Five Myths About The T-Mobile/AT&T Takeover Courtesy Consumer Advocate Free Press

While the government remains caught between two very separate sides of the AT&T takeover of T-Mobile, consumer advocate group Free Press is continuing its approach of debunking AT&T’s argument that the takeover is necessary. In fact they’ve compiled a list of 5 myths tackling a number of AT&T’s core arguments that attempt to show that AT&T would be able or is already able to achieve the stated goals it has said it needs T-Mobile’s spectrum to accomplish. Let’s just dive right in with a big thank you to Josh Levy from Free Press for compiling these myths and sending it our way:

 

 

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  • http://twitter.com/Ac3of2pade2 Ac3of2pade2

    but what about T-Mobile. If the merger doesn’t go through will we have lte -_-

    • Richard Christopher Cardenas

      I think the real question is, will T-Mobile still be a company? Or will it be broken off in pieces to other companies…

    • Richard Christopher Cardenas

      I think the real question is, will T-Mobile still be a company? Or will it be broken off in pieces to other companies…

      • Shawn Perry

        I agree with Richard.  If TMO states they are loosing money, hence the agreement to be purchased by At&T, will TMO parent company pull out of the US to avoid what they call the lost of revenue?  

        • Anonymous

          Deutche telekom will maintain 8% share of AT&T when the deal goes through. Other than that they will have no other stake in the US market.

        • Silk7412

          You know I can’t wait to post this at fcc filing 11-65. !!!
          Going back to the dark ages of MaBell really sickens me.
          Those who think this is over should wait til the big lady sings.

        • Dominic

          Who’s losing money?  T-mobile has pretty large profits every year.  Even with bad 4th quarter they had last year they still made more money than the 4th Quarter in the previous year.  Sprint’s the only company hemorrhaging each and every year in the negative.

    • Jarrod

      We don’t need LTE right this minute so we will be fine as long as they continue expanding their hspa 42 network to cover areas that dont get service from them and covering their 2g network

    • Jarrod

      We don’t need LTE right this minute so we will be fine as long as they continue expanding their hspa 42 network to cover areas that dont get service from them and covering their 2g network

      • http://ashn.myopenid.com/ Ash

        Many stuck on the 4G, 3G….what really matter is the speed/ prices/ coverage.
        Not whatever Gs.

    • Anonymous

      Check the T-Mobile investment to improve the network compare to AT&T..

      And what about AT&T’s promise to increase its spending by $8 billion over the next six years?

      It’s a sleight of hand. The truth is, thanks to merger “synergies”
      that AT&T would create, the combined AT&T-T-Mobile would be
      spending $10 billion less over that period than the two companies would separately.

      Here’s how it breaks down: AT&T is promising to spend an
      additional $8 billion over the next six years if the merger goes
      through. (Forgetting for the moment though that AT&T would need to
      up its investment by that much even if the deal is blocked, to keep
      building out its own network and make up for its chronic
      under-investment). But T-Mobile, which has been much more aggressive
      than AT&T in building out high-speed wireless networks, would spend
      approximately $18 billion total in the same period if not acquired.
      That’s $18 billion in investment that would be lost if AT&T takes
      over T-Mobile.

      So do the math: $8 billion (AT&T’s new investment) minus $18 billion (lost T-Mobile investment) = negative $10 billion.

      Yes, AT&T — a company that is actually planning on reducing
      investment and firing workers — is getting away with spinning a
      fairytale about increased investment and new jobs. Let’s hope that the
      regulators at the FCC and Department of Justice are spending their days
      reading non-fiction, and leaving the fairytales for bedtime.

    • Anonymous

      Check the T-Mobile investment to improve the network compare to AT&T..

      And what about AT&T’s promise to increase its spending by $8 billion over the next six years?

      It’s a sleight of hand. The truth is, thanks to merger “synergies”
      that AT&T would create, the combined AT&T-T-Mobile would be
      spending $10 billion less over that period than the two companies would separately.

      Here’s how it breaks down: AT&T is promising to spend an
      additional $8 billion over the next six years if the merger goes
      through. (Forgetting for the moment though that AT&T would need to
      up its investment by that much even if the deal is blocked, to keep
      building out its own network and make up for its chronic
      under-investment). But T-Mobile, which has been much more aggressive
      than AT&T in building out high-speed wireless networks, would spend
      approximately $18 billion total in the same period if not acquired.
      That’s $18 billion in investment that would be lost if AT&T takes
      over T-Mobile.

      So do the math: $8 billion (AT&T’s new investment) minus $18 billion (lost T-Mobile investment) = negative $10 billion.

      Yes, AT&T — a company that is actually planning on reducing
      investment and firing workers — is getting away with spinning a
      fairytale about increased investment and new jobs. Let’s hope that the
      regulators at the FCC and Department of Justice are spending their days
      reading non-fiction, and leaving the fairytales for bedtime.

    • Anonymous

      Check the T-Mobile investment to improve the network compare to AT&T..

      And what about AT&T’s promise to increase its spending by $8 billion over the next six years?

      It’s a sleight of hand. The truth is, thanks to merger “synergies”
      that AT&T would create, the combined AT&T-T-Mobile would be
      spending $10 billion less over that period than the two companies would separately.

      Here’s how it breaks down: AT&T is promising to spend an
      additional $8 billion over the next six years if the merger goes
      through. (Forgetting for the moment though that AT&T would need to
      up its investment by that much even if the deal is blocked, to keep
      building out its own network and make up for its chronic
      under-investment). But T-Mobile, which has been much more aggressive
      than AT&T in building out high-speed wireless networks, would spend
      approximately $18 billion total in the same period if not acquired.
      That’s $18 billion in investment that would be lost if AT&T takes
      over T-Mobile.

      So do the math: $8 billion (AT&T’s new investment) minus $18 billion (lost T-Mobile investment) = negative $10 billion.

