HTC Mozart Coming The Magenta Way?

Remember the HTC Mozart? Yeah, the handset we’ve been calling since July of 2010. Well, according to our ninjas the handset is coming really soon. As a refresher (since its been a while since we last heard about the Mozart), the HTC Mozart sports a 3.7-inch capacitive touch screen with an 800 x 480 pixel resolution, a 1GHz Snapdragon processor, 512MB RAM and 576MB of ROM. The handset also features an 8 megapixel camera (the highest megapixel Windows Phone 7 camera) with auto-focus,  Xenon flash, and 720p HD Video recording. Hardware wise, the Mozart is crafted from a single piece of “anodized aluminum”, similar to the G2, giving it the same great solid feel.

Our sources tell us that Magenta may offer the handset in two versions, an 8GB version and a 16GB version, but don’t marry us to that.

Now lets just hope that the Mozart is one of the handsets thats packing T-Mobile’s new fast HSPA+ 21Mbps 4G!

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  • Gohan2344

    first.

    why do people say that? so dumb. ha.

    can someone recommend to me a phone for T-Mobile that does not require a data plan?
    thanks.

  • Gohan2344

    first.

    why do people say that? so dumb. ha.

    can someone recommend to me a phone for T-Mobile that does not require a data plan?
    thanks.

  • Gohan2344

    first.

    why do people say that? so dumb. ha.

    can someone recommend to me a phone for T-Mobile that does not require a data plan?
    thanks.

  • Gohan2344

    first.

    why do people say that? so dumb. ha.

    can someone recommend to me a phone for T-Mobile that does not require a data plan?
    thanks.

    • Spand

      the LG D-Lite, data plan free and won’t break the bank !!

    • Spand

      the LG D-Lite, data plan free and won’t break the bank !!

      • TMOFOSHO

        and the grey more mature version comes out 2/2…woooo…lol get a data plan….bum

      • TMOFOSHO

        and the grey more mature version comes out 2/2…woooo…lol get a data plan….bum

    • http://twitter.com/FR35HM1NDZ Jamille Browne

      I see what you did there you sneaky lil bastard lol well nokia nuron is an alright device. Only $109 at radioshack

    • Anonymous

      Your “first” comment indictates the best fit for you would be a prepaid feature phone (aka a “dumb” phone).

      Be adivised that those phones might as much as $20; so you will have to budget for that, if you want that deluxe a phone. T-Mobile may be having a sale, you could be the “first” purchaser.

    • Anonymous

      Your “first” comment indictates the best fit for you would be a prepaid feature phone (aka a “dumb” phone).

      Be adivised that those phones might as much as $20; so you will have to budget for that, if you want that deluxe a phone. T-Mobile may be having a sale, you could be the “first” purchaser.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_6YANHBQGMNQYOJ5ST2OAFIHXN4 Clark

    I have a Vibrant with no data plan

    • Spand

      such a waste of potential. Like getting a 1600 on his SAT and going to community college.

      • Tmoguy

        I second that

      • Petey

        I know alot of people who in that position, but they go community college to get the general education and then transferred to a university afterwards. I think it’s cheaper.

        • Spand

          Except I would say 1. with a score like that you could get a full scholarship to some pretty impressive schools, 2. many, many, many people who start at community college never move on (Reference Chris Rock – Bigger And Blacker) and 3. I would say the disparity in prices is becoming less and less with states cutting higher education budgets.

        • TMOFOSHO

          so is this like only using wifi…and never really leaving up to your potential …..

      • http://twitter.com/FR35HM1NDZ Jamille Browne

        I could have sworn the SATs was upped to 2400 or in the least 1800

      • Anonymous

        Not really…

        I have a G2 with just the 200 MB data plan (forced to get because I got it on contract). I installed the Quick Settings app and turned off the data on the phone. I only use the phone on Wifi. There’s only been once or twice I wanted to access the T-mo’s data network. So far this month, I’ve used less than 20 MB. I really didn’t need that stupid data plan. I would’ve been fine with my 2.99 T-zones data plan that I gave up.

        • Spand

          people are just “cheap.” All that facebook checking, e-mail, mobile banking, all done at home or at starbucks. Using that logic, why not just get an IPAD or a netbook. It would cost you the same and do a lot more than a phone with a “nice” keyboard and touch screen.
          Better yet, just stay at home so you will always have an always on data connection and skip that twenty or thirty a month. Cheat the system or whatever its called.

