T-Mobile Wants To Keep Smartphones Cheap

T-Mobile CEO Philipp Humm told the Wall Street Journal that T-Mobile plans to sell a number of Android devices for $100 or less. Explaining that not all customers want expensive, high end devices T-Mobile is looking to capture that demographic.

“We are working with our vendors on this one to drive the price of smartphones down,”

T-Mobile won’t be the only carrier hoping to attract new customers with cheaper handset offerings but T-Mobile hopes the combination of inexpensive handsets and cheaper data offerings are a win, win in the market. Those of you looking to see T-Mobile go after high-end devices as well should not fret, there is plenty in the mill to attract both types of customers.

As T-Mobile looks to improve on last years numbers, a push into both demographic markets combined with the no premium on 4G pledge is just what the doctor ordered.

Wall Street Journal via Fierce Wireless

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  • cflorez

    not a bad idea, but they should also keep in mind that there are others seeking to blow $400+ to have the next great cell phone.

    • Anonymous

      And thats with a discount, lol

      I know what you mean when I want a nice phone I want a nice phone.

    • Anonymous

      And thats with a discount, lol

      I know what you mean when I want a nice phone I want a nice phone.

    • Anonymous

      And thats with a discount, lol

      I know what you mean when I want a nice phone I want a nice phone.

  • cflorez

    not a bad idea, but they should also keep in mind that there are others seeking to blow $400+ to have the next great cell phone.

  • MIKEEEEE

    i love my DEFY.

    prime example of what a hundred bucks will get you.

    • MIKEEEEE

      now all we need is a 10″ ANDROID honeycomb tablet for $250.

    • beastly

      Most underrated device of 2010.

  • MIKEEEEE

    i love my DEFY.

    prime example of what a hundred bucks will get you.

  • MIKEEEEE

    i love my DEFY.

    prime example of what a hundred bucks will get you.

  • Anonymous

    I don’t like the sound of this. I’m 17 months into my contract which means by the end of Qtr 2 it will cost me about fifty buck to jump to one of the top three where the “less affordable” phones are. I love TMO and I can respect their goal but maybe my needs arent in their overall scheme of things. 6 months and counting.

    “Those of you looking to see T-Mobile go after high-end devices as well should not fret, there is plenty in the mill to attract both types of customers.” I really hope this is true David! Love TMOandNEWS.

    • Ali

      MT4G, G2, Nexus S came out roughly a month at a time and are all still some of the best smartphones out there. There is no question T-Mobile will continue to put out super phones…You just gotta figure out if you want one of the high end or not.

      Heck, you can still get great deals on awesome phones as they showcased by having the Vibrant on sale for FREE for a few days. By your 6 month marker the MT4G will still be a great phone, and probably won’t cost much to upgrade to. Heck, we still don’t know what’s in store, but with the 25 device number they threw out there, I’m sure T-Mo isn’t going to let up.

      • Anonymous

        the majority of those 25 device are going to be a shitload of low end phones, a few tablets, 2 or 3 mid range phones, 1 or 2 high end phones that the other carriers going to have also.

        • Anonymous

          hey i could care less if our high end phones are copy cats as long as they run on AWS bands!

        • Ali

          HD2 was T-Mo exclusive
          MT4G was T-Mo exclusive
          G2 was T-Mo exclusive
          MTS was T-Mo exclusive
          HD7 was T-Mo exclusive

          All of those phones are considered “high end” smartphones, not just high end phones. In fact, your whole comment is just asinine as the 25 is a number based on data devices and a low end PHONE would have to be just that, a (non-smart) phone, not a smartphone.

          By the way, that list is just T-Mobile exclusive phones as I won’t count the phones that were available on other carriers as well. If you want to slam somebody, at least bring some portion of facts or evidence to the table. Since Humm came in, T-Mobile decided to up the ante…In fact, if you compare end of year lineups…T-Mobile is at least as good as every other, but by most estimations, better.

        • Anonymous

          wrong. you’re living in a fantasy world, the g2 and the mytouch slide are mid range phones, neither of them are consider high end phones. hd2 which run on shitty windows 6.5 and hd7 which is basically the hd2 on windows phone 7. mytouch 4g which is a wash down version of the evo4g, desire hd, inspire 4g, and the thunderbolt. tmo phones are crap, no need to get upset about it. just accept it. have a nice day : )

        • Ali

          You seem to just be complaining for no real reason. What makes the MT4G a “washed down” version? The fact that the screen is smaller and it doesn’t have a kickstand? If you consider the MT4G & G2 mid range phones, then you don’t think there is a high end device out there.

          The HD2 & HD7, btw, are high end devices, they’re just high end windows devices. That’s a fact. You may not like it, but there are a lot of people who still use windows & also a lot of people who stil use blackberry. If you’re not happy with the lineup, you would not be happy with any lineup. Period.

          I realize you get an erection just talking about the physical aspects of the Evo, so my question to you is if you’re a T-Mobile customer, why do you keep causing yourself so much pain by sticking to a carrier who clearly hates you. And if you’re not, why are you on this site?

        • Anonymous

          i didnt say the the mytouch 4g was a mid range phone. i said the g2 and the mytouch slide are mid range phones. as for hd2 and hd7 are concern i couldnt care less about them, notice how both of them have 4.3 screens though. the thing is their plenty of customers on tmo, including myself who would love a 4.3 android high end phone and gladly pay tmo the money for it. just cause i stated how the mytouch 4g was a wash down version of the evo4g, desire hd, inspire 4g, and the thunderbolt, that make me have an erection. then you know what, your absolutely right. you seem like you’re angry, just cause my feeling about tmo android line up doesnt coincide with your feelings. since you most know, yes i am tmo customer, and yes i do plan on leaving as soon as the phone im waiting for come out, which is basically the same time my contract is over. why do you care so much about other people feelings toward tmo? it seem like it bothers you.

        • Anonymous

          i didnt say the the mytouch 4g was a mid range phone. i said the g2 and the mytouch slide are mid range phones. as for hd2 and hd7 are concern i couldnt care less about them, notice how both of them have 4.3 screens though. the thing is their plenty of customers on tmo, including myself who would love a 4.3 android high end phone and gladly pay tmo the money for it. just cause i stated how the mytouch 4g was a wash down version of the evo4g, desire hd, inspire 4g, and the thunderbolt, that make me have an erection. then you know what, your absolutely right. you seem like you’re angry, just cause my feeling about tmo android line up doesnt coincide with your feelings. since you most know, yes i am tmo customer, and yes i do plan on leaving as soon as the phone im waiting for come out, which is basically the same time my contract is over. why do you care so much about other people feelings toward tmo? it seem like it bothers you.

        • Ali

          HD2 was T-Mo exclusive
          MT4G was T-Mo exclusive
          G2 was T-Mo exclusive
          MTS was T-Mo exclusive
          HD7 was T-Mo exclusive

          All of those phones are considered “high end” smartphones, not just high end phones. In fact, your whole comment is just asinine as the 25 is a number based on data devices and a low end PHONE would have to be just that, a (non-smart) phone, not a smartphone.

          By the way, that list is just T-Mobile exclusive phones as I won’t count the phones that were available on other carriers as well. If you want to slam somebody, at least bring some portion of facts or evidence to the table. Since Humm came in, T-Mobile decided to up the ante…In fact, if you compare end of year lineups…T-Mobile is at least as good as every other, but by most estimations, better.

      • Anonymous

        I got a Vibrant already so I’m lookin for bigger.

    • Ali

      MT4G, G2, Nexus S came out roughly a month at a time and are all still some of the best smartphones out there. There is no question T-Mobile will continue to put out super phones…You just gotta figure out if you want one of the high end or not.

      Heck, you can still get great deals on awesome phones as they showcased by having the Vibrant on sale for FREE for a few days. By your 6 month marker the MT4G will still be a great phone, and probably won’t cost much to upgrade to. Heck, we still don’t know what’s in store, but with the 25 device number they threw out there, I’m sure T-Mo isn’t going to let up.

    • Ali

      MT4G, G2, Nexus S came out roughly a month at a time and are all still some of the best smartphones out there. There is no question T-Mobile will continue to put out super phones…You just gotta figure out if you want one of the high end or not.