      Yes, AT&T — a company that is actually planning on reducing
      investment and firing workers — is getting away with spinning a
      fairytale about increased investment and new jobs. Let’s hope that the
      regulators at the FCC and Department of Justice are spending their days
      reading non-fiction, and leaving the fairytales for bedtime.

  • http://twitter.com/Ac3of2pade2 Ac3of2pade2

    but what about T-Mobile. If the merger doesn’t go through will we have lte -_-

  • http://twitter.com/Ac3of2pade2 Ac3of2pade2

    but what about T-Mobile. If the merger doesn’t go through will we have lte -_-

  • Anonymous

    if the buyout doesnt go through, i have a feeling someone else will buy tmobile at a lower price. Hopefully whoever buys us is smart and turns the company around.   With good leadership, Tmobile could be a force to reckon with.  The current leadership has failed horribly.

    • Anonymous

      Blame Dobson

      • just saying

        Dotson*

        • Anonymous

          Yeah

    • Richard Christopher Cardenas

      We should all write Justin Timberlake, and convince him to buy T-Mobile if the deal falls through. 
      He seems to have a sudden interest in failing or companies falling apart(Myspace) ;)

    • i miss the beach

      Im reading your series right now kinslayer !

    • i miss the beach

      Im reading your series right now kinslayer !

  • Anonymous

    if the buyout doesnt go through, i have a feeling someone else will buy tmobile at a lower price. Hopefully whoever buys us is smart and turns the company around.   With good leadership, Tmobile could be a force to reckon with.  The current leadership has failed horribly.

  • Anonymous

    TMobile doesnt need lte to survive. Hspa+ is doing them fine right now. All they have to do is stop trying to be Att and Verizon with the stupid unstable plans and policy changes and give the customers the same treatment that the former “get more” TMobile gave and provided. Things will go back to the way they were.

    Copying Att and verizon is what got them in trouble. You don’t kick the customers that have supported you for years and helped bring you subscribers, in the knees and expect to still be able to stand firmly.

    You gonna fall flat.

    • Anonymous

      i agree!

    • Anonymous

      T-Mo has great plans, good service, good customer service and great phones. There’s just one problem. COVERAGE. That is why they can’t keep the customers they have. They would love to stay with T-Mo but just can’t justify keeping them when there is no service in their home or offices. Sprint’s problem wasn’t coverage but bad customer service. They since turned that around and now they’re doing better. T-Mo could be doing so much better if only they had better coverage. 

      • Mopar6464

        Absolutely the truth.
        10 minutes outside the major cities and you drop staright to Edge service while paying for 3G/ 4G pricing.
        All the HSPA+ service don’t mean crap if it’s limited to a very small area.

      • Mopar6464

        Absolutely the truth.
        10 minutes outside the major cities and you drop staright to Edge service while paying for 3G/ 4G pricing.
        All the HSPA+ service don’t mean crap if it’s limited to a very small area.

        • Yancy

          You are not paying any extra for 4G/3G services. Sprint charges 10 dollars for their 4G service to people that only get 3G/2G. So be glad T-mobile is working on it and not charging you more for something your not getting.

        • Mopar6464

          I Did’nt say Extra , i said Paying for 3G/4G service while receiving Edge data speeds.
          Reread my post and maybe you will figure it out.

        • Mopar6464

          I Did’nt say Extra , i said Paying for 3G/4G service while receiving Edge data speeds.
          Reread my post and maybe you will figure it out.

        • Anonymous

          What’s the difference than from AT&T? Pay their 2x T-Mobile prices while getting dropped calls and exorbitant data prices. I guess you prefer the latter.

        • Mopar6464

          In my Area it’s a Big Difference.
          AT&T and Verizon rules in actual full coverage but yes it’s twice the price.
          Atleast you know what your paying for and not lied to about this great 3G/4G coverage, not to mention T-mobile’s HSPA+ that’s suppose to be in my area and i’m constantly on Edge data.
          Largest 4G , my azz. In very limited areas.

        • Anonymous

          What’s the difference than from AT&T? Pay their 2x T-Mobile prices while getting dropped calls and exorbitant data prices. I guess you prefer the latter.

      • Mopar6464

        Absolutely the truth.
        10 minutes outside the major cities and you drop staright to Edge service while paying for 3G/ 4G pricing.
        All the HSPA+ service don’t mean crap if it’s limited to a very small area.

      • Mopar6464

        Absolutely the truth.
        10 minutes outside the major cities and you drop staright to Edge service while paying for 3G/ 4G pricing.
        All the HSPA+ service don’t mean crap if it’s limited to a very small area.

      • Mopar6464

        Absolutely the truth.
        10 minutes outside the major cities and you drop staright to Edge service while paying for 3G/ 4G pricing.
        All the HSPA+ service don’t mean crap if it’s limited to a very small area.

      • Mopar6464

        Absolutely the truth.
        10 minutes outside the major cities and you drop staright to Edge service while paying for 3G/ 4G pricing.
        All the HSPA+ service don’t mean crap if it’s limited to a very small area.

      • Mopar6464

        Absolutely the truth.
        10 minutes outside the major cities and you drop staright to Edge service while paying for 3G/ 4G pricing.
        All the HSPA+ service don’t mean crap if it’s limited to a very small area.

      • Mopar6464

        Absolutely the truth.
        10 minutes outside the major cities and you drop staright to Edge service while paying for 3G/ 4G pricing.
        All the HSPA+ service don’t mean crap if it’s limited to a very small area.

      • Mopar6464

        Absolutely the truth.
        10 minutes outside the major cities and you drop staright to Edge service while paying for 3G/ 4G pricing.
        All the HSPA+ service don’t mean crap if it’s limited to a very small area.

      • Richard Christopher Cardenas

        I agree with most of what you’re saying, except in the past year, their Customer Service has really gone down hill. 

        I refuse to call anymore, I go into the stores and let the Salesmen deal with cs and get what I need done there. 

        • yougottabefnjk

          Thanks you lazy jerk…. Want me to tie your shoes as well?

        • Richard Christopher Cardenas

          Well lucky you I have my shoe laces pre-tied so I don’t have to tie them every time I put my shoes on! 