          Personally, I love running around finding wifi-hotspots, as if my day is not busy enough or driving around a neighborhood looking for that “open network”

          Just man up and use your phone like google thought you could.

          I think the best analogy I could give anyone is

        • Spand

          and what makes my argument a winning once is the 2.99 T-Zones, you want it, but you are being cheap.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_6YANHBQGMNQYOJ5ST2OAFIHXN4 Clark

    I have a Vibrant with no data plan

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_6YANHBQGMNQYOJ5ST2OAFIHXN4 Clark

    I have a Vibrant with no data plan

  • John from LA

    how much longer to we get info on LG Optimus 2x

    • Cheap

      I don’t think we are getting the Optimus 2X. It looks like At&t is getting it and Tmo is getting the Optimus Black. I hope we get something at least!

      http://androidspin.com/2011/01/08/t-mobile-and-att-to-get-new-android-phones-from-lg/

      • Bimmerz

        *smh* Man, I really hope AndroidSpin is wrong about this (or that their source is). From what I’ve read, the O-Black is the lower end of the 2, no dual core. The only good thing it has going for it is its screen, which is supposed to be better than the GS and iPhone’s screen. But otherwise, the rest of its specs are not as good as the O-2X. Hopefully T-Mobile will surprise us next month at MWC – it should be interesting…

      • Bimmerz

        *smh* Man, I really hope AndroidSpin is wrong about this (or that their source is). From what I’ve read, the O-Black is the lower end of the 2, no dual core. The only good thing it has going for it is its screen, which is supposed to be better than the GS and iPhone’s screen. But otherwise, the rest of its specs are not as good as the O-2X. Hopefully T-Mobile will surprise us next month at MWC – it should be interesting…

        • Txoom

          “From what I’ve read, the O-Black is the LOWER END of the 2, no dual core.”

          That’s exactly why T-Mobile will be getting the black instead of the 2X.

      • Emmanuelcenteno46

        i think we might get both devices, that would be nice

    • zapata714

      according to this guy the LG Optimus 2X is coming to TMobile http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WirINvz8GP8

  • Some Guy

    My penis went soft wen i saw the word “Windows”

    • Hgff44

      you cant fk phone anyway why do you want to be hard???

      • http://tmonews.com David

        That was completely unnecessary, thanks for the edit button!

  • bryan

    Unless the TMO USA version has a different processor than the European Mozart it will not be 4g. So far all of the Windows Phone 7 handsets use the first gen snapdragon processor, which is only capable of 3g speeds of 7.2 Mbps Max.

    • Tmoguy

      4g and 3g speeds have nothing to do with the processor. It’s the radio chip itself that determines if its 3g or 4g, while processor speed is utilized by the phone systems and apps.

      • bryan

        Actually the radio chip is integrated into the Qualcomm chipsets, including the snapdragon. The snapdragon System On a Chip (SOC) contains the CPU, GPU, and Radio control components.

        • J-Hop2o6

          ^^ this is correct

        • J-Hop2o6

          ^^ this is correct

      • bryan

        Actually the radio chip is integrated into the Qualcomm chipsets, including the snapdragon. The snapdragon System On a Chip (SOC) contains the CPU, GPU, and Radio control components.

  • Petey

    when is the iphone going to come to T-Mobile?

    • TMOFOSHO

      really this….. again…NEVER>>>>>>>just get a droid and love it….

      • http://twitter.com/Pistol_Pat M. Patrick Ortiz

        We have the Droid line-up on T-Mobile?

      • http://twitter.com/Pistol_Pat M. Patrick Ortiz

        We have the Droid line-up on T-Mobile?

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Simon-Yu/100000989859895 Simon Yu

    Ah no way.. :) If it does come to T Mobile, then I’d be picking one up… I’d still use my Cliq.. but I’d love to try WindowsPhone 7 and the beautiful Mozart.. with it’s.. 8 megapixel camera right?

    Then save up for an Optimus 2x while I hang out tight with the Mozart.. well.. whichever comes first..
    Dual-cored, HSPA+21, Device.. or Mozart.

  • Anonymous

    The HD7 isn’t moving (at my store atleast) Everyone wants Android now….Don’t think there’s a need for another Windows 7 Phone right now. It looks nice though.