      Heck, you can still get great deals on awesome phones as they showcased by having the Vibrant on sale for FREE for a few days. By your 6 month marker the MT4G will still be a great phone, and probably won’t cost much to upgrade to. Heck, we still don’t know what’s in store, but with the 25 device number they threw out there, I’m sure T-Mo isn’t going to let up.

    • Anonymous

      I hope you are right. Since coming to T-Mobile from Big Red I have picked up the Nexus One and the MyTouch 4G. Love them both but I now want the new Tegra powered devices. Why not grab the same device that AT&T has landed, that is some bad ass phone. That would keep most any high end nut like myself happy. T-Mobile must get the Tegra powered phone and very soon. If they don’t many customers will look else where.
      THANK YOU T-MOBILE

  • Anonymous

    I don’t like the sound of this. I’m 17 months into my contract which means by the end of Qtr 2 it will cost me about fifty buck to jump to one of the top three where the “less affordable” phones are. I love TMO and I can respect their goal but maybe my needs arent in their overall scheme of things. 6 months and counting.

    “Those of you looking to see T-Mobile go after high-end devices as well should not fret, there is plenty in the mill to attract both types of customers.” I really hope this is true David! Love TMOandNEWS.

  • David have you thought about expanding tmonews and doing smartphones in general? or that conflicts with your relationship with phonedog?

    • Anonymous

      Thats what phonedog is for. Phonedog does smartphone news in general.

  • Anonymous

    Yeah you mean willing to blow $500 like I did on my Vibrant. Money well spent too with no regrets.

  • Anonymous

    here’s another glitch for me David. Sometimes when I reply to a comment it ends up being a post. Also I’ve never been able to Edit my comments.

    • Ok, I’ve not heard any of these troubles before and I don’t know if they are specific to Disqus or their siteup within TmoNews. Let me look into it, when you say a post you mean it isn’t a reply, but another comment altogether?

  • Anonymous

    I can understand T-mobile’s approach. It makes sense that not everyone needs the newest high end devices and or super fast data speeds. I also appreciate not charging us more for HSPA+! I just hope that they do throw us high end users a few bones every once in a while (LG Optimus 2X)

    • Anonymous

      I don’t mind their kind of thinking in this way but this is the kind of thinking for carriers other than the big four. Just as long as they aren’t cheap in performance its ok with me

    • Petey

      That’s why some/most people want the iPhone, eventho it’s not the newest or high end, but again it’s user friendly to all age (i think/i hope lol) & I think that’s what attract people to wanting the iphone.

      • Ali

        I think the iPhone is just attractive to people based on name. It may not be the best, but you know you’re getting a quality device and it had been THE phone for so long, that people still believe it is. It’s no more or less user friendly than an android device, really.

    • Petey

      That’s why some/most people want the iPhone, eventho it’s not the newest or high end, but again it’s user friendly to all age (i think/i hope lol) & I think that’s what attract people to wanting the iphone.

  • i just hope the get something like the evo/inspire just with android 2.3…with a 4.3 inch screen i dont even care for dual core or not…..the snd gen snapdragons are great!

    • Anonymous

      The Evo was crap

    • Anonymous

      Replying to Skye Villanueva

      Thats what I’m sayin. We don’t need 5 (4.3″ MOTO Droid X, 4.3″ HTC Thunderbolt, 4.3″ DROID Bionic, 4.3″ LG Revolution, 4.5″ Samsung 4G LTE) beast phones. Just one or two will be good enough I mean damn. !@#$ ATT has 3!

  • ok you can keep make cheap smart phones if you promise i will get a dual core tegra 2 super phones and some other high end phones with 3.7-4.5 in screens and have hspa+

    • TMO_ATL

      TMOBILE IS LAUNCHING UP TO 25 DEVICES. therefore, they will have a selection of super-phones for those who want them and a selection of lite-android phones for those who want a smart phone but not a heavy user.

      Fact is, people want smartphones because its the “IT”. CEO wants to release lower end smart phones for those who do not wantto be overwhelmed with an expensive data plan on a smart phone they barely use (ie verizon, iphone, evo) with tmobile they have a choice. For example currently, Optimus T (lite android) with optional $20 Unlimited or $10 200MB.

    • TMO_ATL

      TMOBILE IS LAUNCHING UP TO 25 DEVICES. therefore, they will have a selection of super-phones for those who want them and a selection of lite-android phones for those who want a smart phone but not a heavy user.

      Fact is, people want smartphones because its the “IT”. CEO wants to release lower end smart phones for those who do not wantto be overwhelmed with an expensive data plan on a smart phone they barely use (ie verizon, iphone, evo) with tmobile they have a choice. For example currently, Optimus T (lite android) with optional $20 Unlimited or $10 200MB.

  • ok you can keep make cheap smart phones if you promise i will get a dual core tegra 2 super phones and some other high end phones with 3.7-4.5 in screens and have hspa+

  • Anonymous

    right. “Yeah you mean willing to blow $500 like I did on my Vibrant. Money well spent too with no regrets.” was a reply to someone but it ended up being a new comment for me.

  • Anonymous

    There it goes again.

  • Jonathan

    Hate to be a “Negative Nancy” but what Humm really means is: “We are going to have another solid year of crap phones and Android phones that we will never help see that they get updates to newer versions, **sigh**. :-/

    • Absolutely correct…ugh. Luckily I run Android SuperRAM on my HD2 and dont give a F anymore. But I am waiting for a new and better device. Though its almost impossible to find when I already have a 4.3″ Snapdragon with 2.2 droid. As a T-Mo custy for over 7yrs, I will only buy stock android supported by google from now on. The only reason I got the HD2 was to load the ROMs and run them directly off SD card without rooting. T-Mo, as much as I like them, dont give a damn who gets the current updates. If your on T-mo you need to either root your phone, do what I did, or buy stock android. Otherwise your devices will be hopelessly outdated in 6 months.

    • Absolutely correct…ugh. Luckily I run Android SuperRAM on my HD2 and dont give a F anymore. But I am waiting for a new and better device. Though its almost impossible to find when I already have a 4.3″ Snapdragon with 2.2 droid. As a T-Mo custy for over 7yrs, I will only buy stock android supported by google from now on. The only reason I got the HD2 was to load the ROMs and run them directly off SD card without rooting. T-Mo, as much as I like them, dont give a damn who gets the current updates. If your on T-mo you need to either root your phone, do what I did, or buy stock android. Otherwise your devices will be hopelessly outdated in 6 months.

    • Absolutely correct…ugh. Luckily I run Android SuperRAM on my HD2 and dont give a F anymore. But I am waiting for a new and better device. Though its almost impossible to find when I already have a 4.3″ Snapdragon with 2.2 droid. As a T-Mo custy for over 7yrs, I will only buy stock android supported by google from now on. The only reason I got the HD2 was to load the ROMs and run them directly off SD card without rooting. T-Mo, as much as I like them, dont give a damn who gets the current updates. If your on T-mo you need to either root your phone, do what I did, or buy stock android. Otherwise your devices will be hopelessly outdated in 6 months.

    • Ali

      Sorry, forgot the Vibrant, G2, MT4G, MT Slide (at the time) were all crap phones. I think what he means is “Just like you saw with the Optimus, Comet & Defy coming out roughly the same time as the MT4G, we’ll continue to meet everyone’s needs.”

      Keep in mind that just because you may be a techy, the typical 40 year old mom is not…

    • Ali

      Sorry, forgot the Vibrant, G2, MT4G, MT Slide (at the time) were all crap phones. I think what he means is “Just like you saw with the Optimus, Comet & Defy coming out roughly the same time as the MT4G, we’ll continue to meet everyone’s needs.”

      Keep in mind that just because you may be a techy, the typical 40 year old mom is not…

    • Ali

      Sorry, forgot the Vibrant, G2, MT4G, MT Slide (at the time) were all crap phones. I think what he means is “Just like you saw with the Optimus, Comet & Defy coming out roughly the same time as the MT4G, we’ll continue to meet everyone’s needs.”

      Keep in mind that just because you may be a techy, the typical 40 year old mom is not…

    • Ali

      Sorry, forgot the Vibrant, G2, MT4G, MT Slide (at the time) were all crap phones. I think what he means is “Just like you saw with the Optimus, Comet & Defy coming out roughly the same time as the MT4G, we’ll continue to meet everyone’s needs.”