          And you know it’s not like I go in all the time and have the Salesmen or your CS at the stores take care of the issue I may have. I don’t have constant issues that are major problems. 

          I would rather go through you guys then sit on hold for hours at a time when calling CS, and then put up with their new jerk like attitudes. The in-store people have better attitudes and are more willing to help then the customer service on the phone!

          Plus the only time I even go into the stores is to pay my bill, or if I am lucky enough to have money to by a new phone! That is when I may bring up an issue if I have one!

        • tevroc

          Thats wierd..  I found the phone support to be great.  I only go to the store when i need to try out or purchase a product.  Why would you go to the store to pay your bill?  This is 2011.  We have the internet now.  

  • Chris M

    Where’s he getting the 20k fired employees figure in fact one? I’m pretty sure that’s not something at&t would just come out and say. Unless that figure has something to back it up its just speculation

    • Dominic

      Most of them probably come from the retail side of things.  Why have store reps when an AT&T shop is down the street.  I probably see a lot of call centers being closed too.

  • Hippiesblow

    Yet more hippies with an ax to grind.
    Boo hoo hoo big corporations are evil.
    These hippies need to get a job.
    Initially there could be loss of positions.. Welcome to the business world hippies.
    Gee I wonder how many jobs might be created though.

    • Anonymous

      Seriously??  Were your parent’s brother and sister? Get a clue moron! Jobs are NOT being created fast enough for the number of people out of work. Big companies ARE the problem for a number of reasons. First, they are sending the majority of the jobs to India or Mexico because they can pay pennies on the dollar for the labor force. Second, they DON’T pay their fair share of taxes, third, just as in this case, when things aren’t going the way they want, they try to manipulate the legal system to win! Remember that whole “too big to fail” bailout your hero “W.” forced on us?  Yeah, we gave a TRILLION dollars to Wall Street so they would relax credit and start making loans again as well as pay us back. Guess what Mr. Business world? NONE OF THAT HAS HAPPENED!!!! Wall Street is STILL ripping us off along with the banks, big oil and every other large corporate entity in this country. Maybe you should actually KNOW something about the business world before trying to lecture people about it!

      • Hippiesblow

        Hippy

        • tevroc

          look everybody!!  Its Rush Limbaugh, right here at tmonews!! 

      • Hippiesblow

        Hippy

      • Seriously>?

        Seriously? need help .

    • Gm Aharrington1

      Lmao, you have no clue! Call AT&T customer service and ask them where are they located. Better yet try and understand what they are saying. I called for my mother-in-law and had to give the phone to my friend that speaks Punjabi, Hindi, and English because I could not understand anything customer care was saying. So, in a sense I guess your right about more jobs; unfortunately an increase in outsourced jobs to India does not help Americans that will become unemployed. AT&T also does not allow sideloading for apps on their android phones.

      • Hippiesblow

        Tblow outsourced to the ragheads to.

        • Oreo

          Haven’t talked to one yet buddy.

        • TMOrep

          Partly right but mostly wrong.  98% of our customer care is here in the U.S.A with 23 call centers across the country.   We do have some outsourced departments like Telesales, FlexPay and Prepaid.  They are outsourced to an American company and we can’t control where they chose to have their call centers. Due to the number of calls that we get on a daily basis I have come to understand that it has been necessary to have help from other companies to answer those calls.  It is cheaper for T-Mobile to pay another company for the number of calls they take then to build several more call centers and staff them with several hundred employees each.  There’s no doubt that if this buyout doesn’t go through, you will see a much stronger and better T-Mobile, we just need to get rid of Mr. Humm, and get someone that knows what they are doing as CEO and not someone that just wants to sell us off and ruin us.  Humm can’t be trusted and has lied to everyone since he got here.

        • Anonymous

          In terms of General Care/Billing support which is the portal most customers go through, General Care does source some Billing calls to outsourced call centers during high volume (if you work for T-Mobile this is most of the time.) My call center is understaffed in my location. T-Mobile doesn’t need more centers they simply need more reps. As reps quit or are fired (the natural attrition AT&T is talking about) no more are being hired to make up for it. My center alone is down to 350 (not counting leave of absence which accounts for about 20% of the work force) with an all time high employment of 650. I imagine if other centers are in a similar position this explains the increase in outsourced call complaints as more calls are passed to service partners due to call volume.

        • TMOrep

          Partly right but mostly wrong.  98% of our customer care is here in the U.S.A with 23 call centers across the country.   We do have some outsourced departments like Telesales, FlexPay and Prepaid.  They are outsourced to an American company and we can’t control where they chose to have their call centers. Due to the number of calls that we get on a daily basis I have come to understand that it has been necessary to have help from other companies to answer those calls.  It is cheaper for T-Mobile to pay another company for the number of calls they take then to build several more call centers and staff them with several hundred employees each.  There’s no doubt that if this buyout doesn’t go through, you will see a much stronger and better T-Mobile, we just need to get rid of Mr. Humm, and get someone that knows what they are doing as CEO and not someone that just wants to sell us off and ruin us.  Humm can’t be trusted and has lied to everyone since he got here.

        • tevroc

          I’ve called tmo a number of times and i always seem to get someone who sounds like they’re from the midwest.  *shrug*

        • tevroc

          I’ve called tmo a number of times and i always seem to get someone who sounds like they’re from the midwest.  *shrug*

      • Hippiesblow

        Tblow outsourced to the ragheads to.

    • http://profiles.google.com/jeffshaught Jeff Haught

      Just based on the horrible sentence structure and grammar that I was in for a real doozie with this crazy rant.

      • Hippiesblow

        Ouch that hurts.

    • ATTisTheSameOleMonopoly

      Its not that Big Business is evil, its that Big Business is greedy. the more they get the more they want. This merger is not going to create anymore jobs, or help the economy. Its just a ploy by ATT to once again become the only phone company in America. Next they will be making plays at cricket, sprint,Metro PCS and eventually Verizon. ATT was already forced to break up once, why are we letting them rebuild? With less carriers, there’s less competition, less phones, less innovation, higher prices, and in the end Americans just plain loose. 