    • Prodigypv

      Well, market Windows Phone a little more… the more Windows Phones sold, the better… If you tell the customers that Windows Phone is better in many ways, they will buy it… (Tell them quality of apps, centralized updating, etc.). Don’t need to tell them much bad things except that all bad things will most likely be fixed with an update… (And if you want, you can trash talk Android a little xP). Anyways, the T-Mo store I go to have been burned by Android… low satisfaction, low customer surveys, etc…

      • Jason

        The problem with telling someone which phone is “better” is that everyone has an opinion about what “better” means.

        At my store, everyone is attracted to the HD7 simply cause of the size and look. But the average customer really doesn’t have a need/want for a Windows phone. They want apps, faster speeds, customization, etc. The few we’ve sold, about 50% are returned for an Android model.

      • Jason

        The problem with telling someone which phone is “better” is that everyone has an opinion about what “better” means.

        At my store, everyone is attracted to the HD7 simply cause of the size and look. But the average customer really doesn’t have a need/want for a Windows phone. They want apps, faster speeds, customization, etc. The few we’ve sold, about 50% are returned for an Android model.

      • Anonymous

        The company should market/advertise the phone and platform more. I will never trash talk android. The HD7 is a nice phone, but it doesn’t get support. People want “the droid phone”…They want what others have and what they see on TV. AT&T does a good job on pushing WP7. Android is alot more proven and mature than W7 also….Many ppl have been burned by Windows before (the Dash, Wing & HD2 come to mind in particular)….Windows 6.X was garbage and that leaves a bad taste in everyone’s mouth. Android & IOS are on top right now. It will be very difficult compete with those 2 platforms. Android offers a wide variety of devices on numerous carriers while the Iphone is a high quality device with a proven, reliable OS….not to mention the apps available on both OS’s. How can Micorsoft differentiate itself from the others and win? Again, WP7 is nice and with TMO’s 1/2 off deal, the HD7 is a heck of a deal. Its just hard for me to push something that isn’t proven from a company that has a bad track record with mobile OS’s.

      • Anonymous

        The company should market/advertise the phone and platform more. I will never trash talk android. The HD7 is a nice phone, but it doesn’t get support. People want “the droid phone”…They want what others have and what they see on TV. AT&T does a good job on pushing WP7. Android is alot more proven and mature than W7 also….Many ppl have been burned by Windows before (the Dash, Wing & HD2 come to mind in particular)….Windows 6.X was garbage and that leaves a bad taste in everyone’s mouth. Android & IOS are on top right now. It will be very difficult compete with those 2 platforms. Android offers a wide variety of devices on numerous carriers while the Iphone is a high quality device with a proven, reliable OS….not to mention the apps available on both OS’s. How can Micorsoft differentiate itself from the others and win? Again, WP7 is nice and with TMO’s 1/2 off deal, the HD7 is a heck of a deal. Its just hard for me to push something that isn’t proven from a company that has a bad track record with mobile OS’s.

      • bryan

        I would disagree that WP7 is better than android for any number of reasons.

        Quality of apps is debatable, while many apps are very high quality and integrate into the Metro UI very well they are hampered by usability issues. The lack of multitasking and extremely slow app load times (partly due to developers not properly implementing tomb-stoning/ dehydrating statuses in WP7 and partly due to the OS itself) which hampers the usability of apps.

        Centralized updating should be an advantage to WP7 over Android, but Microsoft has yet to push out any updates. WP7 has been out for 3 months and Microsoft has been talking about updates since before launch, specifically copy and paste. Until Microsoft follows through with the promises of updates this is yet to be proven to be an advantage. Slow updates are a problem with both WP7 and Android.

        WP7 is a solid platform for a version 1 product and is WAY ahead of Android 1.0, the problem is that it is not competing against Android 1.0. I hope Microsoft starts addressing some of the issues with updates. My biggest concern so far is the lack of timely updates coming from Microsoft to address issues that were known before launch.

  • Benzworld

    So this is replacing the HD7?

    • Senor Chang

      No… sold side-by-side… but other than a much better camera, I can’t see what other distinction a person could use other than wanting a slightly smaller phone.

      HTC is falling off. I used to love them, but lately all their offerings are getting lackluster.

      • Project2501

        Part of the question is what the expansion hardware specs look like (despite no “official” microSD being released) and screen quality. Having seen a number of WP7 handsets from the various carriers (most of my friends who have one either have a HD7 or a Samsung Focus), my biggest concern is the screen quality. Across the board, these devices need to meet a pretty good minimum spec. The manufacturers are distinguishing themselves by the extra bells and whistles. The Samsung Focus is one gorgeous phone and I’d love it of TMO could offer that to its customers.