      Keep in mind that just because you may be a techy, the typical 40 year old mom is not…

  • Troyag1

    Off Topic:What happened to the TmoNews feed? I used to be able to see pictures and everything from Google reader now it is only text.

  • Troyag1

    Off Topic:What happened to the TmoNews feed? I used to be able to see pictures and everything from Google reader now it is only text.

  • Petey

    bring the iPhone and cheap smartphone data plans will attract alot of customers. I thought Phillip was an aggressive guy (he did well when he was in German with tmobile over there having exclusivity with the iphone). Hope he tries his best to bring iphone!

  • Petey

    bring the iPhone and cheap smartphone data plans will attract alot of customers. I thought Phillip was an aggressive guy (he did well when he was in German with tmobile over there having exclusivity with the iphone). Hope he tries his best to bring iphone!

  • Petey

    bring the iPhone and cheap smartphone data plans will attract alot of customers. I thought Phillip was an aggressive guy (he did well when he was in German with tmobile over there having exclusivity with the iphone). Hope he tries his best to bring iphone!

  • Blabla

    And when the hell is tmobile going to get an EVO-like device. Every carrier is going to have one except for Tmobile and with AT&T stepping up their android line up tmobile is getting left in the dust fast unless they release something huge. The Optimus 2X won’t be enough when Verizon is getting black and revolution. Does not necessarily have to be made by HTC…I just want a 4.3 inch android device.

    • TMO_ATL

      Try again,

      Evo Like? when already have a device that surpass the EVO. read the specs on all those phones that u just stated and post them here

      • dom

        i think what he means is a 4.3 android device for example the evo…

    • TMO_ATL

      Try again,

      Evo Like? when already have a device that surpass the EVO. read the specs on all those phones that u just stated and post them here

  • Blabla

    And when the hell is tmobile going to get an EVO-like device. Every carrier is going to have one except for Tmobile and with AT&T stepping up their android line up tmobile is getting left in the dust fast unless they release something huge. The Optimus 2X won’t be enough when Verizon is getting black and revolution. Does not necessarily have to be made by HTC…I just want a 4.3 inch android device.

  • Blabla

    And when the hell is tmobile going to get an EVO-like device. Every carrier is going to have one except for Tmobile and with AT&T stepping up their android line up tmobile is getting left in the dust fast unless they release something huge. The Optimus 2X won’t be enough when Verizon is getting black and revolution. Does not necessarily have to be made by HTC…I just want a 4.3 inch android device.

  • Ed

    They’ll keep the prices on the phones down but increase the price on the data plans. The price has already gone up 20% (from $25 to $30) in the last few years and for new customers, the price has gone up even more – an extra $40 per month over the base plan price. For people that don’t talk a lot, the price still starts at $80 per month now with a smartphone.

    • Anonymous

      Thankfully I switched to TMO just months before they upped it to $30. If TMO really wants to be/seem cheap then they should stop charging for texting since there’s virturally no load or cost behind sending “I’m on my way”. That would make the $30/mo look much more appealing.

      • Ali

        Most carriers unlimited texting plan is $20 per line. T-Mo is $10 for individual and $20 for a family…Save at least $10 on texting, spend the same on data…..

        • Anonymous

          Not sure I completely follow the last part but yeah TMO’s texting is real cheap. My 5 lines get unlim txt for that $20

      • Ali

        Most carriers unlimited texting plan is $20 per line. T-Mo is $10 for individual and $20 for a family…Save at least $10 on texting, spend the same on data…..

      • Ali

        Most carriers unlimited texting plan is $20 per line. T-Mo is $10 for individual and $20 for a family…Save at least $10 on texting, spend the same on data…..

      • Ali

        Most carriers unlimited texting plan is $20 per line. T-Mo is $10 for individual and $20 for a family…Save at least $10 on texting, spend the same on data…..

    • Christianromo8

      well considering that the web plan right now is $20 for unlimited, your fact is wrong, 1500 mins, unlimited txt and web for $80, doesnt get better than that

    • Christianromo8

      well considering that the web plan right now is $20 for unlimited, your fact is wrong, 1500 mins, unlimited txt and web for $80, doesnt get better than that

    • Christianromo8

      well considering that the web plan right now is $20 for unlimited, your fact is wrong, 1500 mins, unlimited txt and web for $80, doesnt get better than that

    • TMO_ATL

      Ed,

      Sorry to say that u have your prices wrong or should I say there are other price plans that offer the web less than $30.
      Ex
      Do More Ind Rate Plan
      1500 Mins – Unl Web ($20) – Unl Text, etc
      Do More Fam Rate Plan
      3000 Mins – Unl Web ($20×2) – Unl Text
      add a line rates $5 – add a line with web $20

      Now, the $40 is for Lines 3-5 who wants Unlimited Minutes on the Unlimited Family Plan. If not, they can choose the $10 200 Min add-a-line on an Unlimited Family Plan.

      Yes we do have a base plan (optional 500 mins or 1500 mins*promo*) that is $80 vs. ATT 900 Mins/Text & 2GB of Web $105 vs. Verizon 900 Mins/Text & Unlt Web $110 vs. Sprint 450 Mins/Text/Web $79.99 (+$10 Prem 4G web for wimax)

      So, if you are going to gripe, complain and quote prices make sure your facts are right! Thank you!!

      • TMO_ATL

        BTW,

        add a line prices for the other carriers range from 10-99 depending on which rate plan. and tmo only charges texting for the first 2 lines ($20) instead each additional lines like other carriers…

  • Ed

    They’ll keep the prices on the phones down but increase the price on the data plans. The price has already gone up 20% (from $25 to $30) in the last few years and for new customers, the price has gone up even more – an extra $40 per month over the base plan price. For people that don’t talk a lot, the price still starts at $80 per month now with a smartphone.

  • GPL

    They did not announce a single drool worthy phone at CES. While it’s good for their subscriber base that they target the lower end of the buying spectrum, guys like me that have money and want a big screen, powerful phone are offered nothing. I don’t care about small screen phones. I have a Nexus 1 and a G1, and I’ve been waiting in vain the past 2 years for a hardcore phone to come out of TMo, and it just ain’t happening.

  • GPL

    They did not announce a single drool worthy phone at CES. While it’s good for their subscriber base that they target the lower end of the buying spectrum, guys like me that have money and want a big screen, powerful phone are offered nothing. I don’t care about small screen phones. I have a Nexus 1 and a G1, and I’ve been waiting in vain the past 2 years for a hardcore phone to come out of TMo, and it just ain’t happening.

  • GPL

    They did not announce a single drool worthy phone at CES. While it’s good for their subscriber base that they target the lower end of the buying spectrum, guys like me that have money and want a big screen, powerful phone are offered nothing. I don’t care about small screen phones. I have a Nexus 1 and a G1, and I’ve been waiting in vain the past 2 years for a hardcore phone to come out of TMo, and it just ain’t happening.

  • Joey

    In other words: We’re not getting the iPhone so let’s just offer cheap plasticy myTouch 3.5 mm style phones with slow processors, dull screens, poor battery life and cheap obnoxious pink, orange and green accessories.

    T-Mobile will scare away the last of their gadget higher end postpaid type of customers if they alienate them by offering cheap phones.

  • Joey

    In other words: We’re not getting the iPhone so let’s just offer cheap plasticy myTouch 3.5 mm style phones with slow processors, dull screens, poor battery life and cheap obnoxious pink, orange and green accessories.

    T-Mobile will scare away the last of their gadget higher end postpaid type of customers if they alienate them by offering cheap phones.

  • Joey

    In other words: We’re not getting the iPhone so let’s just offer cheap plasticy myTouch 3.5 mm style phones with slow processors, dull screens, poor battery life and cheap obnoxious pink, orange and green accessories.

    T-Mobile will scare away the last of their gadget higher end postpaid type of customers if they alienate them by offering cheap phones.

  • Joey

    In other words: We’re not getting the iPhone so let’s just offer cheap plasticy myTouch 3.5 mm style phones with slow processors, dull screens, poor battery life and cheap obnoxious pink, orange and green accessories.

    T-Mobile will scare away the last of their gadget higher end postpaid type of customers if they alienate them by offering cheap phones.