    • ATTisTheSameOleMonopoly

      Its not that Big Business is evil, its that Big Business is greedy. the more they get the more they want. This merger is not going to create anymore jobs, or help the economy. Its just a ploy by ATT to once again become the only phone company in America. Next they will be making plays at cricket, sprint,Metro PCS and eventually Verizon. ATT was already forced to break up once, why are we letting them rebuild? With less carriers, there’s less competition, less phones, less innovation, higher prices, and in the end Americans just plain loose. 

  • David

    People all ready know this though, it still is better for it to happen than not. More coverage is better than lower prices, if you need lower prices switch too Sprint.

    • Mopar6464

      Bingo , we have a winner .

    • Not that simple

      You are entitled to your opinion however it is not the same for everyone. I seldom have an issue with coverage and would be very happy to keep the better customer service, prices, and speed (at least in the areas I am in) not to mention a friendlier environment towards Android (AT&T has been improving in this area). 

      Narrowing the debate down to coverage, in this case for you since it isn’t an issue for me, is simplistic. All carriers will perform at different levels in different areas. For people that find they are frequently in areas with weak reception they can, and maybe should, switch to a carrier that has better coverage for them. 

      It is akin to saying you should live in a house X because it is larger than house Y. Larger might not be better for me. I might prefer to have the better plumbing, nicer fixtures, and the better roof of house Y. Now if you need to have a larger house by all means, go get the bigger house, but don’t impose it on me because it is your opinion. I would suggest that if you need more coverage switch to Verizon.

    • Not that simple

      You are entitled to your opinion however it is not the same for everyone. I seldom have an issue with coverage and would be very happy to keep the better customer service, prices, and speed (at least in the areas I am in) not to mention a friendlier environment towards Android (AT&T has been improving in this area). 

      Narrowing the debate down to coverage, in this case for you since it isn’t an issue for me, is simplistic. All carriers will perform at different levels in different areas. For people that find they are frequently in areas with weak reception they can, and maybe should, switch to a carrier that has better coverage for them. 

      It is akin to saying you should live in a house X because it is larger than house Y. Larger might not be better for me. I might prefer to have the better plumbing, nicer fixtures, and the better roof of house Y. Now if you need to have a larger house by all means, go get the bigger house, but don’t impose it on me because it is your opinion. I would suggest that if you need more coverage switch to Verizon.

    • Not that simple

      You are entitled to your opinion however it is not the same for everyone. I seldom have an issue with coverage and would be very happy to keep the better customer service, prices, and speed (at least in the areas I am in) not to mention a friendlier environment towards Android (AT&T has been improving in this area). 

      Narrowing the debate down to coverage, in this case for you since it isn’t an issue for me, is simplistic. All carriers will perform at different levels in different areas. For people that find they are frequently in areas with weak reception they can, and maybe should, switch to a carrier that has better coverage for them. 

      It is akin to saying you should live in a house X because it is larger than house Y. Larger might not be better for me. I might prefer to have the better plumbing, nicer fixtures, and the better roof of house Y. Now if you need to have a larger house by all means, go get the bigger house, but don’t impose it on me because it is your opinion. I would suggest that if you need more coverage switch to Verizon.

    • Not that simple

      You are entitled to your opinion however it is not the same for everyone. I seldom have an issue with coverage and would be very happy to keep the better customer service, prices, and speed (at least in the areas I am in) not to mention a friendlier environment towards Android (AT&T has been improving in this area). 

      Narrowing the debate down to coverage, in this case for you since it isn’t an issue for me, is simplistic. All carriers will perform at different levels in different areas. For people that find they are frequently in areas with weak reception they can, and maybe should, switch to a carrier that has better coverage for them. 

      It is akin to saying you should live in a house X because it is larger than house Y. Larger might not be better for me. I might prefer to have the better plumbing, nicer fixtures, and the better roof of house Y. Now if you need to have a larger house by all means, go get the bigger house, but don’t impose it on me because it is your opinion. I would suggest that if you need more coverage switch to Verizon.

    • Anonymous

      You are so wrong. At&t has LOUSY coverage, they drop calls and their data speed is WAAAAYYYY slower than Verizon or T-Mobile. There is NO good reason for this takeover to happen. Just look at history, whenever competition is stifled, (ie; a company having no competitors), the consumer is the one who pays. It will lead to a slow down in innovation, obviously higher prices, a steep decline in service and pretty much ends up with the way things are in the U.S. with companies acting as though they are doing the consumer a favor by allowing them to pay for the product. If YOU need better COVERAGE, switch to Verizon!

  • Bob.

    I retired from at&t and I keep in touch and they are indeed getting rid of people. I used to have them as a wireless but I like T-Mobile better for price on what they offer and for the wifi calling which comes in very handy in a lot of places. Two things I am concerned anout in this merger. Higher prices and wifi calling.

  • Enoel69

    Point to point…this refutes all reasons made by Att for the need for Tmo spectrum. The main goal here is to knock off a key competitor and be the sole GSM lord of lords. Hope the FCC and DOJ  put this to rest so Tmo can start working on improving their network and increase its customer base. OR if DT is still itchy to sell…Google please step up and buy Tmobile and make it the true Android hub for vanilla Android devices

  • Enoel69

    Point to point…this refutes all reasons made by Att for the need for Tmo spectrum. The main goal here is to knock off a key competitor and be the sole GSM lord of lords. Hope the FCC and DOJ  put this to rest so Tmo can start working on improving their network and increase its customer base. OR if DT is still itchy to sell…Google please step up and buy Tmobile and make it the true Android hub for vanilla Android devices

  • Enoel69

    Point to point…this refutes all reasons made by Att for the need for Tmo spectrum. The main goal here is to knock off a key competitor and be the sole GSM lord of lords. Hope the FCC and DOJ  put this to rest so Tmo can start working on improving their network and increase its customer base. OR if DT is still itchy to sell…Google please step up and buy Tmobile and make it the true Android hub for vanilla Android devices