  • Jeremiah

    As a music major, I would totally get it just for the name! Although I’d still stick with my G2 as my daily driver.

  • http://i-appreciate.org alt-mobile

    gotta love the 1960s bling Heath from HTC has on…bling bling!

    • http://twitter.com/SParKlngCyaNide SparklingCyanide

      ditto!! Loves that retro-futuristic look. One of the reasons why I loved my G1 back in the dayy. ; D

  • http://twitter.com/efjay01 Ef Jay

    T-Mobile shouldnt bother. Their sales staff will just advise people against buying it because they hate anything microsoft and push android on them leading to low sales. And its an htc phone which means poor camera (despite the high pixel count, just search for reviews to see) and poor battery. Complete waste of time.

  • http://twitter.com/SParKlngCyaNide SparklingCyanide

    GREAT! Even a rinky dink carrier is getting an Android 4.3 inch screen before us…. Motorola Milestone X is the DROID X for Bluegrass Cellular http://www.phonearena.com/news/Motorola-Milestone-X-is-the-DROID-X-for-Bluegrass-Cellular_id16322?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+phonearena%2FySoL+%28Phone+Arena+-+Latest+News%29

    • DavidOhio

      Yeah but it only has Android 2.1 which does not support Adobe flash. I would not want a high end Android device with a 4.3 inch screen and NO flash player for web browsing.

      • http://twitter.com/SParKlngCyaNide SparklingCyanide

        Oh I couldn’t agree more with you I love my myTouch 4G way more than a droid X but just can’t believe such a small carrier would get a 4.3″ screen before us. I don’t really want the droid X but we desperately need a larger screen Android on our carrier.

        • Chatter

          Why do you think we are “desperate” for a larger screen? Not arguing, just curious. I understand most people go off specs but does 0.3 inches really matter?The best selling (i)phone on the planet right now is at 3.5″ so I really want to understand why people want an Android large screen.
          PS: like you, I have a MT4G and enjoy it.

        • Tortionist

          I agree, personally I think 3.5 to 4.0 inches is perfect. I sport the MT4G and it is the best out there right now. I’ve played with all the others, I-phone 4 included and was not impressed by any of them. Only a tard would want a gigantic screen for movie watching. That’s what laptops and T.V.s are for, or even tablets.

        • Aerofanbig

          Because the majority of posters here are the typical number whores. They only want specs, so they can say I’m better then X because I have X and X and X. Remember how much people FREAKED out over the 800mhz processor when the G2 was announced…..even though the 2nd Gen ran FASTER then 1st Gen 1Ghz phones? No matter how many times people were told, its a new processor, it works better, and doesn’t need to be as big….people still did the “i’m leaving!” “tmo sucks! Verizon is 123x better!!” “Tmo you failed me” because, they just want specs. Such is the case with a 4.3″ screen. Honestly, put a 4.0 and 4.3 next to each other….it makes NO difference other then to say I have the biggest.

        • http://twitter.com/FR35HM1NDZ Jamille Browne

          If you want 4.3inch device then get a Windows Phone.

  • JT04

    T-Mobile sucks when it comes selling windows phone, their idiot reps are supporting iPhone’s on the their belts and promoting Android to anyone try to by any other phone. Most biased reps I have seen so far. Plus they are always late with new phone for MS. I’m not sure how the score HD2 anid HD7, both of them are their best selling phones.

    Even this site is heavily fandroid site and I quit reading it a while back.

    • http://twitter.com/FR35HM1NDZ Jamille Browne

      What you want them to do? Android is more popular thus which makes it easier to sell I mean try selling the Windows Phones would be quite some work like trying to sell a nokia in America. If someone asks what system is better how are you gonna sell windows phone? its has a 3k app market, office, xb live and netflix, the thing isn’t even 4G capable all are pretty much the same and boring. Then you got Android of which has a lot you can do alot of customizing and more.

  • frigadroid

    I miss Kentucky :’-( That’s where I started with Powertell back in the 90s. I would be skeptical about a new phone with 2.1 after the vibrant deal, but yeah when will tmob get the android big boy? When they do it will probably be a scamscum with major bugs and standard features missing from the international version lol.