  • close2upgrade

    As long as there’s a Nexus variant able to run with who cares. This only affects the have to have the latest and greatest crowd IMO

  • close2upgrade

    As long as there’s a Nexus variant able to run with who cares. This only affects the have to have the latest and greatest crowd IMO

    • Bobert

      Nexus S is plastic garbage.
      A step DOWN from the Nexus 1.
      Kinda sad because the Nexus S IMHO represents that Google will put their name on just about anything!

  • close2upgrade

    As long as there’s a Nexus variant able to run with who cares. This only affects the have to have the latest and greatest crowd IMO

  • Anonymous

    Long time T-Mobile customer who was once a 10 yr customer of Big Red. I own the Nexus One and the MyTouch 4G. I am very happy to say the least with both phones and the very strong HSPA+ signal Im receiving from T-Mobile. Saying that I am very jelous of the new phones that Verizon and ATT are getting very soon with the new Tegra processor. T-Mobile must get these phones to stay with the high end customers needs. I for one want one very bad, I was hoping that the new Tegra powered phone that AT&T is getting could also be an option for T-Mobile. Please T-Mobile, I own two high end phones but I still want the Tegra powered phone and will do what ever is needed to get one. I do not ever want to leave T-Mobile so tell your customers that the Tegra powered phone will be coming our way and very soon. Customers want top of the line, solid hardware powered by the Tegra processor. Do Not fail us.
    THANK YOU T-MOBILE (very loyal customer)

  • Anonymous

    Long time T-Mobile customer who was once a 10 yr customer of Big Red. I own the Nexus One and the MyTouch 4G. I am very happy to say the least with both phones and the very strong HSPA+ signal Im receiving from T-Mobile. Saying that I am very jelous of the new phones that Verizon and ATT are getting very soon with the new Tegra processor. T-Mobile must get these phones to stay with the high end customers needs. I for one want one very bad, I was hoping that the new Tegra powered phone that AT&T is getting could also be an option for T-Mobile. Please T-Mobile, I own two high end phones but I still want the Tegra powered phone and will do what ever is needed to get one. I do not ever want to leave T-Mobile so tell your customers that the Tegra powered phone will be coming our way and very soon. Customers want top of the line, solid hardware powered by the Tegra processor. Do Not fail us.
    THANK YOU T-MOBILE (very loyal customer)

  • Anonymous

    Long time T-Mobile customer who was once a 10 yr customer of Big Red. I own the Nexus One and the MyTouch 4G. I am very happy to say the least with both phones and the very strong HSPA+ signal Im receiving from T-Mobile. Saying that I am very jelous of the new phones that Verizon and ATT are getting very soon with the new Tegra processor. T-Mobile must get these phones to stay with the high end customers needs. I for one want one very bad, I was hoping that the new Tegra powered phone that AT&T is getting could also be an option for T-Mobile. Please T-Mobile, I own two high end phones but I still want the Tegra powered phone and will do what ever is needed to get one. I do not ever want to leave T-Mobile so tell your customers that the Tegra powered phone will be coming our way and very soon. Customers want top of the line, solid hardware powered by the Tegra processor. Do Not fail us.
    THANK YOU T-MOBILE (very loyal customer)

  • are we talking about subsidized or unsubsidised pricing here?

    the price most people pay currently is rarely above $200. I seldom hear of people buying phones unlocked direct from a carrier

  • are we talking about subsidized or unsubsidised pricing here?

    the price most people pay currently is rarely above $200. I seldom hear of people buying phones unlocked direct from a carrier

  • are we talking about subsidized or unsubsidised pricing here?

    the price most people pay currently is rarely above $200. I seldom hear of people buying phones unlocked direct from a carrier

  • Cheifosceola85

    As a T-mobile employee I can tell you that this is a smart move by magenta and Humm.

    Yes Tmobile does need to have some better high end.phones, but as a companytmobile will bring in much more money by having more of the affordable smartphones and data plans.

    The customer base outside of this website isn’t craving the evo or iphone. They want an inexpensive touchscreen phone without having to pay 30 sollars a month for internet

    • Anonymous

      Tmobile needs to stop the bleeding off of customers first. Why are they leaving? Well, my guess would be for better phones that are offered on other carriers. I don’t mind paying more for service if it means getting the phone that I want.. Has anyone gone into a Tmobile store and actually looked at the customers in there? Yeah, I guess Tmo will be better off offering cheap plastic throw away phones.

  • Cheifosceola85

    As a T-mobile employee I can tell you that this is a smart move by magenta and Humm.

    Yes Tmobile does need to have some better high end.phones, but as a companytmobile will bring in much more money by having more of the affordable smartphones and data plans.

    The customer base outside of this website isn’t craving the evo or iphone. They want an inexpensive touchscreen phone without having to pay 30 sollars a month for internet

  • Cheifosceola85

    As a T-mobile employee I can tell you that this is a smart move by magenta and Humm.

    Yes Tmobile does need to have some better high end.phones, but as a companytmobile will bring in much more money by having more of the affordable smartphones and data plans.

    The customer base outside of this website isn’t craving the evo or iphone. They want an inexpensive touchscreen phone without having to pay 30 sollars a month for internet

  • Guest

    Love my G2 and unlimited web for $20.

  • Enough Already TMO

    At this point, its either LG Optimus 2x next month or BUST

    Tmobile just keeps talking, but its constantly always about stuff we don’t care to hear

    • phonegeek

      I think we’re supposed to be getting the lg B too so I suppose they’ll get more high end phones this year too

    • phonegeek

      I think we’re supposed to be getting the lg B too so I suppose they’ll get more high end phones this year too

    • phonegeek

      I think we’re supposed to be getting the lg B too so I suppose they’ll get more high end phones this year too

  • Woimsta2

    I agree completely with you. Tmo seems to just want to play second fiddle to the other carriers. Tmo has great customer service and plans but, the real hardware isnt here yet.( yeah the myt4g and g2 or good but, can the compare to what at&t and Verizon-hell even Sprint offer) . I will still support Tmo when I can but, I had to jump to sprint on my wife’s contract. I hated leaving Tmo but the EVO 4g is a nice consolation prize. Not trying to gloat but ,this is the best phone I’ve ever had. Even if it is on sprint.(i hate sprint bye the way). Anyway keep your head Tmo. The vibrant plus looks like a beast!

  • What everyone needs to realize is that this is a smart move by TMO. By focusing on the mid-range market, they can increase sales and have more capital for the better smartphones (probably at lower prices). No where has TMO said that they are not going to procure higher end devices. Let’s not forget, it was TMO that gave us the HD2, which is still by and far one of the best phones they offer (along with the G2, MT4G, and Vibrant).

    • marc

      I don’t know, isn’t that what they have been doing? I think most people who will buy a smartphone will want the best one. Since they are going to pay the same for the plans. They gave us the HD2 because no one else wanted it, since it would be obsolete within months (not upgradeable to WP7).

  • What everyone needs to realize is that this is a smart move by TMO. By focusing on the mid-range market, they can increase sales and have more capital for the better smartphones (probably at lower prices). No where has TMO said that they are not going to procure higher end devices. Let’s not forget, it was TMO that gave us the HD2, which is still by and far one of the best phones they offer (along with the G2, MT4G, and Vibrant).

  • What everyone needs to realize is that this is a smart move by TMO. By focusing on the mid-range market, they can increase sales and have more capital for the better smartphones (probably at lower prices). No where has TMO said that they are not going to procure higher end devices. Let’s not forget, it was TMO that gave us the HD2, which is still by and far one of the best phones they offer (along with the G2, MT4G, and Vibrant).

  • Anonymous

    Well that confirms T-Mobile is just going to continue the second tier trend. Might be time for me to stop kidding myself and leave.

  • Anonymous

    Well that confirms T-Mobile is just going to continue the second tier trend. Might be time for me to stop kidding myself and leave.

  • Drewsyboy13

    what they need to do is make their internet cheaper.$15 minimum is to much $30 for unlimited. Any phone that they have without internet is horrible build. I am not happy with tmo

  • Anonymous

    I’d stay with “unlocked phone” plan and opt for decent unlocked phones.

  • Anonymous

    I’d stay with “unlocked phone” plan and opt for decent unlocked phones.

  • Nelson Mandela

    I don’t mind cheap phones as long as they look good.

  • Nelson Mandela

    I don’t mind cheap phones as long as they look good.

  • Phillip Humm

    Agree with Nelson.