  • Enoel69

    Point to point…this refutes all reasons made by Att for the need for Tmo spectrum. The main goal here is to knock off a key competitor and be the sole GSM lord of lords. Hope the FCC and DOJ  put this to rest so Tmo can start working on improving their network and increase its customer base. OR if DT is still itchy to sell…Google please step up and buy Tmobile and make it the true Android hub for vanilla Android devices

  • Enoel69

    Point to point…this refutes all reasons made by Att for the need for Tmo spectrum. The main goal here is to knock off a key competitor and be the sole GSM lord of lords. Hope the FCC and DOJ  put this to rest so Tmo can start working on improving their network and increase its customer base. OR if DT is still itchy to sell…Google please step up and buy Tmobile and make it the true Android hub for vanilla Android devices

  • Enoel69

    Point to point…this refutes all reasons made by Att for the need for Tmo spectrum. The main goal here is to knock off a key competitor and be the sole GSM lord of lords. Hope the FCC and DOJ  put this to rest so Tmo can start working on improving their network and increase its customer base. OR if DT is still itchy to sell…Google please step up and buy Tmobile and make it the true Android hub for vanilla Android devices

  • Enoel69

    Point to point…this refutes all reasons made by Att for the need for Tmo spectrum. The main goal here is to knock off a key competitor and be the sole GSM lord of lords. Hope the FCC and DOJ  put this to rest so Tmo can start working on improving their network and increase its customer base. OR if DT is still itchy to sell…Google please step up and buy Tmobile and make it the true Android hub for vanilla Android devices

  • Enoel69

    Point to point…this refutes all reasons made by Att for the need for Tmo spectrum. The main goal here is to knock off a key competitor and be the sole GSM lord of lords. Hope the FCC and DOJ  put this to rest so Tmo can start working on improving their network and increase its customer base. OR if DT is still itchy to sell…Google please step up and buy Tmobile and make it the true Android hub for vanilla Android devices

  • Enoel69

    Point to point…this refutes all reasons made by Att for the need for Tmo spectrum. The main goal here is to knock off a key competitor and be the sole GSM lord of lords. Hope the FCC and DOJ  put this to rest so Tmo can start working on improving their network and increase its customer base. OR if DT is still itchy to sell…Google please step up and buy Tmobile and make it the true Android hub for vanilla Android devices

    • Mopar6464

      Google does’nt want T-Mobile or they would of put that bid in by now.
      Sprint does but they don’t have the capital either and their network is not compatable with GSM so it would be another technology nightmare if they did.

      • Gm Aharrington1

        Sprint could buy T-mobile or vice versa. The whole CDMA/GSM and working or not working is easily resolved. First of all both Sprint and Verizon have world phones that work on both networks. Second there are chipsets made by Qualcomm that are called Gobi. They work on CDMA,UMTS, and EV-DO. So, they start including them in their phones and no issue as far as spectrum. Besides GSM is more secure and a better network.

        • Mopar6464

          Oh really , if it is all that easy then why could’nt Sprint covert Iden from their Nextel purchase and easily convert that to their Crappy Wimax ?
          Because it cost alot of money , just like it will cost alot of money for Spint to convert T-Mobile  towers from GSM to CDMA or vice versa.
          Sure new chipsets coming out lately are allowing GSM/CDMA to be used in one phone but you still need the towers and Sprint don’t have any GSM towers. So now they will have to maintain the GSM towers along with their Crappy Wimax/CDMA towers if they bought T-mobile or covert alot of towers over to one system.
          And they don’y have the funds for all that , they can’t even take care of the Iden nightmare they currently have. 

        • Gm Aharrington1

          First off iden is completely different than anything else. Second of all if you acquire someone elses company you get their towers and their spectrum. You wouldn’t need to convert right away. Introduce phones with the Gobi chip and if Sprint partners with lightsquared they wouldn’t have to worry about converting the towers. Just put the new lightsquared lte technology into all the towers and problem solved. You also realize that Sprint and T-mobile both bounce off of each others towers as it is now?

        • Anonymous

          T-Mobile and Sprint do not currently tower share or have roaming agreements due to the fact that the technology that the towers use to distribute signal are incompatible. Sprint uses Code Division Multiple Access (CDMA) to connect as opposed to Time Division Multiple Access (TDMA/GSM) 

          The best analogy I can come up with on short notice is with diesel and gasoline engines, you don’t put gas in a diesel and you don’t put diesel in a gas engine. (as this would be very bad) The both accomplish the same end result but do it just a bit differently (not to mention diesel/CDMA are more efficient, which is why LTE will be CDMA based (W-CDMA.)

          There is a lot more to this but this should get you started on understanding

          If sprint were to purchase T-Mobile their best bet would to not combine networks immediately. In my own less than educated opinion it would be best to use existing spectrum between the two to create a 3gpp lte network and re-utilize the old spectrum for LTE-Advanced when ready down the road as the network frees up. 

        • Gm Aharrington1

          They do have roaming agreements, this is part of reason why Sprint is upset about merger. Research it. As far as your diesel and gas analogy; your wrong. The M35 “deuce and a half truck” that the US Army has been using since 1951 has a multifuel engine that can run off of diesel fuel, jet fuel, kerosene, heating oil, or gasoline. Does this mean your misinformed about a lot of other things?

        • http://twitter.com/Tito_1 Felipe Zamora

          Your argument is DUMB. Are you seriously saying that an engine that CAN take multiple fuels is proof that a regular gasoline engine can take diesel, or a diesel engine can take gasoline. . .  Its just an analogy. . .Al you had to say is look at this link that proves you are wrong, not smash yourself into a wall.

        • Gm Aharrington1

          Obviously the post was above your intellectual capacity. If I don’t spell it out I have less educated making more dumb comments.