  • DavidOhio

    I honestly don’t see why so many complain about the handsets that T-mobile carries now, not to mention the 24 or so new ones coming this year. I think they are doing the best they can, it is not always up to the carrier. Keep in mind that T-mobile uses a different GSM band than At&t does so they can’t always carry the same devices. Not many manufacturer’s make 3G/HSPA+ 1700mhz GSM Android or Windows 7 handsets. I am sure T-mobile is working with handset makers to carry some amazing smartphones this year!! Just tired of all the whining and negative stuff about T-mobile and handsets. People want to just blame T-mobile when there are many others as well. I personally am waiting for the LG Optimus 2X to come out…and I am very patient LOL!!!

  • Bestbuy

    I am waiting for the LG but I have to say how funny it is the everyone complains about the lack of HSPA+ phones when in reality there is no HSPA+ in most markets.

    I just left Best Buy, wanted to take a look at the Nexus after reading about it here. Holy cow! Was that slow! When I complained the salesmen pulled out the Spring EVO and pushed it at me.

    Told me that tMobile 4g was a scam. We downloaded speedtest to the phone and it measured a respectable 4M. At that point a college kid popped open his G2 and showed us the H+. Well, needless to say, he recorded the same 4M+. Boy was he pissed. Left for T-mobile down the road. Told him about this site and that he needed to get something in writing as the 21M forget that 14M deal is one big scam!

    • Anonymous

      Im assuming that the 14.4Mbps data will be faster once the 21 rolls out.

    • http://twitter.com/FR35HM1NDZ Jamille Browne

      The Demo models don’t run the same network or something of that sort because everytime I check out a demo its running on average 40kbps and in the same instance I get 4-5mbps on my Nexus which is very good. There is no scam your mileage varies from place to place once 42mbps rolls out everyone should have no problem seeing 14mbps average if their device is capable. Verizon’s only looks good because there is no mobile device running it yet. wait till they get a bigger usage that’ll significantly drop speeds. T-Mobile has everyone using the network of which makes us better but if we had no one using the network like verizon LTE then we would get 21 or 14

    • Deff

      Just saying, the nexus isn’t 4g… while the EVO is. I know that 4g should speed up 3g devices too but the nexus shouldn’t be as fast as an EVO anyway. 4g isn’t a scam.. its more of a BETA. While it isn’t completely done, different markets are pushing it to show people what they could become. So all in all, yeah go buy a 4G device, but don’t expect it to be amazing until your network is truly 100% 4G.

  • Anonymous

    If T-Mobile wanted a certain device they can get it. It’s that simple. T-Mobile is huge in Europe, as I said if they wanted a certain device for the US customers all as they have to do is speak up. We want Tegra powered phones ASAP.

  • krycek1984

    I went to a TMobile store today to play with the HD7. I walked up to it, and it wouldn’t turn on (hadn’t been charged). The salesman said that I don’t want the phone and that there are lots of good Android phones available.

    This is the second time this has happened now. I went to a Radio Shack and the same thing happened – they didn’t have any WP7 devices, because they “can’t keep them in stock”, but the salesperson said Android was better anyway. Whatever.

    If I were a salesperson I’d be telling people to run as fast as possible away from Android.

    MS needs to get going on getting these reps trained and TMO needs to stop allowing them to push so hard for Android.

    • HTC_1

      Well, they will learn soon enough that Windows Phone 7 is not going anywhere, and in time it will be on top. Its a great OS, and those who have it know it already. I like android, but it does not run as smooth as WP7. No one can deny this. I hope you are able to get one, you will like it. Go with the HD7 if you want a big screen, if not…we will be releasing the Mozart to the stores soon. It has a 3.7 inch screen.

      (A note to some of the T-Mobile reps that make posts on these sites and other, be mindful of what you are saying.)

      • bryan

        I can only speak for myself and the reps I work with, but all of us are impressed with WP7 and the HD7. The only issues we have with it is based on Microsoft’s history with windows mobile and Windows Phone 7 being a new operating system.

        Personally I think Microsoft has taken too long so far to get the first OS update out, and is hurting themselves because of it. One of the potential advantages of WP7 was updates coming straight from Microsoft, but it has been 3 months since launch (and Microsoft was already talking about updates before launch adding cut and paste) and still no update.

        I am a little disappointed with the build quality of the HD7, the buttons (camera, power/unlock, and volume keys) are too soft and lack feedback. Not horrible, but the HD2 (or G2) feels much higher quality in comparison.