  • Yeah yea, cheaper handsets. But is that all? I would love to have more choices on getting what phone I want. And I don’t want to stick on low-mid range phones forever.

  • Yeah yea, cheaper handsets. But is that all? I would love to have more choices on getting what phone I want. And I don’t want to stick on low-mid range phones forever.

  • Yeah yea, cheaper handsets. But is that all? I would love to have more choices on getting what phone I want. And I don’t want to stick on low-mid range phones forever.

  • Yeah yea, cheaper handsets. But is that all? I would love to have more choices on getting what phone I want. And I don’t want to stick on low-mid range phones forever.

  • Yeah yea, cheaper handsets. But is that all? I would love to have more choices on getting what phone I want. And I don’t want to stick on low-mid range phones forever.

  • Yeah yea, cheaper handsets. But is that all? I would love to have more choices on getting what phone I want. And I don’t want to stick on low-mid range phones forever.

  • VIVIT

    Yeah yeah, all for getting cheap handsets. But is that all you want to give out t-mobile? I dont plan on sticking on low-mid range phones forever.

  • VIVIT

    Yeah yeah, all for getting cheap handsets. But is that all you want to give out t-mobile? I dont plan on sticking on low-mid range phones forever.

  • VIVIT

    Yeah yeah, all for getting cheap handsets. But is that all you want to give out t-mobile? I dont plan on sticking on low-mid range phones forever.

  • VIVIT

    Yeah yeah, all for getting cheap handsets. But is that all you want to give out t-mobile? I dont plan on sticking on low-mid range phones forever.

  • VIVIT

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  • VIVIT

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  • VIVIT

    Yeah yeah, all for getting cheap handsets. But is that all you want to give out t-mobile? I dont plan on sticking on low-mid range phones forever.

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  • Anonymous

    TMobile, please give us an Atrix or similar device.

    You can keep your Cliqs (useless device), MyTouch (mediocre device) as they are not worth much for anyone, even you. (try keeping an HSPA+ signal on a MyTouchHD, you will revert to edge a lot!!!!, though this is a handset issue, cause the G2 has no problems, nor the Vibrant on the same location).

    Atrix is a device that will make me think the unthinkable, go back to ATT, is it worth it? I HATE ATT, but a device like the Atrix makes all the diff in the world.

    If your promises or actions follow a path like that of Samsung and the Vibrant with Froyo, I will have to change providers.

    Please consider that some of your users are not interested in useless phones (aka cliq, or mytouchhd, behold, etc) We prefer the good stuff and are willing to pay for it. If that means leaving T Mobile, well… its not that we didnt take a proactive stance by stating the facts.

    • I’d stay away from motorola for good because their phones are the least likely to get updated and they’re the most hostile against custom ROM.
      Even any cliq had 1THz, 128 core, 128GB ROM and RAM, 5″ no-degrade AMOLED, I’d still stay away.

    • I’d stay away from motorola for good because their phones are the least likely to get updated and they’re the most hostile against custom ROM.
      Even any cliq had 1THz, 128 core, 128GB ROM and RAM, 5″ no-degrade AMOLED, I’d still stay away.

  • Jake_79927

    Its hard leaving tmobile but this is the final nail in the coffin, think your getting a 4.3 or 4.5 phone on tmobile anytime soon then I have some beach front property in the desert that I’m trying to sell. Tmobile will become last in line for high end phones. T mobile was the first carrier with android but they will lose ground to att and sprint because they won’t or can’t buy high end phones, most of those 25 phones will be low end phones, show me a 4.3 inch android phone on tmobile and then maybe well talk, till then theres always sprint,verizon and now att.

    • Woimsta2

      That’s why I’m rockin an white evo 4g, I love Tmo and all but, the complacency of 4th place is sad. I hope they one day decide to compete with the big boys

    • DatNizzle

      Screen size alone makes a phone high end?
      I’m glad T-mobile doesn’t have any 4.3 inch Androids. They look like Phisher Price phones. Besides being ugly, there’s not much special about them.
      Unless you’re 6’7″, you look stupid with an Evo or HD2.
      If you want an Evo just dualboot an HD2 or HD7 with Android, aren’t they basiclly the same phone?

    • DatNizzle

      Screen size alone makes a phone high end?
      I’m glad T-mobile doesn’t have any 4.3 inch Androids. They look like Phisher Price phones. Besides being ugly, there’s not much special about them.
      Unless you’re 6’7″, you look stupid with an Evo or HD2.
      If you want an Evo just dualboot an HD2 or HD7 with Android, aren’t they basiclly the same phone?

  • Homer

    If i wanted low end android phones I would go with metro pcs or cricket!! Thanks tmobile for giving us the cliq 2 while everyone else got high end motorola dual processor phones.

  • 4G_or_not_4G

    This is great, not everybody wants high end, or can afford high end…just don’t forget about us who want it and can afford it.

  • First, I have been a TMo customer for a very long time since Voicestream actually. What brought me was that at the time they did really have cool looking phones. I had the T28 Ericcson Phone. It was thin, looked like it came from Star Trek. I have a N1 now but sadly, none of the offerings currently on the TMo line interest me. The myTouch series is just kidda child like (thought the G2 isn’t bad) and I dislike the branding.

    TMo is and has been on crack lately and that’s what the kind of customers they seem to be aiming for…people who ride greyhound buses and the pre-paid customers. Unlike other phone providers…it certainly seems to me people DO want high end phones…EVO, Droids and yes even Samsung.

    I’ve stuck out with TMo because the call quality where I am is pretty good, good pricing plan and I buy unlocked phone. I would have switched to the Nexus S but I’m perfectly happy with my N1 for now. Hopefully, they will have more high tier phones which will keep me but I’m looking at the Verizon line up and gotta say it is looking like an all star playbook of Android Phones.

    • Hate, Y U No Love?

      I’d say its about split. Maybe like 60/40… with 60% being the percentage of people I know who DON’T want ‘high end’ phones.
      Its usually attributed to cost though… they don’t want to be in a contract, don’t want to pay for the phone or don’t want to pay for data. In a smaller percentage, some just don’t want to deal with something ‘complicated’.

      Too many people who comment on tech blogs forget that the consumer market is not reflected here. The opinions of all these ‘techies’ are far from representative of the real world.

      Going back to the automobile analogy… Toyota does not have a dealer lot 3/4ths full of Avalons and fully loaded Camry’s, with the remainder of the lot filled with Yaris, Corollas and Scions. Instead, its the OTHER WAY AROUND.

    • Jimmcparty

      I really have to agree with just about everything David said. I have been with TMO just as long but i am just getting soo disappointed with hardware options.

    • Jimmcparty

      I really have to agree with just about everything David said. I have been with TMO just as long but i am just getting soo disappointed with hardware options.

    • Which way is Up?

      Well said David. I agree on many of the points you brought up, however I am not loosing faith in T Mobile. They have always focussed on a younger target audience. Consider the Sidekick line, MyTouch line, etc. Even with the Deisre HD spec’ed MT4g, T Mobile took a left in design, they should’ve stayed right and kept the original Desire HD design. For the time being, I too am focussing on unlocked phones at the tremendous cost of Edge data… Although I get HSPA, I never match the speeds I see posted around the net so I’m okay with that. I’ll do just fine with Edge and Wifi and look forward to something really special from my carrier (like when they announced the HD2). My .2c

    • Which way is Up?

      Well said David. I agree on many of the points you brought up, however I am not loosing faith in T Mobile. They have always focussed on a younger target audience. Consider the Sidekick line, MyTouch line, etc. Even with the Deisre HD spec’ed MT4g, T Mobile took a left in design, they should’ve stayed right and kept the original Desire HD design. For the time being, I too am focussing on unlocked phones at the tremendous cost of Edge data… Although I get HSPA, I never match the speeds I see posted around the net so I’m okay with that. I’ll do just fine with Edge and Wifi and look forward to something really special from my carrier (like when they announced the HD2). My .2c

  • phonegeek

    so what do you all consider the g2: high end, mediocre, or low end? Please anyone chime in.

    • Anonymous

      High end but not the monster im looking for

    • Jason

      It’s okay but I hate busting out my mytouch slide and people busting out their droid x or htc evo’s. :( although the evo came out like a year ago!!

    • Anonymous

      mid range.