        • Mopar6464

          Oh really , if it is all that easy then why could’nt Sprint covert Iden from their Nextel purchase and easily convert that to their Crappy Wimax ?
          Because it cost alot of money , just like it will cost alot of money for Spint to convert T-Mobile  towers from GSM to CDMA or vice versa.
          Sure new chipsets coming out lately are allowing GSM/CDMA to be used in one phone but you still need the towers and Sprint don’t have any GSM towers. So now they will have to maintain the GSM towers along with their Crappy Wimax/CDMA towers if they bought T-mobile or covert alot of towers over to one system.
          And they don’y have the funds for all that , they can’t even take care of the Iden nightmare they currently have. 

        • BigMixxx

           Sprint does not have the free capital to finance such a large purchase.  They just wrote down 24 billion in debt from the nextel purchase a couple years ago.  Banks won’t loan to finance such another large purchase.

          i’m sticking with tmobile until it dies; if it is not approved and the company goes public to stir up cash, I’m investing..  if not, then i will make my choice…

  • alt-mobile

    Myth:  Current T-Mobile customers will be taken care of by AT&T after the merger and will not have their prices on their current plans go up.

    Fact:  We’re all screwed..

  • Mr_g_threepwood

    The fun thing is, during the proceedings a couple months ago, everything that came off AT&T’s table could immediately be called BS.

  • Mr_g_threepwood

    The fun thing is, during the proceedings a couple months ago, everything that came off AT&T’s table could immediately be called BS.

  • Mr_g_threepwood

    The fun thing is, during the proceedings a couple months ago, everything that came off AT&T’s table could immediately be called BS.

  • Overnightnews

    Josh Levy’s article is very profound and filled with facts.  His very last sentence says it all, and I so hope that the FCC and DOJ will not only see this piece, but will carefully read and digest all of its meaning.  AT&T “merged” with Cingular not too long ago, but the action was mis-labeled – AT&T devoured Cingular, took over the Company, and they just disappeared, never to be heard from again.  I have been a very satisfied T-Mobile customer for ten years.  They excel in what they offer Consumers by way of Customer Service, Customer Relations and Product – and all within a tolerable price range.  If this “merger” is allowed to go through, the only Winners will be AT&T and Deutsche Telekom —- the enormous LOSERS:  The Consumers.

    • Dpro

      Ah you are mistaken on your assumption that AT&T devoured Cingular. SBC owns AT&T and actually switched their name to AT&T . You need to get your facts straight. SBC bought AT&T wireless and folded it into Cingular. Then they bought AT&T long distance and renamed their whole company AT&T. How many times do I have to post this fact?Some of you guys really need to do the research and know what you are talking about before commenting. Otherwise it totally discounts the validity of your comments..

      • Richard Christopher Cardenas

        As you are right! And you prolly will have to post this several more times at one point or another, there is one thing we can’t deny.The name At&t is still around and devouring other companies!
        No matter the owner, and company they originally were.It’s a name we can’t get rid.

        At&t is an evil entity that must be destroyed! 

        • ATTisTheSameOleMonopoly

          American Telephone and Telegraph just like Standard Oil, Ford Motor Company, and  Anheuser-Busch wil forever be the pillars of Big Business in America

      • ATTisTheSameOleMonopoly

        That’s not entirely true. After the government forced ATT to break up in the 80s, SBC (one of new created baby bells from Texas), in the late 90s started buying up most of the other Baby Bells.  Cingular wireless was a joint venture between SBC and BellSouth. After SBC brought BellSouth it had full ownership of BOTH Cingular wireless and the ATT trademark (the “old” AT&T long distance carrier that they bought and the “new” AT&T mobility aka att wireless). 

      • Anonymous

        Well stated Dpro. I have no idea why everyone things AT&T bought Cingular. Your facts are 100% correct. Well done.

      • Anonymous

        Well stated Dpro. I have no idea why everyone things AT&T bought Cingular. Your facts are 100% correct. Well done.

    • Dpro

      Ah you are mistaken on your assumption that AT&T devoured Cingular. SBC owns AT&T and actually switched their name to AT&T . You need to get your facts straight. SBC bought AT&T wireless and folded it into Cingular. Then they bought AT&T long distance and renamed their whole company AT&T. How many times do I have to post this fact?Some of you guys really need to do the research and know what you are talking about before commenting. Otherwise it totally discounts the validity of your comments..

  • zps

    i pray to jesus that this merger is nixed.  FCC do your job!

    • Daniel7992

      Either way, there will be no more tmobile. This is the one think a lot of people don’t seem to understand. Tmobile USA is in trouble and will not survive without help. Sprint is constantly crying foul about the buyout (not a merger),but they just recently tried to purchase tmobile. I guess that would have been okay with people.

    • Daniel7992

      Either way, there will be no more tmobile. This is the one think a lot of people don’t seem to understand. Tmobile USA is in trouble and will not survive without help. Sprint is constantly crying foul about the buyout (not a merger),but they just recently tried to purchase tmobile. I guess that would have been okay with people.

      • http://hiromasaki.livejournal.com/ hiromasaki

        Based on last year’s numbers (I can’t find any for this year) if AT&T merges with T-Mo, they’ll have 37% of the market, Verizon will have 31% of the market, and Sprint will have 12%.  If T-Mo and Sprint merged instead, they would be just next to AT&T.

        The market dynamics in a 3-way race are drastically different from those in a 2-way race.  And with AT&T-Mo and Verizon having each well over double what Sprint does, there is little Sprint can do to make them change their plans or policies to compete.

  • Fray Contreras

    You know… I just realized that Sprint is starting to get good phones. So I dont see how this would affect them. I mean they did say that ATT always has phones and not sprint. It looks like Sprint is getting crazy phones now.

    MEEERGE DAMMIT MEEERGE!

  • Schippma

    Each and every day, I am beginning to think more and more that DT made an arrangement with AT&T as a last cry for help. In order for T-Mobile to compete with AT&T, Verizon, and Sprint, they need more spectrum. In this deal, if it fails, they will gain capitol and spectrum, all of which is needed for T-Mobile to grow. If the deal fails, which it seems more and more that it will as each day passes, then T-Mo will have more resources to use to expand its network.