        • HTC_1

          I understand. But 3 months is not that long of a wait when you compare the time it takes others. No excuses from me though, as I do understand. I will say, that when the updates do come…people will as well. As for the build, that’s out of my hands. I actually enjoy the feel, but its not for everyone. The back does come across as cheap, but give it some time. There are plenty of other WP7′s coming, that will impress. Speeds; looks; feel; and much more. The Mozart might get another name, but for now…that is what I will call it.

        • HTC_1

          I understand. But 3 months is not that long of a wait when you compare the time it takes others. No excuses from me though, as I do understand. I will say, that when the updates do come…people will as well. As for the build, that’s out of my hands. I actually enjoy the feel, but its not for everyone. The back does come across as cheap, but give it some time. There are plenty of other WP7′s coming, that will impress. Speeds; looks; feel; and much more. The Mozart might get another name, but for now…that is what I will call it.

        • bryan

          3 months since release plus roughly one month before release and still not expected release dates for any upcoming updates is too long, since Microsoft pushed updatability of the OS as a big selling feature. If Microsoft had not made such a commitment to updates I would agree that it is not that long. If Microsoft would push smaller updates more often (as they have the ability to do since they control updates directly) or publish a release schedule for updates it would make it less of an issue.

          Microsoft needs to be rebuilding their reputation in the mobile space, and slow uncertain update schedules will not do that. They have talked about adding features and addressing issues (copy /paste, multiple calendar sync) through updates but not when the updates will be here.

          I want to like WP7 and so far am impressed with the OS, if Microsoft started rolling out updates to address some of the issues I would be interested. I would strongly consider picking up the Mozart (keep my G2 also) if the hardware is as nice as it looks like.

        • HTC_1

          True. I may have obligations with HTC, but I truly enjoy Android. It is number 1 right now, but in time…WP7 will impress the masses. Dual cameras are coming, dual cores, and many of the other things that you are already enjoying. I believe that we are at a point where we are playing catch up, and they (the big M), will give consumers what they want. In due time…

        • HTC_1

          True. I may have obligations with HTC, but I truly enjoy Android. It is number 1 right now, but in time…WP7 will impress the masses. Dual cameras are coming, dual cores, and many of the other things that you are already enjoying. I believe that we are at a point where we are playing catch up, and they (the big M), will give consumers what they want. In due time…

        • bryan

          I hope Microsoft makes WP7 into a true competitive OS, competition is never bad for consumers. I am using Android right now (and have been since the G1) but would switch to another OS if it fit my needs better.
          The deal breaker for me on WP7 is lack of multiple calendar sync. You can only sync 1 calendar per email, I currently have 4 calendars syncing tied to my Gmail. I asked about this at the Microsoft launch meeting but have not seen anything concrete about it.

        • HTC_1

          And to be honest, you won’t any time soon. But it will come…I just can’t say when.

        • HTC_1

          Windows Phone 7 First Update To Roll-out February 7

        • HTC_1

          This month should be a celebration for WP7 users.

  • Deff

    I have never ever used WP7 but I must say it looks like trash. I have used Winmo many times and while I like it, android fits my style very well. The multiple home screens makes it versatile and personal, while Winmo was very straight forward and uniform. Now WP7 is not appealing to the eye at all. The layout looks like a kindergartner drew it. So I must say, while some people will knock Windows, maybe they have the right to. And there will always be android haters as well, and maybe once again they have the right to. But all in all, it really depends on what you are gonna use the phone for. You wouldn’t tell a 12 year old that a Blackberry is best for him, just as you wouldn’t tell a businessman to go and get a sidekick. If people like WP7, then that’s them, don’t have a whole debate about it.

    • Anonymous

      Android looks like a cheap iOS knockoff with widgets trying to make it more bearable.

      Each app, even built-in ones, is inconstant and seems to be thrown together by hobbyists.

    • Senor Chang

      “don’t have a whole debate about it” said the a-hole who just got through calling it trash. Hypocrite much? No doubt.