      • Anonymous

        I would consider G2 and MT4G on the upper range of mid range. If Nexus S had a 4G radio in it, that would have been a no brainer purchase.

    • Anonymous

      mid range.

  • Nerdlust

    What is everybody smoking ? Tmobile has a nice mix of high low and mid range. Mytouch4g can go toe to toe with every high end phone and beat most. G2 has best every full keyboard android phone in every review I have seen. Nexus one and nexus s both excellent devices. Last time I checked verizon nor sprint carried bb9780 for the crackberry addicts. I’m very happy and the line up and can’t wait to see the new releases later this year. Btw some people want to start with low end or feature phone before they step into full smartphone range. I tombile is right to hit all markets!

  • TMobile Failed Again

    The Cliq 3, 4, 5, 6, 7,….. you’ll see.

    Lol. T Mobile failed.

    Funny how T-Mo introduced Android to the World and still gets the left overs. The MyTouch series are horrible… even the MT4G. That’s one ugly phone and guess what? Its not even considered a Hi End device in the. Mobile Tech World.
    T MO is like that fat kid in the playground that no one wants to play with.

    Might as well join Cricket and try to be 3rd place in the big 3. Verizon, At&t, Sprint.

    Only the IPhone can save you…. but Verizon will be getting that tomorrow.

    • Anonymous

      Dude I’m kinda with you but how exactly is the the MT4G not considered high end (1.) As opposed to mid ranged and (2.) As compared to a phone you can buy today? Not tomorrow.

      Sure my woman wants a MT4G but that doesn’t make it any less high end right now.

    • Anonymous

      Lol iphone didn’t save att they had iphone to them selves for 4years and couldn’t beat verizons droid..Evo saved sprints ass so when did IPHONE ever save a company???? lmaO U sound so stupid

  • Wilma Flintstone

    I’m holding my judgement for Mobile World Congress. I’m sure Tmo will drop some heat there.

    • Anonymous
      • Wilma Flintstone

        NICE!!! That almost makes me want a Nexus S. Thanks for that info Pimp-Streez.

        I also saw that they’ve got started on a port for the HD2. The second they get a fully working version on the HD2, I’m flashing or whatever it takes to get it on here.

        engadget.com/2011/01/03/htc-hd2-gets-a-shot-at-meego-still-suffering-from-abandonment-i/#

        I’d love some of these to get on Tmo US as well:

        youtube.com/watch?v=bAB-Cqe0yz8

        Or some of these:

        youtube.com/watch?v=cXrXYCC6Cmo&feature=channel

        as they run Meego beautifully, have good screen size and powerful specs to match.

      • Wilma Flintstone

        NICE!!! That almost makes me want a Nexus S. Thanks for that info Pimp-Streez.

        I also saw that they’ve got started on a port for the HD2. The second they get a fully working version on the HD2, I’m flashing or whatever it takes to get it on here.

        engadget.com/2011/01/03/htc-hd2-gets-a-shot-at-meego-still-suffering-from-abandonment-i/#

        I’d love some of these to get on Tmo US as well:

        youtube.com/watch?v=bAB-Cqe0yz8

        Or some of these:

        youtube.com/watch?v=cXrXYCC6Cmo&feature=channel

        as they run Meego beautifully, have good screen size and powerful specs to match.

      • Wilma Flintstone

        Actually this is a better reference to Meego on the HD2 but the other one has video:

        xda-developers.com/windows-mobile/meego-porting-project-for-the-hd2/

      • Wilma Flintstone

        Actually this is a better reference to Meego on the HD2 but the other one has video:

        xda-developers.com/windows-mobile/meego-porting-project-for-the-hd2/

    • Anonymous
  • Auser72

    I submitted post about the money being in the lower to mid priced cell phone market and was ridiculed to no end. I will admit that there is a growing market for super smartphone, but the money is in the low to mid price phones. Verizon and Att are able to get exclusives on phones because they have a large enough customer base to offer those heavily subsidized super smartphones that may will take atleast 4-6 mnths to break even, thats with those expensive days plans. Its the same scenario with car manufactures, while hyundai may offer a flagship car like the hyundai genesis, the money is in the volume sales of the sonata and elantra. The best way got t hyundai or say kia to compete with the bigger car manufacturers, would be by way of value. In my opinion tmobile has struck a balance of nice product selection, excellent customer service at a affordable price. They have strategic plan, attract new young customers with affordable smartphone and affordable plans that will eventually move up to higher end phones and more expensive plans. Just like the hyundai sonata driver will probably move up to genesis on next car.

    • Hate, Y U No Love?

      Of course you were ridiculed to no end… online commenters are morons who have zero understanding of anything outside of their fanboy likes and hates. Its futile to try to talk logically to 90% of the people who read and post comments.

      • Anonymous

        the same thing can be say about you, you’re stuck on your decision just like everybody else. you try to ridicule others who dont agree with your opinions.

        • Auser72

          I never ridiculed anyone, just using some discernment and logic. Here you have people arguing and disgruntled over statements made at wall street journal crowd. That man was there to talk money and how they can get more of it.and the people there don’t give damn about any particular phone unless it increases there bottom line. At some point you do have ask, if why are you on tmobile related site or hell tmobile service if you our they are so unhappy with them.

        • Anonymous

          so basically you’re saying people shouldn’t complain and voice their opinion if they aren’t happy, instead they should just leave. tmo customers who want a better line up of android phones and that are willing to pay for them should just keep their mouth shut and move on to another carrier. tmo shouldnt get customers feedback is what you saying.

      • Anonymous

        the same thing can be say about you, you’re stuck on your decision just like everybody else. you try to ridicule others who dont agree with your opinions.

  • Anonymous

    Cheap is descriptive of what you’ll be getting. Cheap design. Cheap sub-par parts and believe me, cheap mindset and service will follow. It is one thing to say that you will INCLUDE some low-end fare so as to cover the bases. It is quite another to make “cheap” your aggressive THRUST! Notice how the term high-end is nearly an after-thought at the end of the article. Not good, Tmo! If I wanted MetroBoostCricket and that Ghett-ro spin, I’d have signed up with them. There is no upside to cheap. It is what it is. CES was a wake-up call. Humm is delusional. He states that he lost many customers in November because he didn’t have the high-end equipment that customers demand and in the next breath announces a drive to further alienate those of us who want phones like the LG Optimus 2X and the Optimus Black (but Tmo didn’t stake its claim publicly on the baddest phones to hit the industry. No, we’ll have to leave Tmo to get that). And this from the guy who brought the iPhone to Tmo in Europe??!!! I am thoroughly disappointed that Humm has come here to turn this company into a ghetto parking lot. How stupid is it to have 4G and no muscle phones to choose from to take advantage of it??? (Operative inference is CHOICE). The MT4G may have a buzz under its hood but that plastic squeaky face is a fail of epic proportions. I don’t care what they have to say at MWC, they flat out failed the AMERICAN customer at CES. And Wilma, there is NOTHING here to Yabba-dabba-do about!

    • Auser72

      Rants and raves, but little truth. Tmobile has several high end phones in the line up. They have 4g phones in their line up Right now that can take advantage of 4g technology. I really don’t know what ghetto phones are, I do know they offer lees expensive phones to appeal to masses who don’t have 500 dollars to spend on phone or be made to pay extra 30 dollars a month for 2 years for buying subsidized phone. I really would like to know what are you complaining about, they never mentioned they wouldn’t get highend phones. His statements were not for the geeked out, tech savvy community. They were geared to the investors or potential investor, shareholder community. As Strategy to increase overall profits. I will reiterate, super smartphones are money maker for the manufacturer because they get money off the top. The carriers have to subsidize the phones and over extended period of time to make profit.

      • Anonymous

        You have *got* to be kidding me??? Tmo has 2 so-so phones in the lineup: The MT4G with its cheap plastic facia and the G2 with its less than 1ghz processor. Adequate, but not something to stand in line for. I don’t count the Vibrant because it is in limbo waiting to be updated and fixed at some nebulous point in time. But you said you wanted to talk truth, LOL – And FYI, when a person says that they are aggressively going after the lower market and make NO moves to show that they are going after the high-end, I’m sorry but I will take the CEO”s word and actions as proof. Read the Wall Street Journal interview and what was said, not what you *wish* was said: “larger rivals Verizon Wireless and AT&T Inc. dominate the high end with devices like Droids and the iPhone. Mr. Humm is targeting lower-end contract and prepaid customers.”