    I think DT was extremely smart in this potential acquisition since DT wins either way. If DT really wanted out of the US market, why would they want more spectrum from AT&T if the deal fails? Perhaps to gain more spectrum to look good to another potential buyer, but I honestly think DT, in a very sly and brilliant way, is trying to gain spectrum to continue to compete with the big guys.

    • Richard Christopher Cardenas

      We could only hope! 

    • Respawn

      *fingers crossed*

  • Anonymous

    There’s ONE COLD HARD TRUTH:
    JOB REDUCTION IS ALWAYS A BY-PRODUCT OF ACQUISTION AND MERGER, NO EXCEPTION!!!!!

  • Anonymous

    There’s ONE COLD HARD TRUTH:
    JOB REDUCTION IS ALWAYS A BY-PRODUCT OF ACQUISTION AND MERGER, NO EXCEPTION!!!!!

    • http://www.thatsitguys.com/ Meleniumshane90

      So’s Caps Lock apparently

    • http://www.thatsitguys.com/ Meleniumshane90

      So’s Caps Lock apparently

  • Anonymous

    There’s ONE COLD HARD TRUTH:
    JOB REDUCTION IS ALWAYS A BY-PRODUCT OF ACQUISTION AND MERGER, NO EXCEPTION!!!!!

  • Anonymous

    Stupid ass fcc put the two bells back together. there was a reason they were split up back in the day, qnd someone said back in the 80s this would happen again. just a matter of time before they mess up again.

  • http://www.fiftyonemarketing.com Deacon

    just get it over with already … merge if you’re gonna merge … and shut it down FCC if you’re gonna shut it down so customers know what to do either stick it out with TMO or prepare to be assimilated by ATT.

    • DetroitTechnoFan

      stick with T-Mobile or jump ship to Sprint, but never, EVER allow yourself to be assimilated by AT&T!

      • someguyposting

        I am very unsatisfied with AT&T wireless services ad customer support. They are so bad that the lack of consistent excellent service quality spreads to other areas like AT&T Home & Internet. 

        T-Mobile is getting tarnished by AT&T. Unfortunately, many changes have occurred in T-Mobiles attitude toward the customer (although I’m not saying they are like AT&T completely). Fortunately, there is little hope left in them, but they are dying like the Jedi. 

        I have already jumped ship. It was great being with T-Mobile while it lasted. 

      • http://www.fiftyonemarketing.com Deacon

        they’re the Borg … resistance is futile lol

  • Winning

    The merger is already taking place. I call T mobile CS often and I see they already start to act more and more like AT&T.

    • Anonymous

      Because DT isn’t paying an allowance to (or investing in) T-Mobile USA anymore. In order for the company to stay profitable and self sustaining so they can invest in network expansion (expansion previously paid for by the parent company) reps are basically asked to make sure they sell features or they lose their job. There is a lot more to it, but the focus has moved from courtesy and concern to resolve and sell.

      • theWayofThings

        Agreed… I see a lot of complaints about how the level of customer services has been on a downward slide, and of course the reps are taking the blame… I wish every complainer could have the opportunity to be a t-mobile customer care rep for a week… It is all smiles from management while they hold the headsman’s axe over the reps’ necks… Do more FASTER, resolve if you can, but above all else.. SELL SOMETHING!!! …. and every month the bar is raised higher, the tolerance is lowered, and the pressure is increased…

        Reps were told all downsizing would be accomplished through “natural attrition”.. what that meant was T-mobile is going to fire as many reps as possible and drive as many more to quit…  and this very real campaign of downsizing through “natural attrition” has been going quite successfully..

        So perhaps ATT isn’t going to have to fire 20,000 employees… T-mobile could very well have that taken care of by the time the acquisition goes through…

        • Anonymous

          I have 4 words for you, GET A NEW JOB!!!! That job sucks ass anyway.

        • TheWayOfThings

           Easy words to say in an over-saturated job-market like it is here… but not as simple to accomplish.

        • TheWayOfThings

           Easy words to say in an over-saturated job-market like it is here… but not as simple to accomplish.

        • tmosalesFL

          same thing in sales they keep pushing for to do more and more and more want us to call 5 businesses a day they are holding the strictest quotas ever and willing to fire some one after one month of not hitting goal we are doing all this work when we will not have no tmobile anymore wat  waste of time and stress 

        • tmosalesFL

          same thing in sales they keep pushing for to do more and more and more want us to call 5 businesses a day they are holding the strictest quotas ever and willing to fire some one after one month of not hitting goal we are doing all this work when we will not have no tmobile anymore wat  waste of time and stress 

        • Anonymous

          I can appreciate and understand T-Mobile’s stance on the issue. On the corporate level they have to do more with less. Unfortunately that boils down to the rep level in the end game, the very people who interact with the customer. The customer seeing the reps point of view might make them understand but in the long run that won’t matter, what matters is that they get the issue resolved and that they don’t have to think about it. For the customer, things should just work.

          It really does put a lot of stress on the representatives, but the alternate option is to either run a business that can’t sustain its own growth (if you aren’t growing you’re shrinking. Five points if you know where this comes from) You deal with it, or you charge Verizon prices. T-Mobile doesn’t have the network to charge Verizon prices an no one wants the whole company to go under so we are left with the final option. I don’t like it anymore than anyone else, but I do like T-Mobile, and I do like my paycheck. Its worth it. (just less worth it than it used to be, still more worth it than working at wal-mart :D) 

    • Gmai

      they told me I coud change my data plan when I made my order and to call later. When I called next day they said sorry it can’t be done and that rep that sold me phone was wrong. this is like ATT all over again.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Paul-Reed/1530570047 Paul Reed

    everybody, spread this article to the ignorant masses NOW!

    • H8stylist

      last i heard, sheep haven’t learned how to read yet.

      although, they seem to be able to work iphones ok

      • Respawn

        Ha. Good one.

