But Apple CEO’s honeymoon is over and he will need to show that Apple continues to believe in “wowing” its customers otherwise Apple stock will have peaked for the foreseeable future. I plan to sit out for another month to decide between an iPhone 4S and Samsung Galaxy SII. Neither of them have a “wow” factor for me to rush in. I need to watch the feedback of new iPhone users on the Sprint network if is indeed capable of providing the iPhone experience on its network. T-mobile has certainly bought itself some time.

    • Anonymous

      You aren’t seeing this from a business perspective and only your own.  Apple has the heart of the regular consumer. I’ve said this time and time again, your advanced, techincal perspective compares and scales nothing to a regular people who don’t read tech blogs.  They buy into the commercials and the hype and fall in love with what apple is feeding them.  It doesn’t have to be totally re-invented every time.  Look at the 3G and the 3GS, people said the same thing and the 3GS went on to dominate for a long time.  

      The CEO also didn’t get the last laugh, if anything hes bitter.  He knows he’s trying to promote a product that doesn’t want to exist anymore.  In other words, he’s trying to grow a company that doesnt really want to be grown anymore by the parent company.  Hell, another article on this site is already revealing DT’s pan B lol.  

      T-mobile hasn’t bought itself anytime imo because DT most likely doesn’t want it to have any more time.  If they could, they’d finish the transaction immediately and put an end to it.  Its an inconvenient likelihood but very likely none the less.

      • mrmiddl

         in correction, apple has the heart of a specific age group. most people over say 50 could care less, and the only really core group they have is teen to late 20′s because of its status symbol. 30 to 50 is about split because you have more technical and business professionals in that age group that use their phone for business/productivity ie. blackberry users

    • Anonymous

      You aren’t seeing this from a business perspective and only your own.  Apple has the heart of the regular consumer. I’ve said this time and time again, your advanced, techincal perspective compares and scales nothing to a regular people who don’t read tech blogs.  They buy into the commercials and the hype and fall in love with what apple is feeding them.  It doesn’t have to be totally re-invented every time.  Look at the 3G and the 3GS, people said the same thing and the 3GS went on to dominate for a long time.  

      The CEO also didn’t get the last laugh, if anything hes bitter.  He knows he’s trying to promote a product that doesn’t want to exist anymore.  In other words, he’s trying to grow a company that doesnt really want to be grown anymore by the parent company.  Hell, another article on this site is already revealing DT’s pan B lol.  

      T-mobile hasn’t bought itself anytime imo because DT most likely doesn’t want it to have any more time.  If they could, they’d finish the transaction immediately and put an end to it.  Its an inconvenient likelihood but very likely none the less.

  • Anonymous

    DT killed Tmo a longgg time ago with its screwed up managing ways.  Apple just let everyone down, thats all.

  • http://www.facebook.com/bellanca Cecilia Ernst

    Part of me thinks its a horrible idea for them to not pick up the iphone.  

    But literally just got done reading an article on CNN money about how some people think that picking up the iphone will be the end of sprint.  Apparently Sprint has had to make a huge financial gamble to carry the iphone, and possibly they bit off more than they can chew.   For one they have to purchase 30.5 million iphones whether or not they are able to sell them to customers.  The iphones are price fixed by apple, so its not like they can price them competitively with other smartphones if needed.  The Wall Street Journal says the deal could cost Sprint $20 billion.  

    So after reading that article I’m on the fence.  I feel that on one had T-mo could be missing out on a huge market of people, yet on the other hand if this is how they can keeep their prices down and stay competitive in some way then it is a good decision.  I for one will not be getting an iphone, even if it magically shows up on T-mo on iphone day. 

    • sino8r

      if that’s true… might be a huge part of why tmobile didnt! nice find!

    • sino8r

      if that’s true… might be a huge part of why tmobile didnt! nice find!

    • JT

      I’ve just been reading some of those articles myself. I think Sprint is kind of screwed. Now I’m sure they’ll sell quite a few since nobody on their network already has one and there are people that want them but I’ve been reading various sites and it seems the majority of people posting on the message boards are not happy. It’s not the upgrade that they thought it would be. I’m assuming that Sprint knew this wasn’t the iphone 5. Big gamble.