        Now, if you say targeting, that describes your niche market and the thrust of your business. I quote again the article that you apparently did not read: “In November, the company said it was having trouble holding on to its most valuable customers, in part because it doesn’t offer the iPhone. Mr. Humm, in an interview at the Consumer Electronics Show in Las Vegas, acknowledged that the likelihood Verizon Wireless getting the iPhone as well could affect his subscriber numbers.” Now, what can we glean from that? 1. Tmo doesn’t have the phones that the customers demand 2. They are losing customers. And regarding the “Strategy” of which you spoke? Shareholders are looking at one thing and one thing only: Profit Margins…and not speeches made to the press. This is not rocket science.

        The title of that Wall Street Journal article tells you where Humm is putting the thrust of Tmo’s focus…on the DOWN market. No one has acknowledged a “misprint” on that article’s title either. Again, he mentions carrying some high end phones, seemingly as an after thought. But the article clearly states “Chief Executive Philipp Humm said in an interview that MANY of his smartphones will eventually be made up of Google-powered phones costing less than $100” Who am I to believe…you??? Or the CEO! Nuff said. And by the way…the profits are made by sales to the customers, not the shareholders. If the customers leave (as Mr. Humm acknowledges they ARE) the profits wane and he will have to answer to those shareholders in due course.

        • DatNizzle

          Most smartphones aren’t high-end. Why should they cost more than $100. The Cliq was not worth more than that. So now instead of stuff like the Nuron we get cheap andoids, because Android is hot right now.
          Sorry to tell you but no carrier has more high-end phones than middle of the road phones. Besides in your opinion no phone is high end. Evo, nope – plastic. Nexus S, plastic. Vibrant, why would updates matter it’s plastic.
          Besides what phone out now can match my data speeds on my MT4G? Right now?

        • Anonymous

          I’ll give you that the MT4G is fast. That isn’t the issue. This is: http://forum.xda-developers.com/archive/index.php/t-875247.html

        • bob

          Anyone who pays more than $150.00 for any phone has no idea of value. It’s a phone as long as you pay the high price they will keep charging alot of money for junk. I refuse to pay more than $150.00 for any phone. If all the fad seeking people keep buying expensive junk based on nothing prices will keep climbing and you will still get basically a junky ass phone. How about this lets get the best phone we can for the least amount of money force them to make good phones for less money stupid asses.

        • Anonymous

          I feel your pain but lets wait till MWC.

      • Anonymous

        You have *got* to be kidding me??? Tmo has 2 so-so phones in the lineup: The MT4G with its cheap plastic facia and the G2 with its less than 1ghz processor. Adequate, but not something to stand in line for. I don’t count the Vibrant because it is in limbo waiting to be updated and fixed at some nebulous point in time. But you said you wanted to talk truth, LOL – And FYI, when a person says that they are aggressively going after the lower market and make NO moves to show that they are going after the high-end, I’m sorry but I will take the CEO”s word and actions as proof. Read the Wall Street Journal interview and what was said, not what you *wish* was said: “larger rivals Verizon Wireless and AT&T Inc. dominate the high end with devices like Droids and the iPhone. Mr. Humm is targeting lower-end contract and prepaid customers.”

        Now, if you say targeting, that describes your niche market and the thrust of your business. I quote again the article that you apparently did not read: “In November, the company said it was having trouble holding on to its most valuable customers, in part because it doesn’t offer the iPhone. Mr. Humm, in an interview at the Consumer Electronics Show in Las Vegas, acknowledged that the likelihood Verizon Wireless getting the iPhone as well could affect his subscriber numbers.” Now, what can we glean from that? 1. Tmo doesn’t have the phones that the customers demand 2. They are losing customers. And regarding the “Strategy” of which you spoke? Shareholders are looking at one thing and one thing only: Profit Margins…and not speeches made to the press. This is not rocket science.

        The title of that Wall Street Journal article tells you where Humm is putting the thrust of Tmo’s focus…on the DOWN market. No one has acknowledged a “misprint” on that article’s title either. Again, he mentions carrying some high end phones, seemingly as an after thought. But the article clearly states “Chief Executive Philipp Humm said in an interview that MANY of his smartphones will eventually be made up of Google-powered phones costing less than $100” Who am I to believe…you??? Or the CEO! Nuff said. And by the way…the profits are made by sales to the customers, not the shareholders. If the customers leave (as Mr. Humm acknowledges they ARE) the profits wane and he will have to answer to those shareholders in due course.

      • Well said Auser, and thank you. You said it better than I could.

    • Wilma Flintstone

      1. Don’t ever call me out like that. If you’re going to call me out, at keast be a little more creative Captain Spock.
      2. In agreement with Auser, you don’t have a clue as to most of what you are talking about.
      3. What exactly is a “ghetto” phone? I’m guessing you are relating ghetto with cheap which in that case again, you don’t know what you are talking about and are just basing your thoughts upon what you see portrayed on TV.
      4. Do you even know what CES is? Consumer *”ELECTRONICS”* Show, not Consumer Mobile Phone Show. True Tmo failed pretty hard and didn’t show Anything worth mentioning at CES but thats not the place to show phones anyway.. I’m looking forward to MWC.
      5. At MWC 2011 when Tmo busts your head with some awesome phones, I don’t want to see you talking about how great of a company they’ve always been and how you’re happy you stayed.
      6. Don’t be upset because I can maintain my joyful attitude in situations like this. COME ON MWC 2011!!! WOOHOO IT’LL BE GREAT!!! :)

      • Anonymous

        (smh) This is so unnecessary. However, I’ll humor you and respond according to your numbers:

        1. The comment was not meant as a “call out” as you put it. I simply thought that your name was cute as I am a Flintstone fan. But please know that you will never dictate what I choose to say or do in my life. You’re putting too much on it. Relax and keep it moving. Its much too juvenile. Call out??? smh.
        2. What you agree with is irrelevant. Let Tmo’s LOST customers, the lost revenue and their being in 4th place speak for themselves
        3. Guessing isn’t working for you. I referred to Ghett-Ro and ghetto phone service TYPE as in Pre-paid etc. – Now, if you don’t know what that is, I can’t help you with that.
        4. The Mobile Phone companies appear at CES for a reason – to generate buzz about their upcoming lineup. This isn’t Einstein territory.
        5. We are responding to today’s article. We are responding to an event that was held at CES…not MWC. I couldn’t care less about MWC, We are talking about what happened HERE in America.
        6. Finally, you’re not significant enough in my world to make me upset. And I have no more time to devote to this. Have a nice day!!!

        • Wilma Flintstone

          Haaa!!! Check you out. Haaa! Trying to be me. Good try but no. You can’t steal my joy, just stop trying. Have a good one. I’ll see your other face at MWC 2011. Til then, holly jollies and follies. :)

        • Samsung said they would be making some big announcements at MWC and that T-Mobile news might be included, so I wouldn’t write off MWC just yet.

        • Wilma Flintstone

          I can’t wait for MWC. Tmo is going to bring the thunder! Oh yeah!

        • Anonymous

          There is nothing about you are your life that is remotely attractive to me. My great life sizzles tyvm! Have fun at the venue and watch that people don’t pinch your face, I mean your rear…it’s hard to tell the difference! Enjoy!!!

        • Anonymous

          There is nothing about you are your life that is remotely attractive to me. My great life sizzles tyvm! Have fun at the venue and watch that people don’t pinch your face, I mean your rear…it’s hard to tell the difference! Enjoy!!!

  • Hate, Y U No Love?

    Whats funny is all these complaints are the same ones I’ve been reading over and over since the G1.

    Its whatever people. If the hardware is what you want, then GO to a carrier with better hardware. GO. Begone. Scram. No one really cares. Actions speak louder than words. Adios.

    All your whining doesn’t change anything. LEAVE.

    • Anonymous

      Buy me out of my contract Mr. Moneybags! Trust me, if they have not improved by the end of it, I’m out. No ice. No chaser. But you can expedite that scenario since you want me gone so swiftly. Do that. I can catch the specials that the other carriers are having. It works for me! And where I spend MY money, I can either applaud or decry the service depending upon what that service is. It’s what grown folks do. I don’t suffer in silence nor back down from bullies. Put up or shut up.