      Here… let pretend to be the kind of person you are and how a person like you wold respond: “Android is g@y, only for people who care about funky icons and changing their wallpapers everyday with no other real functions that are any better than any other phone… but, you know, let’s not fight about it. If that garbage is what you’re into, so be it”

  • Deff

    I have never ever used WP7 but I must say it looks like trash. I have used Winmo many times and while I like it, android fits my style very well. The multiple home screens makes it versatile and personal, while Winmo was very straight forward and uniform. Now WP7 is not appealing to the eye at all. The layout looks like a kindergartner drew it. So I must say, while some people will knock Windows, maybe they have the right to. And there will always be android haters as well, and maybe once again they have the right to. But all in all, it really depends on what you are gonna use the phone for. You wouldn’t tell a 12 year old that a Blackberry is best for him, just as you wouldn’t tell a businessman to go and get a sidekick. If people like WP7, then that’s them, don’t have a whole debate about it.

  • Anonymous

    Today is the first time I’ve seen a Windows 7 phone in the wild. A teen age kid was struggling with it (ATT phone) He was stuck in a transition under PEOPLE.

    The screen was frozen. Given the fact I had not seen one of these phones used in public places where no MS geeks are around, I naturally drifted towards him to analyze how satisfied he was. The kid finally had the brilliant idea to reboot the phone by taking the battery out.

    So staying at distance, I kept on watching as some of his iPhone friends took poaches at him and a few other Android fellow beside him where trying to give him advice. The phone booted up after a while and the kid ran into the same problem.

    I have promised my self not to purchase a Windows 7 phone, cause I don’t like the OS MS tax on laptops and computers, my personal choice. But now any thoughts I may have had of considering MS as an alternative quickly faded away, and it quiet clear why sales aren’t that great.

    Yes, there will be fans that will purchase Windows phones, but if even a few have these kind of issues, for the average user, it will be a frustrating experience.

    So as soon as I could Googled ‘windows 7 smartphone freez’ and to my surprise its a very common experience. MS needs to address this now if they want to be part of the smartphone pie (hope they are not, but if they do, they must solve it).

    The Mozart is a Windows 7 phone, having seen what I did today and based on what is out there on the net, Its not worth any money. Before considering any Windows 7 phone for anything, it would be wise to wait and see for the second generation if it ever arrives. Maybe then it will be mature enough. The G1 was not great, but as stable enough and worked properly, though it took a year. Windows 7 phones have been on sale for a bit over 100 days, so lets wait and see for now.

    • T-mo Rox!

      LOL. So I googled your suggestion: windows 7 smartphone freez

      None of the 1st and 2nd page results mentioned anything related to this windows phone 7 and freezing.

      Nice try.

    • g4tro702

      That is the first I’ve heard of a WP7 phone freezing I’ve had the HD7 since it came out and it has never ever frozen on me. I’ve never had a lag problem like i did with my Vibrant before the HD7 and my personal experience is that this thing is faster than any Android phone currently available on TMo(Trust me I’ve had pretty much every high end phone tmo has). There’s prob something wrong with his phone in particular but I’m telling you my HD7 has been the best phone experience I’ve had in a real long time.

    • http://twitter.com/mlococo Michael Lococo

      Wow there’s a big pile of BS… WP7 has been excellent and of the several people that I know personally using them – NO PROBLEMS!!! I personally have upgraded my HD2 to WP7 and it has been ROCK SOLID and very fast. The HD2 had a problem – in the beginning – because of the HTC Sense causing problem. HTC got it fixed it their last release but it was Microsoft that took the bruising. As far as the G1 is concerned my children both had one and they were buggy and problematic for the majority of the 2 years they used them.

    • Senor Chang

      I call total bull$h!t on your story as well.

    • Quentinthegreat

      That truly is a lie I’ve had the Evo and Epic and i now have the HD7 it is clearly a better phone than both the os is beautiful and smooth I’ve reset my phone 1 time since i had it it doesn’t freeze at all compare apps the apps are more polished on Windows compared to Android and one thing that is true that people won’t admit apps are over rated

  • Kniven1

    Hope tmobile gets some dual core phones in soon. Seem like Verizon is getting all the cool phones.

  • Kniven1

    When I went into tmo store to look at the HD7 for my wife the sales person said, why not look at an Android phone? you wont like the Windows Phone7. At another Tmobile store at the mall the tmobile rep laughed and said dont waste your money on a WP7 get an Android phone you will thank me later!!