    • http://ashn.myopenid.com/ Ash

      Sadly, most ignorant masses remains ignorant no matter what they read…

  • Yancy

    Im glad some people have their head out of they a*s and see the real damage this deal poses for Americans and most importantly T-Mobile customers.

  • LetsDo4G

    This merger is not a done deal. Some of the financial talking heads (like Mad Money’s Jim Cramer) are now saying it is less likely to get approved. Just a month ago, Cramer was saying this was a done deal but he knows the winds are changing. Several states are now serving subpoena’s to AT&T and Sprint so they must believe there is more to the story than what AT&T is telling. I also thought this was a done deal a couple of months ago, but the more facts I see about this deal, the more it sounds like AT&T is being less than truthful about why they are doing this merger. There are too many things which don’t add up, like the fact that T-Mobile will only provide AT&T with 1% more nationwide coverage, so how will this merger help with expanding into rural areas. The truth is that AT&T has neglected to invest in their network like Verizon and Sprint have and now they are very far behind in building out their 4G network. Also, with rumors that T-Mobile is getting the iPhone in September as well, they are taking out the lowest cost nationwide competitor as AT&T sees writing on the wall that they will lose significant customers to T-Mobile and Sprint. By taking out T-Mobile, this will help them to reduce the customer defections. If this merger does go through, there will be so many divestitures and conditions placed on the deal that you will then see Verizon step into the picture because these divestitures and conditions will not be beneficial to their business. If Verizon was smart, they would start speaking out against this merger, because if it passes, they will be burdened with more government oversite and regulations they are not going to want. Verizon is already taking FCC to court over data roaming nationwide, which FCC passed a couple of months ago. This is just one of many conditions that will be applied and AT&T said that if data roaming rules end up being permanent law, that they will not build out to 97% of customers. Finally, we know the result of mergers like this: higher prices and fewer choices, less innovation, and the loss of American jobs.

    • Anonymous

      Maybe Verizon is not speaking out against this because they plan on taking over Sprint in the future.

  • DetroitTechnoFan

    You’re calling Christian a hippy like it’s a bad thing?

  • Cellularcrazy09

    The funny thing is that the problem of cell phone bills rising started a long time ago.  Blocking T-Mobile/AT&T merger doesn’t stop this from happening.  The government wont step in until the outcries of the citizens outweigh the cash the companies are putting in their pockets.  This wont happen until there is only at&t and Verizon are left.  Either way we are screwed.  If the merger is blocked, it will only be a matter of time til a deal happens and T-Mobile is sold off in pieces. This case the investors loose, which definitely isn’t good for the economy.  If the deal goes through, consumers are screwed, because there will be one less reason for at&t to compete, which is where Verizon is now.  I do not pity the ones in charge.

  • TMoFan

    I hope the people who actually have a say on this are listening. The long term effects would be more harmful then letting this deal fall apart. DT had/has other options, maybe they won’t get a huge payout but other options exist that would be better for the industry and consumers.

  • TMoFan

    I hope the people who actually have a say on this are listening. The long term effects would be more harmful then letting this deal fall apart. DT had/has other options, maybe they won’t get a huge payout but other options exist that would be better for the industry and consumers.

  • Twistmycap

    Even so im still leaving tmoile/at&t if it gos through. I dislike att due to there bad business practices. Not only that they wana charge for everything in the handbook, tethering, hotspot, google voice can’t ve used with them. I feel T-Mobile will no longer be a budget carrier. If the buyout hits in September I’m cancellen my two lines and shootin off to sprint.

    • Anonymous

      Agree, I was with at&t wireless when cingular bought them over and stayed with them for about 1-2 years after that and left for t-mobile… their business practices is all about themselves and not the consumer…

      if the acquisition goes thru, then I leave for verizon. price is not the biggest factor… but coverage & data speed is.

  • TheLight

    Don’t count my Magenta out ;)!

  • Dawnmidnight1

    yesterday i was on my phone, and it said at&t , note my phone doesnt have an at&t sim , its not unlocked bc im tmobile and have tmobile sim.

  • Dawnmidnight1

    yesterday i was on my phone, and it said at&t , note my phone doesnt have an at&t sim , its not unlocked bc im tmobile and have tmobile sim.

  • Dawnmidnight1

    yesterday i was on my phone, and it said at&t , note my phone doesnt have an at&t sim , its not unlocked bc im tmobile and have tmobile sim.

    • Paypal

      duhhhhh..,you were ROAMING in AT&T network brainiac !!!!

      • guest

        That is awesome! LMAO.   “My phone said AT&T and all of the sudden a set of glasses upside down showed up on my notification bar!  They’re already spying on me!”  

        Anyways I really hope this ‘PURCHASE” fails.  Make no mistake.  This is not a merger.  : (

  • Daniel Cline

    Over the years I’ve tried Sprint, AT&T, Verizon and finally ended up with T-Mobile.  What I get for my money at T-Mobile leaves all the others in the dust.  When I saw AT&T was planning to gobble them up it was a real let-down.  I guess if it goes thru I’ll give US Cellular my business and cross my fingers.

  • VoicemailsGone

    This is OT, but critically important: Did anyone else lose all or most of their saved voicemail messages today?

    The system experienced an error, and then voicemails were gone.

  • VoicemailsGone

    This is OT, but critically important: Did anyone else lose all or most of their saved voicemail messages today?

    The system experienced an error, and then voicemails were gone.

  • VoicemailsGone

    This is OT, but critically important: Did anyone else lose all or most of their saved voicemail messages today?

    The system experienced an error, and then voicemails were gone.

  • http://twitter.com/Vision77 Vision77

    I really hope this merger fails….for the consumers sake, but I believe greed will be the reason this deal may get approved by our government…..I have a bit of a hunch that at&t is paying certain government officials off to make this deal go through.  I also believe that a lot of the government officials are just plain ignorant when it comes to the technical aspects of at&ts false claim in regards to network capacity.  Every cellular customer in the  has something to lose if this merger goes through….The minute the merger goes, I’m buying stock in Sprint.