    • Anonymous

      So you never complain about anything or something? Nobody really cares that all our complaints are getting under your skin. You don’t wanna read the complaints then GO. Begone. Scram. No one really cares.

  • Manusferrera

    What about the high end demographic?

    • DatNizzle

      High end phones will cost $200, like they do now.

    • DatNizzle

      High end phones will cost $200, like they do now.

    • Anonymous

      I guess TMO thinks there’s only like 97 of us.

    • Anonymous

      I guess TMO thinks there’s only like 97 of us.

  • Petey

    So now that the Verizon iPhone is out (and I don’t think there isnt any exclusivity deal). What is T-Mobile going to response to this? I’m having a feeling that T-mobile will lose more subscriber to Verizon for the iphone. Yeh, Android is better but only phone geeks knows that. Regular consumers only goes for what’s hyped and ease to use. T-Mobile going release iphone too to compete with the other big boys?

    • Petey

      Oh forgot to mention that I don’t think T-Mobile strategy of having cheaper smart phone will bring more user to tmobile. Regular consumer don’t go crazy over the Android, but go crazy over the iPhone.

      I love T-Mobile & its services, but they need to be aggressive on getting phones that consumer wants.

    • Petey

      Oh forgot to mention that I don’t think T-Mobile strategy of having cheaper smart phone will bring more user to tmobile. Regular consumer don’t go crazy over the Android, but go crazy over the iPhone.

      I love T-Mobile & its services, but they need to be aggressive on getting phones that consumer wants.

  • DatNizzle

    Everybody wants an Evo, why? The screen, HD2 or HD7 have a 4.3 inch screen.
    Whats the quadrent on the Evo? You guys are talking like its 3000.
    Well is it? I looked online they seem lower than the MT4G. But I have never done one myself.
    If you put a custom rom to increase speed, you might as well buy an HD2 and put Android on it. Just don’t get all the Evo sipping.

  • DatNizzle

    Everybody wants an Evo, why? The screen, HD2 or HD7 have a 4.3 inch screen.
    Whats the quadrent on the Evo? You guys are talking like its 3000.
    Well is it? I looked online they seem lower than the MT4G. But I have never done one myself.
    If you put a custom rom to increase speed, you might as well buy an HD2 and put Android on it. Just don’t get all the Evo sipping.

    • Anonymous

      1. EVO is a referrence for a big Android phone. I could name all 5 of Verizons 4.3″+ Android phones when I’m complaining about the lack of one on T-Mobile OR I could just say EVO and everybody knows what kind of phone I’m talkin about.
      2. HD2 is not Android(if your going to recommend an HD2 because you can HACK Android onto it then your just missing the point)
      3. HD7 is not Android

      EVO got a crappy ashy screen compared to my Vibrant and the video portion of the Quadrant is trash when side by side with the Vibrant but it is the size of a phone that I/we want. Of course phones are better now since the release of the EVO.

    • Anonymous

      1. EVO is a referrence for a big Android phone. I could name all 5 of Verizons 4.3″+ Android phones when I’m complaining about the lack of one on T-Mobile OR I could just say EVO and everybody knows what kind of phone I’m talkin about.
      2. HD2 is not Android(if your going to recommend an HD2 because you can HACK Android onto it then your just missing the point)
      3. HD7 is not Android

      EVO got a crappy ashy screen compared to my Vibrant and the video portion of the Quadrant is trash when side by side with the Vibrant but it is the size of a phone that I/we want. Of course phones are better now since the release of the EVO.

  • mt4g

    Too bad it doesn’t apply to their plans. T-Mobile has steadily been increasing the price on data plans for a while now. They keep changing the name of the data addon too.

    • Petey

      I think what would be attracting to the consumer if they can have $5 for 200mb and $10 for 5gb. that would be a very nice deal or take away the mandatory data plan.

    • Petey

      I think what would be attracting to the consumer if they can have $5 for 200mb and $10 for 5gb. that would be a very nice deal or take away the mandatory data plan.

    • Petey

      I think what would be attracting to the consumer if they can have $5 for 200mb and $10 for 5gb. that would be a very nice deal or take away the mandatory data plan.

    • Petey

      I think what would be attracting to the consumer if they can have $5 for 200mb and $10 for 5gb. that would be a very nice deal or take away the mandatory data plan.

    • Petey

      I think what would be attracting to the consumer if they can have $5 for 200mb and $10 for 5gb. that would be a very nice deal or take away the mandatory data plan.

    • Petey

      I think what would be attracting to the consumer if they can have $5 for 200mb and $10 for 5gb. that would be a very nice deal or take away the mandatory data plan.

    • Petey

      I think what would be attracting to the consumer if they can have $5 for 200mb and $10 for 5gb. that would be a very nice deal or take away the mandatory data plan.

  • mt4g

    Too bad it doesn’t apply to their plans. T-Mobile has steadily been increasing the price on data plans for a while now. They keep changing the name of the data addon too.

  • Tmobile look at what Verizon is doing with new phones and do the same. We dont want $100 crap phones. most of us will pay for quality and speed!

  • Tmobile look at what Verizon is doing with new phones and do the same. We dont want $100 crap phones. most of us will pay for quality and speed!

  • Words to Humm:
    It’s better to have “balanced” lineup of smartphones (Android, BB, WP7).
    2 $500+ models
    4 $400-500 models
    3 $300-400 models
    3 $300 or lower basic models
    In addition, T-Mobile should ask manufacturers to add AWS on unlocked 3G phones for EM+ customers.

  • Words to Humm:
    It’s better to have “balanced” lineup of smartphones (Android, BB, WP7).
    2 $500+ models
    4 $400-500 models
    3 $300-400 models
    3 $300 or lower basic models
    In addition, T-Mobile should ask manufacturers to add AWS on unlocked 3G phones for EM+ customers.

  • Words to Humm:
    It’s better to have “balanced” lineup of smartphones (Android, BB, WP7).
    2 $500+ models
    4 $400-500 models
    3 $300-400 models
    3 $300 or lower basic models
    In addition, T-Mobile should ask manufacturers to add AWS on unlocked 3G phones for EM+ customers.

  • Ws6driver Js

    Ok makes phones cheaper= check. Provide double speeds to already enfused 4g areas = check. Forget about other areas that don’t even have 3g = check. Wth……….

    G2 in greeneville tn.

  • The bulk of people using cell phones right now are NOT in the market for a high priced phone, or a high priced cell plan. Most people are looking for a quality phone, that can do alot of the work that they can do on their pc’s and to show off a little for their friends. I own a mtslide currently and owned a cliq before this. I was very happy with both phones and can work them well. Sure, there are some issues and this is the case with any phone you get. Talk to any cell user and they will tell you all of the things they hate about their phones, no matter how great everyone else says they are. Tmo is not necessarily trying to compete, but to corner that market that everyone else is ignoring. As far as the pricing going up, the company is a for profit company, and is jumping on board with what the other carriers have been doing for years. The name of the company is not free-mobile people.

  • The bulk of people using cell phones right now are NOT in the market for a high priced phone, or a high priced cell plan. Most people are looking for a quality phone, that can do alot of the work that they can do on their pc’s and to show off a little for their friends. I own a mtslide currently and owned a cliq before this. I was very happy with both phones and can work them well. Sure, there are some issues and this is the case with any phone you get. Talk to any cell user and they will tell you all of the things they hate about their phones, no matter how great everyone else says they are. Tmo is not necessarily trying to compete, but to corner that market that everyone else is ignoring. As far as the pricing going up, the company is a for profit company, and is jumping on board with what the other carriers have been doing for years. The name of the company is not free-mobile people.

  • People are lining up outside for the release of the Cliq 2, uh never mind it’s The Verizon store they are lining up for!!! Go to any cricket or metro pcs store and you’ll see people wanting a low end android phone or Lg phone. Tmobile is trying to become like them, it’s a shame, because 1 in every 100 people at these store’s shower, that’s the future that Tmobile is setting up for us!!

    • I think everyone should keep in mind, most of the people with cell phones cannot afford to get one of these expensive, high end phones. Great for you if you can, but the the option should be there for the majority.

    • I think everyone should keep in mind, most of the people with cell phones cannot afford to get one of these expensive, high end phones. Great for you if you can, but the the option should be there for the majority.

  • A very stinky Future