    • cp

      I’ve read a few stories like the one you talk about. I’ve sent the gang at tmonews some similar stories. Hopefully they will do a story on this so that all of these T-Mobile employees who read this site daily can know how sad this is. Not everyone wants an Android phone but they try to push those things on you like it’s the best thing ever. If I were a rep, I’d try to sell the customer whatever phone they wanted instead of turning them away. If I come in looking for a WP7, just make your life easy and sell me a WP7, get your comission and carry on with your day…LOL

    • Senor Chang

      I got a Dell VP, so a friend of mine went out to Tmo to look at the HD7 and his experience, the rep really tried to give him the run down on both systems in a positive light. He eventually went w/ an mid-range Android handset, but that was more due to price ($150 as opposed to $200 HD7, with contract).
      My friend looks over at my Dell and will say, “G*d damn that phone is awesome”. He likes his Android, but I think a part of him really wanted WP7.

      Anyway… not all Dell reps are such lazy bastards or idiot fanboys is what I’m trying to say.

    • Senor Chang

      I got a Dell VP, so a friend of mine went out to Tmo to look at the HD7 and his experience, the rep really tried to give him the run down on both systems in a positive light. He eventually went w/ an mid-range Android handset, but that was more due to price ($150 as opposed to $200 HD7, with contract).
      My friend looks over at my Dell and will say, “G*d damn that phone is awesome”. He likes his Android, but I think a part of him really wanted WP7.

      Anyway… not all Dell reps are such lazy bastards or idiot fanboys is what I’m trying to say.

    • Senor Chang

      I got a Dell VP, so a friend of mine went out to Tmo to look at the HD7 and his experience, the rep really tried to give him the run down on both systems in a positive light. He eventually went w/ an mid-range Android handset, but that was more due to price ($150 as opposed to $200 HD7, with contract).
      My friend looks over at my Dell and will say, “G*d damn that phone is awesome”. He likes his Android, but I think a part of him really wanted WP7.

      Anyway… not all Dell reps are such lazy bastards or idiot fanboys is what I’m trying to say.

    • km

      Same thing happened to me at two different stores, one in Providence and one in Boston. Both times I went in specifically looking to try out the HD7 and was steered directly to a Galaxy S.

  • MobileLife

    I’m really excited about WP7 and would love to own one but the phones are all last years tech or flawed somehow. Even the Mozart, which likes a great WP7 device still lacks the must have bits to keep it interesting in the coming months. I suspect the limits may have to do with the OS, but so far I don’t see any WP7 devices with 4G, Hotspot capability, front facing camera, WiFi calling, or suffer from battery life issues or poor quality screens.
    My hope is that by summer, we’ll see a newer generation of devices that have these essential features and take advantage of the massive WP7 update coming soon.

  • Anonymous

    You cant even blame the reps, have anyone seen a t-mobile ad featuring wp7? I sure havent but there a tons of andriod ads all over. People will just sleep on this OS till somebody build it up with ads and then peopl will jump all over like its the big thing! Anybody remember the Driod and Verizon? They put andriod on the map and not t-mobile but it was launched on tmo. What a shame! Its all about how you market the damn thing. I dont really like Apple stuff but anytime the iPad ad comes on,it makes me want to buy one, thats marketing. I love my HD7 like no other phone I have ever had and thats a lot but its just frustrating that people are just so bent on wanting this OS to fail like they have shares in Andriod or something. There should be choices and I dare any rep to try to tell me what phone to buy, I will school that fool on how to sell.

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  • Joesholidaysales2010

    It may seem cut and dry but when you’ve worked in the business long enough you’ll understand why. When you have to see the same people you sold an HD2 / TouchPro / Wing / Dash / MDA to each and every month, you’ll understand why preventive measures are in order. Not saying the HD7 is as bad as those phones by any stretch, I actually like it, but I think there is a universal “wait and see” attitude all reps are taking after the HD2 debacle (how were we supposed to know?). Plus, the natural comfort level of pitching Android over WP7 is undeniable.

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    CNET reviewed the international version of this phone and said the camera is aweful…
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  • G-luv

    What does “really soon” really mean in the phone world. I’d really like to get a WP7 ohone and since the HD7 is too big and I’m not switching away from T-mo this will apparently be the phone for me.

    • http://twitter.com/Daveweinberger David Weinberger

      was pretty much gonna say all that ^ in verbatim. “Really soon” is not soon enough!

    • Guest

      I am still waiting to hear about this one!!

  • G-luv

    What does “really soon” really mean in the phone world. I’d really like to get a WP7 ohone and since the HD7 is too big and I’m not switching away from T-mo this will apparently be the phone for me.